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Speaker 1: Goodness is the report?
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm Danikiti Giorgio.
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Speaker 2: Coming up on the show tonight. Labour's green dream conexposed
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Speaker 2: with another wind farm project quietly shelved.
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Speaker 3: I'll have my say shortly.
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Speaker 2: Gutter politics, that's what the Coalition is calling the latest
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Speaker 2: smear campaign by labor on Peter Dutton, Wait till you
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Speaker 2: see the disgusting hit job.
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Speaker 3: Just how desperate are we?
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Speaker 2: Your rules allowing foreigners to join our defense force have
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Speaker 2: raised some eyebrows. Security expert Michael Schubridge will join us shortly.
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Speaker 2: And former US President Jimmy Carter has died. What legacy
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Speaker 2: did he leave behind and what lesson would Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: learn from him? That's later in the program, But first,
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Speaker 2: another nail in the coffin for Labour's renewables con Chris
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Speaker 2: Bowen's green fantasy has well and truly been exposed again
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Speaker 2: as another offshore wind farm project is dumped or quietly
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Speaker 2: shelved as it's being described, this time in South Australia.
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Speaker 2: But it's more evidence that Bowen really is making it
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Speaker 2: up as he goes along. This month, the partners behind
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Speaker 2: the Kingston project withdrew an application with federal environmental regulators
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Speaker 2: for the almost two billion dollar offshore wind farm project
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Speaker 2: in South Australia. Why, you might ask, without explanation, apparently,
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Speaker 2: oh dear another failed wind farm project.
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Speaker 3: In fact, it's the third.
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Speaker 2: Such failure in Australia in as many months. Welcome to
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Speaker 2: the circus that is Labor and Chris Bowen's renewable fantasy,
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Speaker 2: full of bright promises of green energy and cheaper bills,
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Speaker 2: and yet no delivery. It can't even get off the ground.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: I've been in Western Australia for the past two weeks
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Speaker 2: and I took a drive to a lovely part of
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Speaker 2: the state at the weekend called Bumbrey.
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Speaker 3: It's about two hours southwest of Perth.
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Speaker 2: If you know the area or no Wa in general,
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Speaker 2: you'll know it is renowned for its wonderful coastline and
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Speaker 2: beautiful beaches. So it was really nice to sit at
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Speaker 2: a cafe, have lunch.
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Speaker 3: And to overlook the water. But I couldn't help but.
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Speaker 2: Wonder how long the beautiful view from Bumbary will be
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Speaker 2: four Because, of course, Chris Bowen wants to corrupt that
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Speaker 2: particular stretch of coastline with his net zero monstrosities of
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Speaker 2: the sea wind farms, despite his assurances that even on
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Speaker 2: a good day you won't see the turbines. Now locals
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Speaker 2: here are rightly concerned about the impact to the pristine landscape,
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Speaker 2: the marine life, the whale migration, for example, and anyone
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Speaker 2: who was driven down the Forest Highway in Wa would
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Speaker 2: be aware that this coastline is a tourism hotspot, just
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Speaker 2: like in South Australia with the now scrapped Kingston wind
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Speaker 2: farm project. Now, the initial proposal there was knocked back
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Speaker 2: in August last year by the South Australian Planning Minister,
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Speaker 2: who believed the project had the potential to cause real
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Speaker 2: harm to local aquaculture and fishing industries.
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Speaker 3: In fact, under the original plan, the.
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Speaker 2: Closest of the turbines would have been about six point
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Speaker 2: five kilometers from the coast. I mean, can you imagine
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Speaker 2: the hideous site six k's off the coast. German Group
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Speaker 2: Skyborne said in the wake of the rejection, they continued
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Speaker 2: to push on with a plan to develop the project
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Speaker 2: further out to see but wholly within Commonwealth waters. And
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Speaker 2: that plan and now looks to be dead in the water.
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Speaker 2: And I've got to say. It is great news. Thank goodness,
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Speaker 2: another hideous I saw on our beautiful coastline has been stopped.
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Speaker 2: Thank goodness. Two billion dollars has been spared on a
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Speaker 2: project which only works half.
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Speaker 3: Of the time.
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Speaker 2: In fact, when locals raise the same environmental concerns about
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Speaker 2: the proposed wind farm in Western Australia, the same one
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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, Bowen delivered this genius response.
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Speaker 4: It's four thousand spero kilometers, seven thousand construction jobs, three
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Speaker 4: and a half thousand one going jobs.
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Speaker 3: We've listened to the community.
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Speaker 4: It's now forty one kilometers from Umbury, our fifty five
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Speaker 4: kilometers from Buston see one seed wind survines seaching ser
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Speaker 4: of the overlap with recreational fishing has been avoided. But
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Speaker 4: this is clean energy and lots of jobs and lots
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Speaker 4: of investment in an area that really deserty investment today.
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Speaker 2: Well, if that was the case, he certainly didn't alleviate
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Speaker 2: any concerns, because Bowen the Genius scaled back the WA
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Speaker 2: project to roughly half the size of the initial proposal,
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Speaker 2: just like he did in Victoria. He slashed the size
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Speaker 2: of the planned Southern Ocean offshore wind zone by eighty
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Speaker 2: percent amid concerns about wales and other marine wildlife. And
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Speaker 2: just like he did in New South Wales where a
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Speaker 2: wind farm zone along the Illawarra coast will now be
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Speaker 2: two thirds of its original proposed size and further off
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Speaker 2: the coast to protect little penguins, rocky reefs and the
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Speaker 2: southern bright whale.
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Speaker 3: And of course not to.
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Speaker 2: Mention it's now three strikes on canceled projects. In July,
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Speaker 2: Arch Energy pulled its plans for a four hundred and
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Speaker 2: thirty megawatt fifty four turbined wind farm between Armadale and
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Speaker 2: Cops Harbor in northern New South Wales after the deeming
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Speaker 2: the project no longer viable. In October, a proposal to
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Speaker 2: develop the sixty three turbine four hundred and forty one
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Speaker 2: megawatt Barney's Reefin Farm north of Golgong in central New
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Speaker 2: South Wales was ditched and now the latest a project
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Speaker 2: in South Australia, Chris Bowen is the minister with the
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Speaker 2: finger on the energy grid and is making it up
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Speaker 2: as he goes along, because every day it's something different,
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Speaker 2: from canceled projects to wind farms being dramatically scaled back,
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Speaker 2: all the while racking up costs faster than you can
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Speaker 2: blink at. How power bills keep going up. How is
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Speaker 2: Labour's target of getting to eighty two percent renewables by
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Speaker 2: twenty thirty going I would say it's completely unplugged.
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Speaker 3: Labor is so far behind.
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Speaker 2: The eight ball when it comes to its own renewables targets.
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Speaker 2: The risky renewables only experiment is set to cost US
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Speaker 2: five hundred and ninety five billion dollars and the rollout
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Speaker 2: is so.
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Speaker 3: Far behind schedule.
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Speaker 2: AEMO keeps warning that Australia must move faster to build
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Speaker 2: large scale renewable projects or risk blackouts and soaring energy prices.
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Speaker 3: And guess what we are already there?
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Speaker 2: In New South Wales we were asked to turn off
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Speaker 2: electricity during three to eight pm in November because the
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Speaker 2: grid was buckling in a heat wave. It's happened two
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Speaker 2: years in a row and we aren't even at the
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Speaker 2: peak of summer. All this is labor rushes to close
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Speaker 2: down coal plants, the only resources actually keeping the lights on.
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Speaker 2: Farmers too, have had enough of transmission lines on their properties.
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Speaker 2: Take New South Wales farmer James Peterson, for example, who
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Speaker 2: is dealing with transgrid pushing high voltage power lines through
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Speaker 2: his property from shonky fencing, bisecting his sheep paddocks to
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Speaker 2: dead use, having to spend hours on the phone dealing
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Speaker 2: with contractors.
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Speaker 3: Have a listen to this.
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Speaker 2: How often would you have to be dealing with people
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Speaker 2: from the transmission company?
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Speaker 5: The construction process is intermitt that at the moment, we're
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Speaker 5: on a daily basis.
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Speaker 3: And what's it like living with that?
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Speaker 5: Frustrating that it's a lot of time out of that day.
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Speaker 5: I think farmers out of you probably enough on their
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Speaker 5: plate without having to deal with transgred on a daily basis.
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Speaker 3: I mean, who has the time? It is utter madness.
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Speaker 2: James Peterson also said police rocked up to his house
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Speaker 2: to investigate criminal trespass on his own.
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Speaker 3: Property, the property he owns.
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Speaker 2: These are the farmers, the salt of this country, who
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Speaker 2: wake up every day and see these hideous transmission lines
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Speaker 2: razoring their land.
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Speaker 3: Also, Bowen and Co. Can connect solar and win generation
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Speaker 3: to the grid. I mean, this is green.
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Speaker 2: Vandalism in our own backyards, and we are still paying
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Speaker 2: more and all we get in return is botched landscape.
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Speaker 2: And I can't quite figure out What is more astonogy,
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Speaker 2: the green fantasy claims being peddled by labor, or the
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Speaker 2: fact labor expect us to believe it's green fantasy claims
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Speaker 2: which keep being pushed into the never never. This is
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Speaker 2: a government which has promised to bring down power bills
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Speaker 2: while at the same time it's jacked up power bills.
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Speaker 2: Is this seriously Labour's idea of a winning formula? Tell
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Speaker 2: Australians We're going to bring down power prices while increasing
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Speaker 2: power prices, And if we weren't so broken backwards in
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Speaker 2: this country, you'd laugh.
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Speaker 3: Three shelved wind farms in six months.
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Speaker 2: Tells you everything you need to know about the fast
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Speaker 2: Labor is peddling with its risky renewables only experiment. If
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Speaker 2: only the Minister for Energy and Climate Change could be.
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Speaker 3: Shelved two.
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Speaker 6: Joy me.
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Speaker 2: Now is Shadow Environment Minister Jonathan Dunham.
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Speaker 3: Jonathan, good to see you. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 3: joining me. I want to.
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Speaker 2: Start with yet another failed wind farm project. It's well,
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Speaker 2: as I said, it's three shelved offshore wind farm projects
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Speaker 2: in six months. I wonder if this is some sort
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Speaker 2: of record here in this country. But what's your response, Well.
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Speaker 7: What's it take to get through to a minister that
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Speaker 7: you plans not working, but it is actually bad for
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Speaker 7: our country, bad for the economy, and indeed bad for
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Speaker 7: the environment. If you've got proponents of projects like this
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Speaker 7: walking away because they just can't do business here, and
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Speaker 7: that is a hallmark of this government. I suspect the
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Speaker 7: non response when the proponent walked away from the project
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Speaker 7: was really them just saying we can't do business in
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Speaker 7: this country, like so many other proponents of projects across
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Speaker 7: the board. But the fact that three projects wind farms
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Speaker 7: have now been shelved, the fact that they're not meeting
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Speaker 7: their target for renewables.
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Speaker 6: As they promised they would.
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Speaker 7: Eighty two percent was the amount we were supposed to
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Speaker 7: be getting fed into the grid. We're well short of
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Speaker 7: that by the time that they proposed, and of course
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Speaker 7: that promise you've already mentioned by bringing power bills down
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Speaker 7: by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year by
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Speaker 7: next year, we're a long way off that. What is
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Speaker 7: it going to take for these people to drop their
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Speaker 7: relentless zelotry where they're wedded to green ideology, which is
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Speaker 7: not achieving any of the things They almost or said
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Speaker 7: that it would or any of the things that we
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Speaker 7: actually need, which is a lower set of power prices
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Speaker 7: across the country and a functioning economy. They are doing
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Speaker 7: everything they can to stop it, and as you rightly
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Speaker 7: point out, Chris Balen has no idea what he is doing,
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Speaker 7: and this government is all let's see on these sorts
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Speaker 7: of issues.
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Speaker 2: No, he's literally making it up as he goes along
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Speaker 2: day by day. And you know, Jonathan, with all these
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Speaker 2: wind farms not being able to get off the ground.
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Speaker 3: At the same time.
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Speaker 2: Labor is desperately rushing to shut down coalfiede power plants.
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Speaker 2: And yet we know in New South Wales I had
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Speaker 2: to extend the life.
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Speaker 3: Of a rah ring.
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Speaker 2: But it doesn't give you much hope, does it that
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Speaker 2: there is a plan to keep the lights on in
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Speaker 2: this country. Where are we going to get the electricity from?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, isn't it?
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Speaker 4: So?
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Speaker 7: No new wind, no coal, no new gas projects. Of course,
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Speaker 7: Dan's were outlawed a long time ago in my homestate
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Speaker 7: of Tasmania, courtesy of Bob Brown and that political party,
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Speaker 7: Stralian Greens, and of course now Labour are saying no nuclear.
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Speaker 7: That's the worst thing that we could ever do, so
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Speaker 7: they really are cutting off every avenue of opportunity. We
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Speaker 7: have to bring on new generation and the only way if,
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Speaker 7: as most Australians would know, that you can bring down
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Speaker 7: power prices is to increase supply, that basic law of economics.
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Speaker 7: But their plans which are to see coal exit the
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Speaker 7: grid to prevent nuclear from coming online, and we're going
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Speaker 7: to rely wholly on things like wind, solar and small
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Speaker 7: amounts of hydro that is not going to bring down
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Speaker 7: power prices, is not going to keep the lights on.
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Speaker 7: And the worst part is if you're looking to invest
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Speaker 7: in some sort of heavy industry manufacturing here, remembering where
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Speaker 7: a long way away from the rest of the world,
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Speaker 7: and so getting goods to market is costly. You've got
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Speaker 7: to have cheap energy and we won't have that. So
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Speaker 7: it's going to mean disastrous outcomes for jobs in this
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Speaker 7: country and again that'll flow onto the economy. But again
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Speaker 7: they don't see this because of their green ideology. Their's
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Speaker 7: zello tree and the people that are paying the price
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Speaker 7: are your viewers and the Australian tax players.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, because as I said, the power bills are going
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Speaker 2: up and up, even though we were promised they would
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Speaker 2: go down and we'll promise that two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 2: five dollars. It's just ridiculous. Now let's talk about native title.
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Speaker 2: We have seen the disastrous impact of it on many
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Speaker 2: projects across this country. You'd know, of course, most recently
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Speaker 2: that the Blaney gold Mine in New South Wales, which
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Speaker 2: was overturned at the last minute by a group of
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Speaker 2: about eighteen But now the WA government has apparently written
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Speaker 2: to Canberra asking for changes to the Native Title Act
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Speaker 2: to protect its resources industry. Jonathan, I'm not sure about
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Speaker 2: this myself, because the WA government when it comes to
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Speaker 2: Native title, I mean, it has its own massive faults there.
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Speaker 3: But how much leverage.
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Speaker 2: Do traditional owners currently have over the mining industry?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Denika, they have an exceptional amount of leverage as
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Speaker 7: we've seen. I mean this federal environment, sorry, federal cultural
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Speaker 7: heritage laws, the Aboriginal on Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act,
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Speaker 7: which is a piece of legislation that gives anyone who
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Speaker 7: claims to be Aboriginal or Torres Strait Island anywhere in
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Speaker 7: the country the capacity to kill off a project like
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Speaker 7: we saw, as you said before, with the Blainey Goldman
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Speaker 7: and it's happened elsewhere, and there are claims on foot
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Speaker 7: as we speak, and it is the most flawed, open
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Speaker 7: ended piece of legislation, something that if we win the
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Speaker 7: next election we will rewrite. We cannot allow this to
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Speaker 7: continue to be the case. For the most part, traditional owners,
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Speaker 7: Indigenous Australians, like every other Australian, simply want projects to
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Speaker 7: get up so that there is economic activity, so that
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Speaker 7: there are jobs for their young in their country and
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Speaker 7: in their communities. That's the kind of thing they want.
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Speaker 7: But there are a select few out there who in
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Speaker 7: partnership and often at the behest of green activists groups
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Speaker 7: like the Environmental Defender's Office that Labor give millions of
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Speaker 7: dollars of taxpayers money to every year, and they go
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Speaker 7: out and they weaponize Indigenous heritage claims and that puts
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Speaker 7: at risk projects, many of which we've discussed here tonight
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Speaker 7: and previously on the program. And so the leverage is
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Speaker 7: too much and we need to get the balance right.
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Speaker 7: And again that's something we if we are elected at
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Speaker 7: the next election, we'll get right. And people like just
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Speaker 7: Centerprice have called it out. People who want good things
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Speaker 7: to happen in their community are being weaponized by green
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Speaker 7: inter city activists and it's something that we have to stop.
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Speaker 3: Oh, look, absolutely, we have to stop. And I can't help.
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Speaker 2: But wonder, Jonathan, if there is some sort of an
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Speaker 2: agenda here, because we found out last week from the
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph that indigenous cultural conservation claims have targeted thirty
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Speaker 2: mining and pipeline projects, but just two renewables projects since
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Speaker 2: twenty twelve.
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Speaker 3: This all ties in, doesn't it. What's the agenda here?
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Speaker 7: It's passing strange and you can't with those numbers two
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Speaker 7: renewables projects and thirty resources projects. It is, frankly, as
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Speaker 7: I said before, the latest strategy being deployed by the
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Speaker 7: anti jobs and anti economic brigade aligned with political groups
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Speaker 7: like the Greens. And they all have different names and
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Speaker 7: they all sound friendly, but they are not. They're insidious
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Speaker 7: groups that seek to shut down our economy. And they've
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Speaker 7: gone from chaining themselves to machinery and forestry coups or
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Speaker 7: on mind sites, to registering claims under environmental law to
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Speaker 7: stop these projects, to now using Indigenous cultural heritage law
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Speaker 7: and sadly taking a lot of these traditional arner groups
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Speaker 7: on the journey with them and exploiting these laws, gaps
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Speaker 7: in the laws and loopholes and open ended laws and
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Speaker 7: stopping these projects. So their agenda is the same as
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Speaker 7: it's always been ever since Bob Brown founded the Greens.
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Speaker 7: They will stop at nothing to stop these projects and
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Speaker 7: it is bad news for our country. And again we've
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Speaker 7: got to titan these laws up to put a stop
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Speaker 7: to their job destroying, economy destroying agenda.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, otherwise we all suffer because of it.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan dunneam really good to speak with you. Thank you
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Speaker 2: very much for joining me on the show this evening. Well,
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Speaker 2: now to another bizarre failure of leadership from the Albanese
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Speaker 2: government when it comes to Australia's Jewish community. The Assistant
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Speaker 2: Minister for Multicultural Affairs, Julian Hill, who once accused Israel
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Speaker 2: of being hell bent on formalizing a policy of apartheid
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Speaker 2: and called for Australia to fast track formal recognition of
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Speaker 2: a Palestinian state, has been appointed as a middleman to
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Speaker 2: liais with leaders of Victoria's Adas Synagogue, which was burnt
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Speaker 2: to the ground in a terror attack last month. Now, look,
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Speaker 2: can someone please explain how this guy, who clearly does
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Speaker 2: not have Israel's best interest at heart has been appointed
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Speaker 2: as some sort of quasi liaison between Jewish synagogue leaders
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Speaker 2: and Anthony Albanesi.
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Speaker 3: It just seems as though it's a shocking tin ear appointment.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is Executive Council of Australian Jury co
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Speaker 2: CEO Alex Ripchin. Alex, really nice to speak with you
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Speaker 2: as always, Thank you for joining me.
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Speaker 3: Look, it's fair to.
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Speaker 2: Say we've come to expect nothing less from Labor when
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Speaker 2: it comes to these matters.
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Speaker 3: But I want to ask.
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Speaker 2: You, what do you think of Julian Hill's appointment in
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Speaker 2: this role.
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Speaker 8: Well, Denik, I think it's entirely consistent with the government's
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Speaker 8: approach and mindset ever since October seven. They very clearly
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Speaker 8: see no connection between demonizing Israel, using offensive and abusive
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Speaker 8: language towards its people, treating the state as a pariah,
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Speaker 8: denying entry visas to its ex politicians, failing to rule
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Speaker 8: out arresting its prime minister if you were to come
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Speaker 8: to our country. All of these measures, and soaring domestic antisemitism.
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Speaker 8: They view the two as being distinct and having no
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Speaker 8: connections with each other. But in reality, when the government
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Speaker 8: takes increasingly hostile and adversarial role in the relationship with
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Speaker 8: Israel treats it more like a rogue dictatorship rather than
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Speaker 8: a historic, ally and democratic state. It signals to wider
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Speaker 8: society that those who support Israel in Australia.
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Speaker 6: Which is principally the strange Jewish community, a fair game.
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Speaker 8: So I'm sure that Julian Hill was as appalled as
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Speaker 8: we all were by the dust fire bombing terror attack.
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Speaker 8: I have no doubt about that. I'm sure he'll try
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Speaker 8: to do his best with the task that has been given,
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Speaker 8: but I wish he would also take the time to
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Speaker 8: reflect on some of his own retric and how that
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Speaker 8: has contributed to the feedbong environment in our country in
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Speaker 8: which a synagogue can burn.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just think, as I said, it's just such
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Speaker 2: a bizarre appointment, but we don't expect anything less at
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Speaker 2: this point. And just on this terror attack, I've got
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Speaker 2: to ask you, it's been four weeks since that attack
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Speaker 2: on the synagogue, no rests have been made as of yet.
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Speaker 2: How confident are you that everything is being done to
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Speaker 2: find those involved.
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Speaker 8: I have absolute confidence in law enforcement and security agencies
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Speaker 8: in this country. I have absolutely no doubt that they
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Speaker 8: want to bring these perpetrators to justice. This was a
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Speaker 8: deplorable attack, not merely on the Jewish community and the
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Speaker 8: Dust community, but on religious freedom and freedoms of all
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Speaker 8: kinds in this country. And we need to determine who
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Speaker 8: did this, why, what their motivations were, what ideology, if any,
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Speaker 8: of their link to and if there's an ongoing threat
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Speaker 8: to communal assets and the community at large in this country.
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Speaker 8: So I'm sure the authorities are doing everything they can.
20:32
Speaker 8: But with these sorts of attacks, you know, when you
20:34
Speaker 8: talk about us and attacks, a lot of the physical
20:36
Speaker 8: evidence is destroyed.
20:37
Speaker 6: It's difficult to determine who was involved.
20:40
Speaker 8: They were clearly conscious of the security cameras that were
20:43
Speaker 8: around the facility. They were covered up by all accounts.
20:46
Speaker 8: But I'm sure the authorities will do whatever they can
20:48
Speaker 8: to bring these people to justice because the community in
20:50
Speaker 8: wider society demands answers.
20:52
Speaker 6: They want to see justice as quickly as possible.
20:56
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we all do for sure. Now.
20:59
Speaker 2: A europe taught by Israel's Ministry of Health has detailed
21:02
Speaker 2: the abuse of hostages held by.
21:04
Speaker 3: Hamas inside Gaza.
21:07
Speaker 2: This includes sexual violence against children, torture and starvation, amongst
21:12
Speaker 2: many things, Alex. The details really do make for a
21:16
Speaker 2: harrowing read, and it puts into perspective because you know,
21:19
Speaker 2: Western countries they're seeking to really punish Israel for defending itself.
21:23
Speaker 3: Against these monsters. Israel has the right.
21:25
Speaker 2: To save its captive citizens, must surrender and release the hostages.
21:32
Speaker 8: Absolutely, And like you said, it makes for harrowing reading.
21:35
Speaker 8: It confirms everything that we dreaded and feared was transpiring
21:40
Speaker 8: and knew was transpiring. But this provides that further evidence
21:43
Speaker 8: of those horrors of what these people are going through.
21:46
Speaker 8: And it really is an indictment of world governments, of
21:49
Speaker 8: the international system of human rights organizations that have entirely
21:53
Speaker 8: abandoned these people, and not only abandoned them, but actually,
21:56
Speaker 8: as you say, have turned on Israel, have completely forgot
22:00
Speaker 8: and why Israel as of war, Why the destruction of
22:02
Speaker 8: Hamas is such a moral imperative of our time? And
22:05
Speaker 8: when you have so called human rights organizations like UNICEF
22:08
Speaker 8: and Save the Children supposedly concerned with the plight of
22:12
Speaker 8: children around the world, and you have the Bibas kids
22:15
Speaker 8: nine months old and four years old still held captive
22:18
Speaker 8: there in Hell, and nothing has been done for them.
22:21
Speaker 8: When you have groups like Amusin International, which were founded
22:24
Speaker 8: to fight for the liberation of those held wrongly in custody,
22:28
Speaker 8: and all they do is wage campaigns against Israel, accusing
22:31
Speaker 8: them of everything under the sun. This is an indictment
22:34
Speaker 8: of the morality of those organizations. And long after this
22:37
Speaker 8: war ends and the hostages, God willing, are free, those
22:40
Speaker 8: organizations will stand damned for what they've done.
22:43
Speaker 6: And I hope the public.
22:44
Speaker 8: Long remembers their moral corruption and decay that led to
22:47
Speaker 8: these sorts of decisions.
22:49
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and also the Western nations who have failed to
22:53
Speaker 2: support Israel in its time of need whilst trying to
22:55
Speaker 2: defend itself from such monsters. And I'm sure Israel won't
22:58
Speaker 2: forget that either. One more topic, Alex, the latest ceasefire
23:03
Speaker 2: negotiations have.
23:04
Speaker 3: Reached a deadlock.
23:06
Speaker 2: How confident are you that things might actually change when
23:09
Speaker 2: Donald Trump gets it and he has already said that
23:12
Speaker 2: all hell will break loose unless Hummas releases the hostages.
23:15
Speaker 3: Is that what.
23:16
Speaker 2: Israel is waiting on now the Donald Trump inauguration to
23:20
Speaker 2: see what might happen.
23:22
Speaker 8: Well, Lizrael won't be waiting on anything, because it knows
23:25
Speaker 8: the situation which its citizens are being held, and from
23:28
Speaker 8: the beginning, through diplomatic means and military means and intelligence,
23:33
Speaker 8: it has tried to do whatever it can to bring
23:34
Speaker 8: those people home and liberate them, because Hummas certainly won't,
23:38
Speaker 8: and then social community won't. But I'm wary of who
23:41
Speaker 8: we're dealing with here. Hummas is not a rational actor.
23:44
Speaker 8: This is an evil organization for which human life and
23:48
Speaker 8: human dignity is a punchline. And all the way through
23:52
Speaker 8: this they've tried not only to terrorize the Israeli people
23:54
Speaker 8: through the ultra violence of October seven, but through psychological
23:58
Speaker 8: warfare and fear. But every time they talk about being
24:02
Speaker 8: close to a ceasefire, it is a ploy to elevate
24:05
Speaker 8: hope in Israel and therefore lead to greater pressure on
24:09
Speaker 8: the Israeli government, lead to unrest and street protests, to
24:12
Speaker 8: paralyze the state. This is what Hummas is planning for.
24:15
Speaker 8: This is what they're trying to execute. They know they
24:17
Speaker 8: can't defeat Israel militarily, but they're trying to break the
24:20
Speaker 8: society apart. And inevitably when these talks fail, because Hummas
24:24
Speaker 8: wants them to fail, they have no interest in ending
24:26
Speaker 8: this war. The Israeli people will look to their own
24:29
Speaker 8: government for answers. But I hope people realize that when
24:32
Speaker 8: you're dealing with hummas, the only language they understand is force,
24:35
Speaker 8: and this is not a rational life that seeks peace.
24:37
Speaker 8: They seek destruction and death and annihilation at all costs.
24:43
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:44
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Well, look, Alex's fingers crossed for a better twenty
24:48
Speaker 2: and twenty five to bring the hostages home. That's all
24:52
Speaker 2: I think we all really really want to see. Alex Ripchin.
24:54
Speaker 2: Always great to speak with you. Thank you for your
24:56
Speaker 2: time on the show this evening.
24:58
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
24:59
Speaker 2: We'll stay with us after the break new rules allowing
25:01
Speaker 2: foreigners to join our defense force. But is the increasingly
25:05
Speaker 2: woke force to blame for its failure to recruit locally?
25:08
Speaker 2: Security expert Michael Schubridge will join us after this.
25:15
Speaker 3: Welcome back?
25:16
Speaker 2: Is this an ominous warning sign Australia's defense force is
25:19
Speaker 2: in a complete shambles? Canadian, American and British citizens will
25:23
Speaker 2: be eligible to join Australia's defense forces by the end
25:27
Speaker 2: of next week, as the government reveals four hundred New
25:30
Speaker 2: Zealand residents have applied to be part of the EIGHTYF
25:34
Speaker 2: since July. Now We know the force is facing a
25:37
Speaker 2: short fall of nearly four thousand, five hundred troops as it.
25:42
Speaker 3: Is, but it only has itself to blame.
25:45
Speaker 2: You see, Defense has spent more time politicizing gender politics
25:50
Speaker 2: than it has actually creating genuine opportunities to attract recruits.
25:55
Speaker 3: You only need to look at its careers.
25:57
Speaker 2: Website, which asks aspiring soldiers, sailors and fighter pilots what
26:01
Speaker 2: their pronouns are, whether they are non binary, gender diverse questioning,
26:08
Speaker 2: or if their gender is X or indeterminate sex. Joining
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Speaker 2: me now is Strategic Analysis Australia Director Michael Schubridge, Michael, good.
26:18
Speaker 3: To see you.
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Speaker 2: Are you surprised that we have to look overseas for recruits?
26:21
Speaker 2: Why can't we attract Australians?
26:25
Speaker 9: Well, Di Niger, I'm not surprised that Defense is in
26:28
Speaker 9: such a mess with its workforce and recruiting that it's
26:32
Speaker 9: looking overseas. But the countries it's looking to, Canada, the UK,
26:36
Speaker 9: US and New Zealand have big workforce challenges themselves, so
26:40
Speaker 9: it's not going to solve the problem. The real reason
26:43
Speaker 9: that our military isn't attracting young Australians to join it
26:47
Speaker 9: is there are so many overpaid senior leaders that junior
26:51
Speaker 9: people have to ask permission to even make a photocopy.
26:55
Speaker 9: And the second thing is young Australians just aren't excited
26:58
Speaker 9: to wait a decade and more for one new submarine
27:01
Speaker 9: to turn up. They want to get their hands on
27:03
Speaker 9: new digital and drone technologies that are changing the world
27:07
Speaker 9: of warfare. And the senior leadership is out of touch,
27:10
Speaker 9: so they're focusing on the wrong problems.
27:15
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's very clear from a lot of
27:17
Speaker 2: red tape. As you said to Gender Matters, I mean,
27:21
Speaker 2: this is ridiculous. But I've got to ask you know,
27:23
Speaker 2: what does this say about our readiness and preparedness in
27:27
Speaker 2: the event of war or if we were attacked that
27:30
Speaker 2: we simply just can't retain and recruit local talent.
27:36
Speaker 9: Well, it's a leadership failure in the organization, in the
27:40
Speaker 9: civilian side and the military side. So these senior officers
27:44
Speaker 9: really need to take some accountability and responsibility for eight
27:48
Speaker 9: years of failure. They need to understand what young Australians
27:53
Speaker 9: see when they look at our military. They don't see
27:56
Speaker 9: it as having the best high technology equipment and they
28:00
Speaker 9: see it as with a bunch of senior people who
28:04
Speaker 9: are out of touch.
28:07
Speaker 2: Well, one of the solutions that is being put forward
28:10
Speaker 2: by Defense is a phone app to help Defense Force
28:15
Speaker 2: members and potential candidates track their fitness and access mental
28:19
Speaker 2: health supports as part of a broader effort to bolster
28:23
Speaker 2: those dire recruitment figures.
28:26
Speaker 1: Michael.
28:26
Speaker 3: It's called the adf Ready App and it'll be rolled
28:29
Speaker 3: out from January. Is this app.
28:31
Speaker 2: Really going to work? Is this the solution to defenses problems?
28:37
Speaker 5: No?
28:38
Speaker 9: An app developed by a government department. Here in Canberra,
28:42
Speaker 9: where watching the debarcle of the my Way public transport
28:46
Speaker 9: app developed by a government department, fitness apps on your
28:50
Speaker 9: phone have proliferated. This is another example of focusing on
28:54
Speaker 9: the wrong problem and the senior leadership in Defense not
28:59
Speaker 9: understanding even the world of the Apple app store.
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Speaker 3: I just think it's just bizarre.
29:06
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many problems Michael in the Defense Force,
29:10
Speaker 2: and the priority going into two thy and twenty five
29:14
Speaker 2: is an adf ready app. It just tells you everything
29:17
Speaker 2: you need to know about the state of defense. But look,
29:19
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about other issues overseas. Because
29:22
Speaker 2: Australia's top military officer in London has warned, Russia's use
29:27
Speaker 2: of North Korean and Iranian forces to destroy Ukraine is
29:31
Speaker 2: everyone's business. This is from Brigadier Grant Mason. He said,
29:35
Speaker 2: it is a bigger and more devastating war than either
29:39
Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties Korean War or the more than decade
29:43
Speaker 2: long conflict in Vietnam. Michael, do you agree with that?
29:48
Speaker 9: Well, I think it's fantastic, first of all, to have
29:51
Speaker 9: Brigadier Mason able to speak publicly without being muzzled by
29:55
Speaker 9: a government media minder, So that's terrific. The Korean War
29:59
Speaker 9: had two to three million civilian deaths at about a
30:02
Speaker 9: million war casualties. Ukraine hasn't approached that yet, although the
30:06
Speaker 9: Russians have suffered about seven hundred thousand deaths. Brigadier Mason's right, though,
30:11
Speaker 9: that the most disturbing part for Australia is the China
30:15
Speaker 9: Russia North Korea Iran partnership, particularly China's essential industrial and
30:21
Speaker 9: strategic support. That's big news and we're not hearing that
30:24
Speaker 9: message from our government.
30:28
Speaker 2: What about in terms of Ukraine though, saying that it
30:32
Speaker 2: is everybody's business, do you agree with that that there.
30:35
Speaker 3: Needs to be more focus on that conflict well, yes,
30:40
Speaker 3: I do.
30:41
Speaker 9: That group of Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea are
30:45
Speaker 9: a close strategic partnership of autocracies who what are damaged
30:50
Speaker 9: the way the world works and damaged democracies everywhere in
30:54
Speaker 9: Europe and in our part of the world. So it's
30:56
Speaker 9: got major implications for US, and it's changing the way
31:00
Speaker 9: way wars are thought. That has major implications for US.
31:04
Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be interesting moving forward because Donald
31:07
Speaker 2: Trump is expected to actually wind back US involvement in
31:11
Speaker 2: that conflict. Where would that leave Australia in its support
31:14
Speaker 2: of Ukraine.
31:17
Speaker 9: Well, let's see what Donald Trump does about Ukraine, not
31:21
Speaker 9: just what he says, because he doesn't want an Afghanistan
31:25
Speaker 9: type withdrawal and collapse on his hands, which has been
31:28
Speaker 9: so critical of Biden for. But the big message Trump
31:31
Speaker 9: is sending to all you as allies is we need
31:34
Speaker 9: to do more for ourselves. So he wants the Europeans
31:38
Speaker 9: to step up in Ukraine, but he wants Japan, Australia
31:41
Speaker 9: and South Korea to step up in our part of
31:44
Speaker 9: the world. That means defense spending and equipping our military
31:48
Speaker 9: instead of producing fitness apps.
31:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, and gender politics as well might be two really
31:56
Speaker 2: good starts there, Michael Schubridge, Happy New Year. Really appreciate
32:00
Speaker 2: your time on the show this evening. Thank you so
32:01
Speaker 2: much for joining me. Well, after the break, guta politics
32:05
Speaker 2: that reeks of desperation. I'll show you the latest smear
32:08
Speaker 2: campaign by labor On Peter Dutton.
32:10
Speaker 3: Wait till you see the disgusting hit job after this,
32:17
Speaker 3: welcome back. Well.
32:18
Speaker 2: Former US President Jimmy Carter has died at the age
32:21
Speaker 2: of one hundred. He was the thirty ninth Commander in chief.
32:25
Speaker 2: Joining me is sky New's contributor Bo Davidson. Bo, Good
32:29
Speaker 2: to see you, Thank you for joining me. What legacy
32:32
Speaker 2: does Jimmy Carter leave.
32:34
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, he lived to be one hundred
32:36
Speaker 10: years old, and he's the only president to live to
32:39
Speaker 10: be one hundred years old, and I think that's a
32:40
Speaker 10: legacy in and of itself. And President Elect Trump said
32:43
Speaker 10: that we owe him a great deal of gratitude, and
32:46
Speaker 10: I think that's true because Jimmy Carter faced America's challenges
32:49
Speaker 10: with great fortitude and with faith, and I think that's
32:52
Speaker 10: to be respected. He also didn't exploit America. I think
32:56
Speaker 10: a lot of the way that some of his modern
32:58
Speaker 10: Democrat presidents and colleagues have done, and I think that's
33:01
Speaker 10: really unfortunate. So I respect Jimmy Carter for not exploiting
33:04
Speaker 10: America the way a lot of modern Democrat presidents have done.
33:06
Speaker 10: But of course, his crowning achievement I think was, of
33:09
Speaker 10: course the Carter Peace Accords, the Camp David Accords of
33:13
Speaker 10: nineteen seventy eight between Israel and Egypt. That will go
33:16
Speaker 10: down incredibly in his legacy. But I also think d
33:18
Speaker 10: Nika that his legacy will be incredibly remarked by his
33:23
Speaker 10: continued work after his presidency, which we call a second act.
33:27
Speaker 10: And of course I'm referring to his philanthropy and his charity,
33:29
Speaker 10: the Carter Work Project Habitat for Humanity. I actually had
33:32
Speaker 10: the unique opportunity to work on a Habitat for Humanity
33:35
Speaker 10: house and build the home, and there's just a sense
33:37
Speaker 10: of community that comes with that that I think.
33:39
Speaker 1: That's really admirable.
33:40
Speaker 10: So, you know, it's not always what a president does
33:43
Speaker 10: during his presidency that determines his legacy, but what he
33:46
Speaker 10: does afterwards. And I think that Jimmy Carter's faith, his fortitude,
33:50
Speaker 10: his character, and his dignity.
33:51
Speaker 1: Will be remembered. So that's what Jimmy Carter will be
33:54
Speaker 1: known for. And it's a great legacy.
33:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and you are right.
33:58
Speaker 2: I mean, living to one hundred, he's a legacy in itself.
34:02
Speaker 2: Now let's move on because I have to ask you
34:04
Speaker 2: about Joe Biden, who was reportedly suffering from a new
34:07
Speaker 2: cognitive illness, this time in the form.
34:09
Speaker 3: Of regrets and possible delusion.
34:12
Speaker 2: The president reportedly regrets having pulled out of this year's
34:16
Speaker 2: presidential race and believes he would have defeated Donald.
34:20
Speaker 3: Trump in last month's election.
34:22
Speaker 2: Bo, how do you interpret these so called reflections by
34:26
Speaker 2: Joe Biden.
34:28
Speaker 10: Well, Number one, I don't think he withdrew. I think
34:30
Speaker 10: he was ousted. I think he was forced out. I
34:32
Speaker 10: think it was a cue. Number two, I think that
34:35
Speaker 10: every sign pointed to him losing, perhaps even worse than Kamala.
34:39
Speaker 10: You know, after that first debate performance, his shuffling, his stumbling,
34:43
Speaker 10: his mumbling around, it was going to get worse. It
34:45
Speaker 10: did not bode well for Joe Biden to stay in
34:48
Speaker 10: the reason and that's why I say I think he
34:49
Speaker 10: potentially could have lost the race even worse than Kamala did.
34:52
Speaker 10: But it's interesting says, we're talking about Jimmy Carter, because
34:55
Speaker 10: when asked what President Trump could learn from Jimmy Carter,
34:57
Speaker 10: Joe Biden said decency.
35:00
Speaker 1: You know what, Actually, Joe Biden could learn from that too.
35:02
Speaker 10: Because there's an old saying that goes you get out
35:04
Speaker 10: when the getting's good, and that's something Joe Biden didn't do.
35:07
Speaker 10: I think his legacy would be remembered a lot better
35:10
Speaker 10: and would be kinder to him if he got out
35:12
Speaker 10: when the getting was good, but he didn't. He selfishly
35:15
Speaker 10: stayed in. His wife Jill kept him in the race.
35:17
Speaker 10: He didn't need to be in the race because cognitively
35:19
Speaker 10: he couldn't do it. And so, to be honest with you,
35:22
Speaker 10: I think had he withdrawn earlier and had not even
35:25
Speaker 10: sought a second term, he would have saved himself some decency,
35:28
Speaker 10: He would have saved himself some dignity.
35:29
Speaker 1: But he didn't do that.
35:30
Speaker 10: So Jimmy Carter's legacy will be remembered for philanthropy, while
35:34
Speaker 10: I think Joe Biden's legacy will be remembered by poopy pants.
35:39
Speaker 3: Exactly he did. He wrecked his own legacy in the end.
35:43
Speaker 3: I totally agree. Now, let's talk about billionaires who.
35:47
Speaker 2: Have previously feuded with Donald Trump but are now cozying
35:51
Speaker 2: up to him and coughing up seven figure inaugural donations. Meta,
35:56
Speaker 2: of course, headed by Mark Zuckerberg, suspended Trump's Facebook and
35:59
Speaker 2: Instagram act in twenty twenty one after the January sixth riots.
36:04
Speaker 3: And now we find out that.
36:05
Speaker 2: Zuckerberg met with the incoming president at Mari Lago a
36:09
Speaker 2: few weeks ago and handed him a one million dollar donation.
36:13
Speaker 2: And the same goes for Amazon's billionaire founder Jeff Bezos,
36:17
Speaker 2: who has also in the past clashed with Trump, but
36:19
Speaker 2: he's now donating to that inauguration fund.
36:22
Speaker 3: Bo. I guess it is better to be in the
36:25
Speaker 3: Trump crowd than not.
36:28
Speaker 10: Yeah, and you know, I've actually had an interesting story
36:29
Speaker 10: about this, Danika personal story. Just a few weeks ago,
36:32
Speaker 10: just before Christmas, I actually had the opportunity to have
36:34
Speaker 10: dinner at mar Lago. And it's pretty rare that this
36:36
Speaker 10: would happen, but I had that opportunity, and someone had
36:38
Speaker 10: told me that Jeff Bezos might be there.
36:40
Speaker 1: Meeting with Trump. But I thought, well, I'll never see him.
36:42
Speaker 1: You know, what are the chances of that?
36:43
Speaker 10: Are the chances of me me seeing Donald Trump, and
36:45
Speaker 10: I'm sitting there, and of course outside in walks Donald
36:48
Speaker 10: Trump with Millennia and with them accompanying them as Jeff
36:51
Speaker 10: Bezos and his girlfriend, and they sit down to more
36:54
Speaker 10: than twenty feet from me. I couldn't believe it. It
36:56
Speaker 10: was just like, this is actually happening. And I'm sitting
36:58
Speaker 10: there watching the exchange play and trees laugh. There's a
37:01
Speaker 10: lot of great humor and things going on. I can't
37:03
Speaker 10: decipher the conversation, of course. And then in saunters a
37:06
Speaker 10: bomber jacket clad Elon Musk, and I don't even think
37:09
Speaker 10: he was supposed to be there because he kind of
37:11
Speaker 10: just pulled up a chair. His son eventually came over.
37:14
Speaker 10: Trump starts dejaying on the iPad. It was like, Dinika,
37:17
Speaker 10: this is like a trillion dollars of net worth sitting
37:20
Speaker 10: at the same table, and they're not even really hiding
37:23
Speaker 10: the fact of what they're doing and meeting with each other.
37:25
Speaker 10: And so what I'm to say that is, I think
37:27
Speaker 10: it's great, because you know what, it's good to be
37:29
Speaker 10: the game, but it's also good to.
37:30
Speaker 1: Be friends with the game. It's simply good business acumen.
37:33
Speaker 10: Because you think about it, Trump said he would make
37:35
Speaker 10: America great again. He said would make the economy great again.
37:38
Speaker 10: So it only makes sense for him to meet with
37:40
Speaker 10: business leaders, whether it's Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, whoever,
37:44
Speaker 10: to find out how to bring jobs back to the
37:46
Speaker 10: United States, how to make the American economy healthier, more robust,
37:50
Speaker 10: what can we do, what does that government private partnership
37:53
Speaker 10: look like? And he's already got one hundred million dollar
37:55
Speaker 10: investment from Softbanks, So I think we're seeing that Donald
37:57
Speaker 10: Trump is starting to move and shake even before he
38:00
Speaker 10: becomes presidency. So the where I see it is, you
38:02
Speaker 10: know what, it's simply good business.
38:05
Speaker 2: Acumen, absolutely, and we do know that Donald Trump is
38:09
Speaker 2: a brilliant businessman at that bo Davidson always good to chat.
38:14
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your time.
38:16
Speaker 1: Likewise, and happy New Year.
38:18
Speaker 2: Well, just when we thought labor couldn't get any more
38:21
Speaker 2: tiresome and desperate, the Victorian Branches launched this ad campaign
38:25
Speaker 2: featuring Peter Dutton and his wife.
38:28
Speaker 3: It says we all know that one couple.
38:31
Speaker 2: The post reads justifying dating your new partner to your
38:35
Speaker 2: friends who don't like him, with the headline He's not
38:39
Speaker 2: a monster and well, all I can say is that's
38:43
Speaker 2: when you know the polls are not going your way.
38:46
Speaker 2: Joining me is Skynyear's contributor James Bolt and One Nation
38:49
Speaker 2: chief of staff James Ashby. Hi to both of you.
38:52
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me. James Ashby. Is this a
38:55
Speaker 2: new low for labor.
38:58
Speaker 11: No, this is Labor just for turning to their traditional
39:01
Speaker 11: roots when the going gets tough, you play the man,
39:04
Speaker 11: not the ball. And that's precisely what they're doing in Victoria.
39:07
Speaker 11: And is it any wonder why Peter Dutton has sent
39:09
Speaker 11: a surge in his popularity by five percent in that state.
39:13
Speaker 11: This is going to be an all out war come
39:15
Speaker 11: election time. What it does tell me, though, is that
39:18
Speaker 11: we're not going to an early election. This is a
39:21
Speaker 11: Labor party that is so on the rights when it
39:24
Speaker 11: comes to electoral success. It won't happen for a second term, certainly,
39:28
Speaker 11: not having government in their own right. But this is
39:31
Speaker 11: also a government throughout this term. Had called for misinformation
39:36
Speaker 11: and disinformation bills. They'd called for truth in political advertising.
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Speaker 11: They'd called for less bullying in politics to try and
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Speaker 11: attrack more women and more family focused participants in the
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Speaker 11: electoral system itself, and what have they done. No, they
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Speaker 11: are playing the man, and that is precisely what people
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Speaker 11: don't want at this upcoming election. They're tired of these
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Speaker 11: grubby deals and grubby spear campaigns. For anyone who knows
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Speaker 11: Peter Dutton ten years as a copper, he spent the
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Speaker 11: last however many decades now in politics. He is a
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Speaker 11: decent man. He isn't a monster. His wife is a
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Speaker 11: terrific lady. I've had the pleasure of meeting before, and
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Speaker 11: I think anyone who takes a good hard look at
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Speaker 11: latest campaign, it's fallen over and all they're resorting to
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Speaker 11: now is name calling, yeah.
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Speaker 2: And childhood and high school bullying tactics. It's going down
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Speaker 2: the pathway of their nuclear scare campaign. It's ridiculous, James Bolt,
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Speaker 2: What does this sort of gutter politics suggest?
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Speaker 12: Well, as James said, they're choosing to play the man,
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Speaker 12: not the ball, and it's because they can't play the ball.
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Speaker 12: They just really have no ideas in which to sell
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Speaker 12: to the public, so the only thing they have left
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Speaker 12: is to attack Peter Dunton. The other interesting thing about
40:53
Speaker 12: this is that it's an article from five years ago
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Speaker 12: that they've chosen to use now that makes me wonder
40:59
Speaker 12: is that nothing in the tank from the last five
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Speaker 12: years of Peter Dutton that the Labor Victorian Labor Party
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Speaker 12: can think, hang on, that's the one to go with.
41:06
Speaker 12: That's the one people recognize, people remember, and people are
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Speaker 12: going to hate Peter Dutton. It's nothing really to unify
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Speaker 12: against him. And that's because what that makes me think
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Speaker 12: is back in twenty and twenty two, the Labor Party
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Speaker 12: was able to get into power because the Australian public
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Speaker 12: hated Scott Morrison. They hated him so much they were
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Speaker 12: electing toals. Now, if Labour can't recreate the same level
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Speaker 12: of hatred that was going towards Peter Dutton, they are
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Speaker 12: not going to win the next campaign. I think it's
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Speaker 12: very interesting that they have to reach so far back
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Speaker 12: in the tank to find something worth using.
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Speaker 2: Well, that just wrenks of desperation that they've gone so
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Speaker 2: far back into the archives and that's all that they've
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Speaker 2: got to show, and what they have put up on
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Speaker 2: the table is just an absolute shocker. Now, you alluded
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Speaker 2: to this one before, but I want to go into
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Speaker 2: the latest polling because Labor is losing ground in the
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Speaker 2: nation's two most popular states. That's according to the latest
41:59
Speaker 2: Resolve Medical monitor saying that Labour's primary vote has dropped
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Speaker 2: from thirty three to twenty nine percent in both New
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Speaker 2: South Wales and Victoria, putting Labor on course for defeat
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Speaker 2: in key electorates, but also interesting voters in the battleground
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Speaker 2: state of Western Australia where I am right now, they're
42:17
Speaker 2: also turning away from Labor. James Ashby, what do you
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Speaker 2: think this means for Peter Dutton?
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Speaker 3: Could he win a majority?
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Speaker 11: Well, I'd like to hope.
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Speaker 3: So.
42:31
Speaker 11: Look, I always say to people, put number one in
42:33
Speaker 11: the box for One Nation, but do as we say
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Speaker 11: and put Labor and the Greens last. Therefore, give the
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Speaker 11: coalition their own right to govern without the misfits like
42:44
Speaker 11: the Tears, like the Greens, like some of those cross
42:46
Speaker 11: bench members that have popped up over recent years and
42:50
Speaker 11: have held the Lower House to ransom the Senate. Different case.
42:53
Speaker 11: I think that's the checks and balances that need to
42:56
Speaker 11: be had in our parliament. Again. I don't want to
42:58
Speaker 11: see the Greens hold that of powered. Rather more like
43:01
Speaker 11: minded conservative parties like One Nation get that chance to
43:04
Speaker 11: hold a coalition government to account if they are successful.
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Speaker 11: I hope they truly are. There needs to be significant change.
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Speaker 11: There hasn't been a focus on our economy here. In
43:15
Speaker 11: fact that all we've seen is out of control inflation.
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Speaker 11: And we know what happens to countries who have hyperinflation.
43:22
Speaker 11: They are at the bottom of the OECD nations. In fact,
43:26
Speaker 11: they're some of the worst performing countries in the world,
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Speaker 11: some of which we're very prosperous once upon a time,
43:31
Speaker 11: and Labor are sending us down that same path. Hyper
43:34
Speaker 11: Inflation has been no good for anybody. I think household
43:37
Speaker 11: budgets are feeling it. We know that prices have gone
43:39
Speaker 11: through the roof and it's all been on the watch
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Speaker 11: of this labor government. People recognize that, they know this
43:45
Speaker 11: has been a treacherous government with very poor leadership, and
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Speaker 11: majority of the time this leadership under Anthony Alberezi and
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Speaker 11: many of these ministers, they've either been incompetent or out
43:56
Speaker 11: of the country, and so Australians are waking up to
43:59
Speaker 11: that they want change. I hope that Peter Dutton does
44:03
Speaker 11: get a mandate after this next federal election and he's
44:07
Speaker 11: given that power to control the lower House in his
44:09
Speaker 11: own right.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, fingers crossed.
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Speaker 2: But you know you're right that labor has sent this
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Speaker 2: country broke and backward in every single way. It's been
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Speaker 2: a shocking two years. And James Bolt, it's another bad
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Speaker 2: poll for labor and Albow. It's another trend. It's been
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Speaker 2: a trend for a number of months now, hasn't it,
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Speaker 2: where the polls show that voters are no longer responding
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Speaker 2: to labor.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's another drop in a massive sea of bad polling.
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Speaker 12: And I just think it's getting to the point where
44:43
Speaker 12: Australians are starting to tune this government out. And once
44:46
Speaker 12: they've tuned them out, they're not going to start listening
44:48
Speaker 12: again anytime soon. Again, back to the twenty twenty two election,
44:51
Speaker 12: there was nothing the Liberal Party could do to reclaim
44:54
Speaker 12: the narrative and make it look like they are in
44:56
Speaker 12: charge because voters just we're not listening and that's what'swept labored.
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Speaker 12: I think labor in a big problem here because there's
45:04
Speaker 12: just nothing they can do to arrest this decline. There's
45:07
Speaker 12: no big announcement they can make, there's no big story
45:10
Speaker 12: that they are on top of and surging your head on.
45:12
Speaker 12: I really think James bought the idea of a later election.
45:16
Speaker 12: I think if the next Reserve Bank comes back with
45:20
Speaker 12: a cash rate card, I think the alben easy to
45:24
Speaker 12: be going to the Governor General's office that afternoon, because
45:26
Speaker 12: that is the one last thing I can think of
45:29
Speaker 12: that labor can possibly seem to be in charge and
45:32
Speaker 12: on top of And if they don't get that, or
45:34
Speaker 12: if they do get that, and voters still just go,
45:36
Speaker 12: you know what, one is better, but we're still done
45:38
Speaker 12: with you.
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Speaker 6: That's all it is.
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Speaker 2: But James Bold, do you think that that's enough still?
45:45
Speaker 2: Do you think that that's enough? Just a rate cut
45:48
Speaker 2: for Ossie's to go, Okay, well we've got the rate
45:50
Speaker 2: cut now, so we can move on from the past
45:52
Speaker 2: two years of bad policy.
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Speaker 3: Is that enough in your view?
45:57
Speaker 12: I don't think it is. I think it's just the
45:59
Speaker 12: only thing they can rely on. And the reason I
46:02
Speaker 12: say that is because when Jim Jarmers off the two
46:05
Speaker 12: seventy five promise then started saying, okay, well we've got
46:08
Speaker 12: these rebates and your energy bills.
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Speaker 6: That'll show up.
46:11
Speaker 12: I remember when I got my first energy bill back
46:13
Speaker 12: after we were supposed to get the relief, I didn't
46:15
Speaker 12: really see a noticeable dip. And then speaking of noticeable dips.
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Speaker 12: The polling kept going down after those rebates. I think
46:24
Speaker 12: when people get that first interest rate cut, they're going
46:27
Speaker 12: to either go not enough for me, or they're going
46:30
Speaker 12: to wait for their bill to come through and just
46:31
Speaker 12: see what that cut was. Isn't going to affect their
46:35
Speaker 12: lives in any major trend. I mean, as Paul Murray's
46:39
Speaker 12: Sky News host and great guy always says, it's just
46:42
Speaker 12: slightly less strangulation on those who have a mortgage. I
46:47
Speaker 12: think hopefully, Well, if I'm labor, I'm hoping that by
46:51
Speaker 12: the time of the election campaign people be so high
46:53
Speaker 12: on the idea of an interest rate cut and further
46:56
Speaker 12: interest rates cuts to come, that we can get into
46:59
Speaker 12: a poll before the next bill is due.
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Speaker 2: All right, well look we'll wait, wait and see what
47:05
Speaker 2: happens here. Now I hate to inform the both of you,
47:08
Speaker 2: but guess what the woke have come for? An ossie
47:11
Speaker 2: icon our Ossie icon, our Ossie movie. Crocodile Dundee.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: A heavily edited version of this iconic movie has aired
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Speaker 2: in the UK, with some of the best known scenes removed,
47:24
Speaker 2: including this one.
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Speaker 3: It's got a knife.
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Speaker 6: N that's a knife.
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Speaker 2: Look I don't know what's so offensive about that, James Ashby.
47:40
Speaker 2: But now you know Crocodile Dundee is being censored.
47:45
Speaker 11: You know, my grandmother has been telling me for years,
47:48
Speaker 11: don't get Netflix, don't get all these subscription channels going
47:51
Speaker 11: by the DVDs because they can't take them down. And
47:54
Speaker 11: I think I'm realizing she was onto something. Isn't that
47:58
Speaker 11: just a shame that some of these Ossie icons what's next?
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Speaker 3: The castle?
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Speaker 1: What are they going to go after next?
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Speaker 10: You know?
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Speaker 11: And there's so many of those Ossie iconic movies and
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Speaker 11: some of the old American ones as well, that are
48:09
Speaker 11: worth keeping.
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Speaker 1: Well, just put up with.
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Speaker 2: It, absolutely, get on with it, I say, James Bolt,
48:16
Speaker 2: what do you think about the Aussie icon.
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Speaker 12: I think this is just a blip in an overall
48:22
Speaker 12: trend'swards more freedom. I think things are opening up. I
48:25
Speaker 12: wouldn't panic about this one. I wouldn't overcorrect. I think
48:30
Speaker 12: what you would see is far more outrage over people
48:33
Speaker 12: if you play the censored version than the unsensed version
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Speaker 12: one right now.
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Speaker 3: Look, I just think it's out of control. I mean,
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Speaker 3: you know, as he said, what's next?
48:42
Speaker 2: For goodness sake, James, James Ashby Happy New Year, good
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Speaker 2: to have you both on. Thank you very much for
48:47
Speaker 2: joining me on the show this evening, and that is
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Speaker 2: all we have time for tonight. I'll be back again
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night, but up next is the Late Debate.
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Speaker 3: Good Night,