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• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on? Everybody? It
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: is Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan and Draft Week. NFL
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Draft Week is here. First round Thursday night, and then
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: you get second in round and third round Friday, and
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: of course you finished with the marathon of Saturday. With
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the draft, Adam and I have done
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  Speaker 1: as much diligence as we can. We've talked to us
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  Speaker 1: so many people, personnel, folks, coaches, you name it. And
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: of course we're ending our series with Greg Cosel, who
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  Speaker 1: has probably profiled more NFL prospects with us this year
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: than ever before. So cornerbacks and safeties will be out
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: over the next two days as well, along with some
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: leftover guys that we weren't able to ask him about
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: earlier on in the process, and we'll finish it off
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  Speaker 1: at that point at him. I think we'll have covered
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: the draft pretty well, especially after this podcast where we
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  Speaker 1: get some intel on some guys right around twenty three
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: where the Eagles will you know, stated the pick and
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: could be picked.
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: So give you an idea of what that last show
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: was with Greg two years ago. That's when I begged
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: him to go watch tape of Jalx Hunt. Yep, I
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: just said this. Everything we were told he's going to
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: the third round. We didn't know what's going to the Eagles,
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  Speaker 2: but to somebody wouldn't get out of the third round, and
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't you know it, the Eagles took him. So I'm
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: glad we did that. So the one we missed on
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: it just because you got short on time was I
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  Speaker 2: think it was Miller, the left tackle from.
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  Speaker 1: From Clemson, right right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to give it away. His greg had
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  Speaker 2: some really interesting stuff. I was kind of like, wow, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so a lot good and some that's concerning. Yeah, his
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  Speaker 2: tape studies. So yeah, we won't give it away though.
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  Speaker 1: So offensive tackle is a position we'll get into in
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  Speaker 1: a second. That's obviously a position that the Eagles value
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: in the draft, and that's why we'll talk about it.
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: I think this draft is really interesting in that I
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to be a challenge to conventional thinking
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of teams like the Eagles, for example.
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  Speaker 1: Although the Eagles aren't picking high, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teams believe in positional value, not the Eagles, right, And
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  Speaker 1: there are several positions that historically aren't valued as much
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: as others. However, if you look at some of the
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  Speaker 1: top prospects that we've you know, discussed with personnel folks,
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  Speaker 1: they play positions that aren't traditionally of high value. You're
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: talking about Caleb Downs at safety. You're talking about Sonny
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: Styles and Rvl Reese that off ball linebacker. You're talking
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: about Jeremiah Love, the Notre Dame running back. You know,
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: anytime a team picks a running back on the top five,
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: they seem to get criticized for it more than praised
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  Speaker 1: for it. So vega Ione the guard out of Penn State,
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  Speaker 1: who is not a swing, he's not a center, He's
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: just a guard. Adam. So this draft is going to
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: be really interesting. And I know Brett Veach came out
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: and said that he thinks there's going to be a
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: lot of trades, and I think that's in large part
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  Speaker 1: because and I don't know that there will be. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying that's what he's saying in large part because
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: positional value is not going to maybe match with what
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  Speaker 1: some teams like and cove it, or you just might
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  Speaker 1: see some teams kind of go outside their typical margins
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  Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is the best prospect available and
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: we're going to take them.
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  Speaker 2: Well on that. See what happens is because this is
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  Speaker 2: in terms of blue chip players. The first round's got
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  Speaker 2: anywhere from thirteen to fifteen true first round grades. They're
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: called universal first round grades. Thirty two picks will go.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: We talked about this every year, but we have to
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: remind people thirty two picks are going to go in
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  Speaker 2: the first round. But doesn't mean that thirty two first
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: round grades are given out by every team. They're not.
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  Speaker 2: They're not even close to that. You rarely have over twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Every once in a while you've a drafted that's so
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  Speaker 2: good that there twenty to twenty three first round grades
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  Speaker 2: given out on average by NFL teams. This one somewhere
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  Speaker 2: in the middle. Some teams said thirteen, we've got fifteen
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: or sixteen. So you could get that information. As a reporter,
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: you'll get that they're not going to tell you what
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: they're who they are. They're not gonna tell because I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to give they don't want to give away
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  Speaker 2: to you. But you can find out. But the thing is, though,
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  Speaker 2: like Edges, got depth to it, but the problem is
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  Speaker 2: it's not big on blue chip talent. Bailly's the best guy,
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  Speaker 2: Bain's super interesting, He's got the short arms and they
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: off the field issue messages is a drop off fulk
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  Speaker 2: is more of a is a power end. But there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot. As we talked about on the show with
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  Speaker 2: Greg about a week ago, it's got some good depth
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  Speaker 2: to it, but not high end guys. So if you
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  Speaker 2: want David Baily to me, you got to get in
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  Speaker 2: the top five.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah, I agree, there's there. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I talk to a few people. They you know the
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  Speaker 1: number I got about. So you have to ask the question,
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  Speaker 1: so almost twice, how many guys do you have as
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  Speaker 1: a first round prospect? Okay, because in every draft, like
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: you said, the talent levels different. And then the follow
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: up was, well, how many of those first rounders that
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: you have graded do you think can make multiple Pro Bowls? So,
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  Speaker 1: like one guy gave me he felt that there was
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: twenty first rounders, give or take, and I said, well,
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  Speaker 1: how many multi how many guys you think can make
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  Speaker 1: multiple or do you project? And he said eight. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you really think there's eight legit first round guys? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: It is low. Another guy told me he had fifteen
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  Speaker 1: first round grades and fewer for guys who are going
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: to make multiple Pro Bowls. And to your point on edge,
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  Speaker 1: I think that really defines the draft because same thing
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: at tight end, where you have a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: talents Kenyon sidek for example, right, but both people who
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: I talked to you said, you've got this really good group,
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: but outside of Sadik, none of them are like the
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: Loveland that it project as much as Loveland or Warrant,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of them are one dimensional, like you
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: were talking about the dns and how they can do
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: certain things but not everything right. Same thing with the
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  Speaker 1: tight ends. You got guys who can catch, you got
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: guys who can block who don't have a track record
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  Speaker 1: of catching. It's hard to find a true, pure good
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  Speaker 1: why tight end in this draft? Who you in this
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: draft who you believe can both block and catch. And
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: then the same thing with right tackles or offensive tackles.
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  Speaker 1: There's guys who played left, those guys who played right.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys Max I for example, who
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  Speaker 1: their best yours are ahead of them there. I was
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  Speaker 1: surprised to hear this because one guy told me this
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  Speaker 1: book to AFC guy. He said he really thinks there's
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: only a couple of guys that are ready to start
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  Speaker 1: and play at a high level right now. But he
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  Speaker 1: likes the ot class. He just he just thinks a
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys can start, but they'll get exposed,
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: but two three years down the road is when they'll
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: be better.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite line I got from the personnel guy. He goes,
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  Speaker 2: it's good, it's a good it's a quality draft offensive lineman,
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: but it's the draft of short arms. Yes, he said
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  Speaker 2: he's never seen this guy's been in the league over
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: twenty if she's never seen anything like this up, he said,
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to and he mentioned New England. You're
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: gonna some of these teams are gonna have to be
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: like New England. We love Will Campbell's tape. His arms
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  Speaker 2: are an interest and a half too short, but you're
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: gonna have to live with it. There are a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of guys. It's guards. You're used to it. Thirty three
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  Speaker 2: thirty two and a half. That's typical inside players, but
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  Speaker 2: not tackle to be less than thirty four in charms.
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  Speaker 2: It's a problem when you're into thirty two and five
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  Speaker 2: a's or lower there's got a bunch of guys in
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  Speaker 2: the thirty threes. Man, I inches, matter of fractions matter.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you this stuff matters. You know the Patriots didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Patriots just totally said that they were not concerned about it. Right,
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  Speaker 2: And they will tell you the issues in the Super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl had nothing to do with Will Campbell, his his
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  Speaker 2: arms or his arm length. They felt they had nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I have, but I had.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: Two on that point. I had two different personnel people
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  Speaker 1: right tell me the exact same word for word phrase.
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: When it came to Spencer Fino, the very good offensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle from Utah who also has really good athleticism, and
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: I think he's a little short armed too, so he
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: also projects as maybe a guard or even a center
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: with athleticism, and literally word for word, both said, put
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  Speaker 1: him at right tackle until he fails, and then you
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: move him. And then I'm not saying he's going to
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: They're just saying put him at right tackle because that's
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: where he should be best at. But if it doesn't
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: work out, you'll move him in the guard, which is
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: I've never had two people use the exact same verbiage
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  Speaker 1: to a describing unless it's like plug and player, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in a phone booth or high motor. But they both
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  Speaker 1: said put him at right tackle unless he fails.
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  Speaker 2: Uh see. And it's funny. The Patriots are like, now
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: we're not moving Campbell to right tackle. He's her left tackle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're just we'll see how long they do it. I mean, yeah,
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: he don't have to play better.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: But yeah, and again, so I mean Campbell, I'm just
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  Speaker 1: talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying in general, Fano is thirty two and
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  Speaker 2: a eighth, you're not playing you definitely not a left
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  Speaker 2: tackle and right tackle right, that's a prob. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he's tall, you know, and like Will Campbell, I bring
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: up Will Campbell again, that's a problem man. When it's
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: if you got to if you got an edge who's
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  Speaker 2: six y four six' five thirty five inch arms thirty
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  Speaker 2: four hit Like Josh wett by the, way it's a
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: problem right.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: Right it's funny because some you, KNOW i asked one one,
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: GUY i, said we were talking About ruben Bain so
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: on the other side end a great edge rusher who
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: has very short, arms, right and he Likes ruben bay a.
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: Lot you, Know first round, prospect AND i, said aren't
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: you concerned about short? Arms and his response was those
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: tackles in college got long arms, too he beat them.
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  Speaker 1: All And i'm, like, okay that's, Fair but you also,
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Know i'm thinking at the next, level those measurables do.
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  Speaker 1: MATTER i, mean, yes he's going up against long arm
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: tackles in, college but they're not. All they're not Like Trent.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: Williams you, know they're Not Lane. Johnson so you're gonna
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: face a lot more better degree of offensive tack who
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: also have longer, arms and we'll. SEE i, mean he
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: might be, Right Ruben, Bain, listen the guy produced no
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: doubt about, it and he's gonna go in the first
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: round and He's BUT i do think that there are
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: gonna be if they're you know how every year there's
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: one guy who kind of starts to tumble down the
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: draft and you're, like, wow when are they gonna? DO
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: i think it's gonna be. Him probably not because he's
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: an edge, rusher BUT i could see it if if
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: measurable has really gotten a, way.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, downs with, surprise he's gone on the top Twenty Caleb.
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: Downs i'd be surprised if it's the top ten because he's.
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: Not he doesn't Have Kyle hamilton's length and and versatility
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Like Kyle. Hamilton and you have to Give mike McDonald
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: credit in his time he spent with, him he saw
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: multi positional. Player you could use him as a. Slot
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: you can line him with the, slot line him up
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: over tight. End there's several ways you can do. It
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: there aren't a lot of guys that come in the
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: league like. That and he's got i, mean really ideal.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Length and then you, know downs has got good size
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: and he's a very good. Player but is he? Special
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: like you got to be a top ten, safety you
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: got to be.
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: SPECIAL i think THAT'S i think YOU'RE i think that's
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: where team and. Scheme if if he relians with the
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: right people who know how to use, him you, know
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: can can really maximize his. Talent but if he sits
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: there and you, know plays the, post you know all day,
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: long that's not really maximizing his.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: Talent, Right, so, right and then the other guy is
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: R Vl. Reese how are you using him because he
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: could rush the? Passer do you see a pure? Lineback
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: is he a pure off the ball? Linebacker is he
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: an edge. Rusher can he do? Both, yeah that's because
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: there's a saying in scouting we have to know how
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: we're going to use him if we're going to draft.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: Him and that's between the general, manager the personnel, director
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: and the college scouting. Director they have to get on
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: the same page when you're like sunny, styles, right say.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Linebacker do not get me. Wrong it's a communication thing
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: where we lining him? Up is he a? Mike, okay
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: he's new to the. Position he's new to. Linebacker remember
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: he was an offensive player before, that, right how are
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: you using? Him Like baine is just an ar length?
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Thing and then with all these short offensive, linemen whare
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: you line him? UP i mean, Again campbell's thirty two
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: to seven, eighths that's really. Short fano is not too.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: BAD i mean he's got. Guard look he's six five
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: and a, half but he's got thirty two and eighth in.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Arms that's that spells guard to.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: ME i, agree guard or tackle in a a in
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: a play action heavy offense where you know it's all
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: gonna look like a run and so that saves you
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit and the ball gets out, quickly you,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Know because he is a really good, athlete so you
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: can get beat and recover if you have that kind of,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: athleticism but you just don't want to get knocked off
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: and you don't want to be Past finoche probably shouldn't
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: be taking like ten to eleven pass sets out of fifteen.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Snatch he shouldn't be playing For Andy, reid, right you
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: know What i'm, Saying like he's you don't want him
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: to be dropping back all the. Time you want him
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: to get on my.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Workout by the, Way fino's is really, Good like he can.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: MOVE i mean his ten yard split was really. Good
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: like there's a lot to. Like, yep but this is
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: kind of one of my guys told, me he, Goes, look,
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: Dude i'm just telling you you want to sound. Smart almost,
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: not he, said not, all but a majority of these
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: guys there's. Something there's an. Issue it's more on size and.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: Ability As greg said last week to. Us you, know people, say,
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: oh if he only had one more inch you know
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: on his, Arms well he. Doesn't so that's what he.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: Is he can't break. That you can't he's not stretch arms.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Are you're not gonna put him in like put.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Stretch you, know go go gadget.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Arms, YEAH i mean you could. TRY i don't think
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: it's gonna. Work but this is a this is a fun.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Draft there's a lot of. Mystery like all the steam
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: is that The jets will Take reade because he's so
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: he's so. Gifted, yes they're so bad on defense because
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: they traded so many, players right and the very little
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: town on. Defense, well they're not very good on offense. Either.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah and If i'm The, cardinals how do you pass
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: up On David? Bailey if they, don't BECAUSE i know
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: they put it out, there they're more than willing to trade.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Down mm. Hmmm well they have like no pass rush
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: they got for.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: Sure they've Got Baron, Browning Josh, sweat and.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: They have one round a big injury. History sweaty's a decent. Player,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: yeah they Need bill's. Talk bill's talked about it to
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: me so many. Times it's about. Upgrades, yep you need, firepower,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Man they've never had that a level pass. Rusher sweat
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: had a good year by way. Forever now look to your.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Point you Put bailey, In sweat And Walter, nolan who
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: finally got on the field at the end of the
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: year and looked like all the real. Deal it as
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: three of your four man, rush you're looking like you
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: can rush the passer a little. BIT i.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Agree yeah. Yeah so, look well we'll talk With. Andrew
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: you three of us are going to have our annual mock.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Draft BUT i just we wanted people to understand that
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: this is not a great first. Round and one more
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: THING i want to, Mention sadika is not making it
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: to twenty. Three i'm JUST i hate to be a party.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Pooper There's i'll put my two pe off that if that, happens.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Not in this day and. AGE i, mean last Year
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: loveland went what ninth to The bear?
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Ten one of them went. Fifteen i'll double.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Check but IF i thought he was gonna higher, THAT
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: i Think warren is the one that.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Went, Fifteen, yeah, yeah or even.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: ELEVEN i don't. Know they went. High they went two
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: tight ends went in the top.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Fifteen and, he's by the, way he is a consensus.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Better this is the way he's explained to me by
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: offensive coaches who graded this is once in a ten year.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Player yeah. Uh and and he's way stronger physically Than Kyle. Pitts, Pitts, now,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: look we can look at him now and good, boy
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: he's not being he's clearly not lived up to. It Uh,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: yeah last Year lovelin went ten And warren went. Fourteen
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: So Kenyan Sadi. Tyler warren is a very talented tight.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: End sadiq is a better football. Player i'm not looking
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: at what he. Did i'm just going buy college shape more.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Explosive, YEAH i mean he can get himself.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Open he's a. Solid he's not, like he's not a
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: a level. Blocker he's. Fine he's, solid right Like stowars
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: is gonna be. Right stowars is gonna be tough because
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: of his. Blocking like you, know if you're in love
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: with path catching tight, ends you like him and you
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: might take him day. Two but if you're really looking
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: for somebody who, block you might be a little thrown
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: off By, Yeah snek will be the only tenant goes
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: in the first. Round stowers are going the, Second, Yep
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: claire probably, third mm. Hmm then it's gonna there's gonna
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: be a drop.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: OFF i tell, you people like the Sam rouch. KID
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: i Give andrew check to check a lot of. Credit yeah, yeah,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: yeah a whole, lot especially early.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: On but he's a why he's probably gonna be a why.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Yep, yes all, right before before we sort of talk
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: about guys that we think will be around at twenty
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: three for The, eagles and that's always a dangerous conversation
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: because of how much they trade, up down and. DOWN
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: i wanted to get your thoughts and your intel on
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: The giants trading De lawrence to The bengals from both
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: sides of.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: It how do you see that? Trade SO i don't
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: want to speak For Dexter. Lawrence players always want to
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: get traded when they don't get what they. WANT i,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: mean they're just he they were playing a slow. Hand
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: then they finally, said you, know they started. Negotiating they
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: were willing to do, something but nowhere cleared what he
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: wanted and it doesn't help. THEM i, mean, yeah they
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: have Two they put it out. There they let teams,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: know AS i understood, it they were not trading for
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: less than it's the top ten. Pick they got the
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: tenth pick. Overall, yeah they have the, fifth by the,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: way and then their first pick in the second round is,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Fifth so they have three picks in the top thirty.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Seven that's really really. Good. Yep but let me just
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: AND i, know, look they haven't had the draft, yet
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: so it was Like Dexter lawrence and everybody. Else New Year's.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Roachez they didn't bring. Back they Let nacho. Go that's his.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Nickname by the, way he. Walked We're Robertson harris as
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: a journeyman defensive tackles there he'll have to. Start And Darius,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: alexander who's twenty six In. August remember he was very
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: he was twenty five when he was.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Drafted he played in their four man rush last, year
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: so they liked. Him, YEAH i.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Mean he's, talented but he's gonna turn twenty. Six so
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: by the, way you know he's also on There marlon
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Two polo.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Two, OH i could Own.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Marlon, yes they got a tackle prop.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, NO i MEAN i can see why The,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: GIANTS i mean The GIANTS i think made out really
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: well here there the fifth and The.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Dexter lawrence prior to twenty five maybe the best defensive
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: tackle on, football not. Anymore he had a really down a, year.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Right and to your, point they've got pass. Rushers they Have,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: carter they Have, thibodeau they Have Brian, burns and they
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: have this Kid alexander they drafted From toledo last, year
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: WHO i shouldn't call him kids since he's twenty, seven
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: but in, general he still has a, good like five
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: test six years ahead of, him and he can play
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: in that. Defense and then now you're adding all those.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Picks i'm conflicted from The bengals perspective at, him because,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: WELL i think he makes them automatically, better you, know
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: and he's exactly what This bengals defense. Needs they need, anybody,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: right you remember a tenth tenth overall pick for a
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: guy who's eight years in the league, already and you're
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: probably gonna have to pay him. MORE i JUST i get.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: It they extended in one.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Year but, yeah, RIGHT i get. It BUT i think
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it does make them. Better AND i know they're trying
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: To they want to, win they want to keep bro,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: healthy they want to win. Now BUT i also think
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that it's sort of like Those deal with The devil type.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Trades you, know it's a lot of, people.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: A couple of. Things they had to spend money because
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: they're a low cash bend. Team they got to get
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: over they got to over three or cash. Spend they got.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: It they had to get it. Up so they Brought
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Jonathan allen. In they beef up their d line by the,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Way Dexter lawrence trade extend his contract one year for
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: twenty eight. Million Jonathan, Allen boy And. Mafey they paid,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: cash so they spent some. Money they Drafted jametrius To
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: night last year a. Linebacker their secondary was, awful. Awful
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: they just. Returnable they Were Miles murfphy started come on
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the much Malign Miles murphy the first round of twenty.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Three did nothing his first two. Years so you, know
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the hope here is With Al golden here another year
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: they're giving him some. Help you'd love it if Your
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: bengals could we have one year where he Where burt
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: is gonna put the team on his. Back.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah or he could stay healthy, too that would be.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Nice he'd stay. Healthy and another dumb mistake that they
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: made was T higgins is a nice he's a good football,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: player but you don't want to tie up so much
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: of your cash resources and, RECEIVER i, know just.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Foolish or they could have signed him after the third
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: year to get him at a discount like The eagles.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Do they, delayed that's what they. Did, yeah he delayed.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It they just wait up when they're PAYING i, know.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Guess what they're paying. Him without looking.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: The way you're, Speaking i'm going to say. Something you're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: talking about average annual like twenty three, Million, yes twenty three,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: million twenty eight seven?
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Five oh my, GOD i mean you want to know
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: why they can't?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Win oh my.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: God they never they. Don't they do not prioritise offensive line.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Play they never have done, that and defensive linewark they've been.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Asked it's. Terrible it's just, right.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Right SO i, GET i get you have a chance
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to get Extra, lawrence you get, him but then But i'm,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: like you got him like three years after you'd love.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Him BUT i GUESS i.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: STILL i, mean it was phenomenal up until twenty. FIVE i,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: mean he JUST i don't know what. Happened he didn't play.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: WELL i think he.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Also dealt with some injuries last, year If i'm not
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: mistaken a little.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Bit but the thing is that the productivity when he
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: played was not there, right and they could not justify
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the casualty. One they just were not going to do.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: It but it leaves The giants staying in THE Nfc. East,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: yeah so let's finish off This giants wives right, now
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: they've got five and. Ten they've Got Andrew, thomas if
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: you ever could stay on the. Field they brought in
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Filele a From, baltimore another Another harbs. Guy, YEAH i
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: would think for that well obviously, detackled not that are
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: there's no we're only we'll see one or two d
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: tackles at most to go in the first, round but
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: nowhere close to worth of.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: PICKING i would run to the table For manuana for
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: them at that high at five and and just Move
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: illumina to right guard and just give myself three really good.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Lignemen but they probably.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Won't, well they need they, need they need a right
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: guard for the. Future. Illuminar they brought him. Back he's
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: going to be the right tackle for. Now the problem
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that they've had Is Andrew thomas's injury, history which has
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: been significant and inconsistent playing the interior of their offensive,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: line which is what you're talking. About they're gonna Get
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: neighbors back from THE. Acl they brought Him mooney for a,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Year Kelvin austin for a, year so That Darius slayton's.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Paid he's another. Guy, look we've always Liked Darius slaton
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: because he could run man he's another. Guy there's like
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: he's got to have a hard time coming back to
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: them in twenty. Seven, yeah his, cash it's just, well
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: first of all this year because they they guaranteed so.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Much it was. Contract they guaranteed ten million of his twelve.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Five like that's there Is.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Slaton, yeah, yes, Crazy, yeah but, NO i would take
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the offensive lineman IF i were, them THEN i would come,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: back try to get killed downs and then second, round
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: get me the wide receiver or. Something then Maybe delane
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: if he's on the. Board.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah could they need a, Corner, yeah they need a corner.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Badly and they also needed de tackled off to get.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: That they'll tell you What harves is, great they're going
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: to be forced to reckon with.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Uh and then you know With dallas they're gonna go.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Defense their, offense almost the entire offenses back just they
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: brought they Brought Jamonti wims, back multi year. Deal everyone's.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Back actually they're actually all back on. Offense it's they
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: need to rushers. BADLY i remember we talked about it
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: with With ezeraku coming back with the hip labor. Surgery
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: they traded For gary that they can't be done there
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: they got to add more. Talent remember, there they changed
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: their scheme from forty three to thirty. Four cornerback, wise
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: they're not they one of they ever been good for Corner,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Really diggs never became the player they thought, right flashed.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Right any, corners where are they picking? You what? Number So,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: dallas the cow polks twelve are picking at?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Twelve, YEAH i, MEAN i guess like McCoy From tennessee
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: would be a REALLY i, mean if you're okay with his,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: TAPE i meant from two years, ago, well gonna be.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Good. Run he ran, well so that's.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Good, yeah that's a good. Point they already got one
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: guy coming off The, yeah revel maybe the right maybe
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: may not do that's.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Why but the good thing is though he ran before the,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: draft so all things are looking good for him in training. Camp,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: yeah but again he didn't miss a season worth of.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Work that's a lot to you worried about, that See.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Dallas and the thing, Is i'll say it, again talking
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: to so many people who have graded their roster over the,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: years they they missed so battle football. Character it's hard to.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Win like you could have one or two guys that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: don't always play within the team. Concept but when you
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: got seven or, eight.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You know it's a. Problem, yeah, yeah definitely a. Problem all.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: RIGHT i got a good laugh looking at UH i
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: this has Been i'm proud of. Myself i've laid off
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: looking at mock drafts pretty much All BRUGLARS i usually
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: look at at some. Point, yeah, yeah BUT i got
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: a good laugh a few minutes before we started recording.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: This Rhtt lewis FROM nfl dot, com who doesn't really he's.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: GOOD i mean he's. Uh he's With Daniel jeremiah And
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Bucky brooks to do that that. Podcast it's really. Good
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: BUT i think he was just having some, fun like
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: you should have fun with a mock, draft because nobody's ever, right.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Right he had The eagles at twenty, three Taking Ty
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: simpson the, quarterback AND i knew that was. COMING i
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: don't know WHY i knew, it BECAUSE i, SAID i
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: got a good, laugh that's.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Why, well it's. Interesting it's interesting when you see some
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of THESE i haven't looked at them in a long,
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: time but you can always, tell like they don't really
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: file The eagles in some of, These, Yeah eagles Are
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: They're they're Very how it's become very consistent he builds the. Team,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: sure there are always outliers in any, draft but you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: kind of know. What you may not get the, player,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: right but three are the fourth first. Picks you could
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: probably tell the. Position you just may act at the,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: player right. RIGHT i mean if they Take Tys, simpson
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that would be a much bigger shock Than, hurts and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: that one almost may be faint twenty plussy, shorts which
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: is not. Good, YEAH i mean IT'S i, mean if
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: you want to take like a like corner to, me
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: would be a surprise at twenty. Three they could use
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: one for the future Because vic seems to be as
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: he says his, Words nicol is not a. Corner according To.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Vic we may not agree with, it but that's what he.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Says so they don't have a starting corner after the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: season Opposite. Quinon so that would would not not be
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a surprise to, you it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Would it would be a surprise only BECAUSE i you,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: know just looking into, CORNERS i feel like there's after
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the one from the top, one uh Dealiny man's FROM,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: lsu and the next one is the one we just
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: talked about who had the, injury. McCoy so he's a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: little bit of a question mark there maybe. Twelve SO
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: i kind of got mixed opinion WHEN i talk about
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: his physicality and, strength AND i even THINK i asked, somebody,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: well that seems like something that would not appeal at
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: all if he's if he's not great there To fangio
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and he, said, YES i. Agree SO i. WAS i
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: was a little not sure of him for.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Them SO i was told top forty maybe with sneak
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: in back of the first. Round, YEAH i just but
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: on your question or your, Point, yeah it's. McCoy you
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: just have to take a leap of faith And delaney that's. It,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: yeah that's see, Say well you'll hear us talk about
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: this With Greg. Boy i'll tell. This i'll say this
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: much about the cornerback. Group it is really, deep not top. Heavy,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: agree but there are at least ten starting quality corners.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Right easily the kid if this kid just, no he
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: didn't test through the roof, athletically and we know the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: egos in the first round like. That but If Chris,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: johnson if you're just going by, tape he is the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: if they took him at twenty, three at, him it's
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: a perfect fit for who they, are what they do
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Under Vic. Fangio this guy played in the zone Heavy
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: San Diego state. Defense they played a ton of. Quarters
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: he had a Great if you watch his interview With
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Andrew dechecko on our platform already it's been up for a,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: while you know that he has a very good understanding
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of all the responsibilities that a corner has to play
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in that kind of. SCHEME i, mean it's. Perfect the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: only thing Is and by the, way a couple of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: GUYS i spoke to think that he will sneak into
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the bottom end of the first, Round so it's not
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: an overreach at. All he just he's not special. Athletically
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: BUT i think very few of the, question even THE
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: lsu kid who might go top, twelve it's not he
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: ran a four two. Forty he's, good he tested, fine
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: he tested, well but he's not considered quote unquote like
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: just this supreme. Athlete BUT i could absolutely see The
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: eagles going Going Chris johnson twenty three because he fits
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: everything they want to do and who are they what
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: they're all? About so they can.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Wait, yeah we'll talk more about, This. Thandrew BUT i
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: know the, popular the, popular the popular opinion is offensive
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: lineman and Tackle but my concern with that is is
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: that are you just taking a player because you want this? Field,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: finally we know how that was worked out not very
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: well in twenty. Nineteen were you taking now If freeling's,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: there perfect fit for his own perfect, fit perfect Fit
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Blake miller Here greg's review of. Him Your proctor's got
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: a weight issue for guy as big as he, is
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: he's not as long as you would think he would. Be,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Right so Iron achor is, Interesting lomo is, interesting and
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: any of there's a drop OFF i. Need there are
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: a couple of coaches are going to talk to this
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: with just to give me an idea OF i got
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to get a better idea of this scheme because we.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Don't they haven't run it's Been stoutlin's scheme since twenty,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: thirteen so this is like different where we have to
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: look at it. Differently so, yep.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yep by the, way one of the GUYS i spoke
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to you About Blake miller said he's an interesting, guy
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and that's almost excused segues perfectly to what you were
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: saying With Greg Cosell scouting report. Autumn just how he's
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: got some really but then also some strange. Stuff that
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: really makes you, like, What, YEAH i don't. KNOW i
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: guess if you were to say who outside of The
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: miami Guy Manuana, MANANA i.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: DON'T i don't.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: KNOW i think It's. Manajuana it's gonna be whatever your
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: your your choice. Is freelings very. Good i've gotten good
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: stuff On freeling. Again For. No we talked about some
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: people might view him as an interior. Guy MAX i right,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: now from What i'm, gathering right tackle only can't play
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: left at the, moment and he really has to clean
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: up footwork and technique because he's only played football for
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a couple of. Years we already told, You, Uh, Miller
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Blake miller has got some. Concerns caleb is? It caleb is?
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: That DID i pronounce that?
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Correctly lomu is another guy who again people think THAT
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: i spoke. To once he gets stronger and refines a little,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: bit it'll be. Better but right now there are some issues.
• 31:25
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  Speaker 2: The GODS i spoken like the depth of this, draft
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  Speaker 2: but they they it's arm, length is definitely a problem
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  Speaker 2: you talked about his history of you, know he hadn't
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  Speaker 2: go based on the top fifteen guys going off like they.
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  Speaker 2: Should no one, dropping like Like John campbell, did uh
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  Speaker 1: twenty one and. Up drop from the top fifteen to
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  Speaker 1: yeah well, yeah like were we talked about baying with the,
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  Speaker 1: measurables ALTHOUGH i don't see that. Happening maybe the corner
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: because of his that we talked about McCoy because of
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the injury. DROP i, mean after you get outside the,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: TOP i feel like say, down just like you're saying
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: after the top. FIFTEEN i don't think Like i'm just
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: gonna Use Daniel jeremiah's top fifty just as an, example
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Like Mickey Warren is, sixteen D enemen From say The
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Sainty morgan, Seventeen Cooper Omar cooper. Eighteen these are guys
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: that can go, Anywhere like when you talk To Guy
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Blake miller nineteen.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Twenty oh, yeah none of.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: These guys like going in the lower twenties or even
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: early second round to, me are are dropping because like
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: it's all a big mix of good players who have
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of question marks here and.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: There, yeah and then the next one of the. Last,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: lastly people will like to ask, Us, okay who would
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you trade up? For Well downs not a trade up well,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: GUY i JUST i don't know that he goes to
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the top.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Ten would you trade up For fano if he got
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: into fifteen to? Twenty good?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Player that's that's ANOTHER i have to run his name
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: by some. People David bailey's the. Guy to, me you
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: if you're in the top, ten you want an as,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: rusher go get this. Guy mm, hmmm because if you need,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: one if you don't have, it you need, it or
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: you need an, upgrade which The cardinals.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Do. Hello, yeah but you know when an edge player
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: like that, drops if he drops to like ten to,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: twelve someone's gonna give a Good holt not.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Not making it outside the top ten, There i'd be. Shocked,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: right The chiefs would fall over themselves at. Nine they
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: have nothing at edge m. Hm and then Inside Chris
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: jones is you, know thirty two years, old so he's
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: he's up.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: There so, right what do you think about? This as
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: we finished Off.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Washington also with with With, BAILEY i don't see them.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Passing, YEAH i would agree a wild car all, Right
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: so we know The eagles offensive line edge we just
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: talked about that corner could be but what about wide?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Receiver all? Right is there because there's a guy that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: head that would be not the, first not in the.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: First But i'm saying if they were going to if
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: they're really going to take a chance on a true
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: ex wide receiver who could be there because of some,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: reasons that would drop out of the top. Fifteen the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: kid that comes to mind is. Conception he, oh, well,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: okay so from a heap stamp from an from this,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: yes when.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: But i'll talk about it. NOW i have one coach
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: told me he does not agree that he can't play
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: THE z. Position he said he absolutely. Could he, said he,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: yes we know he's a, slot but he, goes trust,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: me this guy will be A z at this next.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Level he said he could line him up Pretty he's
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: not AN, x but you can line him on the,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: outside he, said he, Goes i'm going to educate. You he,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: goes you have to see it, conceptually what it looks
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: like at our, level the way we deploy. Receivers it's
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: not it's so much different than college, football spacing and,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: everything because absolutely you could find him as a move.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: PLAYER i was, like, okay, COOL i, SAID i, said by,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: man not everybody agrees with, you but that's good to
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: know because you're a. COACH i was, like that's.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Good, no one of the guys that spoke to you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: really thinks he's as talented as any receiver in the.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Draft but he did have an issue with, drops and
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: he did have some maturity, concerns but as far as
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: explosion and, ability like you, said to line up and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: this guy even thought he could play SOME x because
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: he's got enough savvy at the position you would want
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to full. Time but but remember The eagles might be
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: running an offense with a lot more condensed. Split so
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: your TRUE x isn't lining up way outside and asking
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: to beat a corner twenty yards down the. Field it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: really more about getting open in, space right we're assuming
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that with this new, offense but they felt he could
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: be either. Way this this guy thinks he's as good
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of a playmaker as there, is as long as he's
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: heads on right and he's catching the.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Ball, well, yeah so this receiver. GROUP i had one
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: coach tell me he great Ed tyson is the best
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: receiver in this. Draft he, GOES i know that everyone he,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: said takes the best d. Threat m hm. H he
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Likes Ted herselotti, said he you have to be. Patient
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: he needs a long way to, go but the upside
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: is really. Good he's got everything you. Want. Yep just
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: ad big be a big step up for. Him it's
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: a it's a you, know he you're not gonna play
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: much yere. One most, likely it's just a matter of.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Patience but, yeah it's it's a fun draft because you
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: AND I i've exchanged a lot of information AND i
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: got a couple of things for this mock, draft which
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: might depending on which Team i'm picking. FOR i got
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a couple spot.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: All, Right so let's we'll close it on. This LET'S
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: i think we would if we were handicapping. It offensive
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: line is feels like the most likely. Vision, Yeah so
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: knowing who The eagles are and how they, pick and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: knowing that we just went through a bunch of ots
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that are probably could be in that twenty three, range
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: but they all have question. Marks does one strike you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: as one The eagles would.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Jump on or based on, schematics based on the kind
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of linement they're going to look at? Here, Yeah, freeling
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: no question if he makes. IT i don't think he'll make.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: IT i.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Agree is the drop off from See, proctor that's the.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: One that's the one that him And Max eye are
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the two guys THAT i think THAT i could see
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: The eagles thinking three years down the, road think that
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: they could get a stud out of either of those.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Guys i'm JUST i think he's. MORE i think THAT
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: i think The kiff And bama's. More to, me he's
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: more stout guy based on, size that's.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Fair he is a good athlete, though.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, NO i know, That but he's also his ways of.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Concern oh is?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: It?
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Well what?
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: No, yeah The kiff And bama's Got in, fact what
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: if he weighed the? COMBINE i think three sixty?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Six oh as in too much?
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Weight?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: OKAY i see, yeah, yeah. Yeah the athletic upside is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: MAX i or A Proctor.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Max size THAT i. Know you got to be, patient
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: which is fine because he's not gonna play this year.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Anyway is not about, now it's about the. Future and
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: he's a great fit for footwork body. Type.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yep you just.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: He needs he just needs reinfinement because he's so. New
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: it's uh. Fat he's a fascinating uh he's a fashioning.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Guy there's no question about, it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: No doubt about. It all, right good. Stuff, well we
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: have more throughout the. Week of. Course again we have
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: our last few episodes With Greg cosel breaking down. Prospects
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: we'll have OUR Nfl First round mock cast that we
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: do every, year, Myself adam And andrew De checko coming out,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: soon and we'll continue to do pre draft coverage up
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: until the main Event thursday night in the first. Round
• 40:18
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