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Patriots Unfiltered 12/9: NFL Week 14 Recap, AFC/Playoff Picture, Bills Preview · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Seattle and Denver, the two loudest places.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's the bye, nice guys, get the weekend off.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to know we're going to have Willie
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  Speaker 1: McGuinness is going to be by on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest. I always thought that he could have been.
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  Speaker 1: you know my boss, Chubby Paul does not just randomly
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  Speaker 2: Paul, you have to run around in the shower to get.
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  Speaker 3: What Ben Johnson took his shirt off in the postgame
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  Speaker 3: celebration that they would give free hot dogs for the
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  Speaker 3: entire day to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium and we're coming off the bye, so
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a different show. We've got Evan, Paul, myself, Deuce, Alex,
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  Speaker 2: and Matt in the booth, so we'll talk about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how we spent our by weekend and what games we
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  Speaker 2: watched and reactions from from those games, and possible competitors
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  Speaker 2: for the Patriots down the stretch in the playoffs. We
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  Speaker 2: got the Bills coming up on Sunday, a hat and
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  Speaker 2: T shirt game. If the Patriots win, they clinch the AFSE,
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  Speaker 2: so it's a huge game. Bills are desperate, They're still
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  Speaker 2: trying to keep their hopes alive. So it's like the
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  Speaker 2: old days, you know, like when the Colts and Peyton
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  Speaker 2: Manning would come. You know this this means something regular season,
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  Speaker 2: two great quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: Championship on the line.
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  Speaker 5: Someday, someday the whole seat, but you'll only need the edge.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this is what it's all about.
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  Speaker 5: I mean everyone's like, wohld you ever thought that they
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  Speaker 5: would win eleven games?
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  Speaker 4: Like screw the record?
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  Speaker 5: Would you have thought that they'd be playing the Bills
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  Speaker 5: for the a FC East here in December.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just first week in December. We have
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  Speaker 2: a chance to clinch the AFC. East's why you.
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  Speaker 4: Lift all them weights. This is it, this is what
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  Speaker 4: it's all about.
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  Speaker 3: Mike is just fired up, fired up.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 2: I'm nervous. There's some nervous energy. I want to talk
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  Speaker 2: about that because and I understand that I'm anxious to
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  Speaker 2: But are you fearful?
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  Speaker 6: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't fear no man, No, I don't fear any pity.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't fear anybody. But you're eleven and two.
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  Speaker 5: We were asked last night.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people the bills. I mean, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying they can't lose, but like, no, of
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  Speaker 2: course not.
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  Speaker 1: But you don't really have a lot to lose. Like
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  Speaker 1: you're in total control right now.
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  Speaker 4: H Like you are right now. But I use slippery slope.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to lose to the Jets of the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's a choke.
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  Speaker 3: If you lose to I know, but then the pressure
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  Speaker 3: is on.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm talking about just momentum and confidence in terms
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  Speaker 2: of confidence. If the Patriots lose this game, I sense
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  Speaker 2: a lot of Patriots fans are going to lose confidence.
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  Speaker 1: Do you sense the team would know?
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  Speaker 6: Then?
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  Speaker 1: What do you care?
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about fans because finger that's who our audience is.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Rabel isn't watching right now, Drake may is, and
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking to our.
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  Speaker 3: Fans, it's totally fair worry about a little nervous about
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  Speaker 3: it because we didn't expect them to be here. So
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  Speaker 3: like it's like, I think all of us are kind
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  Speaker 3: of waiting for the other shoot to drop a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: At least a piece of us is thinking maybe this
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  Speaker 3: is just a little too much ahead of schedule, and
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  Speaker 3: like beating Josh Allen, who's playing other worldly football right now,
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  Speaker 3: twice to win the division. It's I'm not saying they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna lose. I'm just saying I understand I know not.
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  Speaker 2: But here's my suggestion to Patriots fans, though, Okay, don't
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  Speaker 2: go into this game dreading it. Go into this game
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  Speaker 2: with joy. Go into this game with confidence, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we could lose. Of course we could lose to the
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  Speaker 2: Jets and Dolphins like that could happen. But go into
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  Speaker 2: this game thinking we're eleven and two, we're good, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and we beat them the first time.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who you're trying to psych out or
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  Speaker 1: why oh no, I.
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  Speaker 2: Just I just all these people.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like any Patriots fan. I normally, as
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  Speaker 1: you guys know, I'm pretty critical of Patriots fans at times.
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  Speaker 1: I don't sense any of the stuff that Fred's talking
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  Speaker 1: I do. I don't sense apprehension at all.
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  Speaker 2: If we lose this game, then we're going to lose
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  Speaker 2: the momentum, and.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: That would be next week if they were to lose
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  Speaker 4: the game. But I mean, I I'm just excited.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, and it's not fear, it's you know, just
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  Speaker 5: a little nervous anticipation for the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Drake May has won me over with just
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  Speaker 5: how he plays and knowing that he's going to have
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  Speaker 5: a chance. But to Evan's point, Josh Allen's playing really
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  Speaker 5: well right now, and you feel like he knows this
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  Speaker 5: is his time to take over. This is when the
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  Speaker 5: real M v P step up and you know, get
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  Speaker 5: their team into the playoffs, streaking into the playoffs. And
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  Speaker 5: we were asked last night at the season ticket holder
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  Speaker 5: event that we spoke at, you know what team scares.
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  Speaker 4: You the most?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I said Buffalo, I think and of all
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  Speaker 5: the a f C field, that's the best qu the
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  Speaker 5: best quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Who scares you? But this is what's on their mind?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, am I choosing the wrong word of
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  Speaker 5: scares like? I think is the best team that they was?
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  Speaker 5: Most likely?
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  Speaker 1: The biggest challenge is the question when someone asked you
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  Speaker 1: which team scares you the most, it's who would you
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  Speaker 1: least like to see? Not because you don't think you
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  Speaker 1: can beat up.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't mean to say, you know, we know it's
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  Speaker 4: jumping down my throat.
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  Speaker 1: It's the boss man who is trying to get the
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  Speaker 1: The fans like all.
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  Speaker 4: In a confident and you know they are.
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  Speaker 1: This fan base does not lack for confidence ever. Do
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  Speaker 1: you want to know when you should dread a game.
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  Speaker 1: You don't dread games when you're eleven and two.
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  Speaker 4: You don't want.
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  Speaker 1: You dread games when you're four and eleven and you're
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  Speaker 1: coming out of the by and you can't wait for
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  Speaker 1: the stupid season to be.
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  Speaker 4: Over and you might win and game.
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  Speaker 1: No Patriots fans are dreading this game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 1: I listen again. I am often I have fun with
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  Speaker 1: the verbal back and forth. With my Patriots fans out there, right,
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  Speaker 1: we have some fun with.
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  Speaker 4: My people, my people, I do.
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  Speaker 1: I think more of you than to think that you're
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  Speaker 1: dreading this game, any of you. Not not, No significant
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  Speaker 1: percentage of Patriots fans are dreading a home game to
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  Speaker 1: win the division. I just can't imagine now, is there's
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  Speaker 1: some people that think there's going to be a tough game.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I think it's going to be a tough
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  Speaker 1: of course, people think it's going to be a tough game.
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  Speaker 3: That's at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: What they say, nothing worth accomplishing, you know, isn't worth
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  Speaker 1: working for, you know, like all those cliches. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: screwed that up.
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  Speaker 2: But even even during the Brady years, it was not
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  Speaker 2: always easy to beat the same team twice in your division,
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  Speaker 2: even in those days, you know, right, well what not
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  Speaker 2: all the time? You know?
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  Speaker 5: So, but it's the thing, and we have talked about it,
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  Speaker 5: if you very well might play this Bills team a
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  Speaker 5: third time.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I just look at it.
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  Speaker 5: What makes me anticipate anticipatory And I'm trying to think
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  Speaker 5: I'm not nervous. Uh, it's just the opportunity is there
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  Speaker 5: for you this weekend, don't miss the opportunity, don't get
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  Speaker 5: into Now we're in a race and we got it,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and the pressure builds, and just take advantage
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  Speaker 5: of a home game at home.
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  Speaker 1: That would be against Buffalo, that would be in panic
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  Speaker 1: if they don't know. I just feel like you can't
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  Speaker 1: win every single game. They've won ten in a row.
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  Speaker 1: Like if they lose, then you just got to bounce
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  Speaker 1: back and win the next one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm that sounds great, Paul, but you know
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  Speaker 5: very well, they lose this game, there're gonna be some
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  Speaker 5: spiraling Patriot fans that we weren't even that good and
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  Speaker 5: now they were.
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  Speaker 1: They won't be Patriots fans. They might be people around
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  Speaker 1: the country doing that, yeah, but Patriots fans aren't going
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  Speaker 1: to be done it. Patriots fans will be on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: yelling at those people.
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  Speaker 2: So, dude, you brought up how well Josh Allen is playing,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no doubt about that. So I want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the game against the Bengals and what we saw.
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  Speaker 2: Neither team could stop the other team, and the only
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  Speaker 2: time the Bill stopped the Bengals towards the end is
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  Speaker 2: when they had those you know, Burrow like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what he was thinking. He just got too relaxed
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  Speaker 2: or something. So you do the first one, okay, and
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  Speaker 2: then you do it the second one, second one, like
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  Speaker 2: second one, but he's still like, you got to look
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  Speaker 2: for your legs. You can't just like you know, you
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  Speaker 2: have to be aware of where the pressures coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Housses get batted down the line all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Two consecutive drives and two interceptions. That was weird.
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  Speaker 1: I thought they were going there.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the pick six was just like he like
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  Speaker 3: ducked it like I did.
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  Speaker 1: Think something happened in his hand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get that was all that was all on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was all borrow.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that. That was my point being. That
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  Speaker 3: wasn't like I don't know that was kind of like
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  Speaker 3: a fluky interception. If he asked me, that wasn't like
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  Speaker 3: something he wasn't seeing or like wasn't ready for it.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree he saw the blitz coming. He tried
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  Speaker 3: to loft it over the guy's head.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he had the rip on the ball
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  Speaker 1: and it went through it. It kind of was a
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  Speaker 1: shot put, yeah, and it didn't he didn't throw.
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  Speaker 3: It enough throw bad play, so bad football.
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  Speaker 2: I mean to get one of those, you know, had
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  Speaker 2: that not happened, could very well have won that.
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  Speaker 4: Game, you know, that first one. I mean they're basically
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  Speaker 4: driving to maybe put the game away.
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  Speaker 1: If you score a touchdown, no one, no one, no
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  Speaker 1: one could starve. As you said, Fred, no one could
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  Speaker 1: stop the other. It was only turnovers that were were
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  Speaker 1: preventing points. And you know, unfortunately for the the Bengals,
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  Speaker 1: they they committed the last turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, Burrow in the pregame interview says something,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we all know that. But in conditions like that,
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  Speaker 2: the offense does have an advantage because they know where
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  Speaker 2: they're going. The defense has to react.
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  Speaker 3: I am so surprised by how many people get that
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  Speaker 3: wrong and how many people or like think it's good
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  Speaker 3: you have to run the ball, and no, like you can't.
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  Speaker 3: There's no traction. So in the defense is trying to
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  Speaker 3: like mirror what the offense is doing like that. Somebody
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  Speaker 3: has an advantage here. And it's like the passing games
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  Speaker 3: had no problem throwing the football up like up and down.
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  Speaker 1: The field always always keeps track of the winds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, will right wind is more of a factor.
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  Speaker 1: Every time you prevent you from throwing it. Now, your
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  Speaker 1: advantages that Evan's talking about are mitigated because you can't
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  Speaker 1: throw the ball where you want to. But as long
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  Speaker 1: as you're able to throw it with a reasonable amount
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  Speaker 1: of accuracy, what Evan just said exactly what happened. Like
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  Speaker 1: how many times did you see like guys cutting across
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  Speaker 1: the middle and they're like chopping their steps so they
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  Speaker 1: don't lose their foot is wide open?
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  Speaker 5: You know, yeah, I mean I don't know if that
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  Speaker 5: had anything to do with played Josh Allen touchdown down.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he just he it was evident.
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  Speaker 1: You think you think he only he only reached for
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  Speaker 1: his head five times during the course.
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  Speaker 3: At the game, like he was clearly seeing make sure
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  Speaker 3: we changed and he's.
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  Speaker 5: Like the one in the middle, and then he came
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  Speaker 5: back and caught the touchdown, right, I mean, I know,
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  Speaker 5: you know, because it's muscle memory.
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  Speaker 3: Like six passes. It was like this guy's triple right now.
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  Speaker 5: There was another one too where Chase just like I
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  Speaker 5: think it was the third down that he caught a
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  Speaker 5: few yards short of the sticks and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: and he just broke the tack.
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  Speaker 4: I mean those two guys are so good.
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  Speaker 5: But I was going to point out that the two plays,
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  Speaker 5: the Josh Allen long touchdown run where and and then
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  Speaker 5: the third down where he sealed the game, Like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: those are the plays that concerned me this weekend, Like
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  Speaker 5: the Patriots have to have a plan for those.
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  Speaker 1: Josh, he took off the third and fifteen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I like, it's at the end of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm looking, I'm like, oh, third and fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: He got the first right, that's too far.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, and then the touchdown, nobody even touched him.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he was just gone. Those are you know.
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  Speaker 5: I do think Buffalo has some holes on defense and
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  Speaker 5: you know, being able to push the ball down the field.
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  Speaker 1: Did you guys do any research any of those guys
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  Speaker 1: coming back?
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  Speaker 7: I have.
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  Speaker 3: They're they're all they're talking about it. Boso, Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 3: they're they're all. They're all on the fence like they're
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  Speaker 3: they're thinking, they're trending in a positive direction. And there's
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  Speaker 3: like five of them, Palmer Bosa, Spencer Brown, they're starting
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  Speaker 3: right tackle. I think to El Bernard, uh, those guys
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  Speaker 3: are gonna all be fifty to fifty and like my
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  Speaker 3: guess is like two of them will play in two
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  Speaker 3: of them won't, or you know something like that.
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  Speaker 2: So keep an eye on the weather. Yeah, because right now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so we're talking mid to low thirties precipitation, wintery mix
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  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be right about noon into the game.
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  Speaker 2: So don't know, you know, like earlier this, you know
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  Speaker 2: the week it was going to miss the game. Now
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  Speaker 2: it's moved up to the game, so we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: You just love that when game is going to be
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  Speaker 3: decided by a monsoon.
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  Speaker 2: Paul doesn't like that.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it.
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  Speaker 3: That's terribly Yeah, me too.
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  Speaker 1: But wasn't that too serious? Are you making fun of me?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm in agreement with you. If that's what
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  Speaker 3: your take is. Yeah, you don't want the divisions on
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  Speaker 3: the line and you're gonna like be in a monsoon
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  Speaker 3: and we worry about like.
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  Speaker 2: The more fundamentally sound team will win.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean no, probably. I just think it's going
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  Speaker 5: to be what quarterback makes the last play. That's what
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  Speaker 5: I think that It's gonna be that kind of game.
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  Speaker 5: Which guy steps.
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  Speaker 2: Up or which quarter make makes the worst play?
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  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, sure, but hopefully not that, but it is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I do think it's it's worth mentioning that.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Drake has and he has a need to,
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  Speaker 5: but he's had one game winning drive this year against Buffalo,
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  Speaker 5: so you haven't really seen him in a tight fourth
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  Speaker 5: quarter game, championship on the line, Like this is a
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  Speaker 5: really really big game for him in his development. And yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you just wonder coming out of the buy
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  Speaker 5: everyone's trumpeting, you know, Mike Rabeles seven and oh, I'm
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  Speaker 5: like six. I don't buy any of that, Like that
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  Speaker 5: doesn't matter at all. This is tight against certain teams.
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  Speaker 2: I think it matters just a little bit and does
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  Speaker 2: and here's why. Preparation. It shows that he has his
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  Speaker 2: team in the right mindset coming out of a break.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, like it was two and oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what's six? And oh, I mean that's a pattern. I
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  Speaker 2: agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a you know, it's not a
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  Speaker 1: big deal. I wouldn't say like Buffalo has no chance
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  Speaker 1: Mike rabel six and coming out of the bye. But
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  Speaker 1: I do think it speaks to exactly what Fred said,
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  Speaker 1: his ability to get his team ready and understanding the
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  Speaker 1: different situations that his team needs, and he's had his
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  Speaker 1: team ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think if you look at you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't have all of the you know, zero and six.
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  Speaker 4: And said that doesn't mean right. So it was Ryan
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: Tannehill is.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: No, but we'll show you that we can be a
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: little consistent. I think there was about a month ago
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: the Patriots went down to Tampa with Tampa coming off
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: the buy and and they're.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Doddy Bowles's name, Todd Bowles is.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: A terrible record coming off the bye, and they lost,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and we said that that was significant, and it turned
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: out that it was they weren't ready, really ready to play,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: you know, for the beginning of that game. I think
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: if you look at some of the better coaches, most
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: of them are pretty good coming out of the Andy Reid.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to bring up Andy Reid. Yeah, it's
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: like thirteen fourteen to know, to start his coaching.
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: I remember Bill getting that same love, and then all
• 15:28
  Speaker 5: of a sudden he stopped winning after the bye, Like
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: remember the Seattle game.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: It's almost like he was a really good coach for
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a long time and then wasn't.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: When did that start?
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: I think there was a streak of like the Seattle game,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: the Carolina game, the fans.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Will hate ball Bill snarky.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Taylor.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm not bringing this up to bash Bill, trust me.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: But in your one of your shows this morning, they
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: were talking about the sort of feeling of fas now
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: compared to when they were winning, you know, in the
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: yachts and everything like that in Courtney, and I kind
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: of agreed with her. One of the rare times she
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: said that she feels she felt and she was young then,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: so I don't know, like how relevant, but she feels
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: there's more joy now than there was then and in thets, yeah,
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: and no chance. Okay, so hear me out, don't interrupt,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: just I just let me finish. And and you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: and everybody's like jumped down her throat, you know, people
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: like that were older. Oh no, you're kidding me. Oh seven,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: we couldn't beat.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. I was thinking, oh one.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: But but but as they were talking about when we
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: were winning, like oh seven, oh you know all that four.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unmatched.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: But but I kind of agree with her point in this,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: like now it's like kind of almost innocent joy once
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: we started winning back then there was more. It was
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: more defiance blah and you know, fighting with people and
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: And fourteen sixteen, seventeen eight, like that's well, I would
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: agree with Courtney one hundred percent.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: But even earlier because and this is where I bring
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Belichick in at least, that we were programmed, don't don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: get too high, don't celebrate, you know, don't get caught celebrating,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: don't get don't write stuff that's too over the head,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: over the top, you know. And that was part of
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: the coach. The coach kind of set the culture that way,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: where it's it's always the next game.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I know, the larger point, you know what I mean.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I just think it's I would script. I would squabble
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: with the era. I think the one to three was
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: just unbridled excitement and joy. And when they won the
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in one it was like, I can't f
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and believe that my team just won the Super Bowl.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: That was the mindset for everybody. Now, if you want
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to say fourteen sixteen, you know, it's like kind of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the expectations, the entitlement, and didn't really enjoy it as
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: much as you should have. I would agree with you.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I think it was more about the expectations, like the
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: pressure on them in the back half of the dynasty.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: There's one game of the year that mattered, and it
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: was the Super Bowl, Like you either wanted or you lost.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I think that started at seven and Mike is right,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: it came off of the heels of spine.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: But I just think that there was a it was
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: almost a relief. Winning was a relief relief Yeah, yeah,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: because I agree with you versus winning being excited. I had,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: oh one was different.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: So that way, I kind of agree with her, Like
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: it's a little it's different now, at least right now
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: because it's all, you know, new again.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: They haven't lost, Like what are you gonna say bad?
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: We're having unexpected success right now, and it's more innocent
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: and and so they were jumping down a throat. But
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I was kind of siding with her a little.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, I would definitely side with her when it
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: came to like seventeen eighteen. I mean, all the stuff
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: that we saw in the documentary and that more relates,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I think to the team and just the yeah, like
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: the expectation.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Like the first the first part of the Dinosty, I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: would jump down the throw too. Oh no, no, this
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: is not anywhere near as like that.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Again, I stomped the field, in the field, the stands
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: in San Diego and six, and you will not find
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: a happier bunch of Patriot fans.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: I mean that was there was nothing, And then.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: The spygates started to get right, pushed everybody into a
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: corner and it became defend the wall and they all
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: hate us, and and it wasn't just Spygate, it was
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: also what happens to every team when you win a lot,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: is yeah, general sentiment is sick of it, and they
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: don't want to see you win anymore. They want to
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: see someone else now come to the top. And so
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I think that all kind of converged in O seven,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: when it's like, all right, this has been going on
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: for about five years.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Now we're over them.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: Plus they're doing this, and now they're and now they're
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: on an f you mission to everything, running the score up,
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: and you know, when things just snowball there to the
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: point where by.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: The time you got to eighteen nineteen, and I think
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I said it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: A few weeks ago, there was a lot of baggage
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: hanging over it. And yes, it was still Tom Brady
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: and we loved him and Bill Belichick and you know
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: all that he's a genius. But there's something just new
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: about this that and you know, unfortunately, because they haven't
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: lost in September, there isn't a lot of bad vibes.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Everybody's just this is amazing, and well Drake May is
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: the next thing.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And you know that's why to why Belichick part of this.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: We'll see if you know, this team ends up winning
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a super Bowl, whether it's this year or next year
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: or whatever, how they treat that, because even in one
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: in three and oh four, Paul, it was like, okay,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: we're on to next year. You know, there wasn't a
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lot of extended.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: But I think the excitement was.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Now I'm not talking about the fans. Well that's what
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: we're talking about, I know, but that's right now. I'm
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: not talking about fans. I'm talking about how Bill wanted
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it yeat and how Brady was.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, Brady was that way too after winning the
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl and saying on the plane ride back like
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: you know, the one's ever won four?
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: You know, like, yeah, that that's how they were. Will
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: they be that team again?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I mean I just looked to me the embodiment of
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: that whole mentality was Brady putting his hands on his
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: head with this I can't believe it one.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, everybody was the same way, like did this
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: just happen?
• 20:53
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: And that's why that one will always be special. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: love forty nine just because to Evan's point, you had
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: the expectations you already were at this point in it,
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: and for that game specifically, you had to go through
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: the ringer again of being like, here we go again,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: it's going to be another weird ass play that they
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: lose on and they just can't get back over the
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: humps since O four.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: You know, that's why four team was so special.
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I remember two thousand and one. I was very way
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: too young to be walking the streets of Bourbon Street
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: after the Patriots won the Super Bowl. But I just
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: remember my like the people that we were with, my
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: uncles and stuff, just screaming we shocked the world. We
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: shocked the world, like all over and over again, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: like that was that team was similar to this team.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I honestly feel that way, like in terms.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Of just I think there are.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Question you know, because that team didn't lose after losing
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to the Rams, right, that team won what ten in
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: a row, probably to win the Super Bowl. So I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: think there are some similarities there. And you know, second
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: year Brady, second year Drake May, you know, like was
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: running it all down last Yeah. Yeah, So I think
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: that's the feeling is pretty between a lot.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Mike and Flores says. I never agree with Paul, but
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think fans are worried about this game. We
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: could win and we could lose, but we're confident. It's
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: house money, and unless you're under the age of fifteen,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure there could be as much excitement as
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: having never been there before. I think we'll win Sunday.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But the twenty twenty five Patriots can win the Super
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Bowl even if we don't. Sure.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, that's I mean, that's true.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: It won't be the end of the world if they
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: if they lose this Buffalo game. But like I said,
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: now we're going to start to see a new some
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: new adversity for the Mike Vrabel and Drake May Patriots.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: And how do they respond to all?
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Right, now you're gonna have to go on the road
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: and the national audience again night game against Baltimore you
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: know it's it's tough.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And Justin says I agree with Courtney's take. I have
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to agree that there is more joy now. I don't
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: want to diminish what Bill did, and obviously the run
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: with Tom and Bill will never be replicated, but the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: energy is different. Right now. We have a coach that
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: brings a lot of energy and love to the Patriots
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: players and fan base. We have an explosive and fun
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: quarterback was loved by the public. The vibes right now
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: are immaculate. I'm twenty five, so these last few years
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: were the first time I've ever felt negative about watching
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: my Patriots. But this new regime has turned everything around
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: for the better.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: That's that's great context. He's twenty five.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Right, and that's what they were.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: So he's only talking about fourteen sixteen, and I would
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: agree with him. Yeah, he's right. This is way more
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: unbridled enthusiasm than you had the second part of the dynasty.
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: He wasn't there to experience the first part, right, I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: would say that that was more than this. This right
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: now is kind of what the previous emailer said, like
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: kind of dealing with house money. This is great. There's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of excitement in Old one. It was like,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: are they really doing this? This is unbelievable. And then
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: they went again, and they went again, like it was
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: just get on board. It was. It was amazing.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: By the time that they got to like go three,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the excitement for this team was unlike anything I'd ever
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: seen that. Like, they that team, the Old one, three
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and four supplanted the Red Sox and Fred and I
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: will tell you there was a time that no one
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: ever thought that would be possible. And at the same time,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox were going through it with the Yankees
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: in the height of the Red Sox Yankees thing. By
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: by oh five, oh six, the Patriots had supplanted the
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. Is the number one sheriff in town.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: There's an innocence to this team right now too. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: I think it's a lot of it's Drake, but just
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: you know, a young kid. He's very likable, you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: not a lot going on. He doesn't have you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: all kinds of crazy side gigs and commercials. You know,
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: he's just it's all kind of pretty easy right now,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: and it's only going to get more complicated, I feel like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: because that's just the nature of the beast and how
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: football works, and you know he's going to start to
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: grow and his star power is going to become a
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: bigger thing and all that. So I just trying to
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: enjoy these days where there aren't really expectations right now.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: But again, you have an opportunity this weekend that I
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: just he got to take advantage of these and that
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: I think should be the message from Mike Rabels that
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: you had an opportunity, but nothing else is guaranteed after
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: this opportunity, you know, and opportunities can go by the
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: wayside if you don't take advantage of them. So just
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: I would be sick to my stomach to see them,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: you know, have this come out of the by with
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: his opportunity and not see them reach the goals.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Is often the case.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: Fred.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say you were right and I was wrong,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: because there's no bigger Patriots fan than the one sittings
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: where I left right, and he feels exactly the way.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: He's already thinking about like what's he gonna do.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: What's gonna happen if it doesn't go like I looked
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: at it totally the honest You've got a young quarterback
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: who might win MVP. He ain't going anywhere the same
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: reason why I tell you that Kansas City and Buffalo
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: are always going to be threats to win the Super Bowl.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: You're a threat to, right, So.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: What's set up for the future now?
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: But you think if Josh, if Josh Allen Wills's team
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: to victory this weekend, is Drake may still the MVP favorite?
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: No, maybe not Josh Allen.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's the m v P favorite
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: right now. I don't know that, but I'm saying he's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a candidate. You have one of those guys now, right,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So as long as you have one of those like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is not an MVP candidate this year, he
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: gives Kansas City a chance to win the Super Bowl
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: every year. It's not gonna well for.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: The Chiefs extent. I was going to say, except it's.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Not going to happen for the Chiefs this year. But
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: everan again, I always point back to your nerd stats.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: They're not tell you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: The nerd stats keep telling me the Chiefs are going
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to turn it around, and.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Happened this year for whatever reason, but it ain't because
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of him. They will have a chance next year you
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: write them off at your peril.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Speaking of former MVP candidates, what's going on with Lamar Jackson.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I think he's just hurt.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, people run.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's study.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: He can't. Yeah, he can on to it's a can'.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: There's so many players with Lamar where you're so used
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: to watching him pull away from the rush and you
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: scramble or extend the play, and now he goes to
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: like accelerate and there's just the giddy up isn't there,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: and guys are catching him from behind and he's not
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: getting the sideline like he normally does.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Something last week when we were doing the picks, when
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: we did the Baltimore game, you said that you had
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like breaking new like you didn't practice it. Yeah, and
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: it was like the third different injury that prevented him
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: from practicing over the like the last six weeks or
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: something like that. Like, yeah, it happens.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: There's like so many plays. Yeah, Henry's been weird, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: it's like running into the back of his offensive lineman
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: and like not really like seeing it the way that
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: he was last year and for that offense. Yeah, but
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I think a lot of it they don't do as
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: much design quarterback around because Lamar's hurt, so that they
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: did a little bit more last week against Pittsburgh, but
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: that's fallen by the wayside, just to Tad. And then
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I would also say, like when you watch him drop
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: that pass, like you're so used to Lamar Jackson just
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: being the fastest guy on the field, and there are
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: times now where he's not the fastest guy on the field,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and it's I think it's hard for him because he's like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I normally get away from this dude, and now, you know,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: guys like are chasing me down from behind as I'm
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: trying to extend the play. You know what's kind of
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: He those if those questions for the panel.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: If those two teams missed the playoffs, which one would
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: you rather be this offseason to try to rebuild?
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: Whoo?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Why would you rather the city Baltimore? I'd still rather
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: be Kansas Baltimore.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I think Baltimore, well, I'd have to do a deeper
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: dive on the rosters, but I think they're both incredibly
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: talented teams. I think Baltimore probably has more talent.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I think this is the sneaky issue right now. That
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: nobody wants to talk about with Kansas City's at Andy
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Reid's seventy years old, and I'm not entirely sure. I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: not entirely sure how much Andy Reid has left in
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the tank. And like everybody, I agree for the most
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: part that as long as Patrick Mahomes is a Kansas
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: City chief, he's they're going to be a super Bowl favorite.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But what happens when they have to change head coaches?
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Because that that's coming. And I think, you know their offense,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: watching their offense, they don't put a ton of scheme
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: out there, like you're not like really looking at this offense, like, wow,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: what a well designed you know, this is such a
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: hard offense to defend it it's not. And I just
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: wonder how much of that is Andy Reid kind of
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: running out of steam.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So Houston knocked them off. Kansas City dangerous team, they're
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: they're like, I don't I don't even know if I
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: can call them a dark horse because they're playing so well.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: But they're a team that if you if you want
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: to get some better odds and vote and bet on
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: somebody winning the Super Bowl, I think Texans would be
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: a good, good value at.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: The whole, like, who do you root for when you
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: know in these out of town games. With that in mind,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: if I were a Patriot fan and I was keeping
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: track of that division, I would want Houston to keep winning,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: win the division. Yeah, I don't want to see them
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: in a wild card game. Like right now, the Patriots
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: would be the two seed. Houston would be the seventh seed.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: That's not ideal. That's not an ideal matchup in wild
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: card weekend, in the first round playoff game. Whereas if
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: they can keep winning and keep this momentum, at least
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they win the division, you wouldn't have to see them
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: until a little later on.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Do we have any updates on Philip Rivers tryout with
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the Colts.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Went well, well.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Listen, I could see bringing him in, you know, like
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: he knows. Oh my god, he probably held enough of
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: life in his head that you don't have to like,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: you know, get him up to speed, just put him
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: out there, let's play football.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It sounds like he's gonna it. Sounds like it would
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: be a backup, that they would still ll.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Be a backup and reset your Hall of Fame came.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I guess he has like some sort of connection with
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Riley Leonard that he's worked with in the past, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: so they feel like that maybe he could be like
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: a mentor type of influence on him during this whole thing.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: I've heard the the Houston thing a lot. Their offense
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: is not very good.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get that. You I guest you could
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: get into with them. I get that they look good
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: offensively in the first half of that game and then
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: they do.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had They've had a lot of issues, offensive
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: line issues, play calling issues, you know. Yeah, I don't know.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe Stroud gets hot. I could see that
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Nico Collins is a great player, but.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: See, I think Stroud is significantly better than Bo Nicks.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's why I could see that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: When you talk about those defenses, yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Be careful, right, Well, that's why I would put.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Defense coming back. I mean, he missed that time with
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a concussion. I still believe.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: I get it. I get I get why people talk
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: that way about the Texans. I still just really like
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the Patriots. In any game where they don't like, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: still feel like the way to beat the Patriots or
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the way that they get knocked off is in some
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: sort of shootout, like a classic Drake May Josh Allen
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: go twelve rounds and Josh Allen has the ball last,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: and it's just one of those types of games. I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: don't know if are twenty to seventeen rock fight with
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: the Texans, you know, is really the way they go down?
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: To me, it's I think I've said before, like I
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: view most of the league like is your defense good enough?
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: But there are a couple of defense I think that
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: are above that line and can actually dictate a game.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: I would put Houston's absolutely those two defenses seem like
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: they're going to be a you know, tough, tough.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Funny when I when I watch and I admittedly do
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: not watch those teams on a weekly basis, but when
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I watch Houston's defense, it seems to me to be
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: significantly better than Denvers. When I watch Denver's defense, Yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and I know they're both very good, Yeah, but they
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: got the pieces.
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I mean they both have, you know, good edge players,
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: good interior.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Me issue I'm looking at like Will Anderson and Deil
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Hunter at a different level than I am, like a
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Nick Benito.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, they've really been highlighted.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like the last well Will Anderson is Yeah,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Will Anderson is the real deal. Yeah, their metrics are weird.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Their pass rush metrics like aren't as good as you
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: would expect. And I was like kind of questioning life.
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: It's like sometimes in the defense, just like these guys
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: are controlling the.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Line of st numbers, the Broncos dominate, like the Aussos
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: might set a record for sacks, but I don't look
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: at them as being as ferocious as I do Houston.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: So I want to open it up to the fans
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: and listeners. But before we do that, Paul, any referee
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: moments or time clock management moments that really bothered you.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you last because you sort of alluded to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the fact that Joe Burrow was on the take in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the Bengals game.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I never said that. I never said I said right
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: up to the line and then stopped. So I just
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: said it was weird that he had two consecutives drive. Weird.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: The way that happened was the way you said it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: But nothing nothing to do with you know, your stuff.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: There needs to be an investigation on the Steelers officials
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: in that game that, as Joe Murray would say, that
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: was smelly, That was smelling.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: The Isaiah likely touched all of it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: The Isaiah to call on the on the field goal,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: which the NFL has admitted that was the wrong call.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: That call in the end zone, which I've never fifty
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: seven years of watching football, I've never heard the act
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: needed to make an act come into the game. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: then when asked to define that, it's a football move
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: common in all the game, that's fine, but an act
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: comment too the game. When asked to find what that
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: would be, the answer was a third step. I've never
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: heard a third step being required for.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: It was weird because he took like six steps, but
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: like they were like in quick succession, and he was
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: still like he had the ball, but the defender was
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: starting to try to pry the ball out and so
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: so it's like when I thought it was a touchdown too,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: but I could see if you're watching it full speed
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: versus watching it frame by frame. When you watch it
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: frame by frame, Monicalay, they held it the other way around.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: They fold speed. They called it a touchdown, and then reverse.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: When you saw it frame by frame, You're like, this
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: guy had the ball for ten minutes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But then when you watch it in real time
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: and it kind of comes out quick quicker.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: And then the other one in that same game, Rogers
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: gets a ball battered at the line and he jumps
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: up and puts two hands on it, and then the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: raven comes in and they're battling over the ball and
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Rogers goes to his knee as the guy's ripping out
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: of his hands, and they claim no third step, calm
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: and move comm into the game, move necessary. He's down
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: by contact with the ball in his hands, which if
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: he he had it in his hands while he was
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: down by contact, it was for a millisecond, and they
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: said that that's no no turnover like that game smelled
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: fred okay, smelly all right, as my buddy Joe Mury
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: likes to say, okay, okay. Now, I know everybody was
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: up in arms about the bronco Is Raiders game in
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: terms of the gambling aspect. That was the Raiders kick
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a field goals as time expired. Like, I don't know
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do there.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: To cover that spread.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That's a bad beat. That's a bad like my heart
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: goes out to my gambling brethren. I am not allowed
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: to do that sort of thing, so I didn't worry
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: about it, but he's trying to make it so this
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: he was lobbying for more time on the car. He's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: trying to kick the field goal and have the big
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: time left for a possible miracle.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: A touchdown on a nine side kick, right, That's the
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: only way it would have been able to But it
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: did make it a one score game, right, which you
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: know how these coaches are, well, we had eight one
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: score losses last year.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, somehow I think fill a hill
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Mary on that. I'm like, you would have felt better
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: if you lost on a hill, Mary instead of the field, Like,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: why would that make you feel better?
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: I did like that they covered the because it supports
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: my anti Broncos agenda. I know it was yeah, but
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I know, but you know, one score game.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I pictured the Raiders with the spread, So that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Was like the one that was like the one time
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: where I was like, you know what, Broncos, good for you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: You played a bad team and you kick their butts.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: There's here's some flowers. Good job he did. Didn't win
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: by one point?
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Eight five five Pats five hundred is the Hotline podcasts
• 36:41
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• 36:45
  Speaker 2: you engage with us during the show.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Did you have any referee things. I didn't really have
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: any clock management issues this week, none that really stood
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: out to me.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: No.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I thought the Bears did a really nice job. Actually,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: they got it very patient. I thought Ben Johnson V's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: boy was very patient, stuck with the run. Even in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the last two minutes. They moved and obviously had every
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: opportunity to tie the game. And Caleb his one bad throw,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: he just underthrew it. He had comet in the end zone.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: But they didn't run out of time, they didn't run
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: out of space, they didn't run out of plays. They
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: just didn't execute the last play. Yeah, that said Fred,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: good showing by your Bears at Lambeau. I thought they
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: were competed. I thought they were in trouble in that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: game throughout and just kept finding a way to get
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: back in the game. And uh yeah, Caleb was kind
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: of quiet for periods of the game. But man, did
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: he make some throws on that last stride.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: He can rip it, big packers.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: He has an amazing arm, but his propensity to like
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: scramble out and leave himself only half the field and
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: make the play as he goes to the sideline, that's
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: gonna wear out. That's a hard way to live. A
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: lot of his plays come that way.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: He has to get better at, you know, in structure
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: conventional offense. He's got some of the best highlight reel
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: throws of any quarterback in the NFL. But he's going
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to be consistently good. He's going to have to do
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: some of those.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I think he had two throws on that last drive
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that were just like, yeah.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Really agreed, he's quite a time shot maker.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: And then he under threw the big one because he
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: had him he did.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Can we talk a really quickly a little college football
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: minute here.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: For because.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: First of all, well, we can get to the playoff
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: if we want to.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: But this is uh talk about in the past.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: On Saturday night, for Nanda, Mendoza became the number one
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: pick in the draft, Like that's who that's over the
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Indiana's quarterback?
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Who was he?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Fred I did he gave me an opportion to I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I saw a little bit of that.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Good job, Douce, good job. I'm barring an absolute collapse
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: in the playoff, He's going to be the number one
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: overall pick, and I think that there could be multiple
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: teams trying to get him as the number one overall
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: pay you.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Know, because people were going to look at it and go, Wow,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: what Mary Indiana is so good and it's because of him,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: not just so good, like like really good.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Their head coach is fantastic.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Defense was unbelievable, but he is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: He's the real deal. I mean some of the throws
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: that he made down the stretch in that game in
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter where he seems smart and that's the
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: best defense in college football. Yeah, the fade ball at
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the end, that's a defense in the nation signet, that's
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: how you do it. Really good player.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: He's like a real cerebral guy too, So.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: A battle for him.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I say this only half in jest. Yes, would it
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: give you any pause to watch his postgame?
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, It's exactly what I texted Barth after the game
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: as I was watching him basically move to tears in
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: the postgame interview and act like a little bit of
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: a hard just He's got that little like nervous, like
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: geek energy, and I like it, but I also am like,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: we gotta have a little bit more Joe cool to us.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: You know, like I just texted my brother as soon
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: as it half. I said that interview would scare the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: bleep out of me.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: He will be asked about that in the draft. In
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: the draft process.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: He was really good.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: He's fantastic, He's really good.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: I was bummed out. He got lit up on like
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: his first pass attempt of the game. After we threw it,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: he got a hit. It was a clean hit and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he was down and I was like, Oh, you gotta
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: be kidding this like the game of the year one
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: versus two and he's going to be out. But he
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: only missed like one play. His brother came and his.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Brothers the backup.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Did he to come out of nowhere this year? I
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: don't really remember last year.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: No, last year, and I was a college football playoff
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: team as well, and really good program.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: But was he was he getting hyped for first overall
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: pick yet?
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know about first overall pick, but certainly part
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: of this quarterback class and has really kind of lapped
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: the field and uh, you know.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Most of those guys had down he did not.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Tulane and gmu getting in is just
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: an absolute travesty.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Like I have no issue with Tulane. I have no issue.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: If you want to have one of those, just say like,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: because you can't just exclude you know, half the country.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Yes you can.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But the rule that they put in that the five
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: highest rated conference champions are automatic is insane. There's no
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: And I love JM you your guy. You have your
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: holy Cross shaired on. Bob Chesney is the James Madison
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: coach who's now going to be going to UCLA. Good
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: for them, they had a great year. They don't belong.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Evan's exactly right, they're going to get boat raced, and
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: now you have two of those teams that are that
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: are kind of in that situation where they don't really belong.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why you set yourself up that way.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: No eighteen with eighteen playoff?
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: No?
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Or is that the twelve?
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, make all the good games
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: you want to, you know.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: But so again, there's four power conferences and then there's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the group of five. So I understand you don't want
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: to exclude like Boise State had a representative performance last year,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: they didn't get killed, and they were the group of five.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: So the best of the rest goes. I don't need
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: two the two best of the rest.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: But Boise if you just had picked the top twelve
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: teams in Boise State would have been in it last year.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe anyway, I don't think so.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: But I mean higher ranked than Tulane and JMU are yes,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: and so like maybe they were the sixteenth ranked team
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: in the country instead of the twelfth. But like, this
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: is a situation where there's a very real chance that
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: both those teams lose by like three or four touchdowns,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: and they're.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Especially James Madison. Well, at least Tulane played Old Miss
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and that game was a little bit closer than the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: score indicates. I think they get up like twenty two
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter to make it a real blowout.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: They have to play Old Miss again. Who knows what
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss is going to be?
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Like, I will say this though, I mean, you guys
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: know better than me. I mean, I know, was it
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Dan Lanning in Oregon seem pretty hard out, But I've
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: seen Chesney go into the was it the the FCS
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: I guess semi finals against South Dakota, who's always awesome.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: They were outmatched.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: They everyone was saying they're gonna get killed, and he
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: was just crazy aggressive. I mean and just going for
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: on site kicks right off the bat. I'm not saying
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: they're gonna win the game.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you're going to watch the game,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I hope you're right.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: They caution to the win and they're gonna have double
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: passes and all kinds of stuff.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: They're there for the first catch Dakota. But then they.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Played a couple of teams that were you know, they
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: played Washington State as an example, who's not exactly a power,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: and they were life and death with them. I think
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they won on the last second field goal. So I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: don't I don't see it, but I'm rooting for it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I hope it's a close game. I love the playoff.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I love the drama it creates. I was glued to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: that that drawing, and I just, you know, one of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: these years, Fred, I don't know, maybe maybe the breaks
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: will go Notre Dame's way on one of these times,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and maybe they'll get a break and they'll get a
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: playoff bid or something.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I wish it wasn't Notre Dame because I'm very big
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: on it should be the twelve best teams. Like, I
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: don't care what conference you're in. I don't care if
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: he won the Sun Belt, like I'm not, I don't care.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: It should just be the top twelve teams. But then
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: in order to have that take, I have to defend
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame, which I really hate, but like even BYU,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I think, okay, why it all?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: See this is because they do the way they do it,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: and they have these rankings come out the four or
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: five previous weeks, and they had Notre Dame ahead of BYU,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: who was ahead of Miami, and for some reason, that
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: eliminated the possibility of the committee comparing Miami a Notre Dame,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: which makes no sense to me. No one's explained that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to me as to why BYU losing in the Big
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: twelve championship game dropped them behind Miami and put Miami
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: now next to Notre Dame. So now they said, huh,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: those two teams played. They have like the same schedule
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: all year, and they played each other and Miami beat them.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: We're gonna put Miami over. I don't know why that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: had to happen before they ever compared those two teams.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: But Evan's right. Why BYU only lost Texas Texas twice
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: to Texas Tech. Why are they out right, that's not
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: I mean those could take or worse twice. Yeah, you know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and I listen, I don't think by us all that good.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: This is not necessarily would I would make an argument
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: more for like Vanderbilt or Texas, but I.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Don't get I would love to see Texas, but that
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: was because.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I think Texas was playing really well at the end
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of the year in Tennessee.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: And like, I just think it's all like which teams
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: have a legitimate chance to actually win the national championship?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: And I think I can make an argument that Notre
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Dame would. Yes, you can make an argument that Vanderbilt
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: could have made a run. I think you could make
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: an argument that Texas could have made a run. You
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: cannot make a run argument an argument for James Madison.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: All Right, we said we're going to briefly talk about college.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, ever, and I like, I'm so sorry that
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: college football on the bye.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Week that we talked about college.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Say that for catch twenty two.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure we will.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the phones. We'll go to
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Sam in Easton. What's up, Sam? Hey, guys, how you
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: doing good?
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Sam?
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah? I got a question for all you guys, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: then one for Paul if you let me have time here.
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: But are you guys all a little bit superstitious with football?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, I'm pretty superstitious in general. Yeah, so I
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: think we're.
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: On a collision course to play Buffalo in the playoffs.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: Do you feel better going into that playoff game having
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: swept Buffalo or split in the series with a guy
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: like Josh Allen?
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Now you have to beat him three times?
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Beat him?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked it up.
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: It's only happened twenty four times this nineteen seventy that
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: division opponent has swept another DIFFERENTI opponent, and most recently
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: was Philly beat.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: The Giants who stuck.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: So twenty four times out of how many opportunities, you
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 46:39
  Speaker 10: Like, I mean, it's.
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: Fifty six years though, you got to think it happens
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: at least one.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: But you're saying that they played three times in.
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: In one season counting a playoff game, right, like sweet?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: And it happened twenty four times one team had won
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: the previous two.
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, only twenty four times that's happened.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, So how many times did it happened where one
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: team won the previous two to.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, like, so twenty four times one team was two
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and zero in the regular season, then they played in
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: the game and.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: Won for this and they won, right, they won? They
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: guess the opponent three different times in one year.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's saying twenty four times they won three times,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: and I'm saying out of how many.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: No, he's saying three of twenty four pulled it off, right,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: that's what you're saying.
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: No, no, no, What I'm saying is to win three
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: division games. It's only happened twenty four times that a
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: team has swept their opponent, right, regular season and playoffs, right,
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: So it parts a lot.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right to me, that's a lot. Twenty four
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: times a team went three and ozero against the team.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And out of fifty six years, that's a lot.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that seems like a lot to I don't think though.
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of division matchups, and especially
• 47:47
  Speaker 7: with a guy of Josh Allen's caliber, I just don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: see him losing to us uh three times. I just
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: have a feeling we're going to lose this week and
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: then we're going to get them in the playoffs.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine, but I get that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, that doesn't fall into the superstition part to me.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: But I would rather be the team that won twice.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I'd rather Buffalo have a little doubt. Yeah, you know
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I'd have Buffalo come into that game like,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I think we're the better team, but they.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Beat us twe But remember the Jets, right, you hammered
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: him here like forty five.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: You didn't beat them, but you didn't beat them earlier.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Oh you did, you hammered him and then like four weeks.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So that's what I think he's talking about, Like teams
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that played three times. I can't imagine that there's been
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: twenty four to three and oh's right.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: He probably did.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: If you have a question, Yeah, what.
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: Why do you always think DJ Stroud is one of
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: the best TV's. I think he's a good player, but
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: One of the best quarterbacks.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah you do.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: I've never put him in the homes ally.
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: An excellent quarterback.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I think he I think he is a very good quarterback,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: but I don't put him in the best category with
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: mahomes about him.
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: That's that good I mean, I.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Don't think he's I think he's extremely accurate, extremely accurate. Yeah,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I think I think he's really good, Okay, but I don't.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I don't put him in the elite category with with Mahomes,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Alan Burrow, and I would put I'm gonna put me
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: in there now based on this season.
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: I would, but.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Stroud did this two years ago, and everybody's forgotten about
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Stroud better than Herbert. No, Stroud better than Herbert. No,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I don't put him in Herbert's category either, and people
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: will tell you Herbert stinks too.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's like three tiers of quarterbacks right now.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: There's like my second tiers, Okay, so I don't know
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: if I like, there's like the S tier, which is Alan, Mahomes,
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Lamar Burrow. I think that those four, I mean, Drake's
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: knocking on the on the club of the door, but
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: those four are then it's the next tier I think
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: is Stafford Drake, Like, maybe do you put Stroud in there?
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: I would put Herbert Herberts, and I would put Stroud
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: as long as Stroud's healthy. I think that that concussion.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: That I don't think Stroud's as good as May.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Uh right, now, he's not right, it's not as mobile as.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the two and three tier gets murky because then
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: you also have to like.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: The same player too. I mean, like, I don't I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: don't put Stroud in the elite category. I don't put
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: May there yet either, Right.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: No, that's fine. There's only four in that well.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's the club Danny's and Daytona.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: What's up, Danny?
• 50:35
  Speaker 11: Can you guys hear me?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:38
  Speaker 11: He so, I had a couple of takes. I know
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: you guys have been seeing it's been crazy around the
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: league with all the news. But I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: get straight to the Patriots. So when I heard a
• 50:50
  Speaker 11: lot of Paul's guys, a lot of your guys are
• 50:52
  Speaker 11: talking about some points that you guys talk for the
• 50:54
  Speaker 11: bye week about.
• 50:57
  Speaker 10: The run game.
• 50:58
  Speaker 11: I think the two deficiencies which I brought up last call.
• 51:01
  Speaker 11: I called you all a week ago with Bearringer that
• 51:04
  Speaker 11: a lot of people are talking about him though he's
• 51:06
  Speaker 11: growing some heat. Did you know the that's gonna be
• 51:08
  Speaker 11: that field of advantage where he's shanking punts. I see
• 51:12
  Speaker 11: that happening coming again this coming week. He's probably gonna
• 51:15
  Speaker 11: shank a couple of punts that'll screw us over, and
• 51:18
  Speaker 11: then the run game it's just uh. I was gonna
• 51:22
  Speaker 11: bring on a point to Evan's point that I think
• 51:25
  Speaker 11: that this season they're just gonna have to bandage it
• 51:28
  Speaker 11: for the rest of the season and going into the playoffs.
• 51:31
  Speaker 11: They don't have that dynamic line that you know that
• 51:34
  Speaker 11: we were used to through the Brady you know, the
• 51:37
  Speaker 11: the latter part of the Dynasty where they had Cannon
• 51:40
  Speaker 11: and you know, and Andrews and stuff like that. So
• 51:44
  Speaker 11: they don't have that dynamic fullback. They're just kind of
• 51:47
  Speaker 11: throwing random guys back there to block. So I think
• 51:50
  Speaker 11: the run game is gonna be what it is until
• 51:53
  Speaker 11: we can actually get the full pieces next season. So
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: I think Mike's just gonna have to Mike and Josh
• 51:58
  Speaker 11: are just gonna have to glue it and make it work. Yeah,
• 52:01
  Speaker 11: I just don't see the run game working right.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not as I'm not worried about the run game
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: outside of situational running, Like when it's third and one,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: you got to be able to pick up a yard.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: When you're on the goal line, you got to be
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: able to punch the ball in their passing game is
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: so good that I don't think they need this like
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: great running game between the twenties. But situationally, they have
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: to be better. They have to be better in goal
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: to go. They have to be better in third and short.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: You know, they're almost as good in third and long
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: as they are in third and short because they're third
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: and short package. They don't run the ball well. So
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: they got to figure that out. Hopefully getting Toanga back.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: That's what I was going to say yesterday practice. A
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: couple guys back out there.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tonga was limited, but he was out there, so hopefully,
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: you know, he comes back. Maybe they run Drake more
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: once the games get more, the stakes get higher in
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: some of these bigger games, maybe his legs become a
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: factor more in some of these short yardage type of situations.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: But I'm not too concerned that they can't run it,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: you know between the twenties forty times a game, like
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: they can throw it forty times a game.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Brett writes in he says, if the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Eagles don't make the AFC Conference game, aj Brown is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: a Patriot next year, bet love Rabel heartbroken that he
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: didn't get traded to the drafted by the Patriots. Rabel
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: didn't approve of trading him to the Titans. Patriots have
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: a great track record of getting the last best bits
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: of older wide receivers and Josh F n McDaniels, I
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: know the contract stuff is a hurtle, but nothing is
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: impossible when it comes to getting deals done. AJ Brown
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: reunites with an amazing head coach and an OC that
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: he wanted to play under coming out of the draft,
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and aj gets to leave his stamp on getting the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Patriots their seventh Lombardi next season.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I don't like that talk, right.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Am I wrong to be a little bit worried about
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Aj Brown?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: He had then he well he had a lot of
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: your honest but he had a lot of drops last
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: night too.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: He just doesn't look the same.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: He runs all that well. But I'd be I'd be
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: interested in that kind of a I see what Evan's
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I would be interested in it because it's it's sam
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: kind of like when they signed Digs. Like, if it
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: works out, then you're gonna get a great AJ Brown
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: season and it's worth it. But he's been part of
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: the problem in Philly. He's been as much a part
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: of the problem as Jalen Hurts in a lot of ways.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: And like last night, Jalen Hurts could not have thrown
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: that ball any better for that touchdown that would have
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: won the game at the end of the game, and
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: he dropped it. He fled out dropping it. Yeah, I
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: mean he literally put it right on his hands, like,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: could not have thrown anybody.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: You picked right? Yes, thereafter?
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Do you want me to clear up the Division three
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: time thing? So there's been twenty four total instances of
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: that happening. Teams that are going for three and zero
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: are fifteen and nine, which is actually pretty pretty good.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: And I thought pretty good.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, because so if you're better, if you've won the
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: first two, yeah, and chances are you're going to win
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: all three if you if you're the better team.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: We do have breaking news about Grampa Rivers. He he
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: is indeed signing with the Colts. Okay, forty four year
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: old Philip Rivers is signing with the Indianapolis Colts to
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: their practice squad though, so this is designed to be
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: a backup for now, but the practice squad.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Wow, So that does not reset his Hall of Fame
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: not yeah, which was everybody was very concerned about But
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: are we sure Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not either, and everybody's acting like we're gonna take
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: them off.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Today's like the Hall of Fame children production.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: I would say Jeremiah says, I disagree with Mike. Mike
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: is a great guy and an all time Boston podcaster,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: but he is overreacting a bit about what I don't know.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Drake was able to out Superhero Allen last time, and
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: he has been playing at an MVP level all season.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: The only way Mike Mike's scenario comes to fruition. What's
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: your scenario that I think Josh gets the MVP probably
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: is if Drake completely falls on his face, which I'm.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: Not banking on. Yeah, no, that's not But that's not true.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: The only way the Bills can win is if Drake
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: falls on his face.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: No MVP for Josh Allen.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's true. Like Drake has toast face.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: That's what he said. You don't have to agree with him.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: But do you think that, I mean, forget me. Do
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: you think that he has to.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: No, I think has to fall apart right now. I
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: think at this moment in time, I think Josh Allen
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: is ahead of him by a helmet because the Bills
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: aren't that great, their defense isn't playing that well, and
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have a lot of weapons, not that Drake has,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: you know, Randy Mawson, Ron Gronkowski, but I think Josh
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Allen's putting that team more on his shoulders than Drake lately.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Now let's see down the stretch.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you think Josh Allen's ahead of Drake and the
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: MVP right now.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: At this moment, I don't, oh no, but I.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Think he could be if if he goes four straight
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: wins and finishes the season like he played on Sunday,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: And that's that's different. The level of play weak. But
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: right now it's a two.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Horse That's when you enter the chat.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, is a two horse race right now. Stafford and
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: Drake may like Josh Allen is a Stafford Like when
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: you look at the betting odds, it's like those two
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: guys and then like a huge gap to the to
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen at three. I don't know how much it
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: moved after Sunday, but I think really the only thing
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: that that is holding Drake back over Stafford is the touch.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: I just said. You know, I think Sunday did tip
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: the skills a little bit because the only reason the
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: Bills won was Josh Allen.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Or Christian Benford, Joe Burrow.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I think what he was he was the
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: X factor. Uh spiing Fresno. Some Evan comparisons, Uh more
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: of a Homer Fred or Evan. It's more of a
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Homer right?
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Oh me?
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: Well, I think Evan's dedicated to the game more than
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: the tough one.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I forgive.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: That's some more thoughts, Okay, more petulant and huffey Paul
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: or Evan.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Usually sometimes.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I don't like. I don't like. I don't like where
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: this email is gone.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: If it's X and it's Evan, if it's Patriots fans, Paul.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I get, but Evan gets petulant.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: More of a Haardo Andy or Evan? Oh Andy Andy,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: More condescending Eric or Evan Evan again depends on the
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: subject tonality issue, you do. But I don't think Evan
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: cares about how edinblow is pronounced. But when it comes
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: to X.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: And he guards football and Drake like it's you know.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: More of a ball. No where Evan Orlovsky.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Danielevsky played in the NFL, so I'm going to give
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: it to Dan.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: So you're asking who actually knows more ball?
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: You know, you can't step out of the end zone.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Who would win one on one basketball, Evan or Barth.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's not close. If you are I have, he's
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: gonna even play high school sports. I think you are
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: so meany, I think that that is. This is something
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: that is not even close.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: And Evans around saying he could hit an NBA three
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: right like.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Easily, no doubt.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Have you ever attempted an NBA three?
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  Speaker 4: No, it seems like it's two miles away.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that far.
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  Speaker 1: It's just outside of like the comfortable like Westlake range. Yeah, totally,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, you can make them.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the thing that like, no, no, no, everybody
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  Speaker 4: So we're in an NBA game.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, was that like Marcus Camby or something?
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  Speaker 4: Really was that like the Marcus Camby years? Like the nineties?
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  Speaker 9: Karen, Mike, you played Buffalo last week five lead and
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  Speaker 9: how much has changed since then? Or is that film
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  Speaker 9: for that game still viable for you?
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  Speaker 6: Well?
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  Speaker 14: And I think it's always viable. There's a lot that's changed,
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  Speaker 14: but I think you can kind of see some of
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  Speaker 14: the you know, play styles, matchups, you know, things that
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  Speaker 14: they you know, they may come back to, or things
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  Speaker 14: that we need to be more prepared for and then
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  Speaker 14: you know kind of use that as a place to
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  Speaker 14: kind of go from. And then you know, again some
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  Speaker 14: of the things that they've done really well, I'm sure
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  Speaker 14: they'll continue to do and add wrinkles, and.
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  Speaker 6: You know, it's a great challenge.
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  Speaker 8: Like you emphasize with T shirt this week for each
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  Speaker 8: I don't use the hatt T shirt like we're just
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  Speaker 8: trying to play for the championship that we have available
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  Speaker 8: this week, and I think it's.
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  Speaker 14: A great a testament to our players that put us
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  Speaker 14: in this position to be able to do that. And again,
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  Speaker 14: that's not going to be easy. This is a very
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  Speaker 14: good football team. There's a reason that they've won this
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  Speaker 14: division five years in a row. A lot of respect
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 14: for him. You know, they're never out of it, never down,
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  Speaker 14: and they may be down and just like last week,
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  Speaker 14: you know, it's a football team that understands that you know,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 14: somebody is going to make a play and then they
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  Speaker 14: you know the quarterback is going to give them a
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  Speaker 14: chance to the very end.
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  Speaker 6: You're six and oho is.
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  Speaker 15: A head coach coming off the bat with you understanding
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  Speaker 15: that it's different years, different teams, different votes.
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  Speaker 1: All that are there are any sort of commonalities when
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: it comes to player focus.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I think that you know, and these guys have
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 14: played well, and you know that's the most important thing,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 14: is focusing on what we can realistically try to improve
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  Speaker 14: and it kind of enhance the stuff that we've been doing.
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  Speaker 6: Okay with what we'll try to.
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  Speaker 14: Do today and you know, I know these guys got
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  Speaker 14: some some rest and much needed rest and you know,
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  Speaker 14: but we've got to crank this thing back up.
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  Speaker 1: It's in the bicycle in the year, do you learn
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit about yourself self scaled as the things.
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  Speaker 9: That you look back on.
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  Speaker 11: This more?
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  Speaker 9: Uh?
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  Speaker 14: I mean, I think you kind of know by the
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  Speaker 14: way that the season is going, but you know, it's
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  Speaker 14: always a good time to take a take a look
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  Speaker 14: at you know, what you've done and what they're looking
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 14: at analytically and try to you know, figure some of
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  Speaker 14: that out and and or just say, hey, we're we're
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  Speaker 14: this is a staple of who we are and this
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  Speaker 14: is what we're going to do and you know, try
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  Speaker 14: to be good at it.
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  Speaker 3: Like you mentioned, sard of Buye that you're expecting some
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  Speaker 3: players back after this week.
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  Speaker 9: Do you have me injury updates on the SPECI players.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, some of those guys made practice today. I think
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  Speaker 14: for sure Wednesday, you know, some of those guys that
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  Speaker 14: weren't available, and we'll kind of just see where they're
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  Speaker 14: at today. But I think will be okay come Wednesday.
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  Speaker 7: My teams line along rookies and ship what grade in
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  Speaker 7: the three draft process that you brought.
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  Speaker 10: Into solved group?
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  Speaker 11: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 14: I think we'll get into player evaluation and scouting and
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  Speaker 14: principles and all that stuff later, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I think you just you have to rely on.
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  Speaker 14: Uh, you know, young guys at your draft. Hopefully you know,
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  Speaker 14: you can develop them and have them ready. You know,
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  Speaker 14: some of them have played a larger role than others,
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  Speaker 14: and some of them were kind of coming on and
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  Speaker 14: you know that they understand their role, that they have
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  Speaker 14: confidence and continue to improve.
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  Speaker 6: I think buying large group has done that well. We'll need,
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  Speaker 6: you know, a lot of.
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  Speaker 14: A lot more from them as we move on as
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  Speaker 14: we can, especially this week, you know, and then we
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  Speaker 14: can talk about, you know, how we target players and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 14: things like that later, mirror experience as.
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  Speaker 6: That player and the coach red zone offense.
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  Speaker 13: What are some of the common threads you've seen over
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 13: the years, that make a successful red zone offense other
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 13: than obvious scoring touchdowns, like what.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you have to have positive plays.
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  Speaker 14: You can't go backwards, you can't have penalties that derail drives.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 14: Precision is critical, you know precision is critical that you
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  Speaker 14: know space is limited. Things happen so much quicker down there,
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  Speaker 14: So well, we'll have to score and turn those opportunities
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  Speaker 14: into touchdowns, and we'll have to do a better job
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  Speaker 14: defensively when they do get down there.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, when Drake was first draft, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: comparisons made to Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's kind of played out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see that being more similar or dissimilar in how.
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  Speaker 4: They approach the game.
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  Speaker 14: I think they're both really good at what they do.
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  Speaker 14: You know, Josh probably got a couple of LB's on
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  Speaker 14: them and can kind of throw his his shoulder, and
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  Speaker 14: they're probably a little bit more that I would rather.
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  Speaker 6: Want Drake to But I think they're both great competitors.
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  Speaker 14: I think they're uh, you know, a lot of respect
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 14: for Josh and just his ability to make something out
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 14: of nothing. I've enjoyed watching Drake's growth here, but I'm
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 14: not going to say one's certain way and one the other.
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  Speaker 14: I just huge challenge going against the quarterback that's under control,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 14: he's got command, and just he doesn't look panicked or rattled.
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  Speaker 14: And when you rush them or gets them into the
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  Speaker 14: right play call and whatever, that be just a excellent
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 14: you know, obviously MVP quarterbacks like.
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  Speaker 4: You guys are playing for a division championship this weekend.
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  Speaker 8: I'm curious, though, you refer to your players, both.
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  Speaker 2: Of us and then with them after the game one day,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: as champions or you know, you competed like champions champions
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  Speaker 2: and are satisfied.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Why why use that word when referring to your teeth.
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  Speaker 6: I think you're probably just reading too much into it.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: You guys got too much time since the last time
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  Speaker 6: we talked. I don't know, I apologize.
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  Speaker 14: I could call them something else, but then you guys
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  Speaker 14: would yell at me for using that language.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 10: Like there's a bit of a weird one.
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  Speaker 1: But coming out of the by doing something kind of
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: league wide on the trend of teams posting after a
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  Speaker 1: win that.
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  Speaker 6: Since you first became a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Legit, like, has it changed your mindset at all?
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  Speaker 8: Like going in there knowing that fans are going to
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  Speaker 8: see everything you do and say.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they don't.
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  Speaker 14: I mean we I get the final say on it,
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  Speaker 14: you know what I mean, Like Stretch can edit that
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  Speaker 14: to make it look as good as you want.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's Here's what I do.
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  Speaker 14: I think that our content team does a fantastic job
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  Speaker 14: and the content teams across the league to bring our
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  Speaker 14: fans really great access something that's inside the locker room
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  Speaker 14: as quickly as they can get that turned around, and.
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  Speaker 6: So I appreciate what they do. I think it's fantastic.
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  Speaker 14: You know, I don't give it much thought until I
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  Speaker 14: need to start thinking about it because I don't want to, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, look ridiculous. I'm glad that they've given me plenty
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  Speaker 6: of opportunities.
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  Speaker 14: To have some excitement in there that That's what I
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  Speaker 14: appreciate the most is from the players giving us an opportunity,
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  Speaker 14: and then the content team to continue to deliver really
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  Speaker 14: authentic content to our fans.
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  Speaker 7: You just do you watch any other coaches and they
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  Speaker 7: do it?
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  Speaker 14: Uh No, I mean I'm not taking my shirt off.
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  Speaker 14: I can promise you that, No, I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not practiced in the office.
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  Speaker 1: Coaches might not care if the fans have access to
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 11: Why is it if.
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  Speaker 8: Worn't to for the fans to have with the coach.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, this is you know, we we're in entertainment business.
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  Speaker 14: We we we that's it's a large part of what
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  Speaker 14: we do.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 14: I think that that's important that our fans have some
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  Speaker 14: connection to our team to be able to come out
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  Speaker 14: here to training camp starting you know, in July.
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  Speaker 6: I think that's important. I think it's important that that
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  Speaker 6: our fans can come into the stadium and watch a scrimmage.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's important that again they have.
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  Speaker 14: Things to cheer about on Sundays and when we play.
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  Speaker 14: I think it's important that they see our players in
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  Speaker 14: the community that not only as as players, but but
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 14: men trying to make a difference in trying to make
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  Speaker 14: it impact and help. So the more that we can
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  Speaker 14: do and the more that we can share with our fans,
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my blanket. I wish I had it now.
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  Speaker 2: it looks terrible and we lose handily? That would change
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  Speaker 2: it for me little There is a strong argument to
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  Speaker 2: be made the bills. Look us took us lightly back
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  Speaker 2: in September. They won't do that again. Are we prepared
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: for the fallout if we lose by seventeen points and
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: it was never competitive?
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: Oh see, I'm yeah, but that could happen, right, But
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, then, what like what what actually changes?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Do you do you like not think Drake may is
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: that good now?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: But if that happens, If that happens, according to this person,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: it proves the point that maybe they were taking us
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: lightly and we weren't really that good.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: So what it would tell me is that maybe they
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: are a little bit ahead of schedule, and maybe they're not,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: Like you know, they're a team that's a that has
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: eleven wins. They're not an eleven win team. That could
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: be true. Maybe maybe they're just they're not quite ready
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: to be a super Bowl contender yet. But I don't
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: care what happens Sunday. I'm not going to change my
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: belief that this team is on the track of being
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: a super.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Bowl And your point is you should be just as
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: excited about this team because they are set up for
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: the future.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: And I would chalk it up personally as one bad game.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: When you've won ten in a row, you doe for
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: a bad game.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: It could happen, But I want the bad game to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: come against like the Jets.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: No, Fred, You're right, you do. I'm not dismissing the
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: guy's fears, because if they got manhandled by Buffalo, you
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: could easily make the argument that, well, this is what
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: happens when the other team doesn't turn it over three
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: times and they don't commit eleven penalties, you'll lose. You know,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: that could happen. I'm not going to dismiss that, but
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: I just okay, so maybe Buffalo is better than you,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: but what other teams in the AFC have suddenly gotten
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: better than you because Buffalo plays.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: I think fans dread the idea of having to defend
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: their team against your people. If that happens.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: That's and that part I agree with you on, because
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: they care more about that than what's actually important. There's
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: also defending the wall is by far the most important
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: thing for any self respect.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: Eleven game win streaking you can just sit or ten
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: game was streaking you can sit there, and.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: That cross right of Paul's keys here.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: But I think there's always also an element two of
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: these of these games. Generally speaking, you get down who
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: needs it more? Who needs this game more?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: You know? I think that's a.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: More desperate team.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: Bills are a little bit more desperate, and that I
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: think gives them, you know, a little bit of I
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: don't say an edge in the game, but it just
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: it gives them some motivation.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: I want to pound them.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know if the Bills are more desperate.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I think they kind of give up the division. I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: think they're just trying to hear what you win, well,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: they have to win. Like the last four and they'll
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: But yeah, beating Pittsburgh and Cincinnati like they're going to
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: That alleviated some of the pressure there.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: So now it's do they really feel, you know, like
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: they're the I think the more pressure now, the difference
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: between I guess maybe a little bit of Week five
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: and what now, Like the pressure now is on the Patriots,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: Like the Patriots are the ones that are trying to
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: close it. That's the hardest thing to do, close the deal.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: It's like when you're up in a in a series
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: three to two and you got to close it out
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: in game six. That's the hardest game to win.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, press a little little tight like.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: The Bills right now, I think are kind of like
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: we'll get into the dance. We have Josh Allen com Boston,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: see what happens.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: Well that's and that's I was so impressed with how
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: this team came out on Monday Night football against the Giants,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: just the energy they showed. And if they come out
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: with that kind of energy again and they look sharp
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: out of the gate, then I'm all in on your
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 5: Rabel gets the team ready to go after the bye
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 5: week stuff. That would really impress me. You know, just
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: any team coming off of bye you're a little bit weary.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: Are they going to be a little little sloppy? Bills
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: are coming off of needing their best football down the stretch.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: So I do feel like there are some trends, you know,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: other than just the bye week stuff, like the Bills
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: on the road have not been the same team as
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: they have been at home this year and three yeah,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: they're averaging ten game points a game less on the
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: road than they are at home. I would say the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: other thing, you know that really supports the Patriots to
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: me in this game, this Bill's defense is not the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: same Bills defense that it's been really since McDermott got there,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: they've been a very good defense. Defense right now is
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: a twenty second in Dvoa. Their their middle of the
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: pack to even bottom half of the league defense. They
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: have injuries. You know, Ed Oliver is not going to
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: play in this game. I will see about Joey Bosa
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: to al Bernard probably not gonna play. So I think
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: their defense is about as weak as it's ever been,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: and I think Allen's weapons are about as weak as
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: they've ever been.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: No question about definitely cook.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: He cooks great, and Shakers good and Kincaid's good. But
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: they they don't have they don't have the weapons they
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: used to have.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: The goal line fumbles.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is his week.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: The Bills have been in which is why the Patriots
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: are winning the division at the moment, Like this is
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: the week as weak as they've been since Allen has
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: become Jos Deeffert.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is an opportunity.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: To Mike's point, Ryan in Vegas subject line hypocritical Evan.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Evan just used the same argument to diminish the Broncos
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: win against the Raiders that he was freaking out last
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: week about people using against the Patriots Regarding weak opponents,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: the ease of the Patriots' schedule is relevant and a
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: concern for when they go against some more talented teams.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: We should be excited, but we are riding too high
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: and it feels similar to mac Jones's first year. And
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Fred is right to be concerned about potentially being brought
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: back to reality this weekend. Either way, they've shown a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: lot to be excited about the future. I'm not concerned
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: about it. I'm concerned that fans are concerned about it.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Also, when we were talking about the Broncos and the Raiders.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I was joking. I was being facetious for you, as
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: they say the other thing. What was the other thing
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: that he said in the email? I was going to say,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: and on.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: The schedule has been a factor. So this is you
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: know he said, he said the thing about the twenty
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: one competitors.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was it. I don't think this is anything
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: like twenty one because I think Drake is so much
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: better than mac Jones that I don't think that this
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: is really comparable to twenty one. There's a lot of
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: roots that are similar around the quarterback in terms of,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: you know, you hit on a bunch of free agents,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: you know, have a good draft, you know that sort
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: of thing. But you have one quarterback that was a
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: passenger in twenty twenty one, and you have another that's
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: the favorite to win the.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: MVP driving the ship.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah lord, Yeah, But I.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: Will say nothing is going to change necessarily. Well I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say nothing. I don't think my view of this
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: team will change much Sunday if they lose. But I
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: reserved the right to change my mind after the following
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: three games, you know, like, you know, the first loss
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: in twenty one wasn't like the end of the world.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: But when they follow it up with whatever they lost, like,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: would they lose for to the last six? I think
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: they were they were nine and four.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: And the finish Buffalo five.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they were nine and four and they finished
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: ten and seven. Yeah, the last four, the last three
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: and four in the last I mean, I'm sorry, one
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: and three in the last four and then they lost
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: in the player and.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: Their only one was against the Urban Meyer Jaguars interim
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: coach situation. Uh.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Colin has an apology for Evan mayu Is King on Twitter.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: Here Is that a big account? Mayus King?
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know who.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: I want to personally thank Evan for speaking the truth
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: about bow Knicks and the Broncos last week. I'm sorry
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: for unleashing the Broncos fanhounds on him by posting the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: clip on Twitter, but it needed to be heard for
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: an actual question. I want to ask if you guys
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: feel the same about the Texans. I don't think CJ.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: Stroud is good, but they have an even scarier defense
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: and at least they have a road game experience. Paul
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: would disagree. You thinks c J. Stroud is good.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I think he's good, And I said he's not a lead.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: So that's exactly the opposite one here. What I would
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: say that, you know, I also think more of bow
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Knicks than Evan does.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: How you could take more of bo Nicks than me.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: I love the guy, but you're gonna get clipped again.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Their offenses are not scary in both cases, the Texans
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: and the Broncos. The reason why their defense is, you know,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: like that's how they play. They they play rock fights.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: So to Evan's point, I like Jerry Drake May's chances
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: in a rock fight because he doesn't have to do
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: something he's never done, is like light it up.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: Bonnix seems like he's got some stones.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: He does. Yeah, I think he went thirty two for
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: thirty eight the other day. But you know they didn't
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: score all that lot. He only scored seventeen points.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: I said, that was the one time I was like,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: I'm really spaceything. Yeah, it was one time. I'll give him.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: They played great. They played well in that game.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Paul in the colony rights in do you think this
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: is a bad spot for the Bills. We're coming off
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: the bye, they're playing for the eighth straight week, including
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: their third game out of four on the road.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think it's the best spot for them.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: It's a better spot for the Patriots. Yeah, I would
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: say they're they're a lot healthier, and they arrested coming
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: off a bye, and like Evan said just two seconds ago,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: like they've had big games, they've you know, they've had
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: to crank it up. So yeah, it's a fast for
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: the Patriots.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: Their road home road thing is real, and that's one
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: of the few you know, we're talking about homefield of hand.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: Just I do really think that that playing there is
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: a home field advantage in Buffalo because that fan base
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: is just absolutely insane, and I think that that I
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason, and they're scoring like thirty four game
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: at home, so I I, you know, I think that
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: that's a big part of it. The other thing I
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: wanted to say about the email about the Drake made
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: the Broncos thing, the Patriots being like relevant again in
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: the NFL ether has put this on my map more
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: than maybe before. The amount of bitching that goes on
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: on social media between fan bases and ours included like
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not we're not crid of this, okay.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: And I imagine your timeline.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: It is like you say this every Monday, friend, I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: say this with all the love in my heart. Please
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: go touch grass, like, go do something else. Evan, tell
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: me the amount of just like back and forth. No,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: my team's the best. No, my team's the best. No,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: your quarterback stings. No, your like Jesus Christ. People, that's fair.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: You're hearing it right now. I made the mistake of
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: happened to think a little bit more than most of C. J. Stroud.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: There's been about five different guys that commented on it.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: But that's the beauty, because.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of football. You know, one game a week.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: So during the week, the fans take over and it's
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth, and then your team
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: either goes and proves you right or wrong.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: But this is we're talking about, like the the amount
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: of volume of tweets that come through that are just
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: rage baiting the other another team or an And you know,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: I said on on Sunday that the Bills survived against
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: the Bengals because they had needed a fourth quarter comeback
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: by double digits to survive. And I'm still getting attacked
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: by Bill's mafia and everybody here thinks that I am
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: a Bills fan. I'm the one that's like getting and
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: then the Broncos fans of the week before. It's like
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: calm down.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Of so many of these fan bases.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Well, they confused it with Barth because Barth thinks Josh
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: Allen stinks. I'm not.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: And I'm also not trying to act like Patriots fans
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: are perfect because they're not nervous.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: I think the windows closed. They think Josh Allen's great,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: but the windows closed.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: So when this game, when the Patriots win the division
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: this week, I don't want to hear you crowing. Why
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: not because they didn't beat anybody of any value.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: No, you think that's how we gets you. We forced
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: them to stink.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: We're not supposed to tell him that Mike.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: Thought about Darius and Louisville. This is a PSA to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: all callers. Please know what you're going to say before
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: you call. Like, come on, guys, Fred makes you wait
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: thirty forty five minutes at least, that's plenty of time
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: to get your words together and come up with a question. Anyway,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: I think Josh Allen will try to put on a
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: Superman cape take over the game. Hopefully we have a
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: legit plan to stop him without Milton Williams.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: I mean those, like I said, those plays where he
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: just takes it into his own hands and does He's
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: hard to get down.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 4: He's a big dude. He's not afraid the lower shoulder
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: and barrel over. Yet that's such a big part of
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: I feel like figuring out how not to get burned
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: by him on third down where he just.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: I'm cautiously optimistic that they will have a good plan
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: against him because when you watch their offense, it's very predictable.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: They ran like the same five plays over and over again,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: and I just when you have this much time to
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: prepare for an opponent, you have a really good coaching
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: staff with Vrabel and Josh McDaniels. I just have a
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: lot of faith in them saying we're not going to
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: get run on forty five times like Pittsburgh did. And
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: when it's third down, we know they're going to run Mesh,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: So we're just gonna have something ready for that, and
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have a spy on Allen because him extending
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: to play on third down deuce is really what separates him.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: You know that a Cleo Sekurit touchdown last week was
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: just ridiculous. So like those types of plays you can't
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: have happened. But you know, like they they run the
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: you know, they ran that tight end pop pass like
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: four or five times against the Bengals for chunk chunk,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: chunk chunk, and it's like the guard is its clearly
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: not pulling up field and the Bengals linebackers are just
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: flying downhill like it's a run play. I just I
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: think there's a couple of ten in sies and things.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: I really like the Patriots corners against the Bills receivers.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: I think there's a chance that the Patriots cornerback trio
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: could actually really limit this bangalo, this Bills receiving group.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I don't really know. I think you
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: can even get creative in some ways about how you
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: defend them, because like it's gonna be like Keon Coleman
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: or Shievers or Gabe Davis, Like you're gonna need to
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: put Gonzo on one of those guys, right, Like you know,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: maybe you put Carlon Davis finally covers a tight end,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: maybe like does he get kincaid in this game on
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: third down. You know, Shakira's the guy in the slot,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: but like it just it feels like an offense that
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: is basically just like James Cook or Josh Allen doing
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: something unbelievable.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, the tight ends. Like you said,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the phones. Eight five to five pats
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: five hundred. Mychael is in Vermont. What's up, Michael?
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 10: Well? Two questions. One, the coach were able to watch
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 10: the game Sunday to take notes?
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: He said, he watched a little bit, yeah.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 10: And two will they go back and watch the game
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 10: from this past summer to take notes and see what
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 10: they need to work on?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: I hope.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: So you mean the week five game? Yes, yeah, yeah,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: sure he.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: Said that too. He said, you know, things do change
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: between now and then, but you know he'll look at
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: what they were doing and what kind of matchups they
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: were looking for, and you know, also acknowledging that things
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: are going to be different. You know, they'll put twists
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: on what they did.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah, I think the biggest thing, you know, from
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: an offense standpoint, Patriots offense for some reason that no
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: one's really been able to explain, the Bills just started
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: blitzing like crazy in the second half and week five,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 3: and Drake may just tore him apart. So I don't know,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: if if I had a guess, I think they go
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: the total opposite direct and it's a lot of like
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: seven and eight man coverages and try to make him
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: sit there and read it out and that sort of thing.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: They started heating him up in the game in Week
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: five and he just torched them.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: I think that they will start that way and then
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: if the Patriots have success offensively, that's what they can
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: expect to see later in the game. That's the Bills
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: pattern is when we get desperate, we're just gonna come
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: after you. Yeah, And then they got to hope that
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: Drake isn't perfect like he was in that second half.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Right, Francisco, the Great Francisco is in North Carolina. What's up, Francisco?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 16: Hey, what's going on?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: Guys? Hey?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 15: So, I mean it's been a little bit, you know
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 15: where just can't be pretty busy and everyone, you know,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 15: everyone seems like they're email and calling in nervous. I'm
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 15: excited for this league. I mean, we're finally I think
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 15: this is it's not necessarily the first time we're gonna be.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Able to see it.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 15: But this is this is like a meaningful, meaningful game.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 16: This is gonna be their first opportunity to go and
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 16: place the division early, you know, and it's gonna be
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 16: the first like to show if they can do it
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 16: and or if they could just do it their first.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 15: Time being able to sure and then you know, second off,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 15: I want.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 16: To just go ahead and say, you know, last.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 15: Time we talked, I was talking about how, you know,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 15: like me seeing the Chiefs you know, fall, and it's.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 16: Not because I'm scared of them or nothing. I'm having
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 16: a great time in life right now.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 15: Just seeing them lose, I.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: Just sure I might not let Yeah, seeing who the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Bills lose the Chiefs. Oh yeah, I mean I'm really
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: enjoying because last couple of weeks we've been able to
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: watch some football Sundays and stuff they hate watching is
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: just that fun.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Day they fell so far I didn't even watch because
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: they're just so boring.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: By the way, a week from this Sunday we'll be
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: able to watch a little Sunday football too, because the
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Patriots have been flexed into a primetime game from one o'clock.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: So the Ravens game will now be Sunday Night Football.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Correct last year were being flexed out of uh primetime games.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: I get a kick out of the Eagles losing to
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: you and their fan base.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: It turns on them so hard, like it's getting up.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Nobody hates I heard that that locker room must be
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: you were talking about that the radio they have the rabbit,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: the positivity rabbit.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: That was not a that was real.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: You know. It's like they were talking about like the
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: fan bases. Well, that's all fan bases know. The Eagles.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Fans hate their team.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they make it a streets fans hate everybody else. Yeah,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: they're there. It's almost comical now, a caricature.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: It's so weird because they that Like that game last
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: night was weird, Like they ran the ball for once,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: which they haven't really been able to do.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: I thought when Barkley broke that touchdown the game was.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: They they they pressured Herbert like crazy. It was under pressure,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: like over sixty percent. Yeah, and that's like their formula
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: and they still lost the game.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Beginning of the game, it was kind of reading and
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: like kind of listening and every time it was like
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: how many turnovers did they have in the first half
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: both teams.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: There's three three each in the first half.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the doubles.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: There was there was three on one play a fumble
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: another was crazy.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: There was five total fumbles in an indoor game. Like
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: it's not like there was rain or snow or they
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: fumbled the ball five times in a don't.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: And that Eagles guy he flirted with it that the return.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah Covey there, yeah, oh yeah, yeah he had he
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: had one flat fumble and then he bobbled one as
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: he was running. You got face masks on that play. Yeah,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: But more officiating at its highest level.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: The hate watching is is a lot of fun. Yeah,
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: And I was watching Bill's Bengals and you're just chilling
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: him for the Bengals and like it. And then you're
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: watching you know, Raiders Broncos, and I just obviously that
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: was easy for me to hate watch that one. And
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: then yeah, the Raiders the Chiefs at night and it
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: was just like all of it is just love it,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: great good stuff. Uh.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Nick is writing in I got to help him. We
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: all have to help out Nick. He's going to the
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: game on Sunday, He's driving up from Ohio. First of all,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: need a place to take the wife for crab cakes
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: in Foxborough. Crabcakes is a Maryland thing. You know, you
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: watch if you want good fish, Okay, but don't go
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: looking for crab cakes. You're not going to find them
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: in Foxborough.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: Now, probably get those illegal seafood though, if you want
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 5: to find illegal.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if they serve crab cakes. Honestly,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 2: I really don't think so. But if you're looking, particularly
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: in Foxborough for fish, I mean, Davio's is a steak place,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: but they have good high you know, really good fish dishes,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: skip jobs stuff No longer that's closed up. So if
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: you're looking for that, go to Davio's and Patriot Place,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: So there's a legal seafood in Tetum so.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's not too far.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: You go there.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: Legal seafood is really good.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: If you like clam chowder, they've got excellent clam chowder. Yeah. Second,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: do you like that wildcut cat stuff we saw last game?
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: The trickery.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: I love that we're known for being a team who
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: was great at fundamentals, but I would like to see
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: the trick plays open up as we need them to.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: Prediction Harold Landry two sacks Patriots thirty two, twenty eight
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: not a practice.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Oh you want me to comment on the wildcat.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: I figured that would be an opportunity. Evan didn't care
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: for that.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: I don't care for any of it. Why do you
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: think they just trying something different. They tried to unbalanced
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: line too worked once, didn't work the other time. They
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: flipped Vederian Lowe played tight end next to Morgan Moses,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: and they put Austin Hooper at left tackle on balance line.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Move it over. They're trying to find something that they
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: can run the ball in short yardage. That that's obvious.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: I just the reason why I don't personally like the
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: wildcat is because I think every single time the ball
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: is out of ten's hands, it's bad. Like anytime Drake
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: may is not involved in the play offensively, that is
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: a bad play to the offense.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: That used to be the whole thing with Brady. Why
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: would you do that?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: I get it like every once in a while, but
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: like what the pressure that he puts on the defense,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: even if he's just standing there and handing the ball off,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: is still more than directly snapping the football to the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: running back.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: So just Brendan and Edmonton Evan telling people to touch
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: grass is hilarious considered, he's no remotelawn in his life exactly.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: That's how bad it's fine in the streets, the Twitter,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: the social media streets. The Broncos fans versus the Patriots
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: fans versus the Bills fans is it's literally like the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: scene and uh An Anchorman where they all like do
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: the you get the fight and Brick stabs the guy
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: with the trident. That is what is happening. But with
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: all these fans and we're all arriving and we're like
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: the news teams here and then we're fighting each other,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: but we're fighting each other on keyboards like it just.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: Like none of that exists for social media.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 5: Like when you guys are covering this team in the nineties,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: like how did you interact with other teams fans.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: Although they had went to the game and.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: Got yelled at them, they had forums, so through the media,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: somebody said something to the press like, but you weren't
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: going at other fans directly unless you were physically at
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 5: a game.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: And those three fan bases Bills, Patriots, Broncos. Right now,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: you got to be careful out there, like you say
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: anything that's even remotely negative about the Bills or the
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: Broncos right now, typical Patriots fan everybody.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: Else but days not even just negative about a team
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: if you say something positive about a different team.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: Than the Patriots. Looked out below.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: After Jordan calls himself the most boring Patriots fan in
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: the world.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 4: I think it's gonna say, I've listened.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: To the show for a few years and I'm the
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: biggest fan, although I think over this season, Mike has
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: assumed the role of the Debbie Downer snarky character in
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: place of Paul, who has been overly positive this season
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: and able to recognize the team is heading in a
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: positive direction. I don't know what happened to the happy, jolly,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Hollywood Mike we've all come to know and love. Maybe
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: he's spending too much time with Paul on the postgame
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: show and Paul snark has rubbed off on him. Either way,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: this podcast is the only is only big enough for
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: one Debbie Downer. Uh, time for an old timey Western showdown,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: Time for your punctuation. Jordan is absolutely terrible. Okay. I
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: don't know if you're doing that on purpose or but
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: it's horrible. The fact that I got through the email
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: the way I did is a credit to me.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: Fred's a very good copy editor, so it's a credit.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: To me as Fred. I would just like to say,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Mike is what Fred is talking about at the top
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: of the show. Mike is a Patriot fan that Fred
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: is talking about. You're always a little bit, very little worried. Yeah,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: worry that it's not going to be this good. It's
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: not always going to be this good. That's kind of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: why you didn't like the twelve and four pages, right,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: because you were always waiting for it to end at
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: some point in the recesses of your mind.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 5: It was different then I but hey, I I think
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 5: I opened the show was saying how excited I was
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 5: for this game and that it's amazing that they.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: Have ant and you went into the show by saying
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: if they lose, you're going to jump off a cliff.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to make sure your pants are still on.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: I was looking to lose.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: Josh Ana will be the MVP and the Patriots will
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 5: make the playoffs, and I'm gonna go cry into my
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 5: big pillow at home.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: And I do get like my reputation being a Debbie Downer.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: I understand why people say that and think that, but
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've been overly positive this year.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you what is happening. Yeah, And the last
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: couple of years I've been taken as Debbie Downer, but
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: I was also telling you what was happening. So when
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: they're going out there and you're telling me about all
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: these one score losses the last three years, I'm not
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: here for that. Like I'm not trying to put lipstick
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: on it because it wasn't there. And this year they
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of one score wins and I'm not
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: telling you this is a fluke. When you're eleven and two,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: I don't need the yeah butt like tell you everything,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: just trying to tell you what I think is happening.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 5: I think the interesting thing to me, Paul, having worked
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 5: with you for a little while now, is that is
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 5: that you you see the vibes are high with this team,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 5: and that's not usually your thing, And you're more than
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 5: willing to acknowledge that there's something good in the locker
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 5: right now. And I'm not saying it's completely unique to
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: the Patriots. Other teams have good vibes too, But that's
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: just something that I think is is not always. You know,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: we make fun of it. We talk about Santa Claus
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 5: and building a team, and I like making.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Fun of it. If Mac Jones was still the quarterback
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: and they weren't doing anything offensively.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: But everybody likes each other.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: You know, if Jacoby Brissett was the quarterback and everybody
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: loved each other, I wouldn't be talented talking to you
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: about the vibes. But when you have a quarterback who's
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: leading the way, playing at an exceptionally high level, and
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: then you have great vibes, that's when you become dangerous.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: I would say the opposite's going on right now in Baltimore.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: You have an MVP caliber quarterback who's not healthy, and
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: the team appears to me to be kind of disinterested
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: when you watch them play, like those are bad vibes
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: and you can see it. That's how a really talented
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: team is six and seven.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: Travis and West Virginia has a little James Cook fun fact.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: A Bill Week fun fact from your funniest emailer. James
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: Cook's full name is James Dalvin Cook and his brother's
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: name is Dalvin James Cook.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: I think I knew that and tj Okay.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: I think James Cook's better than Dalvin Cooking and Dalvin
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: Cook and it was good. He's good for a while
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: for a while in Minnesota. But I think James Cook.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 4: Is running poor.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Delvin Cook's career ended when he went to the Jets.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, James Cook's good player.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 4: I remember being concerned about that, not afraid, but concerned.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, you were definitely afraid of their run game.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: That's how that that's going to be the Bills down
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: the stretch. There can be under center. They're to run
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: the play action, move the pocket, third down, Let Josh
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Allen be Josh all Yeah.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Fourth down if necessary, that's it.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: Jacking and Abba. More than once, Evan is opined that
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: only Boston has really good fish restaurants.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't say that.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: You didn't.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 4: No, it doesn't seem like you.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: Notwithstanding that Evan is a fish snob, I can see
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: that Boston has superb seafood. Nevertheless, there are good fish
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: restaurants in other parts of the country, including Michigan. Michigan
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: has fresh caught steelhead, trout and walleye, which are served
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: in local restaurants within one day of being caught.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're landlocked.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: No seafood.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, trout is good if it's made right.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: But that's a tricky fish to eat, you know. It's
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: it's really bony and everything.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: A Great Lakes fact Michigan.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: That yeah, I know you don't connect to an ocean.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, technically they are land They're pretty big.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: I actually every year when we go down to Mobile, Alabama,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: we go to the Senior Bowl. Great fish down there,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: all the cold stuff, right, Yeah, I love the stuff
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: down there.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 5: I'm weird because like I like fish and chips in
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: a restaurant, but I will not eat fish at home.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 4: Like we'll like cook salmon at home, and I'm.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: Like really like, I'll go to a restaurant and I'll
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 5: have some salmon.
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: I'll have that's your favorite? No fish, yeah, oh, I
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: guess fish fish. My favorite is sword fish.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: Cooking yourself, like I don't I don't like cooking myself.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: Go to this because I have the seafood market right
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: down the street. You get the big filet that are
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: like together, you cut them in half, butter big filets.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: You put them on the grill. Frustace caught my meal
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: maybe once in my life.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: I figured that you've done that all I'm shucking.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: You never shocked shuckings hoot an oyster guy. It's fun.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: I see that. That's more of my like oysters, shrimp, scallops,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: that type of shell muscles.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love shellfish too.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you an impost or something myself shucking them off. Yeah,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: you never shocked before.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: They're shocked.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 5: My mom and Dawn shucked during Thanksgiving and they're always like,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: you're gonna have some oysters, right, and I'm like, no,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 5: I'm good, and they seem so excited that there's more oysters.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: Oyster shucking is you got to sneak up on them really, yeah,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: so you know you.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: Don't want to.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: Charge, they'll tighten up, so you got to kind of
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: be a little bit. It's kind of like under and
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: then get that knife.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: And this cigar category for you know guys, like I
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: watch guys golfing all the time and they all have
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: the cigars going like there just looks like such a
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: great that's a great vibe. And I don't do clam bake. No,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: that to me is right there too, like that seems awesome.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: I just don't really like seafood that seems like an
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: awesome time, like a clam bake.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 3: So good.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: I love the smell of cigars, Like my dad would
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 5: always smoke a star when we go to high school
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 5: football agains when I was a kid. So the smell
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 5: of cigars smoked to me is like football.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: But I can't smoke cigars like they just can't.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know how I like them, but I haven't.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: I've kind of dropped off smoking them. Yeah, I used
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: to have like a humidor and all that, and of
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: course you did, Yeah, but I I the taste afterwards
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: in your mouth.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: It tastes like it smells to me, like I just
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: love like honestly.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: Like one of my favorite things is when I'm making
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 5: the trudge from out and Spooky World in for a
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: game and there's tailgating going on, and I just get
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: a whiff of grill and cigar smoke and that, and
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: I'm like tailgate like.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: I got an You guys, you want the Patriots clinching
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: scenarios this weekend? Oh yes, sure, okay, this is a
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: playoff spot yep or division win. That's the only way
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: they can clinch the division. Beat the Bills, you clinch
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: the division. They can clinch a playoff. Berth six different ways.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: I don't care, six different ways different, so uh, they can. Actually,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: it's probably the easiest way to clean clinch is to
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: win or tie. If they tie, and uh, the Chargers lose,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: or the Texans lose, or the Colts lose, or the
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: Jaguars lose and the Patriots tie the Bills, they would
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: also clinch a playoff birth, not the division, but a birth.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: Are all those games still going on in the one pan?
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Are there any scenarios where they can lose and clinch?
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: He said tie.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: I believe Houston loss or tie plus Indie loss or tie,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: as long as both games don't end in a tie.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: That's why I don't care. Popsicle Head, you asked the question, Well,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: but I agree with Fred.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: Now, are all those games in the one PM hours?
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: That's a good question we get in the postgame show
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 5: chance that we you know, I don't know the answer
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 5: to that question.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: We were so negative loss. The post game show is
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: going to be a hat and T shirt show. Fred's
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: going to bring them back, comes down to joint.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: That's a good idea.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: If I can do it, I will rape, He'll do
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: it for us.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see this is gonna be another one
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: of those examples he's asking for.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: That's a great idea, I remember, you know, for when
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: you're winning seventeen of these in a nineteen year span,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 3: buy the a f C East stuff like.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: Fred and I have worked with for many, many years,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Carol Hardy, she buys everyone. Yeah, but now now it's
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: different every step of the way.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 3: Now it's I didn't even buy the AFC Championship stuff,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: so so here I thought it was a jan This
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: this goes back to.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: One when they won the AFC Championship and you know,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: it'd been a while and our pro shop was just
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: not ready, you know, like they just couldn't take the orders.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: And I said, you know, I've got people calling and
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: they want this stuff, Like why can't we get it
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: to them? We don't have enough computers. I said, let's
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: rent computers. So literally we went and rented computers, put
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: the software on it, got part time people to sit
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: at the computers and take the orders.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: Those are super Bowl swag, Like after they won, there
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 5: was an AFC Championship chap.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: So my point is super Bowl wasn't even consider like
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: people were so just happy to get the AC championship.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: Like that gear flew. They flew. Now you know, fast
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: forward to like seven, you know it wouldn't because oh,
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: we've got our site set on the super Bowl. I'm
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: saving my money until that stuff comes out. But back
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: in one, that AFC championship gear was hot.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: Oh well, it was really cool as leather, like a
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: leather brim one, you know, one, and it was like
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: it was like white and red, a FC red, and
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 3: then the brim was like leather, and the like front
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: of the hat was leather too, like, so it was
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: like kind of like a like a two toned hat.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that. That's incorrect. I remember the Super Bowl,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: that's correct, you, Evan. I have the hat a FC championship.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: Two thousand and one, a FC title game, Yeah, championship hat.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I don't have it, so I don't have it. I
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: don't think I remember the blue hat for the Super Bowl.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: I had look that up.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's pleather.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know the let was in the equation.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: I thought it was your white pony.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was the white hat.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just said white white bass hat read obviously
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 3: for the a FC title game. And then the brim
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: and the brim of the hat is different material might
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: have been right.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the brim yeah, okay maybe yes, you two
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: kids could. Yeah, it's been a while.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: It was like seven year old Evan over there, hundred
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: like I had a pick career.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 3: I got a little Super Bowl thirty six pin on
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: my Super Bowl thirty six champions hat. And it was
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 3: a little thirty six pin that I got at the
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 3: game itself.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: Some people, I never bought any of this championships.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 5: So the onlies champion thing I ever went out and
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: got was a Bruins Stanley Cup Remember those Stanley Cup hats.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: I had to get that.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: A white hat, yes, yeah, yeah, that was it.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 5: So that front was leathery, leathery, leathery that like leather
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 5: with Jason's Okay, leathery like that on TV.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the hats that they came out with
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: really were terrible.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: That hat was nice, but when I thought it was
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 3: nicer than the Super Bowl hat, honestly, I agree, I.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Think you may have gotten I agreed, huh, I think
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: we may have gotten those. I don't remember.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: I'll bring them in, but.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: We rented computers and put part time people in front
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: of them just to keep up with the orders.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: I want Fred walk in, a bunch of hats on
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 5: his hand, doughnut in the other hand, plops down there.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Let's go, chance.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: I wanted. This is the first time, maybe since so one,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: that I actually care about. I kind of want it.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: I want the hat. I want to win. I want
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: to shake it up.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: The gogles. You go over on your side, side chest
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: bomb over here.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 4: What's going on?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Let's go.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he's getting himself all worked up.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: I'm ready.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 5: I'm ready, baby, I'm gonna be all hopped up on
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 5: diet Cokes and Mountain de Let's go back.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: To the phones. Eight five five pets, five hundred Boston Cream.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: What's up.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 10: All the fans out there that don't believe in the Patriots?
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 15: Your record is yo, you are who your record.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 6: Says you are.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 7: Wow, I butchered that.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 10: Uh. And then just one thing, Christian in l A.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 15: If you got all the money that you say you do,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 15: let's take out a billboard near Highmark Stadium.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 7: After we get our hats and T shirts, and let's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 7: rub it in their face.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I want to wait until afterwards,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: but yeah, okay, thanks.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: I mean after you actually win the division.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: No, until we actually win the super Bowl.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 3: But they do it just for winning the division.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: I know, because they on super Bowls.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: They don't know anything about winning again.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: We might still have to play them in the playoffs,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: so let's run. Yeah, let's wait until we beat them
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: But then you know, they see we'll think it from
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: the fear thing that he's telling everybody not to do,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to do that. They might beat
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: it from the playoffs.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: That wasn't for that billboard.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give the bulletin board material literally, right, Uh,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: Sean's and Vancouver, what's up, Sean?
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 17: I agree with Francisco about Kansas City, and I'm sticking
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 17: with my check. I feel even stronger than what I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 17: said last month that the Chiefs could miss the playoffs,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 17: and I think Houston Paul is going to win that division,
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 17: so we'll be good there. And in terms of the billboard,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 17: I'd love it when the Patriots win their next Super
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 17: Bowl if we could put up a billboard near Hammark
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 17: Stadium or whatever. Then you want will be called the
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 17: super Bowl ring and it says this is what.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 7: It looks like.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 17: We got five more, and.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that, we have six more. Okay. I
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: like the one that someone suggested last week. I think
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: is the billboard should say we'll take it from that.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: I thought somebody else made that.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: I thought that's good too.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take it from here.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: Is this the.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: Biggest Patriots home game since? If we're being nice, I
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: think that.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: I think Brady Tampa Bay when he came back.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's pretty good.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: But that's a good one.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 4: But for like superficial reasons, like.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty one, they hosted Buffalo in Week sixteen, and
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: they technically.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: It's probably the biggest game since then.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: We're in play to win the division. But yeah, the
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: Brady one, I didn't even think of that one, because
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: it's that's different question I thought about justin Herbert, do
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: you think that? I mean, I know he's really banged up.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 5: Was under durest last night, but we talked a lot
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: about Drake having opportunity this year without maybe Lamar or
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, et cetera. Mahomes, do you think maybe this
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 5: is Herbert's time to shine or are they two banged up?
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that they look like a very
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: good team.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: Their defense played really well, and their defense has played
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 3: pretty well, and.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: I mean they have talent. I think that's a I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: think that's a formidable team if they're relatively healthy. But
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you can't survive with one hand and getting
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: comedy sixty one sixty something sixty's right. That game was scary.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you they let's face it, I give them
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: all the credit in the world for finding a way
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: to win the game. The other team turned it over
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: five times, like let's not make any mistakes as to how.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: You one of them went like multiple went like right
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: off guys hands and to the other team.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 5: I would just feel the same way I feel right
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: now if I'm a Chargers fan of like, there might
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 5: be an opportunity here this year, and this is you know,
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 5: Herbert's kind of been waiting in the wings, just slightly
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 5: behind those guys. I mean, at early point in his
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 5: career was almost in flirting with that conversation.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: But I mean, you guys are right, it's it's.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: Did you see him running last night? And then as
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: he would be getting tackled. He'd have the ball in
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: his in his right hand, him his right hand and
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: he would go down like this, like with his like
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: he was deathly afraid of having that hit. He had
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: surgery Monday.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: The fumble that when he was stripsacked was because he
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: could only carry the ball in one hand, right, so
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: the guy came in and he couldn't put the other
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: hand on the ball, just his hand.
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was totally intentional. Yeah, I mean, you know,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: I know it's gamesmanship and all that, but I also worry,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: literally they would be better if they protected themselves each other, Yeah,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: protected each other, the players.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 3: I do worry a little bit about Jim Harbaugh too,
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: very conservative, like and I understand that was the kind
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: of game it was last night, and maybe you know,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 3: your defense was probably playing a little bit better than
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: your offense, but like, do you win in the playoffs
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 3: like that, like just.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: Five for five on field goals? Yeah, like it just
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: and he was very fortunate to win the game.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: And he's one of those guys like he just he
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 3: doesn't really have a very many aggressive bones in.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: Herbert and Harbaugh a lot of credit for still being
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: in it, because I would have thought about a month ago.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: You know, they went to Jacksonville and looked like they
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: didn't even belong in the field with the Jaguars. The Jaguars,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: who I think are okay, I think they're good, but
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: I don't certainly put the Jaguars in this conversation with
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: teams that you're looking to avoid. You know, the Jaguars
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: are good, they didn't even belong in the field with
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: them that day, and that's because of all the personnel
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: they're missing. Let's call it like it is. I mean,
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: I give I give them credit for keeping it together,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: and they're going to make the playoffs and they'll have
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: a shot. That's the game last night. I think that
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: eliminated the Chiefs. Yeah it was the Chargers.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the division. That division is interesting to me. Just
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: how's it going to go down with those teams? AC Western?
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: You just have to collapse, I think for the Chiefs
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: to make a.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: Alec in Berlin via the South Shore US Mareen, thank
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: you for the service anything, Matt. Ever, since I teased
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: Evan about misusing NFL stats to pick his games as
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: one possibility for your offul record, he's been a tick
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: better with his picks. Not fred level, of course, but
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: better a workshop.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: On quantitative Thursday.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: Uh oh, a workshop on quantitative methodology and methods would
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: still do him a world of good. Don't let yourself
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: proclaimed poor math skills hold you back. I look forward
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: to hearing either an Andy esque pissed off responsor and
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: Eric like Winge.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 4: Why don't you help me? Why are you helping him?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 2: Come dear Mike, stop second and third guessing yourself. Be
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: confident with your picks. You've chalked up your about the
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: picks as a third three legged chair. Turn that into
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: a three legged.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 4: Stool of self confidence.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Morrell, thanks for the T shirt, the shirt
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: offer I've sent in my address here in Germany. Thanks
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: a lot, simplified.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like I probably don't. I'd go too much
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: with my gut on the picks and not enough with
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 3: the numbers. If we're being honest, I have too many.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: I'm becoming friend, I have too many, Like you know,
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  Speaker 3: teams I hate, and so I just like hate. Picking
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  Speaker 3: them comes complicated. Yeah, it's too I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: the numbers at all. Honestly, I don't think I put
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  Speaker 3: that much the fun schemes, hatred hatreds up there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it flowing.
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  Speaker 1: Uh okay, all right, you little John.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 9: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: We got three Okay, now I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call it. So
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  Speaker 2: we're back tomorrow at noon catch twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Two tomorrow ten two hours of college football.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I wouldn't be advertising that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just kidding, you kidding want people to listen. Alex
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  Speaker 3: is on the opposite side of this argument, though, because
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  Speaker 3: he wants the most deserving teams.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know, why play the season if we're just
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  Speaker 3: gonna But.
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  Speaker 2: His definition of deserving is probably different than you.
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  Speaker 3: He's very happy that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't think James Madison belongs in right.
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  Speaker 6: He thinks.
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  Speaker 1: He's saying James Madison belongs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they deserve.
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  Speaker 1: Oh they that's foolish.
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  Speaker 4: Summarily dismissed.
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