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Jesus, Secret Societies, and the Kabbalah | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: My name is Jerm.
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Speaker 2: This is Jerm Warfare. The Battle of Ideas. Oliver Janik,
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Speaker 2: thank you for joining me in the trenches.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. Congratulations to your second child.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It's been chaotic here at my
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Speaker 2: house the last few days, but we now have two boys.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. I also have two boys, so it
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Speaker 3: will get more chaotic even.
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Speaker 2: That is great. I like to be part of the
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Speaker 2: all-boys club.
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Speaker 3: Yes, me too.
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Speaker 2: Could you give me a little bit about you, your background?
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Speaker 3: Well, I started out as a mainstream journalist, and I was,
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Speaker 3: I think, the first journalist in the world that wrote
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Speaker 3: in a mainstream magazine, Focus Money, that 9-11 was an
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Speaker 3: inside job. It was a mainstream magazine in Germany, but
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Speaker 3: then I had to quit there, or I was thrown out,
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Speaker 3: however you say it, but I had a freelancer contract,
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Speaker 3: and from that on, I went much more, much deeper
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Speaker 3: into the topic they now claim are conspiracy theories. But
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Speaker 3: I started when I already was in mainstream, I started
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Speaker 3: to notice things and that almost all you read in
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Speaker 3: the mainstream is wrong. But most of the journalists don't
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Speaker 3: even know that. So when I wrote this 9-11 article,
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Speaker 3: for example, all the other journalists were against me. Only
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Speaker 3: the editor-in-chief was on my side. So it's not always
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Speaker 3: coming from the top, the censorship. It also comes from
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Speaker 3: your colleague, because I don't know, they don't do their jobs.
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Speaker 3: I mean, everything I write, I have quotes for it
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Speaker 3: and sources. My recent book has 2,200 footnotes, so you
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Speaker 3: can just go in there. I mean, sometimes it's a
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Speaker 3: matter of interpretation. We will see that in that video.
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Speaker 3: But I'm very much committed to the scientific method. I
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Speaker 3: also learned that in university, I had the only course
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Speaker 3: in empiric science while doing my kind of MBA. That
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Speaker 3: was the only university which also taught empirical science. One
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Speaker 3: of the main guys I followed was Karl Popper. He
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Speaker 3: more or less invented science new. Because he says you
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Speaker 3: can never prove a theory, but you can falsify theories.
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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm doing with everything. Political events, murders,
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Speaker 3: and so on. I say, okay, can we falsify the
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Speaker 3: official theory? And from there, I decide to go, how
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Speaker 3: did they do it? Possibly, which is harder to prove.
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Speaker 3: But the first step is always, how can you disprove
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Speaker 3: the official theory? Which is very easy in terms of 9-11.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure you talked about that also a lot.
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Speaker 3: It's just, World Trade Center 7 already falsifies the official theory.
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Speaker 3: And then you can go from there, what really happened.
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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm doing with every topic. And just recently,
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Speaker 3: I thought I have to write a book about the
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Speaker 3: Bible because of another book who was given to me
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Speaker 3: by the most prominent, how's it called, news anchor in Germany.
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Speaker 3: She got out of the system, Eva Herrmann, but she's
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Speaker 3: the most prominent person in Germany 99% recognition rate. And
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Speaker 3: she sent me a book about another interpretation of the Bible.
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Speaker 3: And I just wanted to confirm that this guy is right.
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Speaker 3: Abdur-Rashid is his name in the light of truth. But
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Speaker 3: I was able to do that. But then I found
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Speaker 3: so much more. I said, okay, I have to write
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Speaker 3: it all down. The official story, what the churches tell us,
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Speaker 3: the mainstream media and the universities are provably wrong. And,
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Speaker 3: you know, and we will talk about that. That's my
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Speaker 3: main thing. Just... proving things wrong.
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Speaker 2: That should be the way in which science is conducted
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Speaker 2: if you look at the way science these days and
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Speaker 2: i say science in inverted commas it seems to be
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Speaker 2: very dogmatic.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely i mean what we see today has nothing to
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Speaker 3: do with science really nothing i mean there was even
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Speaker 3: a study i think that over 50 percent of all
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Speaker 3: science papers um don't really, if they are peer-reviewed, do
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Speaker 3: not confirm what they say. And of course, there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of interests in science, for example, in climate science,
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Speaker 3: which is not science at all. There are a lot
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Speaker 3: of people profiting from that system. It's ridiculous. We could
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Speaker 3: talk one hour about that, but I'm sure you had
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Speaker 3: that topic already. So they have a vested interest, and
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Speaker 3: especially in Germany, but also in other countries, it's the
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Speaker 3: government who pays the scientists. There's this one problem, so
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Speaker 3: they have an ideology, or it's the big corporations who
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Speaker 3: want to sell their products, like the pharma products. It
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Speaker 3: has nothing to do with science, but the good thing
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Speaker 3: is you can look into the papers, and many of
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Speaker 3: them more or less admit that this is only an estimation.
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Speaker 3: So if you look deeper into it, you see that,
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Speaker 3: but in the mainstream media, they make a headline out
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Speaker 3: of it, and that's not really what the science says.
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Speaker 3: So it's complicated, but it's... it's not so difficult to
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Speaker 3: disprove things they claim, but they just have the interest
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Speaker 3: to push a narrative. And the narrative is more or
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Speaker 3: less always the same. We have to obey.
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Speaker 2: Well, the easy one to disprove, in actual fact, saying
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Speaker 2: prove or disprove is not really scientific. That's used, I think,
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Speaker 2: in mathematics and logic. In science, you talk about evidence.
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Speaker 2: not proof, because a proof is absolute and science doesn't
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Speaker 2: work in absolutes.
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Speaker 3: Right. They have hypotheses and the right term is falsifying something.
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Speaker 3: So if a scientist puts the paper out, the other
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Speaker 3: scientists go and try to falsify it. It did not
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Speaker 3: happen yet with my paper. I recently published a paper
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Speaker 3: that's currently under the top 0.5% of papers on academia.
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Speaker 3: Nobody yet has proved me wrong, but I have some followers.
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Speaker 3: I think I was already quoted also. So sometimes you
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Speaker 3: quote the opinion of somebody else. But it's always, I mean,
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Speaker 3: there's still no proof for gravity, for example. But there
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Speaker 3: are hypotheses about it. And nobody has falsified the theories
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Speaker 3: that are out now. And that's exactly how you describe it.
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Speaker 3: And I love falsifying things.
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, COVID-19 was easy to falsify. Yes, exactly.
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Speaker 3: That was the reason why I disappeared from YouTube. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if you want to go into that how
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Speaker 3: wrong it was, but it was very easy. I mean,
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Speaker 3: in March already, I think that was Professor Ioannidis, who
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Speaker 3: was the most cited epidemiologist at that time, said, yeah, well,
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Speaker 3: it's a flu. And not even, I don't know if
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Speaker 3: you're into the topic, there's even no proof that the
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Speaker 3: virus exists anymore. And when I said that, I was
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Speaker 3: kicked off YouTube.
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Speaker 2: This is something I've tested, even all the AI engines,
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Speaker 2: to find just one single paper anywhere on the internet
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Speaker 2: that actually has isolated a virus. There isn't one.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And when they talk about an isolated virus, they don't
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Speaker 2: use the word isolated in the way the word isolated means.
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Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly. And so we are on the same page here.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly, and I made an interview with Dr. Stefan Lanker,
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Speaker 3: and then I was, who is one of the most
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Speaker 3: important proponents of that, and Andrew Kaufman is another one.
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Speaker 3: David Icke also spoke about it, and then he was
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Speaker 3: kicked off. And I was also kicked off, but I
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Speaker 3: got my channel back recently. And yeah, that's one of
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Speaker 3: the big topics where I say, okay, it's just you
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Speaker 3: can falsify it so easily. And also, if you look
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Speaker 3: into the statistics, Nobody died. Nobody meaning not more people
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Speaker 3: than usual. So you do not need a virus to
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Speaker 3: explain a flu season. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned earlier that you have written a new
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Speaker 2: book on the Bible. And now this is interesting because
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Speaker 2: some people might go, oh, well. I don't really care
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Speaker 2: about Christianity, but about a billion people in the world
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Speaker 2: are Christians, maybe more. I don't know what the official
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Speaker 2: number is. So it's very relevant to a significant portion
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Speaker 2: of the entire world.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and even half of the people, if you count
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Speaker 3: the Muslims in, believe in the God of the Old Testament.
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Speaker 3: So it's like almost 60%. And I show in my
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Speaker 3: book that Yahweh is not God. So it's very relevant,
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Speaker 3: and it's relevant, we will see later, Because the people
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Speaker 3: behind the scenes, they use that. In part, they know it.
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Speaker 3: I think they know it. I think what I reveal
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Speaker 3: in my book is the secret they reveal at the
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Speaker 3: top of the secret societies. Yeah. And everything that is
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Speaker 3: happening now is happening because of Kabbalists doing it. We
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Speaker 3: will go into that later. But it's not... relevant. They
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Speaker 3: are Kabbalists. They are pushing this narrative and maybe we
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Speaker 3: will have a third world war. It's only because of them.
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Speaker 3: It's not that the people hate each other. It's all nonsense.
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Speaker 3: They create this crisis and there is an ideology behind
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Speaker 3: that and That ideology comes from the Old Testament. And
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Speaker 3: what many people already know that there are Kabbalists, Frankists, Sepertians,
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Speaker 3: all of that. I talked about it like 10 or
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Speaker 3: 15 years ago. Now everybody's talking about it. But the
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Speaker 3: real problem lies in the Old Testament itself. Because Yahweh
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Speaker 3: promises to the Israelites, I conquer the world for you.
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Speaker 3: And this is the plan which is playing out now.
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Speaker 3: He promised it to a certain people, to his tribe.
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Speaker 3: to the Israelites, and they still think, well, we have
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Speaker 3: to fulfill this promise. But as I show in my book,
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Speaker 3: he's not God. We go into that he was just
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Speaker 3: one of the Elohim. Maybe we start with that because
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Speaker 3: that's one of the proofs.
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Speaker 2: So your argument is Yahweh of the Old Testament is
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Speaker 2: not God.
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 3: Exactly. So I give you one verse. Many people don't
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Speaker 3: know it, and that's what I was searching before I
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Speaker 3: went online. So we have the Dead Sea Scrolls. And
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Speaker 3: this is, every scientist accepts that now that this is
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Speaker 3: the original text of Deuteronomy 32, 8 to 9. When
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Speaker 3: the Most High, Elyon, gave the nations their inheritance, when
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Speaker 3: he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples
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Speaker 3: according to the number of the sons of God, Bnei Elohim.
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Speaker 3: But Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob, his allotted inheritance.
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Speaker 3: So it's very clear there is an Elohim, an Elion,
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Speaker 3: who divides the nations and gives Yahweh Israel. And that's
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Speaker 3: accepted now in theology. Nobody talks about it, but you
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Speaker 3: can look it up on website Torah.com and so on,
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Speaker 3: and they even give an explanation why this is not
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Speaker 3: in the modern Bibles, because the authors changed the text
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Speaker 3: because it it sounded too polytheistic. And it is polytheistic.
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Speaker 3: So Yahweh is only one of the Elohim, and we
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Speaker 3: can go deeper in who the Elohim are. But it's
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Speaker 3: very clear that he's only one of many. That's why
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Speaker 3: he was jealous. And he is a very cruel, if
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Speaker 3: you read the Old Testament, I know if you did,
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Speaker 3: he's a very cruel being. I mean.
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Speaker 2: You touch on a very, very taboo point. But something
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Speaker 2: that I've asked many times over the years is in...
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Speaker 2: in Genesis, it starts off by saying, let us create
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Speaker 2: man in our own image. Why plural?
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Speaker 3: Exactly. So that's the Elohim, that's totally clear. And even
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Speaker 3: if you look later, you know, everybody is talking right
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Speaker 3: now about the Nephilim. Yeah, even, you know, the politicians
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Speaker 3: and Anna Luna, what's her name, and everybody's talking about that.
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Speaker 3: But in the Bible, it says the Nephilim are the
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Speaker 3: result of the bene Elohim, the sons of the Elohim
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Speaker 3: mating with women, with human women. There we also have
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Speaker 3: the plural. But even if you take it like they
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Speaker 3: write it, they are the sons of God. How can
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Speaker 3: the sons of God mate with human beings if they
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Speaker 3: are not physical beings? So that alone throws everything out.
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Speaker 3: And I find it so fascinating. Everybody's talking about the
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Speaker 3: Nephilim now. And they don't see the obvious. I mean,
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Speaker 3: if they can mate with women, they are physical beings.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, and there we also have the plural. And
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Speaker 3: it's Elohim.
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Speaker 2: But then who did have sex with the woman?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the sons of the Elohim.
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Speaker 2: But who were the sons? Sorry, that's what I'm trying
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Speaker 2: to find out. Who were the sons?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they only say it's the sons of the Elohim.
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Speaker 3: They don't say which one is it in the Bible.
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Speaker 3: But there's a book of Enoch where it goes more
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Speaker 3: into detail, who is who. And they also talk about
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Speaker 3: the book of Enoch, but it's clear that Enoch went
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Speaker 3: with God. In the Bible, he went with God. No,
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Speaker 3: he went with the Elohim. So I don't know how
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Speaker 3: you can read that and not see the obvious that
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Speaker 3: Yahweh is one of the Elohim. And yeah, they don't
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Speaker 3: name him. I also don't go into that who is who,
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Speaker 3: but it's the son of the Elohim, which are, in
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Speaker 3: my opinion, interdimensional beings who can go into our dimension. Oh, right. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Yes. So that answers my question. So they were able
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Speaker 2: to shapeshift.
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Speaker 3: And not to shapeshift, they are able to go into
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Speaker 3: our dimension. So my big, maybe we come to my
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Speaker 3: big thesis, which is totally new. My thesis is that
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Speaker 3: Jesus taught the disciples how to induce a theta wave
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Speaker 3: state in the brain. And we know now that the
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Speaker 3: theta wave state, you can also take DMT or something
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Speaker 3: like that, you see real beings. And there are a
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Speaker 3: lot of scholars who agree to that. And my thesis is,
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Speaker 3: that Moses, in the Old Testament, took DMT, there's also
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Speaker 3: a scholar who talks about that, it goes with the acacia,
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Speaker 3: you know, the acacia tree, which plays a major role
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Speaker 3: in the Old Testament. I just read more about that.
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Speaker 3: And had this contact to an interdimensional being. And because
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Speaker 3: he was, Moses was very... In a bad mood, you know,
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Speaker 3: he just, well, not just, but he killed a man,
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Speaker 3: so he was very aggressive. My thesis is that he
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Speaker 3: attracted an evil being, which is Yahweh, and Yahweh, because
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Speaker 3: it's very unstable to be in the tether wave state
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Speaker 3: and always meet the same guy, the same entity, Yahweh
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Speaker 3: came into that dimension. That's my thesis, that some of
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Speaker 3: these beings can come into our dimension, And then he
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Speaker 3: gave them a perfect description how to build the Ark
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Speaker 3: of the Covenant so that they have a stable connection.
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Speaker 3: Between the cherubim, his face appears, so it's very clearly
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Speaker 3: a technical apparatus. And I can prove that, but from
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Speaker 3: what is happening, I say some of them can join
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Speaker 3: our dimension via a UAP or UFO connection. And this
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Speaker 3: is what everybody is missing because they talk of demons
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Speaker 3: and angels. I say there are demons and angels, but
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Speaker 3: they cannot enter our reality. So you can talk to
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Speaker 3: a demon on DMT or on which it can also,
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Speaker 3: I'm not advocating to doing that. I'm just saying, Many
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Speaker 3: people report, oh, I met demons and so on, but
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Speaker 3: they cannot enter our reality. Maybe they can take over
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Speaker 3: a body, but some can enter our reality. And that's
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Speaker 3: my big thesis, that because many people today, scientists, describe
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Speaker 3: that UFOs or that aliens are interdimensional beings. So obviously
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Speaker 3: they can change the dimensions. And I'm saying, and there
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Speaker 3: are also scientists who say that maybe the UFO is
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Speaker 3: a vehicle to change the dimension and they appear out
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Speaker 3: of nothing and into nothing. So this is my thesis
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Speaker 3: that Yahweh was just one who was called by Moses
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Speaker 3: and then he made him the offer to conquer the world.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you have to go deeply into the Bible
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Speaker 3: itself to see that, but it's, You know, there's a
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Speaker 3: confusion of words here. Glory is the word they use,
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Speaker 3: but the real word is kebot, which means heavy. Mauro
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Speaker 3: Biglini did a lot about that. So it's very clear
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Speaker 3: there's something landing on the Mount Sinai. It says, yeah,
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Speaker 3: it spreads fire and it's loud and it settles on
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Speaker 3: the Mount Sinai. How can a glory settle anywhere? So
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Speaker 3: it's very clear that it's something distinct from Yahweh. And
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Speaker 3: the other thing is when he protects Moses, He says,
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Speaker 3: go into a cave. I will protect you with the
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Speaker 3: hand from the radiation. So it's very clear he protects
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Speaker 3: him from something else. So the glory is not him.
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Speaker 3: The glory is something else. And later he comes down,
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Speaker 3: has a red face, like also alien abductees report. So
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Speaker 3: it's very clear that we are watching an event there,
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Speaker 3: a UAP event. I mean, most of the people like
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Speaker 3: Erich von Däniken, he was the first one. He talked
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Speaker 3: about the Ezekiel UFO. But they didn't make the transition
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Speaker 3: because the Ezekiel UFO is also the UFO of Yahweh.
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Speaker 3: And I think because of the religion of all these people,
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Speaker 3: and they don't want to lose the Christian audience, they say, yeah, well,
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Speaker 3: there are UFOs in the Old Testament. Yeah, but it's
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Speaker 3: the UAP of Yahweh, and it's later also described. But
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Speaker 3: then the people would lose their faith. I mean, I
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Speaker 3: can tell you one thing. My paper... is liked by
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Speaker 3: certain peoples who, I think they want to signal me,
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Speaker 3: you're right, but I cannot say it. I don't want
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Speaker 3: to out them, of course, because they are giving me
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Speaker 3: that signal, yeah, you're right, but I can't say it.
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Speaker 3: And why you cannot say it? Because it's a threat
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Speaker 3: to religion. But in my book, I think I rescue
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Speaker 3: Christianity because I say that Jesus taught how to connect
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Speaker 3: to the real God. And the big difference here... what
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Speaker 3: he's losing, you have to use love, love for one
19:52
Speaker 3: each other. That's a very important thing also in meditation.
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Speaker 3: Most meditation gurus don't teach that. And so he taught
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Speaker 3: his disciples how to connect to the real God. But
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Speaker 3: in this process, it's possible that you catch a demon.
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Speaker 3: That's why he also taught them how to cast out demons,
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Speaker 3: and that's in the Bible, because it's a dangerous process.
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Speaker 3: It's not for everyone. You need somebody who tells you that,
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Speaker 3: like the shaman in South America. They are experts in that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there are also bad ones, but it's not
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Speaker 3: an easy process.
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Speaker 2: If I break it down into its simplest components, you're
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Speaker 2: making the argument that in the Old Testament, Yahweh is
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Speaker 2: not God. you're saying that he is one of the
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Speaker 2: sons of God. Is that correct?
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Speaker 3: He's one of the sons of the Elohim.
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Speaker 2: Of the Elohim. So what is the Elohim, just for clarity?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Elohim. So what's interesting, we have these old
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Speaker 3: Sumerian texts and Ugaritic texts where there is one head, El,
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Speaker 3: or different names, and he has 70 sons. So he
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Speaker 3: might also be... a son of him directly. And in
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Speaker 3: the beginning of the Bible, we see the world is
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Speaker 3: divided into 70 nations. So that corresponds. So in that reading,
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Speaker 3: Yahweh would also be one of the sons. But here
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Speaker 3: it gets complicated because the L of the old text
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Speaker 3: doesn't have a son named Yahweh. But there is a Baal.
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Speaker 3: And I just wrote an article, I did not publish
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Speaker 3: it yet, that Yahweh was... or the Israelites thought at
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Speaker 3: a certain point that Yahweh is Baal. So maybe it's
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Speaker 3: the same guy. But this is harder to prove. I'm
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Speaker 3: just saying there are interdimensional beings who ruled the planet
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Speaker 3: at that time and Yahweh was just one of them.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: And then to add to that, you're saying that basically
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Speaker 2: the God of the Old Testament and the God of
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Speaker 2: the New Testament, they're not the same.
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Speaker 3: Exactly. Exactly. I'm going even further. It's possible that Jesus
22:06
Speaker 3: met Yahweh, but he called him Satan. So Jesus is
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Speaker 3: saying to the Israelites, your father is the devil. And
22:15
Speaker 3: later in the Revelation, the devil is described as dragon.
22:24
Speaker 3: And in the Old Testament, Yahweh is described as dragon.
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Speaker 3: He spits fire and so on. because he met Satan
22:35
Speaker 3: in the desert. Maybe it was this dragon and later said, yeah,
22:39
Speaker 3: your father is the devil. But the desert episode is
22:45
Speaker 3: very important. So what did he do? He was fasting
22:48
Speaker 3: for 40 days and praying. We know now from modern
22:52
Speaker 3: science that praying, there is not one study for both
22:55
Speaker 3: of us, but contemplative practice Praying can induce the tetherwave
23:01
Speaker 3: state and fasting. And I think they want to cover
23:05
Speaker 3: up that you have to do both because some of
23:08
Speaker 3: the passages where they do both are deleted from the Bible.
23:12
Speaker 3: I will make a new video about that in the future.
23:15
Speaker 3: So he did the things to get in the tetherwave state.
23:18
Speaker 3: And then a being appears and offers him all the
23:22
Speaker 3: states of the world, all the kingdoms of the world.
23:24
Speaker 3: But in the Old Testament, Yahweh already rules over all
23:28
Speaker 3: kingdoms of the world. And Moses said, yes, okay, we
23:31
Speaker 3: conquer the world. And Jesus said the opposite. No, we
23:33
Speaker 3: are conquering nothing. I reject you. My kingdom, later he says,
23:38
Speaker 3: my kingdom is not of this world. The kingdom of
23:41
Speaker 3: God is within you, which also means you have to
23:44
Speaker 3: know yourself, which is, in the old mystical traditions, a
23:49
Speaker 3: very normal thing to say. And he even says himself
23:54
Speaker 3: to the disciples that, I tell you, my disciples, the
23:58
Speaker 3: mysteries of the universe or the heavenly realms, but I
24:02
Speaker 3: don't tell it to the public. And the word used
24:04
Speaker 3: there is mysteria, which is a secret only for the initiates.
24:10
Speaker 3: So it's very clear here that he told them something else,
24:13
Speaker 3: and it's very clear that he meets an individual, an entity,
24:18
Speaker 3: who at least claims, I'm ruling over the whole world.
24:22
Speaker 3: But to make it a little bit more complicated, I'm
24:24
Speaker 3: sorry about that, but Satan works for Yahweh in the
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Speaker 3: Old Testament.
24:29
Speaker 2: So Satan is a subordinate agent of Yahweh.
24:32
Speaker 3: Exactly. And he works as a prosecutor. I even think
24:37
Speaker 3: that it's only a chopstick description because most of the
24:40
Speaker 3: time it says, which means their accuser, like in their prosecutor.
24:46
Speaker 3: I think it was just the prosecutor of the Elohim council.
24:50
Speaker 3: So it might not even be a being, it might
24:53
Speaker 3: be just a job description. Yeah, that was the prosecutor.
24:56
Speaker 3: And if you look, he's doing things a prosecutor today does.
25:00
Speaker 3: For example, he does sting operations with Europe. He tries
25:03
Speaker 3: to trick the people in disobeying God, disobeying Yahweh, and
25:08
Speaker 3: then he punishes them. So it's exactly what a prosecutor
25:11
Speaker 3: does today, you know, with us, tricking us into committing crimes. So,
25:16
Speaker 3: and it's kind of funny because, you know, I get backlash,
25:21
Speaker 3: From Christians, you are Satanist. You don't even know that
25:25
Speaker 3: Satan works for Yahweh in the Old Testament. And they
25:28
Speaker 3: accuse me of spreading lies. If you don't know that
25:33
Speaker 3: Satan works for Yahweh in the Old Testament, you know nothing.
25:36
Speaker 3: So the Satan of the New Testament is, or later
25:40
Speaker 3: in Christianity, is a totally different being than the Old Testament.
25:44
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that.
25:46
Speaker 2: So you were talking now about the episode in the desert.
25:49
Speaker 2: But I mean, something else that I've wondered is that
25:53
Speaker 2: the Bible says God cannot be tempted, but modern Christianity
25:59
Speaker 2: teaches you that Jesus is God. And if Jesus is
26:02
Speaker 2: God and Jesus was in the desert being tempted, something
26:07
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.
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Speaker 3: Right. Exactly, yeah. It's a good argument. I never, I didn't,
26:14
Speaker 3: I don't have that argument in my book, but that's
26:16
Speaker 3: also a good argument, yes. I mean, the whole I
26:18
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't want to, I know how Christian,
26:22
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand that you have a religion, you're
26:25
Speaker 3: grown up, grow up in the religion. But I mean, it's,
26:30
Speaker 3: for me, I'm sorry to say that it's ridiculous to
26:32
Speaker 3: say Jesus is God. It's a human being. He was
26:35
Speaker 3: a very special being. I'm praying to Jesus because that's
26:39
Speaker 3: another big topic. I think he taught, Jesus taught reincarnation.
26:42
Speaker 3: I also... believe in reincarnation but if you are such
26:45
Speaker 3: a good being you are up there in another dimension
26:47
Speaker 3: and you can pray to him so I'm praying to
26:49
Speaker 3: Jesus but to say he is God that's blasphemy for
26:53
Speaker 3: me I mean I don't use the word blasphemy because
26:55
Speaker 3: they use it against me but how can you say
26:59
Speaker 3: that this human being is God and created the universe
27:03
Speaker 3: for me It doesn't make any sense. And it's also interesting.
27:07
Speaker 2: Sorry, but the argument is that he is the son
27:10
Speaker 2: of God and therefore God is the father. And then
27:12
Speaker 2: you end up with this sort of mental gymnastics known
27:15
Speaker 2: as the Trinity, which then kind of explains why he
27:19
Speaker 2: shouted out on the cross. Because when he was being crucified,
27:22
Speaker 2: who was he shouting out to?
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Speaker 3: Exactly. Shall I tell you what the Trinity is? But
27:28
Speaker 3: your viewers will be shocked. In my view, the Trinity is...
27:34
Speaker 3: The Father, that's clear, yeah, that's God. And the Son
27:39
Speaker 3: of God, okay, I say it now. It's the title
27:43
Speaker 3: of the highest initiate. So it's the Son of God,
27:47
Speaker 3: the highest initiate, and the Holy Ghost is the spiritual world.
27:51
Speaker 3: So if you are the highest initiate in this mystery
27:55
Speaker 3: school he founded, then you will learn how to connect
27:58
Speaker 3: to God and the spiritual world.
28:01
Speaker 2: And....
28:07
Speaker 3: I'm struggling with the English words. I wanted to say proof,
28:10
Speaker 3: but you said before there's no proof of that. But
28:12
Speaker 3: what shows this is that Jesus later says to the disciples,
28:19
Speaker 3: if you learn all of that what I teach you,
28:22
Speaker 3: you will also be sons of God. So how is
28:25
Speaker 3: that possible if he's the son of God? He says
28:28
Speaker 3: this in the Apocrypha, and he says this also in
28:30
Speaker 3: the New Testament. You will also be sons of God.
28:32
Speaker 3: Sons of God is if you have the highest initiation,
28:36
Speaker 3: if you really know what you're doing. And I think
28:40
Speaker 3: my explanation is at least as valid as the strange trinity,
28:44
Speaker 3: which I never understood. I mean, you also explained that
28:47
Speaker 3: it's hard to understand what do they mean with that.
28:49
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just, that's one funny thing that they
28:52
Speaker 3: are always trying to, you know, if I discuss with
28:55
Speaker 3: Christians or nobody discussed yet, but no, it says that
28:58
Speaker 3: and that. Then I say, yeah, but it doesn't say that.
29:01
Speaker 3: That's what the church tells you. And there's one good
29:03
Speaker 3: example for that. He taught reincarnation because one of the
29:08
Speaker 3: disciples asked him and then he said, no, you have
29:10
Speaker 3: to be reborn to find to God. And then they say, what?
29:14
Speaker 3: Reborn in the same body? And he says, no, not
29:17
Speaker 3: in the same body because the body and the spirit
29:20
Speaker 3: are two separate things. So he's clearly talking about reincarnation there.
29:24
Speaker 3: And then what does the church make out of it? Yeah,
29:26
Speaker 3: that's a born-again Christian. It's not a born-again Christian. It's
29:30
Speaker 3: you have to be reborn, you have to be reincarnated.
29:34
Speaker 3: So I think it means that on your first run,
29:37
Speaker 3: you don't get to do everything right, so you have
29:40
Speaker 3: to be reborn. You have to, because if you die,
29:42
Speaker 3: we know that from the near-death experiences that you see
29:47
Speaker 3: your life, you know, what you did wrong and so on,
29:50
Speaker 3: and you feel the other person, you know, what you
29:53
Speaker 3: did to the other person, because you have to learn empathy.
29:55
Speaker 3: And that's, in my opinion, of course, that's an opinion
29:57
Speaker 3: statement We are here to learn that, to learn empathy,
30:01
Speaker 3: because if you want to reunite with God, which is
30:05
Speaker 3: pure love, you have to learn to love. But that's
30:09
Speaker 3: not directly in the Bible, but I'm just summarizing it.
30:13
Speaker 3: But it makes sense, because the most important, that's also interesting,
30:16
Speaker 3: because the most important thing Jesus said is still valid.
30:19
Speaker 3: Love your neighbor like yourself. And first, you know, believe
30:22
Speaker 3: in God, and love your neighbor like yourself. But most
30:25
Speaker 3: people don't grasp what it means. You have to do
30:27
Speaker 3: that to learn love, to get up to God, because
30:31
Speaker 3: God is poor love, and that's what you have to learn.
30:35
Speaker 3: But he also says, for example, who uses the sword
30:39
Speaker 3: will die by the sword. But this is not true
30:42
Speaker 3: in this world. For example, Rockefeller or the Rothschild, they
30:46
Speaker 3: never died of any sword, but they killed many people indirectly.
30:50
Speaker 3: So it doesn't happen in this world. It can only
30:54
Speaker 3: happen if you appear again on Earth. Then it's done
30:58
Speaker 3: to you what you did to others. And yeah, I
31:03
Speaker 3: hope it wasn't too complicated. It's hard to jump on
31:06
Speaker 3: all of that.
31:07
Speaker 2: You make the point that Jesus revolted against secret societies,
31:12
Speaker 2: but didn't he himself have a secret society in the
31:16
Speaker 2: form of his disciples? Because you've also said that he
31:19
Speaker 2: had a mystery school. He spoke in parables in public,
31:24
Speaker 2: but with his disciples, he spoke directly.
31:27
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good point. So there's a difference between
31:32
Speaker 3: a mystery school and a secret society. The secret societies
31:36
Speaker 3: are the ones who are ruling us to keep everything
31:39
Speaker 3: secret that we don't know that they rule us. But
31:42
Speaker 3: they know the same secrets. So they also know how
31:45
Speaker 3: to connect to the spiritual world, but they are connecting
31:48
Speaker 3: to demons. And yeah, we have to believe it or not.
31:52
Speaker 3: Of course, I tell a lot of examples in my book.
31:56
Speaker 3: Some of them say it. more or less clearly. But
32:01
Speaker 3: he countered that and said, no, I teach my people
32:07
Speaker 3: how to connect to the real God. But he couldn't
32:09
Speaker 3: say that openly because that's like the initial mystery schools
32:14
Speaker 3: weren't something bad. The initial mystery schools is we are
32:18
Speaker 3: teaching the mysteries of the universe. But you have to
32:22
Speaker 3: be worthy. Because if you have an absolutely idiot in
32:27
Speaker 3: front of you, he will never learn that. Or if
32:29
Speaker 3: you have a really bad guy, a psychopath. So you
32:32
Speaker 3: have to select. And that's what Jesus did. He selected
32:36
Speaker 3: his disciples and said, okay, you can do it, but
32:39
Speaker 3: you cannot. So the motive of the secrecy is a
32:42
Speaker 3: different one. Of course, the secret societies like the Illuminati
32:45
Speaker 3: and so on, they also say you got to be selected.
32:48
Speaker 3: But they select, if you are evil... they take you
32:53
Speaker 3: when you are a psychopath and you have to kill people,
32:56
Speaker 3: you know, to get up or you have to be
32:57
Speaker 3: rich like George Bush, you know, the Skull and Bones Society,
33:00
Speaker 3: you attack because you're rich, you're already in a bad family.
33:04
Speaker 3: So it's the reason for the secrecy is something else
33:09
Speaker 3: and they teach there how to oppress the people. But
33:12
Speaker 3: you also need to be secret about teaching the liberation
33:16
Speaker 3: of it because otherwise you're hunted down.
33:20
Speaker 2: If Yahweh is the God of the Old Testament, then
33:23
Speaker 2: who is the God of the New Testament?
33:26
Speaker 3: I would say that's the real God. So it's not
33:30
Speaker 3: a physical entity or something. It's the creator of the universe.
33:36
Speaker 3: So the real God. And also, if you do that meditation,
33:40
Speaker 3: for example, let's take a harmless example, not with drugs.
33:46
Speaker 3: you feel that connection to this God. And also, that's
33:49
Speaker 3: the same, everybody, almost everybody who had a near-death experience
33:54
Speaker 3: tells you, you feel this overwhelming love. You feel it
33:59
Speaker 3: with meditation, you feel it with certain drugs, if not
34:03
Speaker 3: done wrong, and you feel it with the near-death experience.
34:08
Speaker 3: And they all say you can't describe it. So if
34:11
Speaker 3: you don't do it yourself, the meditation, you cannot describe it.
34:14
Speaker 3: But that's the connection to the real God. And he's
34:17
Speaker 3: not like the Elohim, you know, people fighting. He's not
34:20
Speaker 3: somebody who fights others. Like Yahweh fights others all the time.
34:23
Speaker 3: God doesn't do that. He just welcomes you if you're
34:26
Speaker 3: a good person or learn to be a good person.
34:30
Speaker 3: That's the theory of the guy who wrote the book
34:32
Speaker 3: I was examining, Abdu'l-Shin. So there's no proof of that.
34:36
Speaker 3: But I think it's logical that if you learn the
34:39
Speaker 3: lesson that you ascend. And he also says, And that's
34:42
Speaker 3: also very interesting. There is no hell. There is a Sheol.
34:45
Speaker 3: And in the Sheol, you experience what you did to others.
34:49
Speaker 3: But if you repent, then you are ready to go
34:52
Speaker 3: again to be reborn. And there's a verse in the
34:55
Speaker 3: Bible which says that with Lazarus, I would have to
34:58
Speaker 3: look it up again if you want to go deeper
35:01
Speaker 3: into that, but I will make a video about that.
35:03
Speaker 3: So the Sheol is not eternal hell. And maybe the
35:07
Speaker 3: next question is, why are the churches doing that? Because
35:10
Speaker 3: you do not need a church for that. Because it's individual.
35:13
Speaker 3: You have to connect to God. You have to examine yourself,
35:16
Speaker 3: know yourself, be brutally honest. Most people aren't, including me.
35:20
Speaker 3: It's very hard to be honest to you, to see
35:22
Speaker 3: your own mistakes and make them better. But it cannot
35:27
Speaker 3: be done for you by the church. The church, a
35:29
Speaker 3: little bit like the state, offers you that. Yeah, yeah, okay,
35:34
Speaker 3: like in the Catholic church, pray this prayer and it's forgiven.
35:37
Speaker 3: That's the service they offer. But, of course, it's not
35:41
Speaker 3: how it works. There can be not a priest, and, yeah,
35:43
Speaker 3: you know, forgive him. You told me. Yeah, you confessed. No, no, no.
35:46
Speaker 3: You have to work on yourself. Nobody can do that.
35:51
Speaker 3: You don't need a church. You need to examine yourself.
35:54
Speaker 3: And the church is doing more or less the opposite
35:58
Speaker 3: of that. Okay, just, I don't know, if you speak
36:04
Speaker 3: to a lot of Christians, they always say, yeah, just
36:06
Speaker 3: repent and believe in Jesus, and that's it. You have
36:09
Speaker 3: to believe in Jesus as if it doesn't matter what
36:11
Speaker 3: you're doing. I mean, that's another big point because we
36:14
Speaker 3: are on it. Because Jesus said, you only come to
36:17
Speaker 3: God via me. I think it means only if you
36:22
Speaker 3: do exactly what I told you. I think that's what
36:24
Speaker 3: he meant. But you don't know, you know, the Gospels
36:28
Speaker 3: were written much later. But just logic now, logic. Do
36:32
Speaker 3: you really think? that a man or woman who is
36:37
Speaker 3: always good to other people and always helps other people
36:41
Speaker 3: and is a Hindu or a black guy in Africa
36:45
Speaker 3: or wherever and he doesn't go to heaven because Christianity
36:50
Speaker 3: is not available in this village. I mean now we
36:54
Speaker 3: could theoretically, everybody could be a Christian but it's so,
36:58
Speaker 3: then Jesus would be a narcissist. So saying that you
37:02
Speaker 3: only come to heaven if you believe in Jesus, that's
37:05
Speaker 3: already an excluding ideology. Why should somebody who's a good
37:11
Speaker 3: man not come into heaven?
37:14
Speaker 2: And also the idea that God is the same and
37:19
Speaker 2: he doesn't change. And yet in the Old Testament, he's
37:22
Speaker 2: pretty angry and he destroys a lot of stuff and
37:27
Speaker 2: he asks parents to kill their kids.
37:30
Speaker 3: Exactly, so I didn't come to that yet. So he's
37:33
Speaker 3: ordering children to be killed, the children of Amalek. He orders,
37:38
Speaker 3: and that also happened, to kill the firstborn in Egypt.
37:42
Speaker 3: And I'm even proposing, and you have to look into
37:46
Speaker 3: all my sources, it's on my sub-stack, that they sacrifice
37:50
Speaker 3: children to Yahweh in the beginning. Because there's one saying,
37:54
Speaker 3: they said, yeah, well, I allowed that, They know that
37:57
Speaker 3: I am Yahweh, but now I changed my opinion. I
38:00
Speaker 3: think it was just written in because they changed that.
38:03
Speaker 3: So Judaism involved and they didn't sacrifice children anymore. They
38:06
Speaker 3: had to explain that. And then they write in, yeah, well,
38:09
Speaker 3: I changed my mind. But the verses are very clear.
38:12
Speaker 3: All firstborn are mine. And, you know, he asked Abraham
38:18
Speaker 3: to sacrifice Isaac. And there's a Talmudic tradition, by the way,
38:21
Speaker 3: where he did that. But why did he even ask that?
38:24
Speaker 3: Because it was normal at that time. And one thing
38:31
Speaker 3: almost nobody noticed, he demands 32 virgins for himself. So
38:36
Speaker 3: there's a verse where they say, yeah, kill all the children,
38:42
Speaker 3: but not the female virgins. So all children are killed,
38:46
Speaker 3: but not the female virgins. And the Israelites get 16,000
38:48
Speaker 3: and he gets 32. What does a God want with.
38:56
Speaker 3: With virgins, with female virgins. And he also asking for gold, silver,
39:01
Speaker 3: and cattle, and even alone the fact that they sacrifice
39:07
Speaker 3: cattle or animals to Yahweh. I mean, what God would want,
39:12
Speaker 3: animals are also the creation of God. Why would he
39:15
Speaker 3: want that sacrifice? But the same thing is what the
39:19
Speaker 3: Satanists or these groups, vampires or whatever, They sacrifice in
39:25
Speaker 3: the secret societies. This rapper, it's known that he sacrificed
39:30
Speaker 3: a bird. Who was the rapper who recently got sentenced,
39:35
Speaker 3: a ridiculous sentence, the famous rapper? I think it was
39:41
Speaker 3: known that he sacrificed birds, for example. the Satanists today
39:47
Speaker 3: are also sacrificing animals, and nobody sees the parallel that
39:50
Speaker 3: sacrificing animals is already evidence that it's not God you're
39:55
Speaker 3: sacrificing to. Because why would the God, and of course
39:57
Speaker 3: the God of the New Testament, that was your question,
40:00
Speaker 3: he doesn't demand any of that. Not any of that.
40:04
Speaker 2: Where does the Vatican fit in here?
40:07
Speaker 3: So there was an early, what do you call it,
40:11
Speaker 3: early church father, it was Marcion, And he told the people,
40:16
Speaker 3: it's obvious the guy in the Old Testament is not God.
40:19
Speaker 3: So he wrote his own gospel, more or less. And
40:22
Speaker 3: then what we know now as Catholic Church, they pushed
40:26
Speaker 3: him aside and later persecuted that. And you always have
40:29
Speaker 3: to think about heretics. I'm also called a heretic. Heretics
40:33
Speaker 3: were killed at the time. So you don't kill people
40:36
Speaker 3: who say illogical things. You only kill people who say
40:39
Speaker 3: logical things. And so... the Vatican is the main source
40:45
Speaker 3: for all of that. And of course, you could argue
40:47
Speaker 3: that the first, yeah, the first so-to-speak popes, they were Jewish,
40:53
Speaker 3: like Peter, if you call him the first one. So
40:57
Speaker 3: there's also a debate about that. One of my main
40:59
Speaker 3: points is, why do we think that Jesus is the Messiah,
41:06
Speaker 3: the Jewish Messiah? Because the Gospels were written by Jews
41:09
Speaker 3: who wanted to.
41:11
Speaker 3: According to official history, it was written by Jewish writers.
41:15
Speaker 3: And they wanted to convince the fellow Jews that this
41:17
Speaker 3: is the Messiah from the Old Testament. And that's still teached.
41:21
Speaker 3: But it's very clear that the Jewish Messiah is an
41:25
Speaker 3: earthly ruler from the house of David. That's why they
41:28
Speaker 3: wrote in that Jesus is from the house of David,
41:32
Speaker 3: but it doesn't match. That's clearly an earthly ruler. That
41:37
Speaker 3: is how this Messiah is described in the Old Testament.
41:40
Speaker 3: It's clearly not Jesus because he says, my kingdom is
41:43
Speaker 3: not of this world. So we have the problem here
41:47
Speaker 3: that you do not know what these Jewish writers wrote
41:50
Speaker 3: in to convince us of that. But only the one fact.
41:55
Speaker 3: Jesus abolished the Mosaic law. That's official because in Christianity
42:00
Speaker 3: you don't have the 613 mitzvahs, which are in part
42:04
Speaker 3: are crazy, you know, don't work on Saturday, not even,
42:07
Speaker 3: it's interpreted as you cannot even, you know, switch your
42:11
Speaker 3: light off and on. That's how they interpret it now.
42:15
Speaker 3: And there's a comedian who made jokes about that, a
42:18
Speaker 3: Jewish one. So, of course, most of these rules are senseless.
42:23
Speaker 3: But how could he abolish 613 rules of Yahweh if
42:26
Speaker 3: he believed in Yahweh? And he not only says, do
42:29
Speaker 3: you want to have more arguments why Yahweh is not
42:32
Speaker 3: Jesus' father? because I have a collection here, what he
42:37
Speaker 3: all says. So he says that the father of Israelites
42:43
Speaker 3: is the devil, and he also says, okay, I don't
42:49
Speaker 3: find it, I make it out of my head. So
42:53
Speaker 3: he also says that who would give their people snakes
42:59
Speaker 3: if they are hungry? And in the Old Testament, Yahweh
43:02
Speaker 3: does exactly that. The Israelites are hungry, and he sends snakes.
43:06
Speaker 3: So that's one more hint that this is not the
43:09
Speaker 3: same God. And I have more on my subtext, all
43:12
Speaker 3: for free, by the way. But the question which arises here, yeah,
43:18
Speaker 3: but there are in the Gospels texts which refer to
43:22
Speaker 3: the Old Testament. And I'm saying, yeah, these are the
43:26
Speaker 3: texts that were written in by Jewish writers to convince
43:29
Speaker 3: the other Jews that he is their Messiah. But all
43:33
Speaker 3: the other things do not fit. And from a, I
43:36
Speaker 3: recently had a discussion on X about, yeah, but here
43:39
Speaker 3: in this verse it says, he teached everything in open,
43:43
Speaker 3: there's no secret. So we have a contradiction of the
43:46
Speaker 3: other verse where he says that. But if you have
43:48
Speaker 3: a contradiction, either you say that the whole religion is
43:51
Speaker 3: nonsense because we have these contradictions and you have many contradictions,
43:55
Speaker 3: or you develop a theory, why is that? And my
43:58
Speaker 3: theory is, It's obvious it was not the same guy,
44:01
Speaker 3: but Yahweh is not the God. And there's a rest
44:05
Speaker 3: of it in the Gospels. But the other things were added.
44:08
Speaker 3: So there's a theory behind it that explains the contradictions.
44:13
Speaker 3: The Christians who say that, they don't have an explanation
44:17
Speaker 3: for the contradiction. You know what I mean?
44:20
Speaker 2: So what is the role of the Kabbalah?
44:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a very big topic. Because they interpretate
44:29
Speaker 3: the Bible, mainly the Old Testament, as a plan. There's
44:34
Speaker 3: one guy who is very deep into that. That's Christopher
44:37
Speaker 3: John Bjergnes. And also a German colleague of mine went
44:42
Speaker 3: deep into that, Wolfgang Egert. But Bjergnes goes deeper into that.
44:48
Speaker 3: But the important thing to know for everybody is that
44:51
Speaker 3: Kabbalah is the ideology of the Freemasons. So when everybody
44:56
Speaker 3: is talking about Freemasons, they are talking about Kabbalists. And
45:00
Speaker 3: nobody tells you that. You can, 100 books about the Freemasons, oh,
45:04
Speaker 3: it's the Freemasons, it's the Freemasons. It's the Kabbalists. So
45:07
Speaker 3: you have to look into the Kabbalah. And what already
45:10
Speaker 3: you can read Gershom Scholem, which is the Kabbalah expert, Jewish,
45:15
Speaker 3: German guy. He's dead now, but he's the accepted authority.
45:19
Speaker 3: According to him, the Zohar says that The world is
45:25
Speaker 3: only repaired, tikkun olam, when all the nations of the
45:29
Speaker 3: world vanish, when they are destroyed, meaning all other nations.
45:35
Speaker 3: So all other nations, meaning all Gentiles, need to die
45:39
Speaker 3: before the world is repaired. That's just a fact that
45:42
Speaker 3: he says that. And Christopher Trombjörgnis goes even further. I
45:47
Speaker 3: had an interview with him recently. He says the end
45:50
Speaker 3: goal is that only 600,000 androgyne, artificially created beings will survive. 600,000
45:59
Speaker 3: of the 600,000 original Jewish souls. Well, that's even crazier.
46:04
Speaker 3: But it's very clear that they are working on destroying
46:07
Speaker 3: the nations. And if you look, who is destroying the
46:11
Speaker 3: nations right now? I mean, who is doing that? What
46:16
Speaker 3: religion or ethnicity do have the guys who do the immigration?
46:25
Speaker 3: Is that really an accident that you want? Even in
46:29
Speaker 3: the Old Testament, it's about destruction or taking over the nations.
46:34
Speaker 3: So it's an Old Testament plot to take over or
46:37
Speaker 3: destroy other nations. And the guys doing it have this overwhelmingly,
46:43
Speaker 3: this ethnicity? Is that then an accident, you know, or
46:48
Speaker 3: is it just because they are doing what they are
46:51
Speaker 3: told in their mind, what the Kabbalah tells them? The
46:54
Speaker 3: whole Kabbalah thing, it's more complicated. There's this Chinese guy
46:58
Speaker 3: who says he's a professor. He's stealing from Christopher John B. Agnes,
47:01
Speaker 3: but he's on the surface of that. With Gog and Magog,
47:05
Speaker 3: I also wrote about that 10 years ago, but it's
47:07
Speaker 3: a little bit complicated. But to make it easy, they
47:10
Speaker 3: want the Christian nations and the Muslim nations to destroy
47:15
Speaker 3: each other, but also two-thirds of Jerusalem, and then their
47:20
Speaker 3: Messiah comes. But there are other people who think there
47:24
Speaker 3: will be a world government, and not so many people die.
47:26
Speaker 3: In the Talmud, it says every Jew will have, I think, 2,800 slaves,
47:31
Speaker 3: more or less. You can interpret it this way. So
47:35
Speaker 3: that's also one of the reasons why I do this,
47:38
Speaker 3: because almost everybody will die, also most Jews. And that's
47:43
Speaker 3: also what Christopher says. It's like, I'm writing the book
47:47
Speaker 3: not only for Gentiles, I'm also writing it for Jews.
47:51
Speaker 3: And of course, I don't think that this plan will
47:53
Speaker 3: all come to fruition, but I mean, that's what they
47:56
Speaker 3: are working on. And you can read it, you know,
47:58
Speaker 3: and Chabad Lubavitch, for example, I'm sure you know that
48:02
Speaker 3: it's connected to Putin, connected to Trump and to Netanyahu.
48:05
Speaker 3: And you can go on the website, of Chabad Lubavitch,
48:09
Speaker 3: where they say that all other nations come from the
48:13
Speaker 3: evil side, you know, and have evil souls and all
48:15
Speaker 3: of that. So it's like crazy that you even let
48:18
Speaker 3: somebody into the White House, like Jerry Kushner, who follows
48:23
Speaker 3: an ideology that all other nations are evil. I mean,
48:26
Speaker 3: it's just crazy.
48:28
Speaker 2: To summarize some of your points, you've argued that Yahweh,
48:32
Speaker 2: or the God of the Old Testament, is not the
48:35
Speaker 2: same God of the New Testament, you've argued that Jesus
48:39
Speaker 2: rejected Yahweh and that he had a mystery school, as
48:44
Speaker 2: it were. So he would give parables publicly, but then
48:49
Speaker 2: teach more directly to his disciples. You've also brought up
48:52
Speaker 2: UFOs and aliens. You didn't really expand on that.
48:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, right. So the interesting thing is what we are
49:01
Speaker 3: seeing now, playing it all out in the open. Because
49:04
Speaker 3: I told you before, in the theta wave state, you
49:06
Speaker 3: can contact these interdimensional beings. That's exactly what they are
49:10
Speaker 3: trying now. There are people like Ross Coulthard, I don't
49:13
Speaker 3: know if you know him, and Dr. Stephen Greer, they
49:16
Speaker 3: say you can summon people aliens by meditation. So they
49:23
Speaker 3: are doing right now what they did back then in
49:27
Speaker 3: the Bible and the Old Testament and that confirms it
49:30
Speaker 3: more or less. But there is an effort now from
49:32
Speaker 3: the Christian side. They are saying that they are all
49:36
Speaker 3: angels and demons. And there is Some UFO guys who
49:43
Speaker 3: don't believe in angels and demons. But I'm saying both
49:45
Speaker 3: is correct. There are angels and demons. They cannot change
49:47
Speaker 3: the dimension. But what demon would need a UFO to
49:51
Speaker 3: go into our dimension? That's just crazy. I mean, there
49:55
Speaker 3: could be aliens who are mistaken for demons. But it's
50:00
Speaker 3: another phenomenon. It's not the demon phenomenon. If you can
50:06
Speaker 3: go into a UFO and go somewhere, a demon doesn't
50:09
Speaker 3: need that. So that's the Christian side says now, Tucker
50:13
Speaker 3: Carlson says, yeah, it's demons. What demon needs a UAP?
50:18
Speaker 3: It's crazy. So both is true. And I think there's
50:22
Speaker 3: a possibility that there are good and bad aliens, of course,
50:26
Speaker 3: and that the governments already work together with the bad ones.
50:30
Speaker 3: It was funny because there is a professor who works
50:34
Speaker 3: for the Israeli Defense Department. And he said, yeah, we
50:38
Speaker 3: already have contact to aliens. But this can't be the
50:41
Speaker 3: good aliens because they are killing children in Gaza right now,
50:44
Speaker 3: sacrificing children. So I was speculating this might be reptiles, reptilians,
50:52
Speaker 3: because they already say, I don't know if you saw it,
50:55
Speaker 3: they say there are reptilian aliens. And I say there's
50:59
Speaker 3: a possibility that Yahweh was one because he's described as
51:02
Speaker 3: a dragon. He also doesn't want to show his face. Instead,
51:05
Speaker 3: they put the snake on the pole. So this is
51:08
Speaker 3: a possibility. It's not a proven thing. So we are
51:14
Speaker 3: more or less in the endgame of all of that
51:16
Speaker 3: because now it comes out there are aliens, there are reptilians.
51:19
Speaker 3: They say there are four, the blonde ones, the gray ones,
51:23
Speaker 3: and the insectoids. So it's so fascinating for me that
51:28
Speaker 3: we are living in that time where I don't know.
51:31
Speaker 3: What do you think, for example, about UAPs? What do
51:35
Speaker 3: you think about it?
51:37
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah.
51:39
Speaker 3: These are the same people who are doing that. So
51:43
Speaker 3: it's hard to describe them because Zionists doesn't really describe
51:47
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Zionists is a political movement who wanted
51:50
Speaker 3: the state. But it all ties together. So I think
51:55
Speaker 3: there is a reason why they attack Iran right now.
52:03
Speaker 3: I don't want to go too deep into that, but
52:06
Speaker 3: it all ties together. And they wanted this war and
52:10
Speaker 3: they needed Charlie Kirk out of the way. And I
52:16
Speaker 3: don't know if you covered the whole case, but what
52:19
Speaker 3: I'm really angry about that nobody realizes that. So I
52:22
Speaker 3: can say it now. That's why I told him, please
52:25
Speaker 3: ask me for the Charlie Kirk questions. We have the
52:28
Speaker 3: Google searchers. And I told you already, I come from
52:33
Speaker 3: a science standpoint. And most people do not realize what
52:37
Speaker 3: a precise science statistics is. Stochastic. It's a very precise science.
52:44
Speaker 3: So if you have a combination of probabilities, or I
52:48
Speaker 3: begin at the Google searches. We have all these Google
52:51
Speaker 3: searches from Israel. So from Israel were searched the doctors,
52:56
Speaker 3: the lawyers, Tyler Robinson himself, and so on. And then
52:59
Speaker 3: we have the Google searches even in Hebrew for the
53:02
Speaker 3: exact address. You know, Sue Peters and Anna Escobar said
53:06
Speaker 3: it on his show. But it's ignored by Kenneth Owens,
53:11
Speaker 3: by Tucker Carlson, and all the others who are writing
53:14
Speaker 3: about that or are doing shows about it. It's an
53:17
Speaker 3: impossibility that this is all coincidence, and I want to
53:20
Speaker 3: explain that. You have to combine the probability of all
53:25
Speaker 3: of that. So if there is, for example, a 50%
53:27
Speaker 3: probability that somebody in Israel searches for that, That's okay,
53:36
Speaker 3: that's 50-50, that can happen. But you have to combine
53:38
Speaker 3: the probability with the lawyer being searched, with the doctor
53:42
Speaker 3: being searched, with what was searched, the exact address and
53:47
Speaker 3: so on. Even if you say that's all 50-50, you
53:51
Speaker 3: have to do 0.5 times 0.5 times 0.5 and so on.
53:56
Speaker 3: So in the end, you have a probability of 0.0001%.
53:57
Speaker 3: This is a coincidence. Now, scientifically speaking, it's not impossible,
54:04
Speaker 3: but in layman terms, it is impossible. So we already
54:08
Speaker 3: know that Israel is behind it, and that ties, of course, into,
54:12
Speaker 3: let's put it this way, in the end times scenario.
54:15
Speaker 3: They want the end times. They want the fight Gog
54:18
Speaker 3: against Magog, and that's why they need the Iran war.
54:21
Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons. And so it's all playing out.
54:25
Speaker 3: The old biblical stories are all playing out in plain sight,
54:28
Speaker 3: and everything connects to each other.
54:33
Speaker 2: So what's the moral of the story?
54:40
Speaker 3: Learn how to love in one thing. Because it's like
54:46
Speaker 3: there's so much in that love your neighbor like yourself.
54:51
Speaker 3: Like yourself is also part of it. You have to
54:53
Speaker 3: love yourself, but for that you have to know yourself.
54:56
Speaker 3: And for that you have to better yourself. You have
54:58
Speaker 3: to be a better human being. That's how you fight that.
55:02
Speaker 3: But in terms of the politics, okay, should I go
55:08
Speaker 3: into that? Because I want a stateless society, but I
55:11
Speaker 3: don't know if we have time for that. Okay, so
55:15
Speaker 3: that's also a very important thing. This commandment, love your
55:21
Speaker 3: neighbor like yourself, also excludes a state, logically. Because a
55:26
Speaker 3: state robs you via taxes. Then the other argument, yeah,
55:30
Speaker 3: but we agreed. I didn't agree to it. You did
55:32
Speaker 3: not agree to be taxed. So this little commandment already says,
55:37
Speaker 3: Jesus was talking, and I showed that in my book,
55:39
Speaker 3: was talking about a stateless society without any rulers. Nobody
55:45
Speaker 3: has the right to rule over you because you didn't
55:48
Speaker 3: ask him. If you do, like in a company, That's okay.
55:53
Speaker 3: The CEO tells you what to do, but you joined
55:56
Speaker 3: the company. That's why you have to do that. I also,
55:59
Speaker 3: most of the time, if I join a company and
56:01
Speaker 3: I'm not satisfied, I say, yeah, but it's okay. For example,
56:06
Speaker 3: I write for a magazine, compact magazine, and they have
56:10
Speaker 3: a slightly different approach to Russia, a more friendly approach
56:16
Speaker 3: to Russia. But I'm saying, yeah, but I'm working here.
56:18
Speaker 3: And the editor-in-chief says, yeah, well, I don't want you
56:22
Speaker 3: to write about Russia. Then I do it. You know
56:24
Speaker 3: what I mean? So that's all voluntarily. And a society
56:29
Speaker 3: should have no rulers. And that comes out of the
56:33
Speaker 3: love your neighbor like yourself. I mean, if you want
56:35
Speaker 3: to argue with me about it, I'm happy to do that.
56:39
Speaker 3: But it's super easy to understand. Nobody has the right
56:41
Speaker 3: to rob me of anything. So The one simple rule
56:45
Speaker 3: explains also the society we should have, which is a
56:48
Speaker 3: stateless society.
56:50
Speaker 2: You've got an interdimensional God called Yahweh, and He is
56:58
Speaker 2: what we understand today the God of the Old Testament,
57:00
Speaker 2: but He's not the same God of the New Testament.
57:05
Speaker 2: And He enslaved an ancient people, and was very angry
57:10
Speaker 2: and aggressive and violent and vicious and all those things,
57:14
Speaker 2: Jesus came to liberate humanity by revealing an inner path
57:20
Speaker 2: to genuine, shall we say, divinity. And of course, he
57:24
Speaker 2: was killed for it. The church, when I mentioned, I
57:27
Speaker 2: asked you about the Vatican, buried his secret there. Secret
57:33
Speaker 2: societies and, shall we say, governments have kept those communication
57:39
Speaker 2: techniques that Jesus taught for themselves. And that kind of dark,
57:45
Speaker 2: overarching power that has grown over the centuries has become
57:51
Speaker 2: centered around the state of Israel.
57:55
Speaker 3: Yes, the first part was very good. And Israel, of course,
58:00
Speaker 3: they will have or they want the world government there,
58:04
Speaker 3: but it's not so much the location Israel. It's the people,
58:09
Speaker 3: you know, the Kabbalists. It's not so much, you know,
58:13
Speaker 3: and they don't care, frankly. They don't care. It's Israel.
58:16
Speaker 3: They just want to.
58:17
Speaker 1: Rule the world.
58:17
Speaker 2: They don't really care for it. So if Israel doesn't exist,
58:21
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter that one world government will still, they'll
58:25
Speaker 2: attempt to impose that one world government.
58:29
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah. And there's also maybe, I know you want
58:34
Speaker 3: to end, but there is also always a fight within
58:37
Speaker 3: the mafia. So the transhumanism is already in the Kabbalah
58:42
Speaker 3: via the story of the golem. But you have a
58:44
Speaker 3: new kind of people. For example, maybe Elon Musk doesn't
58:49
Speaker 3: believe in any of that. He says he's agnostic. I
58:51
Speaker 3: don't know if it's true. You never know. But I
58:53
Speaker 3: think there is... There is this motive to control all
58:57
Speaker 3: the people without their religious stuff. They just want to
59:00
Speaker 3: control people. And there's a fight. And if the powers
59:03
Speaker 3: to be discover that we're all going to die or what,
59:08
Speaker 3: I think they have a problem here. I don't know
59:12
Speaker 3: how powerful the religious guys versus the just psychopaths are
59:18
Speaker 3: who just want to rule the world for their own reasons.
59:20
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's very hard to say.
59:23
Speaker 3: For example, Freemasonry in itself, the I think also was
59:28
Speaker 3: taken because Freemasonry in the beginnings were very much against collectivism.
59:35
Speaker 3: And that's why the U.S. Constitution is so freedom-loving. So
59:41
Speaker 3: there was also a kind of takeover. So there are
59:45
Speaker 3: always people who want to rule everybody, but they do
59:48
Speaker 3: not necessarily have their religious background.
59:53
Speaker 2: How powerful is the Roman Catholic Church, the Vatican, the Pope?
59:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there are many that say they are in
1:00:03
Speaker 3: the center of this. I think that's a total destruction
1:00:08
Speaker 3: of my... Okay, my thing is full. I hope it
1:00:11
Speaker 3: still works. It's destruction of the real power, which are
1:00:15
Speaker 3: the Kabbalists. I mean, it's not Catholic donors who finance
1:00:20
Speaker 3: both sides. It's APEC, you know? So I don't think
1:00:25
Speaker 3: that the Vatican has much power anymore. I mean, the
1:00:28
Speaker 3: Jesuits were mostly converted Jews in the beginning. That's also interesting, yeah. And, yeah,
1:00:36
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one class of psychopaths, you know, who
1:00:40
Speaker 3: are all in these secret societies. I mean, the Vatican
1:00:43
Speaker 3: keeps a lot of secrets. It officially has a secret archive,
1:00:46
Speaker 3: which is a joke. And Freemasons really went against the
1:00:50
Speaker 3: Catholic Church at one time. I also have that in
1:00:52
Speaker 3: my book, so it's a little bit more complicated. But
1:00:55
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Vatican. It's like, I don't
1:00:58
Speaker 3: think so.
1:00:59
Speaker 2: Okay. Oliver, how can I follow your work?
1:01:04
Speaker 3: On X, Oliver Janich. If it's in English, Telegram is
1:01:08
Speaker 3: mostly German. So the best thing is to follow me
1:01:10
Speaker 3: on X and buy my books. The Open Secret is
1:01:14
Speaker 3: the name.
1:01:15
Speaker 2: And also you're on Substack.
1:01:18
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm also on Substack. But you see everything on X.
1:01:21
Speaker 3: That's why that's the easiest thing. And all my Substack
1:01:24
Speaker 3: articles are for free. So I just put it there
1:01:26
Speaker 3: because They took my website and then I said I
1:01:29
Speaker 3: put it on Substack. All right.
1:01:31
Speaker 2: Oliver Janik, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
1:01:35
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.