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- 0:00SPEAKER_03: In this episode, we're joined by a special guest, Floris Votelbour.
- 0:04SPEAKER_03: We are talking all things FIFA cards.
- 0:06SPEAKER_03: We're going to bring them back and also do a few more little bits.
- 0:10SPEAKER_03: And obviously, in the coop with Yupe makes another appearance.
- 0:14SPEAKER_03: It's all next.
- 0:27SPEAKER_03: It's episode five.
- 0:28SPEAKER_03: We've got a very special guest.
- 0:38SPEAKER_01: I'm good, guys.
- 0:39SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
- 0:39SPEAKER_01: I'm really privileged to uh to join the the podcast.
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: Let's stick together.
- 0:44SPEAKER_01: So uh looking forward.
- 0:47SPEAKER_03: Um, how are you?
- 0:48SPEAKER_03: Because you you you excited you got your boot on?
- 0:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah, really excited.
- 0:53SPEAKER_02: Like uh people who know me and Wattall together know that we have uh we we've known each other, I think, for over 15 years or something.
- 1:03SPEAKER_02: Um, and we have a we're like best mates, but we can also be like worst enemies when we're together for a long time.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: He's the one guy, like I'm uh I Flaws to give you a little intel, I was the one who brought uh on the closet, which is not a Dutch say uh an English saying, I brought it to Let's Stick together.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: It's now a saying in England, it's officially in the dictionary there because of me.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: Uh, he's Folks is the one who gets me on the closet quicker than uh the speed of light.
- 1:32SPEAKER_02: So have yourself an episode.
- 1:34SPEAKER_03: We were just talking about this because it's absolutely perfect.
- 1:37SPEAKER_03: Because, well, first of all, you did what all guests do, uh Vortl, and you you gave Brendan shit straight away.
- 1:43SPEAKER_03: And so that so instantly you're in with all of us.
- 1:46SPEAKER_03: And secondly, we have me and Brendan have the exact same relationship as you two, so so it's absolutely everything that you've just said.
- 1:52SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, like I'd say Brendan we we're the same, is that yeah, I'd say that's exactly right.
- 2:00SPEAKER_04: I'm not giving any more than that.
- 2:01SPEAKER_04: Are we how long have we known each other now?
- 2:03SPEAKER_04: We're um 23 years.
- 2:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you've pissed me off that entire time, so we're all good.
- 2:10SPEAKER_03: So, first of all, I'll I'll I'll I'll bring Vertel straight in.
- 2:15SPEAKER_03: How did you get on on the weekend?
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: Oh man, tough question.
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: I knew this question, I knew it's I knew this question was uh was coming, but next question.
- 2:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, actually, shit, shit.
- 2:29SPEAKER_03: Sorry, sorry, sorry.
- 2:31SPEAKER_03: Most unprofessional host and podcast.
- 2:34SPEAKER_03: I I haven't done an introduction at all.
- 2:36SPEAKER_03: I do an introduction for everyone.
- 2:37SPEAKER_03: I'm sorry, I'm gonna have to do it before we before I actually crack on because people might not know who you play for.
- 2:43SPEAKER_03: I mean, I'm sure many people do, but Bortel is a Dutch national team.
- 2:49SPEAKER_03: He has just recently come back from winning European gold with Yupe, who's told us obviously many, many times about how he won.
- 2:57SPEAKER_03: Um, he's a a very, very special defender, like multi-talented, basically has every uh skill set in the book.
- 3:04SPEAKER_03: He's currently and been playing for Blumendal, who have won the EHL way too many times.
- 3:09SPEAKER_03: I'm sure you've won it way too many times.
- 3:11SPEAKER_03: Um, just to make Yupe a bit jealous with that one as well.
- 3:14SPEAKER_03: But it's uh it is a privilege to have you on.
- 3:17SPEAKER_03: Thank you for coming on.
- 3:18SPEAKER_03: And now I can ask you because it's quite fun because Bloomendal are a bit too good, so it's kind of fun to ask you how you got on this weekend.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thanks, thanks, uh Phil, for the good words.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: Now, um, yeah, of course, uh it was it was a tough weekend for us.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: We played a double one, uh, we played uh two tough teams, uh HDM and HCC.
- 3:39SPEAKER_01: So uh now uh we started this uh this double weekend not not that good.
- 3:45SPEAKER_01: We we won against uh HCM, but uh we played uh yeah, we played shit, and uh in in the end we won uh 4-1.
- 3:55SPEAKER_01: Uh so um yeah, I think that was okay.
- 3:58SPEAKER_01: But uh against HGC we had the same plan as uh Orange Road had last uh last week.
- 4:03SPEAKER_01: Um but that plan uh didn't work out that well, so uh yeah, we we drew one one.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: So uh that was my weekend.
- 4:12SPEAKER_02: But you won 4-2, right?
- 4:13SPEAKER_02: I guess IDM.
- 4:15SPEAKER_01: 4-2, sorry, yeah.
- 4:17SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you you want to join.
- 4:20SPEAKER_03: I feel like you want to join in here somewhere.
- 4:22SPEAKER_03: Come on.
- 4:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm just it's the I think it's the first time in like five years that we won against a team uh Blumedau couldn't win against, which is like it almost feels like a victory.
- 4:34SPEAKER_02: That's new for you.
- 4:36SPEAKER_02: I do yeah, that's new for me.
- 4:37SPEAKER_02: I do think uh that um because we won 9-0 against Hagese, everyone now kind of underestimates them, and they still have like quite a few pretty solid players, like they're not a bad team, it's just like Hagese played, I think, their worst game in the last 10 years, and we played our best game in the last 10 years, so it's like it was a really bad coincidence.
- 4:57SPEAKER_02: So, but I think we kind of fucked uh Hagese uh for everyone else because they're actually quite decent.
- 5:04SPEAKER_03: And and just from the outside, for like we we saw obviously you you had three big losses last year in uh Glenn Sherman Tim Brendan.
- 5:13SPEAKER_03: Do you want to do do his name?
- 5:15SPEAKER_03: Jim Schwann.
- 5:19SPEAKER_03: And uh obviously, uh I'm not even gonna try and say his name, Bovendier.
- 5:24SPEAKER_03: Let's go with that.
- 5:26SPEAKER_03: Um, and you've you've obviously replaced them with world-class talent in like Morales and Zach Wallace, but them three guys are a huge loss.
- 5:33SPEAKER_03: Is it taking a little bit of time to like gel and stuff?
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: Yeah but do you think Zek and uh world-class?
- 5:40SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: But what do you think?
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: For sure they're world-class.
- 5:47SPEAKER_01: Now, of course, yeah, uh uh a lot of things changed.
- 5:51SPEAKER_01: Like uh, we of course we missed uh the the players like Glenn and Rue.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: They've played for Blumenau for uh for more than 10 years.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: Um really good players also in the team.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, uh like yeah, we we we got some some world-class players uh back, and yeah, we're a bit struggling, but for sure the the for sure will fit in the in the future and hopefully we'll will come uh next next couple of games.
- 6:21SPEAKER_03: I'm sure the cogs are gonna start turning.
- 6:23SPEAKER_03: I guess it's just nice that you can sit there smug for now.
- 6:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I I Phil, I've already told you last week.
- 6:30SPEAKER_02: I'm waiting for shit to go bad, like it's been going too well, and I'm I'm already normally with the rain road, we're already in crisis mode by now, and now we're actually doing fine.
- 6:42SPEAKER_02: So it's it takes some getting used to, but we're doing fine by now.
- 6:46SPEAKER_03: How is your double weekend?
- 6:48SPEAKER_02: Thanks for asking, Philip.
- 6:50SPEAKER_02: It was quite okay, it was pretty good.
- 6:53SPEAKER_02: Um, we won against Lara, which was actually no, it was actually now I think about it, it was pretty shit.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: We we won against Lara away on a Thursday night, which which is not a game you want to play on a Thursday night, which is actually not a game you want to play at all, Lara away.
- 7:08SPEAKER_02: Uh, but we got it, we got it over with.
- 7:11SPEAKER_02: We we were 4-0 up at half time.
- 7:13SPEAKER_02: Uh, we're in a bit of a situ um situation as against Hagas, which we didn't really know how to act because we were 4-0 up at halftime.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: We all looked at each other, like we entered the field and we were all looking at each other like, yeah, what did we say now to each other?
- 7:27SPEAKER_02: Like we're doing fine, which is like normally you need someone to like say it needs to be better or whatever, but it was quite good.
- 7:34SPEAKER_02: So we played really shit second half, and we got we won 5-1, and then we played Pinocchio, who and don't get me, I think Blumenao still has the most talent um in the Hof cluster, but I think Pinot K now is the best team in the Hove cluster.
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: It feels I feel like they don't play great hockey, but they they know exactly what they what they what everyone's supposed to do.
- 7:58SPEAKER_02: So if you look at like the 11 players on the field, you're not like like Van Aubel is world class, and then have some some like really solid players, good players, but you're not like okay, they're they're quality-wise better than uh Blumenau, uh, in my opinion.
- 8:12SPEAKER_02: But they all know exactly what to do, and they do that really, really well.
- 8:16SPEAKER_02: So, long story short, we lost 2-1.
- 8:19SPEAKER_02: We ended up with three points in the double weekend.
- 8:22SPEAKER_03: Nice.
- 8:23SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, I mean, the tra you're still second, that's pretty good.
- 8:28SPEAKER_03: The train rolls on.
- 8:29SPEAKER_03: Um, let's move on.
- 8:31SPEAKER_03: Other lanky management.
- 8:32SPEAKER_02: I wanna I want to ask what I got a lot of shit.
- 8:34SPEAKER_02: What okay?
- 8:35SPEAKER_02: You named three English teams.
- 8:39SPEAKER_01: Um, let's try.
- 8:41SPEAKER_01: Um Wimbledon, yeah, this one.
- 8:47SPEAKER_01: Give me a few seconds.
- 8:49SPEAKER_03: Um this is the power of English hockey in Holland.
- 8:56SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you say nothing than stupid, stupid other clubs.
- 9:00SPEAKER_01: So um Wimbledon?
- 9:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you ready?
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: Sorry, Phil.
- 9:07SPEAKER_03: That's okay.
- 9:08SPEAKER_03: That's okay.
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: I mean, for sure I I I knew more, but yeah, I'm I'm stressed now, so it's okay.
- 9:18SPEAKER_02: I named I named an Irish team, so but I know three rock rovers, and they I still believe that they're actually fucking with me and they actually play in England.
- 9:28SPEAKER_02: But how was how was your guys this weekend with with both Serbiton and Holmes?
- 9:34SPEAKER_01: Sherbon, of course, Sherton.
- 9:36SPEAKER_02: Of course, Sherberton.
- 9:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's the club of Brendan, I know.
- 9:39SPEAKER_04: Yeah, uh, you but I've actually I actually got sent a photo of you from Saturday night from one of the Pinake boys of you talking to the umpire for 30 minutes.
- 9:48SPEAKER_04: Uh did you not happy with the umpiring or was there an issue?
- 9:52SPEAKER_02: Or I actually I gave them a compliment.
- 9:56SPEAKER_02: I thought they did they did uh like my my bar is really really really really really low for them by now.
- 10:04SPEAKER_02: So I'm actually I'm like quite happy quite uh early.
- 10:07SPEAKER_02: Like if they do a decent job, I'm already I already think they did great.
- 10:11SPEAKER_02: So I gave the two guys a compliment.
- 10:13SPEAKER_02: As I said, I've I'm a changed man, I'm gonna give them a lot of compliments and say they do a good job.
- 10:17SPEAKER_02: They had they they only had like one or two fuck-ups, which is in my book a great game.
- 10:23SPEAKER_04: Okay, no, I they didn't say it wasn't a loaded, it was uh apparently you were with them for a while, so that's all very loaded.
- 10:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and again, are you with all your my uh one of my mates?
- 10:34SPEAKER_02: Just it's it's Draper, isn't it?
- 10:37SPEAKER_02: It's the only only great Britain guy.
- 10:40SPEAKER_02: You know, you don't you know no one else at the PK.
- 10:42SPEAKER_02: Just say Draper, man.
- 10:43SPEAKER_02: Come on, you're not that popular, man.
- 10:45SPEAKER_04: Come on, okay, worth a try.
- 10:47SPEAKER_04: Okay, uh thanks for asking how my weekend was.
- 10:50SPEAKER_04: You we played two mid-table sides, uh, we won 6-0 and 9-1, and I scored my first goal in seven years.
- 10:59SPEAKER_04: It's last one, and it was one of the worst goals to score, and I barely celebrated because it was so disappointing.
- 11:06SPEAKER_04: Um, but hey ho, you take a win, you take a goal.
- 11:09SPEAKER_04: Happy days, six points, and a lot of driving.
- 11:12SPEAKER_04: Yeah, good fun.
- 11:13SPEAKER_02: Might be a good time to to bring Woto back to your first goal you scored for uh England.
- 11:17SPEAKER_02: What happened then?
- 11:19SPEAKER_04: That's not, please.
- 11:22SPEAKER_04: Please, no, please not.
- 11:24SPEAKER_03: Well, he got how's your weekend?
- 11:26SPEAKER_03: Well, we can round that out.
- 11:27SPEAKER_03: Well done, Brendan.
- 11:28SPEAKER_03: You scored a goal, you scored many, you know.
- 11:31SPEAKER_03: Your team did really well, and just to let you know, when he scored his first Great Britain goal, he he went up and picked up our head coach and gave him a big hug.
- 11:39SPEAKER_03: It was lovely.
- 11:40SPEAKER_04: Picked him up like a baby, it was weird.
- 11:45SPEAKER_03: How'd you go on, Phil?
- 11:47SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we had a really up-down um weekend.
- 11:50SPEAKER_03: We played east Grinstead to start with, and we uh smashed them 7-1 and uh played really well.
- 11:57SPEAKER_03: It was it was great fun.
- 11:59SPEAKER_03: They've got this like uh we've talked about them before, they're called the EG Faithful, it's like their little fan base, um, and they just hand out chat.
- 12:08SPEAKER_03: I also got um chat to say go back to private school.
- 12:13SPEAKER_03: I've I've never been to private school.
- 12:15SPEAKER_03: Um, and also they shouts at me, what do we pay you for?
- 12:18SPEAKER_03: What do they pay you for when I missed a shot?
- 12:20SPEAKER_03: So I thought that's good chat as well.
- 12:22SPEAKER_03: Well done to them.
- 12:23SPEAKER_02: Um, I would Phil Phil earns a lot of money with Holcomb Football.
- 12:28SPEAKER_02: He's like he's a big, big money guy there.
- 12:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which wholecomb.
- 12:37SPEAKER_03: I'll give you, I'll give you a message after we'll sort it out.
- 12:42SPEAKER_01: My contract end uh is ending this season, so uh okay.
- 12:46SPEAKER_03: No rumors.
- 12:49SPEAKER_03: Um, my Sunday was different.
- 12:51SPEAKER_03: We played Wimbledon, yeah, and uh we lost 3-0 and we were absolutely terrible.
- 12:58SPEAKER_03: Um, it was it was YM1s where at halftime you try and go in and everyone's being like, This has got to be fucking better, and then you go out in the second half and nothing gets better.
- 13:08SPEAKER_02: So one of the best ones, one of the best.
- 13:12SPEAKER_03: Uh sorry, I'm gonna do an a youpe very quickly and do some umpire chat because I had one of the most amazingly infuriating conversations with an umpire over the weekend.
- 13:21SPEAKER_03: Someone had a they they won a corner, then they the umpire gave the advantage and then they had a shot, right?
- 13:29SPEAKER_03: They missed the shot and then he gave the corner still.
- 13:32SPEAKER_03: So I said to the umpire on the halfway line, I don't think you can do that.
- 13:36SPEAKER_03: Like he's he's had the advantage, they've had the shot, you can't then go back.
- 13:41SPEAKER_03: Can you ask him about it?
- 13:42SPEAKER_03: And he's like, No, no, and I was just ask him, like, see see what he says.
- 13:47SPEAKER_03: And so he just got on the radio and he went, Are you happy with your decision?
- 13:52SPEAKER_03: And the um other umpire went, Yes, I am, and then he said, There you go, done.
- 14:01SPEAKER_03: And I was like, That was I think I said to him, I think he could have worded it better, and then walked off.
- 14:07SPEAKER_03: That's such a sassy response.
- 14:10SPEAKER_03: So we should definitely start like another segment called Umpires Corner or something where we just bitch about umpires because it'd be pretty solid.
- 14:18SPEAKER_01: It's not gonna be maybe you can invite one.
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: Brendan knows a lot of umpires, so Brendan.
- 14:24SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, we're going there.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: Brendan's been on a on an umpire podcast, right?
- 14:30SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I have actually, to be fair.
- 14:31SPEAKER_04: We could actually get probably get an umpire on at some point.
- 14:33SPEAKER_04: That would actually be quite entertaining, just to kind of uh maybe uh maybe an umpire's retired that might work better than a than a current umpire because that's not gonna help us.
- 14:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah, maybe maybe not if I had an umpire.
- 14:47SPEAKER_03: Right, let's get back to we'll do um a tiny bit of news and then we'll get onto the FIFA cards.
- 14:54SPEAKER_03: Okay, first of all, there's been another move of the Olympic qualifier.
- 14:59SPEAKER_03: The Chinese, the women's one was meant to be in China, it's now in India, so um have fun to any of the women heading out to India.
- 15:07SPEAKER_03: Um, FIH have officially recognized beach hockey as an organization and a sport.
- 15:12SPEAKER_03: What do you guys think?
- 15:15SPEAKER_04: Anything's better than hockey, anything's better than hockey fives, so yeah, I'm all for it.
- 15:19SPEAKER_01: I've I've played uh uh a beach hockey tournament in uh Germany a few years ago.
- 15:25SPEAKER_01: It was it was just for fun, but it was it was amazing.
- 15:29SPEAKER_01: Really?
- 15:30SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we've been there with uh Florian Fuchs, uh Glenn Schumann, um Cherry Bringman.
- 15:38SPEAKER_01: No, both was not there.
- 15:39SPEAKER_01: Um but it yeah, it was sick.
- 15:42SPEAKER_01: There was like a whole stadium built around the pitch, and yeah, we were we were the I think we were in the car for six hours, um came came on the pitch, um, and everyone was like expecting a lot from us, but we played so shit.
- 15:58SPEAKER_01: We've never played beach hockey, but the experience was good and the nights were were better, so um yeah, I think it's it's a good decision from the FAH.
- 16:08SPEAKER_03: Wow, well, that is not how I expected that conversation to go.
- 16:12SPEAKER_03: Sounds like some team that went a fucking unreal team.
- 16:20SPEAKER_02: That's like a dream five aside team.
- 16:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, they expected they expected a lot from us, but no.
- 16:26SPEAKER_03: How do you play?
- 16:27SPEAKER_03: Like, is there any specific rules, or are you just uh no?
- 16:31SPEAKER_01: It's already four years ago, but it's it's growing.
- 16:35SPEAKER_01: It's great.
- 16:36SPEAKER_03: Okay, fair enough.
- 16:37SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, colour me intrigued.
- 16:40SPEAKER_03: Well done, FIH.
- 16:42SPEAKER_04: I've never said that before.
- 16:43SPEAKER_04: That is one of the oldest sayings.
- 16:45SPEAKER_04: You sound so old right now.
- 16:49SPEAKER_03: Oh well, right.
- 16:50SPEAKER_03: Last last question before we go on to FIFA cards.
- 16:53SPEAKER_03: Um, again, but I'm gonna put you on the spot.
- 16:57SPEAKER_03: Um we've talked a little bit about the Dutch women on this podcast and why they're so good.
- 17:02SPEAKER_03: Now, we have you're on the inside of this, you actually go out with one of the women's players, Sandy Kulin.
- 17:09SPEAKER_03: Um, does she ever reveal any of the secrets to you as to why they're so good?
- 17:14SPEAKER_03: And uh it's a bit of a weird question, but go with it.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: No, yeah, no, we're not talking about hockey all the time, but um, yeah, they they they they last years they played they played so good, they they won like everything they they they can win.
- 17:33SPEAKER_01: So um yeah, I think also the the the the the teams they play against are yeah not on the not on the same level, but uh no they they're doing really good.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: But um yeah I'm I don't know all the insights about uh the ladies hockey team.
- 17:50SPEAKER_01: Um so what do you want, Phil?
- 17:53SPEAKER_01: What's your insights?
- 17:55SPEAKER_03: You looks like he wants to ask something, but I'll I'll leave it to him for a second.
- 17:59SPEAKER_02: Nothing just uh no, I just love the way you you pronounced um Sonicola, Sonny, Sonny Kulin.
- 18:06SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's Brendan.
- 18:07SPEAKER_02: Don't you amaze me?
- 18:09SPEAKER_03: Don't laugh like you knew, Brendan.
- 18:12SPEAKER_04: No, to clarify, I was just watching Yupe's face the whole time, and he just started laughing and it set me off.
- 18:16SPEAKER_04: That's all.
- 18:18SPEAKER_02: I think I I I think we we already discussed, and I think Woto kind of agrees that the Dutch women are on a whole nother level.
- 18:26SPEAKER_02: That um and the best the best anecdote was the one that that the coach said, Yeah, if if they are going to defend and will attack, it will end up 2-0.
- 18:38SPEAKER_02: And everyone got really rattled right before the what uh European cup final.
- 18:42SPEAKER_02: Everyone was like, Oh, he's so arrogant, and then they exactly what he said happened, and it ended up being 2-0.
- 18:48SPEAKER_02: Like that summarizes where uh the Dutch women are at right now.
- 18:53SPEAKER_03: Fair enough.
- 18:54SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was just checking there wasn't any, you know, good good.
- 18:57SPEAKER_03: Like, I mean, uh, does she ever come home and she's like I'm bored of winning?
- 19:00SPEAKER_03: Because that must be a fucking great place to be.
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: No, no, she's she never comes home about both winning, but yeah, for no, but yeah, it's it's it's getting normal.
- 19:15SPEAKER_01: Like uh if if we won't win something, uh yeah, you've seen it last summer, guys.
- 19:20SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, that the uh sorry about that, but no, um uh that's that's way more special, uh I think.
- 19:29SPEAKER_01: But uh yeah, they they're doing really good.
- 19:32SPEAKER_01: Uh and especially if you win like all gold medals at at World Cups, European Cup, and it's still special.
- 19:40SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, no, I I think you don't get bored.
- 19:44SPEAKER_03: That's fair, right?
- 19:46SPEAKER_01: But but I can ask her, she's she's she's downstairs.
- 19:51SPEAKER_03: You asked me you can get but get back to us.
- 19:54SPEAKER_02: Did she did does she this did she keep her gold medal from your bean cup?
- 19:59SPEAKER_02: Because it's like or was it like there and gave it away to a to a grandma?
- 20:05SPEAKER_04: She puts mugs on it, I reckon.
- 20:07SPEAKER_04: It's like a little like coaster or something.
- 20:13SPEAKER_03: Right.
- 20:14SPEAKER_03: FIFA cards, we're there.
- 20:15SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna actually put Brendan in charge of we're gonna do so.
- 20:18SPEAKER_03: We've all done each other's, but also we're gonna do Virtals first.
- 20:22SPEAKER_03: So, Brendan, do you want to do that first?
- 20:23SPEAKER_03: You're feel free, you can argue them, you can say if you think you're better or worse.
- 20:27SPEAKER_03: Um, the more insults towards us, the better.
- 20:30SPEAKER_03: Um, Brendan had the final say, so insults go mainly towards him.
- 20:36SPEAKER_04: To clarify, I took an average of R three ratings, and that was the easiest way to do it because I thought that made most sense.
- 20:43SPEAKER_04: So we went pace 83, shooting 75, passing 87, dribbling 87, defending 81, and physical 81 with an overall rating of 86.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: That's quite good.
- 21:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, also we it's like FIFA, right?
- 21:05SPEAKER_02: So it's Phil said it's like if if you like the best players in the world, like the best of the best, so like Messi and Ronaldo for a long time, they were like 91, 92, in between 91, 93, or something, right?
- 21:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's like the bar.
- 21:20SPEAKER_01: Okay, no, no, uh, it's it's a brilliant card, Brendan.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: Thanks for that.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: But I thought you you know me quite well, but 81 for defensive skills, it's it's quite high.
- 21:32SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I was gonna chime in there because I I glided past you in that European final, and that was easy.
- 21:40SPEAKER_01: You're not the only one.
- 21:45SPEAKER_03: No, but then I actually did remember, like jokes aside, that I thought you might have argued your pace a little bit more because I also remember chasing after you last year in Argentina and thinking 81 pace, I reckon it might be slightly higher than that.
- 21:58unknown: You like.
- 22:00SPEAKER_02: a long is if it's in a long uh long distance it's yeah it's not that high I think 83 for pace but what's like what's the average what's your pace Brendan then then I uh we'll find we'll we'll find no Brendan's pace got up after the block on the on the then we saw Brendan at full speed it doesn't doesn't look impressive but it's it's it's effective it's effective yeah it's not something I pride myself on so I'm okay with being slow no I think I think he's like um he's like a locomotive like a train he's a bit maybe even like a diesel like I don't think his first few steps are are like the quickest but once he gets rolling it's like a thing coming at you you don't want to get in the way of that so it and he's he's like in Dutch we say uh he's like a valse sneller so he's like he's like quick but you don't notice that he's quick I think that's right.
- 23:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah I do remember very specifically in Argentina last year for some reason you me and you had this one-on-one over 80 yards and you had the ball at right half and you just pushed it and ran and it was the most miserable 80 yards I've ever had to run I was like why is he this fast and why does he keep running this way do you think it's do you think it's because he's bigger that it looks that it doesn't look as quick do you want me isn't like because you're like you're too you you're tall you're not big you're tall are you calling him fed Brendan no that's not done we describe it as built and it's not on the card you're strong and tall that's that's what that's what's class that's why your physical is quite low on mine you that's all yeah get off his cock i i think i think his pace is like 83 i think that's these like he's not the quickest in the world but he has a good pace he can go past defenders he's he's strong like the shot for me i think he has a really good shot but he doesn't come in the position to shoot a lot yeah he has a good back end a good like if he's what was main focus is probably focus is our main problem is focus when he lacks focus uh his shot probably goes to worse like it could be a 99 for all we know but he just is not really focused on it no don't tell them too much that we we we're gonna play against them next year so this is like some kind of it's certainly turned some psychology session then you yeah i'm i'm really enjoying the fact i'm really enjoying that eric verbooms joined the call i'm enjoying that the Dutch assistants decided to join on and give some critique i'm enjoying this no but i i agree you yeah that's what i want to do i also think you have to take that into consideration if you don't like i'm actually i'm not very good at shooting but if i shoot a lot then my ratings like people probably see me shoot so they think it's gonna go up if you shoot like once or twice every five games people aren't gonna give you a good rating are they yeah true that's yeah yeah that's people never saw me with my shirt off so that's why I get a 12 for right who wants to go next I've done Brendan Brendan's done you've done me who I want to give one more quote about what all though okay I got from I got from Matthew else about his FIFA card or are we completely done with the FIFA card of Wutl or like no right no if you want to care if you want to if you want to carry on arguing if you want to carry on cracking on you go on yeah well Matthew else like avid listener of the podcast he he he gave another because I discussed what was rating with him a bit I said like what is what was rating for this for this for that and then he said you should add one that's untapped potential which is a 99 has the most feeling and has like the best build there is just doesn't care too much to work on it as much as he should like to give you some intel voto does everything he needs to do he's really like he's a he's a he is he he is a really good athlete he just he he really picks his spots and what he thinks is important.
- 26:06SPEAKER_02: So we once had a priming session in in Spain and Matt Matt asked what's behind him but he didn't notice and then he said to someone hey mate you don't get a medal for priming to which to which Matt looked at him like oh fucking Watt all that this is I want to get everyone enthusiastic about priming and I get them to do shit and then what was their call just take the people that they didn't need to take care of because they don't get a medal for it.
- 26:33SPEAKER_03: No no we have to take care of our priming but you don't get a medal for it I think that's the best insult ever for an SSC coach.
- 26:42SPEAKER_03: Yeah I agree just just it's the way to make them feel like it really doesn't matter what you're telling me right now I'm gonna use it thank you yeah yeah I thought it was a great great quote I really loved it but thanks to Matt so do you reckon we can we can you're happy with that we can we can print that card yeah you're you're you're proud of that card yeah I'm proud of it I I think 81 for for my my physical i'm i'm a bit lucky about that but um yeah I had some some some shit injury injuries uh with my shoulder and some problems physically but the last three years um it's going very well so uh I think it was it was not 81 but from this moment uh I'm proud of 81 so I think the the the card and the average of 86 is quite good.
- 27:35SPEAKER_03: Nice you know if we were way more professional we could like print off a big card send it to Morton have him stand with it like this and then we could do that with everyone we get that'd be awesome.
- 27:45SPEAKER_02: I mean we're not that professional and Brendan don't get your hopes up anyone don't get your hopes up Little won't happen right I'll hand it to Brennan what who what do you want to do Brent do you want to have your ratings do you want to do someone else's uh I'm quite happy to do you're gonna speed eighty seven shooting seventy three a bit high I feel for that but we'll let it slide that's high passing eighty eight dribble eighty three defending eighty three yeah go on physicality and physical sorry uh 24 no I gave you seven I gave you 75 physical Brendan that is the most sucky up card I've ever heard well do you know what Phil I actually when you when we had the discussion I was like actually I'm gonna do this properly I'm not gonna actually mess around here I'm gonna be serious about it so I'm I'm nervous because if you're saying that you've gone very critical over me at that moment I think I think you did a great great job I I feel like you you're you were being modest to watch a good friend on the let's stick together show you didn't uh exaggerate it was like it was I think it was a bit on the low side a lot but I think it's decent what's my overall rating 85 here he goes 85 or 85 my score Brendan second what was my score uh 86 yeah 86 yeah yeah thanks you only gave me 87s this year then now I get an 85 yeah Brendan that makes no sense hold on no I gave him 83s and then a 75 so it's so it rounds out to about 85 on average it's not an average I don't think that's no I know Phil I gave him passing 88 speed 87 dribble 83 defending 83 also even so so what's what's your issue so I've met it in the middle what's your pro oh sorry I'll give him what 94 no there's not not a one stage is that even close I've given him exactly I gotta be honest Brendan I gotta be honest I think 85 is a is a is a is uh on the high side or like good like I'm I'm I'm very happy with 85 I'll skip past the fact uh that what was an 86 and you actually think what was a better hockey player than me but uh let's leave that to that um do you just out of interest did you get a quote about untapped potential from Matty just out of interest yeah I I I think I'm a I'm with this body I'm doing more than I should be able to do so I think that's that's what I Phil looks really annoyed yeah either Phil's frozen or he's fuming right now is one of the two no I'm just trying to wait for you to shut up so I can bring because I reckon Vodal's standing there waiting to weigh in on your fucking card dupe okay go to um no I think 80 85 is is is way too high but um oh but especially the the defensive skill what was the score Brendan for Dave 83 defending 80 83 yeah i like i'm curious about his score about uh uh defense two years ago it was maybe like 22 or something like that but he made big he made he made big steps so um i'm proud of you about that you um you you start you start trapping balls with your with your glove so um it's amazing um and like the um the the one the the dribbling what was the score i gave him 83 again he seems to find his way out of situations so i gave him 83 yeah i i i think i think that that could be higher but yeah if you if you i think you is the the the most difficult player to press uh i'm sure about that so um there you i was also gonna say the same thing i actually thought you sc you rated him low on the dribble like if you're talking about what his reference is for dribbling youight because i'm being nice because you you actually his skill set isn't to be get the ball as a forward and dribble past people his skill set is to run past people at pace and then still pick a pass and actually he's really really good at that so I know I but I've gone on like dribble as in like FIFA style dribble rather than how effective he is in game do you know what I mean we don't play fucking football mate no my point is is if you play FIFA some cards that are like 78 are more effective than some cards rated 84 I'm not saying he's bad I'm just saying that's what I've that's what I've gone with like I'm enjoying this though because I feel like I'm getting some heat of you you've got people standing up for you at the moment this yeah yeah I I want to say that I love it it makes me a bit emotional to be honest no i'll be honest also I'll tell you this I think because I gave I get um for me dribbling is like a Florent von Alb I hates to say I hate to say this like Phil Roper guys who can actually and that's why Wattles also high it's like uh the like the inside drag is Jorid Krohn's uh uh Jonas the ghost like guys who can eliminate like my and I'll let you in on a big secret I'm not a greater dribbler I just make one body fake and I run around it that's like my signature move works only on the right side can do it on the left that's my like I'm not the most skillful I think 83 is a bit I don't think that was the biggest secret ever just to let you know oh fuck you Phil I just gave you credit let's take a break yeah we'll be back with mine and you've ratings join us again okay you p which way do you want to go around I'll do your card Phil we can save best for last um so I went I'll give my genuine ratings what I what I thought before I like I knew what Brendan gave to me if I had your pace at an 85 I think you're I think hold on with the he already thinks it's too it's too high okay I think I think it's 85 but maybe it's also like you can run but now that I know what was 83 I think you're like also 83 but I gave you an 85 see how nice I am I gave your shot an 83 and I was kind of like going going back and forth with that one I I I landed on 88 and landed on 79 and I ended up with 83 like your back end is really good but you hit your forehead like a seven year old goal every once in a while so that's why I couldn't go like it's not consistent enough that's why I couldn't go with higher than 83 I gave yeah passing I thought was really difficult because again I've said it this multiple times you never pass so how can I rate it you sometimes give like this small little passes over five yards uh so I gave you a 61 for passing but no hold on hold on because I'm I gave you for dribbling I gave you a 94 because I think yeah because I think you have one of the best inside dribbles you it looks like you have like glue to your stick you have one of the best inside dribbles and you can you we had like this moment at Orange Road that even Robert van Horst our coach said just give Phil the ball when when pressure gets on because he never loses it so I gave you a 94 there then on defense I gave you a 12 which which is also for last year because you gave my physicality a 12 so fuck you back at you Phil and you have to defend every once in a while to also get a rating for it and physicality I gave you actually an 85 you're a handsome handsome young fella with a good body Phil so you should you get an 85 and your all round rating I gave an 86 which is the same as Wottol um which up until now makes me the uh worst out of this group so give me don't worry give it time so I don't know where to I don't know where to start um I actually agree with the first two they're fine no problem I think probably high on the pa on the pace I think it like like um I'm the opposite to Virtual where like it looks fast but it's not fast.
- 36:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's that's maybe the thing you you're deceivingly fast deceivingly slow.
- 36:27SPEAKER_03: Yeah yeah like maybe the legs look quick but then you move quickly but you don't go quickly none of that's correct English yeah that is that is that is so correct um I'm obviously gonna argue the same point I argued two years ago everything else is fine I just I I I can't help but feel I'm a better passer than I'm getting given maybe you just need to do it more Phil look the stats the stats don't buy i'm i'm i've done seven assists in six games this year we have a statistician at Holcomb so sometimes sometimes I look in the mirror with my shirt off and I think you don't look that bad you actually have a quite decent body but then everyone else tells me I'm a lanky fucker so maybe you should stop thinking about it yourself just ask us a route you never the the the longest pass I've seen you give is like a 10-yard push ball you don't slap it you don't hit it you don't like and you have to every once in a while you have to give the ball to someone else to get a rating for passing fill that's all right well I'll take that feedback on board I'll try and do what I you know what it I'll change it to 69 there you go I'm convinced lots lots lots lots lots lots lots lots there you go 69 you want to talk about defense because you would you agree actually on your 12 look you know what i've i've made my bed i i was a terrible defender for probably more than eight years i can't i can't that's not gonna leave me now it's just what i'm gonna have to deal with so if you think that's the really bad i'll just have to crack on again do what i can with it all i do is trying to motivate you feel yeah trying to make you a better person and a better player 86 is pretty decent overall though yeah i want to say i'm are you actually one better than me you're the same as the fucking waterbourg like a legend in the game so i'll take that what do you think what do you think what you've you you like you you face him way more than i do because he's on the left you're on the right like you face a lot now i think um yeah i think phil is one one of the most comp like most complete and skillful players um from england no no no no um no but i think the the the skills of uh of of phil are are uh really good and you can also combine it with his with his power and uh and speed uh so i think the average of 86 is uh yeah is is good and um yeah you i think i think the the the best thing of of your way of style or style of playing is like you're really complete about it i said it appreciated i'd i i argue the physical bit personally phs part of the old man club on a tuesday which means he doesn't train twice because he's physically weak so I'm not giving Phil the satisfaction of being physical that high however most of the card I'd agree with and the overall I'd a hundred percent agree with annoyingly just to clarify I'm not physically weak I've got a gammy knee yeah that's physically weak Phil you are not physically fit your knee your knee I i i heard a story about Zach it's not about you guys but I heard about a story about um aims that um maybe he's the the physically the worst player from from England but he doesn't play club hockey it's crazy he's he's Phil's he's Phil's coach but I've never heard a a player who plays for the national team and doesn't play club hockey yeah well yeah Volta what we'll do is we'll sit you down with our physio and our SNC and then you'll understand why that that man is prepping hard for everything maybe that is mental because because you break it down and he doesn't eat he just trains and never plays until he gets to a tournament or a trip which when you say it like that is actually mental isn't it so is this the first time you've you've actually thought about that because I've been it's been on my mind quite quite a while that I that I think it's it's unreal and that you can still be that good at hockey that well you never play again I think that's what's the most like impressive bit is the fact that he's still so good despite having that is obviously a bit of a a bit of a problem he's overrated that's oh I'm really curious about this one right okay Brendan's ratings they've gone up since they they must have gone up since European Cup.
- 41:24SPEAKER_03: Right this this I did uh Brendan I did this genuinely I am nervous when you say things like that right pace 71 okay I think that's high but go on do I explain each one or do we do we move it on just first tell everything and then okay shot 65 um passing 88 dribble 34 defensive 84 physical 88 overall 84 now just so I can so I can break it down a little bit.
- 42:05SPEAKER_03: The pace 71 you're an oil tanker we all know it it's basically like it's it's you're actually quite fast but when you know if if if push comes to shove your turning is not good.
- 42:16SPEAKER_03: Okay no you can't no no no no can I just argue that hey speed is literally acceleration and sprint speed it's nothing to do with turning that comes under the physical bit well I decided against that okay cool carry on uh shot 65 i i factored in the mentals here so if if if Brennan has a chance to shoot he often doesn't shoot so actually your shooting is pretty good but what takes it away is your inability to want to shoot.
- 42:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah shall we find a clip from last week's training session where I have an open goal and pass to you who is completely marked should we put that in at some point yeah that'd be pretty good that's a great example passing 88 I think speaks for itself I think your range of passing is really good but I don't want to go too far on that one.
- 43:01SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
- 43:02SPEAKER_03: No we know we we all know about that.
- 43:05SPEAKER_03: The dribble 34 um yeah again if we're comparing you to like a Van Arble I think that's probably fair.
- 43:15SPEAKER_04: I'd like to be over 50 but that but hey ho you you can win some you lose some what do you guys think what was it 34?
- 43:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah yeah I want to say that's about right maybe on the highest sounds about right that 83 that I gave you is looking really really dodgy right now.
- 43:37SPEAKER_04: Mate I have insane uh I think Fonalbo's jealous of my skills what's really disappointing is I want it to be higher but I genuinely think if you gave me a dribble challenge it would come out roughly around 34.
- 43:48SPEAKER_01: That's what makes me nervous you're also not in the same you're in the same position as Fonalbo Brennan yeah exactly uh I just want to win a free hit Good.
- 44:00SPEAKER_04: That's all I want.
- 44:01SPEAKER_04: That's all I want.
- 44:03SPEAKER_03: Um your defense 84.
- 44:06SPEAKER_03: I think that was fair.
- 44:07SPEAKER_03: I think now you've learned to basically like use your body and whack people about a bit.
- 44:11SPEAKER_03: I think that works for you.
- 44:13SPEAKER_02: So I do I do want to disagree on this one because I think that's on the low side.
- 44:18SPEAKER_02: I don't agree.
- 44:19SPEAKER_02: If you look at Brendan's like USPs, I think it's his passing with like the high ball, the slap, and the whole shebang shbang.
- 44:29SPEAKER_02: And I think the the uh his defense, he's he's tough to to to to get around.
- 44:36SPEAKER_02: Like have you seen his block at the European Cup?
- 44:39SPEAKER_02: Gained over 140 followers by it.
- 44:42SPEAKER_02: That's defending at its peak.
- 44:44SPEAKER_03: That is fair.
- 44:45SPEAKER_03: That is fair.
- 44:46SPEAKER_03: I didn't take the block into account.
- 44:48SPEAKER_04: The block has at least like uh two points.
- 44:51SPEAKER_04: I rated myself lower on the defending, so I'll take an 84 quite happily.
- 44:56SPEAKER_03: Okay, and then physical 88, and that kind of lent into the defending stuff.
- 45:00SPEAKER_03: Like you you basically how probably a fullback's meant to be built, aren't you?
- 45:05SPEAKER_03: You're a big bastard.
- 45:06SPEAKER_04: Is this because we had a little like hissy fit the other week?
- 45:09SPEAKER_04: Is this why?
- 45:10SPEAKER_04: What do you mean?
- 45:11SPEAKER_04: Or is it mean you had a little shoving contest?
- 45:13SPEAKER_04: Obviously, you know, but you push me to the floor, but like I kicked the shit out of you, so we're fine.
- 45:18SPEAKER_04: No, you tripped me up.
- 45:19SPEAKER_04: You didn't kick the shit out of me, you tripped me up.
- 45:23SPEAKER_04: Oh bitch.
- 45:24SPEAKER_04: So overall 84.
- 45:26SPEAKER_04: Happy?
- 45:26SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I gave myself an 82 overall, so I will take an 84.
- 45:30SPEAKER_04: Yes, 100% happy.
- 45:32SPEAKER_04: And you you are now safe as 85, you are not the worst on the pod, you are fine.
- 45:37SPEAKER_02: I gave myself an 89, so I'm quite disappointed.
- 45:40SPEAKER_02: But that's let's move on.
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: I think but but but to end up with some some positive words about Brandon, because it was quite negative film.
- 45:51SPEAKER_01: Um, no, I think that the the the best quality of Brendan is to like to read the play, and uh especially at this position, central defense.
- 46:01SPEAKER_01: Um I think he's he's one of the best uh in that.
- 46:05SPEAKER_01: So um I think that's uh especially at your position, it's quite quite a good uh quality.
- 46:11SPEAKER_03: Just to let you know, that's not how we do things here.
- 46:14SPEAKER_04: If I'm if I'm negative, we go with the negativity, we knock people down and we never build them back up.
- 46:20SPEAKER_03: No, that's that is that is completely fair.
- 46:22SPEAKER_03: Fair enough.
- 46:23SPEAKER_03: It's just hard, you know.
- 46:24SPEAKER_03: Like if I asked you to compliment you, would you be able to do it?
- 46:28SPEAKER_03: No, no, we actually want to do this a little bit more.
- 46:34SPEAKER_03: So um if you want us to do it, we we're gonna try and do a FIFA card every week.
- 46:39SPEAKER_03: So we might ask Brendan, might put it out on socials to see who you want us to actually rate, who you want us to do a FIFA card for, and we'll try and maybe do a little segment each week where we discuss it.
- 46:48SPEAKER_02: Um let's let's start let's start with Woto nominating the the next FIFA card.
- 46:53SPEAKER_02: Oh Woto can can decide who he wants to have to have rated by three three fuck ups who are quite shit themselves, give themselves some high ratings so they feel better about themselves and then actually tear other people down.
- 47:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm curious about the card of uh Cherry, but I can also name an English player if you want.
- 47:13SPEAKER_04: No, any any nation, any nation, any nation.
- 47:17SPEAKER_01: Uh but I think I think you have to to to give him some some positive things and and to to bring him in a good vibe.
- 47:26SPEAKER_03: Um, but oh no, we're positive about other people, don't worry about that.
- 47:29SPEAKER_03: That's fine.
- 47:30SPEAKER_02: Oh, other people, we just best each other.
- 47:35SPEAKER_03: Last week we obviously had a conversation who would win out of 11 portals against 11 semi-vanasses.
- 47:43SPEAKER_03: Um, did you did you see that?
- 47:45SPEAKER_03: And do you want to weigh in?
- 47:46SPEAKER_03: Like, do you what do you think?
- 47:48SPEAKER_03: Do you agree that Brendan's pick of you was like a solid pick?
- 47:52SPEAKER_01: I was proud about it, but if you put me like me as a player in the back four on every position, you have I think you have a big problem.
- 48:03SPEAKER_01: But um no, I I'm I'm quite a good goalkeeper, I think.
- 48:07SPEAKER_01: I've I've done it a few times when I was young, uh, together with you, uh, but still long time ago.
- 48:14SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I I I was proud about uh about the crowd, Brendan.
- 48:21SPEAKER_01: But I think it's not a good idea to put me on every position.
- 48:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you have to imagine.
- 48:26SPEAKER_02: I think you you are, I don't think it's a good idea to put any player on 11 positions, but you are one of the best worst people to put there, if that makes sense.
- 48:36SPEAKER_02: Like it's one of the worst compliments.
- 48:38SPEAKER_02: Imagine 11 imagine 11 Phil Ropers or 11 Brandon Creese on the field, total mayhem.
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: So what Phil's went went the way of Sevi Vanas 11 times, which which would be the the most beautiful thing to watch at, except when they don't have the ball, which is like 50% of the time, versus 11 floors waterboards, and he and and uh Phil Phil thought 11 uh Sevi Vanasis could actually score like eight goals, and I think they would actually concede 12.
- 49:10SPEAKER_01: So I you think you'd win?
- 49:14SPEAKER_01: I think it would be a nice game, but um I I think uh in the end in the end of the game I I win because because his like his technical skills are brilliant, but yeah, he doesn't defend.
- 49:28SPEAKER_01: So uh I think I will win the game.
- 49:32SPEAKER_03: I love it.
- 49:33SPEAKER_03: I had so many conversations this week about that topic, it was such a good topic, and also just just randomly at training at GB training last week.
- 49:42SPEAKER_03: We had a huge like 15-person discussion about who would win out of 11 Brendan Creed's and 11 Liam Sanfords, and um it was unanimously Sanford.
- 49:54SPEAKER_04: It it was unanimously Sanford until we started training, and then people some people started changing their mind, but it was still Sanford, yeah.
- 50:02SPEAKER_02: You see, this is what happens when we go in the coop.
- 50:05SPEAKER_02: Lovely sh lovely things happen.
- 50:07SPEAKER_02: That's that's that's the magic of the coop.
- 50:10SPEAKER_02: Do you know what the coop is, Wattle?
- 50:12SPEAKER_02: No, I I've seen it in the in the last podcast, but no.
- 50:17SPEAKER_02: The coop is a wonderful place.
- 50:20SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's it started last week.
- 50:24SPEAKER_02: It's actually the place where chickens live and me.
- 50:28SPEAKER_02: And I asked I'm the boss in the coop and I asked the questions, so they go pretty like um from left to right and up and down, and there's like a lot of different uh stuff.
- 50:42SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, let's start with um the first one.
- 50:48SPEAKER_02: Would you rather live for six months in Rujela or play with two gloves the rest of your career?
- 50:57SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
- 50:59SPEAKER_04: Is there a third option?
- 51:01SPEAKER_04: Shoot yourself.
- 51:03SPEAKER_04: Okay, wow, that's dark.
- 51:04SPEAKER_04: I was thinking like retire.
- 51:06SPEAKER_04: I thought I would I genuinely would have considered the third option.
- 51:09SPEAKER_04: Not not the shoot yourself bit because that's not really an option, but that's tough because Rocello was really bad.
- 51:17SPEAKER_04: Like I'm really like really bad.
- 51:19SPEAKER_02: Like out of out of you three, I think Brendan, you could you could pull off double gloves.
- 51:25SPEAKER_02: Double gloves, yeah.
- 51:26SPEAKER_02: You could you can't dribble now, so like what's the difference?
- 51:30SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a good point.
- 51:31SPEAKER_04: It's like just placing paying playing with PCD gloves, isn't it?
- 51:34SPEAKER_04: So yeah, yeah.
- 51:35SPEAKER_04: I'd I've just gone on I've just gone on Airbnb.
- 51:39SPEAKER_03: I'm looking for places in Rokella.
- 51:41SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what all uh no, I I will live in Rokella for six months, six months, no problem.
- 51:47SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you I'll look for a two-bed bottle.
- 51:49SPEAKER_03: We'll we'll shut up.
- 51:51SPEAKER_04: That sounds good.
- 51:54SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm taking the double gloves.
- 51:55SPEAKER_04: I'm not going back to Rokella for six months, no chance.
- 51:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah, also your stomach ain't taking that, Bryn.
- 52:00SPEAKER_04: No, absolutely not.
- 52:02SPEAKER_04: No, I was yeah, actually, no, yeah, good point.
- 52:06SPEAKER_02: You you you will join uh uh Phil and me to a killer.
- 52:10SPEAKER_02: Are you putting it?
- 52:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 100%.
- 52:12SPEAKER_02: If we go with the three of us, I think we actually have a great, great time.
- 52:16SPEAKER_04: No, it's gotta be single bed, it's gotta be single bed apartments, you're not living together.
- 52:19SPEAKER_04: That's cheating, that's breaking the system.
- 52:21SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, but um, we don't listen to two fucking gloves.
- 52:25SPEAKER_03: We don't listen to two double glovers, mate.
- 52:27SPEAKER_02: So it's my it's my coop, it's my coop, and double glovers are not allowed in the coop.
- 52:32SPEAKER_02: Okay, fuck it, Bernie.
- 52:33SPEAKER_02: You're back in.
- 52:34SPEAKER_02: You're back in the coop.
- 52:35SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 52:37SPEAKER_02: Um next question.
- 52:40SPEAKER_02: If you could add one player to your national team from another country, who would it be?
- 52:46SPEAKER_04: Oh, oh, that is this would have been a good question to send to us before the podcast rather than us think about it now, you you know.
- 52:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it would have also been a good idea that when we start at 8 45, yeah, okay, yeah, it's coming, yeah.
- 53:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
- 53:03SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.
- 53:05SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, yeah.
- 53:07SPEAKER_02: Uh so just just because it's a podcast and you're all shutting up for at least 10 seconds already.
- 53:14SPEAKER_02: I'll I'll I'll go first.
- 53:17SPEAKER_02: I think like what we could use maybe, or what could add.
- 53:22SPEAKER_02: I think in Duco Telho comp we already have uh another goal scorer.
- 53:27SPEAKER_02: If I had to like take another, I would maybe add Niklas Welle to our squad.
- 53:33SPEAKER_02: He's a guy who fits in our system in a way that he he can run a hell of a lot.
- 53:39SPEAKER_02: He runs quick, he runs hard, and he has a really good shot.
- 53:43SPEAKER_02: Uh he can score a lot of goals.
- 53:46SPEAKER_02: Uh, would be stupid for me to take a defender because chances are that I'm out again then.
- 53:51SPEAKER_02: Um, I think our midfield is pretty unreal.
- 53:55SPEAKER_02: Uh, and I think our strikers are are like really, really good, really quick, but we could use like another like world-class top like goal scorer and one someone who can like eliminate someone and create something out of nothing.
- 54:09SPEAKER_02: So I think Niklas Weller would I would choose.
- 54:13SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's fair.
- 54:14SPEAKER_04: I I'm in the same boat as you, you, so I don't really want to pick a defender.
- 54:18SPEAKER_04: Uh uh, so I'm gonna keep thinking.
- 54:22SPEAKER_03: Um I mean, we've already talked about him too much, but I can't help it.
- 54:27SPEAKER_03: Like, I'd have uh Van Ogle.
- 54:30SPEAKER_03: I'd like I think he's just so fucking good.
- 54:32SPEAKER_03: I'd I mean selfishly, I'd just like to play with him.
- 54:34SPEAKER_03: I think that'd be pretty nice.
- 54:36SPEAKER_03: And we don't have like probably the the forward type of player that he is, where he can stand up front, he can link, he can make something out of nothing.
- 54:46SPEAKER_03: So I'd uh have him.
- 54:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I I I agree with you, Phil.
- 54:51SPEAKER_02: And we we don't get me wrong, we love von Albo, we think, but we do give him a lot of lot of credits.
- 54:57SPEAKER_02: We need to get off his cock a bit.
- 54:59SPEAKER_02: I just lost against him this weekend as well, and he's he was way too nice again.
- 55:04SPEAKER_02: He's he is too nice.
- 55:05SPEAKER_02: Like, we need to get off his cock.
- 55:07SPEAKER_02: I need to start hating him a bit because I like him too much.
- 55:10SPEAKER_03: Alright, Flo.
- 55:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah, nice Phil.
- 55:15SPEAKER_04: Yeah, put him back in his box.
- 55:17SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm curious who Wortled with that.
- 55:21SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, Voto, you can go first.
- 55:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
- 55:24SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I'm I'm a bit in doubt.
- 55:26SPEAKER_01: Um, I think if I have to choose, I would say uh Artie van Doren, sorry you, uh, because he's in your position now.
- 55:35SPEAKER_02: In a hell of a wrath.
- 55:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but um and not in every game, but if he if he's in in the national team, especially in important games, he's so good.
- 55:49SPEAKER_01: And um yeah, if we play Lara uit or uh Scotland away, um I don't pick Artie van Doon, but yeah, in in important games at at uh important moments, um I think he's he's so good in his passing, uh dribbling is yeah.
- 56:09SPEAKER_03: Do you know when you know that he starts getting really interested?
- 56:12SPEAKER_03: I've noticed like there's a correlation when he starts spinning more, um it means he's like in the game.
- 56:18SPEAKER_03: Have you noticed that?
- 56:19SPEAKER_03: Like as soon as he like runs forward really fast, there's a spin, and then it's like right, he's he's he wants to play now.
- 56:25SPEAKER_03: That's what I've noticed.
- 56:26SPEAKER_03: So any any that's a top tip listening out there.
- 56:31SPEAKER_03: When he starts spinning, you're in trouble.
- 56:32SPEAKER_03: There's some there's some panicking to do.
- 56:34SPEAKER_04: I like the idea that like he plays on a weekend and he does a 360, and someone on the sidelines, like, oh shit, he's ready.
- 56:43SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's a that's a pretty good selection.
- 56:46SPEAKER_04: I I was more thinking along the line of a flicker, like someone like a Hendrix, because it's like it's probably when it's like crunch time for us, we do win quite a lot of corners, and I don't think I think it's something that we've potentially missed in big moments over the past like few years.
- 57:02SPEAKER_04: Um, so someone like a Hendrix would, I think, would potentially add something.
- 57:07SPEAKER_04: Um, because I thought about Van Orbla as well, but I think like a flicker would be something quite cool to have to know that you win a corner and people are genuinely like properly fearful.
- 57:17SPEAKER_04: Like I think we we did what we did really well this summer was actually like we had routines and our flickers actually delivered really, really fucking well.
- 57:24SPEAKER_04: Um, but just that threat of having somebody who is genuinely world, world renowned, I think adds that little bit of like um Jansen, like uh Hendrix, like that kind of like it you're a little bit nervous when you give away a corner because you genuinely they could actually they could score, and it's like I think that for me would be a big one.
- 57:44SPEAKER_04: Not a Harmon preep though, because I don't want a world player of the year, I don't need that in my life.
- 57:48SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 57:50SPEAKER_02: Great, great answers by all.
- 57:52SPEAKER_02: Let's go for one more question in the coup.
- 57:56SPEAKER_02: Would you rather be the most handsome guy in the world but be shit at any sport you play, or be an ugly ass motherfucker that wins three Olympic gold medals?
- 58:07SPEAKER_03: How ugly are you talking?
- 58:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how ugly.
- 58:10SPEAKER_02: I'm talking Frank Riberie on uh crack for half a year.
- 58:18SPEAKER_02: How much money do you have?
- 58:20SPEAKER_04: You're a hockey player.
- 58:22SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's a toughie.
- 58:26SPEAKER_04: Being crap at sport would genuinely I think I'd actually really struggle with that mentally.
- 58:33SPEAKER_04: I think I'd really struggle with it.
- 58:35SPEAKER_03: You're still a hockey player if you're crap at sport.
- 58:39SPEAKER_03: What do you do?
- 58:40SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what do you do?
- 58:41SPEAKER_04: What what's what's your what's your part-time fun?
- 58:43SPEAKER_02: Let's say, let's say you do really like it, but you're always like when you go play with friends, you're always the last one who gets picked.
- 58:51SPEAKER_03: Uh he's not a school, is he?
- 58:54SPEAKER_02: You're not a school, no, but like you really enjoy.
- 58:58SPEAKER_02: You're like the guy who goes for a run, like who goes jogging, and everyone looks at him like, oh, I'm so glad I don't run like that.
- 59:06SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean that, like, like, like physically, like um it's uncomfortable to watch.
- 59:13SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's uncomfortable to watch, but hey, you you are very pretty to look at.
- 59:18SPEAKER_02: You're the handsome most hands, you're like David Beckham has a kid with Brad Pitt, and that's like uh what happens.
- 59:26SPEAKER_04: I I I choose the ugly.
- 59:29SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I figured that brand.
- 59:32SPEAKER_02: Do you want to know why?
- 59:35SPEAKER_02: Nah, okay, cool.
- 59:37SPEAKER_04: Why?
- 59:39SPEAKER_02: Nah cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
- 59:40SPEAKER_02: No, why why would you no no no?
- 59:42SPEAKER_04: It's cool, it's cool, it's cool.
- 59:43SPEAKER_04: What would you say?
- 59:43SPEAKER_04: You what would you go?
- 59:44SPEAKER_04: You go handsome, wouldn't you?
- 59:45SPEAKER_04: You'd take you take the fact you're crap at sport.
- 59:47SPEAKER_04: You know, you just want the looks.
- 59:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm pretty vain.
- 59:50SPEAKER_02: I think I would struggle a lot with uh with not being able like like with being really ugly.
- 59:56SPEAKER_02: I would like don't get me wrong, I love sports, but then I would just fuck that would also mean I'm shit at golf.
- 1:00:03SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, golf is a sport, you yeah, that's tough.
- 1:00:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's oh what a great question.
- 1:00:11SPEAKER_02: Who came up with this shit?
- 1:00:13SPEAKER_02: It's me, but uh what would you choose?
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_01: I prefer the the first one, the most most handsome guy in the world.
- 1:00:22SPEAKER_01: Yeah, really for sure, for sure.
- 1:00:25SPEAKER_01: To give you a little intel on what it doesn't matter if if if they pick me like not in the first first top three.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_01: So if they if we if they pick me out as um at the last position, it's okay for me.
- 1:00:39SPEAKER_01: If I'm the handsome most handsome guy in the world, you you told.
- 1:00:44SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:00:45SPEAKER_03: You you I yeah, I reckon we have looked over this, haven't we?
- 1:00:49SPEAKER_03: You you're you're literally ridiculously handsome.
- 1:00:52SPEAKER_03: It can't be that bad to watch if you go running.
- 1:00:55SPEAKER_04: You'd be a model, surely.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_04: That would be your job.
- 1:00:57SPEAKER_04: So it'd be like, yeah, all right, you'd make an absolute killing in the modeling industry.
- 1:01:02SPEAKER_02: But it's really fun, like Wittle loves games and like loves little like rum bounds, and like that's his life.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_02: We went on a holiday.
- 1:01:11SPEAKER_02: He could still play it, he just loses.
- 1:01:15SPEAKER_04: He plays just lose the whole time.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_04: That that'd be the only negative.
- 1:01:19SPEAKER_02: Yeah, true.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
- 1:01:21SPEAKER_02: I think I I think it when I think about it, like yeah, I would go for being the most handsome guy, ugly ass motherfuckers.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_02: Not not to play, I think.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_04: To be fair, playing a round of golf would be exactly the same as what I do now, so that wouldn't change for me.
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_04: I'm still just as bad as what it would be.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_04: That'd be fine.
- 1:01:39SPEAKER_03: Oh, 12 again.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_03: Oh well, on to the next hole.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_04: Ah, gotta go get another pack of balls at the halfway hut.
- 1:01:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah, good.
- 1:01:48SPEAKER_03: So I hope you get them for free because you're so good looking, you just smile at the person behind, they just give you some credit.
- 1:01:55SPEAKER_02: So good looking, it's it's like tough.
- 1:01:57SPEAKER_02: But then you then when someone chases you and you have to run away, everyone starts laughing.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_02: Look at the handsome guy who's like an idiot.
- 1:02:05SPEAKER_02: That's that's I'd take the ugly.
- 1:02:08SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
- 1:02:09SPEAKER_02: Okay, so three guys would go for handsome and one guy would go for ugly.
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_02: You guess who?
- 1:02:15SPEAKER_02: Um, okay, so that was the coop with you.
- 1:02:20SPEAKER_02: Um, if you have good questions for the coop, I'm open uh for questions.
- 1:02:27SPEAKER_02: Send us an email at let's stick together2018 at gmail.com or through Instagram, right, Phil?
- 1:02:35SPEAKER_03: Right, is that you passing on?
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_03: Are we out of the coop now?
- 1:02:38SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I thought we we're out of coupe, but I thought we would do like two more shit or hits and then like we call it a we call it.
- 1:02:43SPEAKER_03: We'll do we'll do a very quick shit or hit and then we'll end because we it's been a it's been a really nice episode.
- 1:02:49SPEAKER_01: I don't want to I will send you I will send you a coop for next week, you uh I love it.
- 1:02:56SPEAKER_02: Uh the um what do you call a rooster?
- 1:03:00SPEAKER_02: I wanted to say cock, but it's a rooster, right?
- 1:03:02SPEAKER_02: Cock is also true.
- 1:03:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're my you're my cock in in the coop.
- 1:03:08SPEAKER_02: Um so it's got so many layers.
- 1:03:12SPEAKER_02: It's such a lovely place.
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_02: Let's do shit or hit real quick.
- 1:03:15SPEAKER_02: You know the you know the the what shit or hit is, what all no?
- 1:03:19SPEAKER_02: I I named something, it's either shit or it's a hit.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_02: Here you go.
- 1:03:23SPEAKER_04: Okay, so I love hold on, I love the fact that you passed it to Phil and I'm now taking it straight back.
- 1:03:30SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it was I came up with shit or hit.
- 1:03:32SPEAKER_02: You want me to Phil?
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_02: You wanted me to be more involved?
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_02: Here you go.
- 1:03:36SPEAKER_02: Cool then.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_02: Okay, so um modern art or art, shit or hit.
- 1:03:43SPEAKER_02: Phil?
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_03: Look, it's not it's shit, it's like it's like pretentious, it's like people who go and fucking wear some ridiculously expensive clothes and maybe have a pipe and a stupid hat, and they go, Oh, yeah, I see what that the interpretation means to it.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_03: It's float of bollocks.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's a strong feeling.
- 1:04:02SPEAKER_03: I did not expect it to have a strong feeling on that.
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I did.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_03: I had that lined up.
- 1:04:07SPEAKER_04: Can you bring?
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_04: Uh I I like bright colours on walls, so I quite like looking at some art, however, quite a lot of art I don't really have an interest in.
- 1:04:17SPEAKER_04: Uh so I I'm gonna I'm gonna go a slight hint of hit, but mainly shit.
- 1:04:22SPEAKER_04: No, that's not acceptable.
- 1:04:24SPEAKER_04: Well then I've got to go shit then.
- 1:04:25SPEAKER_04: If I've got if I've got to go one way or the other, I've got to go shit.
- 1:04:28SPEAKER_01: What are you saying?
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm I'm completely agree with with Brendan.
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_01: I like the like the the art for yeah, just just a little bit, but uh not that much.
- 1:04:42SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 1:04:45SPEAKER_02: I I I like I like the whole Van Gogh, and I think that that takes skill.
- 1:04:50SPEAKER_02: But like the guys who who who like put three red stripes on a white wall and say it's art and and sell it for two million euros, like that really pisses me off.
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_02: That there's nothing that enrages me more than that.
- 1:05:03SPEAKER_02: Like, if if if you if you give a three-year-old kid uh uh a bucket of paint on a white wall, let him do like some stripes and tell it's by uh this this by Banksy, it will go for two million.
- 1:05:16SPEAKER_02: Like people don't give a shit, they only care who who made it.
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_02: I I I hate art.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_02: I like Fango and shit.
- 1:05:23SPEAKER_02: I hate modern art and everyone who who likes it and is involved with it.
- 1:05:29SPEAKER_04: I I didn't realize we felt so strongly about art.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_04: This is something we've just learned.
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_04: That's it's nice, it's good.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_04: Fuck you, art.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_03: So I've can I can I do a shit or hit you?
- 1:05:39SPEAKER_03: I've got a good one.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, go.
- 1:05:41SPEAKER_03: Um car park meets for uh for shit cars.
- 1:05:47SPEAKER_03: So I don't know if you have this in in Holland, but basically, um people like do up shit cars, so they have like a Peugeot or something, and they put a big exhaust on it and maybe put some big lights on it, and they go they go to a car park at night, and uh they all park up and get a McDonald's and look at each other's shit cars.
- 1:06:08SPEAKER_03: So there's a really big one, a massive service station on the way back from Holcomb, and it was pissing it down on Saturday night, and there was a queue on the slip road to go in with all these shit cars lined up.
- 1:06:23SPEAKER_03: And I was like, who the does this in their life when they drive?
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_03: It's like what are we doing Saturday night?
- 1:06:28SPEAKER_03: Obviously, gonna take the Toyota and go down to Cobham services, aren't we?
- 1:06:33SPEAKER_04: Are you saying it's so shit it's it's a hit, or are you just saying it's just so shit?
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_03: Oh, it's a hit, definitely hit.
- 1:06:39SPEAKER_04: Okay, yeah, I think it's I'm genuinely it's so shit, it's a hit for me.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_04: I think it's one of those things that it's so sad, but the fact that people still commit to it, I think, is what's actually a bit of a hit for me.
- 1:06:50SPEAKER_02: Tragic hit.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I love it.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_02: I love it.
- 1:06:54SPEAKER_02: It sounds it sounds it sounds like something Boto could do.
- 1:06:58SPEAKER_01: No, no, definitely not.
- 1:07:00SPEAKER_01: I have a shit car, but I'm not proud of it, so I'm not going to to places where we were share our cars or just proud of our cars now.
- 1:07:09SPEAKER_02: I I loved I love like the the ones you described, Phil, like the old Toyota, and they put like a really big exhaust uh thing under it, and like a like a I also like when people put like uh a cover on their steering wheel, you know, like the fluffy one.
- 1:07:23SPEAKER_02: That's also a big hit for me.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_02: Like it must like you must be so fucking bored to put like of nothing to do with your life to put like this like gray uh carpet on your on your steering wheel.
- 1:07:36SPEAKER_04: It's that it's that and the big fluffy, the big fluffy dice in the middle as well, like the old yeah, the big fluffy yeah, you watch too much too many movies, Brendan.
- 1:07:43SPEAKER_02: But exactly that, yeah.
- 1:07:45SPEAKER_03: Well, I am gonna call it, we're gonna call it there.
- 1:07:48SPEAKER_03: Um, this has been a really fun episode of Let's Stick Together.
- 1:07:51SPEAKER_03: We are brought to you by Y1 before we start, but thank you so much, Vortl, for coming on.
- 1:07:56SPEAKER_03: You've been a fucking amazing guest.
- 1:07:58SPEAKER_03: Um, can't wait for you to be the the cockerel in the uh in the coop sending in noop stuff.
- 1:08:04SPEAKER_03: Um it's been an absolute pleasure.
- 1:08:06SPEAKER_01: Thanks, guys.
- 1:08:07SPEAKER_01: Yeah, really enjoyed it.
- 1:08:09SPEAKER_01: Thanks.
- 1:08:10SPEAKER_01: We love you, Vortal.
- 1:08:12SPEAKER_03: You're one of us now.
- 1:08:13SPEAKER_03: What what a man.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_03: And this has been Let's Stick Together.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_03: Join us again next week.
- 1:08:18SPEAKER_03: See you guys.