Latest / The Skol Hop / Free beer and the Vikings win over the Packers - Doesn’t get much better! | TSH Ep. 60
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the School Hob. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
- 0:05Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
- 0:07Speaker 1: beer talking about the Vikings.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Yeah, we do.
- 0:09Speaker 3: And tonight is episode sixty, which is awesome. Feels like
- 0:13Speaker 3: a really cool milestone. I can't believe we've been doing
- 0:16Speaker 3: it this long. And here's to another sixty and beyond.
- 0:18Speaker 3: But for tonight, we try new to us brewery, one
- 0:22Speaker 3: that neither of us had ever tried before, and I
- 0:24Speaker 3: think I think we both liked it pretty good.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Unfortunately for me, I was the victim of the wheel
- 0:32Speaker 1: of purple punishments. You had correctly picked the Vikings would
- 0:35Speaker 1: win against the Packers, and I had predicted preseason that
- 0:38Speaker 1: they would lose. So I was the victim of the wheel.
- 0:41Speaker 1: So you'll get to experience my punishment compliments of the wheel.
- 0:46Speaker 1: So that was fun.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And after that we recapped the pack the
- 0:50Speaker 3: win against the Packers and hopefully the upcoming win in
- 0:54Speaker 3: London against the Jets this week.
- 0:56Speaker 1: And you kind of posed another question to me similar
- 1:00Speaker 1: to what you did last week, but we continue kind
- 1:03Speaker 1: of this conversation about Sam Donald and what do the
- 1:05Speaker 1: Vikings do after this season with this quarterback, Sam Donald,
- 1:10Speaker 1: if he continues to play the way that he has.
- 1:12Speaker 1: It was it was a tough question, and I kind
- 1:14Speaker 1: of struggled to answer it. Yeah, so it'll be interesting
- 1:17Speaker 1: to see for sure.
- 1:19Speaker 3: For sure, and in some ways I kind of hope
- 1:20Speaker 3: it keeps being a tough question. But all that to
- 1:23Speaker 3: say for tonight, grab a cold one, join us for
- 1:26Speaker 3: episode sixty and we'll get going from there. It's cool,
- 1:50Speaker 3: all right. As we get started here, we we gotta
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- 2:27Speaker 3: Thanks guys. Well you know what time it is. I know,
- 2:31Speaker 3: I'm so excited for this one. I was just telling
- 2:33Speaker 3: you I helped that because you're the only one that
- 2:35Speaker 3: has to spin the wheel of Purple Punishments.
- 2:38Speaker 2: But now that it's like here, I'm kind of excited.
- 2:41Speaker 2: I just want to get it over with.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I don't want to have to eat alapanos or do
- 2:46Speaker 1: the send them a challenge, anything crazy like that.
- 2:49Speaker 2: I will cheer you on.
- 2:50Speaker 1: I can like a blindfold. I'll deal with it. Sitting
- 2:53Speaker 1: in a child's chair, I'll deal with it. What else,
- 2:57Speaker 1: taking a shot of apple cider vinegar, I can deal
- 2:59Speaker 1: with that.
- 3:00Speaker 2: That might not be too bad. Actually, so here we go.
- 3:03Speaker 3: Well, hold on, shall we preface us really quick? Oh yeah,
- 3:06Speaker 3: we are about to do our segment called Purple Punishments,
- 3:11Speaker 3: where we made our preseason picks. I forget which episode
- 3:14Speaker 3: fifty one or something like that, back a handful of
- 3:17Speaker 3: episodes we made game by game preseason picks, and this
- 3:22Speaker 3: segment is if either of us get those picks wrong,
- 3:26Speaker 3: then whoever got that wrong would have to spin the
- 3:28Speaker 3: wheel of Purple Punishments and do whatever the wheel says.
- 3:33Speaker 1: And so far, the two times we've spun the wheel,
- 3:36Speaker 1: we've both been wrong, and so we've both had to
- 3:38Speaker 1: suffer the punishments.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Now, this week, you picked the Vikings to beat the
- 3:44Speaker 1: packers to leave, and I picked them to lose to
- 3:48Speaker 1: the packers. So here we are, there's the context.
- 3:52Speaker 2: We're gonna spend it. It's just right here, here we go.
- 3:55Speaker 2: I'm so excited all the sound effect.
- 4:00Speaker 3: Take a shot of apple cider vinegar. Man, I feel
- 4:03Speaker 3: like you got you got off easy this time.
- 4:05Speaker 2: I can deal with that. Well, you're not gonna love it,
- 4:07Speaker 2: but but.
- 4:10Speaker 1: It's a good thing. I texted you earlier because I
- 4:12Speaker 1: told you. I said we should get some Viking shot
- 4:15Speaker 1: glasses if we're going to have to do that one,
- 4:17Speaker 1: and you delivered.
- 4:18Speaker 2: So it's actually closer to you.
- 4:20Speaker 1: We've got a little pantry going on back here and
- 4:22Speaker 1: a whole bunch of groceries, so this will be interesting.
- 4:26Speaker 3: Man, this is genuine apple cider vinegar, and this is
- 4:29Speaker 3: you bought a lot of apple cider.
- 4:31Speaker 1: Well I just went to the dollar store. I just
- 4:32Speaker 1: like went off of our list. Do you want to
- 4:34Speaker 1: do the honors? You want me to pour it?
- 4:36Speaker 2: Okay, over the equipment that we have.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Here, I trust you, all right, You're not the one
- 4:42Speaker 1: that has to do it, that's true. We'll give you
- 4:45Speaker 1: the honors of pouring it up. It looks kind of
- 4:47Speaker 1: like beer.
- 4:48Speaker 3: This is a This is a decent sized shot glass.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I know I picked the bigger one on purpose. Okay,
- 4:54Speaker 2: I'm not afraid. There we go. All right, you.
- 4:59Speaker 3: Should hold it up of your see. I filled it
- 5:02Speaker 3: mostly the way. That's probably more than an ounce or two.
- 5:05Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 5:06Speaker 1: But well, this is what I get for picking against
- 5:10Speaker 1: the Viking.
- 5:11Speaker 2: You should not do that. You should not do that.
- 5:13Speaker 2: I can't go back. I mean, I picked them.
- 5:15Speaker 1: I think I picked them to win eight games this year,
- 5:17Speaker 1: so this could be a long season if they continue
- 5:19Speaker 1: on the trend that they're on.
- 5:20Speaker 2: That's true.
- 5:21Speaker 3: We only we only spin it if we're wrong about it,
- 5:23Speaker 3: not if they lose. So right, well, all right, bottom's up.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Oh man? Well yeah, how was it?
- 5:33Speaker 3: Man?
- 5:34Speaker 2: That burns? Yeah? That burns. I'm so glad I didn't
- 5:38Speaker 2: have to do that. It's like it's sour, so it's like, yeah,
- 5:41Speaker 2: it just makes you.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Pucker your your eyes are water is pretty good. Right Now,
- 5:45Speaker 3: you're putting up a good fight. But man, that I
- 5:47Speaker 3: can tell.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal.
- 5:50Speaker 1: It was about thirty seconds worth of punishment, and now
- 5:54Speaker 1: we get to enjoy beer.
- 5:55Speaker 3: Now you don't have to wear socks on your hands
- 5:57Speaker 3: or do push ups every time you say vikings. So
- 6:00Speaker 3: that's why I said, of everything, you probably got off
- 6:03Speaker 3: pretty easy.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you will for taking it easy on me.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I appreciate it all right. Well, we do have some
- 6:10Speaker 1: beer here, yeah, we do, and I'm ready to get
- 6:13Speaker 1: into it because I need to get this taste out
- 6:14Speaker 1: of my mouth. We were approached by Jeff from Titanka
- 6:19Speaker 1: Brewing Company, Thanks Jeff, north Central Iowa, and he wanted
- 6:24Speaker 1: to send us some beer and start fighting it a
- 6:26Speaker 1: little bit.
- 6:26Speaker 2: I'm pushing through.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Sorry anyways, Jeff from Titanka, he offered.
- 6:31Speaker 1: To send us some beer. Yeah, And he didn't just
- 6:33Speaker 1: send us some beer. He sent us a whole lot
- 6:35Speaker 1: of beer, yeah, and two episodes. So we're hoping to
- 6:39Speaker 1: try two of Titanka's beers tonight and then we'll save
- 6:43Speaker 1: two episode yeah, in the next couple of weeks or so.
- 6:46Speaker 1: So thank you Jeff from Titanka Brewing. We're excited to
- 6:50Speaker 1: try these beers, and I'm excited to try this one.
- 6:54Speaker 1: We picked this Rooster Tails red Ale to start with. Yeah,
- 6:58Speaker 1: it looks the cann looks really good. All of their
- 7:01Speaker 1: their can art has that really cool, like fresh clean,
- 7:05Speaker 1: like simple modern look to it. Obviously, can art doesn't
- 7:09Speaker 1: really traditionally mean anything towards how the beer tastes. I
- 7:12Speaker 1: don't believe I've ever had any Tatanka Brewing beers.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Do you know if you have? I have not either.
- 7:18Speaker 1: In fact, I hadn't heard of them until you told
- 7:20Speaker 1: me that they reached out to us and wanted to
- 7:22Speaker 1: send us some beer.
- 7:22Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, songs there for my Well,
- 7:25Speaker 2: let's do it.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Absolutely So, I'm really excited to try these out, especially
- 7:28Speaker 3: since after this we have what three more kinds of
- 7:31Speaker 3: beers to try. We'll try to tonight this Rooster Tails
- 7:35Speaker 3: red Ale, and then about midway through the episode, we're
- 7:38Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna try this second of the two we're
- 7:40Speaker 3: gonna have tonight, which is there middle of nowhere any
- 7:43Speaker 3: I pa. So I'm really excited about both of them.
- 7:46Speaker 3: But we're starting off with the red Ale first. All right,
- 7:49Speaker 3: let's crack them open.
- 7:51Speaker 2: How's the apple cider vinegar.
- 7:54Speaker 1: So it's settled down a little bit, but the aftertaste
- 7:57Speaker 1: is still like stuck in the back of my throat.
- 8:00Speaker 1: So I'm ready for something else. I'm ready to wondering.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I'm wondering how they're gonna mix.
- 8:07Speaker 2: Do you have a bottle of water here? So I
- 8:08Speaker 2: might take a quick chug of my water?
- 8:14Speaker 3: All right, So first impressions pouring the beer. Oh man,
- 8:18Speaker 3: I hope this doesn't. It's definitely a red ale. It's
- 8:22Speaker 3: got a nice light red flavor or red color to it,
- 8:26Speaker 3: pretty good head retention. I haven't again a nice light
- 8:33Speaker 3: aroma as well, so not anything extreme. I feel like
- 8:37Speaker 3: the last handful of beers we've had on the on
- 8:39Speaker 3: the show have been solid beers beers again other than
- 8:43Speaker 3: the caramel apple fandango, So this kind of gives me
- 8:46Speaker 3: vibes that it's gonna be another one of those solid
- 8:48Speaker 3: beers beers. And yeah, I'm really impressed with the way
- 8:53Speaker 3: this is looking so far. I'm gonna let it die
- 8:56Speaker 3: down just a second because I do hard pores, so
- 8:59Speaker 3: it takes me a second.
- 9:00Speaker 1: It's not super transparent either, so that means it's got
- 9:04Speaker 1: a little little body to it.
- 9:05Speaker 3: I think it's so nice to grab a beer and
- 9:08Speaker 3: not have a sock on my hand like we.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Did last It was it was nice to not have
- 9:12Speaker 1: to crack that was so sock on your hand too.
- 9:15Speaker 2: I use two hands carefully.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Everything you said, I was about to say, other than
- 9:20Speaker 3: the heat, the cracking it open was the hardest part.
- 9:23Speaker 3: But no, I think it was the two hand poor.
- 9:24Speaker 3: I don't know either way. I think I'm ready to
- 9:26Speaker 3: get going.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Let's try the rooster the rooster tails rooster.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Tails red a school m Yes, that's wonderful. The multi
- 9:41Speaker 1: flavor is really strong, yeah, which I like. That's a
- 9:45Speaker 1: good characteristic of anything in that category. And it's the
- 9:49Speaker 1: perfect way to wash that taste out.
- 9:53Speaker 2: So yeah, I like it a lot.
- 9:54Speaker 3: I'm almost getting kind of like a tangy vibe from it,
- 9:57Speaker 3: Like it's definitely malty in the red ale, but it's
- 9:59Speaker 3: not it's not all the way into like a dark amber.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I don't know. I like it.
- 10:04Speaker 3: It's it's got a flavor I wasn't expecting and I'm
- 10:08Speaker 3: definitely here for it.
- 10:09Speaker 2: It's it's kind of a hangy.
- 10:12Speaker 3: I can't think of a better word to describe it
- 10:14Speaker 3: other than that the apple ciderwinger may be, you know,
- 10:17Speaker 3: messing with your taste buds a little bit, but yeah,
- 10:20Speaker 3: I like it. One one good sip in and I'm
- 10:23Speaker 3: I wish we had ten or twelve more of these things.
- 10:25Speaker 2: This is delicious.
- 10:26Speaker 1: They're super good and four and a half percent. So
- 10:28Speaker 1: oh yeah, pretty easy going. I probably wouldn't do dinner twelve,
- 10:32Speaker 1: but yeah we'd get fold before that. You could go
- 10:35Speaker 1: for a.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Few, yeah for sure, Yeah and be just fine.
- 10:38Speaker 3: So so far, Jeff Titanka, You're one for one on
- 10:42Speaker 3: delicious beers. I'm ready to try the other ones, honestly.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 10:46Speaker 1: All right, Well let's uh, let's talk football.
- 10:51Speaker 2: How what do you what do you mean?
- 10:52Speaker 3: Is there anything we even can talk about? Like we're
- 10:55Speaker 3: just Vikings fans. It's not very exciting, is it.
- 10:57Speaker 2: Well? The Vikings are four? No?
- 10:58Speaker 1: What?
- 11:01Speaker 2: Yes?
- 11:02Speaker 1: It was an odd game to watch. It was definitely
- 11:05Speaker 1: tale of two halves, absolutely the definition of tale of
- 11:08Speaker 1: two halves. But I feel like there were a couple
- 11:10Speaker 1: other games between college and NFL that had similar things happen,
- 11:14Speaker 1: not quite to the Vikings extreme. It got hairy there.
- 11:18Speaker 1: It definitely my heart was pumping towards the end. But
- 11:23Speaker 1: it's okay because the first part of the game, really
- 11:27Speaker 1: most of the first half up until that punt return
- 11:30Speaker 1: that was muffed and then returned recovered by the Packers.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Before then, the Vikings could do no wrong, absolutely no wrong.
- 11:40Speaker 2: There was a couple of calls.
- 11:41Speaker 3: I thought the refs overall had a pretty rough day,
- 11:44Speaker 3: because even in texting you, like there was even a
- 11:47Speaker 3: couple of times that you said, like, oh no, that
- 11:49Speaker 3: definitely should be called the Vikings way.
- 11:52Speaker 1: We were kind of arguing, yeah, yeah, like I saw
- 11:54Speaker 1: it one way, you saw it a different way.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like the refs definitely could have
- 11:58Speaker 3: done better. There were, I mean, most of the crazy,
- 12:01Speaker 3: blatant ones, like you can't really whint about the rest
- 12:04Speaker 3: too much, but even some of the calls that went
- 12:06Speaker 3: the Vikings way, I was thinking, like, man, I don't
- 12:09Speaker 3: I don't really know. I don't see that. I see
- 12:12Speaker 3: that going the other way. I think there was a touchdown. No,
- 12:15Speaker 3: it was the play that the Packer caught the ball,
- 12:18Speaker 3: had possession. His feet were in the end zone, so
- 12:22Speaker 3: he had possession of the football while he was located
- 12:25Speaker 3: in the end zone. Yes, the ball was technically not
- 12:28Speaker 3: in the end zone, but that shouldn't matter.
- 12:29Speaker 2: He was in the end zone.
- 12:31Speaker 3: They called it not a touchdown, and I thought that
- 12:34Speaker 3: should have been a touchdown for the Packers. I'm not
- 12:37Speaker 3: an expert, I'm not an NFL referee. Maybe that's just
- 12:40Speaker 3: me not knowing every part of the rule, but even now,
- 12:43Speaker 3: like I still kind of weird enough, I think that
- 12:45Speaker 3: should have been called it.
- 12:46Speaker 1: They also brought Gene Sterotoler on the broadcast a few times,
- 12:49Speaker 1: the rules analyst, and there was that play, and then
- 12:53Speaker 1: there was also the play I think it was in
- 12:55Speaker 1: the third or fourth quarter, and it was an interception
- 12:58Speaker 1: and the Packers defensive back looked like maybe he bobbled
- 13:03Speaker 1: it and maybe he didn't survive the ground, which if
- 13:06Speaker 1: you're a receiver, that's definitely I feel like had he
- 13:09Speaker 1: been a wide receiver and not a defensive back, they
- 13:12Speaker 1: would have looked at that more closely. But they didn't,
- 13:15Speaker 1: and they ruled it an interception even though it shouldn't
- 13:18Speaker 1: have been. And Gene's territory even said that's not an interception.
- 13:21Speaker 3: That was another one, and granted that was one that
- 13:23Speaker 3: went against the Vikings. So of course we're going to
- 13:25Speaker 3: sound like homers or whatever which we are. We're, you know,
- 13:29Speaker 3: pure blood Homers for the Vikings, there's no question about it,
- 13:33Speaker 3: but that one specifically, still I can't. I would need
- 13:36Speaker 3: a very slow and detailed explanation, as if I'm a
- 13:39Speaker 3: five year old for me to try to understand why
- 13:42Speaker 3: that was actually an interception, because he was definitely bobbling it.
- 13:46Speaker 3: I've been on this podcast many times and even still now,
- 13:50Speaker 3: I'll definitely say the referees more often than not, overall
- 13:55Speaker 3: do a fantastic job. And I know that's most people
- 13:58Speaker 3: are like, No, riffs are terrible. I don't know what
- 14:00Speaker 3: they're seeing. Most of the time, they make the right
- 14:03Speaker 3: call in real time, and even like in real time
- 14:06Speaker 3: it might seem plain his day to go the other way,
- 14:09Speaker 3: but then you see it in slow motion, it's like, oh, yeah,
- 14:11Speaker 3: I guess his toe was barely just out of bounds
- 14:14Speaker 3: or something like that. And these refs most of the
- 14:17Speaker 3: time get the call right right away. So I genuinely
- 14:22Speaker 3: usually believe in the refs. That game could have been
- 14:24Speaker 3: called a little bit differently. However, I don't think the
- 14:27Speaker 3: refs gave the comeback to the Packers other than that interception,
- 14:33Speaker 3: which could have been huge I think the Packers really
- 14:36Speaker 3: did figure stuff out, and they did turn it around,
- 14:39Speaker 3: and they made it a heck of a game.
- 14:40Speaker 2: They sure did. Yeah, And I don't know. It's hard
- 14:44Speaker 2: for me.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It's hard to fault the refs because the game happened
- 14:48Speaker 1: so quickly and you got a lot of talented players
- 14:51Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball in that game.
- 14:53Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 14:54Speaker 1: There were definitely a lot of questionable things. I question
- 15:00Speaker 1: what's reviewable and what's not, you know. I think that's
- 15:03Speaker 1: maybe something that the league has to look into. And
- 15:07Speaker 1: I almost wonder if you make everything reviewable.
- 15:10Speaker 3: Well, I think that's kind of what they tried to
- 15:12Speaker 3: do a couple of years ago when they made past
- 15:15Speaker 3: interference calls reviewable. But that was that was a mess
- 15:18Speaker 3: and they never figured that out. But then out of
- 15:20Speaker 3: that came the Eye and the Sky, which I feel
- 15:24Speaker 3: like that has made things better. I don't know a
- 15:26Speaker 3: little bit. I think they genuinely tried to do the
- 15:30Speaker 3: right thing, and they try to do their best to
- 15:33Speaker 3: be able to make the correct calls, even if they
- 15:35Speaker 3: have to go to some eye in the sky in
- 15:36Speaker 3: New York.
- 15:37Speaker 1: I think the eye on this guy has made things
- 15:39Speaker 1: more efficient so it's not like five minutes and both
- 15:43Speaker 1: teams are like, oh, I'm not even sweating anymore, Like,
- 15:46Speaker 1: are we going to continue playing football?
- 15:47Speaker 2: What's going on? There's one guy looking in this thing.
- 15:50Speaker 1: You know that it's sped things up so that they
- 15:53Speaker 1: can get back to playing the game regardless of what
- 15:56Speaker 1: the call is. But it's still not perfect. And I
- 16:00Speaker 1: think technology has advanced so much. It's twenty twenty four
- 16:04Speaker 1: for Pete's sake. Yeah, I feel like they could put
- 16:07Speaker 1: stuff in the ball. They could put a chip in
- 16:09Speaker 1: the ball, they could, you know, put cameras in a
- 16:13Speaker 1: million different places and have eyes everywhere. That would make
- 16:16Speaker 1: it like without a doubt, this is a catch or
- 16:20Speaker 1: it's not. This is a first down, or it's not,
- 16:22Speaker 1: this is a touchdown or it's not.
- 16:24Speaker 2: Absolutely so.
- 16:26Speaker 3: And I think the league has always aired on the
- 16:29Speaker 3: side of making sure it's a human making these calls, because,
- 16:36Speaker 3: like I just spent a few minutes saying, the refs
- 16:38Speaker 3: more often than not make the right call, or at
- 16:40Speaker 3: least close enough to the right call, And I think
- 16:43Speaker 3: you do need to have that human element. It can't
- 16:45Speaker 3: just be all And I'm not saying this is what
- 16:47Speaker 3: you're advocating for it can't just be a digitized everything
- 16:50Speaker 3: with only cameras and AI and computer chips and trackers
- 16:54Speaker 3: just making every call. There's got to be a human
- 16:57Speaker 3: element somewhere. But I think that eye in the sky
- 17:00Speaker 3: thing kind of because for years we would say stuff
- 17:03Speaker 3: like watching it on TV, like how can we see
- 17:05Speaker 3: it playing as day with the NBC broadcast or whatever,
- 17:08Speaker 3: But the refs are still making the opposite call. And
- 17:11Speaker 3: I think the eye in the sky type deal is
- 17:13Speaker 3: one thing they did to try to say, you know what,
- 17:16Speaker 3: you're right, if you can see it on TV, it
- 17:18Speaker 3: should be a common sense thing.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Yep.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Another thing you're seeing the last handful of years those
- 17:23Speaker 3: extra pylons, the like end zone type pylons. You're seeing
- 17:26Speaker 3: that like the first down break, and that's huge. That's
- 17:29Speaker 3: super cool one because like a lot of times this TV,
- 17:32Speaker 3: can you know we actually see the broadcasts of that
- 17:34Speaker 3: camera two, Like that's just another tool to help referees.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Like for years I remember thinking, why couldn't they put
- 17:40Speaker 3: two cameras down the goal line just to be able
- 17:43Speaker 3: to see if the ball broke the plane? And they
- 17:45Speaker 3: kind of have that now, which is cool. So overall
- 17:47Speaker 3: I think referees are doing good things to make the
- 17:52Speaker 3: game better. I think the game this weekend was a
- 17:55Speaker 3: little rough for the referees. Fortunately, we're saying that after
- 18:00Speaker 3: Vikings win, and we're not blaming the refs for blowing
- 18:04Speaker 3: a Vikings win.
- 18:05Speaker 1: So would you say that the officiating was a thorn
- 18:10Speaker 1: for you? If we're going to transition into roses and
- 18:12Speaker 1: thorns here for the game, it definitely could be. I
- 18:15Speaker 1: had written down a thorn, but I think it was
- 18:16Speaker 1: the obvious thorn, which will absolutely be talking about. But yeah,
- 18:21Speaker 1: I mean just the referees. They're still human. Like I said,
- 18:24Speaker 1: we want to keep that human element in the game,
- 18:26Speaker 1: but humans aren't perfect, so you're still going to see
- 18:28Speaker 1: the occasional rough day. I mean, even.
- 18:31Speaker 3: Sam Darnold will probably have a knock on wood rough
- 18:34Speaker 3: day at some point this season, but he hasn't.
- 18:37Speaker 2: But yeah, the refs are probably one of my bigger thorns.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Well, I would say, and you've got it here on
- 18:43Speaker 1: our notes. The second half collapse was rough, but I'll
- 18:48Speaker 1: get a little more specific with mine, and I think
- 18:51Speaker 1: it was it was the play calling. I think, both
- 18:55Speaker 1: offensively and defensively, the play calling got really soft, especially
- 18:59Speaker 1: in the third quarter when they kind of seemed like
- 19:02Speaker 1: they put things on cruise control. And I don't know
- 19:05Speaker 1: if that's Kevin O'Connell leading that. I don't know if
- 19:07Speaker 1: Flores just kind of did his own thing on the
- 19:09Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball and was like, Yeah, we're
- 19:11Speaker 1: up by a lot, let's just play a shell coverage
- 19:14Speaker 1: and see what happens. Let the ball come to us
- 19:16Speaker 1: kind of thing. But all of a sudden, the Packers
- 19:19Speaker 1: were moving the ball and the Vikings couldn't do anything.
- 19:22Speaker 1: It were it was on the offensive side of the ball.
- 19:25Speaker 1: It was I think it was like something like punt turnover. Punt, Yeah,
- 19:30Speaker 1: punt turnover or something like that.
- 19:32Speaker 3: Which we've seen a couple of times already this season,
- 19:36Speaker 3: like a hot start and then a slump yep, and
- 19:39Speaker 3: then usually they you know, right the ship a little
- 19:42Speaker 3: bit towards the end of the game. But yeah, it's
- 19:44Speaker 3: not the first time we've seen that.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Yeah, And to drill down even more specifically into that
- 19:49Speaker 1: the defense I think is fine. I do think Brian
- 19:52Speaker 1: Flores just kind of laid back a little bit knowing
- 19:56Speaker 1: that there's what a lot of left thirteen games left
- 20:02Speaker 1: in the season, knowing that like, Okay, I don't have to,
- 20:06Speaker 1: you know, push these guys to the limit on every play.
- 20:08Speaker 1: I don't have to call all these exotic blitzes and
- 20:10Speaker 1: risk injury. We can we can take a little bit
- 20:14Speaker 1: of a step back. And I'm not justifying it necessarily,
- 20:17Speaker 1: but I'm saying, like, maybe that was the game plan. Sure,
- 20:20Speaker 1: but on the offensive side of the ball, to nitpick
- 20:23Speaker 1: a little bit. There were obvious communication issues between Kevin
- 20:28Speaker 1: O'Connell and Sam Darnold.
- 20:29Speaker 2: There were multiple delay of games. There were multiple plays.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Where Sam just looked like a deer in the headlights
- 20:36Speaker 1: and just chucked it into the dirt right away. And
- 20:39Speaker 1: we've seen this happen now over the course of the
- 20:41Speaker 1: last several games. This is not the first time it's happened.
- 20:45Speaker 1: And so for me, that's the specific thorn that they've
- 20:48Speaker 1: got to figure out if they want to beat the
- 20:51Speaker 1: best teams in the league and if they want to
- 20:54Speaker 1: make a deep run in the playoffs, because you can't
- 20:56Speaker 1: have those moments where you have a delay of game,
- 21:00Speaker 1: because coach and quarterback ground on the same page. You
- 21:02Speaker 1: can't have those Oh, I just dumped it down because
- 21:06Speaker 1: we didn't read the defense right and they came through
- 21:09Speaker 1: the middle, and I know, I had no time to
- 21:11Speaker 1: do anything right, Like, you've got to fix those things
- 21:15Speaker 1: if you're going to be a playoff caliber team.
- 21:17Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah.
- 21:19Speaker 3: They were like two straight plays, or at least felt
- 21:22Speaker 3: like two straight plays where one was obviously supposed to
- 21:25Speaker 3: be a run up the middle, and or it was
- 21:28Speaker 3: either supposed to be a run up the middle, you
- 21:31Speaker 3: know where Sam Donald just took the snap, turn around
- 21:33Speaker 3: and handled the ball off, or it was supposed to
- 21:35Speaker 3: be like a run kind of sweep, you know, outside
- 21:38Speaker 3: run to the right. The problem is Sam Donald played
- 21:42Speaker 3: the run up the middle, turn around, tried to hand
- 21:44Speaker 3: the ball off, whereas Aaron Jones played the run to
- 21:48Speaker 3: the right and he went wide and within half a second,
- 21:51Speaker 3: you just knew the second Sam Donald turned around and
- 21:53Speaker 3: tried to hand the ball, he knew like, oh, broken play.
- 21:56Speaker 3: And he just kind of tried to not lose as
- 21:59Speaker 3: many yards he could and just got down, which in
- 22:03Speaker 3: a panic situation that's not the worst thing to do,
- 22:07Speaker 3: because he could have like tried to like dance.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Around and then do a Nick Mullins and throw it to.
- 22:12Speaker 3: Throw hero ball, or even get injured because the protection
- 22:16Speaker 3: is not where it should be on the desperation thing
- 22:18Speaker 3: he was doing. And then I think it was either
- 22:20Speaker 3: like the next play after or soon after, there was
- 22:23Speaker 3: another one where as soon as the ball was snapped,
- 22:26Speaker 3: Sam must have had a quick read and either he
- 22:28Speaker 3: didn't know the route tree the receiver's route running well
- 22:33Speaker 3: enough on that play, or assumed something that was wrong,
- 22:36Speaker 3: or the receiver that was supposed to run a certain
- 22:38Speaker 3: route ran a different one and the whole play was
- 22:41Speaker 3: up and same thing. It was a broken play. It
- 22:43Speaker 3: just looked like he was giving up on it, so
- 22:45Speaker 3: he threw it right in the dirt, which again could
- 22:48Speaker 3: have been way worse. He could have tried to Michael
- 22:50Speaker 3: Vikett and run around and play hero ball and try
- 22:53Speaker 3: to throw it into one tight are and who knows, interception,
- 22:58Speaker 3: some kind of a fumble injury, you know, like at
- 23:01Speaker 3: least the quick like, oh crap, we just need to
- 23:04Speaker 3: mitigate all losses here and try again the next play.
- 23:08Speaker 3: But it's that's communication.
- 23:10Speaker 1: We did see some good things out of Sam Darnold.
- 23:13Speaker 1: He can run the football.
- 23:14Speaker 2: We saw that. I think he got at.
- 23:16Speaker 1: Least one first down with his feet, which was awesome,
- 23:19Speaker 1: to see and he's not afraid to just tuck it
- 23:23Speaker 1: and run and see what he can get, which is awesome.
- 23:26Speaker 1: We also saw something we haven't seen in the first
- 23:30Speaker 1: three games of the season in this fourth game against
- 23:33Speaker 1: the Packers, where he would throw it away rather than
- 23:37Speaker 1: trying to force it and throw an interception.
- 23:39Speaker 2: We still saw that. We still saw him try to
- 23:42Speaker 2: force it.
- 23:42Speaker 1: There was one that was nearly picked off, and he
- 23:46Speaker 1: was fortunate that it wasn't. But I think he's starting
- 23:50Speaker 1: to figure it out and he's starting to realize, Okay,
- 23:53Speaker 1: when the play's broken, when it's about to be a
- 23:57Speaker 1: coverage sack down field, got to throw it out of bounds, yep,
- 24:01Speaker 1: and live to fight another down because I know my
- 24:03Speaker 1: head coach, he's going to put the right play in
- 24:06Speaker 1: my ear and we're going to keep moving the ball.
- 24:09Speaker 2: And they've proven that as a team.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because I texted you at one point
- 24:13Speaker 3: it was early on, and I said, say, I'm quote
- 24:15Speaker 3: Michael Vick unquote Darnold because he did he ran for
- 24:19Speaker 3: a first down or something like that.
- 24:21Speaker 2: But I think that the idea that and you hate
- 24:23Speaker 2: to see it.
- 24:23Speaker 3: You hate to see a quick throwaway or a broken
- 24:27Speaker 3: play that just feels like a total loss opportunity. But
- 24:32Speaker 3: that I'm we're not on the team. We don't know
- 24:35Speaker 3: their conversations. That could be coaching, That could be better communication,
- 24:39Speaker 3: because maybe that is Koc saying, hey, you know what,
- 24:43Speaker 3: I don't care if it's third and fifteen, if you know,
- 24:47Speaker 3: if the play happens a certain way, if things break
- 24:49Speaker 3: down a certain way, just get out of it. Because
- 24:51Speaker 3: it's much better to either try to convert a fourth
- 24:54Speaker 3: and fifteen or punt it away than it is to
- 24:56Speaker 3: throw an interception or get injured because nobody knows what
- 25:00Speaker 3: they're doing and somebody gets blasted, you know, So that
- 25:03Speaker 3: that very well could be a situation where Kos's just saying, hey,
- 25:06Speaker 3: I'm teaching you, just do this. If it's breaking up,
- 25:10Speaker 3: just live to see another play. Total guess maybe it is.
- 25:13Speaker 3: Maybe Kaos is just sitting there like you, what are
- 25:16Speaker 3: you doing?
- 25:17Speaker 2: Well, there was definitely a moment and I texted you this.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell looked frustrated, and I think it might have
- 25:24Speaker 1: been one of those delayed games or something where he's
- 25:26Speaker 1: just like we had it. It was right there, and
- 25:31Speaker 1: I don't know there's definitely some stuff that needs to
- 25:35Speaker 1: be worked out. I think Kevin O'Connell and Sam Darnold
- 25:38Speaker 1: have a really good working relationship already.
- 25:40Speaker 2: I don't think they would be four and oh.
- 25:42Speaker 1: If it was this like cold shoulder Mike Zimmer Kirk
- 25:45Speaker 1: Cousins type of relationship where they don't even talk to
- 25:48Speaker 1: each other. I don't think that would be possible with
- 25:51Speaker 1: a four and oh start. I think they've got a
- 25:53Speaker 1: great relationship and I think they will figure it out,
- 25:56Speaker 1: and I think they'll continue to.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Gel and we won't see these issues. That's my prediction.
- 26:01Speaker 1: We won't see these issues in the middle and the
- 26:04Speaker 1: later part of the season.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 26:05Speaker 3: Every year we say teams in week fifteen are not
- 26:09Speaker 3: the same team they were in week two. And that's
- 26:12Speaker 3: why these guys mesh and gel and the whole team
- 26:15Speaker 3: just figures out a little bit more every day how
- 26:18Speaker 3: to play with each other. And that is the sign
- 26:22Speaker 3: of a good team. If they get better, that means
- 26:24Speaker 3: the right things are happening, the right conversations are happening,
- 26:27Speaker 3: people are listening and learning, and.
- 26:30Speaker 2: It's a good thing.
- 26:32Speaker 3: But all that to say, I feel like we've complained enough.
- 26:37Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to transition to the positive.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Now we've allowed these thorns to prick us in the
- 26:42Speaker 1: side a little too much.
- 26:43Speaker 3: But the best part, maybe, and this isn't my rose
- 26:45Speaker 3: but it could be, is that there's a lot to
- 26:48Speaker 3: complain about. But they're four and zero and nothing that
- 26:52Speaker 3: we're complaining about is anything that is impossible to overcome.
- 26:57Speaker 3: It's not like we're sitting here saying, well, yeah we won,
- 27:00Speaker 3: but our starting quarterback just blue as Achilles. So now
- 27:03Speaker 3: we're on Nick Mullins for the rest of it. Like
- 27:06Speaker 3: everything that we're complaining about can be fixed with coaching,
- 27:10Speaker 3: or fixed with a few conversations, or.
- 27:14Speaker 1: With like TJ. Howkinson coming back from injury. Exactly which
- 27:18Speaker 1: could happen this week, I think, and we kind of
- 27:20Speaker 1: saw because I said a few weeks ago, like, there
- 27:22Speaker 1: is the possibility. I'm not predicting this, but there's a
- 27:25Speaker 1: possibility where I don't care who it is, if it's
- 27:27Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, if you add something different into
- 27:30Speaker 1: a team that's already working.
- 27:31Speaker 3: Well, could kind of mess up the mojo. But we
- 27:35Speaker 3: just saw Jordan Addison come back after most of the
- 27:38Speaker 3: season being gone. He was he played the first what
- 27:41Speaker 3: half of the Giants game. Essentially he's been out all season.
- 27:44Speaker 3: He came back and it was only good for the team.
- 27:47Speaker 3: I mean he had a rushing and receiving touchdown like
- 27:49Speaker 3: and looked good. He was a positive injection for the team,
- 27:53Speaker 3: which makes me think all the more that once TJ.
- 27:56Speaker 3: Hockkinson comes back, and at this point, I don't even
- 27:58Speaker 3: care when he comes back to rush him. No, let
- 28:01Speaker 3: him be one hundred percent and not a second before that,
- 28:05Speaker 3: even if that was to say like for some crazy
- 28:07Speaker 3: reason he misses the whole season, Like things are working okay.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Josh Oliver got his fifth receiving touchdown of his career
- 28:14Speaker 3: just this past week, like there are options at tight end.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Johnny Munk got a touchdown too, So it's like an
- 28:21Speaker 1: OPRAH episode.
- 28:22Speaker 2: You get a touchdown and you get a touchdown. Act.
- 28:25Speaker 3: But all that to say, like this this team, the
- 28:28Speaker 3: bad stuff, you could see a route to where it's
- 28:31Speaker 3: easily or you know, it's workable, it's fixable. They can
- 28:35Speaker 3: improve the good stuff. Obviously it's already working. We're not
- 28:39Speaker 3: seeing they're not four and oh because of ten Lucky
- 28:42Speaker 3: plays a game. They're actually good, Like Sam Darnold doesn't
- 28:46Speaker 3: just Nick mullinsing it down the field and getting lucky
- 28:49Speaker 3: every throw. You could argue that one touchdown to Justin
- 28:53Speaker 3: Jefferson was kind of lucky because it just dropped in
- 28:56Speaker 3: his bread basket. But that's also a ballsy play. Throw
- 29:00Speaker 3: that ball and for JJ just took sorry Justin Jefferson,
- 29:03Speaker 3: just to like let it come to him and then
- 29:05Speaker 3: have the muscle to like complete the catch. That's not
- 29:09Speaker 3: a luck play, that's a ballsy play. That that's why
- 29:13Speaker 3: I feel so good about this team.
- 29:14Speaker 1: That play in particular impressed me because Justin Jefferson was
- 29:18Speaker 1: able to corral the ball up against his chest and
- 29:22Speaker 1: then just manhandle I don't even know who the defender was,
- 29:26Speaker 1: it doesn't matter matter. He made a fool of the
- 29:28Speaker 1: guy because he just pushed him out of the way
- 29:30Speaker 1: and said get out of here.
- 29:32Speaker 3: And that was awesome and he knew it too, because
- 29:34Speaker 3: oh yeah, Jets was fired up after that, like obviously
- 29:37Speaker 3: you just scored an NFL touchdown.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Who wouldn't be fired up? But he was, like he
- 29:41Speaker 2: hit I think I saw it.
- 29:42Speaker 3: I wish I would have remembered who tweeted it, but
- 29:45Speaker 3: they tweeted the video of the catch and then the gritty,
- 29:48Speaker 3: and they said that gritty was personal, like, yeah, he
- 29:51Speaker 3: did that gritty with some authority, like it's not just
- 29:56Speaker 3: a quick little like oh yeah, we're all having fun
- 29:58Speaker 3: and dance around, like he affected that gritty right there.
- 30:02Speaker 2: So we've I think we've been circling around this. But
- 30:04Speaker 2: what's your rose? All right?
- 30:05Speaker 3: Officially, my rose, and I guess I've kind of said
- 30:08Speaker 3: it already, is that this team is good. They they've shown.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Their last three wins are against previous playoff teams and
- 30:17Speaker 3: teams that aren't looking like garbage this year. You know,
- 30:19Speaker 3: they could be looking better, but they're not looking like garbage.
- 30:22Speaker 3: They can they can go against anybody in the league,
- 30:26Speaker 3: and they can beat anybody in the league. And as
- 30:29Speaker 3: long as they don't have another second half, you know,
- 30:31Speaker 3: collapse like they did against the Packers, they should beat everybody. Yeah, agreed,
- 30:37Speaker 3: And they've proven it. So that's that's definitely my rose.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say the rose for me was that
- 30:45Speaker 1: first half.
- 30:45Speaker 2: And that's it's the obvious answer. It's the gimme answer.
- 30:49Speaker 1: But I don't you don't get much better, Like I
- 30:53Speaker 1: found myself. I was sitting on my couch in the basement,
- 30:56Speaker 1: just like I love this team. This team is so
- 30:59Speaker 1: much fun to watch. I said that out loud. I'm
- 31:01Speaker 1: just like, I'm down here by myself, just like hooting
- 31:04Speaker 1: and hollering every time something good happens. And yeah, it
- 31:08Speaker 1: was so much fun to watch. It was so much
- 31:10Speaker 1: fun to watch Sam Darnold just dominate find the open guy.
- 31:14Speaker 2: It was fun to watch the.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Defense take the ball away and make fools of the
- 31:19Speaker 1: Packers offense, which, by the way, I would like to
- 31:22Speaker 1: point out too, because we didn't really talk about it,
- 31:24Speaker 1: but everybody was talking about Jordan Love and how he
- 31:28Speaker 1: wasn't one hundred percent. It was pretty clear and obvious
- 31:30Speaker 1: to me in the first half that he was struggling. Yeah,
- 31:34Speaker 1: but man, once he got warmed up, that dude bawled out.
- 31:38Speaker 1: They figured a heck of a game.
- 31:39Speaker 3: Yeah, they figured something out that worked for the whole
- 31:42Speaker 3: Packers team. I mean, we're not delirious they I think
- 31:46Speaker 3: I even said if the Vikings, if the football games
- 31:49Speaker 3: were sixty two minutes long, the Vikings might have lost
- 31:52Speaker 3: that game. Yeah, the Packers are a good team. But
- 31:56Speaker 3: I mean, not to rain on the first part of
- 31:59Speaker 3: your point. Yeah, Packers are good Jordan Love. For a while,
- 32:02Speaker 3: I was like, man, they need to take him out.
- 32:04Speaker 2: He doesn't.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking that, thinking like, man, they should
- 32:08Speaker 1: just put Malik Willis back in and roll with that,
- 32:10Speaker 1: because that seemed to work better in the two games
- 32:12Speaker 1: that he started for them.
- 32:15Speaker 2: But I don't know. That first half was so much
- 32:17Speaker 2: fun to watch.
- 32:18Speaker 1: It was so fun that I kind of like distracted myself. I,
- 32:22Speaker 1: you know, as a teacher, started grading some stuff while
- 32:24Speaker 1: I was watching, and I wasn't like fully invested anymore.
- 32:27Speaker 2: So I'm like, no, we're up twenty eight nothing. Not
- 32:29Speaker 2: a true fanny. I'm a true fan. I'm sorry I
- 32:32Speaker 2: should fan, and I don't mean to.
- 32:34Speaker 1: I just took a shot of apple cider vinegar because
- 32:37Speaker 1: because you were wrong, I was wrong.
- 32:39Speaker 2: True fans don't do that. That's true. That's true.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Anyways, it was a fun game to watch. I'm glad
- 32:45Speaker 1: they won. It was definitely stressful at the end. You
- 32:50Speaker 1: you pointed out something to me, and this could maybe
- 32:52Speaker 1: be how we kind.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Of wrap up.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was quoted this week saying the Vikings will
- 32:59Speaker 1: have to learn how to play from behind if they're
- 33:02Speaker 1: going to be successful this year, and that's an interesting
- 33:04Speaker 1: point because the Vikings have only played from behind for
- 33:07Speaker 1: like four minutes or something, three.
- 33:09Speaker 2: Something, and that was like the first the first quarter
- 33:13Speaker 2: of the Giants game. Yeah, they were up three to nothing.
- 33:15Speaker 1: And then from then on, the Vikings have led in
- 33:19Speaker 1: every minute of every game that they've played, or.
- 33:21Speaker 3: At least not trailed because you know, yeah, could zero
- 33:24Speaker 3: zero time. But yeah, it's crazy, yeah, and that's that's
- 33:29Speaker 3: the mark of a good team. But you would like
- 33:31Speaker 3: to see that well roundedness to know, like, oh crap,
- 33:35Speaker 3: if the other team does get up to two touchdowns,
- 33:38Speaker 3: to know like, all right, they're capable of turning this
- 33:41Speaker 3: around and ultimately winning the game. I will say, and
- 33:45Speaker 3: probably my last point of the Packer game. I loved
- 33:48Speaker 3: when everybody in the world who is watching that game
- 33:52Speaker 3: expected the Vikings late in the game, in the middle
- 33:56Speaker 3: of this desperation thing, trying to close the game out
- 33:58Speaker 3: and seal the victory.
- 34:00Speaker 2: They had a.
- 34:00Speaker 3: Drive where they probably old school should have just tried
- 34:05Speaker 3: to run off as much clock as possible, and they
- 34:08Speaker 3: made They passed like five straight times, one of them
- 34:10Speaker 3: being a seventeen yard completion to Justin Jefferson, which because
- 34:15Speaker 3: it worked, kind of jacks you up, and it makes
- 34:17Speaker 3: you like love this team and love KOC. But it
- 34:21Speaker 3: also shows that they've got he's got trust in Sam
- 34:24Speaker 3: Darnold and Jefferson and all the players on that team
- 34:27Speaker 3: to be able to still use the passing game to
- 34:31Speaker 3: ice I guess the other team out. Yeah, that was
- 34:33Speaker 3: a lot of fun and that was probably the drive
- 34:35Speaker 3: of the game. Honestly, was that late fourth quarter drive
- 34:39Speaker 3: where they should have run the ball but they didn't.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Well. And I think.
- 34:45Speaker 1: The way I'll kind of wrap this up is Kevin O'Connell.
- 34:48Speaker 1: I think either on Monday or today. No, Today's Monday,
- 34:51Speaker 1: Today's Monday. Today is a really long day.
- 34:53Speaker 2: I felt like two days.
- 34:56Speaker 1: Either in his post game presser or today then, because
- 34:59Speaker 1: he has a press conference every Monday too, he was
- 35:02Speaker 1: quoted saying something along the lines of this we this
- 35:04Speaker 1: win means absolutely nothing. We got to get back to work.
- 35:07Speaker 1: We've got to fix the things that we've got to fix.
- 35:10Speaker 1: And I think he's fully aware of the things that
- 35:12Speaker 1: they need to fix, and I'm confident that he will
- 35:16Speaker 1: fix those things and that he will continue to kind
- 35:20Speaker 1: of sharpen both ends of the sword and this this
- 35:23Speaker 1: Vikings team could be really dangerous down the stretch.
- 35:26Speaker 2: If they stay healthy, it's gonna be fun to watch.
- 35:28Speaker 3: It's kind of scary to think. I need to knock
- 35:30Speaker 3: on wood for that one. Yeah, it's scary to think
- 35:33Speaker 3: because the running joke on Paul Allen's radio show for years,
- 35:38Speaker 3: you know, leading up to the first game of the
- 35:40Speaker 3: season for the Vikings every year has been like I'm
- 35:42Speaker 3: looking at the schedule and I can't see the first loss.
- 35:45Speaker 3: I can't find it anywhere. And I mean, we could
- 35:47Speaker 3: play that game now. When is the first Vikings loss?
- 35:50Speaker 3: Because they're not going undefeated probably, but like I don't know,
- 35:54Speaker 3: they might go nine or ten games before they lose, like,
- 35:56Speaker 3: or they could lose in London next week, you know,
- 35:58Speaker 3: you never know.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Well, before we get to that game, we should maybe
- 36:02Speaker 1: finish this beer, yeah, and give our kind of final
- 36:05Speaker 1: thoughts on it, and then let's crack this other one
- 36:07Speaker 1: open and pour that up.
- 36:08Speaker 3: You're the Amber guy, You're the red guy. This is
- 36:11Speaker 3: your category of choice. What are what are your full
- 36:14Speaker 3: thoughts after one full rooster tails red Ale?
- 36:18Speaker 1: Well, I just finished it and I finished it before you,
- 36:22Speaker 1: and I think that means that I like it a lot.
- 36:24Speaker 2: It was really good.
- 36:25Speaker 3: I also talk a lot, so I give you plenty
- 36:28Speaker 3: of opportunity to drink because I just like to hear
- 36:30Speaker 3: my own voice every once in a while.
- 36:32Speaker 1: No, I like this beer a lot. It's it's balanced.
- 36:36Speaker 1: My first like right off the top was maltiness, Like
- 36:41Speaker 1: I could just taste the maltiness, and perhaps that was
- 36:43Speaker 1: the contrast of the apple cider. It maybe still coming
- 36:47Speaker 1: off of that, but I don't know. I still taste
- 36:50Speaker 1: the maltiness, it's still there, but I taste the kind
- 36:53Speaker 1: of the tanginess a little bit, kind of more of
- 36:55Speaker 1: like a like an ale, which makes sense because it's
- 36:59Speaker 1: a red ale. But all in all, it's very easy drinking,
- 37:04Speaker 1: very smooth.
- 37:06Speaker 2: It's delightful. Yeah, I would have it again.
- 37:08Speaker 3: Everything you just said, I'll also add it's got like
- 37:12Speaker 3: really good flavor. But for four and a half percent,
- 37:15Speaker 3: it's got more flavor than you would expect.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Usually I picture a.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Four and a half percenter, and those are your you know,
- 37:21Speaker 3: your cores lights, your your bush lights, your bud lights.
- 37:26Speaker 3: This red Ale it's got a full flavor to it.
- 37:29Speaker 3: It's not a light beer in any way, and maybe
- 37:32Speaker 3: it's a plus. I usually knock down beers that are
- 37:35Speaker 3: that lower content. But if you are having a night
- 37:38Speaker 3: where you want to have a couple, but you don't
- 37:39Speaker 3: want to wake up and feel like garbage the next day,
- 37:42Speaker 3: this is a good option, especially in the fall with
- 37:44Speaker 3: that red amber.
- 37:45Speaker 1: Be a great one to have, like around a fire,
- 37:48Speaker 1: or like you're just sitting in the backyard watching the sunset,
- 37:52Speaker 1: the leaves are falling.
- 37:53Speaker 3: It's a good painted. Better keep going. Is there a
- 37:57Speaker 3: babbling creek?
- 37:59Speaker 2: Be a little babbling brook in the background.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Is it like a little foggy you wear a bit
- 38:04Speaker 1: from that, you're wearing your flannels.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Somebody wished out a guitar.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, well that's a good beer at four
- 38:13Speaker 1: and a half percent.
- 38:14Speaker 2: Did you see what this other one is?
- 38:16Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's gonna bounce it out pretty good. So
- 38:18Speaker 3: that that was the Rooster Tails red Ale. It gets
- 38:21Speaker 3: the skull Hop stamp of approval. Thank you Titanka for
- 38:24Speaker 3: providing this one. Genuinely, it's a it's a really good beer,
- 38:30Speaker 3: and so far one for one. Like I said, and
- 38:33Speaker 3: I promise if it was garbage, I would I would
- 38:35Speaker 3: say it's not the greatest.
- 38:37Speaker 1: But it is good. I can't say it's not great
- 38:38Speaker 1: because it is. Thank you, and we appreciate the free beer,
- 38:41Speaker 1: so thank you again. Jeff from Titanka. All right, well
- 38:44Speaker 1: we've got another one here middle of nowhere, New England,
- 38:48Speaker 1: i PA.
- 38:49Speaker 3: Which is kind of funny because you could argue that
- 38:51Speaker 3: Titanka is in the middle of nowhere.
- 38:53Speaker 2: It kind of is.
- 38:54Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't know where it was and we we
- 38:57Speaker 1: looked it up. It's north central Iowa, west of clear Lake,
- 39:01Speaker 1: a little bit immediately south of blue Earth, Minnesota, which
- 39:06Speaker 1: is where the Jolly Green Giant green Bean factory is.
- 39:10Speaker 1: In fact, if you're driving on I ninety, you'll come.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Across blue Earth.
- 39:14Speaker 1: And actually this is embarrassing because I don't remember their name,
- 39:18Speaker 1: but we met them. We met one of the guys
- 39:21Speaker 1: from the podcast. Oh no, we should look that up
- 39:24Speaker 1: really quick.
- 39:25Speaker 2: I'm going to look it up. We met him.
- 39:27Speaker 1: We met him in Cedar Rapids at Lionbridge Brewery. I
- 39:31Speaker 1: remember this now Now Golf podcast.
- 39:34Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're gonna mention them once we find them.
- 39:37Speaker 1: But the guy was from blue Earth and I was like, hey,
- 39:40Speaker 1: I know where blue Earth is, So there you go.
- 39:45Speaker 2: Public golf course, public course, golf public of course, golf.
- 39:50Speaker 2: That is it right there?
- 39:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I was wearing that shirt that you're wearing tonight,
- 39:54Speaker 1: and he thought I was on the skull line. He's
- 39:56Speaker 1: always on the drum line for the for the like. No,
- 40:01Speaker 1: actually we're a podcast and we ended up talking and
- 40:04Speaker 1: we gave his son one of our stickers.
- 40:06Speaker 2: Ye, so there you go.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, probably not too far from Blue Earth. Is
- 40:12Speaker 1: Titanka Brewery.
- 40:13Speaker 2: Nice?
- 40:14Speaker 1: Titanka is in Iowa. It is an Iowa brewery.
- 40:17Speaker 3: Yes, so, and I really hope I usually uh this
- 40:21Speaker 3: says Brudon packed in Titanka, Iowa.
- 40:23Speaker 2: Okay. I just you know.
- 40:25Speaker 3: Sometimes breweries they they have their cans packed somewhere else.
- 40:28Speaker 3: But I'd venture to say they probably do all of
- 40:30Speaker 3: the canning themselves on location.
- 40:32Speaker 1: I think, I mean, we can crack these open, yeah,
- 40:35Speaker 1: but I think as we do that we might have
- 40:38Speaker 1: a location to visit on our next brewhouse.
- 40:40Speaker 2: Maybe maybe keep an eye out.
- 40:42Speaker 3: So yeah, like we just said, this is the middle
- 40:44Speaker 3: of nowhere, New England.
- 40:45Speaker 2: I pa any i pa.
- 40:47Speaker 3: So we did a red ale amber. That's your wheelhouse.
- 40:51Speaker 3: I like them too, but you're definitely the more of
- 40:53Speaker 3: an amber guy. Now we're going to the I p
- 40:56Speaker 3: as this is fingers. After cracking this open, you're gonna
- 41:00Speaker 3: like this. Oh okay, it's really good. Do I need
- 41:03Speaker 3: to also lick your figures? No, okay, thank you, I
- 41:06Speaker 3: didn't want to do them. You can lick your I
- 41:08Speaker 3: had to.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Yeah, this kind of a so we'll swap it on
- 41:12Speaker 2: this one out for that here.
- 41:14Speaker 1: I think this is the first time we've featured two
- 41:16Speaker 1: different beers on the school hot.
- 41:18Speaker 3: We've done it before, but only because you and I
- 41:21Speaker 3: have been in different locations, yes, drinking different beers on
- 41:24Speaker 3: our own.
- 41:25Speaker 1: This is the first time where we've both had the
- 41:28Speaker 1: same beers and tried two different beers.
- 41:32Speaker 3: And we need to double check that too, maybe like
- 41:34Speaker 3: episode one or two. I'm kind of thinking there might
- 41:37Speaker 3: be another one.
- 41:37Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, there was one, but I think in
- 41:40Speaker 1: that episode, I think we did a like you tried
- 41:43Speaker 1: a I tried to be and then we flip flopped
- 41:46Speaker 1: or something like that.
- 41:47Speaker 2: I think.
- 41:47Speaker 3: So still a first, still a first, if not forever,
- 41:52Speaker 3: then for a long time that we've done two beers.
- 41:56Speaker 2: So I'm excited. This is definitely a new England. I PA.
- 41:58Speaker 2: It's very hazy.
- 42:00Speaker 1: It's got that citrusy Aroma.
- 42:04Speaker 2: I cannot see through this at all. There's there is
- 42:06Speaker 2: no seeing through this.
- 42:08Speaker 1: Oh man, I could be I could be wrong. But
- 42:12Speaker 1: Citra Hops, that would make sense.
- 42:15Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 42:15Speaker 1: If they say it on their can, we can look
- 42:17Speaker 1: and let everybody know later.
- 42:20Speaker 3: Citra is my favorite. So if that isn't there, then
- 42:21Speaker 3: this is guaranteed either way. Just off the look, the smell,
- 42:26Speaker 3: the everything.
- 42:27Speaker 2: I know, I'm gonna love this. So let's give it
- 42:29Speaker 2: to Traf School school in the football mugs. Yeah that's
- 42:36Speaker 2: a good one.
- 42:38Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, I'm gonna need like a case or two
- 42:42Speaker 3: or ten of these. This is fantastic. I love Hazy IPAs.
- 42:47Speaker 3: I love New England IPAs. If I could only have
- 42:49Speaker 3: one kind of alcohol ever, and I had to pick it,
- 42:53Speaker 3: it would be a Hazy ipa.
- 42:55Speaker 2: New England I PA. This, Oh my gosh, this is delicious.
- 42:58Speaker 2: I love this so much.
- 42:59Speaker 3: If you hate i Pas, don't waste your time, because
- 43:02Speaker 3: this is such a good I PA that people that
- 43:05Speaker 3: hate them, there's no saving grace. You have to love Hops,
- 43:08Speaker 3: you have to love Hazy IPAs. If you do, man,
- 43:11Speaker 3: you're in for a treat. This is delicious.
- 43:12Speaker 1: It's definitely got that like that danky flavor that are
- 43:16Speaker 1: kind of characteristic of beers like this. It's juicy too,
- 43:23Speaker 1: It's it's delicious.
- 43:24Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
- 43:25Speaker 3: This is this is right smack dab. It reminds me
- 43:28Speaker 3: of all of my favorite beers. It's I don't know,
- 43:32Speaker 3: it's delicious. I wish I had better describing words.
- 43:37Speaker 2: But I don't. I just I'm almost speechless. This is amazing.
- 43:41Speaker 2: There you go, and I'm excited to very quickly drink
- 43:44Speaker 2: the rest of this. Well, we can take our time.
- 43:47Speaker 2: We don't have to let you know, we don't have
- 43:49Speaker 2: to chug it here. That's true. I mean I don't
- 43:52Speaker 2: want to disrespect it by chugging you a bit. Man.
- 43:54Speaker 3: I like it a lot, Jeff. I may be reaching
- 43:56Speaker 3: out to you and to seeing you about how to
- 43:58Speaker 3: how I can pay for personal shipment of these beers,
- 44:03Speaker 3: because that's delicious. Well, let's look ahead, Vikings while we
- 44:08Speaker 3: drink this awesome beer that we were provided by Taitanka.
- 44:12Speaker 3: We're very grateful for that. Also, it's hard to knock
- 44:18Speaker 3: a good beer. But maybe we should have done this
- 44:21Speaker 3: in reverse order, because this green here looks an awful
- 44:24Speaker 3: lot like Jet green.
- 44:25Speaker 2: This is more Jet green than even Packer green. Yeah,
- 44:28Speaker 2: it's that. It's okay. The beer itself is not green.
- 44:32Speaker 1: The beer makes up for it. But anyways, the Vikings
- 44:35Speaker 1: are playing the Jets. The Vikings are hosting quote unquote.
- 44:39Speaker 3: Yeah, it'sically a home game for the Purple in London.
- 44:42Speaker 1: Is it at which stadium? Is it at Wimblee or Tottenham?
- 44:45Speaker 3: I'll look it up really quick. I believe it's in.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Anyways, while you're looking that up, Aaron Rodgers and the
- 44:54Speaker 1: Jets looked bad against the Denver Broncos, and the Denver
- 44:58Speaker 1: Broncos looked bad as we but the Broncos snuck out
- 45:02Speaker 1: with a wind, which is crazy because I think I
- 45:05Speaker 1: saw something that there was some like NFL record for
- 45:08Speaker 1: bo Nix was the first quarterback to win after having
- 45:12Speaker 1: like less than two yards per completion or something crazy
- 45:16Speaker 1: like that.
- 45:16Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't watch that game. I didn't either.
- 45:19Speaker 2: I've heard the weather.
- 45:20Speaker 3: Wasn't great, which excuse me, kind of added to the
- 45:25Speaker 3: Jets not being able to do anything. But oh well,
- 45:28Speaker 3: like everybody faces weather at some point, so I don't know.
- 45:33Speaker 3: I do know Aaron Rodgers has a tendency to pout
- 45:36Speaker 3: if things aren't going his way.
- 45:39Speaker 2: It already kind.
- 45:39Speaker 3: Of seemed really he does that, I know, all right,
- 45:44Speaker 3: the crappy thing is at least for a long time,
- 45:46Speaker 3: when Aaron Rodgers pouted, one of two things happened. He
- 45:50Speaker 3: either totally collapsed or seemed like every time against the
- 45:53Speaker 3: Vikings he turned into some crazy, maniacal superman and threw
- 45:57Speaker 3: for ten thousand yards and pulled something out of his
- 46:01Speaker 3: button won the game. So I hope that doesn't happen.
- 46:04Speaker 3: I hope he pouts and totally collapses again.
- 46:06Speaker 2: That would be great.
- 46:08Speaker 3: But yeah, judging by the way this last game, just
- 46:11Speaker 3: seeing the box score, I'm not too afraid of the Jets.
- 46:14Speaker 3: I'm more afraid of the travel and the coming off
- 46:18Speaker 3: of a bad second half for the Vikings.
- 46:20Speaker 2: That's what I'm afraid of.
- 46:21Speaker 1: And the hype of playing in the London game and
- 46:24Speaker 1: all that. Granted that's not as it's not as big
- 46:29Speaker 1: of a deal as it used to be because there
- 46:31Speaker 1: used to only really be one or two international games
- 46:33Speaker 1: a year and they expanded it out to quite a few.
- 46:37Speaker 2: So it's at Tottenham, yeah what I'm saying.
- 46:39Speaker 3: Yeah, And Tottenham's the one that I think the NFL,
- 46:43Speaker 3: either they themselves built or the NFL has some kind
- 46:47Speaker 3: of ownership. They at least had a hand, and I
- 46:50Speaker 3: think the construction of that stadium a handful of years ago.
- 46:53Speaker 1: I think it's the preferred stadium if you're an NFL
- 46:56Speaker 1: team visiting London. I think you'd rather play at Tottenham
- 46:58Speaker 1: than Wembley.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Is it?
- 47:01Speaker 3: Although and that's not to say Wembley's a garbage arena.
- 47:04Speaker 3: I think no, it's a kind of historically great arena.
- 47:07Speaker 3: But for American football specifically.
- 47:09Speaker 1: I think Wembley was built for soccer. Yeah, obviously, Yeah,
- 47:13Speaker 1: I think Tottenham, like you've said, and I guess I
- 47:15Speaker 1: didn't even know that until you said it, but it
- 47:18Speaker 1: sounds like Tottenham was built maybe with football in mind. Yeah,
- 47:21Speaker 1: maybe more soccer, but with football in mind.
- 47:25Speaker 2: There's something I.
- 47:26Speaker 3: Don't know, if it's like the NFL as a whole
- 47:28Speaker 3: has some kind of ownership, or if it's something like
- 47:30Speaker 3: as simple as the Jaguars owner has some kind of ownership.
- 47:35Speaker 3: There's some official partnership other than just the NFL plays
- 47:40Speaker 3: a few games there every year. It's like an official
- 47:43Speaker 3: business partnership. And like I said, there was also some
- 47:46Speaker 3: decision making by the NFL on how that arena was constructed,
- 47:51Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a little bit more geared towards
- 47:54Speaker 3: being more well rounded. Obviously they play soccer there, but if.
- 47:58Speaker 1: We've got any experts out there, feel free to drop
- 48:00Speaker 1: a comment and educate us. We'd like to know if
- 48:04Speaker 1: if there's any knowledge to be learned about how Tottenham
- 48:07Speaker 1: was built.
- 48:09Speaker 3: Although I do think and you talk about playing services
- 48:12Speaker 3: all the time in football, specifically for American football in London,
- 48:17Speaker 3: and players have had a tendency not to outright complain
- 48:20Speaker 3: about like the field turf there, which I think both
- 48:23Speaker 3: stadiums have natural grass, but that is the stadium the
- 48:27Speaker 3: Vikings will be playing in the stadium that Lewis scene
- 48:30Speaker 3: had his horrific injury a few years ago, which a
- 48:34Speaker 3: good point and it's not just because of the field
- 48:36Speaker 3: surface why he got injured, but it's still something to
- 48:39Speaker 3: think about.
- 48:40Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Well they're traveling to London. It's going
- 48:45Speaker 1: to be obviously an odd game for both teams. The
- 48:50Speaker 1: travel alone is crazy, the adjustment to a different time zone,
- 48:54Speaker 1: the jet lag, all that is a lot to overcome.
- 48:58Speaker 2: The jet lag, jet the school lag. I was just
- 49:04Speaker 2: gonna say, hopefully it's a lag of jets, lack lack
- 49:07Speaker 2: of jet and I say it's terrible.
- 49:09Speaker 3: I've had too many of these middle of Nowher's here
- 49:11Speaker 3: and I'm only halfway into my first.
- 49:13Speaker 1: One, So I see where you're going with that one,
- 49:15Speaker 1: and I like it. Actually it makes sense. Anyways, Thanks
- 49:18Speaker 1: for humoring me. I appreciate it. No, I think these
- 49:22Speaker 1: international games they take a lot out of an organization.
- 49:27Speaker 1: It takes a lot for your support staff to play in,
- 49:30Speaker 1: like your equipment staff, your operation staff. They've got to
- 49:33Speaker 1: figure out how to get gear onto an airplane, not
- 49:36Speaker 1: a bus. I guess they're they're flying.
- 49:38Speaker 2: In in the US.
- 49:40Speaker 1: But like to get it over to a different country
- 49:43Speaker 1: and go through customs all that.
- 49:45Speaker 2: That's that's a lot.
- 49:46Speaker 1: And then yeah, you're playing on a surface that's not
- 49:50Speaker 1: built for football necessarily.
- 49:52Speaker 2: That's different.
- 49:53Speaker 1: Your body isn't used to being awake. At the same time,
- 49:58Speaker 1: there's different food, different and stuff available to you over there.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Stuff that like you could walk down the store to
- 50:05Speaker 1: a Walgreens or a CVS and get whatever you need here,
- 50:08Speaker 1: and you might not get that in London.
- 50:10Speaker 2: You know, you just don't know.
- 50:12Speaker 1: So all of that to say, it's an adjustment for
- 50:16Speaker 1: both teams, and I think the better coached team will
- 50:20Speaker 1: win on Sunday morning.
- 50:22Speaker 2: And at this.
- 50:23Speaker 3: Point, yes, we drink the purple kool aid and we
- 50:26Speaker 3: are Vikings Homers, but I don't think there's any question
- 50:30Speaker 3: which team is better coached at this point overall on
- 50:34Speaker 3: the field, off the field, everything like that. I think
- 50:36Speaker 3: the Vikings are miles ahead of the Jets right now,
- 50:41Speaker 3: as proven by the fact that the head coach and
- 50:45Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers Robert Salah is that his name sale. They
- 50:50Speaker 3: have had like public arguments on the field and they
- 50:55Speaker 3: try to laugh them off, but I don't know. It
- 50:57Speaker 3: reminds me of Kirk cousin Mike Zimmer and yelling at him.
- 51:02Speaker 1: You know.
- 51:03Speaker 3: So, I think the Jets, of all the teams the
- 51:06Speaker 3: Vikings could play, I think the Jets are a good choice.
- 51:09Speaker 3: I just like I said, I'm more concerned about the logistics.
- 51:14Speaker 3: I think we would see TJ. Hockinson back earlier than
- 51:18Speaker 3: we will because they're playing in London. Not that he
- 51:20Speaker 3: would have played in this week's game if it wasn't
- 51:23Speaker 3: in London, but I think it just delays it a
- 51:24Speaker 3: little bit longer. Yeah, I just think that's going to
- 51:28Speaker 3: be more of a hurdle. On top of the idea
- 51:30Speaker 3: that the Vikings just kind of es the bed in
- 51:32Speaker 3: the second half of their most recent game. I think
- 51:34Speaker 3: that's it's going to be more mental, more internal for
- 51:36Speaker 3: the Vikings than facing the Jets.
- 51:42Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 51:42Speaker 1: And I think Kevin O'Connell in his press or again,
- 51:46Speaker 1: it wasn't Tuesday.
- 51:47Speaker 2: It was either after the game yesterday or today. I
- 51:50Speaker 2: looked at a lot of stuff. I watched a lot.
- 51:52Speaker 1: Of footage, but I think he set the stage well
- 51:57Speaker 1: for his team too. This win means nothing. Is it
- 52:00Speaker 1: huge to get a divisional win? Yeah, let's celebrate that
- 52:03Speaker 1: in the locker room and maybe on the bus ride home.
- 52:05Speaker 1: But from then on, we got to get back to
- 52:08Speaker 1: work and we've got a lot of stuff to clean up.
- 52:11Speaker 1: And we played a miserable second half of football where
- 52:15Speaker 1: we nearly lost a twenty eight point lead, Like, we
- 52:21Speaker 1: have a lot to figure out, And the Jets might
- 52:24Speaker 1: be looking at that thinking like, all right, this is
- 52:26Speaker 1: how we bounce back. This is a trap game for
- 52:28Speaker 1: the Vikings. Let's take advantage of it.
- 52:31Speaker 2: It's crazy. I think that this year the Vikings have
- 52:33Speaker 2: any trap games like that's.
- 52:34Speaker 1: Right, and I don't necessarily think that way, but I
- 52:38Speaker 1: think the Jets could be thinking that way.
- 52:39Speaker 2: I agree with you.
- 52:40Speaker 3: I think it could be looked at as a trap game, yeah,
- 52:42Speaker 3: for sure. So keys to victory what do you think
- 52:45Speaker 3: are What are the Vikings need to make sure to do.
- 52:47Speaker 2: I think.
- 52:49Speaker 1: The Kevin O'Connell led Vikings have proven that if they
- 52:52Speaker 1: score first, they're more likely to win, So I think
- 52:55Speaker 1: they need to score.
- 52:56Speaker 2: First or score early. At the very least. It's tough
- 53:00Speaker 2: control who gets the ball first.
- 53:01Speaker 1: You never know how the coin flip's gonna go, and
- 53:04Speaker 1: even if you win the coin flip, you may opt
- 53:06Speaker 1: to kick it first and take the ball in the
- 53:10Speaker 1: second half, which is typically what teams do. So it's
- 53:16Speaker 1: not necessarily score first, but I think it's score early,
- 53:19Speaker 1: and I think it's score often because that was the
- 53:21Speaker 1: key to the victory against the Packers, right, It was
- 53:25Speaker 1: scoring early and often. If they would not have built
- 53:28Speaker 1: up that twenty eight point lead, if they would have
- 53:30Speaker 1: had a few duds of drives where they went three
- 53:32Speaker 1: and out and punted, they would have lost that game
- 53:35Speaker 1: because the Packers would have roared back in the second
- 53:37Speaker 1: half and it would have been twenty nine to twenty
- 53:40Speaker 1: four or something instead of thirty one twenty nine. So
- 53:44Speaker 1: I think you've got to score early and score often.
- 53:47Speaker 1: And I'm stealing one of yours because it's important. They
- 53:50Speaker 1: have to win the turnover battle. They have to or
- 53:53Speaker 1: at least tie it.
- 53:54Speaker 2: They've got to tie it or win it. They won it.
- 53:57Speaker 2: I think it was they. Yeah. I think they ultimately
- 53:59Speaker 2: won on it against one.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Yeah, the Vikings only turned it over three times and
- 54:04Speaker 1: the Packers turned it over four. So to me, until
- 54:10Speaker 1: the Vikings lose a game and do those things, that's
- 54:15Speaker 1: the key to victory.
- 54:16Speaker 2: Score first, or score.
- 54:17Speaker 1: Early and often like they did against the Packers, and
- 54:20Speaker 1: win the turnover battle. They do those two things, it's
- 54:23Speaker 1: basically kryptonite to the other team, the Vikings are gonna win.
- 54:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 54:27Speaker 3: Yeah, there's two important things that have seemed to have
- 54:30Speaker 3: proven themselves out for Kevin O'Connell as the Vikings head coach.
- 54:34Speaker 3: You hit the nail on the head the turnover battle.
- 54:36Speaker 3: Every time he has and every Vikings fan has heard
- 54:39Speaker 3: this stat for the last week or two or year
- 54:43Speaker 3: that every time Kevin O'Connell wins or ties the turnover
- 54:47Speaker 3: battle he wins, he's twenty one to oh as the
- 54:50Speaker 3: Vikings head coach with that stat. Another very important thing
- 54:55Speaker 3: is Kevin O'Connell. I think he's like twenty or twenty
- 54:58Speaker 3: one and eight. When his starting quarterback is healthy, that's huge.
- 55:03Speaker 2: That's important.
- 55:04Speaker 3: That means that his leading up, his game plan, leading
- 55:09Speaker 3: up his communication with that QB is very important. And
- 55:13Speaker 3: not that the quarterback is the only one doing anything,
- 55:16Speaker 3: but it's no secret quarterback is the most important position
- 55:20Speaker 3: in football, maybe in all of sports. So when Kevin
- 55:23Speaker 3: O'Connell has his guy healthy and they win the turnover
- 55:28Speaker 3: battle as a team, the Vikings are basically unstoppable. Kevin
- 55:32Speaker 3: O'Connell is basically unstoppable as a coach. So those are
- 55:36Speaker 3: the very important things for sure.
- 55:38Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, the coin is the only one to correctly
- 55:44Speaker 1: predict the Vikings record to this point. Interesting of all
- 55:50Speaker 1: of the picks that we made preseason. So we flipped
- 55:53Speaker 1: the coin infamously, still.
- 55:57Speaker 2: Have it right.
- 55:57Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't the football, it was the bigger mugs.
- 56:01Speaker 1: So yeah, we got we got the quarter that went
- 56:04Speaker 1: into the beer. Might be you know, starting to rust
- 56:06Speaker 1: a little with the beer who knows. But anyways, of
- 56:10Speaker 1: all the picks that we made the coin, you, your wife,
- 56:14Speaker 1: your kids, me, my wife, my kids, the coin is
- 56:18Speaker 1: the only one to be perfect so far. Everyone else.
- 56:22Speaker 1: This is interesting to me as well. Everyone else either
- 56:25Speaker 1: predicted one and three or two and two at the pointing,
- 56:29Speaker 1: so we're all at least two games behind.
- 56:32Speaker 3: And we had both predicted a one in three. Yeah
- 56:35Speaker 3: record yep as of right now as correct.
- 56:37Speaker 1: No, you picked two and two. You had them winning
- 56:40Speaker 1: the Giants and the Packers, but losing to the Niners
- 56:43Speaker 1: and the Texans. I had them losing all three of
- 56:45Speaker 1: those I had. I think we all kind of figured
- 56:48Speaker 1: they'd beat the Giants, which they did. Yeah, And I
- 56:50Speaker 1: had them losing to the Niners, Texans, and Packers. I
- 56:53Speaker 1: have them winning against the Jets.
- 56:56Speaker 2: Okay, so well, I know preseason I had him winning.
- 57:00Speaker 2: But I guess you're sticking with that pick.
- 57:02Speaker 3: My official guess. I'll give a score too. Even with
- 57:06Speaker 3: the things that scare me, the travel, the recent scare,
- 57:12Speaker 3: which I think ultimately will be a good thing because
- 57:15Speaker 3: it's something to work on. It feels like a loss
- 57:18Speaker 3: without actually having to lose. Even with all that, I
- 57:23Speaker 3: think the Vikings are going to win handedly and it's
- 57:27Speaker 3: going to be a thirty five to twenty game for
- 57:29Speaker 3: the Vikings.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, that's a that's a fifteen point win.
- 57:35Speaker 3: And that is factoring both the Vikings being good and
- 57:38Speaker 3: the Jets kind of collapsing a little bit. So that's
- 57:41Speaker 3: my official prediction. I try to talk myself out of it.
- 57:44Speaker 3: I'm trying to say, stop stop predicting wins, Austin. Stop
- 57:49Speaker 3: feeling like they're gonna, you know, go and do the
- 57:52Speaker 3: whole thing, because they're not going to do it. We're
- 57:54Speaker 3: Vikings fans. They've never done it. We joked about it
- 57:57Speaker 3: before we recorded twenty sixteen when they started five, we
- 58:01Speaker 3: could have been saying the same thing. It feels like
- 58:02Speaker 3: a very similar team to twenty sixteen, and it didn't
- 58:06Speaker 3: happen that year. They went eight and eight overall and
- 58:09Speaker 3: missed the playoffs. So I'm trying to tell myself, calm down,
- 58:12Speaker 3: it's not gonna work out. They might make the playoffs,
- 58:14Speaker 3: but no.
- 58:15Speaker 1: But pretty significant difference though, between the twenty twenty four
- 58:19Speaker 1: Vikings and the twenty sixteen Vikings. And that's not that
- 58:21Speaker 1: they it's that day. Sorry I said that came out
- 58:25Speaker 1: wrong this seven percent of man, I know you're only
- 58:29Speaker 1: halfway in. It's because Sam Darnold has been around basically
- 58:35Speaker 1: through all of training camp and stuff. That's true there
- 58:38Speaker 1: for Ota, it wasn't this desperation move, because in twenty
- 58:41Speaker 1: sixteen it was oh crap, Teddy Bridgewater, his knee just
- 58:46Speaker 1: stopped being a knee.
- 58:47Speaker 2: It just like ceased to exist anymore.
- 58:50Speaker 3: It got the snapped, is what it happensne I would
- 58:53Speaker 3: love to know the actual details. We were going to
- 58:56Speaker 3: talk to a guy later this week that might have
- 58:58Speaker 3: some unofficial information and I'm just guessing because he's more
- 59:01Speaker 3: connected than I am.
- 59:02Speaker 2: Than we are. But anyways, the.
- 59:06Speaker 1: Ending to that story is they went out and signed
- 59:08Speaker 1: Sam Bradford, and Sam played well.
- 59:11Speaker 3: He set at the time, he broke the NFL record
- 59:15Speaker 3: for completion percentage. It has since been broken, but at
- 59:19Speaker 3: the time it was still really good seventy and it
- 59:21Speaker 3: was a good signing by Rix Bielman to go out
- 59:24Speaker 3: and get the guy. And unfortunately the rest of the
- 59:28Speaker 3: team didn't play as well as maybe you would have hoped.
- 59:33Speaker 3: And then that led to the seventeen season, which surprisingly,
- 59:37Speaker 3: Sam Bradford's knee decided to do something similar.
- 59:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it just that was weird, and the soreness.
- 59:43Speaker 1: Case Keenum takes over and they go the NFC Championship
- 59:47Speaker 1: game case.
- 59:47Speaker 3: Keenum is the definition of hero ball. He just threw
- 59:52Speaker 3: it up and didn't care and it just ended up working.
- 59:55Speaker 3: For most of the season. That was a lot of fun.
- 59:57Speaker 3: But I will say twenty sixteen it was also different
- 1:00:00Speaker 3: because those first five games, the defense was on a
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: historic run of scoring and turnovers and doing things that
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: both led to wins and were unsustainable. You can't bank
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: on your defense scoring a touchdown or two every game,
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: and if that's the way you're winning, it's not gonna
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: last very long because that's not sustainable. You can have
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: a good defense, but you can't consistently have a high
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: powered scoring defense.
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: And I think this year's Vikings defense, the twenty twenty
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: four Vikings defense, isn't that. They're not like fluky, Oh,
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: you scored a bunch of touchdowns and won your teams
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: and games. They have turned the ball over, they have
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: forced some key stops on third and fourth down, and
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: they've given the ball back to the offense to do
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: the job of the offense. Right, Like, Yeah, they've had
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: a few splashy moments, and I think we've had a
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: few defensive touchdowns, which is great. But I think that's
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: a key difference too. The defense is playing its role.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: The defense is doing its job. Brian Flores has these
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: guys primed and ready to go out every week to
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: make the opposing team's offense job difficult. They've turned the
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: ball over quite a bit, and they've put the ball
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: back in the hands of Kevin O'Connell in the offense
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: to go score points.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: And that's how we've won games in these first four games.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely like our chances too. Yeah, but
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: I think my score prediction is lower.
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: Again.
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue to side with the defense here, okay.
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: And it's not that I don't have faith in the offense.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: It's just that the defense has played so stinking good.
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened in the third quarter
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: and the fourth quarter specifically against the Packers. I think
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: it was more that the Packers figured something out, unless
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: the Vikings didn't know what was going on. But I
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: think it's low scoring the Packers. Did the Packers even score?
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: Not the Packers.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers I keep thinking the Packers the Jets. Did
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: the Jets even score a touchdown?
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: We can look, I know, ten to nine.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: Yep, I don't think he's I don't think they scored
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think they kicked three field goals if
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, but correct me, please if I'm wrong,
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: you got it right here? No, oh, that's the Broncos.
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: Doesn't look like any touchdowns. So three field goals for
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: the Jets. Yeah, three out of four attempts. Okay.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: So with that information, my official score prediction is twenty
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: to ten.
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: I think the field gives the Vikings offense and fits.
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: I think the travel gives the Vices offense and fits,
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: but the defense figures it out. They allow one touchdown.
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: Twenty to ten. Okay, Vikings over the Jets.
- 1:03:10Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm I'm just a little distracted because we have
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: the Monday night games, which is so dumb. There's only
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: be one Monday Night game, but tonight there's two. We
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: have both of them going on in front of us
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: right now. And there seemed to have been a decent
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: injury to one of the players in the Seahawks Lions game,
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: and you know me, it sounds like injuries. I like
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: to film low quality videos and talk over them so
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: people can see slow mo how the injury happened. But
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: it didn't look like it was too bad of an injury,
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: So I apologize for being distracted the last few minutes.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: Gino Smith was definitely under dress there.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they're looking at it to see
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: if he got the ball off or if it was
- 1:03:53Speaker 3: a sack. It looks like the Lions are gonna end
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: up winning, But which is There's still a quarter left.
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: It's thirty five to twenty at the end of the
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: third quarter. The Lions are looking pretty high powered. This
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: is not a Lions podcast, but it is the Vikings
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: and they're in the in the NFC North. Who knows,
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: maybe the Seahawks. I'm rooting for the Seahawks to win
- 1:04:13Speaker 3: tonight because any division rival losing is a good thing,
- 1:04:17Speaker 3: oh for sure, even if it means the Seahawks continue
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: to be a fellow undefeated team for at least another week.
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: Well, I think I said this before we started officially recording,
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: but December twenty second.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: Yeah, Vikings at Seahawks.
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: Yeah, which is always They're never in Minnesota.
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: It's going to be.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: It seems like every year the Vikings play the Seahawks
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: and it's always in Seattle, and it's really annoying.
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: Well, circle that one on your calendar because I think
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: that's going to be a that's going to be a
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: phenomenal game to watch. Even though Seattle is losing by
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: fifteen right now to the Lions with fifteen minutes.
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: Of football to play. Yep, I don't know. Seattle is
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: a good football team.
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: They've kind of figured it out and Gino Smith is
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: kind of directed his career a little bit. He's got
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and a few other weapons around him to
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: make stuff happen. The defense is looking pretty stout, not
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: tonight because.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: They've allowed thirty five points.
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: But Hey, that game, I think that could be a
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: like NFC playoff seating type of thing because I think
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: that's what like week thirteen or fourteen, it's near the
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: end of the season. Yeah, so circle that one on
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: your calendars and buckle up, because that's gonna be a
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: good one, I think. So.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: I think we've talked talked the Packer game, We've kind
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: of previewed the Jet game. I've got one question for
- 1:05:39Speaker 3: you that's not on our outline.
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: Here, are you ready for some football? Always?
- 1:05:43Speaker 3: That's not the question, though, Okay, this you're gonna know
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: exactly what I'm getting at the second I asked this question.
- 1:05:49Speaker 3: And you might roll your eyes and this might get
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: us nowhere. But let's play pretend and say that the
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: phone rings, and you're and the phone rings, and it's
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: a magic phone. The call is coming from any team
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: you want, offering a swap, one for one swap of
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: starting quarterbacks Sam Darnold for anyone in the league right now,
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: starting quarterback in the league right now. Who who would
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: you take? Let's because this is theoretically any other team,
- 1:06:31Speaker 3: who would you take? And we can go down the
- 1:06:34Speaker 3: list and I can tell you when I would stop.
- 1:06:38Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Do I have to pick?
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: So you just say right now, like because there's one
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: obvious answer, like instantly, yes, we'd make that one for
- 1:06:47Speaker 3: one trade right away. Are you inferring Patrick Mahomes, I'm saying,
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: Pat Mahomes, instantly, we would trade one for one.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: I don't onn tracked for contract everything. I don't even
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: know that I would do that. WHOA, I don't know
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: that I would do it? All right?
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: Explain it because I don't know that there's chemistry there.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: I think I like the chemistry that Sam Darnold and
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell have.
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: I'm blown away right now.
- 1:07:11Speaker 1: I don't I don't care how good Patrick Mahomes is. Okay,
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: he's well one, he's a drama queen. Yeah, though he's
- 1:07:22Speaker 1: a good player. He's a really good football player. And
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: I think he works really well in Andy Reid's system.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: And and I'll even just admit, because I'm a coach myself,
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: Andy Reid has in some ways kind of a hands
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: off approach to the offense, like.
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: What it feels like.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll call the plays and he'll mean he's he's
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: a pretty pretty smart offensive dude.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: But like he he puts a.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: Lot of control in the hands of Patrick Mahomes and
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: the rest of the offense, Like he's it's widely known
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: that he lets them drop their own plays.
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: We saw like some of these weird like all right,
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: we're gonna do this weird circle dance in the huddle.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: And then we're gonna go out and you know, do this.
- 1:08:07Speaker 1: And we've seen Patrick Mahomes do the weird like shovel
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: pass thing and did the Seahawks. Just Seahawks just scored
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: a touchdown. Oh all right, anyways, all.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: Right, okay, so you're you're on, Let me finish, Let
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: me finish.
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: So I appreciate the open handedness as a head coach
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: and not the like micromanaging I'm gonna do everything for
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: you and you just go out there and do what
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: I tell you to do kind of thing. I can
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: appreciate that as a as a coach because that's in
- 1:08:36Speaker 1: some ways how I try to coach.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: I try to put control in.
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: My athlete's hands and let them go out and perform
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: and let them do what I am confident they can do. Sure,
- 1:08:48Speaker 1: all of that to say, I don't know that that's
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: how Kevin O'Connell operates as a head coach, and I
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: don't know that Patrick Mahomes and Kevin O'Connell.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: Would work well together.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: I think we would see a lot of this Mike
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: Zimmerkirk Cousins type of thing. I think we would see
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: a lot of the Robert Sala Aaron Rodgers type of
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: tension that can exist and we've seen exist between head
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: coach and starting quarterback. I love the dynamic right now
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: between Sam Donald and Kevin O'Connell, and I think it's
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: so underrated, and I think it's so underappreciated in the
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: league that like there, I don't know that there's a
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: player or a dollar amount or anything. For me. If
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: I'm in Quaysy a doofa Menza's office and I have
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: his job and I have his phone, I don't know
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: that there's really any scenario that I make any changes
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: right now.
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: And to be clear, this was a totally MakeBelieve question
- 1:09:46Speaker 3: where it's not Quasy making the call trying to do
- 1:09:49Speaker 3: everything he can, it's me. It's the other team calling
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: Quaycy saying we need Sam Donald and we just need
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: one for one swap. My question was who would it
- 1:09:58Speaker 3: need to be, and like who who wouldn't you do
- 1:10:01Speaker 3: that swap for? Okay, Well that changes it a little, Okay, Okay.
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: I guess maybe I didn't explain myself well enough.
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: I was thinking, like I'm on the Viking side, like
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: that things are were four, No, things are rolling.
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: Because obviously, if Quacy was trying to call and trade
- 1:10:17Speaker 3: Donald for Mahomes, obviously that would that would include multiple multiple,
- 1:10:21Speaker 3: multiple first round picks. The answer might no matter what
- 1:10:25Speaker 3: be no which it should be as far as the
- 1:10:28Speaker 3: chiefs are concerned. But this was the hypothetical, who would
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: you take over Sam Donald? Really is what I'm asking.
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: And I still I don't know.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: I still kind of hold to like, I don't know
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: that I would take anybody, anybody for the purpose of chemistry.
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: I don't know. It's it's a tough question.
- 1:10:48Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Burrow, perhaps Josh Allen, perhaps Lamar Jackson.
- 1:10:56Speaker 3: I'm saying anybody, okay, one for one, I would say
- 1:11:02Speaker 3: if I had to pick, not that you have to pick,
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: you don't have to pick, the answer could be nobody.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: Still I'm gonna still say nobody. But if there were
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: a scenario where a decision had to be made and
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: there was no other option, like you can't say no,
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: then it would probably be Josh Allen. I think he's
- 1:11:20Speaker 3: proven to be the best quarterback. I think getting a
- 1:11:24Speaker 3: guy like Stefan Diggs off of that team in Buffalo
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: has really opened things up. Buffalo looks scary.
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: They look good, even though didn't they just live lost
- 1:11:34Speaker 1: it still, but they look like a really good football team,
- 1:11:38Speaker 1: and I think getting it's a stretch. I think to
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: say a cancerous player but getting getting a difficult personality
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: out of your locker room opens things up.
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: I don't think it's much of a stretch.
- 1:11:53Speaker 3: As far as Stefan Diggs is concerned. I think you
- 1:11:55Speaker 3: could accurately call him, put him in the category of
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: locker room cancer. Okay, not to belong this anyway, Let's
- 1:12:03Speaker 3: kind of switch the question up a little bit. This
- 1:12:05Speaker 3: is for not just the rest of the season, but
- 1:12:07Speaker 3: for the future.
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: Anybody, would you trade Sam Donald for anybody? I don't
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: think so.
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: What about JJ McCarthy, Well, I would say, and I
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: think you've You've stirred the pot a little bit with
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: some of our social media accounts on this topic already,
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: and I like that. I'm okay with stirring the pot
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll do it from time to time.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: I would like to see the Vikings bring Sam Donald
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: back after this season. I think he's already proven through
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: four games that he's worthy of another contract, even if
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: it's just another year, like another one year.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: What was it ten million this year? That's not what
- 1:12:51Speaker 2: it would be.
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: But let's let's say it's one year fifteen million.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: I think you're looking at at least double that. I
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: think can you think thirty.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: If it gets to the point that you're fighting to
- 1:13:03Speaker 3: keep Sam Donald, it means he had a great year.
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: He won a playoff game or two, or the unthinkable.
- 1:13:09Speaker 3: I think the number starts at thirty.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: Well. I think the good news for the Vikings is
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: the cap hits of Daniel Hunter and Kirk Cousins will
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: be completely off the books next year, which I think
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: opens up a ton of cap space. And I'm certainly
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: not a cap expert, but I think you could maybe
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: afford to keep Sam Donald, keep JJ McCarthy, keep Justin Jefferson,
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: keep Christian Darris, keep TJ.
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: Hawkins, and keep.
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: I don't know that you have to really get rid
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: of any I think you keep Sam Donald. I think
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: you continue this draft and developmenttality that the Packers have
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: proven is super effective with the quarterbacks for the last
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: forty years of their existence as a franchise. I don't
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: think you rush JJ McCarthy into service. I also don't
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: think think you rush to market and try to sell
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy for whatever you get him. Like I think
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: you keep him. I think you tell him, hey man,
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: we're glad you're healthy again.
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: We want you. QB two competition.
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: That's the way she goes and we want you to
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Like you saw how successful this can be with Sam
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: Darnold last year, we think we can be even better
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: with you. Like I think that you're you're telling JJ
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: McCarthy that in in those back hallway conversations, like Sam's
- 1:14:30Speaker 1: killing it right now, But we drafted you for a reason,
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: and just keep keep your nose to the grindstone. Let's go,
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: let's do this thing, and let's go let's do what
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: the Chiefs have.
- 1:14:42Speaker 2: Done with Patrick Mahomes.
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: Let's do what you know, you know fill in the
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: team has done over the course of history in the NFL.
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: Let's let's do a little dynasty thing here.
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: I agree, And I'm definitely in the mindset that right
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: now of not don't sign him right now. I know
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: on social media have kind of stirred the pot saying
- 1:15:05Speaker 3: that right now, and.
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: Trey JJ McCarthy, I obviously don't believe that.
- 1:15:07Speaker 3: I'm just looking for likes and comments, but I do
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: think if things keep trending the way they are right now,
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: you gotta try to keep Sam Donald. And one thing
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: that helps the Vikings is Sam Donald kind of needs
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: the Vikings or koc as much as the Vikings would
- 1:15:26Speaker 3: in theory need a very good Sam Donald because it's
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: a win win for sure. Yeah, outside of outside of
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: Shanahan last season, Donald hasn't had a good situation and
- 1:15:39Speaker 3: he's never had a good situation.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: As the starter.
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: So you could argue that Sam Donald would be incentivized
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: to stay in Minnesota, even if it meant he took
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: a little bit of a discount. But even in that situation,
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: the discount would mean thirty million rather than forty million
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: a year.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: Something like that.
- 1:15:58Speaker 3: Hopefully we get to our about this in January February,
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: that'd be great.
- 1:16:03Speaker 2: I hope it's more like February March.
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's all a moot point. If things go
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: south starting this week against the Jets.
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: Well we got to start there. We got to start
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: with that game and we got to keep things rolling.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: You hope that the Vikings can do that against the
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: Jets for sure, and then after that you get a
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: week off, which is helpful for the team.
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: Not they go Jets and then did I miss something?
- 1:16:28Speaker 3: I think I just totally missed over what you said.
- 1:16:31Speaker 3: It's Jets and then Lions and then a week off.
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: No, no, Jets Bye week Lions. Interesting. Okay, you're going
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: to that game, aren't you, am? Yeah, so you're right.
- 1:16:39Speaker 3: I thought they didn't have I think it was last
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: time they went to London they didn't have the buy
- 1:16:42Speaker 3: it Jets.
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: Ye by Lions. You're right. I'm sorry, I'm the idiot,
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: dun set. It's all good.
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: We'll just make you take a shot of apple side
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: of it and it's really good for you.
- 1:16:51Speaker 2: Did you know that? Yeah, it'll make it'll limber up
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: my joints. It might make me sick.
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: Well, anyways, it should.
- 1:17:00Speaker 2: Be a good game. I'm excited to watch it. I
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: might have to watch.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: It like in retrospect because it's like prime church time.
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna be out of town, returning home from
- 1:17:11Speaker 3: the land of Darkness of Wisconsin this weekend and driving
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: home during the game, so I'll either be watching it
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: on my phone in the car, or I might just
- 1:17:22Speaker 3: maybe we should just plan to get together and watch
- 1:17:24Speaker 3: the game after.
- 1:17:26Speaker 2: In the afternoon. Yeah, yeah, we'll figure it out. We'll
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: figure it out.
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: But anyways, it should be a good game regardless. Hopefully
- 1:17:32Speaker 1: the Vikings can pull it out and we could roll
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: into the bye week with a five and o Vikings team.
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: Knock on Wood.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: That would be a lot of fun. We had some
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: great beer tonight.
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of. I don't have anything to scull.
- 1:17:46Speaker 3: I drink it too fast, Tatanka. This middle of nowhere
- 1:17:50Speaker 3: is freaking delicious.
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: It's good. I like it.
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: It's up there for me, like I've had one and
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: I can already say. I could say after one sip
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: it's there. This is and maybe it's me. Maybe I'm
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: simple and easily pleased. But as far as New England,
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: i PA's goes, I don't know. This is hard to
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: beat for me.
- 1:18:10Speaker 2: You need to get one more and just that was it.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: That's all we had. That's true.
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: Yeah, well we have more Tatanka beer. We do, but
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: we need to we need to say that maybe next week,
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: maybe the week after. We got some Keg Creek beer
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: as well in there. So, but we filled up the
- 1:18:25Speaker 1: school hot fridge. We're ready for like probably two or
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: three weeks.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: Yeah, Titark.
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: If you ever want to send any more, also, I
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: will be reaching out because I will want to purchase
- 1:18:33Speaker 3: my own case or more of this middle of nowhere.
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: It's delicious, So I guess that's what I have to
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: say about it?
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: What do you think?
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: Well, yes, great, of course I'm going to gravitate more
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: towards the Rooster Red.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: That was a fantastic beer. Love it.
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: I would I would have more than you would have
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: of the Middle of Nowhere because I could probably stomach
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: a few more because it's four.
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: And a half seven and a half person. But both
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: were really good.
- 1:19:02Speaker 1: Definitely we need to put that on the list of
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: places to visit summer of twenty twenty five.
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: We can make it.
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: I don't know the exact drive time, but yeah, absolutely,
- 1:19:12Speaker 3: just off beer alone.
- 1:19:14Speaker 2: I think I think we can figure it out.
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: And I think one of the breweries that was on
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: our list that we didn't get to this year is
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: in that area.
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: We can make that work.
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: We can do more of a like a Northern Iowa
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: tour of Iowa breweries. Anyways, Yeah, definitely check them out
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: if you can find it.
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: I don't know do they distribute anyway, And I think
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: Jeff was saying they're not just distributing a whole ton
- 1:19:41Speaker 3: right now. But I gotta believe if you reach out
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: to them and just say you're interested, they'd figure out
- 1:19:47Speaker 3: how to make that happen. I'm literally about to go
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: through that process right now and figure out how I
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: can get something shipped. I know, shipping alcohol can get
- 1:19:55Speaker 3: a little hairy. I don't know the exact rules, but
- 1:19:58Speaker 3: they're they're really good. Should be available everywhere. Yeah, I
- 1:20:03Speaker 3: like them.
- 1:20:03Speaker 1: Well, maybe we can update people next week on how
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: that went for you. But anyways, Titanka Brewery, Uh, we
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: love your beer. We're very very grateful that you sent
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: us several and we're excited to try some more in
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: the not too distant future.
- 1:20:19Speaker 3: Hey, if people wanted to reach out to us the
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: way Jeff from Titanka did, how how would they go
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- 1:21:18Speaker 2: somebody bought another shirt?
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be another one of these skull Hop shirts.
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: So you remember a couple of weeks ago we said, hey,
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: did you buy another shirt? Because a couple of weeks
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- 1:22:01Speaker 1: We appreciate the free beer from Tatanka, and we'll definitely
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- 1:22:11Speaker 3: Hopefully at a win against the Jets. A win against
- 1:22:14Speaker 3: the Jets, because who has to spin the wheel if lose?
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: Does anybody have to spin the wheel?
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: If the Vikings lose, we both have to spin the
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- 1:22:27Speaker 1: the Vikings to win this week against the Jets, the coin,
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: you me, our wives, our kids.
- 1:22:34Speaker 2: It's a win across the board.
- 1:22:36Speaker 3: Let's let's hope we don't have to spin the wheel next,
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