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Bill Federer: Courageous Christianity & Overcoming The Red/Green Axis · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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defending biblical Christianity.
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No topic, off limits.
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And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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Friends, thank you so much for tuning in.
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God bless you.
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You've got our brother Bill Federer back, officially William J. Federer.
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If you go to his Amazon page and all of his books, we're going to talk about several
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of those books today, including what's happening in the nation and get his perspective on how
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he's seeing things from history, to what's happening in culture and brother.
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Bill, good to see you.
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Thanks for your time today.
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Oh, David, good to be with you.
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Yep, so let's mention the relevant books.
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Well, they're all relevant, but the most recent ones we want to talk about, of course,
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courageous Christianity is the brand new one.
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We're going to get to this one, friends.
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This is a powerful book, how a 19th century revival sparked the muscular Christianity movement,
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YMCA athletics, and a youth led race to save the world.
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We're seeing youth move today, very interesting, also an incredibly relevant book, Socialism,
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the real history from Plato to the present.
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And I love this one as well, silence equals consent.
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So brother, there's so much going on in the country, disappointing from the perspective
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of the church and Bible-believing Christians, where we've got the decline of biblical literacy,
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and we've got the increase of secularism, the increase of Islamization, really, which
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I think I've told you before we got on the podcast, it's kind of flying under the radar.
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You also wrote a book on that, what every American needs to know about the Quran, a history
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of Islam and the United States.
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So we'll start right there.
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You know, the communist Islamist was just elected in New York City to be the mayor.
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Eye-opening for lots of places in the country, because what happens in New York doesn't
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always stay in New York.
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We've seen college campuses, hotbeds for not only Islam, but socialism, so your thoughts
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right off the top bill, and we'll just dive into this.
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Yeah, it's called the red-green alliance, or red-bean, commerce, and green-bean Islam.
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I go through Muhammad's life that he was first a religious leader in the pagan city of
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Mecca from 610, 80 to 622, 80, and he only makes 70 converts in 12 years, and he gets
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confrontational, and they chase him out of town.
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He travels north as a Muslim refugee to the Jewish city of Medina, three Jewish clans
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control Medina.
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They let Muhammad as a Muslim immigrant, the first one ever.
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He goes into the minority neighborhoods, and he begins to organize a following, so
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like a community organizer.
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When his following gets big enough, he gets involved in politics, and he pressures the
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Jews to accommodate him and his followers politically.
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They do, now Muhammad's a political leader.
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When his followers get argumentative, they get chased out of town for disturbing the
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peace.
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Now you have lots of Muslim immigrants, Jews let him into Medina, and Muhammad allows them
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to rob the caravans headed to Mecca in retaliation for the Meccans chasing him out of town.
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It's this victimhood thing.
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That we're the victims, they were intolerant of us, and so it's different than Jesus who
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said if they take your coat, give him your shirt, his attitude was, if they take your
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house, you take their caravan.
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And so he gets verses from his Allah that he gets a fifth of the booty.
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One of the verses says, Allah has given you the slave girls as your booty.
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And so he tells his men, you can have four wives plus as many extra women as your right-hand
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possesses.
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And so they would rob caravans within, and then back in Mecca, he gets offended at one
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of the Jewish tribes, confiscates their property, chases about a town.
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Now there's two Jewish tribes.
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He confiscates the second one's property, chases about a town, and the big one stands back
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saying, well, as long as he's not focusing on me.
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And then the last tribe, he bottles them in their neighborhood for 25 days, brings them
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into the market, shops off their heads, sells some women and children into slavery.
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So within five years of Muhammad coming into the Jewish city of Medina as an immigrant,
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there's not a Jew left in the city of Medina.
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They were chased out, killed or enslaved.
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So at the three-step process, immigrate, increase, eliminate, immigrate into a host country
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as a Muslim refugee, increase the number of your followers and begin to get involved politically.
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And then you have random outbreaks of violence in the neighborhood, and the previous inhabitants
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no longer feel safe and move out, and you take over the neighborhood.
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And they do this neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, country by country.
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There's a 1,400-year track record of seeing this happen.
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They even call it da-wa, DAWAH, and it's a cultural jihad.
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And so in Europe, the Muslim immigrants come in, and they will put, the guy will have four
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wives and will put each wife in an apartment and tell them to go down to the welfare office
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and say the husband is not around and they get welfare checks.
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And the man visits his wives and the more children they have, the larger the welfare
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checks get.
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He's living like a king with his hair and it's all paid for its state expense.
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And the average European woman is having one kid, maybe.
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It's a social stigma for a Muslim woman, they have less than five kids.
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And so you've got one guy with 20 kids and they estimate by 2030, they will have a majority
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population and they will simply vote in Sharia law.
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Anything's happening in Canada and it's happening in cities across America.
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I was recently talking to someone who said, yeah, Portland, Maine, it now has a Muslim mayor
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and you see this happening all around America, they come in as immigrants, they go into
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the minority neighborhoods, get a following, and then have random outbreaks of violence
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and calls to prayer, like in Hamptramic and the previous inhabitants no longer feel safe
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and move out.
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So Bill, why do you think this seemingly has flown under the radar of our government
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or it seems to the average American is paying attention to this or concerned about this
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that the government doesn't seem to be concerned about this in the United States?
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Yeah, so politicians want votes and they see these immigrants as potential voters.
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And so you'll have both Democrats and Republicans falling over themselves saying, hey, join our
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party, join our party, we'll have more votes.
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But realizing that they have their own agenda, so like a pinball machine, they'll work
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with either side, either side, either side, but they're advancing their agenda.
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Then an important thing in Islam, they have a saying, when your enemy is strong retreat,
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when your enemy is weak attack.
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And so throughout history, whenever they've suffered major defeats, battle of Malta,
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battle of Apanto, battle of tours, they would go into a generation of being less aggressive
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and then they would do probing attacks and become more aggressive.
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So we look at World War I, before then the Ottoman Empire, which had been in existence for 700 years,
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begins to weaken. It's called the Sick Man of Europe. And it would have dissolved Britain,
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has taken a part of it, Egypt and France has taken a part of it and Russia's taken a little sliver
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and Italy has taken some. But then oil is discovered in Iraq and you have the Germans making a treaty
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with the Turks for oil and you have the British making a treaty with Iran for oil.
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It's called the Anglo-Iranian oil company or BP, BP, Anglo-Iranian oil company.
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So have World War I to place in the Middle East over oil. And so when World War I ends,
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the map of Europe's redrawn, the map of the Middle East is redrawn. Of course the Jews
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get the British mandate. But the Muslim world by and large wanted to be westernized and have
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secular leaders that wanted to be more pro-West. And it was moving in that direction until
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the Muslim Brotherhood was started in 1928. And they say we got to get back to their goal is a
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one-world Muslim government called the Caliphate led by a Muslim leader called the Khalifa.
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But they base their agenda on the two cities Muhammad lived in. In Mecca he was religious,
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in Medina he flips and becomes political military. And so their agenda is
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sneak into countries as religious Muslims and then flip and become political militant.
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But the big change happened in 1960 when the Cold War ends and the Soviets are forming
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groups to destabilize countries. They call the critical theory. They're going to a country,
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observe the groups, ethnic, religious, social, economic, and then call them victims and oppressors
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have and have nots. They'd start riots and protest and co-op the media to blame the leader of the
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country when his popularity fell as they would do a coup and replace the leader with the Soviet puppet.
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So in 1960 the Soviets started the PLO, the Palestinian liberation organization for the purpose of
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sewing division in the Middle East so it would not be pro-American. And so the PLO is a mixing
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together of Wahabi Muslim Brotherhood ideology with Soviet tactics. So here you have the socialists
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that want a one-world government and the Muslims that want a one-world government and they both
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hate the West. And so now you have a socialist Muslim mayor of New York. So these are tactics that
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we see. So I'd love to talk more about your book on socialism but we did that the last time we
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had you on. I just want to direct people to it. Great book, friends. Socialism, the real history
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from PLO to the present. Subtitle how the deep state capitalizes on crises to consolidate control.
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We talked about that and how their goal is to gain control and they've actually done a decent
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job of that. It's evil but they're they're good at what they do because they they never give up
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on their agenda. So let's move over to your new book now. I'll build courageous Christianity.
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A lot of information in this one. You started off with sports. You talk about the Olympics inspired
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by Christianity. Even the game of rugby. Where do you want to start here?
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Yeah, so there's a second great awakening in America led by a guy named Charles Finney.
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He's in a young attorney and he says church is more than just listening to sermons. You
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got to do something and his sermons were read by William and Catherine Booth over in England.
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They started the Salvation Army but his works were read by George Williams and he started
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the YMCA. So industrial revolution, London, the population increases eight fold with factories
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and their streets are filled full of gangs and prostitutes and if you saw Oliver twist with
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Charles Dickens, that's the way. And so a young 22 year old guy named George Williams says
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there needs to be a place where guys can go and read the Bible and study and exercise and he called
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it the Young Men's Christian Association. And it started in this movement called muscular Christianity
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that you can be a strong Christian so that you can defend the weak, right? Which is different
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than the Middle Ages where you had this concept that anything physical is bad and so just fast
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until you're 80 pounds. It's like okay well you may have a really good spiritual relationship with
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the Lord but you're not going to defend the orphan in the widow against the as long as you
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have fallen human nature you will have the strong oppress the weak. And so that's why you need
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godly strong men to defend the weak. And so this was the muscular Christianity movement. The YMCA
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spreads goes worldwide. It helps to lead in racial reconciliation. In 1850s you had the first YMCA
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founded by a black man Anthony Bowen in Washington DC and then they started indoor sports. So
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Robert J. Roberts wrote a book called the Body Builder. He was a Baptist. He was a YMCA instructor
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and he came up with the idea of bodybuilding and he came up with the idea of exercising every day
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that was sort of a novel thought. And then a YMCA instructor James Nazmat his boss said you know
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it's winter time we're doing jump and decks. Can you come up with something a little more interesting
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and so he tax a couple peach baskets on the wall they throw a soccer ball in it and get a ladder
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pull it out but then the bottom top turned into a hoop but they would tackle each other and so he
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came up with the 13 rules of basketball printed it in the YMCA newsletter and it went worldwide
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and it became the best witnessing tool. So you're in China India the Philippines and you're going to
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witness for the hard but if you just play basketball these kids see it say hey you want to learn
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come here I'll show you how you play basketball I have fun become friends and you sit down and
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somebody opens up a Bible you have a Bible study and then a YMCA instructor invented volleyball
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racket ball indoor swim lessons the boy scouts came out of the YMCA but you would have a World War
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and during the off time R&R recreation and a YMCA instructor L. Wood Brown from the Philippines
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organizes these players from different countries to play sports and so a French guy D'Coubertine
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recruits him and says hey let's bring back the Olympics and so it was the YMCA athletes from all
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these countries that came together for the Olympics and so so fascinating ripple effects but it all
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goes back to this second great awakening revival in Charles Fittie and the head of the YMCA in
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Geneva, Switzerland was led by Henry Do not and he does something he starts the International Red Cross
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and then the Gideon's International comes out of the YMCA. Father's Day came out of the YMCA
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you have the Toastmasters and Dale Carnegie classes of all these things are coming out of the YMCA
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Dale Moody in Chicago and Billy Sunday the Evangelist and it's a fascinating book but again it's
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the premise that you can be a strong courageous person so that you can defend the weak and establish
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God's covenant on the earth. Interesting history we'll talk more about that after we come back
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from our break but we're kind of seeing a change here in my perspective Bill how we've kind of
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gone for decades with most not all but most athletes shying away from mentioning their faith in
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Christ and now we've got more boldness it seems in a lot of them particularly some in college
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so I'm really encouraged by what we're seeing but we're with Bill Federer American Minute.com you
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things that matter the website worldviewmatters.tv so Bill Federer before we continue on on the book
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courageous Christianity I do want to go back sorry to do this actually you know you can talk about
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any topic I know but I'm really I'm loving the fact that you wrote on silence equals consent the
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sin of omission we've seen that in too many churches it with too many pastors and now a lot of
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Christians in America but I want to ask you about the socialism aspect of what we're seeing
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it opened my eyes in I think 2016 when 65% if I remember some of the polls of young people under
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I think it was 29 supporting Bernie Sanders and that's why he was neck and neck with Hillary Clinton
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at the time so you got youth supporting social and they're sold on socialism many of them are defending
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socialism but they don't know what it is they don't know how to define it do you see that
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changing now that we're seeing you know a few socialist uh Islamic mayors socialism is big in
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their background and what they want to do with government do you see that changing our more people's
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eyes opening what are your thoughts well I think Charlie Kirk was one of the main ones pushing back
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on socialism and he did it so brilliantly and and he did start a youth movement that is continuing I
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just spoke to a great turning point group at the University of Mississippi last week um but but it's a
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battle um you know in the book silence equals consent I go through how colonial America you had
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churches founding cities and so in uh providence wrote island was founded by the first Baptist
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church in America Hartford Connecticut was founded by the first congregational church in America
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churches founding cities everybody's involved in church and everybody's involved in the city
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government because it's the church founding the city and they had a covenant form a government
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that they got from the bible what part of the bible that first 400 years out of Egypt before
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Israel got a king right and so that's the first instance in world history with millions of people
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in no king it worked until the priests went woke right they went rainbow church and there's no
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sin and everyone does were tried in their own eyes and they all go to Samuel the prophet they say
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we want to be like the other countries we want a king Samuel Christ and the Lord said they did
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not reject you they rejected me why is this important kings of europe look to the bible for their
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authority but they look to the king's saw and after part of the bible divine ride of kings I'm the
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royal gang leader and the founders of america look to the before king saw part of the bible millions
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of people everybody taught the law personally accountable to god to follow it so kings of europe
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wanted a theocracy you had to believe with the government tells you to believe or you get cancelled
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print put in jail and burnt of the state um america's founders fled that and they wanted
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freedom of conscience so anyone who says that christians want to set up a theocracy know nothing
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about our history america's founders fled that because they wanted freedom of conscience goes
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back to god loves you god wants you to love him back but for love to be love it must be voluntary
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anyway um now i have four stages where pilgrim covenant turns into socialism you're like what
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yes or the pilgrims it's like a triangle you get rights from god your fear to your neighbor
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because you're accountable to god right you get blessings from god you share that with your
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neighbor voluntarily as charity because you're doing it as untagot and god is close uh the century
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after the pilgrims you have the age of enlightenment and the scientific revolution and scientists like
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Kepler discovering laws of planetary motion and Robert Boyle discovering laws of pressure and Isaac
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Newton discovering laws of gravity and so some theologian said well maybe god made everything a lot
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with laws and he made it but like a guy makes a really complicated clock and then winds it up
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and goes for a walk it's still moving god made everything but he's not really involved he's distant
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he's impersonal and so covenant turns into social contract it's pretty much what we agree upon
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yeah god's there but we just sort of tip our hat to him well you go from pilgrim covenant with a
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close god to the age of enlightenment it's a social contract with a distant god to the French
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revolution in the next century where social covenant with no god and then the century after that
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is you have Marxism socialism where the state is god and so you have a haggle said the state is
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god walking on earth the state is our mortal god all the worth which the human being possesses
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he possesses only through the state so that's where you get Nazism where in 1933 they authorize
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physicians to end the life of sick patients and that the article says but no life still valuable to
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the state will be want and lead destroyed so the state decides whether you live or die on your
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base or so so it's interesting how this pilgrim covenant with a close god goes to a social
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contract age of enlightenment with a distant god to the French revolution social contract with no
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god to Marxism the socialism where the state is god what great it's connecting of the dots there
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I'm sure that's helpful to a lot of people historically now when you said what you know what
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their value they're devaluing life that's simply what they're doing when you remove god
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I can't help but think about America and the abortion holocaust that we have here right in our own
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country what about euthanasia I think six states maybe seven now have legal euthanasia up in
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Canada MAID medical assistance and dying so we've got in the west now we are devaluing life and
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we are being god government is god we remove the value of life that's surprising in a country
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with our founding and knowing that every life was created in the image of god that's in our
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declaration could you care to speak to that Bill and how do we get back to valuing life in America
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yeah there's a quote from George Washington where he said the fate of unborn millions
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now depends under god on the courage of this army and then even in our constitution it says to
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secure to ourselves and our posterity the blessings of liberty and it's like what's posterity well
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that's the future generations well the future generation starts with the next generation the one
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that's in the womb right now and so the the concept is that our founders sacrificed their prosperity
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for their posterity they pledged their lives and their fortunes and their sacred honor for a
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generation yet unborn today it's flipped and people are sacrificing their posterity for prosperity
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settling our kids with a thirty eight trillion dollar debt where all the income won't even pay the
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interest on it totally irresponsible but we don't care as long as everything's okay with
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our life there and so we see this switch in the value of human life but but I think there is an
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awakening and I think young people are coming up and if one thing is encouraging is the store what are
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the stories we love best in the Bible it's where it looks like it's hopeless and god raised up
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little no bodies with faith encouraging I mean here exactly had the most powerful military in
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the world and this 80-year-old Moses is leading a bunch of people with with no weapons they're
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totally unarmed and then God has the the Red Sea clothes in and kill them and and there's David
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against this giant Goliath we love the stories where there's courage Esther going into the king
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right of Persia saying you know whether I die I die I'm going to go in there and stand up for the
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Jews and and so this is our turn our turn and then Gideon's case it's a hundred thousand
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midi nights and he gets thirty thousand Israelites and God said too many tell everyone that's
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scared to go home and then he whittles it down to ten thousand still didn't go drink from a creek
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whittles it to three hundred and then God rolls up his sleeves and says watch this
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otherwise God loves to wait until things look hopeless yes and then he raised up little
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no bodies with faith encourage so this is our turn when I first met Charlie Kirk in 2014 I was
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the main speaker at Robinson Illinois Civic Center with a couple hundred people and this 19-year-old
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was the warm-up speaker for me and I remember he was so good I couldn't concentrate on my notes
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four days before Charlie was shot we were in Seoul Korea together and I was the warm-up speaker for him
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oh my goodness and so through the years he would text me I've been on his show a dozen times and
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he'd ask me questions you know tell me about John Adams the tree of Tripoli tell me about
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you know the state constitutions and and I'd give him some and he would text me scriptures I have a
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whole phone full of you know years and years of Charlie texted me Bible verses and so in the middle
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of him you know meeting with the president and stuff he texted his friends Bible verses
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he did this to so many people but I was one of them but it was just amazing to see how one life
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by the time he's 31 it could impact the entire world yeah and so this is an encouragement to the 19
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year olds that are watching this and to the young people that are watching this that just sell
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out to the Lord and let the Lord use you and and you can change the world too it really is amazing
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for lack of better words the Charlie Kirk effect what's been happening not just with the growth
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of turning point USA and all the new chapters and requests and that that movement is booming but I
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think reports of Bible sales more people going to church more people willing to think here about
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Jesus I mean this these are a signs of a hopeful revival we can't manipulate that so the Holy
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Spirit is doing something the Holy Spirit has America here for a reason otherwise we've been
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gone a long time ago because of our own evil and depravity but there's good people here there's
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great men and women of God that are trying to do the Lord's work and trying to wake up the church
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wake up the nation and as long as we're still alive right Bill there's still time just in the last
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minute just close us out with whatever thoughts you'd like to share yeah I'm I want to encourage
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people to get the book courageous Christianity it's exciting to see Teddy Roosevelt is in their
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Booker T Washington is in there you see that during the Civil War the YMCA started the US
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Christian Commission that would have chaplains and medics but also have coffee wagons and and then
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they did this again during World War One and then together with the Red Cross and some others they
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said well let's have you call it the United Service Organization turns into the USO the USO really
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started with the YMCA and the Red Cross and so you see the positive Christian impact where there
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is a need and so this idea that yes there's lots of needs in the world but the good Lord is looking
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for young men and women to step up and say use me yes and so the book courageous Christianity is
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filled full of these stories and I guarantee there's lots of them that people don't know
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amen inspiring to americanminute.com get courageous Christianity there Bill love you're you're teaching
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of willing we will do this again soon brother well thank you and appreciate everyone supporting
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