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Retro Episode The Game Awards 2025 High Republic Comics Reviews · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to another episode of a Star Wars Alliance.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm your host, Clay and with me every
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  Speaker 2: single week. Now, technically we are officially releasing this on
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: the same day that we normally do, but we're not
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  Speaker 2: recording on the day that we normally do, but it
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  Speaker 2: is Katie. Katie has a tight schedule due to some
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  Speaker 2: personal reasons, and you know, it's been a while since
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  Speaker 2: we've done an early recording for an actual like actual
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars Alliance show. So this will also be nice
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  Speaker 2: because again, I'm starting my new job as the time
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  Speaker 2: we're recording this tomorrow, and it would be nice to
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  Speaker 2: have a little bit of an open schedule to kind
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  Speaker 2: of work with my new job. And so we are recording.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be a review episode, but before
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  Speaker 2: we jump into the reviews, we do have actual, legitimate
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  Speaker 2: gaming news. And I'm so excited and I don't care
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  Speaker 2: what people say. I'm gonna let myself get excited for
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  Speaker 2: this because I called it. I called it literally last
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  Speaker 2: week when we talked about the rumors of or not
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  Speaker 2: even rumors, the confirmation that the Nights of the Old
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  Speaker 2: Republic games were in fact still being worked on. I said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if these two games are being worked on, that gives
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  Speaker 2: me hope for a third game. And guys, oh my god.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: When I was watching along with the geek Verse guys,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have a live stream. So I do apologize
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  Speaker 2: for people anticipating that they did have an after show
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  Speaker 2: talking about everything. But we were all hanging out in
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  Speaker 2: the geek Verse discord in the gaming channel, and we
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  Speaker 2: were all reacting and we were all freaking out, and
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  Speaker 2: me and Travis both when we saw there's a certain
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  Speaker 2: shot where we can see like the three silhouettes of
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  Speaker 2: the characters, we saw that and we immediately called it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is not Nights of the Old Republic. The first
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  Speaker 2: game that was literally showed like there was the pre
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  Speaker 2: show and then there was like the actual show. So
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  Speaker 2: the pre show started at seven, the actual show started
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  Speaker 2: at eight, like literally before anything else was shown or
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  Speaker 2: awards were given or anything. On the top of the hour,
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  Speaker 2: at eight o'clock PM Eastern Saner time, this trailer rolled
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  Speaker 2: out and it was for Star Wars Fate of the
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  Speaker 2: Old Republic.
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  Speaker 3: And the Young Jedi inventors mentioned of the Old Republic
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  Speaker 3: now just feels like, Hey, we're gonna have this news
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  Speaker 3: release happen. We're gonna plug.
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  Speaker 2: This like yeahund around the same time. Like it all
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  Speaker 2: like worked just so fluidly, and I thought that was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: So this came out and I'm gonna talk about this
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  Speaker 2: game just for a little bit because there came a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of drama immediately after. And when I say immediately,
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  Speaker 2: I mean just the next day and the news being that,
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  Speaker 2: like there were so many people that are like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: because of this being the game that it is and
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  Speaker 2: they're announcing it now, we need to anticipate this being
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  Speaker 2: a twenty thirty release, and it's probably gonna be on
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  Speaker 2: like the PlayStation seven instead of the PlayStation five. That's
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  Speaker 2: the current generation you know, gaming console. And so that
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  Speaker 2: bummed everybody out. It's like, dude, why are you saying
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuff to like just put us all down, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is so dumb. Well, the thing that
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  Speaker 2: made literally everyone freak out during the trailer is at
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  Speaker 2: the very end of the trailer it says the director's name.
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  Speaker 2: That director's name is Casey Hudson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he worked on Kotor.
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  Speaker 2: Worked on the original Kotor. So like everybody get freaked
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  Speaker 2: out of fate of the Old Republic title right, and
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  Speaker 2: we were like yeah, and then like the small little
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  Speaker 2: text of Casey Hudson's name and then everybody jumped, oh
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  Speaker 2: god like and this feels truly like, hey, this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be an epic piece of gaming material. Now
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  Speaker 2: it has been since like confirmed by Casey himself. He says,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about not till twenty thirty. Rumors game will
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  Speaker 2: be up before then. I'm not getting any younger, so
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna push this out. I love this. I also
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  Speaker 2: love that. What else did they They put out the fact.
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  Speaker 4: That it's a very simple trailer. It's a very simple trailer.
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  Speaker 4: This trailer what it is? People most people like guessed,
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  Speaker 4: Like I saw all the reactions to this trailer.
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  Speaker 2: People immediately said star Wars. When you saw the exhaust
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  Speaker 2: of the ship. It's the second shot, and Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: has kind of like a very iconic exhaust for ships,
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  Speaker 2: and so as soon as people saw it, they're like,
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  Speaker 2: star Wars, Okay, but what kind of Star Wars? What
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  Speaker 2: does this mean? Then you see a female figure all
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  Speaker 2: in silhouette this entire time, with a little bun at
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  Speaker 2: the top. Of her head, and everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Like very Bastilla.
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  Speaker 2: Well it looks very dacy. Ridley looks very Ray. And
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  Speaker 2: that's people like knee jerk reaction. They're like, Ray, what
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  Speaker 2: is Ray doing in a video game? Are we having
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  Speaker 2: like Posts Rise of Skywalker into a video game? Like
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  Speaker 2: people were thinking, oh, we're getting Posts Rise of Skywalker
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  Speaker 2: to have synergy with the movie released. This could be cool.
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  Speaker 2: And then yes, when people started to see the silhouette
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  Speaker 2: of the droid that was next to her. Now, how
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  Speaker 2: did you pronounce her name Bestilla? You said Bestilla so
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  Speaker 2: many people, and I need to know, and I've never
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  Speaker 2: heard it pronounced like that. I've always said Bastila.
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  Speaker 3: I So I learned how to read from a very
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  Speaker 3: different person. He was not like phonics base. He was
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  Speaker 3: like put the B and the A together that says bah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeaheah no no. But like like this is also why
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  Speaker 2: people I love audio books, because I don't get to like, like,
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  Speaker 2: I am so nervous to say names. Now again, I
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  Speaker 2: need to look back because I don't even know in
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  Speaker 2: Kotor if they actually say her name at all in
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  Speaker 2: the game, Okay, I'll have have to go back because
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  Speaker 2: I do know when she talks, her name pops up
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  Speaker 2: in the in the subtitles to like show who is speaking.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know if anybody actually says her name.
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  Speaker 3: Because I think I've listened. I listened to the Reven
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  Speaker 3: book and her name is in there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, because they get married, I think, what I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know this?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they basically get married. Now, yeah, but still
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  Speaker 3: his husband yeah, started to recall the existence of the
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  Speaker 3: true Sith Empire.
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  Speaker 2: Now let me see bastilla pronunciation. Yeah, so it's b
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  Speaker 2: a h dash Still uh so Bastela Okay, yeah, uh.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still probably gonna fuck it up.
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  Speaker 2: But people immediately thought Bastila now in a small little
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  Speaker 2: and I believe this might actually be on Star Wars
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  Speaker 2: dot Com. I want to double check just in case.
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  Speaker 2: But it is said to not be a direct sequel
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  Speaker 2: to Quotor. It is a spiritual successor to Quotor.
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  Speaker 3: And it's unknown if this is actually canon or not.
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  Speaker 3: The assumption is yes, because of the spiritual successor, like legacy.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly is unknown, but I would assume because it's a
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  Speaker 3: new game and it's not a remake.
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  Speaker 2: I am willing. But see, here's the thing, because we
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  Speaker 2: may have had this conversation freaking five years ago when
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: it was announced the remake for Kotor, and now we
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  Speaker 2: know Kotor two. I think we had discussed the possibility
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  Speaker 2: of their being minor changes to the story to fit
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  Speaker 2: current Cannon, so that way we could say that Kotor
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  Speaker 2: is officially Cannon. Correct. Now, yes, but they have already
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  Speaker 2: said that this will be a spiritual successor, because if
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  Speaker 2: people don't know, Kotor is technically legends based, and Kotor
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  Speaker 2: two is technically not even a sequel to Kotor. It
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  Speaker 2: is like somewhat like in the same universe, but like different.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's it's very weird. But when I heard that
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  Speaker 2: was a it was a spiritual successor, excuse me, I
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  Speaker 2: made the assumption, Oh, then that might mean that they
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  Speaker 2: are trying to push this more into a canontical timeline
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  Speaker 2: rather than keeping it legends based. Still very exciting. And
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  Speaker 2: the assumption from a lot of people, which I am
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  Speaker 2: okay with making this assumption, is because Casey has said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna come out sooner than twenty thirty, then they're
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  Speaker 2: not trying to reinvent the wheel, right, which I think
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  Speaker 2: is a good thing. People are going to say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: then they're you're just gonna make it like the old one.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna suck. No, people still to this day play
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  Speaker 2: the old Kotor. Why do you think people are excited
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  Speaker 2: for the remake, because, again, you don't need to reinvent
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  Speaker 2: the wheel. You need to make the core game look
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  Speaker 2: as beautiful as a twenty twenty five video game with
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  Speaker 2: the same mechanics. Yep, and people will go ballistic. It's
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  Speaker 2: just the way it is. So you take that type
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  Speaker 2: of concept for a brand new game, you don't reinvent
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  Speaker 2: the wheel. You bring along new features, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: because there's been a lot of new gaming concepts since
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  Speaker 2: the last Kotoor game and now this one, and you
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  Speaker 2: add some of those too, just to add nuance to
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  Speaker 2: the game, right, Okay with that, I'm totally down for that,
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  Speaker 2: and I am so freaking excited for this game. My Literally,
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  Speaker 2: the first words out of my mouth were like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 2: oh shit, ohd ocehand o should o shit ocehit. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just so freaking excited for this, especially again because I
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  Speaker 2: will pat myself on the back and say that I
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  Speaker 2: called it.
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  Speaker 3: Matt was super excited about this one too. I had
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  Speaker 3: to remind him Hey, there's no console icons in the
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  Speaker 3: end of it, so unknown when it could be coming out,
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  Speaker 3: even though yes, could be before twenty thirty, which is
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  Speaker 3: still five years away, so there's still plenty of time
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  Speaker 3: for a new console to drop.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and there there is still plenty of time. I'm
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  Speaker 2: crossing my fingers for Kotoor and Kotor two to also
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  Speaker 2: come out before then, because I think that would just
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  Speaker 2: be great marketing and synergy wise. Hey, you really least
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  Speaker 2: the first two remakes and then the very next year
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  Speaker 2: Boom Fate of the Old Republic comes out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that totally makes sense. Obviously, this will
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  Speaker 3: be one where I watch the cut scenes, even though
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  Speaker 3: I still haven't watched the cut scenes from Jedi Fallen
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  Speaker 3: Order and Jedi Survivor. Eventually I'll do that, I promise Katie.
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  Speaker 2: If we need to make time, I will literally sit
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  Speaker 2: here with the camera sharing my screen and we will
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  Speaker 2: play this game together. Like you don't understand if. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I know Matt he's an Xbox gamer, right he also, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's an Xbox Gamer. Now, I do not know if
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: he has the old games. I also don't know if
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  Speaker 2: there's still purchasable through the Xbox Store like online digital games,
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: but I do know that they are always on sale
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: on Steam. So if he is ever a laptop gaming
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  Speaker 2: type of person.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: He does he plays like the RuneScape with like the
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  Speaker 3: really old.
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  Speaker 2: Like Okay, yeah, okay, so I would even say this
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  Speaker 2: the next time it's on sale. I'm going to message
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: you both on Disco with the link. So that way,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: if y'all need to hdmi your laptop to the TV
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  Speaker 2: to play this game, Katie, I'm legitimately telling you the
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  Speaker 2: storytelling of this game of these games so good, it
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  Speaker 2: is legitimately like it's what got me into like forever
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: into first single player games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, He says he does not have the Kochor
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  Speaker 3: games because he has every Xbox console. I think here's
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of Xbox consoles he does not have the games.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I will definitely be keeping an eye out
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  Speaker 2: as I slowly open up Steam already. It's it's so fun.
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  Speaker 2: The best thing about Kochar itself is the fact that
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  Speaker 2: like it is a turn based game and story driven game,
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  Speaker 2: so you do not feel rushed whatsoever. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: truly there to like, hey, I want to explore a planet,
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  Speaker 2: I want to really absorb the story. You are given
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to do that. Gotcha, you don't feel rushed
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  Speaker 2: at all. And even when, like for me personally, when
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Fate of the Old Republic eventually comes out, I am
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: not going to feel pressured to review that game as
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: soon as possible, because that'll be a game that I
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: literally just marinate in because it's been a game that
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I have been waiting for for way too damn long.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, that's that's like the big thing for me.
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  Speaker 2: So Night of Nights of the Old Republic. Yeah, so
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: currently it is literally ten dollars right now, the first game.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, anything else on this Fate of the Old
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  Speaker 2: Republic I don't think so cool. Cool cool. So then
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  Speaker 2: next one, Katie actually got a little bit excited for
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: when I texted her the trailer this next one, and
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  Speaker 2: I loved you.
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  Speaker 3: I was passed out when you were texting me.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I was passed out when this game was actually announced.
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  Speaker 3: The exact release date hopefully.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this one actually has This one actually has a date.
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  Speaker 2: But the greatest thing is that the geek First Game
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  Speaker 2: channel on Discord immediately got flooded with the exact same
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  Speaker 2: gift of Anakin Skywalker yelling, now this is pod racing.
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  Speaker 2: We are getting a racing game in the year twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six, a Star Wars racing game. It is called
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars Racer. Now, this is really cool because it
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  Speaker 2: like has this like it has this aesthetic of like
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  Speaker 2: old school racing games. It really does feel great when
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  Speaker 2: you look at the footage and everything else.
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  Speaker 3: And people have been trying to get like, go, hey,
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  Speaker 3: Star Wars, you have a great opportunity here. People love
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Mario Kart. You have a built in opportunity to have
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  Speaker 3: Mario Kart in Star Wars.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but I took it a different route. Now, I
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: would love that this would be if this becomes like
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  Speaker 2: a party game, I think that would be super fun.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I think that would be super
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  Speaker 2: super fun. I want because I was a big fan
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  Speaker 2: of like the need for speed games, and like even
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: when I was like really little and my dad was
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the gamer, he would even buy like
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  Speaker 2: the NASCAR racing games and there would be a career mode.
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  Speaker 2: I would love to create my own racer with a
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  Speaker 2: career mode, and like with every race I win credits.
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  Speaker 2: With those credits, I'm able to upgrade my pod racer,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: like I'm making bets against the huts going from planet
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: to planet. Like that would be a fun aesthetic to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the game. I think that would be really really cool. Now,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I may be putting a lot on my expectations for
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: this game, but either way, I win if it, Like
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: just for the fact that we are getting a racing
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars game, I already win. The extra stuff is
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: just going to be extra. But like if I had,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like if people were to say, hey, Clay, we will
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: put anything you want into this game, I would love
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  Speaker 2: a career mode. I would love to be able to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: make my racer make those bets, like and there'd be
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  Speaker 2: like somewhat of a story mode to it as well,
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  Speaker 2: Like I think that would be really really fun. But
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  Speaker 2: the party game, like because I do think and I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: still think people have fun with Mario Kart online. But like,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the only bad thing is anything that has online capabilities
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: and or competitive play. There's always a small portion of
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: like toxicity that comes with that, So I'm not looking
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: forward to that aspect. But again, Star Wars Racing, I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: already having fun with it, and I'm totally down. I'm
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: totally down for it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm absolutely down for it. Now. I think I would
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: have to see a gameplayed trailer because I just enjoy
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the aspects of Mario Kart, like just like the Grand
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Prix elements. I know there is I think in like
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: some of the newer games, there's a story that you
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: can do to like kind of tag along with it.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I just I apparently I am not a story based player,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: or at least a difficult story based player. That's just
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: not my cup of tea. So yeah, I would definitely
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: have to see a gameplay trailer to go, hey, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: really actually do want to pick this one up.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: So it does say in the actual uh trailer, It
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: does say game engine footage, so I believe this will
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: be the actual footage that you have in game.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, I say gameplay. I remember I'm not burbiage specific
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: with I want to like see like, Okay, this is
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: what the game is about.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, you need you need so with teasers like this,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: game trailers are almost exactly like movie trailers. So this
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: is the tease. The next trailer we will receive will
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: be more of the story. Now, if this is truly
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a just racing game, there won't be a story trailer. Instead,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: what we will see is different types of racers that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: you can that they didn't show in the teaser. They
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: will show more maps and they will show I'm sure
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: whether there will be iconic UH characters that you can
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: play as as well. So like because we already saw Slabolba,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: he is the he is of course the iconic character here,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: which I do think that like what I want. Let
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: me actually look at the post that I shared on discord,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: because I did think that was absolutely hilarious.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: And this one has been confirmed to be canon because
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: in the trailer they talk about how like the Empire
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: ruined pod racing, so now we have to put it
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: back on the map. So I do think there will
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: be at least some story base with that aspect. But
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm a little excited about this.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Are we going to get the character from UH? From UH?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: From a certain point of view? Maybe that would be fun.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: But I did laugh at this tweet some random person said,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I'm glad the time. I'm glad time has vindicated Subulba.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Everyone was so cruel to him because he tried to
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: kill a child during the Banta Eve Classic, even though
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: he was bunto Sorry Eve Classic, even though he was
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: he was literally Darth Vader, Like, hey, I know it's
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: a canon event and so like he couldn't kill Anakin Skywalker,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: but just understand, I think the universe might have been
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit better if he killed Anakin. It's basically
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: what this dude is saying is I thought that was hilarious.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: It's like, what what if you got to go back
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: in time, would you kill Hitler?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like I'm these are two games that I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: am so glad ad that were actually uh shown at
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: the game wards. I really think Star Wars needed a
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: win with both of these and Athletic just with Fate
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: of the Old Republic by itself, I think would have
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: been a big enough win. But adding the cherry on
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: top for a racing game, I think that's even better.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Because again, just like you said, you're not a story
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: person when it comes to gaming, You're not a first person,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: first player or one player game story game person. And
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that's okay. A lot of people aren't. That's why you
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: know they have party games like this, and so for
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Galactic Racer to be announced, you literally have a game
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for everybody.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that's really really cool.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: But I think I think that's all I have, because
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: again clearly I'm not period video game savvy.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: It's all good. But we do have, of course, the
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: two comics that we will be reviewing tonight. The Jedi. Oh,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I said last week that we were reviewing the last
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: piece of New Star Wars material from twenty twenty five. No,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: this is actually the last piece new material from twenty
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: twenty five, which means we did it. Clay high five who.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: We are gonna be reviewing Fear of the Jedi, which
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: is the last piece of the main High Republic storyline,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and then we will also be talking about the last volume,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: volume five of the High Republic Adventures storyline. So which
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: one would you like to go through? First?
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Let's do High Republican Ventage volume five, because technically the
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Fear of the Jedi trade has the last piece of
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: High Republic media in it, so I feel like it
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: needs to go last.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So these technically, well, like it feels like
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: these technically go concurrently. Yeah, like timeline wise, but I
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: can I can see like the like, what was it
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: like release wise?
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: That like yeah, okay, they were Yeah, the Beacon, which
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: is the final issue in the Fear of the Jedi
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Trade came out I think two months after the last
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: issues in both serious.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, then that makes sense. So yeah, let's jump
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: into volume five of the High Republic Adventures. Of course,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: we always talk about the credits. Of course, this was
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: entirely written by Daniel Jilse Older. It was illustrated by
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Harvey Talibo or Tali Ba I think it's Taliba Taliba,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and then colored by Michael at A Yeah, tia a Ta,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and then lettered by Comics Crafts Tyler
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Smith and Jimmy ben A Court bet A Court bit
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Baton court Geez Louisa I cannot see. But we also
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: have additional artwork being for of course, the variant covers
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that are featured in this book being Alyssa Rambouli, Corn Howell,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Diana Sosa, French, Carlmagno, Elizabeth Bell's Sorry, and of course
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Daniel jose Older himself. So I didn't know he was
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: an artist until I saw one of the last variant covers.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said he wanted to because like he drew
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: kind of the art stencils for the villain group in
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Phase two's High Republic Adventures. So he said because of that,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: he wanted to try his hand at drawing a cover
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: for this series that had meant so much to him
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: and everything. And so apparently dark Horse was like, well,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: why don't you finish writing first and then we can
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: see what you have art wise, So that's what happened.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: But then they end up giving.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Them it's a fair like like a like, we technically
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: hired you for this. Let's wait until that's a completed,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: done deal and then we'll get into the additional stuff.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: So at least they gave him the opportunity.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I do agree, Like I'm glad that
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: he got an opportunity because I do think it's super
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: cool for that to happen. But obviously, yeah, so this one,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: uh it picks up obviously right after volume four of
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: the Higher Public Adventures, where the General is headed to
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: go blow up the energy generator for Eriadu's main cities basically,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: and so these uh, this these issues minus the last one,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: which is kind of like our epilogue, kind of all
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: tackle that and kind of honestly hit the same themes
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: that Fear of the Jedi has, which is tackling your
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: elements of Fear mm hmm in the grand scheme of things.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: But obviously, as we know guys from our review of
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: It's behind Me, It's it's the last book in the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: series called Trials of the Jedi. To move my curtain, yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: as we know, the Battle of Your Yatu is one.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: So I really don't feel like we need to talk
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: too much about plot here. It's kind of just like
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: highlight points.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Highlight points and character beats. Really is kind of like,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I think the big one here, and I think the
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: main focus for volume five was really far Azalla. They
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: were like the big it of like facing fear, and
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: it did come with like an ultimatum type of thinking
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: to it also, which was kind of interesting. But I
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: will say this, I comparing the two and I think
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: this will only be my, like, my real only criticism
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: for both books. Honestly, this one did not hit as
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: hard as Fear of the Jedi, and I think more so,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Uh High Republic Adventures fell into like a Hey, readers
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: are expecting this type of storytelling that we've been doing,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: which isn't a bad thing. You find your niche, you
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: find your audience, you write to that audience. That's what
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a lot of writers do this, one particularly being Hey,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: we're doing a lot of ships. We love people, love love, love,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: love love, and like the last twenty pages are nothing
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: but that, and like it kind of doesn't resolve like
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: for me personally, Like it kind of just like.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Let's be real, we knew Emmeeric and Cyan were coming.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that like and I think that's more of
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a thing for me, is like, hey, we already knew
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: all of this, so like us pausing to do all
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: of this. And again, guys, this is technically the ending
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: of the High Republic for any like for people who
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: aren't hardcore fans of the High Republic and to Star
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Wars and everything else, and they're just like completionists and
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: reading this stuff for all they know, Hey, I need
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to read this because it's the end of the story,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: you know, and so you have to tie loose ends up,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: you know. And so I don't fault them for that,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: but I I believe in one of our other like
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Patreon episodes by the way, guys, if you want to
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: go listen to those I talked about. How like one
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: thing for me personally that I've kind of got like
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: gotten like fell out of love with is the Hey,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: with the power of love, we win everything. And this
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: definitely felt like that at the very end.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I see what you're saying, and I'm not going to
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: say that you're wrong on that, because obviously it's your interpretation.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: My thought process on the power of love moments that
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: came up in this is like, hey, Like the whole
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: thing about this was what do the Jedi fear? Yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: And in the grand scheme of things, a lot of
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: what came out of this and a lot of what
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Yoda carries forward is that they're afraid of relationships and attachments,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and so that leads to the downfall of the Jedi
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: ordered later on. And so in this case, they're kind
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: of confessing those fears and kind of accepting them and going, Hey,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: you know what, this is my last moment on planet
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: your Yaduo. I'm about to die, even though you're not really,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: but like you think you're about to die. I must
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: confess my deepest, darkest secret. And so now that you've
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: confessed it, like, what's the point in hiding it? Basically?
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: And so I felt like that was more of like
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: fear of the Jedi and Volume five of Higher Republic
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Adventures was more about facing your fears and accepting them,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: and a lot of that was.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: In the real And I do think, just like you
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: had said in our last episode Star Wars, lucasfilm, like
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: everybody in between, like they are taking Star Wars in
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a new path forward, you know, in this modern era,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and so like we need to look at the Jedi
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: completely different. And this may be, of course, some foreshadowing
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: to how you know, the new Jedi Council will eventually
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: look like in future iterations of Star Wars, you know,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: like the one where Race Skywalker is going to be,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: you know, an older character and all of this other stuff. Right,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So there might be a little bit of foreshadowing here,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: but like I still enjoy that. I still like, hey,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: let's get rid of the status quo for just a bit,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: because hey, we have to learn from our mistakes. But
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: also how did we get there? Oh yeah, this is
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: how we got there, you know. And it's because of
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the timeline. You're technically years before Phantom Menace, so like
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: we have to show you the breadcrumbs to what will
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: eventually be the downfall, like you said, But like I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I was okay with everything else. Now again, it has
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: been a while since we read volume four, So opening
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: this book up, I was a little lost, and then like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like after the first issue, I'm like, Okay,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I remember a lot of these things. And again, we've
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: read Trials of the Jedi also, so like there was
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: things that I'm like, I know how this ends, like
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I know where we're going.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: And that was I don't want to harp on that
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: too much, but that was one of our critiques with
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Trials of the Jedi is the fact that, hey, we
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: know this story takes place in the High Republic Adventures.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Why are we double treading it? Yeah, And I know
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: we weren't tackling the same characters you, Yeah, But at
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: the same time, I wish we hadn't had those chapters
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: in Chris of the data. This is not a fault
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: of the High Republican pictures. This is fault of the construction.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, And that's what I was gonna say. I was
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: gonna say, it's not necessarily a fault of individual creators.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: It is literally, hey, this is how we're constructing it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And it may be a really weird idea of like, oh, well,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: some people who are reading the books are probably not
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: reading the comics, and it's like, but then they wouldn't
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: like if they're not reading the comics, they don't know
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: those characters anyway, They don't know any of that stuff.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: So do you really need to put this in there?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Battle of Irriatu is pivotal, Yes, but
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: it should have not been able to go multifocal. It
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: should have stayed Again, big critique phase three in general
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: is hey, we're separating things and you should be able
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: to do this, but also at the same time, we're
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: tying everything together, so you have to read everything.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I did say that the main focal point
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: was Farzala. So how did you feel about Farzala's story,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: their fear and the ultimate decision that they are needing
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: to make to quote unquote win the day.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I honestly thought Farzala's decision to pull the trigger took
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: a little bit longer than it should have because he had, like,
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: we browbeat this item over I think three issues, four issues, Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: and so it just feels like it carries on a
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: little bit much. I don't critique Daniel jose Older storytelling
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: much because I enjoy his storytelling very much, but in
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: this case, I do see a fault there? Like it
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: just drags and we should have gone, okay, we have
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: had the conversation with Orbitouk, his former master. We should
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: have been able to progress when Farzola goes, you know what,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: if I need to pull this trigger, I can, And
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: we should have said, hey, pull the trigger now, or
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: something else should have come up so we didn't have
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: to focus on that part of his character.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I blame I blame the formatting of comics for that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Just the way comics are built. They say, hey, you
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: need anywhere between twenty to twenty five pages, and your
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: story only leaves us with eighteen pages, so hey, you
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: need to You may need to add a little fluff here,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: but make it meaningful. And so of course you have
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: that vision with Farzola and his of course deceased master,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: And that is what kind of took me out of
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: It was like we because we got the tease of
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: like the stilowette on the Hill the last volume, and
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: we're like, what is that? This finally shows you like, oh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: it's his master. He's having a vision. This is going
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to help him progress through whatever fear he has. And
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: one thing that I kind of despise as much as
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I love comics and as much as I want to,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: of course stay in the business of comics, the one
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: thing that I absolutely despise in comics is what people
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: call the sing song dialogue, which is somebody will say something,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: the person that they're talking to repeats it, and then
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: the other person repeats it again, and then the answer
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: to that what was repeated twice is finally answered. And
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: it's literally to make the progression of comics quote unquote smoother,
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: but it never does. For Zala does the exact same
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: thing here when he is bouncing around the page fighting
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: quote unquote or sparring with his match with his master,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: they both repeat the same thing like two or three
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: times and then like again to add more fluff to it,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: like his master has this like phrase, because again this
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: was also introduced a last volume of how their sparring
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: was like a dance, and so he keeps saying dance
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: for a Zala dance and like it's encouraging him, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I understand what it's supposed to be. But because I'm
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: already taken out of the actual book because of this
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: whole sequence that didn't hit the way it was meant to,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: you know, so that's that's really the only bad thing,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: because I do agree he does make a final decision.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: He does say like, hey, if I need to pull
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: this trigger, I'm going to pull the trigger. And then
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I think a whole freaking issue goes by and no
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: decision was made. And then on the third issue of
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: this volume, they're like, far as Alla do it, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: like there's like this whole like he sees the ghosts
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: of all the very important Jedi Council members. Yeah, like
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: around him when he's making the decision to fire, and
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: he's like crying. He's like, I'm so sorry. It's like,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I know you're meant to make this like emotional beat
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: out of this story, but we know that you've and
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: when I say you, I'm directly talking to Daniel Joseolder
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: at this point. I know that you've gotten us so
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: attached to each one of these characters. And it's a
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Adventures comic. I know everybody's surviving. Like I hate to
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: be that person, but I know everybody's surviving. It would
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: have it literally would have shocked me if any of
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the characters actually would have died, like anyone, but there
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: there was like it and I think that was a
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: little bit more of something else that I had. It's like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: it's not the same critique of like, oh, we know
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: how this all ends. It's more so like there was consequences,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: but there wasn't consequences to this story, you know.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that was just a failing of
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: the beats that they set up in phase one. Very
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: few people died in Phase one, even if it wasn't
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: in the High Republic Adventures comic. Right at the end
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: of the day, we should have been able to have
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: more deaths and not have been like, oh, did this
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: person die? Did this person die? Did this person die?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: People should have been able to die. And don't get
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: me wrong, I'm happy some people got to come back,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: But it was just a little drastic how much we said, oh,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: these people are all dead, these people are all good,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: but no, they're not really dead. Yeah, or they should
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: have been answered in the opening issue or opening chapters
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: of the books that started Phase three, because like, it
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: should not have taken us five issues in the Higher
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Republic Adventures to find out that far Zala and Buckets
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: we're all not dead. Like that should have never been
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: a thing in my opinion.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Well, and speaking of buckets. We get another like small
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: homage to him, yes, talking about and like it like
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: it felt very odd, like it it fit in the story,
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: but like I think it was the very last issue,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: the very opening pages of the last issue, like Ariado
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: is getting cleaned up and everything else. Of course, the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: the story of the mission that the Seven went and
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: did you know that's finally gone around somewhat because they're
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: not supposed to talk about it, which I do have
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: a small critique in the Fear of the Jedi by
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: the way we learned about buckets of Blood and like,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like there's one part. It's not even
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: in the last issue. I think it's the second to
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: last issue where like, uh, who was it? It was?
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Uh oh, I never remember her name? The Jedi with
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: the uh very long brimmed hat with the two lightsabers,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Master yeah, sav sav Master Sav. Yes. Zile is asking like, hey,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: how do you how do you keep looking towards the
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: light like in all of this dark moments, and they
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: have a little bit of a monologue with Zile, and
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: that's when you see buckets, like you see a small
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: glimmer of buckets and we know at that point like, oh,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: he's probably at Planet X right now and he's about
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: to die. That's the foreshadowing of him dying. And then
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: of course in the last issue we actually learn about
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: his death. They actually drew it, which I was really surprise.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah I was, but I was also kind of happy
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: about that, like because Buckets was a High Republic Adventures character,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: and yes, he's pulled in two trials of the Jedi,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: but I do think that for the people saying, oh,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: I'm only reading the High Republic Adventures, like you need
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: that moment for them.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, which the freaking page where his death takes place,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: beautiful page, beautiful colors. I actually really really dig it.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I didn't have that one marked just because it
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: made me cry so much, but I probably should have
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: marked that one.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Well, it's literally the.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: This splash page, like, yeah, the color in this one.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's it's in the uh the second to last issue.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I did mark it, but yeah
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: that like that's heartbreaking.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful page.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Is there's so much it is so different from what
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: it like the High Republican meastures typically looks like. So
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: it's glad to see Harvey branch out into kind of
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: a vaguely different Yea art style, And I know the
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: coloring is not him, but it like it still fits within.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: The purple and the red and the yellow, like it
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: it all looks so beautiful. It kind of reminds me
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: of like a Crimson Sky.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I really dug that now and this page
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: to the final page.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: The final page. Now, I was not a fan of
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: the uh basically no dialogue twenty pages. I know, like
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: this would have hit probably really hard if this was
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: like an animated series and you had the actual song
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: going around and you like, this is the High Republic,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: like this is the Young Jedi Adventures, Like they had
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the music in the background, and they had the montage
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: They're trying to kind of duplicate that exact same thing here,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: and like it just didn't hit as hard, but we
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: get a lot of really fun moments here. I just
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: wasn't really a fan of it because I feel like
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: there could have still been a lot of meaningful dialogue here,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: like yeah, for one, freaking uh uh uh is it Ram?
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Not? Is it Ram? Or is it uh Knighthood in
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: this Yes, that's a big moment. I wanted there to
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: be actual dialogue there, and there was nothing. We get
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: to see, of course, a lot of the goodbyes, the
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: really the goodbyes of Forzala uh uh and like the
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: main five characters of the entire series, like we get
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: this moment of them all getting into like a group hug.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like there could have been a lot
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: of meaningful dialogue there. We didn't get it. But I
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: do like the like you said, the very last page,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the splash page of the kiss, like I enjoyed that.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I think that's a beautiful, beautiful moment. But like I like,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I'm the type of person that is like asking for like,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: hey give me, I need to assure this more than
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: just art.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted a final moment with Cantum and Lula,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: especially like especially after he's injured and she's like coming
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: to terms with it but then realizes, Okay, hey he's
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: not actually or excuse me, they are not actually that
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: I apologize. I wanted that final moment between them because
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: I felt like that was deserved, and that would have
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: been because ultimately, yes, we have a main five, but
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: Lula and Zene are kind of the main characters and
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: everybody else is kind of secondary. I feel like, so
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: getting that moment with Lula and Canton should have happened,
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: even if it was just a hug, like he's bandaged,
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: they are bandaged up, and Lula just comes and gives
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: them a hug like there should have There should have
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: been something that happened in my Yeah, but yeah, I
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: thought the issue was fine overall. There's some highlights that
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: we've kind of already talked about, but definitely, I feel
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: like this volume was one of Daniel jose Older's weaker
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: storytelling items. And I get that it's very hard to
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: say goodbye to characters that you've been working with for
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: several years at this point. Yeah, but I just wanted
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: a little bit more.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And hey, again, we know that this is not the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: end of the Higher Republic. Only one could wish that, like, hey,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: maybe we get a like three years later with all
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of these characters, you know, which I still think would
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: be really fun.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: So yeah, especially with what we get in the Beacon, like,
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: I think that's totally plausible.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: But speaking of let's jump into Fear of the High
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Republic again.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: This is the Fear of the Jeddah.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Fear of the jedis I don't know why I
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: said that. Of course this story does follow h Keef, Yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Kiev and Skier and of course Lorna Dee and all
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: of those characters. This one does put like a hyper
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: focus on Kiev though she is in a uh more
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: prominent position. She is now a marshal in this in
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: this last volume, and we see the weight of that
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: responsibility with Kiev throughout this entire story.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: And you and I had talked about when we did
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: Issues or excuse me not Issues volume one and volume two,
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: we had talked about how we saw Keiev Skier like
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: disdistancing herself from the order but realizing that, hey, I'm
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: a Jedi, I need to serve. I need to at
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: least figure out how to make this work for the
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: time being. And so in this it really comes to
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: a head because like, uh real, the reporter who we've
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: seen pop up and several items like, is like, hey,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Chancellor and Lina so has sent me to like stream
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: your efforts to the people so that they can know
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: that they're safe on the borders of the storm wall
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: and stuff. And Keiv's like, why do I have to
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: do this? I am a Jedi, I am not meant
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: to be in the public eye like I am meant
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: to be a side character, and I love that for her,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: like a lot of people put together when she first
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: made an appearance in phase one, and I know you
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: haven't read Jedi Lost, but she pops up in Jedi
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Loss Doku Jedi Lost as one of these things we
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: have read.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: We have read, we have not.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: You might have listened to it on your own then,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: because we have not read it for this podcast.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Have we not?
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, have I read it? I think it was recommended
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: by you and then I and then I listened to it.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I think that's what it was.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: That might have been the thing, but we haven't like
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: directly talked about it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, So a lot of people saw it was coming.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: In Fear of the Jedi really like High Republic Adventures
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Volume five highlights far A Zala's integration with his fear.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: This highlights Kiev's imposter syndrome, but also her true genuine
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: fear of Hey, the Jedi are not meant to be
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: what they are currently mm hm. And she really comes
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: to a head with that one. Uh. In this one,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: we also have kel Naka making his technical first appearance
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: in a galaxy far far away, because this is the
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: earliest he's been in Star Wars, even though he is
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: an accolade character. No, I guess the kal Knaka issue
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: would be.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Kell Knaka is in uh oh what was the book? Uh?
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I got two copies of uhh When they go to Kashik.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Was he a ro one?
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Uh? Let me see, how do you spell his name?
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: K K E L N A C C.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: A okay kal Knaka?
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: It was? It was what's his name? From the manga?
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: I thought, because I didn't think kal Knaka was a
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: thing at the time.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, right here the blight of Kashik Okay silas
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: to Burialga Burrioga. He says, here kal Knaka and Burriaga
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: arrive at the vessel's location. Of course, on Kannaka, who
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: was either blah blah yeah is uh it says here that.
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: I forgot about that. But he's a main charter, I say,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: main character. He makes him parents here as a genuine
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: side character because I think then in Tears of the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: Nameless he just kind of goes off with Arcof and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Bury and kind of like focus on like listening to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: the trees and hoping to prevent the blake from spreading there.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I'm also gonna double check the characters in the Wookie,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: just a double check. This will probably be a little
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: easier if I control elf.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: But realistically, one of my favorite things about this is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: other than Kiev's story, because I genuinely love Keev's story
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: in this series, but I also love I think Cavin
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Scott but tied in Tay Sarah the best out of
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: anyone who has tried to pull in Phase two characters
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: in my opinion. Say that again, Tay Sark the Purple Guy. Yeah,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: I think Cavin Scott pulled in his Phase two character
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: the best.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: I agree, I one hundred agree. And I do really
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: enjoy his very small struggle you're because it does show
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: the weight that's on his shoulders all of these years.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah you know, And of course nobody would really understand
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: this unless they read the Marvel comic mhm. Again, this
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: is where it kind of got a little wonky with
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: adding his story and a dark Horse release mm hmm,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: rather than finishing his story story in a Marvel Comics release.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: But I do like his addition to this volume. I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: thought it was really, really nice.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I love the play with vil dhar as one
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: of his fears, like disappointing his Jedi husband is Tayoserk's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: biggest fear and knowing that he would be disappointed because
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: he pulled the glove that was his defining thing in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: phase two. So what did you think about We've talked
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: about Lorna a great deal, so I don't know if
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I want to dwell on her too much, but we
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: get to see a culmination of her story and this
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: as well with the vamping of Donna pulling in those
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: plants uh people uh fall. I don't think they're fall nasty.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: But there are another force user type species that also
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: made the appearance in Dispatches from the Occlusion Zone in
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: that same comic that Sarah was in. Yeah, how did
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: you feel about the ending with Donna being that home
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: based planet.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I really liked her like position in this book, more
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: so because, of course, like in the very beginning of
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: this book, we see her kind of like facing her fears,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: that being herself and how she used to be not
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: the princess but the the Nihill pirate, you know, and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: it shows how much she has grown. Not only there
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: do we see how much she's grown. But even Kiev
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: reflects on a very important decision that Lorna makes on
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: her own. She destroys a night Hill ship that both
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Kiev and Master Yes, they both say, hey, don't do that.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: We're trying to save this individual. And Lorna de does
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: it anyway, and she hasn't technically a very valid point,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: like hey, without like in doing so, we get the
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: job done. We are literally like, I'm saving all of you,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: I'm saving all of us, Like this would have lasted
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: so much longer if we like just prolonged this entire thing, right,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: And Kee even like reflects on that, and it's like, well,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: I technically told her mmm, she says here, I led
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: her into battle. I told her, uh that she was
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: fighting for light life. And then I what should I do?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: I punish her when she did what she thought was
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: right and what was needed, Like she did technically the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: right thing, you know, in somebody's eyes and technically in
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: her eyes. It shows the growth and you can't punish
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: her for that. Yeah, going into where she's at in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: the ending of the book, I'm very curious and this
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: is like a what of scenario, Like it's so funny
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: because she had such a set Timler story to Count
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Dooku with the royalty in her family and her name right,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: and like, I'm very curious, does she at all attempt
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: to mend that or is it like, Hey, this is
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: my new self, this is my new life and this
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: is where I belong.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I would say she doesn't need to mend it, she
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: needs to accept kind of where she's at. Yeah, and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: going back into her path like that, especially with how
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Ryloth and Twilight's in general are kind of abused in
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: the galaxy. I just wouldn't mess with it.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mess with it. Yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: How did you take skiers arc through this?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: There wasn't really a lot there.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: His art is kind of got done in the in
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: one through.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Five and one, not only one through five. But you also,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: of course look at uh uh oh shoot, what is
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Lorna D's audio drama first? Uh Phase three?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: Tempest Breaker?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, Tempest Breaker not Runner Runner was the phase one. Yeah,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: so you get hit like his story is already over
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: and like you even get in a part of this story.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: We get small conversations with uh Avar, and Avar is
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: asking uh Skier like hey, what do you think? And
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: he's like, I think she's uh, she being uh kiev
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Is and I made Jedi, you know, and it's it's like, hey,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: what do I think? I'm just a bystander here, like
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: my story. Like that's literally what it feels like is, hey,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: my story's over. It's it's her time to.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: Show and he wants her to be able to realize that.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: And imposter syndrome is a big thing that millennials face,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: and even gen Z has kind of delved into it.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: So I think ke having imposter syndrome in this case
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: being a young Jedi and knowing, hey, I was the
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: smirched around, I was one of the most powerful, but
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, I've been thrust into this
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: actual position of power and I don't think I'm worthy
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: enough for this. Like that was huge for her, and
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I applaud Cavin Scott for having the balls to really
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: incorporate that, because not a lot of male authors do
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: these days. Yeah, so I greatly appreciate that, But I
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: also think the skier and I love the ending for
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: these two when Keep goes off and goes, yeah, I'm
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: glad you're sticker around a dad like and physically calls him.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Dad that one. I was like, oh, like, I felt
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: it like it was a quick like kick to the ribs.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, but I do have to ask
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: about the elephant in the room. There's there's two elephants.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: There's two elephant number one, the nameless. How did you
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: feel about the dragon Cthulhu abomination flying through space that
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: ended up being an illusion? Like, how did you feel
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: about that? Particularly?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a fake from the start when
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: I read this the first time, Yeah, because I really
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: felt like, hey, like, obviously I knew what we had
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: from Trials of the Jedi. A lot of people didn't
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: have Trials of the Jedi at the point reading coming out, Yeah,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: but we did, and so I really just was like, Okay,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: this is not legit. There's no way that Bulan modified
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: them enough to have wings and to get out there
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: in deep space.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: To be bigger than star destroyers. By the way, Yeah,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: it was absolutely like I saw this and I kind
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: of laughed. Now, I do think that the scavroids was
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: a little eye rolly, especially when the larger one, like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: that really big nameless ended up being an actually really
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: big Scavdroid. Kind of rolled my eyes at it. Again.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: We talked about like the main theme of these two
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: books being that of fear. Of course we have to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: kind of pass that along, ah, especially with this force
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: user I keep forgetting her name is Hutar, Yeah, being
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: able to manipulate the emotion of fear within a certain
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: like distance, you know whatever.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess technically so she is a fond Nazi,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: which was gifted in the art of illusions. Yeah, we're
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: actually going to dive into those in the New Jedi
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: Order suit ish h. But Boolin modified her to give
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: the illusions of the Persians fear. Yeah, basically, so it's
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: not necessarily like.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: And that's how and that's how Like that's the really
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: big and the cater that like, hey, this isn't an
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: actual nameless because other people can also feel this fear, right,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: And even Lorna d calls it out. It's like, hey,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: like I'm not a force user, and my skin's crawling
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: all over the place, like what's going on? Right? Yeah?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: So like I I had a chuckle with this giant
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: nameless thing. But I was like, okay, now the second
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: elephant Again, when people were reading this, they did not
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: have Trials of the Jedi. We have read Trials of
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: the Jedi before this Kiev. After all this said, Done
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: goes to Coroushant sees Uh. Sara is really excited to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: see them, like, oh, yeah, I need to go catch
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: up with avar in in In you know, and they're like, uh,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: you need to go talk to Yoda. It's like, what
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: do you mean, you just need to go talk to Yoda? Now,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Sarah and Trek they know we don't fight we don't
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: talk about fight club because that was the rule. That
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: was the rule. Okay, that was the number one rule
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: that l's are put on the table. Hey you're gonna
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: leave us here and you're not going to tell anybody
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: about what needs to be done and why we need
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: to stay and all of this stuff, right, that was
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: the rule. And what does Yoda do? Yoda breaks that rule.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: The first person he talks to being Keye and the
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: reason why I know that he broke that rule because
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: the very first thing she says in that panel in
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: the Jedi Council room is I don't believe it and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: there's no way to go back. He told her. And
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: this is why Yoda is the real villain of the story, guys,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: this is the reason Yoda. It's it's so it's it's
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: mind boggling how he can keep some secrets but then
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: can't keep others. You know, he was able to keep
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: for hundreds of years the the story of the Nameless
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: away from people. And then Hey, Keev, I'm actually gonna
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: tell you everything that happened on that planet, even though
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Well in clearly I think you, like Yoda should. I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: don't know if Yoda actually knows, though. Here's the thing.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: Here's my argument is because okay, a, if he does know,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: let's start there first before I dive into the other part.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: If he does know, I think he's trying to prove
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: to Key that she is worthy.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Of being a council member, of.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Being a council member and knowing things and setting up
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: that faith in her.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: I have a little bit of a problem with older
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: people in this like it, and this is this is
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: something that happens in real life, not just in Star
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Wars comics. Yoda did this exact same thing, but before
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Yoda did in this exact same volume, Avar Chris did
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: it to Key literally in the very first issue. It's like, oh,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: but you are ready. It's like, no, the only person
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: that knows if they are ready is that individual. You
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: cannot warse that upon them. And that's exactly what they're
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: putting into Kiev's brain and that is ultimately why she
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: leaves like she liked.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: So this is off my second point with going, I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: don't know if Yoda really knows. Elsar makes the group
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: on the planet swear that they will not reveal what happened. Okay,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: the Avar and Elsar are staying on the planet and
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: are going to balance out the force.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Here's the problem though, Sarah and Tarrek Terrek right, Terrek
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: was on the planet. H huh, Sarah wasn't, but they
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: still had the bond they bill could talk together.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: But Sarah was in the ship with Team B to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: go get them.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, no, no, wait, hold on, say they again.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: So Sarah was on the ship with Vernestra and Team
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: B to go get them from the nameless planet.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, but Terrek was still there when els Are talked
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: to them.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: I didn't know if he was though, because I think
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to go back and look. But I'm
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: fairly certain.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: Was this before because because Trek was unconscious. Was he unconscious?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: He was unconscious, and so they lost the bond. And
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: so that's why decides to make the move to have
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: Team B go down to the planet is because they
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: lost the communication and so they knew.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: I wish I wish that Charles or Tom was just
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: like readily available to be like, Hey, we have questions.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: Can you answer this answer?
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: No? But okay, So I don't know if Yoda actually knows.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: And so Keith might be saying and there's no way
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: to go back is because they had to leave the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: bodies behind on Yeah, she could totally be in that
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: vein like I want to give my friends a burial
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: they deserve. Is like the heroes, it's not. I think
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: it's open to interpretation here. I'm not defending Yoda, because
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: I do agree he has been that villainous of late,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: but I do think there's not enough information.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Here to know true very true. Now, this ultimately leads
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: to the very ending of this book being for well
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: for one. Before we get into that, we get a
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: very cute sighting in the very ending of this book,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: we get our friends from Young Jedi Adventures. I love
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: the addition here, and it does technically make sense, just
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: for the fact that, like, I think around this time,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: we probably could have gotten more of the idea of
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: like who they were probably going to be matched with,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: especially with them like starting to train more into getting
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: a master. So them being at this party I think
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: is really really fun. But we ultimately get the scene
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: where Key is saying goodbye to the Jedi order she
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: sees the writing on the wall. Everything that she is
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: talking about comes to fruition with and oh, go ahead.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: And that's why common Scott makes her a focal point
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: in the Yoda comic is because she is the Haunt,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: because she saw everything coming that happens.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: She sees what eventually becomes the Phantom Menace, what becomes
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: the Clone Wars, like she does not want to be
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: the Jedi that has to lead into battle. She understands
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: that like, hey, like, we are no longer just going
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: to be a keeper of peace. We are going to
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: be an army. And I am not okay with that.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Because one thing that I quickly picked up on is
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: the very first few pages of this book she is
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: defending random civilians in space and she accidentally kills Nihil
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: and she is so mad about it. That's the first
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: indicator that's like, Okay, what's going on, Like what's inside
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: your head? Kiev. Then when Lorna makes her decision, Keev
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: gets even more distraught and says, hey, I said I
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: didn't want to have any casualties. I didn't want to
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: kill anybody. And we see that Keev is going down
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: this road of like hey, like and not even going
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: down the road. It's literally what the Jedi were born
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: to be. Like, It's it's not like the lightsaber is
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: literally a last resort. It's supposed to be a last
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: resort and only use for defense. And you take that
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: mentality with any weapon that is at your disposal, that
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: of course being a ship as well. These vectors, so
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: like knowing like hey, seeing the writing on the wall
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: and her saying like, hey, I'm giving this up because
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: I just can't I can't do that. I think this
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: is a very valid point. You know. We asked ourselves,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: the entire High Republic run what is it going to be?
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: What's going to get her to finally say I'm out?
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: We said it even in trials, We're like, hey, it's
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: not here, like, so what is it? What is it
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: that finally gets her to finally say no, this is enough.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: This did not disappoint, this was a valid reason, and
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: you know her hindsight being like, hey, this is going
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: to happen. I really would love to see, like, well,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not entirely sure if this is like really what
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: I want to see, but like where did she end
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: up after this? You know? Because we do we do
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: see in some aspects of the Higher Republic, that being,
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: of course, the what was the prequel to Acolyte book
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Vernestra story, we saw one of the Jedi there tie
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: we saw her of course, being somebody who left the council,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: Like what is what is Keith gonna do? You know?
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: I I would like to just know, like if it's
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: just like a small little like snippet in a in
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: a new like encycloped, yeah, like hey, she's decided to
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: go live here and do this, Like I think that
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: would be satisfying enough for me just to kind of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: see where her head is at and like what direction
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: she wants to go.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: I would agree, I don't know if I would see
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: that happening, though I would love to know where she
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: ended up. I just don't know if that's gonna happen
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: just because it like as part of the Lost twenty,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't like it would be like a one off story,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: like there would be no Jedi involvement, because Yoda even
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: says in the Yoda comic, I wonder what happened to her?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: So I just don't see it happening.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, you never know? You Yeah, we could, we could.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: We could see an ancestor or like a a A
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: not an ancestor. What's the opposite the A legacy character? Yeah,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: of you know her lineage like oh you know, my
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: great great great great grandmother was Kiev in the High Republic,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, oh damn, you know, but that's very unlikely.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: But still this was a very satisfying ending for me.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this ending. Again, I just want to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: highlight Sarah in this Sarah is probably my second favorite
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: character in this book. I just I thought he was
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: super special in Phase two and I'm glad he was
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: able to come back in and again Calvin Scott killed it,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: uh with bringing him in and tying him into the
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: overall story.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: So also, I want to apologize because we jumped into
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: this book without talking about the credits.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we did shoot Kevin.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Scott being the writer, uh Marika Cresta being the artist,
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Jim Campbell being the color artist, v c's Arianna Meyer
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: being the letterer, Phil Noto being the cover artist, and
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: special thanks just you know, oh it actually does have
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: a special thing that's hilarious. Mikey J. Bosso for the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: special thanks. But we don't say these enough. The editors
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Danny Kazim and Drew bumb Gardner Bomb Gardner, and the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: senior editor being Mark Panika Panicia. Sorry. Uh these people
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: are literally the people that are able to put this
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: book together. That being they are the ones that are
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: also getting in contact with canonical Star Wars Bible people
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: like they have to be on top of it with
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: with those types of things.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: So, always appreciate the editors on these.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: Books and just as like some special art shout out
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: this variant with Kiev and Skier by Carlo Pegoulion, Jason
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Paz and Rain Burrito. I just love the artwork in
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: this very very realistic vibes. Christa's art in this is
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: pretty good. Definitely, I don't think compares two. I think
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: Ario and Nido, who did most of the art in
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Phase one and the first ten issues of this run.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: But like, look at this.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: This I couldn't like, I didn't really like truly appreciate
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: it because mine was digital. But yeah, I love the
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: splash page. Like even though like I said, I got
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: a little chuckle out of the out of the Giant
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Cuthulhu nameless it was, it was still really cool.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: This piece right here with Sarah holding vil Dar's lightsaber
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: of all things. Yeah, I did not see that coming that.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: So here's here's the thing. Here's the thing though. One
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: thing that I thought was that immediately ran through my
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: head is the very first time we see these characters
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: starting to hallucinate. Lorna Dee is attacking herself and then
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: she realizes that it's actually Kalnaka's padawan. He starts to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: hallucinate in the ship and he actually strikes him down
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: with the lightsaber. Who did he accidentally kill his droid? No,
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: because he smashes the droid beforehand. He yes, he's matches
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: the droid beforehand, and then like then he gets like
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: a moment to mourn the droid afterward.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: Oh maybe because it's a different engine, like it's not well,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know, because definitely a lot of illusions on
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: the ship like Hutar for instance, was a straight up
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: illusion like there was nobody around her, yeah and stuff.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: So who knows, but I think like there's still again,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: like just going through these pages, there's a cover with Avar,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Chris and Lorna d that I absolutely love. Looks amazing. Yeah,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: I think this was an excellent ending to a Uh.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to point out this page with all
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: the ships coming in in kel Naka to come to Ariado,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: this is the first time the Tagruda are mentioned. The Tagruda,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: We're supposed to be a big part of the High
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: Republic and just kind of like dipped off after Rises
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Rising Storm. So this first time they come back into
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: the party.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Who are the Tagrudas? Oh yeah, okay, yeah that's right.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah that page, this flash page is also great on
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: the Beacon, Yes, with everybody kind of just partying and stuff.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Super cool.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, I think that's it.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Still, I think a very good ending to a
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: long running initiative. Again, it's not the end. We're still
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: getting the is it dark Horse uh or is it
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Marvel Comics that's getting I think it's dark Horse. Okay, Yeah,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: we are getting. I think it's like a two years
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: later type of thing. I'll have to look back at
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: that announcement, especially.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: It's Phase two. It's not Phase it's not Phase three.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's two years after Phase two. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: so we're still like one hundred years before or fifty
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: technically forty eight I think years return to.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: The higher public. Okay, this is twenty years.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Oh twenty I knew there was a two in there. Yeah.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait, what are you talking about? I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: thought two years was a little fast.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: So that would mean that it's because remind me again,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: phase two is fifty years prior or one hundred.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: And fifty years, one hundred and fifty years.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty years prior to Phase one, so
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: this means that it's one hundred and thirty years prior
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: to Phase one now, so we'll see where we stand there.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is this is a six issue comic series,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: so it is a MIDI run. It's not it's not
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: an ongoing yeah, which I think dark Horse typically does.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: They do more of the mini series. They don't really
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: have uh ongoing stuff anymore.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do. I do have a little more
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: confidence in dark Horse, because dark Horse has been turned
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: them out and getting stuff out on time. Not necessarily
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: the volumes, but the comic issues themselves have greatly improved
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: on their on sticking to their original release dates.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, well that is it for this recording.
• 1:33:22
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• 1:33:28
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• 1:33:33
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• 1:33:36
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• 1:33:39
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• 1:33:43
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• 1:33:49
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• 1:33:54
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• 1:33:57
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• 1:34:01
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• 1:34:03
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• 1:34:06
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• 1:34:11
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• 1:34:18
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• 1:34:39
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• 1:34:41
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• 1:34:46
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• 1:34:51
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• 1:34:56
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• 1:35:01
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• 1:35:05
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• 1:35:11
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• 1:36:12
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• 1:36:20
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• 1:36:25
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• 1:36:27
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