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- 0:40Speaker 1: back Sunday all the way October. Man, what is this
- 0:43Speaker 1: week five? Week six?
- 0:45Speaker 3: Now?
- 0:45Speaker 2: Man?
- 0:45Speaker 1: It just felt like Week one yesterday. But that's what
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- 0:54Speaker 1: But it's nonetheless great day to be breaking down this
- 0:58Speaker 1: Sunday night football game here with my guy Ham.
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- 1:01Speaker 1: Good game on tap actually tonight here for once on
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- 1:08Speaker 1: as well. I know I've been pretty pretty knee deep
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- 1:14Speaker 1: But excited to jump on here and break down the
- 1:17Speaker 1: Sunday night football game with you Ham.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Happy weekend, man, I'll bring you in. What's going on? Brother? Yeah?
- 1:22Speaker 3: No, I've been been a great weekend. We've got a
- 1:24Speaker 3: great game tonight, I think as well. Got a bunch
- 1:27Speaker 3: of pieces to talk about, you know, big game for
- 1:29Speaker 3: both squads if they want to make it to the playoffs.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Bengals let one slip away last week. Giants got an
- 1:34Speaker 3: unexpected win so looking forward to breaking it down and
- 1:37Speaker 3: you know, finding some winners with you.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some injuries to talk about obviously, or
- 1:41Speaker 1: or some guys that are thrust it into two starting
- 1:44Speaker 1: roles due to injuries there. But overall should be a
- 1:48Speaker 1: pretty good game here, pretty big total. But we'll do
- 1:52Speaker 1: our best to break it down. So if you guys
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- 3:20Speaker 1: But let's talk through this game here. Forty six and
- 3:23Speaker 1: a half is the total here? Cincinnati at the Giants,
- 3:28Speaker 1: Giants two and three, right, Cincinnati one and three, let
- 3:30Speaker 1: one slip. Last week Giants picked up a big win overall,
- 3:34Speaker 1: and hey, is it Tyrone Tracy season. He looked incredible
- 3:38Speaker 1: last week. Obviously he was on the main state. Basically
- 3:40Speaker 1: what was he forty three hundred something like that got
- 3:43Speaker 1: the hundred yard bonus. I know he helped our guy
- 3:44Speaker 1: Hebrew win some cheese over the weekend as well, and hey,
- 3:49Speaker 1: he gets another great match up here overall. But let's
- 3:51Speaker 1: talk captains man, and we're gonna start at the top
- 3:54Speaker 1: here with the captain position.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Obviously, I mean the league neighbors is still out.
- 3:59Speaker 1: There for the Giants, right, So I mean from a
- 4:02Speaker 1: captain perspective, all the way up right at the top.
- 4:05Speaker 2: You got Jamar Chase for a good reason, right.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Chase just looks absolutely incredible, went absolutely nuclear last week,
- 4:11Speaker 1: dropped forty four, right, just a target monster overall for
- 4:16Speaker 1: this team. Gets a pretty cupcake matchup overall here against
- 4:20Speaker 1: the Giants. Rights, But he's seventeen to one. You've got
- 4:23Speaker 1: to pay for him. He's three thousand more than the
- 4:26Speaker 1: next guy, which is t Higgins his teammate there and
- 4:29Speaker 1: then Daniel Jones running quarterback dual threat right where, Hey,
- 4:32Speaker 1: you can run on the Cincinnati team. You can pretty
- 4:34Speaker 1: much do anything you want on the Cincinnati Bengals defense overall,
- 4:37Speaker 1: they're very.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Porous, very very trash.
- 4:39Speaker 1: So overall, looking at things, for me, I'm gonna be
- 4:42Speaker 1: more heavy on the Giants. I think in the captain spot,
- 4:44Speaker 1: I just like attacking this Bengals team, and then I
- 4:47Speaker 1: like playing those Bengals guys.
- 4:48Speaker 2: On the comeback in the flax.
- 4:50Speaker 1: I really like the two four style builds tonight where
- 4:53Speaker 1: I'm going two Giants and the two or three Giants
- 4:56Speaker 1: and then the rest Bengals.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I really like that two four type build.
- 4:59Speaker 1: But from a captain perspective, I mean, you got Daniel
- 5:02Speaker 1: Jones at thirteen to five all the way down there,
- 5:04Speaker 1: and then I mean you got Joe Burrow right in
- 5:07Speaker 1: there as well. So talk to me what you're doing
- 5:10Speaker 1: for the captain position here? Is it a quarterback night
- 5:14Speaker 1: for you? Is it the wide receiver alpha here for
- 5:17Speaker 1: Jamar Chase Higgins or my guy Tyrone Tracy, who.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I really like at eleven to one in that captain spot.
- 5:24Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's start at the top. I mean, Jamar
- 5:27Speaker 3: Chase obviously a great play nuke to slate. Like you said,
- 5:29Speaker 3: forty plus points. I think that trio canbind for one
- 5:32Speaker 3: hundred and eleven last week alone. But man, that's so expensive.
- 5:35Speaker 3: And if you start building teams with Jamar and the captain,
- 5:38Speaker 3: you get pretty finn and you've got to get some
- 5:40Speaker 3: of those bargain basement guys down there below. So I'm
- 5:42Speaker 3: with you. I think I'm gonna have some giants guys
- 5:45Speaker 3: in my captain to lead the way. Now, certainly, if
- 5:47Speaker 3: I'm building more than three teams, I would have Chase
- 5:50Speaker 3: and a couple of the captain, but with malite neighbors out,
- 5:53Speaker 3: which would be the highest price captain. Once you get
- 5:56Speaker 3: down to those giants, it is rather cheap. We've seen
- 5:58Speaker 3: Wandel Robinson in his role that he's bad and just
- 6:03Speaker 3: the target share that he gets. Darius Slayton had had
- 6:07Speaker 3: a breakout game last week, So Wan Dell and Slayton
- 6:12Speaker 3: would lead the way for me, just coming from a
- 6:14Speaker 3: contrarian perspective playing these giants, I do like those giants.
- 6:17Speaker 3: That allows you to fit in more of the studs.
- 6:20Speaker 3: Danny Dimes, like you said, he's a running quarterback. I
- 6:22Speaker 3: think he picked up what was it like, forty rushing
- 6:25Speaker 3: yards last week? Thirty eight rushing yards last week. He
- 6:28Speaker 3: has that in his bag. If he gets in the
- 6:30Speaker 3: end zone, you know, via the legs, he's gonna be
- 6:33Speaker 3: tough to beat out at the captain spot. But for me,
- 6:35Speaker 3: it's Wan Dell, Robinson, Darius Slayton leading the way if
- 6:38Speaker 3: I'm building, you know, just one team just to get different,
- 6:41Speaker 3: you know, trying to win that three hundred k up
- 6:43Speaker 3: top prize. But Jamar Chase is a great play. I
- 6:46Speaker 3: don't think I'll get to t Higgins and the captain.
- 6:49Speaker 3: He had a great game last week as well, But
- 6:51Speaker 3: fourteen one just a little high that I want to pay.
- 6:53Speaker 3: So it would be it would be one Dell one
- 6:56Speaker 3: Darius Slayton too for me. And I'm not as high
- 6:58Speaker 3: as on tiering with Tracy the cap and as you
- 7:00Speaker 3: I know you, uh, I know you liked him and
- 7:04Speaker 3: you know he's he's definitely a good play. But I
- 7:06Speaker 3: just don't think I'll be getting there. I rerather have
- 7:07Speaker 3: the pass catchers for the Giants. I think they'll be
- 7:09Speaker 3: playing from behind as well. So give me, give me
- 7:12Speaker 3: those two receivers leading the way from me.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Yeah, no, excellent breakdown there.
- 7:16Speaker 1: So the reason I kind of like Tyrone Tracy is
- 7:20Speaker 1: if again going back to the school example, we got
- 7:22Speaker 1: these report cards over here on the stone and you
- 7:25Speaker 1: look at their report card, you got a you got
- 7:27Speaker 1: a letter that's not a B or C starting with
- 7:29Speaker 1: that rush defense there for for the Bengals. So I
- 7:33Speaker 1: like to play matchups here Tyrone Tracy. Like I said
- 7:36Speaker 1: last week, right, one hundred and twenty nine on the
- 7:38Speaker 1: on the ground in just eighteen carries against Seattle, which
- 7:43Speaker 1: is a pretty similar matchup here, right to the Bengals
- 7:47Speaker 1: and the Giants are at home. Hey, everybody just saw
- 7:50Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati team did. If they're
- 7:54Speaker 1: coming into my house here, the Giants in a in
- 7:56Speaker 1: a must not one, must win game. I hate say
- 7:59Speaker 1: must win games this early in the season, but I
- 8:01Speaker 1: mean again, the Giants are gonna want to rebound off
- 8:03Speaker 1: of that nice win they had.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Bengals are coming in and upset.
- 8:08Speaker 1: If you're you're me, I mean I want to slow
- 8:10Speaker 1: the game down right and keep Joe Burrow and Jamar
- 8:13Speaker 1: Chase t Higgins that passing attack off the field as
- 8:16Speaker 1: much as possible. How do you do that? You rely
- 8:18Speaker 1: on Eric Gray, you rely on on Tyrone Tracy. Obviously
- 8:21Speaker 1: Gray is going to be a talking point later on
- 8:23Speaker 1: when we talked to Value, But Tyrone Tracy I like
- 8:26Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, he got two targets in the
- 8:27Speaker 1: passing game as well, which I would like to see
- 8:29Speaker 1: a little bit more of that. But again, it was
- 8:31Speaker 1: his first time starting in that role. He looked good overall.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, one hundred and twenty nine
- 8:36Speaker 1: on the ground in eighteen carries. That's that's very good,
- 8:38Speaker 1: very efficient. Should have had a touchdown as well, right there,
- 8:42Speaker 1: so or yeah, I mean overall, so I like him
- 8:45Speaker 1: quite a bit.
- 8:46Speaker 2: And then I like Wandeale Robinson as well.
- 8:48Speaker 1: I mean, this dude's averaging almost ten targets a game
- 8:50Speaker 1: right now in this offense. He's just I mean, he's
- 8:54Speaker 1: got touchdown upside, he's got the he's got the PPR upside,
- 8:57Speaker 1: which is great, and he's got a really nice price
- 8:59Speaker 1: in that captain position as well. At twelve three, he's
- 9:01Speaker 1: below Daniel Jones, T Higgins, Burrow, Jamar Chase there overall.
- 9:05Speaker 2: So really like those two guys a lot. I don't know.
- 9:08Speaker 2: If I get to Darius Slayton, I just think he
- 9:09Speaker 2: picks up more ownership.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Than a bit based on his explosion last week, right,
- 9:15Speaker 1: I think recency bias, everyone's gonna kind of jump on ship,
- 9:18Speaker 1: and oh Slayton's a guy. I still think this offense
- 9:20Speaker 1: is gonna run through Wandeale Robinson, Tyrone, Tracy, Daniel Jones.
- 9:24Speaker 1: I think is kind of where this offense is going
- 9:26Speaker 1: to run through Slayton. Sure he's there, but now he's
- 9:29Speaker 1: priced up. I mean, I get it. He is the
- 9:31Speaker 1: he is the quote unquote play for Showdown, right because
- 9:35Speaker 1: he is that home run potential.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Guy down down the sidelines there. But I think he's fine.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I'm overall more heavily invested in these Giants guys, so
- 9:45Speaker 1: naturally I would like some Slaton, But for me, it's
- 9:48Speaker 1: really Tyrone, Tracy, Daniel Jones and Wandell Robinson are kind
- 9:52Speaker 1: of where I'm looking from the captain's position on the
- 9:54Speaker 1: Giant side flipping over to the Bengals side here, I
- 9:59Speaker 1: think Jamar Cha obviously. I mean, anytime Jamar Chase on
- 10:02Speaker 1: the slate, you can't like say you don't have interest.
- 10:05Speaker 1: But for me, I've approached these primetime Showdown games is
- 10:08Speaker 1: just the most expensive captain and the most popular captain.
- 10:12Speaker 1: I've just been underweight on him because I mean, you
- 10:14Speaker 1: go in there, you're naturally behind the eight ball behind
- 10:16Speaker 1: the field unless you're literally playing one hundred and fifty teams.
- 10:19Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be so perfect with the
- 10:23Speaker 1: highest price, the most the most highest owned captain. That
- 10:27Speaker 1: for me on twenty max in three mats, single entry stuff.
- 10:30Speaker 1: I'm just naturally gonna be underweight on those type guys
- 10:33Speaker 1: and just take my stands elsewhere. Do I love Jamar Chase, absolutely,
- 10:36Speaker 1: but I like him much more in the flex, I
- 10:38Speaker 1: think because what it does for your roster. I mean
- 10:40Speaker 1: you scroll down and you look at the value on
- 10:42Speaker 1: the slate. Value is pretty weak overall, and I mean
- 10:45Speaker 1: that's kind of been the theme we've seen all year
- 10:47Speaker 1: Ham so far. Is I mean, you need ten to
- 10:49Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen points out at every one of your
- 10:51Speaker 1: positions so far this year from what we're seeing for
- 10:54Speaker 1: the most part, with the way the kickers are playing
- 10:56Speaker 1: this year, I mean again, they're making fifty yard field
- 10:59Speaker 1: goals like a chip shot. That's points every time they
- 11:01Speaker 1: make one of those, right, So when you're getting down
- 11:03Speaker 1: to these value guys that you're hoping for three catches
- 11:07Speaker 1: in a touchdown, right maybe thirty yards, which is kind
- 11:11Speaker 1: of their ceiling potential, it's really tough.
- 11:13Speaker 2: So I like avoiding.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Those kind of builds and just kind of playing more
- 11:17Speaker 1: the mid tier captains or the cheaper captains than rounding
- 11:19Speaker 1: up with really really solid flex plays. Am I gonna
- 11:22Speaker 1: ship every turn, No, probably not. Am I gonna get
- 11:24Speaker 1: the super super unique shipper that's maybe two or three duplicates?
- 11:30Speaker 2: Probably not. But I can still build solid teams.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Roster construction wise, right, and still get myself a shot
- 11:38Speaker 1: at the top and burn a lot less lineups than
- 11:41Speaker 1: than jumping down to the bottom.
- 11:42Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I'm at. For the captain position.
- 11:44Speaker 1: My favorite captain on the Bengals I think would probably
- 11:48Speaker 1: be Joe Burrow just because we've seen these quarterbacks overall.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Be lower owned here. Burrow can can definitely, can definitely
- 11:57Speaker 2: spread it around.
- 11:59Speaker 1: But again, like I said, I'm pretty much gonna be
- 12:01Speaker 1: fading these Bengals in the captain's position and going in
- 12:04Speaker 1: with these giants. That's just the way I'm going. I
- 12:07Speaker 1: think it's gonna be more unique and more contrarian there
- 12:09Speaker 1: and then go overweight on the Bengals in the flex.
- 12:11Speaker 1: But any additional takes on the captain position here for you, Yeah,
- 12:15Speaker 1: the only other.
- 12:15Speaker 3: Captain that I did want to touch on it's gonna
- 12:19Speaker 3: it's gonna be a low owned one, would be Zach
- 12:22Speaker 3: Moss for the Bengals. And the reason why Chase Brown,
- 12:26Speaker 3: you know, practiced on Wednesday, popped up on the injury
- 12:29Speaker 3: port on Thursday, was limited on Thursday, limited on Friday.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Looks like he's gonna play, But man, I just hate
- 12:34Speaker 3: those midweek, midweek injuries to a quadriceps no less, Zach
- 12:38Speaker 3: Moss did the sixty seven percent of the snaps last
- 12:40Speaker 3: week as well. The Giants did just lose ca Von
- 12:45Speaker 3: Thibodeaux right their game wreck and defensive end. The Bengals
- 12:49Speaker 3: love to pass, but you know, if they get up
- 12:51Speaker 3: and get the lead. You know, Zack Moss, I think
- 12:54Speaker 3: what he's twelve K at the captain position, He's gonna
- 12:56Speaker 3: be super low owned, especially a guy that doesn't catch
- 12:58Speaker 3: a whole ton of passes either. But I don't hate
- 13:01Speaker 3: it if you're gonna build a game script around that.
- 13:03Speaker 3: I think Zach Moss might be a good contrarian captain
- 13:05Speaker 3: for the Bengals.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't hate that.
- 13:08Speaker 1: I just think overall these Giants are gonna be on
- 13:10Speaker 1: their own in the captain position, so I think I'm
- 13:12Speaker 1: gonna get my leverage there. But yeah, I like Zach Moss.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I think Zach Moss is a great flex play here.
- 13:17Speaker 1: He's actually in a pretty decent matchup overall, and I
- 13:20Speaker 1: could see, like, like everyone I think just naturally comes
- 13:23Speaker 1: into this game after what the Bengals did last last
- 13:26Speaker 1: week on offense, and obviously there was still nuts you
- 13:28Speaker 1: needed them to ship any tournament on the main slate.
- 13:30Speaker 1: I think people just naturally come in here and see
- 13:32Speaker 1: the Bengals and the Giants and just expect this game
- 13:34Speaker 1: to shoot out.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Right, It's in New York, it's a primetime game.
- 13:39Speaker 1: I mean, I could easily see this game slowing down,
- 13:42Speaker 1: be more on the ground, field goals, just more possession
- 13:45Speaker 1: type stuff, slow it down, right, I mean, I think
- 13:49Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm seeing. I mean, the Bengals played
- 13:51Speaker 1: a C minus pace overall, so they like to play
- 13:54Speaker 1: a little bit slower anyways, at about a seventy thirty
- 13:57Speaker 1: run pass split as well. And the Giant side, I
- 14:00Speaker 1: mean you're sitting in about seventy five to twenty five
- 14:03Speaker 1: run pass split. But I think again, I think they
- 14:06Speaker 1: could definitely lean more on the run and try and
- 14:08Speaker 1: slow this game down, keep Burrow and Chase and Higgins
- 14:10Speaker 1: and those guys off the field there.
- 14:12Speaker 2: So overall, I think we hit the captain position pretty good.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Let's jump over to the flex position here and again
- 14:20Speaker 1: we're gonna start like we always do with with kickers
- 14:22Speaker 1: and defenses. Here you got money mac right, Money McPherson
- 14:26Speaker 1: here at fifty two hundred, and then you got Greg Joseph, who,
- 14:30Speaker 1: hey was optimal one of his primetime slates already this
- 14:33Speaker 1: year when everybody was on Brandon Aubrey, it was Greg
- 14:36Speaker 1: Joseph season right. Talk to me on these flex plays here,
- 14:41Speaker 1: because kickers. Again, man, it just seems like pretty solid
- 14:44Speaker 1: rule that you'd be pretty profitable all season if you
- 14:48Speaker 1: just made minimum one one kicker in every one of
- 14:50Speaker 1: your teams throughout these primetime showdown slates, because it seems
- 14:54Speaker 1: seems like there's just a kicker optimal on every one
- 14:57Speaker 1: of these teams. And Hamlet's because going back to the value,
- 15:00Speaker 1: I mean, the pricing just it just rounds out your
- 15:04Speaker 1: team's better when you have these kickers, because from a
- 15:06Speaker 1: value standpoint, usually the guys under the kickers are playing
- 15:10Speaker 1: thirty forty max snaps right, and you're really kind of
- 15:14Speaker 1: hoping for lightning and a bottle there.
- 15:15Speaker 2: So hit on these kickers.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Two great kickers overall, and then you got the Bengals
- 15:19Speaker 1: defense at forty eight hundred, which is priced up Giants
- 15:22Speaker 1: defense all the way down at thirty six hundred. Burrow
- 15:24Speaker 1: can take sacks, he can throw interceptions. I think that's
- 15:28Speaker 1: a decent play overall. But where you're going from a
- 15:31Speaker 1: kicker d standpoint.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean these kickers all season. I saw you
- 15:34Speaker 3: in the chat on Thursday as well. You picked the
- 15:36Speaker 3: wrong one. You had myhers and you need it right.
- 15:38Speaker 3: You did not have the right stuff. And so I
- 15:41Speaker 3: mean both of these guys you said it. I mean
- 15:43Speaker 3: especially Muddy Mack and Greg. You know Greg Joseph. We
- 15:46Speaker 3: saw it in the Dallas game that he had him.
- 15:47Speaker 3: They kicked fifty yarders like it's nobody's business.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Now.
- 15:50Speaker 3: I know, I know McPherson missed one at the end
- 15:52Speaker 3: of game last week, but you know, these guys can
- 15:55Speaker 3: hit fifty yarders with these We even saw on the
- 15:58Speaker 3: Thursday night game with the Niners, but up thirty five
- 16:01Speaker 3: plus points and they still kick three or four field goals.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I think three field goals maybe four. So they're just
- 16:06Speaker 3: scoring points in droves. You know, they get down in there,
- 16:10Speaker 3: they stall out at the thirty five. No big deal,
- 16:12Speaker 3: We'll just kick a fifty two yard and get five points.
- 16:14Speaker 3: So I think both of these kickers, they're you know,
- 16:16Speaker 3: fifty two hundred, five thousand. I think both are squarely
- 16:19Speaker 3: in play. I would I would sort of lean, I
- 16:22Speaker 3: would sort of lean money back in this one. I think,
- 16:24Speaker 3: you know, they get redemption. He's been a you know,
- 16:26Speaker 3: been a good kicker in this league, had hit a
- 16:28Speaker 3: lot of clutch field goals. Not to mention, if it's
- 16:31Speaker 3: a close game at the end of the game, they're
- 16:33Speaker 3: going to play for a field goal. Always playing for
- 16:35Speaker 3: a field goal at the end of the half. So
- 16:36Speaker 3: I like those kickers. And yeah, these defenses are interesting
- 16:39Speaker 3: to me. You kind of touched on it. Beagles forty
- 16:41Speaker 3: eight hundred probably will get there just because of how
- 16:43Speaker 3: bad they've been. But I don't mind this Giants defense, Nates.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Even if you have a Burrow in the captain spot
- 16:50Speaker 3: something like that, they're they're passing. They did you say
- 16:53Speaker 3: they have passing seventy percent or running?
- 16:55Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:58Speaker 3: They're passing. Like you said, Burrow will take sacks, he'll
- 17:02Speaker 3: take interceptions. He could still take five sacks, throw three picks,
- 17:06Speaker 3: you know, and score twenty eight points. Right, Giants may
- 17:08Speaker 3: get a touchdown too, So I don't hate this Giants
- 17:11Speaker 3: defense as a contrarian play at thirty six hundred. It
- 17:14Speaker 3: allows you to do a lot of things. I don't
- 17:16Speaker 3: think I'll get to the Bengals defense at forteen hundred,
- 17:18Speaker 3: just more than I want to pay for them. But
- 17:21Speaker 3: definitely like both kickers, like the Giants defense, I won't
- 17:23Speaker 3: have any Bengals defense tonight.
- 17:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:26Speaker 1: I mean this Giants defense has twenty two sacks in
- 17:28Speaker 1: the year right, their averaging right around nine points. I
- 17:33Speaker 1: think it's a solid value play to be honest, And
- 17:35Speaker 1: like I said, I don't care even if I'm going
- 17:37Speaker 1: to Burrow, have Burrow in the lineup, or a Chase
- 17:40Speaker 1: captain something like that going to get against the Giants.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Giants in the flax right, Giants d at that value
- 17:46Speaker 1: tag number one, they start out with ten points.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Number two.
- 17:49Speaker 1: If Burrow throws a pick six to start the game,
- 17:51Speaker 1: well guess what, they get that touchdown. But also that
- 17:53Speaker 1: overall helps the build at your roster, right, because you're
- 17:55Speaker 1: expecting Chase to go off, you're expecting Burrow to go
- 17:58Speaker 1: off in a passing game. Well, when he throw pick six, right,
- 18:01Speaker 1: it's naturally they have to throw and catch up and
- 18:04Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's just an overall naturally good build,
- 18:07Speaker 1: get you different as well. And at that price point,
- 18:10Speaker 1: I mean, thirty six hundred, he's right there in the
- 18:12Speaker 1: range of of eli All, Giseki, Eric Gray, Theo Johnson.
- 18:16Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Giants defense is much better
- 18:18Speaker 1: play than than the majority of those guys there. So
- 18:20Speaker 1: I really like the Giants defense. And then I love
- 18:22Speaker 1: both kickers as well. I think I'm more on the
- 18:25Speaker 1: Greg Joseph side. I'm just a little bit heavier on
- 18:27Speaker 1: the Giants. But not only that, I just think the
- 18:29Speaker 1: Bengals go for it more than what the Giants are
- 18:31Speaker 1: are going. I mean, Greg Joseph just has more attempts
- 18:36Speaker 1: overall on on average than than what money Mac has.
- 18:39Speaker 1: So overall, that's kind of the stand I'm at, but
- 18:42Speaker 1: love both of the kickers. Love the Giants defense, Bengals defense,
- 18:46Speaker 1: I'm not going to get any of I just don't
- 18:47Speaker 1: like them at that price point. There.
- 18:50Speaker 2: Let's let's jump down since we're down in this range
- 18:52Speaker 2: and talk some of these value plays here below. The
- 18:55Speaker 2: Bengals defense.
- 18:56Speaker 1: You got Yoshi Vash, you Gotkiseki All Junior, Eric Gray
- 19:00Speaker 1: THEO Johnson and then kind of drops off a cliff
- 19:03Speaker 1: after that, Right, I mean, obviously you got the samples,
- 19:05Speaker 1: the Tanner Hudson's of the World, the Bellingers, but again
- 19:09Speaker 1: gets gross very quickly. And even all of those guys
- 19:11Speaker 1: outside of Gaseki and Eric All I think are pretty
- 19:15Speaker 1: gross overall. THEO Johnson, Right, and when is it going
- 19:18Speaker 1: to be the THEO Johnson week? We've been trying to
- 19:19Speaker 1: make this guy work for for a long time here,
- 19:22Speaker 1: But what are you going to do with any of
- 19:23Speaker 1: these value plays down here?
- 19:24Speaker 2: Are you getting to them overall?
- 19:26Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm going more balanced build and trying
- 19:28Speaker 1: to round out my teams with a kicker, with a defense,
- 19:31Speaker 1: maybe a Yoshi vas or something like that. But what
- 19:34Speaker 1: are you doing here from from a value standpoint?
- 19:38Speaker 3: Yeah? I think you know. I think you know most
- 19:41Speaker 3: of these showdowns sites it's been tough to find good value.
- 19:44Speaker 3: And even even when you get that value, I think
- 19:46Speaker 3: you said it earlier, you still need fifteen points thirteen
- 19:49Speaker 3: points out of them. I forget who it was. It
- 19:52Speaker 3: wasn't It wasn't use check, but I mean it wasn't.
- 19:55Speaker 3: These guys are scoring touchdowns? Oh No, it was more
- 19:57Speaker 3: in the Monday night game. I mean, these guys are
- 20:00Speaker 3: touchdowns a hoop and title and tamba we're talking about,
- 20:03Speaker 3: you know, their score touchdowns and not even you know,
- 20:04Speaker 3: not even optimal. So you got to get at least
- 20:06Speaker 3: double digits, I feel like. And the guys down there
- 20:09Speaker 3: that can do that for me would be Yoshi vas
- 20:12Speaker 3: had a I guess bad game last week, but we've
- 20:14Speaker 3: seen him score multiple touchdowns in games this season. He's
- 20:17Speaker 3: still playing seventy five percent of the snaps. Hey, we
- 20:21Speaker 3: always talk about it, one game sample size, anything could happen.
- 20:24Speaker 3: They could double they could double Higgins, they could double Chase,
- 20:27Speaker 3: and that leaves Yosi Vash one on one and he
- 20:30Speaker 3: could be the difference. At forty four hundred. He's playing
- 20:32Speaker 3: a whole bunch these tight ends for the Bengals. It's just, man,
- 20:36Speaker 3: it's just so tough. They're only playing you know, thirty
- 20:38Speaker 3: to forty percent you know per tight end, so they're tough.
- 20:41Speaker 3: THEO Johnson would be one that that once again, one
- 20:44Speaker 3: game sample he played seventy five percent of the snaps
- 20:48Speaker 3: last week, had his best game as a pro with
- 20:51Speaker 3: five catches on five targets. Don't hate Theo Johnson, especially
- 20:54Speaker 3: with neighbors out, kind of can serve as that underneath
- 20:57Speaker 3: guy if you're fading Tyrone Tracy. I think Eric Gray's fine.
- 21:01Speaker 3: I'd be interested to see if you would put Gray
- 21:04Speaker 3: and Gray and Tyrone in the same line. I don't
- 21:08Speaker 3: think I would, but you would definitely be different if
- 21:09Speaker 3: you did. I don't think Eric Gray is bad. If
- 21:12Speaker 3: you watched that game last week in ADS, I mean
- 21:13Speaker 3: Eric Gray came out, he caught two passes, like on
- 21:16Speaker 3: the first drive, I felt like for like thirty five
- 21:18Speaker 3: yards and he thought he was gonna be rock and rolling.
- 21:20Speaker 3: It didn't did end up being a Tyrone Tracy day.
- 21:22Speaker 3: But I don't think he's the worst play And the
- 21:24Speaker 3: last one I want to touch on and man, he's gross.
- 21:27Speaker 3: I'm I'm repping him though, repping my boy Jalen Former
- 21:30Speaker 3: ball Jalen Hyde has been absolutely abysmal all season long.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Three targets in five games. Hey, but when they drafted him,
- 21:38Speaker 3: they drafted him for his deep ball ability. You know
- 21:40Speaker 3: you're down on the fifteen yard line, he can take
- 21:42Speaker 3: it off the top. He's got speed to burn. He's playing,
- 21:45Speaker 3: he's you know, playing sixty five percent of the snaps
- 21:47Speaker 3: as well. Don't hate him, he's two thousand. He's gonna
- 21:50Speaker 3: have to, you know, hit a bomb to help you out.
- 21:53Speaker 3: But don't think it's the worst play.
- 21:55Speaker 2: Yeah, No, excellent, excellent breakdown there.
- 21:57Speaker 1: But going back to just Thursday night, right, we saw
- 22:01Speaker 1: Kyle Yuschek at one point four K score over ten
- 22:04Speaker 1: Fantasy points and still not be in the winning winning build.
- 22:07Speaker 2: Right.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Obviously, when I build is thirty six, thirty six, twenty four, right,
- 22:13Speaker 1: and you got a lot of studge, you'd think, oh,
- 22:15Speaker 1: if you're giving me a one point four K, do
- 22:17Speaker 1: that's going to score over ten Fantasy points?
- 22:19Speaker 2: Most people would say, Hey, I'm gonna lock them in, right,
- 22:21Speaker 2: because that allows me to.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Get up to the debos the Iux right, the Kitto's
- 22:25Speaker 1: of the world, the Purties of the world, the Kenneth
- 22:27Speaker 1: Walkers of the world.
- 22:28Speaker 2: Right, it just wasn't the case.
- 22:30Speaker 1: So again that just goes back to this show of
- 22:34Speaker 1: where I'm kind of.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Honing in my approach and just going more balanced in
- 22:38Speaker 2: the captain position to avoid some of these guys down
- 22:42Speaker 2: here overall, Obviously, can you build a chase captain where
- 22:45Speaker 2: you still avoid this range down here?
- 22:46Speaker 1: Absolutely you can, but you're fading some some overall good plays,
- 22:49Speaker 1: and that's just the stand you got to take and
- 22:51Speaker 1: the decision point you got to make. But whereas me,
- 22:53Speaker 1: I like those Giants captains more so I can play
- 22:56Speaker 1: more of the better plays overall in the flex position.
- 23:00Speaker 1: So for me, my favorite values down here, I think
- 23:03Speaker 1: Gseki and Eric all are are are good plays. I
- 23:06Speaker 1: probably prefer Eric all to be honest to Kaseki. They
- 23:09Speaker 1: really like this dude. He's getting a ton of targets
- 23:11Speaker 1: average run around four targets per game three point four k.
- 23:14Speaker 1: He's in a plus matchup here against the Giants as well,
- 23:17Speaker 1: so I really like that. Eric Gray, I think is
- 23:20Speaker 1: an interesting play. I think he could play these guys together.
- 23:23Speaker 1: That they had about a sixty forty split. Tyrone Tracy
- 23:26Speaker 1: seems like more of the every down back. Eric Gray
- 23:29Speaker 1: seems more of the pass catching role, at least from
- 23:32Speaker 1: from what I've seen. Obviously, it's the one game sample
- 23:34Speaker 1: that that we're working off of here, right with Singletary
- 23:38Speaker 1: on the ir here, so we're gonna get more sample here.
- 23:40Speaker 1: But at his price point, I think he's fine overall.
- 23:44Speaker 1: Don't hate it again, had four targets last week. Caught
- 23:46Speaker 1: three of them for fifty yards, so I think he's
- 23:51Speaker 1: a solid play. Don't love playing them together, but again
- 23:54Speaker 1: I think at the salaries, I still don't think I
- 23:58Speaker 1: want to play him together. I mean, Eric Gray is
- 24:00Speaker 1: still three thousand dollars. He still needs to do something
- 24:02Speaker 1: at that price point, so you're kind of counterintuitive on
- 24:07Speaker 1: your roster when you're going Tracy and Gray together.
- 24:10Speaker 2: Personally, I think I prefer one or the other.
- 24:13Speaker 1: If Eric Gray was down at eleven hundred, twelve hundred,
- 24:16Speaker 1: fourteen hundred something like that, it's a little bit different
- 24:18Speaker 1: from a salary standpoint. But playing those guys together, I
- 24:21Speaker 1: mean Eric Gray at three thousand and then Tyron Tracy
- 24:24Speaker 1: at seventy four hundred, you're looking at ten four for
- 24:26Speaker 1: the two of them. That's kind of a hefty combo
- 24:30Speaker 1: pack there.
- 24:30Speaker 2: So I like Eric Eric Gray in teams.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Where I'm a little bit under on Tyron Tracy or
- 24:37Speaker 1: in Bengals heavy scripts, right because I think Eric Gray
- 24:39Speaker 1: is more of the pass catcher, at least from what
- 24:41Speaker 1: we saw last week. So if I'm going heavy Bengals
- 24:43Speaker 1: script or Bengal's playing from a head winning script and
- 24:47Speaker 1: the Giants are kind of playing catch up. I think
- 24:49Speaker 1: that's where I give the bump to a guy like
- 24:52Speaker 1: Eric Gray for a value standpoint, because you're gonna want
- 24:54Speaker 1: to get those chases, those burrows, the Higgins of the world.
- 24:57Speaker 2: That costs more money, so you're gonna need salary relief anyways.
- 25:00Speaker 2: So that's kind of where I like that Jalen Hyatt,
- 25:02Speaker 2: he is the home run guy. Man. It's just that's
- 25:05Speaker 2: a tough click overall, and that goes back to the value.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen Hyatts got three targets on the year
- 25:09Speaker 1: and he's two thousand dollars on the slate, right, I
- 25:11Speaker 1: get it, he's got the home run play potential.
- 25:13Speaker 2: But so it just Darius Slayton.
- 25:16Speaker 1: I mean, I think taking a Darry Slayton dropping down
- 25:19Speaker 1: to a Jalen Hyatt and saying, hey, Jalen Hiyat's going
- 25:22Speaker 1: to be that home run guy, and this is maybe
- 25:24Speaker 1: there's one one home run in this game and it's
- 25:26Speaker 1: not Slaton, it's high. I think that's an interesting team
- 25:29Speaker 1: and a way to get unique. But again, that's a
- 25:31Speaker 1: very gross click overall. So for me, again, I don't
- 25:34Speaker 1: like much of this value down here. Deo Johnson, I
- 25:36Speaker 1: think is good. Eric All, I think is decent. Kaseki
- 25:38Speaker 1: I'm a little bit under on, and then Eric Gray
- 25:41Speaker 1: and teams were I'm kind of under on on Tyrone Tracy,
- 25:46Speaker 1: I think are all solid plays overall. Chase Brown, let's
- 25:51Speaker 1: let's jump up and talk to the rest of the slates.
- 25:53Speaker 1: I mean, Chase Brown, you got at eighty six hundred,
- 25:56Speaker 1: Zach Moss at eight K. I think Chase Brown is
- 25:57Speaker 1: a pretty easy fade overall in this game, especial here
- 26:00Speaker 1: with the midweek downgrade with the quad there, I think
- 26:04Speaker 1: Zach Moss being cheaper as well. Obviously the ownership right on,
- 26:09Speaker 1: Chase Brown's gonna be under her held in check and
- 26:12Speaker 1: actually probably coming under owned with that questionable tag. Obviously
- 26:15Speaker 1: going to have to keep an eye on that if
- 26:17Speaker 1: if he is active for this game. But what's your
- 26:20Speaker 1: takes kind of on the rest of these flex plays
- 26:22Speaker 1: here with the Zach Mosses of the world right there
- 26:25Speaker 1: in the Rangewando Robinson, Tyrone, Tracy's right there in that range. Slaton,
- 26:29Speaker 1: talk to me on this upper kind of flex flex tier.
- 26:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just mind boggling to me that
- 26:36Speaker 3: Chase Brown I mean eighty six hundred and in Moss
- 26:40Speaker 3: is eight thousand. Maybe DK knows something we do. We
- 26:43Speaker 3: don't know, but I do think. I do think Chase Brown,
- 26:46Speaker 3: you know, long term, is a better back than Moss,
- 26:48Speaker 3: But the Bengals coaches don't don't agree because he has
- 26:51Speaker 3: he has an out snapped in all season long. I
- 26:53Speaker 3: do have Moss. I mean I got a little bit
- 26:54Speaker 3: of moss interest in the captain Wanda Robinson at eighty
- 26:58Speaker 3: two hundred. He's just too if you talk about all
- 27:00Speaker 3: the targets he's getting, they're at home. I certainly don't
- 27:04Speaker 3: mind that. Darius Slayton, I think I'm higher on than you,
- 27:07Speaker 3: just based on the fact that sixty six hundred dollars
- 27:10Speaker 3: we saw what he did last week. He is gonna
- 27:12Speaker 3: come a ton of ownership. So I do understand that
- 27:14Speaker 3: I'm a little lower on t Higgins than maybe most.
- 27:19Speaker 3: I don't hate this Giants defense. I know Timbado's out,
- 27:22Speaker 3: but they're at home, you know, coming off a big win,
- 27:26Speaker 3: playing in front of their home crowd. I like these Giants.
- 27:29Speaker 3: I think you did too. I think the Giants win
- 27:30Speaker 3: this game. Send the Bengals to what Bengals will be
- 27:33Speaker 3: one and five after tonight, So yeah, give me some,
- 27:37Speaker 3: give me some one, dell, give me some Slayton. Those
- 27:40Speaker 3: are my two favorite plays on the slate for sure.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely have more interest than Higgins.
- 27:44Speaker 1: I mean just looking at his targets ten and fourteen
- 27:46Speaker 1: targets in the last two weeks. I mean, yeah, he
- 27:48Speaker 1: was on the shelf to start the year here, and
- 27:50Speaker 1: it was Jamar Chase Schell. I think when Higgins in
- 27:53Speaker 1: there and Chase, when they're both in there, they benefit
- 27:56Speaker 1: each other. I don't love playing these guys together. I
- 27:58Speaker 1: will allude that right off the bat. Obviously it worked
- 28:01Speaker 1: last week. I think more people are going to go
- 28:03Speaker 1: to that. But historically these two guys very very rarely
- 28:06Speaker 1: both get there in the same game. So in a
- 28:08Speaker 1: one game sample, in a one game Showdown slate here,
- 28:12Speaker 1: especially if one of them is in the captain position,
- 28:14Speaker 1: for me, I'm going to separate out or at least
- 28:16Speaker 1: doc or I mean really trying to avoid playing these
- 28:20Speaker 1: two guys together. I mean, especially in this slate when
- 28:24Speaker 1: nine to four and eleven four they're both expensive here,
- 28:26Speaker 1: I want one or the other. I don't want both
- 28:28Speaker 1: of them in the same team for the most part,
- 28:31Speaker 1: outside of maybe a Burrow captain team right where you're
- 28:34Speaker 1: expecting Burrow to throw for four touchdowns three hundre plus
- 28:37Speaker 1: yards type thing, and hey, one of them is to
- 28:40Speaker 1: chase two of them or to Higgins something like that.
- 28:43Speaker 1: But even then, I mean, one of those guys is
- 28:45Speaker 1: likely to be in the captain position. So for me,
- 28:47Speaker 1: I like separating those two guys just historically naturally, they
- 28:51Speaker 1: just typically don't get there together outside of maybe last week,
- 28:54Speaker 1: maybe a couple other times, but for the most part,
- 28:56Speaker 1: the data says, separate these two guys together, and in
- 29:00Speaker 1: one game showdown, I'm definitely gonna do that, and I don't.
- 29:02Speaker 2: Think a lot of people do that.
- 29:03Speaker 1: So that's another way to get different with those Bengals receivers,
- 29:06Speaker 1: those Bengals plays and overall roster construction, which which I
- 29:09Speaker 1: do like there, so.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Definitely have more interest in Higgins than you do.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Seems like you have more interest in Darius Slayton and
- 29:16Speaker 1: and I got more interest in t Higgins. Obviously there's
- 29:19Speaker 1: a price discrepancy there, but again, Darius Slayton's sixty six
- 29:23Speaker 1: still solid play. He looked great last week. They're getting
- 29:26Speaker 1: him heavily involved.
- 29:27Speaker 2: I just again, I think.
- 29:29Speaker 1: They're gonna slow this game down a little bit more Wandell,
- 29:31Speaker 1: Tyrone Tracy on the ground, Daniel Jones. I think they're
- 29:35Speaker 1: trying to control this more versus trying to air it out,
- 29:38Speaker 1: chuck the ball down the field type thing where they
- 29:40Speaker 1: were in that kind of track meet last week with
- 29:42Speaker 1: with Seattle. So again, I think that handles the slate
- 29:46Speaker 1: pretty pretty uh pretty good here.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Why don't you give the people kind of your low
- 29:52Speaker 2: owned play.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Of the day and then your your your your favorite
- 29:55Speaker 1: overall play of the day before we get out of here.
- 29:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we won. I'm to go with I'm
- 30:00Speaker 3: gonna go with Zach Moss. I think Zach Moss is
- 30:03Speaker 3: gonna be a great play. And then and then Wandale
- 30:06Speaker 3: Wondale is gonna be my highest zone captain on this light.
- 30:09Speaker 3: He's my favorite one of the day.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going a little combo pack, little correlation pack here.
- 30:14Speaker 1: I'm going Tyrone Tracy my favorite captain play here. And
- 30:17Speaker 1: then my favorite low owned value play is the Giants defense.
- 30:20Speaker 1: I think people are sleeping on the Giants defense. It's
- 30:22Speaker 1: a little nice correlation there. Throw a little Tyrone, Tracy
- 30:25Speaker 1: up in the captain position, Giantstein the flex and then
- 30:27Speaker 1: kind of do whatever you want. Ownership really won't matter
- 30:30Speaker 1: from from that standpoint, So I really like that kind
- 30:34Speaker 1: of kind of start there and that that build and
- 30:36Speaker 1: overall I think it get puts you on a pretty
- 30:38Speaker 1: decent path here tonight.
- 30:40Speaker 2: But again, thank you everyone for watching.
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