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Chuck and Buck 10-13 Hour 3: MMQB with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike holm Grin and
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millin.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Yes, Chuck Pouw, Buggy, Jacobson, Ashley Ryan with you.
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  Speaker 3: Monday Morning Quarterback always comes away from eight to ten.
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  Speaker 2: Today just eight to nine.
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  Speaker 3: So we are combining the awesome forces of Hugh Millen
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  Speaker 3: and Mike Holmgren together in this eight to nine hour
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  Speaker 3: to talk some Seahawks football here on Chuck and Buck
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Man, Good morning, Good morning, Chucks, Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, we got a win to talk about, and
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  Speaker 3: there's there's some great stuff to discuss from this twenty
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  Speaker 3: to twelve win over the Jacksonville Jaguars. You I'm actually
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  Speaker 3: going to start with you because last week we spent
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  Speaker 3: a lot of time talking about where did Mike McDonald's
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  Speaker 3: pass rush go? And then all of a sudden yesterday
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  Speaker 3: a guy that had been sacked six times all season
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  Speaker 3: long get sacked seven times by this defense. Incredible turnaround
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  Speaker 3: for this Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: D Well, it was really remarkable. And I think that
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't just the pass rush. It was, as Mike
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  Speaker 5: knows better than anybody, it was the pass rush married
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  Speaker 5: to the coverage. The coverage was just so much better.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the first sack was after six point two seconds.
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  Speaker 5: He got one at three point four, three point one,
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  Speaker 5: four point three, three point four. I mean, those that's
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  Speaker 5: plenty of time for the quarterback to get rid of
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  Speaker 5: the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And those are by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Official times that the NFL has on those those counts,
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  Speaker 5: and and and yet it was the it was the
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  Speaker 5: detail like for just for example, uh, I'll just go
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  Speaker 5: through one. The first play of the game, the the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks play a zone coverage where they are they are
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  Speaker 5: rolling to the two receiver side into the boundary that
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars they go play action, but they they they leak
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  Speaker 5: a back out in the flat. Well, They've got DeMarcus Lawrence.
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  Speaker 5: He what's called peals. Mike knows when the end goes
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  Speaker 5: out to cover the end. That allows the corner Josh
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  Speaker 5: Job to sync underneath the sideline route.
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  Speaker 2: And then when you.
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  Speaker 5: See Drake Thomas, he directs the seam route, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Widening, widening, but then he.
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  Speaker 5: Straightens and gets steep, and then Ernest Jones is buzzing
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  Speaker 5: out to that area. So all of the zone areas
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  Speaker 5: are just perfectly covered at exactly the right time and
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  Speaker 5: it forces Lawrence to Trevor Lawrence to escape the pocket.
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  Speaker 5: On that play, it was a three man rush against
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  Speaker 5: seven blockers. And just to give you a idea how
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  Speaker 5: rare that is that that was the first time the
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  Speaker 5: Seahawks all year had a pluck. You call it a
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  Speaker 5: minus seven excuse me, minus four deficit. Again, seven blockers
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  Speaker 5: blocking three rushers and they still get a sack out
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  Speaker 5: of it. It's only happened once with the offense and
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  Speaker 5: one once with the defense. So Micah combined four and
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  Speaker 5: thirty six dropbacks and it's only happened twice all year
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks get a sack out of it. That's just
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  Speaker 5: one out of seven where the pass rush and the
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  Speaker 5: scheme and the details about where the players were all
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  Speaker 5: in sync to create to create those sacks.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, coach, I mean I'm gonna ask kind of a
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  Speaker 6: defense of one of you too. I mean, coming off
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  Speaker 6: of that Buccaneers loss where you know, Baker Mayfield kind
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  Speaker 6: of had his way, both quarterbacks had their way, there
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  Speaker 6: was some questionable tackles or lack thereof h I mean,
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  Speaker 6: did you see a highly motivated defense something that maybe
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  Speaker 6: they had gotten maybe yelled at a little bit. Would
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  Speaker 6: you have been yelling at him a little bit and
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  Speaker 6: did it look like they had responded in that way?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think that's exactly what happened. I think Mike
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  Speaker 4: looked at what had happened against Tampa and he had
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  Speaker 4: to make some corrections and he had to be forceful
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  Speaker 4: with it. And then a couple that with the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he had a lot of really good players sitting
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  Speaker 4: sitting out they couldn't play. Yeah, so the challenge he
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  Speaker 4: challenged you. You know this, He challenged them big time
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  Speaker 4: on defense, and they played. They played that way, and
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  Speaker 4: then later on we can talk about it some more.
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  Speaker 4: But I was little just you know, looking at the
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  Speaker 4: other side of the ball, Trevor Lawrence. There was a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times and you would know this because the
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  Speaker 4: way he studies this stuff on the coverages, and he
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  Speaker 4: mentioned how good the coverages were. He didn't get the
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  Speaker 4: ball off on time a lot. He held the ball
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  Speaker 4: a lot. Now I couldn't see what was happening down
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  Speaker 4: the field, but I put a little bit of that
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  Speaker 4: on him, you know, on the quarterback, and I hadn't
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  Speaker 4: seen him play very much. But the Seahawks clearly we're
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  Speaker 4: doing some great things on defense to prevent him from
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  Speaker 4: throwing the ball on time.
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  Speaker 1: M h.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think that there's also, you know, just in
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  Speaker 5: my notes trying to say, Okay, what are some common
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  Speaker 5: themes from it, Mike. A lot of stunts, right, a
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  Speaker 5: lot of te stunts, And I think they did a
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  Speaker 5: good job of having contain and when you get into
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  Speaker 5: those long yardist situations. They had sacks on three sacks
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  Speaker 5: on third downs, third and eight, third and nine, and
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  Speaker 5: third and eleven. That allows you, uh, on guys to
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  Speaker 5: to Mike knows this obviously, but you can put defensive
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  Speaker 5: end type people in at the defensive tackle. You can
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  Speaker 5: put DeMarcus Lawrence inside and and let him rush. Boy
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  Speaker 5: Mafe was a defensive tackle on a third and long.
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  Speaker 5: And so what you get four defensive end type guys.
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  Speaker 5: Now you have all that twitch. They can run stunts,
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  Speaker 5: they can do their crisscross, their et and te stunts.
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  Speaker 5: And then the inside guy has the contain, but he's
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  Speaker 5: athletic enough to keep the quarterback in the pocket. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that the stunts and and and then mentioning
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  Speaker 5: DeMarcus Lawrence, man, that's as fast as I've seen him play.
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  Speaker 5: He looked like a linebacker. I don't know how he
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  Speaker 5: lost weight or whatever, but I literally looked up his
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  Speaker 5: Wikipedia page to say, is this dude from Jacksonville? Like,
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  Speaker 5: was he playing from in front of a bunch of family?
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  Speaker 5: He was saying, playing so quick? So Mike Holmgrin just
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  Speaker 5: told you, uh, the head coach challenged him, And there's
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  Speaker 5: evidence all of the tape of those guys just playing
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  Speaker 5: at another level emotionally, Yeah, it might.
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  Speaker 3: Have required coach a little bit of triggeration, like different looks.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Mike McDonald accepted as a challenge. But you lose
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  Speaker 3: that much talent in your defensive secondary and yet you
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  Speaker 3: come up with a scheme that is confusing a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: that was having a pretty good year until yesterday. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that ever happened in your time
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  Speaker 3: where you lost three receivers and you're like, wait till
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  Speaker 3: you see what I come up with this week.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think you give him a lot of credit
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  Speaker 4: for that, because that is a tough thing to do.
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  Speaker 4: And normally speaking, you don't win the game by how
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  Speaker 4: they won it. You win it some other way. Because Lawrence,
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  Speaker 4: you know, now I haven't seen again, I haven't seen
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  Speaker 4: him play a lot, but he looked he looked confused
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  Speaker 4: at times, he looked like he was holding the ball
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  Speaker 4: too long in my opinion, But going to you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean to give this Seawks credit, their young guys
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  Speaker 4: credit who had to play, and give Mike McDonald credit
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  Speaker 4: for getting them ready, because I think that's exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 5: Mike I think if you watched the coaches tape with me,
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  Speaker 5: I think we would have a lot of common ground
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  Speaker 5: on this essentially all common ground. I think we would
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  Speaker 5: come away when we say, hey, we got to tell
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  Speaker 5: our KGr listeners that they were just that good in coverage.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, they did play, they were doing a lot.
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  Speaker 5: There was it was like an Applebee's menu or a
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  Speaker 5: Chile's menu, you know, like there's eleven pages.
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  Speaker 2: There was a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot of stuff. If I'm CJ. Stroud and I'm preparing
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  Speaker 5: for the next game, and I watched the game, I'm saying, well,
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  Speaker 5: this is gonna be a long week because I got
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  Speaker 5: to do a lot of processing about what these guys do,
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  Speaker 5: meaning the Seahawks, And they played a lot of different coverages.
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  Speaker 5: They played zone on half the field, man on another.
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  Speaker 5: They were robbing down in zones, disguising coverages, and they
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  Speaker 5: were just a lot better at like all the mistakes
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  Speaker 5: that they made a week ago. They were just air tight.
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  Speaker 5: And so I I think if you were grading Lawrence
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  Speaker 5: with me, uh and and and I was working under
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  Speaker 5: you on the staff, and you were you were as
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  Speaker 5: head coach or you were offensive coordinator, and I was
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  Speaker 5: under you, as a as the quarterback coach. I think
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  Speaker 5: I think my report would be what your report would be,
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  Speaker 5: is like, there wasn't a lot there for him, and
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  Speaker 5: and you credit Seattle on it, and so you know
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  Speaker 5: that's that was kind of my Was there opportunity, sir,
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  Speaker 5: There's always opportunities, but I just thought that there was
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  Speaker 5: a lot thrown at him from a scheme standpoint. They
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  Speaker 5: protected those those the the young guys, you know, and
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  Speaker 5: and Shack. You know, Griff Griffin is not a young guy,
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  Speaker 5: but he moved. He's an old guy and he moves
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  Speaker 5: like an old guy, so they did things to protect him.
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  Speaker 5: I thought it was just a wonderful. It's one of
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  Speaker 5: the reasons why I just absolutely have the highest respect
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  Speaker 5: for Mike McDonalds as a defensive coach. He has an
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  Speaker 5: image of how it's got to be played and he
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  Speaker 5: teaches it and yesterday was an example.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I'll go back to Hugh on one,
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  Speaker 6: just simply kind of around all of the homework that
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  Speaker 6: you did.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you did it on the other side too.
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  Speaker 6: Coming into this, a lot of talk about the Jags
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  Speaker 6: and the fact that you know there were four and
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  Speaker 6: one and how physical and how good their defense and
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  Speaker 6: their secondary in particular it was. And yet Sam Donald
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  Speaker 6: went out there for a second week in a row
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  Speaker 6: and looked really good against a team that apparently had
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  Speaker 6: been really good at taking the ball away and making
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  Speaker 6: a tight windows. So was there something you saw on
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  Speaker 6: that side that was good and Sam Donald was just
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  Speaker 6: better or was it that a little bit over overblown.
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  Speaker 5: I think Sam Donald is playing at a very elite
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  Speaker 5: level in multiple ways. I think that there was some
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  Speaker 5: some new wrinkles there's there was there was a shake
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  Speaker 5: route for example we haven't seen, which is Mike knows
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  Speaker 5: is a post corner, and you see JSN has this
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  Speaker 5: beautiful low center of gravity and he's just he's wonderful
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  Speaker 5: at that they got a twenty yarder and an eighteen
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  Speaker 5: yard or the post route for the touchdown that he
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  Speaker 5: walks out there. I love Marshall Eth where former teammates
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  Speaker 5: we talk. He calls me sometimes to talk coverage to
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  Speaker 5: get he he misdiagnosed that on the on the cover.
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  Speaker 5: He was blaming it on on the safety. The corner's
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  Speaker 5: got to have that ball. It's a new it was
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  Speaker 5: a new corner just came in the game. And you
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  Speaker 5: go play action for Sam Darnold turns us back on
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  Speaker 5: the defense. That's a cover four defense, four deep across.
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  Speaker 5: You got to know where those look turn and locate
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  Speaker 5: and off one hitch. He just walks it out there.
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  Speaker 5: The touchdown pass uh to Cooper Cup coach Homgren. My god,
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  Speaker 5: the anticipation. It's a cover zero and by the way,
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  Speaker 5: I just have to get this out aj Barner on
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  Speaker 5: that play, it's a cover zero with a He has
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  Speaker 5: to block Josh heinz Allen, their number one guy. Josh
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  Speaker 5: Allen's Josh heinz Allen. You probably don't know the name
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  Speaker 5: unless you're really He's their defensive end. He's the second
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  Speaker 5: highest cap number on the Jaguars, next to Trevor Lawrence
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  Speaker 5: at fifteen to four point four million. He's got more
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  Speaker 5: than the Seahawks Number one is fifteen million. Even at
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  Speaker 5: Leonard Williams, he's higher than the Seahawks highest guy. So
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  Speaker 5: whatever you think of Leonard Williams, that's what the Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: think of heinz Allen. You got to have the tight
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  Speaker 5: end blocking, but the anticipation with with Sam Darnold throwing
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  Speaker 5: from a well and throwing it out the perfect ball
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  Speaker 5: placement on that touchdown to cup and then and then
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  Speaker 5: So those are some of the throws. But even I'll
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  Speaker 5: close with this and let Mike Homgren respond. The thirty
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  Speaker 5: third team asked me to present Tannembaum asked me to
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  Speaker 5: present on sacks. And you know, when you're presenting to
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  Speaker 5: Bill holding In and all and all these multiple former
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  Speaker 5: head coaches, you better be air tight. And one of
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  Speaker 5: the things that I pointed out on that is two years,
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  Speaker 5: at the last two years that Tom Brady played, he
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  Speaker 5: had the lowest sack rate in the NFL, and in
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  Speaker 5: each of those two years, Justin Fields had the highest.
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  Speaker 5: And one of the things about Brady is he'll have
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  Speaker 5: a concept to his left or his right, a three
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  Speaker 5: man concept, but if any if anybody flashes in his
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  Speaker 5: vision where there's pressure, he doesn't have the impulse to
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  Speaker 5: run or move at all. He just knows exactly where
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  Speaker 5: his checkdown was. And yesterday there was a play mic
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  Speaker 5: where Sam Darnold was looking off to his left. He
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  Speaker 5: had he was trying to work the concept that wasn't
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  Speaker 5: come and open. Somebody flashes in front. He immediately like
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  Speaker 5: like just like a little dart thrower in a bar.
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  Speaker 5: He knows exactly he's got. I got Sharbonnay in the
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  Speaker 5: B gap on my on the opposite side, and and
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  Speaker 5: he didn't even look. He knew he was there and
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  Speaker 5: and had he had any hesitation, that's a sack. But
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  Speaker 5: he knew exactly where his outlet was. And I even
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  Speaker 5: I literally put on my notes that was Tom Brady
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  Speaker 5: esque in terms of finding his checkdown. So he's doing
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  Speaker 5: it all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that's what that's what happens. And I
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  Speaker 4: I'd like Sam from the beginning, and I think he's
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  Speaker 4: having a great years off to a great start, and
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  Speaker 4: he's very you know, for your for the team to
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  Speaker 4: do what we hope they do, he has to play well.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I go back to when we had
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  Speaker 4: Steve young uh and Steve in the beginning. He's such
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  Speaker 4: a good runner that he I've talked about this before.
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  Speaker 4: He would answer pressure like that with running before he
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  Speaker 4: dropped the ball off. And I think that's comes with experience,
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  Speaker 4: it comes with having success doing it. But Brady, you know,
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  Speaker 4: was the best at it. And you know, as a quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: you have to understand that that's how you have to
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  Speaker 4: play the game. You know, the great runners and the
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  Speaker 4: guys we see now, you know, Lamar Jackson, all these guys,
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  Speaker 4: they're great runners. But but the one you get stuck
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  Speaker 4: and you have to be able to dump the ball
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  Speaker 4: off and get rid of it.
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  Speaker 3: Coach, you can only have one that's a game Softy
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  Speaker 3: likes to play. You can either have Sam Darnold's bomb
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  Speaker 3: touchdown to JSN or his touchdown pass to Cooper Cup.
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  Speaker 2: Which one was more beautiful?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think the Cooper Cup was really really tight.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the long ball, and you know, is this
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  Speaker 4: better than anybody? The long ball you kind of see
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  Speaker 4: the guy and you practice that a lot forty yards
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  Speaker 4: down the field. Boom, good, good trajectory, okay, and that
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  Speaker 4: throws a little bit easier. I think even though it's longer.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that one to Cooper Cup was brilliant. It
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  Speaker 4: was beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: What about you, Hugh, I'll go with him.
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  Speaker 5: I think the degree of difficulty, if you just say
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  Speaker 5: how many guys can complete those balls? I think they're both,
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  Speaker 5: you know, difficult throws. But I think that the degree
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  Speaker 5: of precision quarterbacking on the Cup throw, when considered Charles
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  Speaker 5: Cross was in his lap. A. J. Barnard was doing
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  Speaker 5: a hell of a job. I do commend him, but
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  Speaker 5: he was kind of in his lap. But the if
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  Speaker 5: you just if you just pause the tape as I did,
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  Speaker 5: when his hands break, meaning when his hands separate and
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  Speaker 5: his that's an indicator that his brain says, Okay, green
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  Speaker 5: light go, I'm throwing. I know the spot. Well, that's
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  Speaker 5: where Cup was has his back numbers to you. He's
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  Speaker 5: still running up the field. So Donald has to calculate, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: now he's gonna break to the side and he's tightly covered.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta put it.
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  Speaker 5: And then when you watch the end zone copy mic,
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  Speaker 5: it was like he hit the target the size of a.
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  Speaker 2: Coffee mug, like like like Cooper Cup.
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  Speaker 5: If you said, Coop, show me exactly where you want
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  Speaker 5: the ball, like like down to the inch, he'd say, well, ideal,
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  Speaker 5: I'd want it right here, and he would freeze his
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  Speaker 5: hand right there. Well, of course he's moving full speed
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  Speaker 5: and that's exactly where Donald did it.
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  Speaker 3: Well impressive, Sam Darnold. Another great night Seahawks went at
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  Speaker 3: twenty to twelve. We got a lot more ground to cover.
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  Speaker 3: We got to talk about JSN. Certainly, we got to
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  Speaker 3: go back to the defense. I can't wait to see
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's Cheesecake Factory game plan that.
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  Speaker 2: He's got scheduled for somebody down the line.
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  Speaker 3: You want to talk about complicated, You want to talk
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  Speaker 3: about pages and pages and pages. Wait till he Wait
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  Speaker 3: till he hits the forty nine ers later this year.
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  Speaker 2: With his Cheesecake Factory defensive game plan.
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  Speaker 3: So we got a lot more to do here on
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: this one hour episode of Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Millen and Mike Holmgren Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 17:26
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• 17:30
  Speaker 5: As Donald sutch to throw and folding one down the middle,
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: that's checkbo touchdown.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Seahawks Chris Myers on the call yesterday, Jackson.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: The way he said it, Yeah, maybe that's really hard.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Has another big game, and everybody that calls one of
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: his games for the first time, I think ends up
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: being surprised at.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: How good he is.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: He was targeted thirteen out of twenty four targets yesterday,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: which we've complained about a little bit in the past
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: that maybe Sam's not spread the ball around the field enough.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: But man, when you're making plays like that, eight catches,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two yards in a touchdown for
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: JSN yesterday and a twenty to twelve win over the
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. It's Monday Morning Quarterback with Hugh Millon Mike
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Holmgren joining us coach. I'll start with you this segment.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, you coached the greatest wide receiver of all time,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: and there is no dispute at who that is is
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Jerry Rai. So we're certainly not going to compare him
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to number eighty. But how good is JSN becoming right
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: before our eyes?
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: You know, he is really good, you know, and he's
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you know, that's not totally surprising, I don't think. But
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I always look at his size just a little bit.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: You know, he's not the biggest guy in the world.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: But how he catches the ball, how fluid he is,
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: how he puts it away, how he's open, He understands
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: the game, he understands where he go and young and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: so you put all that stuff together and you say,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I've got something really special here for a long time.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Hugh about his relationship with Sam Darnold. I don't know,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: maybe he's.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Targeting him too much, but man, it would be just
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: so irresistible to look Eleven's way every.
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: Single snap for goodness sake. Yeah, I think that they're
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: making a mistake. I think they need to get Hortony
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: and involved more and Cup more. And I think Elija Royo.
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: I think that at some point they're going to face
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: somebody's going to travel a really stud receiver on him,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: you know, just roll on him every time. Don't allow
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: him that free access. And I think that they just
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: be a better offense if they did that. But for
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Jsn's part, I look, look, he has all the attributes
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: other than the size and the elite top end speed,
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: but when you see him in person, he's really low cut.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: He's got relative for his six', one you, KNOW i
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: would say mid. Size he's not a really bitty, guy
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: but he's got short leg and his center of. Gravity
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: uh it it allows him to be so quick in
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: and out of those brakes and And mike that That
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: i'm describing the shake route uh against cover. Three the corners, guys,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: Uh chuck And. Buck the corners are are essentially in
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: man and man on a vertical route in that particular.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Zone so when WHEN jsn comes up on these guys
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: and he breaks to the, post they have to turn
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: their hips and mirror him to the.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Post but he is.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: So freaking quick at dropping his weight and benbam like
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: a sewing machine his feeder and then he accelerates the.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Sideline then he has elite ball, skills, uh you, Know
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: and and and the slant. Route there's a slant route
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: that he had against what they. Tried they rolled the
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: cover and the, said all, right we're gonna double cover
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: him on this. One we're gonna go. Zone it's To
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Sam donald's. Left there's what's called cloud the corners in the,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: flat the safety's over the. Top All Sam donald has
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: to do is hold the next inside, linebacker the inside
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: linebacker with his eyes and then hit that window between
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: the corner and the. Linebacker So darnold holds him with
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: his eyes and boom and then the perfect ball. Placement But,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: jaysn you, know.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: He knows he.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Can you just trust him that he.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Can he.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Can whatever the ball, placement he can go get it
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: because he has such elite tracking in. Hands so there's
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: so many skills that they're exploiting with this.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: Guy, Uh i'm gonna. Coach is there a part of
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: you where they're going to HIM a ton right. Now
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: and then yesterday you saw as the game went on
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: then there was a couple of strikes there To Cooper.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: CUP i mean when you were doing this with you,
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: know whether It's Jerry, rice whoever was, there teamed with,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: him the opposite guy of, him where you're, Like, OKAY
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: i see this coming where MAYBE i don't want it
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: to be a mistake Like hugh was talking, about and
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: So i'm gonna have to kind of set this up
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: WHERE i go TO jsn and then start Telling sam
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: to look to another guy because they're gonna try to
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: take him.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Away you know WHAT i. DON'T i don't think So.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: BUCK i think. THAT i think when you go in
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and you have preparation for the get the quarterback ready to,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: play you, know you call the. Play this is the.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Play he knows where everyone's going to, be and then
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: he after he takes a snap from center and the
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: secondary does what they do that sets up your progression
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: and where you're going to go and why you're going to.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Go you might call a play things on my, list you,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: know For Sterling, sharp For Jerry, rice or For Robert
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: brooks whoever, was and Then i'd call that play thinking
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: that's WHO i want to get the ball, too because
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: this is WHAT i think the coverage is going to.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Be but then they don't run that, coverage SO i
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: expect the quarterback to make the adjustment and throw it someplace.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Else you're what's kind of cool about this is that
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: going into the, game they know that this is the.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Guy the other team, Knows, okay this is the. Guy
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: we got to do something about. It and clearly yesterday
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: they could they could, not and so you got to, Say,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: okay they got something special. Going BUT i don't think
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: you're going with the. Idea, Okay i'm calling this play
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: throw it to. Him you, know you might say because
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: of the play that you, know, yeah that's Where i'd
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: like you to throw, it but let's get it to
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: the open. Guy.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Mike there was a play that where it struck me, like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: LOOK i love the connection they, Have like who would?
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: Complain i'm just kind of like, Thinking, okay what is
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: this strategy that maximize your absolute offensive? Potential and when
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: they threw the tunnel screen out there do TO jsn
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: with the lineman leading, ahead, guys that was one WHERE
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: i thought you could you could throw that To Tory,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: horton so that he's involved and they know that fifteen
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: is might get the ball thrown to. Him And Tory
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: horton's a punt, returner so you, know he has an
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: ability to make things happen in. Space so so that
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: was a time WHERE i, thought, eh that they just
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: gotta they gotta throw a crumb to that, guy not
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: just for the sake of him and keeping him, involved
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: but for the defense to know that the ball is
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: gonna go somewhere else other than.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Eleven.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: No, ABSOLUTELY i, mean you, know and you prepare that,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: way Saying, okay they're gonna, cover they're gonna, double or
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: they're gonna do something for just AND i can get
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: hold of the ball, HERE i can really take care
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: of advantage of that and do it that. Way you
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: actually get him, involved AND i think he'll make a
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: very good. Point AND i think as they go down the,
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: ROAD i think that you're gonna see more of.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: That, YEAH i was gonna ask you this coach for
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the end of the. HOUR i think maybe in our
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: last two minutes of this, segment it's a good time
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: to kind of slip it in right. HERE i, thought
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Once mike McDonald had thirteen players out on the. Field
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: he should have just sent six more out. There just
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: go set a, record just get. Called if you're gonna get,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: thirteen you might as well have nineteen on the.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Field that's WHAT i. THOUGHT i don't know.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: About, you, well you, know, yeah well you know that
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: if that had, HAPPENED i don't THINK i could found
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: the special team teams coach on the. Sideline he was
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: not going to be anywhere near.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Thirteen do you ever have thirteen on the?
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Field, no that was. Unusual did you ever.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Win a game going one for twelve on third? Down?
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: No that was another. Thing AND i, think you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: what they're playing a lot of close games and not
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: scoring a lot of points in games thatt for last
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: week and they got. Beat, no that was and that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: what they have to work on on defound offense.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Clearly, yeah it's crazy here that you Know sam could
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: play that well and then you look at the stats
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: at the end of the. Game one for twelve on third.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Down that is almost an automatic loss If i'm just
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: reading the.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Statue, yeah, Indeed but you know, WHAT i think they
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: compensated obviously getting big plays early. On we talked about
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: that's primarily going to come from play play. Action first
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: game against the forty nine, ers one attempt for twenty one,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: yards and yesterday eight attempts one hundred and eighty three
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: yards on our one hundred and thirty five passer. Rating
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: so so they're getting the what the big plays early
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: on and then and finally on that they're getting to twelve.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: Personnel these are the number of yards passing. To that's
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: one running back and two tight. Ends and this is
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: gonna read sequence or like like it's as, sending but
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: this is actually the. Sequence game number, one this is twelve.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Personnel yard is Production mike four, yards then sixty, three
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: then ninety, one then one oh, three then one eighty,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: seven and yesterday two hundred and fourteen each game more
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: than the. Previous and and now that that play action
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: plus the two tight, ends just two receivers getting those
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: big plays in the early downs off sets going one
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: for twelve and.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Third now.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: All, right, YEAH i mean, yeah go, ahead comb, sorry go,
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: ahead chuck all, Right.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Coach homer And Hugh millen with us here on the
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: chucking back in the. Mornings we do have one more.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Segment we're just doing one more. Segment one hour, today
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: a lot Of American League Championship, series the discussion to have,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: today which we'll start again at nine, o'clock but certainly
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: a great evaluation here of The seahawks twenty twelve win
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: over The Jacksonville. Jaguars we have one more segment more
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: to talk about on the defensive side of the.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Ball Next Sports radio ninety three point three kJ.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Rfm go back to process there all the, time AND
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: i think we nailed our process this. Week AND i
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: think you know what the challenge is going to keep.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Rolling but folks on.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Our stylid ball and staying composed and, together picking each other, up, play,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: play all that type of.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: STUFF i know it sounds sounds.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Cliche their butt don't really care because that's that's how we.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Roll it was impressive seven sacks yesterday for The seahawks,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: defense confusing The jaguars Quarterback Trevor lawrence with a lot
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: of different, looks and a secondary which was pretty much
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: the second stream secondary With Kobe.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Bryant impressive win for The.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Hawks they are three to oher on the, road four
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: and two, overall tied for first place in THE. Nfc
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: was last after yesterday's twenty twelve win over The Jacksonville.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Jaguars we Are Monday morning quarterbacking this morning for only
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: an hour today With Mike holmgren And Hugh millan as,
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: well and this is our final segment together this.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Week, Anyway hugh.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Defensively mike McDonald found his bag of tricks again this,
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: week and we've already talked about how impressive it was
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: as a, unit but, individually you Highlighted DeMarcus lawrence. Earlier
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Did Byron murphy have his best game as The seahawk
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: felt to me that? Way and if not, him who
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: else stepped up for you on the defensive?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Side?
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: YEAH i think his energy was. GOOD i think. THAT
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: i think he was the beneficiary of some scheme. STUFF
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: i mean he got a sack with six point two
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: seconds after the ball was. Snapped there was another The
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: jacksonville was trying to do what it's called power, pass
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: where it's a play, action but you're pulling a guard
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: and so when that guard vacates the area the center
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: has to block, out there's more space for the defensive
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: tackle to, work and so you Saw Biern murphy benefit from.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: That there was another time where it was his. Job
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: as he's lined up over the, guard he goes and
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: he slams the tackle and then and on a stunt
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: and then the defensive end is gonna loop. Around well the.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Tackle now he's got outside leverage and it was very
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: easy For Bier murphy to get. In SO i think
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: that's a scheme related. THING i think That Drake thomas
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: had a play on a sack where he Took Walker,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: little the left tackle Of, jacksonville who is listed coming
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: in the six seven and three eights and three twenty.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Five Drake thomas absolutely threw him like a straw man
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: at a pumpkin, patch and LIKE i was just stunned
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: of what he. Did and and and then the last
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: Guy i'll mention Is nick emn worry that dude has
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: got like he's. Got he's a long, legged, big good
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: looking athlete who can really accelerate and so and you
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: see that he's just learning the, game but he can
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: be a little bit out of position and then he, goes, oh, Shoot,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Mike i'm a little out of. Position he can get
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: back into the right position really. Fast so it's it's
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: fun to watch him on tape because of that beautiful
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: athleticism but those are some of the guys THAT i,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: think in short and in the short time we have
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: that are worth mentioning from my end.
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: Coach i'm gonna ask about Aj. BARNER i, mean he's
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: starting to put up some decent. Numbers still not heavily,
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: used and yet he seems to be a kind of
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: a security, blanket if you, will like a lot of
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks like to use their tight. End are you seeing
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: anything that you're really enjoying about?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Him and how is his?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Growth, well you, Know, buck you AND i have talked
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: about this before.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Too.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: WELL i like. Him HE'S i think he's a really
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: good tight. End he's a good pass. Receiver and to
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: use point that he mentioned, earlier the idea of getting
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: the tight end more involved getting him some more. TOUCHES
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: i think it's a good, thing that's a healthy thing
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: for your passing. Offense and he can do. IT i,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: MEAN i think he's shown he's a big, guy he's,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: tough he can. Block you, know he's a good pass.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: RECEIVER i like tight, ends AND i think tight ends
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: are an important part of your. Offense AND i THINK
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: i hope they've used him more because he has shown
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: he can do.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It, YEAH i think he can do it short and
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: then sixty one yard catch, Yesterday.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: HUGH i mean there's a lot of versatility to, this. Dude,
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah i'd love to Get mike's take on. THIS i
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: was texting with my, friends Like seahawks have gone into
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: a conservative mode too early in the fourth. Quarter they're
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: only up by a, touchdown and there you're running on first,
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: down running on second, down trying to you, know Let
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: darnold bail him out on third and, long and as,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: like we got to throw this. Thing and Then, mike
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: what a beautifully designed play where they faked the bootleg
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: and guys With jacksonville all all piled up in the
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: in the front and playing essentially a covered zero behind
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: it with no safety. Help that means that the Safety
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Andrew winguard is going to be one on one with
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: uh With, barner and what the safety sees is the
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: play action Like Sam darnold's gonna run a naked bootleg
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: out to his left and and that is coupling With
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: barner's Going adham inside and then breaking out like he's
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: gonna run to the corner and then going back across
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: almost like an s route to to use a very
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: common uh, uh you, know just a visual, There. Mike
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: what a call beautiful against that, coverage extremely well. Executed
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: it was the aggression THAT i thought that they should
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: have had half a quarter, earlier just to you, know
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: and it sealed the. Game and and and just what a.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Play of Course, barner you, know did some run after the.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Catch what a cool time for him to.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Emerge now that's WHY i put on my notes on that.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: PLAY i, said great, call because the you, know you
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: get into that situation and then you are thinking about
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: the clock and you are, saying, okay if i'd run
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: a three, DIRECT i can get it down to a certain.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Level we have fuel, position we can stop. Them but
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: then to come out with a play pass on that
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: first that was really. Something AND i APPLAUD Clt Clint
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: kubiak for. That that was a great.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Call AND i Have Jeene sterotur tell me every week
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: that there aren't officials that love throwing, Flags but.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah you know, what give, them give them a
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: plus for throwing. Flags their arms must be. Sore Holy.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Toledo kathy came in the. ROOM i, Go i'm getting
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: really mad at the officials. Here i'm getting very.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Upset it Was Clay. Martin screw.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: AGAIN i bring them up at seventeen penalties twenty two.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yards those are the ones that were. Enforced, oh by the,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Way But gene tells, me he insists coach that they
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: there aren't crews that love throwing. Flags they just throw
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: what's what they.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: See and you know, What i've always Liked jeans talked To,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: JEAN i, Have we've had good. Conversations but THEN i would, Say,
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: jeane be, quiet be. Quiet you know this makes no.
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  Speaker 4: Sense AND i know What i'm. Seeing you, KNOW i said,
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  Speaker 4: YESTERDAY i don't know the guy's, name BUT i, GO
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: i recognize this. Guy he's doing it.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Again thank, you thank. You It's Clay. Martin you'll never
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: forget his, name, Now, OKAY i got. It, well nice.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: WIN i, mean there was a chance here that that
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: team's coming back three and three.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: If they don't beat a four and One jacksonville team
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: on the.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: Road but and they don't look like a three and
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: three team to me at, all The, seahawks and so nice.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Win and they've turned into Road titans Under mike, McDonald
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: which is. Crazy but this was big going. Forward, well
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: you mentioned the road part of. IT i do think
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that there's a schematic. Part you just watch how they
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: communicate on. Defense obviously that's easier on the. ROAD i
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: think there's something actually tangible. There, well we can explore that,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: later but you, KNOW i think there was two times
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  Speaker 3: Under mike McDonald in his young career the seat coach
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Where i've just been. Disheartened and one was last year
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: after The buffalo game The bills won thirty one to.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: Ten they had a four and forty five total, yards
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: twenty nine first, downs one hundred and sixty four on the.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: GROUND i, Mean seattle couldn't do. Anything i'm, like this
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: is not. Working and then they fixed. It and then
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: this preseason you can say why, preseason well this is
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: important to. Me first, game two hundred and thirty two
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: air yards on. COMPLETIONS i, Said mike McDonald's not gonna like.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: THAT i don't care if it's a four, string if
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: they have a seahawk. Helmet he's they go from two
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: hundred thirty two yards to fifty teen against The chiefs
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: fifteen are yards and and and that's because he Teaches
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: mike Is Mike homemgrin has always, said you're a. Teacher,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: First mike was a teacher and his ability to teach
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: and so HAD i had some confidence after That Tampa
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  Speaker 5: bay that he would find a way to do this
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: and everything THAT i thought he would, do he did.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: It mike and his grasp of being able to change things,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: up teach, guys get them to improve in one. Week
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: we've seen it now multiple times in multiple, ways and
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: it was it was really something to.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: See, YEAH i, know no question about, it AND i
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: feel the same. Way and then he did it with
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: guys who are not his. Starters they were guys who
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: have not got a lot of practice. TIME i don't
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: think over the course at the beginning of the. Season
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: yet he did it with those, guys and that's that
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: adds another level of impression to.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Me thank you. Man awesome.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Stuff we'll get back to doing Normal monday morning quarterback
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: in the, future but that was a hour packed hour right.
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  Speaker 2: There appreciate you. Both good to be with. You thank.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: You chuck and The. Murders they're doing pretty.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Good doing pretty, Good, coach doing pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Good bet you a couple more, wins And kathy won't
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: be fighting you to watch.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Baseball she'll actually be leading The. Charter, yeah, NO.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I, KNOW i know she's you, KNOW i got to
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: deal with. It fifty four Years i'm still dealing with.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: It Mike, Almgrin Hugh, Millan, minday morning quarterback right here
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: On chuck And. Buck in the, morning we'll get into
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: some More mariners. Baseball on the other, Side Ryan heay
• 37:31
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