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Bryce Harper wants help, Red Sox lose Mead, Ohtani pitching update, Giants IL mess, Rays want Neto? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: And not get hold of.
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  Speaker 2: Cham Who is the name during the trade deadline? This
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  Speaker 2: should be an easy answer, exactly, Juan Soto, where will
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  Speaker 2: one go? No, who is the name of the trade deadline?
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  Speaker 3: Tech School?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. I think we've hit the point where we
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  Speaker 2: can at least take official predictions from our fans. So
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  Speaker 2: we're putting this out there on socials. Feel free to interact.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's up on Instagram. Maybe Twitter will follow
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  Speaker 2: what team will tech School be on after the deadline?
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  Speaker 2: Questions of the day are coming to become a thing
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  Speaker 2: on FT. We want to connect more with the fans,
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  Speaker 2: the people and bring those questions on to the show
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  Speaker 2: or there's answers onto the show, So let us know
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts. I think it's okay to put this out
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  Speaker 2: there because AJA teams are officially calling about him. Of
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  Speaker 2: course they've lightly called about him, But to me, when
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  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal puts the report out that he did yesterday
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  Speaker 2: about the heavy call action that's going on and teams
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  Speaker 2: not feeling like they need to wait anymore, that's when
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  Speaker 2: it starts to get serious.
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  Speaker 1: How many more days until the trick deadline?
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  Speaker 2: Almost Monday?
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  Speaker 1: I mean five more days?
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  Speaker 4: Five more days and we can wait another year until
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  Speaker 4: we have to talk about this again.
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  Speaker 2: Like I it's the coolest thing. It's not.
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  Speaker 4: I did a radio interview in Atlanta today and they
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  Speaker 4: were like, I'm just tired of having to talk about
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  Speaker 4: this because the Braves are in the middle of all this,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, right, because I just I'm I'm the
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  Speaker 4: this is why I'm not good at poker. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to jump ahead to the end. I don't need
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  Speaker 4: the speculation. I just want to know who wins or loses.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need it. I don't need this.
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  Speaker 4: And I know Baseball America loves this because, like I said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know the names of half of the guys
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  Speaker 4: that are going to get traded anyway, So it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: excite me for the thirty second prospect of the Braves
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  Speaker 4: to get traded to the Tigers or terror School. Like
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  Speaker 4: I know it's not going to be that person. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I just I just want to skip ahead
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  Speaker 4: to the end.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, what what what? First of all,
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  Speaker 2: you're acting like your favorite movie is Click, that Adam
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  Speaker 2: Sandley movie where you just fast forwards through everything and
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  Speaker 2: then he gets to the end and spoiler movie. Good
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  Speaker 2: perspective wishes he didn't fast forward. But wait, Also, Adrian,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care if you don't know all the prospects.
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  Speaker 2: You know the major league players, like, don't worry about
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  Speaker 2: who the Braves are giving up. We have people on
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  Speaker 2: our FT network that can come on. But if Google
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  Speaker 2: does go to the Braves and they win a World Series,
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  Speaker 2: that makes this time of year worth everything. And that's
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  Speaker 2: why it's so major. This is I respectfully could not
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  Speaker 2: disagree with you more. This is my favorite week of
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  Speaker 2: the year. This is literal Christmas in July.
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  Speaker 4: You still have our own opinion, Scout, and that's your opinion,
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  Speaker 4: and I have my opinion. I mean, I like it
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  Speaker 4: when trades happen, and I liked it people get to
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  Speaker 4: switch teams and all that. I just hate to lead
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  Speaker 4: up to it, right, I hate to lead up to where, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: is terk'schooble going to get you? It was like with
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  Speaker 4: Wan Sodo, Oh where's Wan going to go? Just tell
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  Speaker 4: me when one signs. That's all I want to know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't need to go through the rumors because the rumors,
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  Speaker 4: most of them aren't true anyways, I just want to
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  Speaker 4: know where he ends up signing. I want to know
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  Speaker 4: where Trek' school will gets traded to when trek'scooble, if
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  Speaker 4: he gets traded, where he gets treated, tell me where
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  Speaker 4: he's going, and then we can analyze where he's going
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  Speaker 4: to be at after that.
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  Speaker 1: But all the rest of it is all speculation.
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  Speaker 3: It is speculation. But I also enjoy the like I
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  Speaker 3: enjoy the aspect of seeing the gifts under the tree
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  Speaker 3: and going I wonder if that right there is what
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  Speaker 3: I think it is. I enjoy seeing like, Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: know the Phillies need X, Y and Z, and I
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  Speaker 3: know Dombrowski's doing these types of things, but there's always
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  Speaker 3: something else that we don't necessarily see. We always see
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  Speaker 3: the teams that are not going for teams that are
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  Speaker 3: definitely going for it, and terror schoogle, Like, I think
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  Speaker 3: this move is going to be crazier than we think,
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  Speaker 3: just because he's throwing today and then his next start
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  Speaker 3: should be Sunday. Unfortunately, we might have to come on
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  Speaker 3: on the weekend because I don't think he makes another
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  Speaker 3: start after this, and I think that means the next
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  Speaker 3: four days are gonna be hot and heavy, because I
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  Speaker 3: know he's the guy that teams want and they're going
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  Speaker 3: to pursue, and he'll be that domino that falls. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think they wait till Monday when you could have
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  Speaker 3: him for one extra start on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. And so give us answers to the question where
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  Speaker 2: you think he's going to end up. It is also
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  Speaker 2: on X or Twitter to be able to answer there.
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  Speaker 2: So people watching right now, we want to get your answers.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk about it later. And last thing, AJ, you're
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  Speaker 2: a reaction not speculation fan, which is fine. Some people
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  Speaker 2: love the speculation leading up. You are more of a
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  Speaker 2: tell me what happened and then I will break it
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  Speaker 2: down for you. I don't want to spend my time
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  Speaker 2: telling you what Trek School looks like in a raised
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  Speaker 2: uniform if he doesn't get traded to that.
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  Speaker 1: Team, so it waste the time.
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  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. What do we have here, Kratz. The Phillies
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  Speaker 2: are three and eight since the All Star break. They're
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  Speaker 2: not scoring runs. I want to do a quick history
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  Speaker 2: lesson that'll take a few sentences. In the offseason, Dave
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  Speaker 2: Dombrowski said that last year, Bryce Harper did not have
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  Speaker 2: an elite year. Bryce Harper was asked about the team
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  Speaker 2: right now, and I'll let him take it away with
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  Speaker 2: the quote. We'll talk through it and then we'll eventually
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  Speaker 2: get what I thought was a pretty spicy quote from
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  Speaker 2: Don Mattingley as well. But first off, you don't offer
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  Speaker 2: and hear players call their own team out and say
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  Speaker 2: we need to get some reinforcements here to the extent
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  Speaker 2: of like a seven to ten. I feel like it's
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  Speaker 2: usually a five, like hopefully our management believes in us
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  Speaker 2: and we get better. This felt a little more direct.
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  Speaker 2: Let's listen.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a line of our team would be
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  Speaker 1: good pitching in October, because presumably come October you guys
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  Speaker 1: will see quite a.
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  Speaker 5: Bit of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think we need some help, you know,
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I think we've proved, you know, pretty
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  Speaker 6: much all year, We've we've done a pretty good job.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, anytime you can get some help in
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  Speaker 6: here and reinforcements, I think it helps.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think that help would be best coming in
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  Speaker 5: the form of an arm or a band?
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  Speaker 6: I think both, you know, I think Obviously, everydon knows
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  Speaker 6: what we need. So I think I've said it over
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  Speaker 6: the last kind of days.
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  Speaker 1: We need both, no problem. But he said, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to make something out of nothing. We need help.
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  Speaker 4: So what every player says this, we need help, we
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  Speaker 4: need he they're not in first place, and they're not
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  Speaker 4: I don't have the best record in baseball, They're not
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  Speaker 4: running away with everything.
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  Speaker 1: We need some help. Okay. I mean I think this is.
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  Speaker 4: One of those things where because it's Philly, because it
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  Speaker 4: is Bryce Harper, we're gonna try to make this into
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  Speaker 4: a bigger deal than it is.
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  Speaker 1: How many times I was asked during the season, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think? Do you need something?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need help because you know what, Guys are tired,
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  Speaker 4: Guys are worn out, Guys aren't playing their best, guys
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  Speaker 4: are hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, every team.
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  Speaker 4: Says, yeah, we could use some help, whether that comes
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  Speaker 4: from guys coming off the injured list, like certain teams
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  Speaker 4: like the Dodgers have Snell and Glasstown, some of these
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  Speaker 4: guys coming off the il. The Rangers, right eventually are
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  Speaker 4: gonna get Corey Seeger back, so that's their thing, right,
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  Speaker 4: But to say this and now it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think this is a big deal. This is
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  Speaker 4: him wanting to be honest. Yeah, we need some help
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  Speaker 4: because guys are beat up, guys are tired. We're not
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  Speaker 4: playing great, you know what, We're not in first place,
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  Speaker 4: so yes, we need some help.
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  Speaker 3: I would kind of disagree. But first Scott, he didn't
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  Speaker 3: say he didn't have an elite year. Dombrowski said he's not,
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  Speaker 3: and he didn't think Freddy Freeman was the lead. So
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  Speaker 3: that was Dombrowski's comments.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe maybe.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little shot from Bryce to Dombrowski. But I
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  Speaker 3: have an example. In twenty fourteen, I was on Jose
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  Speaker 3: Bautista's Toronto Blue Jays. We were two and a half
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  Speaker 3: out of the wild card. I got traded to the
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  Speaker 3: Kansas City Royals, who was two and a half out
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  Speaker 3: of the wild card at the time. And the papers
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  Speaker 3: or Jose Bautista said in the paper, well, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: we need more than this. They traded like for Danny
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  Speaker 3: Valencia or something for me like that wasn't their big trade.
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  Speaker 3: They were hoping they would go out and get David
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  Speaker 3: Price that year. They end up getting him the next year.
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  Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm in the Royals locker room
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  Speaker 3: and the guys were like, Eh, we don't need we
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  Speaker 3: don't need help. I think we got the guys that
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  Speaker 3: we need here now. Obviously we went to Game seven
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  Speaker 3: World Series and lost. Obviously the Blue Jays didn't make
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs that year, and they made a bigger move
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  Speaker 3: the next year. I say that to say this, Harper's
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  Speaker 3: comments only matter if there are no moves, which Don
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  Speaker 3: Browski will definitely make moves, and if the Phillies don't win,
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  Speaker 3: Because really, the answer is in that locker room, who
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  Speaker 3: are they going to get That's better than Bryce Harper.
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  Speaker 3: That's better than Kyle Schwarber, That's better than Trey Turner,
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  Speaker 3: should be better than jt. Real Muto, should be better
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  Speaker 3: than Brandon Marsh was hitting, Like, there's a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: The answers are in that locker room. They need help.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel like in this case, Harper's calling out
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  Speaker 3: anybody other than you know, maybe the Gabriel Ringconees or
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  Speaker 3: the I'm trying to think who else is running a
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  Speaker 3: platoon type of thing, Like the answers are in that
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  Speaker 3: number five starter, like we just had we just had
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  Speaker 3: Brian Keller on is either number five starter? Probably not.
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  Speaker 3: They probably want a veteran type of like the answers
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  Speaker 3: are there, so I don't think he's necessarily calling anybody out.
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  Speaker 3: But is that necessary? And does that hurt somebody's feelings?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe you know whose feelings it hurts the dude that's
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  Speaker 3: a twenty fourth or twenty fifth man on the roster
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  Speaker 3: and that's just you know, does that break up the
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  Speaker 3: locker room? No, if they win, it's going to because
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  Speaker 3: of the dudes that are already in that locker room
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  Speaker 3: in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, Don maddingly thought otherwise, let's get to his comments,
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  Speaker 2: which just happened before our show.
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  Speaker 5: Since Bryce thinking about it, I don't really since anybody
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  Speaker 5: else thinking about it, honestly, and you've been through this.
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  Speaker 5: Guys want to be GM's what you need without a
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  Speaker 5: real understanding of where the organization is exactly what where
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  Speaker 5: east thing goes, not only this year.
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  Speaker 1: But moving forward.
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  Speaker 5: So again, players like being GM's and make them calls and.
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  Speaker 1: To other people's money. So I just let it go
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  Speaker 1: with that. I mean, they've been doing this a while.
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  Speaker 5: He's never really backed away from trying to get guys,
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  Speaker 5: we're trying.
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  Speaker 1: To get better. You know we're gonna try to get
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  Speaker 1: better at the deadline, so we did. Am I bothered?
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  Speaker 5: No, I just don't like I don't like it from
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  Speaker 5: the fact of what I've always what I've been saying
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  Speaker 5: that you're saying that we don't like our players better here,
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  Speaker 5: and I just don't. I think you're always trying to
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  Speaker 5: get better.
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  Speaker 1: You should always.
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  Speaker 5: Incrementally try to get better, no matter who you are.
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  Speaker 5: If you're you're the Dodgers who've won too straight they're
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  Speaker 5: trying to get better in different ways. We're in the
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  Speaker 5: same boat, right, You're always trying to get better. But
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  Speaker 5: I'm to say something in it.
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  Speaker 1: About our team.
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  Speaker 5: Then you're saying something about one of our players that you.
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  Speaker 1: Don't like it. Do you feel we need to talk
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  Speaker 1: to him in articulation? Not really, I mean Bryce is Bryce.
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  Speaker 5: He's gonna say what he wants, So I'm not really
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  Speaker 5: concerned about it. I just take it kind of with
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  Speaker 5: a grain salt and knowing how players are over the years.
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  Speaker 1: I heard this. This is not the first time I've
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  Speaker 1: heard this. You know, we need, we need I always
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  Speaker 1: look at it like internally, you know, I gotta get better.
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  Speaker 1: We got to get better.
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  Speaker 5: And that's simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, if you think what Bryce said is fine and
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, AJ, then you can't like what
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  Speaker 2: Don Mattingly said because he basically went against him. Then
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  Speaker 2: you know, Donnie, he's pretty chill and mild manner. That
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  Speaker 2: was Donnie going full blast.
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  Speaker 4: Uh No, Donnie was trying to diffuse it and just
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  Speaker 4: put an end to it and say, hey, Bryce can
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  Speaker 4: say what he wants. And I'm a manager and I
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  Speaker 4: have to manage twenty six people, twenty five others besides Bryce,
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  Speaker 4: plus plus the coaching staff, plus front office. So Donnie's saying, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 4: this is how I'm gonna shut this down.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with either one of.
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  Speaker 4: Them saying this. This is Bryce says he wants some help. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: he has righteo's opinion. Don Mattingly said that, and Don
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  Speaker 4: Mattingley has to deal with all twenty six players, and
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  Speaker 4: he's saying Bryce can't say what he wants.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do I like it that he's saying this.
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  Speaker 4: No, But at the same time, I have to shut
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  Speaker 4: this down and try to nip it in the bud
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  Speaker 4: because we're in Philly.
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  Speaker 1: So both of them did their job. Both of them
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  Speaker 1: said what they want to say. I have no problem
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  Speaker 1: with either one of this.
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  Speaker 4: Again, I think this is getting blown way out of
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  Speaker 4: proportion and it's not that big of a deal.
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  Speaker 3: I love this because we get to see the how
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  Speaker 3: Don Mattingly thinks he would have handled it when he
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  Speaker 3: was a star. He was essentially Bryce Harper. Bryce Harper's
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  Speaker 3: not a Hall of Famer yet Don matting was having
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  Speaker 3: a star type of career. He missed the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 3: So they're like, kind of on that page. Isn't this
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  Speaker 3: why they brought Don Mattingly into this coaching staff in
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  Speaker 3: the first place. They needed some of that could be
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  Speaker 3: able to speak to some of these stars like this.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, but I've covered Don Mattingly for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: I know you guys know him and have covered him too.
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  Speaker 2: The first part of that quote is something that you
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  Speaker 2: don't see very often from him, like the oh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: players love to spend the money and make all these
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  Speaker 2: moves and call this out and all of that. Like,
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  Speaker 2: to me, that sounds a little bit management, tapering down
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  Speaker 2: players from commenting about how they feel. I agree with you, guys,
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Harper should be able to say, yeah, we need help.
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  Speaker 2: Why do they need Well, first of all, if you're
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  Speaker 2: a contending team, every contending team should be looking to
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  Speaker 2: make trades. And the Phillies have very obvious needs with outfield,
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  Speaker 2: starting pitcher, and of course some bullpen helps. So yes,
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  Speaker 2: they do need help. It's fair for him to say that.
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  Speaker 2: And I do think that you don't think that this
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  Speaker 2: has anything to do with Dombrowski from the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the season and Bryce being like, Hey, I'm gonna I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to push back to the front office and be like, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: make sure you supplement this because the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I've called out with the Phillies for years that I've
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  Speaker 2: been on the money with is the product from especially
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  Speaker 2: from the offensive side, has not been there. In the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: You can say, oh, is the Dodgers pitching this go round?
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  Speaker 2: And they were really close and all of that, but
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: it's it's a few guys and then and we've seen
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: that right now, Kratz. It's a few guys and then
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: it looks like the rest of the lineup needs help.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's top heavy here.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, yes, Bryce would love somebody to protect him.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I think Boris even said that in the offseason he
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: needs somebody behind Bryce. So maybe there's some of that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe he wants somebody protecting him. I can get I
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: can get on board with that theory. But this is what.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Just put a microphone in front of every one of
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: the relievers during the game. All the relievers in the
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: bullpen play GM the entire game. Hey what about this guy?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: What about Oh? I don't think they're going to get
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: rid of that guy. You know, those conversations do happen
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: all the time because players have a lot of time
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: on there.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, so nothing.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Guys do this all the time. They just doesn't get public.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: And Bryce didn't call anybody out specifically. Bryce didn't say
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I we need this, we need dot. He said we
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: need a hitter and a starter or a pitcher. Okay,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: every team out there would say I could use another starter, pitcher, hitter.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: They could every team that's in contention. If you went
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: to any team in baseball right now, maybe.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Not the Dodgers.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: The Dodgers might not say this, but the Dodgers guys
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: will probably even say the same thing. If you were like, hey,
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: full transparency here what do you think we need? Every
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: team would say we need a pitcher and a hitter.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Boom done. Okay, okay.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Only thing I'll point out one more time is the
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: first part of the answer. Guys want to be a
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: GM for what you need without a real understanding of
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: where the organization is, exactly where this thing goes, not
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: only this year, but moving forward. Players like being gms
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and making calls and spending other people's money. I'll just
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: let it go at that. Come on from Don Mattingly,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: You think that means nothing.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: He's shutting it down. He's trying to shut it down.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: He's telling the truth. Guys trying to him. We do
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: it on the show, Scott, We do it on the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: show all the time. We spend other people's money. It's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: so easy to spend other people's money.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: We do it all the time. He's just basically saying,
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I don't want this to become a big story.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: It's over with. Guys do this all the time.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Don Mattingly was trying to be as politically correct as
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: he could and not cause a bigger stink.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. I think a lot of fans looked
• 18:28
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• 18:30
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• 18:32
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• 18:34
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• 18:38
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• 18:40
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• 18:43
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• 18:45
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  Speaker 2: Poor Curtis Mead, Oh my goodness, AJ. It originally looked like, okay,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: maybe day to day, that's what we talked about on
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the prior show. Now it's like, wait, he fractured his wrist.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: So it's a player that's going to a significant time.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: It could be surgery, could be done for the season.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Even if it's not surgery, I think it's still looking
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: at probably a two month recovery timetable. August is around
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the corner, August September, that brings us to October, Like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: this is devastating news for the player to be excited
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to go to a new team in a park like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: this that he can take advantage of and continue his
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: breakout season. So thoughts on how this affects, of course
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: him and the Red Sox now aftermath, like do you
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: just basically do what jab said and start making the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: phone calls for another righty with pop?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Yes, you do exactly what Jim Boden said as far
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: as the player goes, I've been through this. I remember,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you know, you get X rays, nothing happens, nothing happens,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: and boom, all of a sudden, you get more imaging
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: and they find a crack or they find a small frack.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: You're in there and then you're out, and then you
• 21:02
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• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I remember when I broke my wrist. I broke my
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: left wrist and it was in the middle of August
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: and the White Sox Radaway was like, well, you're out
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: for the year.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: You have to have surgery.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: And I was like after they couldn't find on the
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: original X ray anything wrong with it. They're just like, oh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: it's just a bruise, would just heat nice and then
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: boom a couple of days later, it's not getting any better.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: You'll get more imaging, they find what's broken, and then
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: they say, oh, you're out for the season automatically, and
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: then as the player, you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: take a let's take a step back here. You have
• 21:29
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• 21:32
  Speaker 4: meat is doing this. Like I fowt a guy named
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Tom Graham who was in Cleveland at the time.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Who was the number one hand guy in the world.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: We sat down for hours and discussed whether I should
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: have surgery. And then the question I always ask a doctor,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: if I was your son and you were giving me advice,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: what would you do? And you basically that out there,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't do the surgery they want you to have.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I think you'll be fine, You'll be able to heal.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: It's just going to be pain tolerance. And I was
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: back playing in two weeks.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Should I have been I don't know.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: But I wanted to finish the year and I wanted
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: to not be hurt for that rest of the year,
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: for the last six weeks, So I played the last
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: month of the year with a broken wrist. Okay, fine,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: now me, I don't know what his I don't know
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: what his diagnosis is. I don't know where he's at,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: but I know he's having the best year of his career.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: So he doesn't want it to end. So he's going
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: to do everything in his power to get back on
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: the field. And if you're the Red Sox, man, it's
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: just bad luck. It is bad luck. It could have
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: happened to any time, any point anywhere. If you're the
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: if you're the if you're the Gnats, you're like, who,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: we dodged a bullet and we got Connolly early. Wow,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: that's amazing. And if you're the Red Sox, you got
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: to just keep on truck and keep playing. Well, I
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: hope you're pitching holds up and find another bat because
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that no one's gonna feel sorry for you.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I promise, yeah, I don't.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any other way than just continue
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: to truck on and honestly, like, if you're the Gnats,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you've made hitters this year, so deal from your hitters
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: game pitchers like they did with Early, and continue from there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: If you're the Red Sox, they I love their pitching
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: lab or what they've created with pitching. That's why they
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: didn't fire any of those dudes, so they feel like
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: they can create pitching. They can they have pitching, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: if they don't rate now, you know, or if they
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: get rid of some of these guys right now, they
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: can create more pitching. So continue to trade from that
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: because if they truly think they're as good as they're
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: eighteen of twenty wins, then yeah, you have to push in.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: You have to make that move, as Jim said, for
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: a netto because he's going to give you ten to
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: fifteen homers for the rest of the season. You're talking
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: about a guy that's controllable at a position that you
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: know what, maybe they're out of love for Trevor Story.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, and that's part of the equation here too.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: For the Red Sox. You know, Trevor Story is still out,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: he's been out since late May. Hernie a surgery for him.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: And then you've got you know, Marcella Meyer was supposed
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: to have a big year. He's had his fair share
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of injuries and underperformance so far this season. So you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: there are some guys that could come back and make
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: an impact. The problem is when you're Boston made this
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: awesome winning streak run, you're still a fringe playoff team, like,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: they still need to continue to truck forward from here.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: You can't take a step back. So that's why they're
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: looking for some immediate reinforcements. You only have a few
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: days to figure this out. Also, they're not the only
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: ones that are interested in Zach Nedo right now. So
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: for example, Robert Murray from fan Sided an FT insider,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: reported that the Rays are looking into Nedo. They're also
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: looking into Freddy Peralta. Those are some players that they
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: have interested. So I'm like, Okay, the Rays have prospect capital,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: they can definitely keep up in a trade with the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Red Sox if they're bidding for the same player at
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: AJ and Tampa Bay might make a big splash like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: that and then send Boston back to the drawing board.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: And I know that's not the only player that's available,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: but just using someone like Neto as a prime example
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: here of someone that will give you above average offense,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: different kind offensive profile, but going to give you a
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: lot of pop. I know some people in the chat
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: we're talking about the plate discipline and all that, Okay,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I mean every player has a different profile. That's what
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Zach Netto brings to the table. He's an a swing,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: big home run guy right, going for thirty plus from
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: the middle infield. So anyway, thoughts on Neto and Rai's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: interest and how this could become you know something interesting
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: here if they even want to trade him, Let's remember
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: what Ken rosant, He's going to be already Morino might
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: not trade him.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to be traded.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I don't think Neto's gonna be traded because already Morino
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: likes stars, and I think that already Mano thinks that
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Neto's a star, so I don't think he wants to
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: trade him. That's one of the reasons why Croud has
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: been there and already loves position player stars. So I
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: don't think he's going to be treated. But this goes
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: back to the Rays. They're casting a wide net to
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: see because they what we were just told, what were
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: we just told that they think this is their chance
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: to really make a run in the American League because
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: it's so down. So I think that Eric Neander and
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: those get in the front office, and Kevin Cash and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: and all the rest of the raised people are saying,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: we got a chance to hear guys to at least
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: make the World Series because the American League is so down,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: and I think Netto is a name that has been
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: talked about. Now can they get them? I don't know, but.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I think the Rays are going to try everything they
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: can to really improve this team.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I'm not saying they're not going
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to try to improve the team. I just don't think
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Netto's a guy if he were on if he were
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: on the Rays roster, we'd be talking about getting to
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: that point where the Rays get rid of a player
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: like this and all of a sudden they're going to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: go and pick him up. Like it's not that he's
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a he's not a star. He's the type of guy
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: that the Rays are like, oh we can we can
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: definitely flip this. And I think this is the This
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: is when the Red Sox have to move. They were
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: reluctant to move when any bats they balked at Alex Bregman.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I think Bregman wanted to come back. He told them
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: what it was going to take, and they balked on it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Whether it's Breslo or front office. Like, to me, this
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: is when Boston while they're still a fringe team, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, that winning streak really gave them
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit of you know, makeup on a pig,
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: a little false, false evaluation of themselves. I think they
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: can still add to this team for the coming years.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And the Marcella Meyer thing not being able to play
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: short or not not having as good a year like
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: he was a shortstop coming up. You don't just like
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: go to the big leagues and then say, hey, you
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: know what, we're gonna play at third. We're gonna play
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: at second. But you're still supposed to hit during this
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: whole time, and you're supposed to play through injuries. I
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: think that's tough to ask of a young player, but
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: they're doing it because they weren't willing to bring in
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: that older veteran guy who should be able to do that,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: not a young twenty two to twenty three year old.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: You know. Also, I like to give context on how
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the league evaluates players. To put it simply for wins
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: above replacement, right, and whatever the league or many teams
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: use their version, it's very very similar to the war
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: number zero to two is more of like your bench
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: player or whatever, you know, low end starter. When we
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: get to the four to five range, that's actually a
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: star player. Two to three is like solid every day guy.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Four to five is when you're getting to all star status,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and then when you're getting to six to seven, that's
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: superstar status, and then MVP status above that. Okay, zach
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: netto Baseball Reference War twenty twenty four or five point
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: one twenty twenty five, five point three currently two point
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: nine on pace for probably pretty close to five. The
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: league is saying this a star player, I should get
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a All Star turn. When you watch him, do you
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: necessarily think that? I don't know. At some times sometimes
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you do. I don't know if that would be like
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: coming to mind right away. And I don't even know
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: if he's made an All Star team yet. Nope, he hasn't.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But that is the evaluation point. So it's going to
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: be painful if you're trading for control of a shortstop
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: who is looked at as a star player.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I think the eye test.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I think the eye test there has to stand out
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: a little bit because if you ask people are on
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: the Angels in putting people on Halo territory, they don't
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: think that he is that right?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And think you're saying that they don't think that he
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: is a star and they watch him every night, so yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know the numbers are the numbers, but
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: what is he two thirty with nineteen?
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: What is it just numbers?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I forget exactly what his numbers are?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Nineteen?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I mean this two thirty nineteen, you know, seven sixty two? Ops?
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: I mean is that a five war player? I guess
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: it is in today's game, So I mean strikeouts. There's
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of strikeouts in there, not a ton of wars.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I mean only two according to MLB.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: So well that's the MLB. I think that's the firefighters.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I know war, but that's.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: The MLB version.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: That's why.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: That's why, because I agree not everyone now everyone calculated
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: the same.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I think zach Ndo is a really good player, and
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I think he could help some teams, but I don't
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: know if he's franchise altering like I think some people
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: might be thinking he is.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's fair. It's a good combo. And now
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the Red Sox have to go back to the drawing
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: board and they're gonna have to compete because there's just
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: not a ton necessary available. We're not hearing a ton
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: of teams. Go all right, we're throwing the towel in
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: right now, let's step aside for one quick minute and
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  Speaker 2: Sodo helps you use it. This is like half injuries
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: suck because he's still playing, he's hitting. It's just a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: matter of when he'll be pitching again, Katie Wu from
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Dodger's Territory and the Athletics said, speaking to the media
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: for the first time since before the break, Otani said
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: both his left knee and right bicep are not one
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: hundred percent, which further factored into him not throwing the
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: bullpen last weekend. Dave Roberts said the Dodgers still expect
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Otani to pitch in October, so this sounds like it'll
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: be some extended time away from the mound here that
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: will continue for the Dodgers. We know that right We've
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: talked about the Cy Young race being done for him
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and that whole song and dance. Let's relate it to
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: what's going on right now. Aj do you think that
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers should be concerned in terms of what their
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: rotation is going to look like in October or everything
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: is still in line? Is in Katie's articles, she almost
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: is writing how the Dodgers might sell at the deadline,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: not anybody significant. But they get into these roster crunches,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and they did sell a little bit last year at
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: the deadline with someone like Dustin May It just they'll
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: look at somebody and be like, oh, this is this
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: is not a five starter for us anymore. This is
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: not a fourth or fifth outfielder for us anymore. Let's
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: trade him away and replenish the farm system. So thoughts
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: on what the rotation could look like and if the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Dodgers are going to end up selling you know, one
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: of their back end roster guys.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I mean the Dodgers. Anything is possible for the Dodgs.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: You know how show heard his vice? Have I heard
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: from someone? Because when he was carrying the World Series
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: trophies into the Oval office and putting him on the
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: desk of the office, did you guys see that?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: But he was like a look at me, guys, I
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: got two.
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: Now because I'm not on the Angels anymore. But uh yeah, listen,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know. This is a question that I had
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: from the get go. If you guys remember what Hams
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: of Showy Wake seven goes Man, pitching is really hard.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do that anymore. I just want
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: to be a hitter. Is the contract still worth it? It is, absolutely,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: but the numbers look a little bit differently. So do
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I think they're gonna make a move. Yes, I think
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: they're gonna make a move. Do I think that they
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: will deal anyone significant away, No, But they make They
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: love to tweak. They're always tweaking. And the reason they
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: can tweak is because even some of their veteran guys
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: of Taoscar Hernandez, we heard team other teams would love
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: to have a Taioscar Hernandez Phillies.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: They probably take Tioscar Hernandez right now.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: They'd have to eat a lot of his money, but
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: they would probably take him because he would be a
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: right handed hitting outfielder that has playoff experience. So I
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: think the Dodgers will make moves. I just don't know
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: that the Dodgers will make a move where we're like, Wow,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: we're blown away by what they just did.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure who said it. I might even ken
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: the Dodgers are just lurking around the backboard. So when
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: a team fumbles, and this is where a lot of
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: this is forgotten, fans just think Dodgers spend all the
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: money they get everybody. They're just lurking around the backboard,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: and when there's a rebound, they don't just put it
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: back up into the hoop. They dunk on the league.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: So yes, I would agree with AJ that they're not
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: going to make any like they don't feel like they
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: need to make moves. Maybe what Katie said, Hey, you
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: know what, replenish a farm system? Always looking to make moves.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Just be careful. They're always lurking because
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: they have a lot of value and they're never afraid
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: of making the big move when other teams in this
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: situation are afraid of making the big move.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Right, And she mentioned in the article names like Alex
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Call and Eric Lower as potential trade pieces for the Dodgers.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: So we need to figure out Otani's pitching status eventually. AJ.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Tyler Glass now has missed most of the year. Blake
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Snell's almost back, He's missed most of the year. Yamamoto
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: is a dog in a gy and he's there for them.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: But those are the has been better they're relying on.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I know, do you trust him in a playoff start? No?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: But he's been better.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I agree, I mean he's been better. I trust.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I trust him giving you innings right now, say what
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I've seen.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: His last James ty On, don't say that. Because I
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: said about James and ty On yesterday. Cup fans are
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: after me with pitchforks.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh fine, I don't care Jameson.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: And then, by the way, and I was gonna say
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: this about yesterdays show when I said Shoda has been good,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: not great, They're like, oh, Tyan's given up twenty five,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: homers Well show's given up twenty two and has a
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: three point ninety race. I'm like, okay, I mean he's
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: been good, he hasn't been great. Shoda hasn't been as
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: great as he was the first year.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But Cubs fans, I love you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I'll see you on Saturday when the Yankees are in
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: town so you can all wait.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I love that. I love that. You already just just
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: sprinkled it in you. You are always around the corner
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: for Cubs fans, always swimming in their heads.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm always around the corner for comments in general.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I had a Dodgers fan just recently say oh, this
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: has become an anti Dodgers show. I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: here we go we hate them all.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably Cner account.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It could have been. Let me get back on track. Yes,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: we didn't mention this, but the Rokie Suzaki longer glove
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to prevent pitch tipping. I buy that story. They said
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: they felt like he was tipping eyewashed from prats. I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: mean he's also he's also throwing what's called strikes, and
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: that helps you to not record what's called walks. That's
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a big thing too, is if you have good stuff
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: landed in the zone and then they go boom, strike one.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And then also that stuff can go outside of the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: zone and they chase it. It's a crazy, crazy concept
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: when I try to explain people how complicated my job
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: is to talk baseball all the time. Anyway, we'll see,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: we'll see what October looks like for the Dodgers. And yes,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: let's give the Dodgers territory promo before we talk about
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: the mess in San Francisco. Yes, Kratz, Clint, Katie Alana Dodgers' territory.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I saw the spot you guys did with Katie the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: other day, and it was good fun and good information,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: and that's what you're looking for in your Baseball content
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: part of the FT Network. Go get the show. Okay,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: staying in the NL West. Not one, not two, but
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: three injuries for the Giants. This really sucks. Casey Schmidt
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: torn meniscus in his left knee. He's been their best player.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I think he was on pace for thirty plus homers.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: He's been awesome, Just an awesome player who took a
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: little time to become his true self in the major leagues.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: And teams were apparently calling about him left and right,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: and the Giants weren't going to trade him anyway. But
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: he'll miss some time. That's one. Let's rack all of
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: them and then we'll get responses. Here more bad news
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: for the Giants. This is all in the past twenty
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: four hours. This is basically all last night. Trevor McDonald
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: ucl reconstruction surgery is going to go down for him
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: next week. He's shown some flashes this year. And then
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: number three update on Harrison Bader from Alex Pavlovich. He
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: went to see a specialist for his planter fasciitis. The
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Giants announced that Bader had a scooter accident on Saturday
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: night early Sunday morning and he further injured that left foot.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: He's going to get an MRI for the new injury.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So those reports all came out around the same time there,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: and it's it's just a freaking disaster in San Francisco
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: this year. Now the injuries are starting to pile up
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: on top of that. It wasn't even one of those
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: situations where you know how sometimes aj they go, oh, well,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: you know, this isn't our year, everyone's hurt. It wasn't
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: really that for San Francisco. Now the injuries are starting
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: to pile up on top of that, and they're not
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: in it, so they're selling and they will sell.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It's been just a disaster of a season for the Giants.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. There's no other way to put it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: From everything they could have gone wrong has gone wrong
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: for him. But by the way, I just want to
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: say this about the fasciitis. I've had it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It sucks, man.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know how to get rid of it. I
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: don't know how they say you get shots. I won't
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: get a shot on my foot because it just doesn't
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: seem like it's going to do anything. But I have it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: I've had it for a while. That junk hurts, man.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: It hurts every day, and then a scooter accident on
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: top of it with Harrison Vader. I mean, I remember
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: guys used to ride their scooters San Francisco Park all
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: the time, even back when I was playing there.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I refuse to do it.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: But it's the first time I remember a guy getting
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: in a scooter accent hurting their fasci I just wear.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: So it's just bad. Look, Casey Schmidt. Bad look.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: Everything everything that could go wrong, including scooters, has gone wrong.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: It's interesting to me that they wouldn't have traded Casey Schmidt.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Interesting to me that you have a guy who's got
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: like he's it in two seventy with like a three
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: hundred on base percentage. Casey Schmid's having a great year.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: But to me, if I'm the Giants, I am selling
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: high in a market that wanted right handed bats. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: a mute point. It's a mute point, and it's tough
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: because now it really just kind of leaves the Giants
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: with you know, they're just expiring. Were really getting for
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Robbie Ray? What are you really getting for the most
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: traded player in the last five years? And Luisa Rais,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: who no teams really wanted to pay for anyway. I
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: just think there's Yeah, it's tough because now you've got
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: to run it back next year, and is Casey Schmid
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: can to have the same type of year you hope?
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: So I think there's flashes, But again with the lack
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: of plate discipline, is there really a ton of value
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: for him moving forwards.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes you look at your ball club and
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: for the Giants, they dislike it so much that they're like, well,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: this guy's been our best player. For a bad team
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: to trade away their best player under years of control,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: and he can play a number of positions. That's probably
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: part of the thought process. And also, I mean he's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: got twenty one home runs this year as a Giant player,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that's really difficult. I mean, the amount of power that
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: goes to die in that franchise when it comes from
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: else somewhere else. I think maybe they just felt like
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: they found the right fit for the organization, and you know,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's like this is the right type of player
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: that we want within the org. Agent you can speak
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: to this. Look at the White Sox turnaround the types
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: of players that they had in the clubhouse two three
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: years ago versus the guys that are showing up now
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that can't wait to get there. The guys, and I'm generalizing,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: there were plenty that wanted to be there, but there
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: were definitely some guys that were just always out and
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: it felt like hit by pitch, I'm going down. While
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: now it's like they've got a guy who purposely basically
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: gets hit by pitches to get on. Basin loves it.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's a different thing.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: But I mean the biggest thing for me is Raffi Devers,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: Like Raffie Devers was supposed to be that great star.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: He has a materialized right William Domas signs the big
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: contract over there.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: He hasn't had a great year.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Logan Web's been fine, but Robbie Ray has been in
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: and out of pitching up and down as far as
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: his return right, It's just it's just how worked. I mean,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Tody Vitello, you can argue whatever with him, and hasn't worked.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, they have the worst records.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: It's just been a comedy of errors, which sucks because
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: I like Buster Posey and I want him to succeed
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: because I want more baseball people in front office roles.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: But it just hasn't worked.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: We haven't heard much about a Dominis, and it doesn't
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: sound like teams have crazy interest. But do you think
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: there's any world where the Giants eats some money and
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: then trade him away. No, he hasn't been terrible, he's
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: just been You don't think he's a serviceable middle infielder.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: No, I do, But I think there's I think there's
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: enough value for the Giants to keep him. That's why
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: they signed him when other teams weren't willing to go
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: that big. And I think he costs too much for
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the value that he's bringing. I mean, I think his
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: numbers I would have to look it up here, but
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: I think his numbers are pretty much on par with
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: where he had been throughout his career except for yeah,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I mean he's actually above one eight one eight ops plus,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: but his best year was twenty twenty one when he
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: went over to the Brewers from the Race. So I
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: think I think he adds a culture to that lineup
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: that I think that's what they paid for. And I
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: think moving forward, he's going to be the shortstop unless
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: they have somebody coming up through the ranks. So I
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: don't think. I don't think the fit is there throughout
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: the league for him, somewhere.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Else is short. You're right about twenty twenty one for
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: a Domis. That was the standout year since then. If
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you look, for example, at last year AJ, that was
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: right up there with a top season of a Damas
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: from twenty twenty two through twenty twenty five.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: I just think that I think teams look at him
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: as a one dimensional guy because his defense isn't great
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: and they want defense. He doesn't steal a lot of bases.
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: They just look at him. I think is a power
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: guy and his defense isn't enough to make up for
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: the lack of other stuff and the amount of money
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: he's being paid. Teams are like, we're not doing that.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: We're not going to take that on as an aging player.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's not that old, but as an aging
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: player in today's game at a premium defensive position, he
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: doesn't play defense great.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: It's just a lot for teams to take on. That's
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: why there's no interest in him.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: And I think he's a really good player, but it's
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: just the way of the game in today's world.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Thirty years old, everyone's looking for right handed pop. You
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: hit thirty home runs with the Giants, last year. It's
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: like forty five in most other parks, right, if you're
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: playing half your games in San Francisco. I don't know.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: I just think he's being shit on a little bit
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: too much in terms of the industry perspective. I could
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: be off there, but playing the eye test game, AJ,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: No, I agree.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about me for.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: A today's game.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: In today's game, that's not the way it's looked at Scott.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think he's a good player, I really do.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: But I just think he's making too much and his
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: defense doesn't rank up there high enough to where teams
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: are like, Okay, we can live with his defense being
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: a little bit bad, but he still hits thirty homers.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: That's the teams are like, and he's thirty and he's
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: making this much money. It's just it's just not the
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: way teams evaluate guys anymore.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Well, for San Francisco Giants, fans hope that you can
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: get a nice return for a number of deals. And yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I hope that they figure something out for at least
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: one of the big money players, because it sounds like
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: they're anxious to move one of them. I know it's
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: going to be very difficult to pull off, but most
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: likely you see more of the Robbie Ray Luis rays.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Those trades will definitely go down a few minutes. Left
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: a few things to show you. Did you guys see
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: the Alec Thomas collision? Oh the mascot there. We posted
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: about it and it picked up millions of views, and
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: it was actually from the weekend, and then we found
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: it a couple of days later, like nobody had really
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: put much up about it, but it was. It was
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: a tough collision. I think he's okay, but AJ, that
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: was a that was a hit. I think we do
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: we have it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering did you get hurt because you
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: didn't hear anything about it. You know what's funny is
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: though that game was actually I remember I was watching
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: the Strippers and someone else play and then after that
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: they went to Okay see in the river Cats, And
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, wow, I wonder if I know anybody,
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: and I forgot Alec Thomas. Maybe if I had been
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: watching the game, he would have got a little more
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: attention from you, but wow, he got he got rocked.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: No way saw it happening. You forget you forget that
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: they do those races. You forget that they do all
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: that stuff. And that guy was cooking. The mascot was
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: cooking on that scooter. Another scooter accident.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Right, I should mention, Yeah, this isn't running into someone.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: This is scootering into someone. It's it's dangerous. So it's
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: on our FT Twitter from last night if you want
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to check it out. That's one Two other things that
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: we posted about last night. One was Dean Kramer calling
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: out Pete Alonzo. Did you guys see that?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: That was like I don't think Yeah, wasn't a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: He was just asking.
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  Speaker 3: Him because there's there's definitely some there's definitely places. Now.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't go back and watch the replay, but I
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  Speaker 3: just saw his reaction like can you see can you
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  Speaker 3: can you see in Pete's like what?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Because you think about where the levels come together of
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  Speaker 3: the stadiums, there's a gap and if it's early in
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  Speaker 3: the game, midway through, sun can be poking through. We
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  Speaker 3: just saw it the other day. The I think it
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  Speaker 3: what didn't netto do a bounce pass from third base
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  Speaker 3: in the shift to finished or to start the double
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  Speaker 3: play that there's the sun goes right through a gap
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes the right side of the infield, second base
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  Speaker 3: and first base have a tough time seeing the ball.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. Okay, So he was literally asking him
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  Speaker 2: can you see? Not trying to be offensive.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think it was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he wasn't trying to be offensive at all.
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  Speaker 4: If you ever been to Colorado, Colorado, the first baseman
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  Speaker 4: can't see and pictures of don't throw balls, cay can
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  Speaker 4: you see?
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  Speaker 2: M m. What about the umpire seeing Xander Bogart asked
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: to challenge a pitch and him acting like he's so
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  Speaker 2: busy with the padres dugout that he can't acknowledge the challenge,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: the abs challenge.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just sure this is all this.
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  Speaker 3: This is something that I think is that I think
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  Speaker 3: I would have never thought of this, but it's shown
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  Speaker 3: up several times. Why can't the other guys? Why can't
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  Speaker 3: Why can't first or third base? It's probably easier for
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  Speaker 3: the first base umpire to see it. He's not involved
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  Speaker 3: in somebody yelling at the umpire and a dugout. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the umpire looked away, He looked away. I think there
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: was another situation where umpire, why can't they pick it up?
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  Speaker 3: And be like, I did see that. It's almost like
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: a check swing, like he clearly Xander clearly checked. I
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: think Xander would have been wrong in this situation. So
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: it's good he didn't use it. But it's the principle
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  Speaker 3: of it. Why can't the first and third base umpires
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  Speaker 3: also be watching and be like, hey, no, actually you
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  Speaker 3: did get it.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely it could happen, it just didn't. It seemed personal.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: We were tempted form show, but we're too busy with
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: trade talk. AJ's request, of course, too busy with trade talk.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: After next week we talked ball, we talk games, but
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: keep the trade questions coming. It's been awesome. Plenty of
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: other insider guests joining us for some for some Christmas,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: for me, whatever holiday you want to say. For for
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: a J. Kratzet on the way out.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Sneaky suspicion that they're going to do something that we're
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: going to be like, I didn't see that coming from
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the from the A's of Sacramento.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to see it. Yeah, I mean, their their
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: core is kind of disappointed this year too. I'd like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: to see they're.
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  Speaker 3: Going to do.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: We're going to get rid of some guys.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: That are going to get Of course, they need to
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: get some long term pitching out.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: John Fisher is going to say, man, my payroll is
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: way too high. I got to pair this thnk out quickly.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Today's the time promised.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Wait, it's not just John anymore, it's Mark Cuban. Maybe
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: we'll get to that story next week. He is now
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: partial owner of the A's. Anyway, we'll see y'all on Thursday.
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