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- 0:06Welcome to Inside the Criminal Mind podcast, where we analyze some of the most
- 0:12notorious criminal cases with psychology and criminology combined. Here's your host, doctor Carlos.
- 0:31Welcome back, folks. Well, today we're gonna be talking about the
- 0:34tower maniac known as Rene's Phone, Fermino Gomez. He's a resilient serial killer
- 0:41and he's got some similar traits that we've seen with other serial killers. He
- 0:45targeted prostitutes. Now, a couple things here before we get started. You
- 0:51know, a lot of times I'll target individuals that are harder to find,
- 0:56that are unfortunately not noticed as missing a lot of time. So sometimes these
- 1:00prostitutes, especially in rural areas or underdeveloped countries, and this is what happened.
- 1:07This happened. This happened two thousand and five to twenty fifteen. A
- 1:10lot of times they're going to be their parents are going to be they're not
- 1:15going to know who know who the parents are. Sometimes sometimes their parents are
- 1:19going to be addicted to drugs unfortunately whatever it may be, but they're not
- 1:23going to be as aware, not not all of them, of course,
- 1:26I don't want to overgeneralize, but the target these individuals that they believe most
- 1:30of the time won't be noticed. Police forces won't ever get a call about
- 1:34them missing or anything of that nature. And especially we're talking about fifteen ten
- 1:41to fifteen years ago in Brazil. One of his signatures is he left their
- 1:48bodies underneath a high voltage electrical tower. So we'll take a look at that
- 1:53and why that is. He operated in the city of Maringa, Parana between
- 1:57the years two thousand and five, possibly around two thousand and one. According
- 2:01to Odira the audio, which is O diary, he's considered by the States
- 2:06police to be among the deadliest serial killers. So I want to expand a
- 2:12little bit of widely targeted prostitutes. We don't have a lot of background information
- 2:15about him, but his mother was a prostitute. But first of all,
- 2:19I was looking at Zero Coast in general, they targeted prostitutes for a couple
- 2:23of decades, I mean centuries. Actually, Jack the ripper, who supposed
- 2:28he has never been caught, terrorized London and he that's what he targeted.
- 2:32It was prostitutes. The Long Island serial killer another uncought murderer or serial killer
- 2:38who last disappeared. Last confirmed victim I think it was in September twenty ten.
- 2:42And with the way he did was he advertised sex work on Craigslist.
- 2:46Other killers apprehended who did the same thing was Butcher Baker. Robert Hanson said
- 2:51he thought prostitutes were evil. Now this is another one. If they had
- 2:54this delusional fantasy. Obviously a lot of them are sadistic and violent. They're
- 2:59trying to pure the world, maybe because their own mother was a prostitute,
- 3:04or something to do with their father, whatever it may be. And there's
- 3:07sexual abuse here going on, physical abuse, and they're trying to purge this
- 3:12out of their conscious mind right and their unconscious mind. So what they'll do
- 3:16is they'll target these individuals as proxies in the sensor sarrogates, trying to eliminate
- 3:22them. The soul called Torso kill Er. You might have heard her him,
- 3:24Richard Contingham. He professes to have acted on a sociopathic, sadistic sexual
- 3:29impulse. Again, sometimes a lot of these serial killers will have their mothers
- 3:32will have sex in front of them with other men, and this develops a
- 3:37very distorted sexual fantasy. But the sex work or serial murder victim isn't just
- 3:44a stereotype. It's a dominant demographic reality. According to his studies, twenty
- 3:47two percent of confirmed US serial murder victims between nineteen seventy and two thousand and
- 3:53nine, so almost forty years we're known prostitute, so one fifth, and
- 3:57those numbers are climbing. In the last decade we're forty three percent. The
- 4:00scent of the victims were sex workers. You got to remember prostitutes make up
- 4:03less than a half percent of the nation. It's a dangerous profession to get
- 4:09into, as some would argue, being a prostitute increases your chances of being
- 4:13murdered by two hundred times. Why did they target them, because again,
- 4:17they believe the police won't look as hard for a missing sex workers as they
- 4:20will for a more respectable victim. Now this is true. Now respectable I
- 4:25put in quotes, and this is true, especially twenty thirty years ago.
- 4:29It's becoming a lot less like that. But still it was like that for
- 4:32many years ago. That's why you have a lot more serial killers. My
- 4:35belief is in the seventies, eighties and tooth in the nineties. One of
- 4:41reason is it was a lot easier to get away with it. There was
- 4:43a lot less communication between law enforcement, local and federal, a lot less
- 4:46technology, no DNA. There was a lot of stuff going on that made
- 4:49it much easier for them. I know. Robert Kolker I think I wrote
- 4:56in a book about multiple police departments failed to investigate the disappearances of several sex
- 5:00workers who remains were later discovered buried one another on Oak Beach in Long Island.
- 5:06The Long Island serial killer became national news, bringing immense pressure on the
- 5:10Suffolk County Police Department investigating the case. That's usually what happened, something like
- 5:15that will trigger it. So this makes it very complicated when you're looking for
- 5:26serial killers who target prostitutes. It's because they're not looked. They're not missed
- 5:31a lot of times by family members for whatever reason, so it's hard to
- 5:35know that they're missing. They're much more vulnerable population, especially those who don't
- 5:43work from a brothel but instead of go to secluded locations with what they call
- 5:46their john's or their customers, whatever you want to phrase it as. And
- 5:49because of the nature of their work, there's always an obvious sexual component and
- 5:54often a key motivator for serial murderers. About sixty percent of all male serial
- 5:59killers sexually involved with their victims in some way, whether it's living or dead.
- 6:02Unfortunately, and prostitutes are a very very vulnerable target. See, if
- 6:10you target people who aren't sex workers, you have to have a scheme.
- 6:13This is what they would call more of an organized type of a killer.
- 6:15You're gonna have to try to Usually the psychopaths will do this. They'll feign
- 6:18injury to garner sympathy like Ted Bundle used to do, or spend a week
- 6:23stalking their victim to detect vulnerabilities in their habits, to know when they're coming,
- 6:26when they're going, who's around, what kind of safe what kind of
- 6:30protection do they have around them, what kind of access do they have to
- 6:34this individual. But again, when it comes to targeting prostitutes, it could
- 6:40be as simple as negotiating a fee from across the car window and nobody knows.
- 6:46So that's just kind of an idea of what I'm talking about here.
- 6:53We go back to this serial killer from Brazil and see what he does.
- 6:58Now, Rody's is his name. Rony was married, a father of two
- 7:01children, worked as a security guard. Now this is his dad, so
- 7:09his mother, actually, no, this is him. He was a father
- 7:11of two children, worked as a security guard and freelance salesman. His mother,
- 7:14who was a prostituto, was murdered in the town of Campo Mudaua when
- 7:15he was seven years old, after which he began living near electric towers.
- 7:20There's the connection, right, So his mother, who was a prostituto,
- 7:25was murdered in the town of Compo when he was seven, after which he
- 7:27began living near electric towers. He had already had previous convictions for fraud and
- 7:31bank robbery. He was forty years old at the time of his arrest,
- 7:34so he had been killing at least since he was twenty five. So could
- 7:38have been schizophrenia, could have been some kind of psychotic disorder. Possibly doesn't
- 7:43have to be, but it could be there. We'll look at some of
- 7:46the cases here. Police were already working on the possibility of a serial killer
- 7:50in the area, having mapped all debts and similar circumstances over a number of
- 7:54years. But it wasn't. It wasn't. It was only after finding the
- 7:58body of Mara Santos on July twenty seven, twenty fifteen, did they arrive
- 8:01at Rony's after finding traces and video images that put him at the crime scenes,
- 8:05so because se how technology really kicked up the discovery of this crime or
- 8:11of this criminal. In a statement, the killer, in addition to detailing
- 8:13some deaths, claim he had killed five other women, but police believe the
- 8:16number of victims is actually even higher. After the arrest, other women testify
- 8:20and confirmed that Roni's had attempted to kill other prostitutes. Ronis just found guilty
- 8:24for six murders and concealment of the corpses. Investigators Fan Marrow Josian's DeSanto's body
- 8:33or closed three modern three kilometers away from the where the body was. Now
- 8:37we know what this a lot of times can indicate, right, So they
- 8:39have separate they have the point of contact of the victim, where they murdered
- 8:43the victim, and where they disposed the body. Taking that close away.
- 8:48Obviously there was some kind of anger because he left them naked. So remember
- 8:54this is kind of a weird way of looking at it, but there was
- 8:54no respect there for that victim at all, So he really had an anger
- 8:58towards person. According to the examination, the suspect had a blue vehicle whose
- 9:07bumper was damaged. The pieces that were in the authority's possession fit perfectly in
- 9:13the damaged section, and they found pieces next to the body. In addition
- 9:16to traffic cammer had caught the car on the day in place where the woman
- 9:20was killed. Again you can see technology how it to save the day.
- 9:22It was with these indications that the police requested the arrest. When arrested,
- 9:26Ronny said that after agreeing to go with Mara, he followed her into a
- 9:30dark street. There they took their clothes off inside the car, but the
- 9:33two had a disagreement over the use of a condom, after which Mara had
- 9:35tried to take away the keys of the vehicle. Fearing arrests. Ronny's checked
- 9:39for any nearby traffick in case she began running naked, before eventually strangling her
- 9:43to death. So it doesn't sound like he necessarily had a plan to kill
- 9:46her. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. They don't kill everybody.
- 9:50After ensuring she was dead, Roney's claimed to have followed a corn farmer to
- 9:54a nearby high voltage tower where he intended to leave the body, which was
- 9:56the zambo for a while, but as they saw a movement of vehicle was
- 10:00near the scene, he changed his mind. So this is what disrupted his
- 10:01m. Right, his signatures was disrupted here. That's why he was going
- 10:05to drop her off. For this reason, he only left part of Marrow's
- 10:09clothes there before driving for about a mile to another farm. Again, this
- 10:11is satisfying some part of his fantasy. What it is, we don't really
- 10:16know yet. At least maybe we're not going to find out where he arranged
- 10:18the body and prayed asking for forgiveness for his act and the victim, so
- 10:24leaving the victim in a cornfield where he arranged the body. Now this change
- 10:28is my original comment about not having respect for her, because even though he
- 10:33left her naked, it seems the reason he left her naked is because he
- 10:35couldn't take the body there. So this is where it changes on us,
- 10:39right, folks. And look this case, I'm actually just reading as I
- 10:41go along with you and doing an analysis here. I didn't get as much
- 10:46time to do background, so I'm learning with you as we go through the
- 10:48case. And it's very fascinating because he changed his m and when he changed
- 10:54his m there was a certain respect that he had for the victim because he
- 10:58actually prayed over and ask for forgiveness. So more than likely This is one
- 11:03of those Angels of Mercy type things. Regarding the choice of victims, Ronie's
- 11:07claimed that they were selected at random. He also clarified details, such as
- 11:09to avoid being scratched, which could leave traces on the nails, he laid
- 11:13on the car seat in such a way as to hinder the victim's reaction.
- 11:16He stalked his targets. He generally killed prostitutes who refused to do what he
- 11:20wanted, so there was obviously another clear example of control which we always see
- 11:24a lot of times with these kype of cases. He stalked them, so
- 11:28he was very organized. He was able to think more clearly enough to be
- 11:31able to do that. He followed the cases on TV, so he definitely
- 11:35was paying attention to a lot. All of the women's bodies could be found
- 11:37in the area of the tower located in Estrada de rose Aia. This obviously
- 11:41fulfilled his fantasies too. He got probably satisfaction from seeing them trying to find
- 11:48him, and the place was too overcrowded, he would dispose of the bodies
- 11:50elsewhere. He killed, normally by strangling or asphyxiating the women, leaving their
- 11:56bodies naked and belly up, always in the middle of the plantation and under
- 12:00electric towers. Now, I don't know if he prayed for over all of
- 12:03them or not. In this case, he did pray for her, at
- 12:07least he says he did. He did kill a nineteen year old whose body
- 12:11was discovered in December seventh. Ronis did not admit to this murder, but
- 12:15the victims film was found to be a possession of one of the killer's friends.
- 12:20What was the motive? According to all this, he had a hatred
- 12:22of protestutes because his mother was one and had also been murdered without the perpetrator
- 12:28being arrested, which caused him severe trauma. And I don't think it was
- 12:31the lack of the arrest enclosure. I think it was the fact there's a
- 12:35lot of other things going on. After her death, he began living near
- 12:37electrical towers, so it almost could see he might be doing some kind of
- 12:41ritual right and killing these individuals that were Sarah adversions of his mother. There
- 12:46were prostitutes, and then he would if he continued to do that mo if
- 12:50it was accurate, where he would put him in an electric tower where he
- 12:54was almost like an homage reliving this, and he might have even wanted to
- 13:01be caught. I'm really speculating here, but he might have wanted to be
- 13:05caught, like he was hoping that the person who killed his mother was caught.
- 13:09This could be a possible reason, and maybe there was a conflict.
- 13:13There's different selves of us anyway, as human beings. We have different personalities
- 13:16that fight all the time, right, And if you have trauma, you're
- 13:20fragmented into various selves, so you can have a self of anger deriving from
- 13:24certain things that can get triggered. This is probably what happened when the prostitutes
- 13:28refused to have sex with him. That part of the self triggered, and
- 13:33all of a sudden, that anger came out, the violence and aggression came
- 13:35out. So we can see psychologically here this whole thing play out pretty easily
- 13:43in a sense that we've seen this pattern before. He hated the fact that
- 13:48his mother was a prostitute. Who knows what else was going on in the
- 13:54house, whether it was a stable house or not, whether there was nurturing
- 13:56in the home. These are usually protective facts, so I'm guessing there wasn't.
- 14:01And the reason I say there wasn't is because a lot of times when
- 14:03you have an individual like this who suffers this level of trauma, emotional abuse,
- 14:09neglect, the protective buffers can create the protective factors can create a buffer
- 14:15to help them live much more normally in life, which this individual didn't.
- 14:20And so there's other Usually there's a combination, actually always a combination of factors.
- 14:24It's not just that the mom was a prostitute. That's not going to
- 14:28do it. It's going to be other things too. I'm assuming possibly immertional
- 14:31abuse neglect, that could have been prenatal alcohol, drugs use as well,
- 14:37that could affect the neurodevelopment of Ronie's brain. None of this is to justify
- 14:43it, but all to explain it and hopefully create prevention programs in the future.
- 14:46Intervention programs. A lot of studies show that if you drink alcohol or
- 14:50do drugs while you're pregnant, this could affect a neurodevelopment, especially in that
- 14:54first trimester, very powerful moment in time where you're developing a a lot of
- 15:00those neurons and connections, especially that prefundal cortex area where control controls your impulses,
- 15:05helps you anticipate consequences, makes moral judgments. Also the highway connection between
- 15:09the prefunded the cortex and the megala where the Amiguala hijacks the pre fund of
- 15:13cortex under stress and threat. So you got a lot of different factors playing
- 15:18here. I'm guessing he probably had all the above. We don't know necessarily
- 15:22because we don't know much about it. We don't know if he had a
- 15:22father, if you ever knew the father. We don't know if he was
- 15:26abused or not right now. Definitely, a lot of the murders were personal,
- 15:31and the way he strangled them, I don't know if you watch them
- 15:35die or not. That's another aspect of it. It's really important to understand
- 15:39it, to see if he actually watches the victim die, that's going to
- 15:41be something he else that derives pleasure with and sadism. We don't have a
- 15:46lot, but hopefully I gave you enough to kind of get you an understanding.
- 15:50And again I'll go back again. I thought originally he was ashamed of
- 15:54these people, which he still might be. But if he really truly prayed
- 15:58over that last victim, if he's actually being honest, we don't know sometimes
- 16:02because sometimes they're a psychopath, which he could be considering his behavior prior to
- 16:07this. If he is a psychopath, he might just be looking for a
- 16:11more lenient sentence. So I don't know necessarily how it works in Brazil.
- 16:17What we do know in Brazil he was sentenced and I think I believe it
- 16:21was twenty one years. He was convicted for six murders. It will face
- 16:26more trials during summer of twenty twenty for different murders. He was sentenced for
- 16:30twenty one years and four months for one case. I don't know how much
- 16:33longer he's going to be in there, so he's in at least to his
- 16:37sixties. And I don't know how Brazil works in the sense of letting them
- 16:40out earlier good behavior or whatnot, or I have no idea, but for
- 16:45right now, that's our case for today. Thanks for listening everybody. Hey,
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