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Mark interviews pollster John McLaughlin. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Live from the WOR LifeVac studios, Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 2: Well, all these public polls, you see, they're just terrible.
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  Speaker 2: They're just rigged, rotten. Forget all these public polls. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the real polls, that's what the candidates actually use. The
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  Speaker 2: real polls, far more expensive, much more scientific behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: The best pollster in the world is John McLaughlin. He's
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  Speaker 2: got a website, McLaughlinOnline.com. McLaughlinOnline.com. But he's with us now.
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  Speaker 2: John McLaughlin, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I'm busy times, 43 days till Election Day.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. So, hey, these public polls, these media polls, these
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  Speaker 2: college polls, they use the wrong everything, the wrong list.
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  Speaker 2: They use the wrong demographics, the wrong age group. They
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  Speaker 2: undersample Republicans. They do this all the time.
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  Speaker 1: It's fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: You could tell people this, show them the fake metrics,
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  Speaker 2: and they still keep reading them every day and talking
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  Speaker 2: about them. How do they get away with this all
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  Speaker 2: these years?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, they own the media. I mean, you know, you,
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  Speaker 1: we've been friends for years and I've talked about this 2016.
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  Speaker 1: You had a Hillary lock. Remember it was a lock
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  Speaker 1: on election day. She was going to win. We, Trump
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  Speaker 1: had no chance. And 2024 was going to be a
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  Speaker 1: Biden blue wave and ends up being 44,000 votes in
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  Speaker 1: three States, 11,000 in Georgia, Arizona, and 20,000 in, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in Wisconsin that decided the race out of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: 160 million votes. And in 2024, they, you know, President
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  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, she was going to win. And Trump, not
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  Speaker 1: only did we win, but he, you know, he won
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  Speaker 1: the popular vote and he swept the seven battleground states
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  Speaker 1: and it was a decisive electoral victory. But he won
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  Speaker 1: all the metrics. And, you know, it was a big win,
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  Speaker 1: not close. And now, you know, you have the same
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  Speaker 1: thing where you're saying a lot of these Senate races,
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  Speaker 1: like in Texas, Univision comes out with a survey. They
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  Speaker 1: use YouGov. They got, you know, they're under-polling Trump voters.
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  Speaker 1: They're under-polling Republicans. But they do it on purpose in
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  Speaker 1: these different media outlets because it helps the Democrats fundraise.
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  Speaker 1: It tries to suppress Republican fundraising. And the worst is
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  Speaker 1: turnout because in the midterm, it's a lower turnout than
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  Speaker 1: a presidential election. So in 2024, we had 155 million
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  Speaker 1: people come out and Trump got 50%. He got 77
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  Speaker 1: million votes. So the Democrats and the liberal media know
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  Speaker 1: that that 77 million that voted for Trump will decide
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  Speaker 1: this election. So they're doing everything they can to suppress
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  Speaker 1: the Trump vote. So, oh, it's, you know, this one
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  Speaker 1: can't win that, you know, Tallarico is going to win
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  Speaker 1: in Texas. And they got two Dan Sullivans in Alaska.
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  Speaker 1: You like that in Alaska? The Democrats, the incumbent Republican
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  Speaker 1: who's popular is named Dan Sullivan. So what do they do?
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  Speaker 1: They find some other guy on the voter rolls named
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  Speaker 1: Dan Sullivan, and they qualify him for the ballot because
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  Speaker 1: in Alaska, they changed the election law so that the
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  Speaker 1: top four are on the ballot from the primaries. It's
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  Speaker 1: an open primary. So the top four, so you have
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  Speaker 1: two Dan Sullivans to try to confuse the voters. But
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  Speaker 1: it's that kind of stuff that's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Now, you can't do that in Michigan. Michigan, where are
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  Speaker 2: you going to find another guy named Mohammed Abdul El-Sayan Hassan, whatever?
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  Speaker 2: You can't find him in Dearborn.
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  Speaker 1: You'd find him in Dearborn. No, there's a significant Arab
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  Speaker 1: population in the state. But they can't do that. But
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  Speaker 1: it's a dead-even race in a lot of these polls
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  Speaker 1: between Mike Rogers in Michigan and El-Sayed. And El-Sayed is
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  Speaker 1: trying to disavow this guy he campaigned with in the primary,
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  Speaker 1: Hassan Piker, who was saying– you know, we brought nine
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  Speaker 1: 11 on ourselves. I mean, it's like, so, so you,
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  Speaker 1: you've got the, the Democrat socialists, the socialists inside the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat party have taken over their nomination. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: places like in Maine, uh, Troy Jackson came in for
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  Speaker 1: platinum after he fell out. And then, and then you
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  Speaker 1: got El Sayed and they got Tallarico in Texas. You've
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  Speaker 1: got real socialists who really, you know, do believe the
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  Speaker 1: United States, uh, is at fault for a lot of things. And,
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  Speaker 1: They would raise your taxes not by little but by trillions,
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  Speaker 1: probably about $ 2, 000 or $ 3, 000.
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  Speaker 2: But in the real polls, what do Americans think of
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  Speaker 2: this socialism in the real polls?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're really unpopular. I mean it's one of those
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  Speaker 1: things where the Democrats within their party, the moderate Democrats
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  Speaker 1: reject it and they're having a kind of civil war.
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  Speaker 1: But then the leaders like Schumer and– You know, Hakeem Jeffries,
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  Speaker 1: the leader of the Democrats in the House, they're saying
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  Speaker 1: they should have a big tent. So they're letting them in.
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  Speaker 1: In the meantime, you know, we're running campaigns for, like,
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  Speaker 1: Janine Driscoll, who's running against Laura Gillen, and Tom Suozzi's
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  Speaker 1: running against Michael Petri on Long Island. And those Republicans
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  Speaker 1: are running against the Mondami-Hockel socialists. And even in New York, like,
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  Speaker 1: New York's a two-to-one Democrat state, but Bruce Blakeman's within
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  Speaker 1: a handful of points of Kathy Hockel. mainly because they
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  Speaker 1: know she's going to give in to Mondami after Election Day.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very poorly kept secret. The Democrat socialists have
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  Speaker 1: asked for it, Mondami's asked for it. Huge tax hikes.
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  Speaker 1: Mondami wants a 9.5% property tax hike on all the
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  Speaker 1: homeowners in New York City and all the real estate
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  Speaker 1: in New York City, including everything that's owned by Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump and other people, all this real estate. But they
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  Speaker 1: also want a 2% corporate surcharge. They want surcharges on income.
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  Speaker 1: They want to lower the threshold of the estate tax,
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  Speaker 1: the debt tax, down to $ 750, 000. So if you own
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  Speaker 1: a home for $ 750, 000, you die. Your kids will have
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  Speaker 1: to give it to the government.
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  Speaker 2: So the polls, the seven or eight Senate races that
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  Speaker 2: are crucial, how are we going to do in them?
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's actually nine that's rated as a toss-up right
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  Speaker 1: now when you look at them. I think there's potential surprises.
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota is running against one of these socialists,
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  Speaker 1: Tim Walz's lieutenant governor, this woman named Ferguson. She's bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: And that race is tied in Minnesota. And in New Hampshire,
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  Speaker 1: there's been some polls that have John Sununu ahead of
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  Speaker 1: Pappas in Minnesota. New Hampshire, so we could pick up that.
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  Speaker 1: But then also some of these toss-ups like Ohio and Iowa,
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  Speaker 1: we should not be tied in Ohio and Iowa with
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats. And in Texas, there's polls out that have
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  Speaker 1: Tallarico ahead. I just don't believe. I've polled for Trump,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in every election in Texas, and we won
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  Speaker 1: decisively the last one by 14 points. And I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: at the details of these polls, and I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Paxton's going to win in Texas. And Abbott should win decisively.
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  Speaker 1: These polls that have the governor losing and Paxson losing
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  Speaker 1: look like their demographics are definitely skewed left. So that's
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  Speaker 1: going well. And, you know, in Maine, the polls are close.
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  Speaker 1: And Susan Collins, you know, she voted against, she voted
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  Speaker 1: to impeach Trump at one point, but he endorsed her.
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  Speaker 1: So she was like seven points ahead of Trump the
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  Speaker 1: last time she ran.
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  Speaker 2: Maine, Michigan, where it's close. How will it break? Will
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  Speaker 2: it break for the Republicans, do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I have in 43, it's a toss up. Michigan's a
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  Speaker 1: toss up and there's plenty of races that are toss
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  Speaker 1: ups that the next 43 days are critical. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, it's one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: we really do have to get our vote out. We
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  Speaker 1: really have to let them, we have to play offense
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  Speaker 1: against these Democrats.
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  Speaker 2: But that requires messaging. What is the Republican message? I
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  Speaker 2: don't hear it yet.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a problem because they, they, You know, when
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  Speaker 1: the president wanted to have voter ID and improve for
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  Speaker 1: citizenship in the Save America Act, the Republican Senate couldn't
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  Speaker 1: pass it. That's why Cornyn lost his primary to Paxton.
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  Speaker 1: So individual Republican candidates are going to have to go
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  Speaker 1: after their Democratic opponents and basically say when he talks
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  Speaker 1: about Medicare for all, he means eliminating any private health
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  Speaker 1: insurance you have. It'll be all government run, be paid
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  Speaker 1: for by massive increases in taxes. And they're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to, 43 days, they have to bring the issues
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  Speaker 1: to the Democrats. Open borders, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: They've got to run. How do they message that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the gas prices are tough because Iran, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they know exactly what they're doing. They know we're in
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  Speaker 1: a midterm election. They know that Donald Trump has them
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  Speaker 1: on the ropes. And they're doing everything they can with
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  Speaker 1: their terrorist allies, whether it's the Houthis or whatever, to
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  Speaker 1: shut down the world's oil supply. So... Besson has these
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  Speaker 1: economic sanctions against them, and I think the Republicans have
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  Speaker 1: to say, look, we've got a choice. Either Iran gets
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear weapon or we stop them right now. We
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  Speaker 1: ought to do everything we can to finish the job,
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  Speaker 1: and the prices of gas will come down. I think
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  Speaker 1: President Trump's been more than patient with the Iranians, and
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  Speaker 1: those economic sanctions are going to take a little time
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  Speaker 1: to work, but that's better than a lot of other options.
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  Speaker 1: But right now, Iran, you know, they know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: They are basically doing it to raise the price of
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  Speaker 1: gas to affect the American midterm elections.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we only got a minute left. Bruce Blakeman, good
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  Speaker 2: shot at winning New York.
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  Speaker 1: I hope. Yes, very good shot at winning New York,
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  Speaker 1: precisely because, I mean, when you talk about affordability, Kathy Hochul,
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  Speaker 1: she's allowed 48 utility rate hikes. We pay you enormous
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  Speaker 1: utility bills, and she has the nerve to say she's
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  Speaker 1: going to give back $ 100 or $ 200 to raise them
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  Speaker 1: by thousands. And then she has, you know, she's raised
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  Speaker 1: taxes $ 8 billion on New Yorkers, and you now have
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  Speaker 1: her and Mondami are thinking of ways after Election Day
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  Speaker 1: to raise taxes by billions more. So, and plus, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Mondami wants to close Rikers Island. Both Hochul and Mondami
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  Speaker 1: support cashless bail and letting criminals loose and open borders.
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  Speaker 1: So Bruce has a really good shot because the reality
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  Speaker 1: of their daily lives says things could get better because
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  Speaker 1: Hochul I mean, people four years ago against Lee Zeldin,
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  Speaker 1: they weren't sure they liked her. Now they know they
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  Speaker 1: don't like her. So most New Yorkers want change. And
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  Speaker 1: Bruce is doing an excellent job working really hard, really.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing well.
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  Speaker 1: We've got 43 days to turn that around. It's really
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  Speaker 1: important for New York. All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, John McLaughlin, keep up the good work. You can
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  Speaker 2: check out his website. It's McLaughlinOnline.com. McLaughlinOnline.com. John McLaughlin, the
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  Speaker 2: world's greatest pollster. The real pollster, not those fake public polls.
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  Speaker 1: As long as we keep winning, because Trump won his race,
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  Speaker 1: as you get to say that. But you predicted it
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: World leaders all over the world use you, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a reason why. John McLaughlin, thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark.
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