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How Children’s Nebraska is Advancing Pediatric Mental Health Through Caring Contacts · Becker’s Healthcare -- Pediatric Leadership Podcast

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Welcome everyone to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
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I'm Mariah Muhammad, writer and moderator with Becker's
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Healthcare. I'm thrilled to have with me today
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Renee Rafferty. Senior vice president of behavioral health
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and wellness is Sabrina Shally, director of behavioral
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health integration and program coordinator at Children's Nebraska.
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Renee and Sabrina, welcome to the podcast. We're
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very excited to have you join us today.
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To get a start, would you mind please
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introducing yourself and telling us a bit about
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your background? Yes. Thanks so much, Mariah.
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I'm Renee Rafferty,
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senior vice president of behavioral health and wellness.
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I am a therapist by trade and have
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been in a leadership role for over twenty
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years. I have will worked in the full
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continuum of care, outpatient,
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inpatient residential crisis services,
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as well as integrated behavioral health. And and
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just I'm very excited to talk with you
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today.
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And, yes, it's lovely to meet you, Mariah,
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and get a chance to share about our
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program. My name is Sabrina Shalley. I'm a
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licensed clinical social worker by discipline,
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and this is actually my thirtieth year in
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the field. I began as a,
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clinical counselor and therapist for adolescents,
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and working with kids and their families has
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remained
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my passion throughout my career,
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and,
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have also really been excited to lead Children
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Nebraska's efforts for suicide prevention,
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in hopes that we can accomplish zero suicides.
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So excited to talk more about our efforts
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in that space today.
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Yes. Yes. Thank you both for giving us
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that background and, obviously, amazing work that you
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are doing, in that field. Sabrina, going to
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you for,
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my first question. How did the idea for
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implementing caring context in a pediatric setting originate?
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And what made Children's Nebraska decide to adopt
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this historically adult focused intervention
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and lead its utilization
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for children and teens?
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Well, thank you so much for giving us
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a chance to tell this part of our
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story.
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I am celebrating eight years here at Children's
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Nebraska. And prior to the role I'm in
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now, I had the great opportunity to,
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support and lead the medical social workers, which
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included our emergency department
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social workers who in our continuum of care
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provided the mental health assessment for kids who
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were coming in for suicide ideation or suicidal
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behaviors.
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And when I joined Children's in 2017,
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it was right as we really began to
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see a ramp up in the number of
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kids needing to come in for those services.
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And as I was supporting those social workers,
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I was hearing
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about how difficult it was for them, you
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know, in a eight or twelve hour shift
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to be working with child after child after
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child.
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And so we were doing some things to
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try and support them.
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The medical team that surrounded them was amazing,
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but that was on my brain. At the
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same time,
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as a leader continuing to hear about we
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were we were nearly doubling our rates of
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kids needing new services.
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And I'll be honest, it was,
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fall season because I was watching a Kansas
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City Chiefs football game.
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We are in our glory years. I readily
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admit that. But during commercials is when I
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like to catch up on magazines.
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And there was a Time magazine article in
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the 2019
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all about these handwritten note cards that were
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used in adult substance use and misuse recovery.
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And I thought, oh, I don't really want
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to read this article right now. It's Sunday.
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I'm watching football. And I thought, no. I
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probably really need to read this.
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And I read it and I just thought
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that magic of that personal touch of when
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you get to meet someone in their most
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vulnerable moments
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and,
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they tell you their story and then you
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help them make recommendations of what the next
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step on their journey is,
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but then you don't have contact with them
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again potentially forever,
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how that must feel to the patient, let
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alone how that was feeling to the social
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workers. So I brought it to our emergency
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department social work team, and I said, what
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would you think if we tried something like
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this?
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And they all immediately got on board,
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and we're really excited about the opportunity. So
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we really dove in. We learned
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about zero suicide.
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We traced the history of these handwritten caring
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contacts note cards.
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We did some benchmarking with the Children's Hospital
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Association and found out this wasn't being utilized
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in any sort of environment that we could
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uncover. We had an amazing practicum student that
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helped us roll it out. And I want
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to bring back to attention the timeline that
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we started this, which was fall of twenty
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nineteen. We had no idea what was coming
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in March.
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We had set a go live date of
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05/01/2020,
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which took us about six months to develop
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the program,
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to create what we thought would be an
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effective clinical intervention.
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And I'm really proud to say that despite
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the COVID pandemic happening, we did go live
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on May 1.
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And since that time, we just celebrated,
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five years. We have enrolled nearly 1,200
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patients into the program.
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And the best news of all is we
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have zero deaths by suicide in our patient
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population in this space. So,
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that's how it came about, a random article
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being read,
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that was used in the adult space.
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Wow. That's absolutely amazing. Thank you so much
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for sharing that. And you're now five years
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into the program,
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and, obviously, it's going really well. But what
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outcomes or trends have surprised you the most,
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especially in terms of patient response and impact?
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Oh my goodness.
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You know, our biggest hope as we as
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we went into this is that,
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we really wanted to reduce
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our kids that were returning to us, for
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repeat suicide ideation or suicidal behavior.
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We also,
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thought that it might give us a chance
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to decrease the number of kids who died
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by suicide.
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We thought it would help normalize mental health
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and needing to come in for support with
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our pediatric health care team, but also we
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thought there was potential for it to impact
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our community in a positive way. And
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just showing a token
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of support
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for these individuals. I wanna be really clear
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that we never intended to replace the needed
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steps
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for kids after they come in for
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suicidal ideation or behaviors.
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We always needed to encourage them on to
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go into inpatient care or to connect with
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an outpatient
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or intensive outpatient team.
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These were really, like, we met you, we
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care about you, and we're gonna continue to
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cheer you on in your journey. So the
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cards are written really carefully,
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so that they speak to that component.
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But really, magic started to happen, and it
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started happening right away when the kids started
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writing back to us. And I have some
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cards I could read you some quotes from.
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We had no idea that the kids, you
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know, unprovoked, would choose to write. We've had
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kids that have called, like, our our Children's
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Nebraska agency line and say, hey. We're trying
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to track down a social worker,
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you know, and we don't we only remember
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her frictioning with this. And they literally, like,
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ping ponged through our system and are leaving
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messages for those social workers.
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We had no idea that we would hear
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from their families,
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that families were writing us and sending us
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pictures of their
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child. We got one picture where it was
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the child on their on their bed with
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their comfort
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cat,
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and all of the handwritten note cards. We
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send six in that year.
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We're all hanging
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by the side of her bed, and the
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mom was saying, this is the most amazing
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thing. They're concrete. They're tangible. She reads them
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over and over,
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and I just wanted you to see this
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picture of my happier and healthier child than
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when you first met her.
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We also then
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really didn't know that we would begin to
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see our social workers that were doing this
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work no longer felt like it was a
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churn and burn or a one and done
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environment. They actually felt
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that empowerment
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to continue to support the patients,
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in this really profound way. So the retention
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rate improved for us with our emergency department
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social workers.
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I think since we started, we've lost only
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one or two to moving out of state
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or, different positions in our organization, and so
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it's really stabilized that team.
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And then as we began to share
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successes after we've run the program for one
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year,
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it we heard from our division chief,
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of our emergency department. He said, hey. None
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of my peers are hearing any you know,
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they're not doing anything like this. We need
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to start telling people about the results.
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And so we've done a bit of that.
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We created a replication kit, and we've been
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able,
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to share that,
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with over 70 different,
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health care systems so far.
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So that's been been really exciting.
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Yeah. Yeah. As of that definitely sounds exciting.
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And you answered,
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my next question a little bit, but, obviously,
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the program has expanded significantly with over a
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thousand patients, enrolled,
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and replication kids share with hospitals and schools
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nationwide. Can you explain what the adoption process
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looks like? And you say you share you
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have,
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over 70 institutions that have adopted the model?
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We've shared with over 70 institutions, Mariah,
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and we're really pleased to do that. We're
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happy. We've presented on this program to conferences,
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to larger groups, but we also get thrilled
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to meet with,
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health care institutions
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one on one and really talk through
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how we've lifted the program here. I mean,
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you've got things like
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HIPAA and compliance. Right? We need to get
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guardian permission to be sending these note cards.
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We,
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need to ensure,
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that the patient expects that these cards are
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coming.
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And so we have a ninety per ninety
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eight percent of our patients that we offer
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this program to,
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choose to enroll. So that's really amazing.
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But I will say I don't know how
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many who have chosen to adopt the handwritten
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part.
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We're really grateful to Children's Nebraska that we
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are able to allocate our social workers time
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to writing these cards.
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I know there are some other health care
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institutions that are doing some really neat things
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with regard to texting
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and those components,
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but we haven't been able to argue with
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the results of zero suicide.
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We also have a substantial decrease in kids
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that are in the program that return to
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the emergency department,
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with regard to any sort of suicidal thoughts
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or or gestures.
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And,
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actually, we begin to see more and more
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of our kids,
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that we are seeing if they do come
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back, are able to discharge home with a
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safety plan and lethal means counseling as opposed
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to going into a higher level of care.
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So all of those things have told us
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we've really that we aren't at this time
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going to change our process, and we're gonna
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stick with the hand written cards.
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Got it. Got it. Thank you so much
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for explaining that. And read it Renee, how
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do you maintain the personal and meaningful nature
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of the handwritten notes, especially as the program
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scales?
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Can you share any memorable stories or feedback
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that really
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importance of using innovation and text is great,
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and those things are wonderful tools. And I
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think what we've realized through this program,
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when you send that card and that child
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was able to connect with the person that
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they sat with during their most difficult moment,
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they're able to recognize that
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this connection
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is a sign of hope and healing, and
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they get these multiple reminders of that courage
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it took to reach out, the ability to
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trust their own inner wisdom, and work with
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the the the person that's shared their story.
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So I think those cards,
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themselves are really a testament to the importance
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of connection and that however we heal is
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usually through connection with our caring team. And
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I think that the
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I'll have Sabrina read a card to you
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of of what is said because I think
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that just is is a one card from
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a child touches hundreds of caregivers because we
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do share the exciting words and not sharing
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the identity of the child, but just the
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healing that happens. And that, like Sabrina says,
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is so healing for the our team to
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remember that this treatment actually works. People do
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heal from mental health conditions, and they do
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really respond to powerful visits,
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and it can be trajectory changing. So, Wendy,
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you wanna go ahead and read one for
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us? Yes. Yes. I'm happy to.
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So, Mariah, here's a card we got back
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from one of our patients, and she writes,
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thank you so much for sending that letter.
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I can't even begin to tell you how
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much it meant to me. I got the
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letter the day of my birthday and started
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sobbing in the car. I'm glad I know
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I have someone rooting for me. It was
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so kind of you to reach out.
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I'll take a moment to read another one
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that I think is really impactful.
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This is someone,
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who wrote back after all six cards had
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been sent for that first year. And she
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says, I have always meant to write back
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to you.
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The cards mean so much to me. Each
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one is hanging up in my room. I
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wanted to let you know how much of
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an impact the cards have and to know
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someone I met once cares so deeply for
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me. I'm doing the best I have been
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since a year ago. I never imagined this
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much happiness was waiting for me. There have
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been hard times, but I have been able
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to overcome them and become better in the
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end. I can never thank you enough for
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all you have done in my healing journey.
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And, again, that's just a reminder that that
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social marker met this patient once and six
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handwritten note cards. I mean, again, just a
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bit of magic.
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Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you so much for sharing
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those. And looking ahead, how do you envision
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caring contacts evolving with Children's Nebraska? Are there
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any plans at all to expand beyond behavioral
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health into,
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other areas of care where connection might also
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improve outcomes?
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Yes. And I'll I'll answer the being that
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somebody you weigh in. But I think, ultimately,
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it's very important to say that, you know,
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interventions for kids experiencing mental health conditions happen
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across our continuum.
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We are training within Jones Nebraska. We have
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a program called COPE, which is children's outreach
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and provider education. And we train pediatricians to
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treat mild to moderate conditions within,
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primary care. And I think there's opportunities to
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expand in those types of settings to bring
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to outreach to other hospitals and to continue
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to talk about the importance of that personalized,
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deep trauma informed connection that allows for that
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sense of hope, which we know is really
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the key to healing. So I think we
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plan to you know, Sabrina's
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excellent at being able to support and to
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continue to provide that implementation. And we are
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gonna be using it as we expand our
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services.
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We have used it in our behavioral health
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urgent care,
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out in Kearney, Nebraska and have found that
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the kids absolutely love it out there as
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well. And so it's it's just a very
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it's a tool that we'll continue to support
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and offer to others as well as inside
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of our, inside of our programs, that are
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not just behavioral health programs or behavioral visits.
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They're,
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treating behavioral health in other parts of the
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continuum.
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Yeah. Agree with that, Renee.
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We've really been on a robust
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journey with zero suicide, and caring contacts falls
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under the transition arm of that.
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But what it's also taught us is that
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ability to have a conversation with the family
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while they're with us in crisis
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and saying, hey, we're gonna continue to support
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you, and this is what it'll look like.
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And we've added some other tools to that.
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We've really created a robust lethal means counseling
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program. We're not only we providing the concrete
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objects like lock boxes and gun locks and
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those sorts of things, but we also teach
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them how to do a home sweep. We
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send them home with those materials so they
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know how to make their home safer for
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their child to return.
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We have adapted
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the safety plan and are using it in
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really unique ways across our entire continuum.
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We do universal screening for depression and suicide
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across our Children's Nebraska,
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programs on units and clinics, which helps us
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identify kids, who are at risk.
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And just over last year, we identified
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well over 100 kids who actively had a
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suicidal plan that we're here for some other
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reason
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besides mental health care. And I think those
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are the things that keep us motivated
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moving forward just like these really amazing responses
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we get from our patients in the caring
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contact program.
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Wonderful. Thank you so much for explaining that.
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And, Sabrina, Renee, before I let you go,
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the last thing I wanted to ask is
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beyond caring context,
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how is Children's Nebraska leading excellence in pediatric
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behavioral health?
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What's on the horizon for bringing hope to
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children and families right now?
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That's a great question. I love answering it.
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It's such an exciting time to be part
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of Children's Nebraska. In January,
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we will be opening a behavioral health and
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wellness center that's part of our hospital system
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that provides a full continuum of care of
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behavioral health services.
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And this building,
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as being part of our health care system
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is unique in that it is also no
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wrong door. So when, kids have a behavioral
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health crisis, they can walk in our front
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door and they can receive behavioral health urgent
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care so they can meet with a therapist
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and work on, you know, a crisis that
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is occurring. But they can go back home
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and see be with their family if they're
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stable and can return back home. But we
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also have crisis stabilization
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that is, twenty three hours and fifty nine
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minutes. Kids can come in and stay for
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a while to provide more stabilization,
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be able to see a psychiatric nurse practitioner,
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psychiatrist,
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get therapy as peer support, and be able
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to receive those services that also can hopefully
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stabilize,
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them back to go home. But if need
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be, they can also be,
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admitted to an inpatient
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psychiatric
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unit that will help to offer that higher
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level of care for for acute services.
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We also will have a day treatment program
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that provides mental health care,
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as partial hospitalization.
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And then we have our eating disorder program
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that will also be expanding. It's a partial
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hospitalization we have,
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but we'll be expanding. So we have 10
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patients that can be in that program. So
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just a really large continuum of care, behavioral
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health service, as well as we'll have primary
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care located in our wellness center too. And
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the goal is to really help, destigmatize
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care, recognizing that please reach out early.
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Please,
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come in the door. We'll help you navigate
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the system and really create that seamless transition
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depending on what the child needs that families
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don't have to figure out where to go.
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We have excellent services right now, but it's
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just gonna be so exciting to offer the
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this, full continuum in January.
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Wonderful. Wonderful. Thank you both so much for
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those final thoughts. It's definitely been a very
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informative discussion. So, again, I wanna thank you
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so much for coming on Becker's Healthcare and
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explaining that. And I look forward to connecting
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again with you both soon.
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Thank you so much. So much, Brian.