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Underscore and that's pro two Underscores A n T In this special edition of Disguise
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Coverage, we are continuing the recent theme of diving into the Buffalo Bills offense
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in twenty twenty four and forecasting who and what they will be in terms of
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schematics, in terms of personnel, in terms of usage rates and snap counts,
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and anything and everything as this Bills Tea undergoes a significant revamp of sorts
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offensively and defensively going into this year versus what they've been previously. And the
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reason this episode is a special edition is because one it's pre recorded instead of
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being live on our normal Tuesday night slot. And the reason that this show
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is pre recorded and not live is because I adjusted to accommodate an absolutely tremendous
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guest. That guest will be continuing the conversation with us today on that Buffalo
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Bills twenty twenty four offensive outlook. I am joined by one of the best
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when it comes to anything and everything football, a guess that I am extremely
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excited to sit down with and talkball with. Today. I am joined by
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Miss Mina Kimes. Welcome to the show. Hi, thank you, thank
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you so much for the applause, and thank you for having me on.
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As I said before we started, Kim highly recommended by a lot of fine
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folks on the football Internet, many of whom I've had on my podcast.
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So I'm looking forward to this conversation. I appreciate that, thank you very
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much. I appreciate you saying it offline and then even more show like more
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so when this is live, So it just kind of like gives me even
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more own fannemphasis. I appreciate that so much. We'll get right into it.
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Make sure we'll get you in and out on time. So, like
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I mentioned in the intro, and you've dabbled a bit in this conversation on
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Twitter on NFL Live, you and Nate got into some small pieces when you
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did the QB draft last week talking about Josh Allen. But just kind of
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leading off with what are your expectations for this Bill's offense schematically in twenty twenty
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four. They are going undergoing changes. They're revamped, rebuild, depending on
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how you want to look at it. They're tweaking the offensive line a little
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bit. Stefon Diggs gets jettisoned out. They're bringing in different body types at
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the wide receiver position. Then they've traditionally gone with what are your expectations for
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this offense in twenty twenty four. That is a big question that we could
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talk about for a long time. So you litered this. I just did
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a QB draft with Nate Tice. You guys haven't listened to that Menikim show
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you can watch on YouTube. Josh Allen went second, which was I think
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where that was. We agreed on one and two and then not a lot
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of spicies there were there, but we were both like Josh Allen's obviously second
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right, which I don't think should be controversial. In a few weeks,
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I'm doing my Top ten Offenses pod and I think that'll probably come out long
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after this one. So a spoiler, the Bills are still in the top
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ten, which I think not everybody might agree with right now because of the
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uncertainty around the skill players, a scheme all that. A lot of that
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flows from the fact that you have Josh Allen and pretty much and you know
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it's the same with Honestly last year with Patrick Mahomes, I was like,
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I'll still have him top ten now. The differences well, actually the Chiefs
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Office had finish eighth and DVA. I think. So when you have one
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of those guys, you're pretty good. It's good. It just it just
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works. But that in the process of ranking them, and you guys can
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listen to find out where they do land. I spent a lot of time
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diving into the splits before and after the coordinator change, just to kind of
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try to figure out what change, what got better, what got worse.
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And I'm sure you've done the same and thought about this a lot, and
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they're really it's really interesting. And this of course is before Diggs left and
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Coleman arrived, which will change things even further. But I was trying to
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get a grasp of what really changed with Joe Brady, because you know,
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I wasn't wholeheartedly opposed to the switch at all, but the offense was good
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before, so you know, and I and I you know, I it
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was good before, it was good after in some ways, uh, statistically
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it actually was better before, but I think competition factors into that as well.
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But the biggest things that jumped out to me when I dove into the
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splits, because a lot of it actually looked pretty similar. I think the
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number one thing by far was the and this is obviously to anyone who watched
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the Bills, particularly in some of the higher profile games the end of the
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season, not just the willingness to run the ball, but the willingness to
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run the ball when situation was favorable to doing so. One thing that really
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jumped out to me, I was pulling these So next one Status has this
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great stat called run rate over expected, and you can actually parse that I
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don't know if you've ever seen this into situational run rate over expected and formation.
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So before the coordinator change, the Bills were the fifth lowest based on
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situation, the sixth lowest based on formation, both negative meaning they were less
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likely than average. Afterwards ranked near the top of the NFL, and based
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on formation, they actually Joe Brady. Brady's Bills ran it at a ten
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point seven percent clip higher than expected, which is very very high. So
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they were good running the ball before, they were good running the ball after.
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They were just more willing to do so. So I think that's something
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I expect to continue. We can dive into what that run game might look
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like. But to me, that was the single biggest change you saw.
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And then the other thing that really jumps out, Oh, I guess we
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should ask they smashed the Josh Allen run more. But yeah, you know,
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yeah, okay, so that's kind of something you always saw with the
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Bills with Josh Allen as the season progressed. I always kind of had a
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joke that there was like the breaking case of emergency glass any type, yes
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exact. You could tell they were kind of just keeping him, being like,
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we don't want to do it unless we need it, and then it's
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like week twelve or thirteen and they're like, we need it, smash it.
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I don't know how much to put that on Brady or even to assume
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it's something we'll see in the beginning of the season again, but that's something
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obvious. But the other dramatic change Anthony that I noticed was just the usage
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of Stefan Diggs and how that changed the tenor of the offense, which is
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to say, if you look at Josh Allen's target depth and the route types,
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a lot of it looks the same actually deep ball, same intermediate,
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same. The biggest difference is he just threw a lot more screens to Stamon
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Diggs, who's the route profile became much more screen heavy, ISO heavy,
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part of the reason why he wasn't as productive down the stretch and you saw
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she care really emerge as a deep ball threats. So again, I don't
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know if that's something that will continue necessarily because Coleman's a very different player,
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for example, but that was something that really jumped out. Otherwise, the
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past game was, you know, pretty much equally effective before and after the
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switch. I love that you led with the run game pieces. I've been
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making the joke for maybe like two or three years that I've just wanted the
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Bills to shift. They were so pass heavy, and I thought if they
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could have a pivot in the run game, didn't have to be their number
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one option, but have a genuine pivot in the run game, it would
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just do wonders. And as they got better in the run, the offense
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opened up more. But then with the advent and prevalence of all the two
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high coverage structures and the pass heavy defenses, we saw a lot of them
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being built to stop offenses like the Bills and the Chiefs and put a cap
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on everything. I just kept having this joke. I was like, I
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just wanted them to switch to like this power run game play, action bootleg,
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all this stuff like kind of zig when everybody else is zagging, and
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that was a bit of what I loved with Joe Brady the most down the
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stretch and you hit it on the head my I'm especially in the Bills circles.
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I think I was one of the more pro Ken Dorsey people. I
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didn't think as much was on his plate in terms of blame, as he
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just kind of got used to this blanket cure all scapegoat and anytime anything went
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wrong, if it was snowing and a rainy in Buffalo, everybody's like,
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god, Ken Dorsey sucks. Look at the weather today. It just really
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got out of control. But my biggest gripe with him was that lack of
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commitment to the run, because even down the stretch in twenty twenty two,
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whether you're looking at it from a DVOA perspective and EPA per a temp perspective
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or just watching on the tape, they had a successful run game. I
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immediately think back to when they closed out that the Saturday night game against the
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Dolphins in the snow in Buffalo, and they're just leaning into their tackle rap
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scheme. Something Brady did a ton against the Cowboys in twenty twenty three,
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where he just spammed it like what seemed like thirty times in that game,
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but Dorsey wouldn't he wouldn't fully commit to that run, and it felt like
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it took him a while to get into it, in a while to feel
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it out. And I think that's a very good jump off point for what
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this offense will be in twenty twenty four, because I do expect the run
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to be heavily prevalent in this offense. They had one of the best ground
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games last year. Whether you're taking you're looking at just Josh Allen, you're
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looking at just you know, running back carries. They were seventh and just
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running back carries with epa per attempt. And then when you factor in Josh
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Allen in terms of what he can do from design runs from the scramble game,
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and then how that works with what defenses are trying to throw at them,
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combined with the question marks that exist from a pass catching standpoint, I
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really feel like the run game. I'm not going to sit here and say
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they're gonna be like a sixty to forty split in terms of the run,
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but one of the better run teams in the league, one of the highest
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gap run usage rates last year. They were third in the league. I
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expect close to like a fifty to fifty split with gap and zone, that
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they're able to get into a lot of pieces, and especially early on where
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they're trying to figure out who they are offensively. Yeah, I mean an
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unbelievably effective run game you mentioned even if you take out Josh Allen, who
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that was kind of what Nate and I got into, which I feel like
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continues to be unappreciated how unbelievably dominant and efficient Josh Allen is as a runner.
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He is very, very good. It heavily influences the way defenses play
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the run generally. But the other thing that really struck me when I was
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looking at some of the run stats I looked at before after the change,
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it was always good question was just the commitment. But even if you know
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so before they ran into a light lot of light boxes because they were such
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a pass heavy team. You saw that the year before. Even if you
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took out takeout light boxes from the Bills offense last year, they were still
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first and EPA per play and second in success rate running the football into neutral
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or stack boxes, which is it speaks to a lot of things. I
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think the presidence of Josh Allen. I think this is a very good run
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blucking offensive line. Obviously Morris is gone. We'll see how that affects things.
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But I think the tackle duos but sens around I thought was actually decent.
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And then yeah, I think James Cooks are really good back too,
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So it's a really good run game. I guess for me, you know,
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you asked me about the change in the offense. I kind of spoke
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to the changes we saw last year. Obviously that was a mid season change,
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right, so you're changing things on the fly. To me, the
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biggest question I have, aside from the wide receiver usage, which we can
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talk about and who plays what role is can you make the rushing and passing
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attack feel more cohesive? And I think that would be the step towards Okay,
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this offense was really really good after it was good before, it was
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good after. How can we make sure that it's a top five offense in
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the NFL and also potentially compensate for you know, not having a true number
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one as they figure out who Keon Coleman is and how he fits into things.
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To me, a lot of that is can we make all of these
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things tied together. We have this unbelievably dominant run game. Can we build
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you know, RPO play action pass attack off of that that is as effective
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as the Rams, the Ravens, whatever. Some of the teams across the
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NFL who I think do a better job with that. I love when I
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bring people on who I think highly of and I respect and like they like,
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I have no idea what you're about to say. I gave you some
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anchor points to our conversation. And I love when you start saying things that
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I was planning on saying, or that are already in my brain. It
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just makes me. Yeah, it makes you feel so great. That's a
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huge one for me. More of a marriage of the run and the pass.
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I remember before the twenty twenty three season, I was watching I think
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it was in I don't think it was a coaching clinic. I think it
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was an interview with Jeff Scotland, the Eagles offensive line coach, and he
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was talking about how every run that they have, they have a pass that
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goes along with it, where the setup, the design, everything looks the
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exact same, except it's just a pass instead of a run. And I
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was like, that seems like such a simple thing, but it's such an
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effective thing at the same time. And I expect the Bills to lean into
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that more from a formational standpoint, given how their offense is built now with
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their pass catchers, and so much of successful offense, especially successful rushing attacks,
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is in the NFL now. Teams like the forty nine ers, teams
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like the Ravens, teams like the Dolphins, you know, actually than the
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Rams, although in a different perspective that I'll talk about in a quick second.
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They lean into kind of the uniqueness of the personnel that they have and
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use that to put defenses into a buy. And you look at the Dolphins,
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who have a forty twenty one personnel use to drate highest in the league
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last year because of the prevalent the ability to use alec Ingold as a blocker
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or in all their RPO flooded floods and everything that they try to do with
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McDaniel. And then you look at the Niners, who have Kyle Uschak and
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who just use him in every way, shape and form thirty six percent twenty
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one personnel usage rate, eleven percent twenty two personnel usage rate, so forty
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seven percent of the time they have two backs on the field, usually use
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Jack and McCaffrey. Sixty percent of their snaps come with either two tight ends
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or two running backs because of what they can do with Kittle and how he's
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effective. And then you look at teams like the Lions, who had sixty
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four percent eleven personnel usage rate but were second in EPA per attempt for running
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back carries. And granted, some of this is because their offensive line is
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really good, but they had these bigger bodied wide receivers like Josh Reynolds and
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Donovan People's Jones, who were second and third, respectively in terms of wide
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receiver snaps. People see the pass catchers on that team and right, so
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you think I'm on Ross, Saint Brown, Sam Laport, and then it's
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like, okay, can James and Williams be anything? But Reynolds and People's
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Jones went a long way towards allowing them to stay in eleven and being able
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to access both the run and pass menu without having to switch out of eleven.
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And then the Rams take that notion and dial it up to one thousand.
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They were ninety five percent eleven personnel usage rate last year and then were
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six in terms of EPA per attempt for running back carries, and that's you
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know, Cooper, Cup and Pookin decor tremendous pass catchers and receivers. They're
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also very good run blockers. You can use them to insert and fit up
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on duo or just against second level defenders wash defenders down. And that's also
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something I expect the Bills to lean into, not just the matchup pieces they
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can create in twelve personnel with Kincaid and Knox or a eleven with some of
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their bigger body than athletic receivers who are also good blockers, but being in
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those personnel groupings and being able to access more of the menu from a run
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and pass standpoint put defenses into a true buying because you don't know what's coming
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at you. And then I expect them to pair that with some more like
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Sean McVay type pieces in terms of condensed formations, where you can really lean
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into adding more gaps around the line of scrimmage. You have less tells when
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you are in condensed formations because of the splits both in terms of the formation
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and the offensive line. I just think that it just speaks to what how
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they built this roster, and I feel like the identity they're going for in
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twenty twenty four and potentially beyond. Yeah, it's something I think I've kind
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of been waiting for from the Bills for a while. I think back to
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you know, you remember when Dable first got things really going with Josh Allen.
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They're one of the teams that used ten perconnel most in the league.
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You know, it was, you know, a very very different offense.
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And then we were like, okay, well now it's changing. I remember,
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I think it was not last year, but maybe the year before,
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down the stretch they started using regig gillium on some key. I remember being
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like, this is happening. The Bills are doing it. You know,
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Regie, it's happening. And then it didn't really happen. And then last
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year you get your draft dot KKI with your first round draft pick, and
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because of injuries to Dawson Knox, there's they don't really have that time to
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develop that twelve personnel grouping that we all expected. And look, even if
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it is quote eleven and a half, I think maybe Brandon Bean said that
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or someone Dalton Kincaids can still block a corner. Yes, you know,
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so he's willing, he's functionally like, he's not George Kittle. But when
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Dawson Knox is on the field, he doesn't have to be George Kittle.
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He just has to you know, beat up on a guy who's like much
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moreer than him. Yeah, So it's kind of been like stops and starts
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with regards to having a more diverse personnel offense. And to your point,
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I think it is something that we really see in the most successful offenses around
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the NFL, and when we break out personnel groupings now they're really misleading.
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Like you talked about the rams and everything they do out of eleven, so
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that shows up as ninety six percent eleven, but it's not really an eleven
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personnel offense. The Ravens, for example, they use Patrickricard like a tight
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end now, so really it's like a twelve offense that was classified as twenty
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one. But the point is all of these offenses are able to present the
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illusion of complexity, as Sean McVay likes to call it, where everything looks
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the same and not only gives them an advantage in terms of getting the matchups
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that they want getting, you know, a tight end versus a linebacker and
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coverage for example, or running the ball at a corner with that is how
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the defense chooses to play them, but also sequencing plays together in a way
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that I think we just really haven't seen from Buffalo. Because so while I
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do think Dable was great, I actually I do think Dorothy did a good
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job. I'm not I'm more propriercy than others. I think Brady did a
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good job last year. The reality is much of the success of this team
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has not been scheme based. It's because you have an absolute mutant at quarterback.
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So I think my question is can you give can you create a more
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scheme based offense moving forward? And that is what remains to be seen,
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And that's that's such a great segue to the next point they were to talk
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about, And yeah, I've joked a bunch on this show and just in
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different spaces that for years, like the Bill's playbook, like if you opened
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it, it wasn't like actual plays and concepts. It was just like different
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pictures of Josh Allen, like doing athletic or like different things, and that's
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exactly right, or him like reaching back or like and then like a couple
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like candid ones where he's like this and just different aspects, Like they really
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leaned into him being a unicorn and letting him be Josh Allen. And when
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it works, it's awesome. But then when you get to the end of
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the season and come playoff time, especially against you know, lou Ana Arumo
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and Steve Spagnolo and these guys who have everything that you are on tape,
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you're easier to scheme against because you're somewhat more siloed and you're somewhat more isolated.
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And yeah, I look for the schematics to play a heavy role,
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and it's part of the reason why I think there's so much pressure on Joe
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Brady this year, especially because I think what they've surrounded alan w isn't a
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bad grouping, but I think it's more of a you know, like the
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whole is greater than the sum of its parts type and offense, and so
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I think there is that pressure on Brady to schematically figure out a way to
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use everybody. One quick point. I also want to mention too, just
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to go back to that condensed formation aspect, the teams with the lowest formation
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with in twenty twenty three the Niners were the lowest, the Rams were the
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second lest Yeah, we did a chart on this in the playoffs. I
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was pulling them and I was like, Jesus Christ, it's like every team
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left it was nut yea. It was literally Niners, Rams, Dolphins,
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Texans and then Lions were the five lowest. And all teams with good run
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games, good pass attacks, good EPA per playing different metrics that you're looking
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at. That's one of the big ways that I think Dorsey Durham, sorry,
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Joe Brady leans into the schematics, just those big bodied receivers, condensed
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formations, reducing splits so you can you have less tells for defenses, and
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just trying to add gaps every way they can give themselves an advantage. Then
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using that with under center play action. Also expect more motion in different little
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tweaks when you look at Joe Brady, and because some of the conversation,
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I feel like Ken be put onto Allen this year in terms of there's no
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Stefan Diggs. It's really your show. You don't have a true alpha or
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true pass catching target one. Even if you really like what Dalton Kincaid can
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be, he's not there yet. So I do think there's some pressure on
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Alan. But if you're looking at Brady and Alan, who do you think
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has more pressure? Do you think one of them is far supersedes the other.
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Yeah, yes, Josh Allen is figure. I mean, this is
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like not a popular thing to say on national sports television, but he,
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Josh Allen has nothing to prove to me. He's already, like I just
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someone who draradically underestimated him in the draft and obviously wasn't alone in that he
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has exceeded every possible expectation I would have for him as a quarterback. And
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he's also, by the way, like I think there's such a misapprehension of
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his game and it's so mischaracterized, you know, I think I mentioned this
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with Nay, but it's kind of like the Bills offense is now kind of
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entering what Mahomes went through. Right Whether Okay, Tyree Kill's gone with very
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different player from ster Maun Diggs. But the point is you're going to have
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to become much more dependent on the quarterback and the scheme rather than the skill
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players to just win. And Josh Allen has to do that, no doubt.
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But Josh Allen also already went through the thing Patrick Mahomes went through where
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team started playing them with too high and he was like, Okay, I'm
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just going to be an absolute assassin and slice you up underneath and be super
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accurate and decisive and the ball is going to come out quick. I've seen
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Josh Allen win so many of those football games. He is not a boom
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or bust quarterback. Sometimes he makes boneheaded decisions, no doubt, but they're
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usually born of They're not born of like I would say, like him not
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seeing the field correctly. They're just born of him thinking like, yeah,
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I can hit this like, you know, collapsing whole shot falling off of
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my back foot because I'm Josh Allen, which he should not do that sometimes,
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but it's just part of who he is. Joe Brady, on the
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other hand, I think the expectations are much higher because again I'll go back
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to feel like he came in and he replaced a good offensive coordinator who led
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a very successful offense for a few years. And that's not to say that
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the change is bad idea, we'll see. I think it still has something
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that I think it's kind of a TBD for me. But because of that,
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there is more pressure on Joe Brady to evolve the scheme, to maintain
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the level of efficiency, and to do all the things we have been talking
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about in terms of integrating the run in the past and sort of optimizing the
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group of skill players that they do have. Yeah, I'm in lockstep with
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you there. Josh Allen's season last year was so odd. I always describe
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it as kind of like the Yin and the Yang of Josh Allen, and
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it just seemed like last year there was more of the yin, which is
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the bad one. I think we just saw more of that, like him
23:45
going with more of those boneheaded type plays, but also at the same time,
23:51
like he'll do those boneheaded plays a bunch and they work seventy percent of
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the time and then it's like, well, thirty percent they don't. I
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feel like last year was more fifty to fifty or kind of like sixty forty
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with sixty being bad and when it doesn't work, it's terrible. But when
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it does, you look at him and you're like, well, that's why
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he's Josh Allen, and I just I see what they built offensively in terms
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of surrounding the pieces around Allen and it just feels very much like a bet
24:18
on Josh Halm, but also a bet on Joe Brady. And we'll see
24:22
what they do this year and how that affects forty twenty five. And they
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should have some more cap space after the move with digs, but changing the
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offensive line, going with different body types and not going with your traditional you
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know, Allen's best seasons came with Colby's Lee and Stefan Diggs, guys with
24:37
good release packages, Guys who can win at any point in the route,
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at the release and the stem on the break, declarative separators. And now
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they've gone with more bigger bodied frame tight ball winners like a Keyon Coleman,
24:51
like a mc collins MBS has speed, but isn't this guy that's ready to
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route dudes up. He's more of kind of like a power slot, good
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blocker, vertical presence. Leo Shakir can win in a variety of ways,
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and it is the closest thing I think they have to a true separator,
25:04
but that's about one. And then Curtis Samuel is a fun athletic gadget.
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I think more of an auxiliary piece than he is a true even more than
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like he is a true too, And so I think this really is a
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bet on Joe Brady to maximize that value. And also looking into that,
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when you look at this Bill's offense on paper excluding Josh Allen, how good
25:25
do you think this offense is again on paper that's around him? And how
25:29
much do you think is on him to elevate what is around him? You
25:33
know, you mentioned it kind of going in that Mahomesy and trajectory in terms
25:36
of being the trigger man or the talisman for that offense. Distribute, be
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efficient, take what you can when you can with your arm and your legs,
25:44
but really no pun intended quarterback the offense. You know, how good
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are they on paper for you? And how much do you think is on
25:49
Allen to elevate that grouping that he has? You know? Well, like
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I said, I do have them in my top ten still in terms of
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my projections for next year, I think if it was a different quarterback and
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you just slotted you know, a league average quarterback with this group of skill
26:03
players, I would probably put them in the fifteen to twenty five range.
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You know, part because I think the run game, which is while is
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dominant. I do think they really benefit from the presence of Allen, so
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you know, he is definitely going to have to be an elevator. That
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said, I do think that there are players that you can really build something
26:22
interesting around, because you said some of the body types, the skill sets,
26:26
you know, we can worry about. Okay, you know Kean Coleman,
26:30
is he a true exceiver boundary guy or do you want him in the
26:33
slot? You know, I've seen some discussion around that, and I think
26:40
there's actually some flexibility there, especially if they lean more heavily on the twelve
26:44
personnel groupings early on. And I think, especially with what sha Care showed
26:48
you at the end of last season, his ability to stretch the field vertically,
26:51
I think will play a pretty big role in this offense. It should
26:55
play a big role in this offense. But you know, so much depends
27:00
on either Kinkaid taking that second, that next step, or Coleman being productive
27:07
early on. And you know, those are wild cards, undeniably because those
27:11
are very young players and if they hit it really can I don't want to
27:15
put like too much of a silver lining on it or a nice little neat
27:18
and tidy bow because I do think it is a big loss to lose someone
27:22
of Stefan Diggs's caliber, even if he's not necessarily the Stefan Diggs of old.
27:26
I do think that's a big loss, but it's fun in terms of
27:27
what they could potentially be. And it really ties into one of the points
27:32
you mentioned earlier in this episode of You know, the Bills can be in
27:37
twelve personnel from a personnel standpoint, but be running more eleven and ten type
27:41
of formations and going more spread because of how athletic Dawson Knox is and what
27:45
Dalton Kinkaid can be. And then the same thing with your eleven personnel.
27:49
You can be in eleven, but three of your receivers could be you know,
27:52
key On Coleman, Curtis Samuel and MVS or Mac Collins or whatever they
27:56
want to do, or even Collusia here with how he stepped up his game,
28:00
and you can go more condensed, power heavy type looks and formations,
28:03
so that ability, I think, can really put defenses into a bind.
28:07
And then you pair that with Josh Allen with who he is as a passor,
28:10
but being that plus one in the run game than what they have from
28:12
a running back run game standpoint, and the potential is there, I think
28:18
more so going down the road with how key on Coman develops or even Kincaid
28:22
to a degree, But like you said, so much of it is contingent
28:25
upon we really need this guy to hit. We really need that guy to
28:29
hit, and they need to hit in specific ways because if they don't,
28:32
you can't maximize that skill set, and then you're almost kind of like a
28:34
sit and duck. Yeah, you'd like to see some similarities to I think
28:38
what you've seen from the Chiefs over the last couple of years in terms of
28:41
how they use their tight ends, the way they create opportunities for Cravis Kelcey
28:47
against man coverage with their uses of a bunch formations and quad's looks. I
28:52
think that the Bills could do some of that. But then again, some
28:55
of that is really just about Dalton Kinkaid developing as a player. I thought
28:57
you saw last year some of the things I really liked about him as a
29:00
prospect. The hands, especially jump out. There was like a seam ball
29:03
he caught from Alan near the end of the season where I saw him that
29:07
reminded me so much of his college tape and I thought, oh God,
29:08
if we can just see a little bit more of that, I think where
29:11
he can stretch the field vertically, he is very capable of that. But
29:15
something that I think you'd want to see in year two, kind of referring
29:18
to Kelsey, is Okay, what about the chemistry on extended plays, because
29:22
that is, of course what one of Josh Allen's many superpowers. Kelsey's ability
29:26
to find work his way back to mahomes to find those holes in zone coverage,
29:30
that's something I think if you can see that from Kincaid this year,
29:34
that will take this offense to another level. And it's something I do think
29:37
he's capable of, and it's something that Stefan Diggs was tremendous at with Alan
29:41
and for as much maligned as he was amongst Bills fans, Gabe Davis was
29:45
also tremendous at that that off script scramble drill. Diggs and Davis were tremendous
29:49
and it's a huge piece of Allen's game and maximizing what he is with his
29:53
legs and his arm. Mina, I don't want to take up too much
29:56
your time, want to keep you on schedule. This conversation was awesome.
30:00
I hope it was a few as well. Just in case people don't know
30:03
who you are, what should do, anything and everything. The floor is
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30:10
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Featuring Money. It comes out once a week now twice during the football season.
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30:29
to this and you're a Bills fan, which if you're not, that's really
30:32
weird that you're listening to this podcast, go check it out. I think
30:34
you'll like what you hear. It's funny the conversation you alluded to with Orlowsky
30:38
that got your attention. I think I was defending the Bill's defense, actually
30:41
not the offense. I was just taking advantage of you talking Bills, and
30:45
I was like, oh not, and see what happens it. Really I
30:48
got a little bit chippy, I think at someone because I just feel like
30:52
the Bill's defense. Everyone's like, oh, they lost so many players,
30:55
and I was like, yeah, but if we watched the players that they
31:00
lost and what they were kind of doing, recoisition might be the issuere Anyways,
31:06
I'm very excited as always to watch this next iteration of the Bills offense.
31:10
I am a big Josh Allen proponent. If it's not been abundantly clear
31:14
from this conversation, no, you made it clear, and yeah you nailed
31:17
it in the QB draft episode with Nate Tice, which was awesome. I
31:19
mean everything to you is tremendous. Thank you very much for being here.
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