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Why Are People Warning You to be Careful Before Praying in Bed? · Off The Kirb Ministries

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OK guys, I am very curious. I want to know has God ever
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dealt with you whilst you've been lying down in bed?
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Or have you ever had a time of prayer where it really feels
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like your prayers have reached heaven, as if God has reached
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down to you whilst you've been lying down in the stillness of
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night in bed? I want to cover this topic
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because I have actually seen a number of videos in the
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Christian side of YouTube that have been saying it's a bad
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thing to pray in bed. It's not a good thing.
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You need to be careful if you're praying in bed.
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And I'm going to just start by saying that is total nonsense.
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I actually think it's the complete opposite and I'm going
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to give you some really good examples in scripture of why it
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can be a really good thing to think about the Lord God whilst
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you're lying down in bed. Now, if you've never joined us
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Obviously it's an encouragement for me and people are asking me
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Some of you also say because I use a lot of hand gestures when
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I speak, they're all you're always terrified I'm going to
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knock over the coffee. Hopefully that will never
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happen, but never say never. Now the first reason why I
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believe it's very, very silly to say we cannot pray whilst lying
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down is because it's mentioned in the Bible.
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And in fact, what most people don't know is that ancient
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Israel, it was actually a common practice.
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You see, the bed wasn't just seen as a place for sleeping, it
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was seen as a place for being meditative, a place for prayer,
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a place for remembering God. If you'd like some proof of
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this, let's look at Psalm chapter 4, verse 4.
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Tremble and do not sin when you are on your beds, search your
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hearts and be silent. So here the Scripture is really
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emphasizing this, that when a man or woman was to to lie on
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their bed, it was a time for quietness, for a time to just
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search their heart. Search is is as the psalmist.
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Is there any evil way inside me? Search me, oh Lord, see if
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there's anything, any iniquity in my heart to dwell on these
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things. Some of you, if you watch the
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channel, I don't know how when you found my ministry, but I've
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been going for quite a while, for 10 years actually, in
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November in the Lord's grace and when I started making videos on
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sort of sermon jams. One of the preachers I used to
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love and I still love very much this day is a man called Leonard
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Ravenhill. He's long with the Lord now, but
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he was an evangelist from Yorkshire.
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He started out as a street preacher and then he went over
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to America and and he was friends with Keith Green.
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He did a tremendous work. Very, very fiery preacher.
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Would you know how Leonard Ravenhill used to pray And
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remember Leonard Ravenhill used to say this?
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He said, I don't care if your pastor has 200 theology degrees.
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He didn't quite put it like this.
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I am sort of I'm, you know, embellishing of it.
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But he said, I don't care if your pastor has lots and lots of
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theology degrees that I don't care if he's got a brain the
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size of, of Mars. You know, I don't care if he's
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got all of this. If he doesn't pray for two hours
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a day, he's not worth 2 pennies. Now that's a strong statement.
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And I'm just going to flat out tell you right now, I don't pray
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for two hours a day. I wish I did.
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But here's a man who who was a very serious man of prayer.
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How did Leonard Ravenhill used to pray?
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He said, I remember hearing him in a sermon.
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He said he'd lie down with his, you know, his belly on the on
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the on the duvet and he'd put his head on the pillow and he'd
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just face down pray and he'd do that for for hours.
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So interesting isn't it? Now I'm going to be honest with
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you. If I did that, I'd be asleep
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within 5 minutes. I don't know if anyone else
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watching would be the same, but it is interesting, isn't it?
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I I personally the way I pray if I want to do a a long prayer is
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I do prayer walks where I'm walking and it just helps me to
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focus my mind. If I walk around my street, I'll
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know that different sort of, you know, different things like that
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person's house or, or that little bit of grass there.
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I'll, I'll think of things to remember to pray for.
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So things in the Middle East, for instance, or I may pray for
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someone I know, an elder at a church who I know hasn't been
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very well for a long time. I'll pray for that, for these
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different things, but I think the main message here to
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remember is this. It's not about the position so
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much. Yes, great.
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You can lie down to pray if you kneel on the floor.
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I think that's a wonderful thing to do.
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It just, you know, really sort of centres us and reminds us
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just we're just dust. We're just, you know, we're
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nothing before this, holy God, and I think that's a good thing.
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But walking, sitting, it's not about the position, but it's
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about the mindset and the heart. That's important and we need to
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really remember that. All right, the second reason why
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I think you and I should be making a practice of praying
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whilst we're in bed, remembering the Lord God whilst we lie down
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is this. You see, when we're in bed there
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are no distractions, are there? It's just total quietness.
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We can lie there, we can think there.
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We, we hopefully shouldn't have a screen in front of us.
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We should. We're just there.
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Now it's just just me and you. I know the Lord is everywhere,
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but He's here right now with me and it can be a really good
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time, very profitable. Just listen to Psalm 63, verse
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six with me, please. Here David says on my bed.
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I remember you. I think of you through the
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watches of the night. I love that phrase through the
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watches of the night. Now some of you might remember
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about a year ago I did a video about waking up at 3:00 AM and I
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shared a good friend of mine. We call him Dave Fleetwood or
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Dave 316 because his other friend is called Dave as well.
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So it can get a bit confusing, but Dave woke up if you've not
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heard the story before, he, he wasn't a believer.
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He was like, you know, a tough man, a man of the world, went to
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Amsterdam, did all those kind of things, did everything, you
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know, just lived a life of, of sin, basically.
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He'd openly say that to you. And yet there came a time where
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he was inside his little man cave with his motorcycles and he
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just fell on the floor with the fear of God.
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Terrible fear overcame him anyway.
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He knew something had happened, but he didn't know what God was
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trying to say or or what the message was.
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Not long after he was he was sleeping.
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And then he woke up, couldn't get back to sleep.
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Checked his phone and it was it was 16 minutes past three in the
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morning. Put it away, went back to sleep.
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Next day, he wakes up the same time, checks his phone, 16
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minutes past three, tries to get back to sleep, Can't.
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Next day, 16 minutes past three. Fourth night, Eventually it's as
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if he's saying God saying to him, come on, come on, my
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friend, are you not getting the message here?
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And it finally clicked. He went downstairs, he put into
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Google Bible 316. And there he read, God so loved
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the world that he sent his only begotten Son, that whosoever
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believes in him shall not perish, but have everlasting
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life. Such such good news.
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It's interesting. I actually just thought I'll
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have a little look at the comments section of that video.
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And there was a man who'd written a very similar story to
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Dave's. And he said he was he was tied
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in in the attic of his grandmother's house.
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He was going through her things and he came across the Bible and
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you know, as the unbeliever would often do, I don't need
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that, threw it aside. He then was going through some
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more things and he found another, another Bible, a really
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old one, threw it aside. I don't need that.
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It's the Bible. Who reads that?
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And then a third time later on, he comes to to a Bible, a Gideon
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Bible. It's over here in the UK, we
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have the called the good news for everyone now but the
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Gideons. And they put a Bible in every
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single hotel room. And as he's found this Bible,
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holding it there, he just looks down at his phone.
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And what time is it? It's 16 minutes past three.
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That was the only verse he knew John 316.
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He read it and from what the man say, and this is what led him to
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Christ tremendous. So the Lord God, he does speak
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to us in the early hours of the morning.
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Myself I found sometimes I'll wake up and I'll have the best
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time in in the word. I'll wake up, I can't get back
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to sleep and I'll read and it was a very precious time.
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Sometimes I'm lying there and God will just give me a message.
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Often I have to labour really hard to get a message, but
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sometimes it's all there. It's like I've got to get up,
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I've got to get up. I'm sorry Emma, I'm just going
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downstairs. I need to, I'm going to my
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office, scribble it all down, it's all there and the Lord's
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given it to me. So special things do happen in
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the watches of the night. But I think the real point here
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that I'm trying to get to is, OK, it might be in the night
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where I remember the Lord God, but we want a place where we can
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have no distractions. There was a very, very well
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known American preacher. I won't name him because I don't
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want to take a distraction from this video.
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But very sadly, this man, you know, he, he made a mess
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basically. Not to say that the Lord cannot
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forgive him for what he's done. We believe in a God of second
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chances, but he had a very, very famous kind of message and he
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called it the chair. And basically the whole point
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was you need a chair that you come to every single day to read
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your Bible, to do your quiet time, to do your devotion.
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And the point was this, don't let there be rubbish on the
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chair. Don't let the kids be there.
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Don't let the wife be there or the husband be there.
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Don't let there be any. You need a chair.
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You need a place where you can go quietly.
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For some of you, it might be in your truck, in your car.
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For some of you, you might have an armchair.
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For some of you, you might have a hammock.
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You might have a bed. You might have somewhere we can
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go quietly for myself. You're not going to believe
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this, but the recent one for me in the last year is I literally
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sit on a sledge, on my, on my child's, on my son's sledge.
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It's just in the garden. And I've just found that's where
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I sit every morning and I'll sit there even if it's wet.
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I'll just sit on this sledge and read my Bible.
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And I've had some wonderful, wonderful quiet time singing
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Jingle Bells all the way. But you get the picture there,
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don't you? Just make sure there's a place
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where you can go for quietness with the Lord.
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Now, I almost hesitate to say this because I don't want to
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take away from what I've said, but there is a word of caution
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for all of this about lying in bed.
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I want to come to it just a little bit later.
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But first, let's just think of some men of God or some biblical
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instances of this in the Bible. Again, could you turn in your
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Bibles? If you've got a Bible there?
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I hope you're OK with all these Bible verses.
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I know you always tell me more Bible verses the better.
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So you've got plenty in this video, Genesis 28.
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If you've got a Bible there the very front of your Bibles,
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Genesis 28 and we're going to read verses 16 to 17.
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When Jacob awoke from his sleep, he thought surely the Lord is in
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this place and I was not aware of it.
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He was afraid and said, how awesome is this place?
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This is none other than the House of God.
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This is the gate of heaven. Now this is a very well known
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story. Here we've got Jacob and he's
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he's literally fleeing. He's he's running from his
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brother Esau, who is he's upset greatly.
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And as he finds somewhere, you know, in the nights, he sees a
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stone and thinks, oh, that'll be a comfy pillow.
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He takes the stone, lays his head down.
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I don't know how he managed to fall asleep, but he did.
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He fell into a deep sleep. And there the Lord God met him,
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the Lord in a dream and a vision shows him something incredible.
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He sees a ladder and and the very bottom, the very base of
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the ladder is on earth. And this ladder stretches all
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the way up to heaven. And on this ladder, ascending
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and descending up and down are angels.
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Now this is just the most beautiful picture of the gospel
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because who is Jesus Christ? He is the stairway, He is the
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the ladder between, He's the bridge between man and God.
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He is the bridge between earth and heaven.
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He is the mediator who we cannot enter into God's presence in
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ourselves. We've got all this sin that
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covers us and yet Jesus Christ, the Spirit of Christ stepped
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into a spirit, took on a body and then became the Saviour of
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all flesh dying on that cross and now makes it possible for to
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connect with God, to be reconciled with God through
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Jesus death on that cross. Beautiful picture there.
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So here we've got a lovely picture here of of Jacob meeting
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with God as he as he lies down. And he actually called that
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place Bethel. So if you ever see a church
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called Bethel, it's named after this particularly precious story
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in the Bible, Samuel. Now, many of you know my son's
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name is Samuel. I just love the name Samuel.
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Now that's a, that's an interesting story.
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You know it well, don't you? Here you've got this, this young
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man, this apprentice. Shall we stay young prophet
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apprentice. And he's in and he's there and
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he's, he's lying down asleep. And he's got his boss, the older
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prophet Eli. And here he is, he's sleeping,
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he's trying to sleep. And he hears a voice.
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Samuel gets up. Oh, my boss, Eli's calling me.
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He goes up. Eli, did you call me?
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No, no, no, Samuel, I didn't call you.
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Go back to bed. Samuel lays down, tries to get
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back to bed. Samuel, Eli's calling me.
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He must have called me this time.
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Goes into Eli, did you call me? No.
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No, Samuel, I didn't call you. Go back to bed.
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Samuel goes back to bed. Lies down a third time.
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Samuel, he goes into Eli Now Eli suddenly gets knowledge of
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what's happening. He he gets he perceives this is
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the Lord speaking to him. And he says, Samuel, this is God
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speaking to you. I want you now to go back, lie
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down when you hear the voice again say speak Lord for your
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servant heareth. So sure enough, Samuel did as
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Eli said there he heard a prophecy from the Lord, a very
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difficult word that would be particularly aimed at Eli and at
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his sons, because Eli hadn't restrained his sons.
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He hadn't been the father that that them sons needed.
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And those sons had wreaked havoc.
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And Samuel in the morning told Eli all of it.
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But something I find quite, you know, just on a little
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diversion, quite remarkable about this.
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Eli didn't get upset. He didn't get angry with Samuel.
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He didn't get jealous of this younger man who was taking his
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position. He was going to be the new
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prophet. He just received it humbly and
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knew that he had done wrong. And guys, that's a lesson for
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you and I. You know, so often we pray for
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younger preachers to come up, don't we?
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The older men, the the pastors, we pray for younger preachers to
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come up. But when they do come up, do we
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support them? Do we encourage them?
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Or do we, you know, we always picking holes all the bad things
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they've done or we always discouraging them, do we support
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them financially? I mean, that's something I was
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challenged by years ago when a young guy said to me, you know,
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people are always saying we need younger preachers, but when a
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younger guy comes forward, no one supports them financially,
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which is something perhaps as a young person at your church
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who's just started in ministry, maybe the Lord might be laying
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it on your heart, just not nothing massive, but just to
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give them a little, a little gift to encourage, encourage
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them. We need to just be practical,
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don't we? And we need to just love the
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younger people who are coming up into ministry.
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And it's a challenge for me because I want to, I want to
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make sure that I'm encouraging younger people in ministry too.
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And we all want to be disciplined and looking after
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younger people and, you know, sharing the knowledge God has
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given us to, to other people as well.
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Hey now, a less flattering example of someone falling
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asleep is a story of Jonah. You know that story well as
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well. Here we've got Jonah.
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He's run away. He's told you need to preach the
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people of Nineveh, but he was really, really scared.
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These people of Nineveh, they, they were known to do some
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pretty, you know, pretty insane things with those who they, they
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got hold of. And I don't maybe won't share it
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in this video, but just think of an onion in other words.
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And, you know, it was really, really scary for him, for him.
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So he ran away and he gets into a boat and yet God speaks to him
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fast asleep in the very bottom of the boat.
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There he is being rocked to sleep and yet God wakes him up
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with a storm. And then this is a bit I really
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love. One of my favorite Bible
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characters is the is the sea captain in the story of Jonah.
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And he knocks on the door and he says, arise, O sleeper, wake up.
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Call upon your God that he might have mercy on us.
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So here we've got this unbelieving man who's telling
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the prophet of God what he should be doing.
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It's a strong message. How many times has the
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unbeliever looked at us as a Christian and said, you
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shouldn't be doing that. You shouldn't be watching that
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you, you've had way too many drinks there.
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You're meant to be a Christian. What's what's going on here?
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Just a lesson to remember that the world is watching us.
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Here we've got Elijah and again he's he's running away.
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He's running away from someone after him.
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Jezebel, that evil queen wants him and he feels hopeless if
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he's just lost all hope just feels like what's the point?
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So he lies down under this, this tree, I think it was a terebinth
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tree and falls asleep. And then an Angel of the Lord
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touches him and gives him something to eat, gives him
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something to drink and says, don't despair, don't lose hope.
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Elijah encourages him and says, just rest.
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You just need to rest right now. And then go on with your, your
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journey. And there's a lesson for us.
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There isn't that, you know, some of us, we're going at 100 mph.
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And when that happens, it's very easy for you and I to fall into
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that place of despair as pilgrims progress as Christian
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found out that that place, that Slough of despondency, that it's
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like a big, a big miry pond just full of this thick mud.
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And he sinks down into it and he just feels hopeless.
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We can feel like that at times if we're going too fast, if
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we're trying to do too much. And there doesn't come a time
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where we just have to rest a while, find peace in the Lord.
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And then go back to our mission, then go back to Our Calling to
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serve the Lord. OK, just before I come to my
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little warning, shall I say for you and I to be aware of, I just
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want to give some examples that are more in the negative sense.
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Well, some of them are very, very, yeah, bad examples of, of
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sleeping where, you know, we have got to be careful about
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sleeping and, and how it can sometimes bad things can happen
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when we're being lazy or when we're sleeping.
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A classic example of this is the disciples.
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You know the story well, as Jesus is in the Garden of
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Gethsemane and he's praying, he's toiling with God and he
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asks the disciples to to watch and pray.
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He comes and he finds them all asleep.
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Couldn't you have stayed up for just one hour, Just one hour for
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me? And then he says, you know, the
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Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
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We've got to be careful, haven't we?
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You know, again, as I say, we, we need to rest, but we also
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need to be careful that we, we don't become slow, full or lazy.
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And we're always lying down and we're always, you know, relaxing
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because there is work to be done.
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Work whilst we have day. The Bible says, you know, while
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the hour is at hand, we need to work.
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We need, we can't preach the gospel in heaven, can we?
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Let's get out there and, and do it now.
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Now, hopefully you're going to see a pattern, but I'm going to
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show you some more examples of why lying down.
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You know, we shouldn't super spiritualize it.
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Here we've got Saul. OK, Saul is is lying down.
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And David comes in, sneaks in and proves to Saul.
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Saul, I could have had you. You were sleeping right now.
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And then there's the other example.
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Do you remember Saul? When no longer was God speaking
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to him, no longer would he hear the voice of God.
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So what did he do? He went and saw out a witch, the
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witch of Endor. And as he visited this witch,
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he, he called we're back to Samuel again, the prophet Samuel
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to come out and he says he literally came out of the
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ground. What a scary, terrifying image.
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And here the prophet Samuel is. Why have you, why have you
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called me up Saul? And here it is.
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There's bad news. He gives bad news to Saul and it
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says about Saul, he literally just falls to the ground to the
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point where the witch had to try and comfort him.
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You know, he's lying down. He didn't want to move.
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He was he was just so in despair at this news.
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We've got Scissora Scissor. Do you know that name?
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Scissor was a Canaanite commander and here he is.
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He's he's doing wrong. He's going after the people of
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God, but he thinks he's safe when he goes into a woman called
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jails tent. He thinks because there's some
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kind of, I can't think of the word right now, but you know, a,
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a family tire connection to, to this to this tribe, He thinks
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I'll be safe in here. So he goes into this tent, falls
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asleep and he wasn't safe at all.
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Jail covers his head. And then, yeah, without going
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into too much detail, let's just say she pitched a tent in the in
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the wrong place. And then as we've talked about
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before on this channel, we've got the the slow, full man who,
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you know, it's like he's on his hinges, turning to and fro on
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his bed. He's always lying down in bed.
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He, he always wants to fold his arms.
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He always wants to fall asleep. We need to be careful.
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So what am I trying to say here? What is my word of caution?
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We mustn't super spiritualize it.
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I think it's a great thing to remember God in prayer whilst
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you're lying down, but don't just remember him while you're
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lying down. Remember him while you're
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walking, remember Him while you're working, remember Him all
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day. Whatever you do, whether you eat
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or drink, do it's the glory of God.
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And there is something I would like to give a little warning
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against and just a little bit of honesty.
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So if you've got a Bible, one last Bible verse, Micah 2 verse
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one. Anyone else take anyone else?
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Take a really long time to find the book of Micah then don't
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feel like you're alone. Even the preacher man struggles
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to find some books in the Bible. Micah 2 verse one woe to those
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who plan iniquity, to those who plot evil on their beds at
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morning's light. They carry it out because it is
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in their power to do it. Now here's the harsh truth.
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Sometimes in beds we can do much sin.
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You know the story well. You're the lion, the moral, the
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devil makes work for idle hands. And if you're not able to pray,
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if your mind does get distracted, be careful.
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Now, this is particularly talking about men who actually
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really, I think it's talking about men who want to do really
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terrible things, evil things, you know, in bed.
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But I think we can also take it to a level of when our mind
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wanders. And this is what something I
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want to be honest with you. I have never found it easy to
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get out of bed, but I've got a strategy and and I have an alarm
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clock and it's one of those old fashioned ones that rings, you
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know, with the bell really, really loud.
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But I found if I put an alarm clock next to my bed or if I put
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it even on the other side of the room, and I'll quickly get back
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into bed after I've turned my alarm off.
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So what I do is I literally put it outside of the room so that
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once I'm up and out, that's it. I'm awake.
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Now I'm not going back to bed. But sometimes I do find if I
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miss my alarm clock or if I forget to set it, I will lie in
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bed and I'll know that my mind is wandering.
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My mind is thinking in pure things, things that I should not
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be thinking as as a Christian man.
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And I know sometimes I'm like, right, that's enough.
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Now get up. Just get up, Joe.
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Your mind is, is wandering into sin and that's really what I
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want to share with you. We shouldn't super spiritualize
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it. For some people it's a great
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thing to lie down and pray in bed, but we're all made
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differently. I do pray in bed sometimes and
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perhaps you do or sometimes you can't pray in bed.
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But I'm just trying to say we need to be careful and we need
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to be wise. Now, whilst we're on this theme
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of, you know, thinking, you know, wrong thoughts or impure
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thoughts, let me just share this with you.
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I know some of you have got a copy of this back in 2021.
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It was released in 2022. I wrote a book called 100 Pure
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Thoughts and some of you have got a copy of this book and I'm
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so grateful to those of you who got one.
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But I do want to let you know because I know, you know, it's
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not easy to, you know, the cost of these things, they can be a
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bit expensive and, and we're all in different situations.
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So actually here's some really, really good news hot off the
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press this week. This book has now been released
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fully, totally for free on the Bible app you version.
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So we put two parts of it on and in the Lord's grace, because
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they've taken off so well, we've decided to release the third
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part on there. So it's all totally for free.
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If you want to get that is all you need to do is go on the
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Bible app, the You Version Bible app and just search Purify your
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Mind series, Joe Kirby and you'll find Part 1, Part 2 and
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Part 3. And if you do do that, would you
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just do a favour for me? Would you leave a little review
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on Amazon and just tell us what you think of the book?
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Whether you've got some criticism that's great or if
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you've got something nice to say, please do leave that.
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It just helps the book to go out a bit more.
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And I have got another book that I am planning on releasing at
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some point. Just just pray for me for that.
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It's all written, but I've just made the decision on this one.
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I think I'm going to publish it myself and I need to somehow
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coordinate all of that. And as you know, you know, I
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struggle to answer emails, I struggle to get videos out.
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I'm just constantly on that, on that hamster treadmill,
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treadmill working all the time. But God is good.
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He's a gracious saviour and we look to him.
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And it's just been a real privilege to have coffee with
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you again. So God bless you all.
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If you want, if you've still got plenty of coffee left, why don't
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you watch this video here where I had a coffee with you and I
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was talking about things that we need to, you know, ways of
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sharing the gospel, something that I also believe is very,
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very important. God bless you all and thank you
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for watching.