Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #265 - Why Australia’s Economy’s Stuck in Decline
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- 0:00I'm the type of person that addresses my problems head-on. So
- 0:03for example, if I'm seeing that our growth in our business is going to go through a
- 0:06decline, any of our businesses, I start cutting some of the costs, I
- 0:10try to be clever with how much or what we're doing to bring more income in,
- 0:14being more productive in the business, so actually making difficult decisions. That's
- 0:18really what it boils down to. It's like, well, we're going to go through a decline, I've got
- 0:21to make some difficult decisions. Right? I mean, it happens to
- 0:24anything. If you're going through a challenge in your relationship, you're going to make some difficult decisions.
- 0:27You're going to have a difficult conversation. It's the same thing as a country. If
- 0:31we're going through this process where we're going into a recession, we've
- 0:34just got to make some decisions. And unfortunately, we don't get to make those
- 0:37decisions for the country. The political party in has to make them. And unfortunately,
- 0:41the one we've got doesn't make any decisions. They haven't... There's
- 0:45no leadership here. Kind of makes you
- 0:48want to get into federal politics, doesn't it? But then you get into the
- 0:52fold and then you get infected by the fold. So it's not as easy as
- 0:55that. Anyway. All right, so we're
- 0:59in a per capita recession, seven consecutive quarters. In March
- 1:02it fell 0.4%, June in 2024, 0.4% it fell, September
- 1:06it fell by 0.3%. So we've got this happening,
- 1:11right? Now there's two reasons why this is happening, two
- 1:14reasons, okay? The first reason is low productivity, which
- 1:17I'll explain why that's coming and how that's happening. And the second thing
- 1:21is, More people. So if you have more people coming
- 1:25in, you're dividing the denominator in the equation by
- 1:28more, you're going to have a lower number. So
- 1:32if we're bringing in more people through immigration, we're going
- 1:35to have less GDP per capita because this is more people. So
- 1:38if the denominator is higher in the equation, we're going to have Effectively,
- 1:42it's why it's causing a per capita recession. More people need more jobs.
- 1:46More people need more public services. More people need more housing. I'm
- 1:49not a big proponent of mass immigration. It destroys the
- 1:53citizens who are already there. But I am a believer in immigration. So
- 1:56I'm all about growing a country through immigration, through net
- 2:00migration, or obviously through natural births. And
- 2:03a growing population is great, but not unchecked. immigration
- 2:08to then throw them into low productivity jobs, which I'll explain. So I'm
- 2:11all for immigration, but we don't have to go crazy with it, right? It's the same sort of
- 2:15thing. Like if you're inviting your family out for Christmas, you want
- 2:21Like imagine if like 55 of you family go, oh, we've got one house. We've
- 2:27Like, yeah, I want people to come, but not everyone at once, right? And certain
- 2:30people and for certain reasons and so forth. So there's two things, low productivity, the
- 2:33first thing that causes it, and then the second thing, more people. So let's look at low productivity,
- 2:37all right? So we look at jobs growth
- 2:41here, and we look at where the jobs are growing to show what productivity
- 2:44gains we're gonna have with jobs growth. Now, what's really interesting about this is
- 2:48recently in the June unemployment rate rose to 4.3%, and
- 2:52it just shocked every economist like, what? I thought unemployment
- 2:56was gonna fall. They weren't expecting a rise in unemployment. It's
- 2:59kind of surprising actually because you're bringing more people here and you're maxing out the
- 3:02jobs already. We're a low productivity country, you're not gonna have a lot of
- 3:06people fulfilling roles. So you're seeing already that immigration and
- 3:10unemployment are connected, okay? So you bring in more people, not as many jobs, of
- 3:13course unemployment goes up. Now, what's interesting about this is the part that
- 3:17is most important about productivity is where are the jobs? Because
- 3:21if you want to have a highly productive country, you put them into growing
- 3:26sectors in the economy. Generally, it's through business activity, innovation,
- 3:30and effectively, non-government jobs. That's where you get a lot of productivity. Because
- 3:34we all know, having dealt, if you've ever dealt with a public, with a
- 3:37government entity of any kind, you know
- 3:41how incredibly ineffective and low productivity efficiency
- 3:46they are, you know, like you go to any deal with the government, anything is efficiency
- 3:50is terrible. So the same sort of thing happens in jobs, it's
- 3:53just not a highly productive space, right?
- 3:57So you look here on the in the data, the amount of employment. So
- 4:02private sector, public sector jobs has come from the ABS. There
- 4:06were a total of government funded roles
- 4:10such as healthcare, education, public administration, In
- 4:152024, there were 373,100 jobs
- 4:19added. In the private sector, so the market sector, so it's a business driven employment,
- 4:23where it's the most productive because of capitalism, it's
- 4:28approximately 113,900 jobs. So you're looking at, so 77%, 77% of all jobs created last
- 4:31year were in the government. in
- 4:39this really non-productive, it's not creating
- 4:43anymore, it's just facilitating and servicing the people here and it's
- 4:46being paid by the taxpayer. So what happens when
- 4:49that happens is that everyone in the economy including
- 4:53the public sector, but those private businesses building all this new growth, a
- 4:56lot of their tax revenue is getting thrown into the government
- 5:00funded jobs. So we're almost robbing Peter to pay
- 5:03Paul a little bit. And when that happens, you get low productivity gains.
- 5:07Okay, this is the way it works. And so for example, if everyone worked
- 5:10for the government, you'd have a socialist communist style economy. And
- 5:14this is no productivity because everyone's on the gravy train. It's
- 5:17a little bit like having, you know, like let's say is a family business and
- 5:21only anyone who worked there was in the family. And
- 5:24of course you're going to have family members that are lazy, that trying to
- 5:28take advantage. And you think about those who are working in government, they're
- 5:31not there to, to be productive. A lot of people, I'm
- 5:34not saying just government, but people in a employment style that
- 5:38are unchecked. in terms of their review and so forth. They're trying to
- 5:41do as little work as possible and make as much as possible. That's just human nature,
- 5:45right? That's the incentive structure. Government-style roles, I'm not saying all of them.
- 5:48So if you're in government, don't freak out like Lloyd hates. The incentive systems in government and
- 5:51the checks and balances just make it inefficient. You
- 5:54know, they hold people they shouldn't do for too long and because They're
- 5:58funded by the government. There's no natural attrition
- 6:03in the sector. So for example, if certain quotas aren't hit, no
- 6:06one loses their job because they need certain roles to be filled and so
- 6:09forth. So you do get a very inefficient economy when
- 6:13you're piling people into the government sector.
- 6:16And you don't really want a full socialist government or communist government. There's a reason why
- 6:20when the Berlin Wall, if you're wondering why, if you're someone who's like, well, we
- 6:24want more socialism and power to the people instead of
- 6:27the rich people and more government jobs and communism yeah
- 6:30I don't know where this came from but it seems to be more prevalent today than
- 6:33ever in the 50s you get arrested for that type of talk but there's
- 6:38a reason why when the Berlin wall fell that
- 6:42people from the east fled to the west When
- 6:46the Berlin Wall fell, there was no one running from the West to
- 6:49the East. Does that make sense? There's no one running from South Korea
- 6:53to North Korea. Like, oh, I hope I can go to North Korea. That
- 6:57looks like fun. No, it's not how everyone's trying
- 7:00to flee. They're trying to get away, right? We want as many private
- 7:04sector jobs as possible. We want as much business
- 7:08market type jobs as possible. We certainly don't want 77% of
- 7:12them going into the government sector. No way, not for a productive, healthy
- 7:16economy. And the reason why that's happening too, I think,
- 7:20is well without doubt if you when you're immigrating a lot more people
- 7:24you're going to put pressure on the health care system the infrastructure and public
- 7:28works you're going to so for sure you need people to fill roles
- 7:31to then service those people coming in but i also think the
- 7:34immigration minister and obviously the prime minister and the
- 7:38government they all talk and they say well look we don't really want a recession in our books here
- 7:41so can we just bring some more people in and can we just give some more jobs to
- 7:44the government sector so that we can prop up the employment numbers so
- 7:48we can keep the momentum going in employment because no
- 7:51political party wants to say well unemployment spiked during my prime ministership right
- 7:55so they're kind of in cahoots Let's give more jobs. And
- 7:58of course, if you have things like the NDIS program happening, you're
- 8:02creating, you're funding this particular sector,
- 8:05you're gonna find a lot of people coming into that to fill roles because it's
- 8:09a created thing by the government, right? So anyway, the reason
- 8:12why that causes a per capita recession is because there's more people coming, right? So the
- 8:15next part is the immigration component. And
- 8:18you can see they're very, very closely related, okay? If we look at
- 8:21now that that unemployment's gone up recently. Now
- 8:25they're threatening a cut at the reserve bank because
- 8:29unemployment's going up. We can't have that happen at all. I mean, no one
- 8:32wants to lose their job, but when you're immigrating people, it's just
- 8:35gonna happen. It's a by-product. So here we have the next part of the equation. So low
- 8:38productivity is the first thing, and it's the type of jobs being created that create low
- 8:42productivity. So we've established that too many government jobs are
- 8:45creating a low productive economy. The next part is migration. And
- 8:49so in the year ending June, 2024, So
- 8:53the last financial year, the net overseas migration into
- 8:56Australia, the net, so that's like immigrant arrivals was like 667,000. The departures
- 8:59were 221,000. There's people that leave here too, 221,000 left. The
- 9:06people that are left over is net migration, and
- 9:10it's 446,000 people. Now what's interesting about that is it was down
- 9:14by a lot, probably about 20% it looks to be.
- 9:18It was down by 20% from June financial year. So from June 2023, it was 536,000. June
- 9:212024, it was 446,000. So you see it did drop, which is, what
- 9:31you really want. If you're a citizen in a country and you have
- 9:34all the wonderful natural resources that we have, you should be happy not
- 9:38to have a lot of migration, truly. There
- 9:41are countries in the world that don't have a lot of net migration and they have wonderful lives. It's
- 9:44not the be all and end all. I think that the lobbyists and
- 9:48certain people in certain sectors like the property sector, they lobby
- 9:51hard for more people because they know it's gonna pump up prices and
- 9:54that's what they want, right? It's just the greed factor that causes it. That was that year. Now,
- 9:58what's interesting about that is since then, it's gone, it's gone back.
- 10:01Well, it's certainly not gone back, but it's risen a little bit. So it's
- 10:05like 447,000, 448,000 are coming in in the last year or
- 10:08this year specifically. So we're seeing a lot of migration
- 10:12come in. And everybody knows, I've done episodes on this before. If you haven't seen some of the episodes, go
- 10:15back and have a watch of them as to why this is a problem. in
- 10:19our country. But of course, if you bring more people in, then especially
- 10:24if you're giving away 70% of jobs to the government, you're
- 10:27gonna have a lot of people coming in and joining the government. It's like, just join
- 10:31the gravy train. And they're not providing any... efficiency
- 10:35to the economy. Not in sectors that are going to grow our GDP, right?
- 10:39It just sucks. It just takes more tax revenue from every single
- 10:42person to facilitate their employment. And it's
- 10:46what's causing this per capita recession. Now,
- 10:49what will happen over time if we don't fix this is we're going to go through actual
- 10:52recession. Thanks for listening to Money Grows on Trees. If you enjoyed the
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