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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am off site today, as they say, I'm at
- 0:02Speaker 1: the KRACK and Hockey Network studios which were formerly the
- 0:07Speaker 1: Root Studios, no longer the Root studios because Route no
- 0:11Speaker 1: longer exists. All the side still out front. Just kind
- 0:14Speaker 1: of odd and just sad as well. But we are
- 0:17Speaker 1: here getting ready for the game tonight four thirty pre
- 0:19Speaker 1: game on TV four thirty pre game on the radio
- 0:21Speaker 1: with the Captain Mike Bett at five o'clock dropping the buck.
- 0:23Speaker 1: So I'm out here today and tomorrow Dallas Knight Saint
- 0:26Speaker 1: Louis tomorrow. Andrews is back to the studio since I
- 0:28Speaker 1: can't see anybody, is just back.
- 0:30Speaker 2: To Oh yeah, I am back in action. Let's go.
- 0:33Speaker 1: All right, a lot of illness going around. You feel
- 0:35Speaker 1: all right?
- 0:35Speaker 3: We all good?
- 0:36Speaker 1: I've been good.
- 0:37Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that was an interesting never have happened before
- 0:41Speaker 4: sort of thing.
- 0:42Speaker 2: And I am good to go.
- 0:43Speaker 1: I'm in the I'm in like staying away from my
- 0:45Speaker 1: wife right now. She's been six since last Friday. Just yeah,
- 0:49Speaker 1: we're yes, son and I are like staying far, far
- 0:54Speaker 1: far away far.
- 0:55Speaker 2: It's that season, right season.
- 0:58Speaker 3: She's one of those people too.
- 1:00Speaker 1: He's a tough lady, but man, when she gets sick.
- 1:02Speaker 1: It's like not half assed, man, it's all yeah, we're
- 1:04Speaker 1: all in. I don't know if you guys know, Like
- 1:06Speaker 1: it's like anders I think said COVID twelve times? Is
- 1:08Speaker 1: that right?
- 1:09Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit more?
- 1:10Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, like.
- 1:12Speaker 1: It felt like when COVID because you started during COVID,
- 1:14Speaker 1: didn't you with us?
- 1:15Speaker 5: I did?
- 1:15Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and then you got COVID like every other week,
- 1:19Speaker 1: and like.
- 1:20Speaker 6: It's a little exaggeration, but yeah, I'm not sure who's
- 1:23Speaker 6: had it more.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I'm jinxing myself. God, this is stupid. I'm not sure
- 1:26Speaker 1: who had more, you or perhaps Jackson, Yeah, he's But.
- 1:31Speaker 6: It's funny for the guys who come into the studio
- 1:33Speaker 6: every day that kind of you know, end up getting
- 1:36Speaker 6: contracting that stuff and can't do stuff from home.
- 1:38Speaker 1: But although although in fairness, I was in studio every day,
- 1:42Speaker 1: yeah during that time, good job, good for you every
- 1:44Speaker 1: single day.
- 1:45Speaker 5: Excellent.
- 1:45Speaker 1: There's like three of us. But but yeah, well, I'm
- 1:49Speaker 1: just it is that time of the year. Everyone's kind
- 1:51Speaker 1: of banged up and sick and what have you.
- 1:52Speaker 3: So away we go.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a fun show coming up today one
- 1:56Speaker 1: twenty great Bell's going to join us from Indianapolis, and
- 1:58Speaker 1: I reached out to Greg this morning and he did
- 2:01Speaker 1: the morning show as always as he does all the time,
- 2:03Speaker 1: but since he had been on with the morning show,
- 2:05Speaker 1: Mike McDonald has spoke, so we'll get his his input
- 2:10Speaker 1: coming up at one twenty today. What's going on with
- 2:13Speaker 1: McDonald and with Schneider kind of one of the last
- 2:16Speaker 1: times we'll hear from these guys, depending on possible big moves, extensions, trades,
- 2:22Speaker 1: whatever last kind of scheduled time we'll hear from them
- 2:26Speaker 1: until like right around the draft, which is the end
- 2:28Speaker 1: of April. So we'll find out what's being said back
- 2:31Speaker 1: there more than anything, just kind of get the pulse
- 2:33Speaker 1: of what's happening. It's you know, the combine is an
- 2:36Speaker 1: interesting time because everyone's there, and you know, every league
- 2:41Speaker 1: does things differently, but with the the NFL combine more
- 2:45Speaker 1: so than the NHL has a combine. The NBA has
- 2:47Speaker 1: a combine, but the combine for the NFL is truly
- 2:51Speaker 1: kind of the gathering of everybody. They go to Indianapolis,
- 2:54Speaker 1: They go to sant Elmlos Steakhouse, and agents are there,
- 2:57Speaker 1: players to be, college guys are there, but more importantly,
- 3:00Speaker 1: all the GMS and a lot of the coaches on
- 3:02Speaker 1: all the coaches are there, and so we'll kind of
- 3:04Speaker 1: find out what Greg's hearing boots on the ground from
- 3:07Speaker 1: you know, everyone around there in terms of what ken
- 3:09Speaker 1: Walker's value is. What the Seahawks are thinking with job
- 3:12Speaker 1: and wol in the two corners, it probably keep one,
- 3:14Speaker 1: not both? Or are they gonna do with Kobe Bryant,
- 3:16Speaker 1: boy Mafey. Is there some rumor you guys help me
- 3:20Speaker 1: out here. Is there some rumor out there that that
- 3:23Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence may retire?
- 3:26Speaker 5: I don't know where that came from, But where did
- 3:28Speaker 5: that come from?
- 3:28Speaker 6: I've been seeing the same stuff like, oh, the Seahawks
- 3:31Speaker 6: make need to make sure they bring DeMarcus Lawrence back.
- 3:33Speaker 5: I thought that was a foregone He's not a free agent.
- 3:35Speaker 1: He's got no I'm left on his contract. I you
- 3:38Speaker 1: won a super Bowl. I see going out on top
- 3:41Speaker 1: in a sense, but I also see the potential to
- 3:44Speaker 1: do something that teams don't do, and that's repeat yes, right, So.
- 3:48Speaker 4: I will tell you talking to him in the locker
- 3:51Speaker 4: room after the Super Bowl went yeah, you did not
- 3:53Speaker 4: look like.
- 3:54Speaker 2: A man or sound like one that is going anywhere.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I just have to be careful. And these were in
- 4:01Speaker 1: the world we live in right now. But like stuff
- 4:04Speaker 1: gets tossed out there and and we just take it
- 4:08Speaker 1: for for you know, for granted that it's that's truth,
- 4:11Speaker 1: because it's somewhere on social media, I think. I mean,
- 4:14Speaker 1: if we're ranking the worst places in terms of information,
- 4:19Speaker 1: Facebook slash Instagram are one and one A and and
- 4:23Speaker 1: I say that we use Instagram not for news.
- 4:25Speaker 5: We use it to promote, like a case content, Yeah, uh, it's.
- 4:29Speaker 3: Not a news source for us. But you see stuff
- 4:31Speaker 3: there those two places. Case in point, there was a
- 4:34Speaker 3: rumor that the Seahawks had declined an invitation to go
- 4:38Speaker 3: to the White House, and you know that apparently that
- 4:42Speaker 3: hasn't been the case. I don't even know if the invitations.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Even come yet or no, said today, right, yeah, so
- 4:48Speaker 1: but then all these people are good. That's great, all right,
- 4:51Speaker 1: you know that, you know, screw the Orange Man and
- 4:53Speaker 1: all those things, and and and they're like, well, wait
- 4:55Speaker 1: a second, do we know that that's true. Well, it's not,
- 4:58Speaker 1: you know, and especially with the climate we live in today,
- 5:02Speaker 1: especially with what's happened the last few days with the
- 5:05Speaker 1: US men's hockey team and I'll be good. The FBI director,
- 5:13Speaker 1: My god, can you look less like a director? Can
- 5:18Speaker 1: you look like less of a director of the FBI?
- 5:20Speaker 4: I thought it was a deason, sorry to be honest,
- 5:23Speaker 4: Like he looked like a comedian doing that, did he not?
- 5:26Speaker 2: It just looked like someone who is in show business.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Yes, it's just terrifying that that is who's protecting our
- 5:31Speaker 1: country sort of maybe kind of anyway, we hear these
- 5:34Speaker 1: things that they just get phone out there. So like
- 5:36Speaker 1: I heard the DeMarcus Lawrence Roomer, I'm like, what, like,
- 5:39Speaker 1: what what are we talking about? Anyway, so we'll get
- 5:42Speaker 1: to all that with Greg. Maybe it is true. I
- 5:43Speaker 1: don't know. We'll find out what Greg can maybe tell hey, Ian,
- 5:45Speaker 1: you're full that you should be following stuff more carefully,
- 5:47Speaker 1: and I'm like, I try to. But anyway, anyway, we'll
- 5:49Speaker 1: get to that. Jess Anders and I stumbled across something
- 5:53Speaker 1: yesterday and I want to bring this up just a
- 5:57Speaker 1: kind of a fun different like real actual wait for it,
- 6:01Speaker 1: not like you take a side, I take a side
- 6:03Speaker 1: and we yell each other topic, but no, an actual
- 6:06Speaker 1: kind of fun topic. So the three on three over
- 6:10Speaker 1: time we had ed Zoe on yesterday, Jess.
- 6:11Speaker 3: He was awesome.
- 6:12Speaker 1: If people missed it, its podcast up there, the old
- 6:14Speaker 1: check was on, of course. Yeah. He was also on
- 6:17Speaker 1: the call for NBC on the gold medal game and
- 6:19Speaker 1: throughout the Olympics. Did just a great job with Kenny
- 6:21Speaker 1: Albert and edgel came on.
- 6:23Speaker 3: He's kind of up.
- 6:24Speaker 1: I mean, poor guy was half asleep. I mean he's
- 6:26Speaker 1: on just messed up time wise right now. But he's
- 6:29Speaker 1: kind of have to come on with us. And we're
- 6:31Speaker 1: talking about the three on three deciding the gold medal
- 6:33Speaker 1: game for both the men and women. By the way,
- 6:34Speaker 1: it wasn't just the men. And you know, and you
- 6:37Speaker 1: know there's when you lose, there's gonna be well, we
- 6:40Speaker 1: shouldn't do it three on three? Right, Oh okay, yeah, right,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and I listen, I understand it. You know, nothing's perfect
- 6:48Speaker 1: in this world. And you know, the Olympics are four
- 6:51Speaker 1: years away, maybe they'll come to a different conclusion. I
- 6:54Speaker 1: kind of doubt it for the early games, just for
- 6:57Speaker 1: the reason that is pretty its logistics. Yeah, you know,
- 7:00Speaker 1: you can't. You're playing a round robin tournament with these
- 7:05Speaker 1: all star games and you're trying to fit them in
- 7:07Speaker 1: a window in you know probably two arenas, Max, It's
- 7:10Speaker 1: that's what you do. You've got to finish the game off.
- 7:13Speaker 1: But we kind of came up with, like where you know,
- 7:16Speaker 1: what overtimes do fans like? Which overtimes need to be fixed?
- 7:21Speaker 1: And so I'll throw that out there today and we'll
- 7:23Speaker 1: get kind of knee deep into this in the two
- 7:25Speaker 1: o'clock hour, just kind of have some fun with it.
- 7:27Speaker 1: I jotted down, like, you know, NFL, Major League Baseball,
- 7:30Speaker 1: at NHL, NBA, college basketball are the same college football,
- 7:33Speaker 1: which overtimes work, which ones don't, which ones need fixing?
- 7:39Speaker 1: And I ask you because I think the fan is
- 7:41Speaker 1: the one that should determine this. A lot of times
- 7:44Speaker 1: college football changed it's overtime years ago, but a lot
- 7:48Speaker 1: of things with college football that have changed outside of
- 7:50Speaker 1: the NIL have to do with fan experience. It's the
- 7:54Speaker 1: one thing that college football actually has done right is
- 7:58Speaker 1: in some ways college football the NC double A. Again
- 8:01Speaker 1: it's hard to say does right. They listened to the fans,
- 8:05Speaker 1: and fans were saying, hey, and maybe even TV networks
- 8:09Speaker 1: games are too long. You know, just when you first
- 8:11Speaker 1: started working sidelines at Wazoo, it wasn't out of the
- 8:15Speaker 1: it wasn't you know, it was kind of the norm
- 8:17Speaker 1: to have four plus hours.
- 8:19Speaker 4: I was prepared for four or more, and especially in
- 8:22Speaker 4: a obviously like throwing offense.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Right, That's why I stop constantly.
- 8:27Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, because the clock stopped after every
- 8:30Speaker 1: first down in the entire game.
- 8:32Speaker 2: And every incompletion.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, incompletions are still always going to stop in football,
- 8:36Speaker 1: which is fine that they should, but like you know,
- 8:39Speaker 1: college was different.
- 8:40Speaker 3: The NFL.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Every every first down clock stopped. Reset the clock, and
- 8:44Speaker 1: it took a while. They've sped up that process. They've changed,
- 8:47Speaker 1: and they listened to the networks. I think they listen
- 8:48Speaker 1: to fans as well, and you know, but but for
- 8:51Speaker 1: the most part, I think the fans matter. Like do
- 8:54Speaker 1: people like Major League Baseball's Ghost Runner? Yes? Or no?
- 8:57Speaker 1: Do you like the NFL, which has tweaked its rules
- 9:00Speaker 1: now where both teams get an opportunity to score and
- 9:03Speaker 1: if both do then it goes to sudden death overtime.
- 9:07Speaker 1: I think the NFL is the easiest one to fix.
- 9:08Speaker 1: I'll get to that two o'clock. I think there's a
- 9:10Speaker 1: there's just an easy, easy, easy fix in the NFL,
- 9:13Speaker 1: and and then no one would be able to complain
- 9:16Speaker 1: and we're done and we move on. But we'll get
- 9:18Speaker 1: to that at you know, at two o'clock. The NHL
- 9:21Speaker 1: is the one kind of on top of mind because
- 9:22Speaker 1: it's very similar to what we sign the Olympics. The
- 9:24Speaker 1: NFL has gone to three on three overtime.
- 9:26Speaker 5: Five minutes for the regular season for the regular.
- 9:28Speaker 1: Season, and then go to a shootout. Obviously in the playoffs,
- 9:30Speaker 1: no three on three, no shootout. It's you just play
- 9:33Speaker 1: until you die or score, simple as and but you
- 9:37Speaker 1: can do that in the in the postseason. I personally
- 9:39Speaker 1: hate the shootout. I think it's the dumbest thing on
- 9:42Speaker 1: the planet I do in in sports.
- 9:45Speaker 5: They do it in soccer too, and I hate it.
- 9:46Speaker 1: I just it's ridiculous. The penalty kicks might even be worse. Yeah, yeah,
- 9:50Speaker 1: because it's you know, in the NHL, if a guy
- 9:53Speaker 1: makes thirty percent of his shootout attempts, he's great. In soccer,
- 9:58Speaker 1: unless you're hitting eighty five percent plus of your pks,
- 10:01Speaker 1: you're not good. So but I basically to decide things
- 10:05Speaker 1: on a skills challenge is ridiculous. It's idiotic to me.
- 10:08Speaker 1: If nobody scores, it's a tie, you move on. It's
- 10:11Speaker 1: as simple as yeah, right, nobody gets two points, both
- 10:13Speaker 1: teams get one.
- 10:14Speaker 3: In a way you go.
- 10:15Speaker 1: But I want to know from you guys, four nine
- 10:17Speaker 1: four five one. That's t Comma Dodge text line four
- 10:19Speaker 1: nine four five one. What overtimes work? Which ones do
- 10:24Speaker 1: you like? Which ones need to be tweaked? More importantly?
- 10:27Speaker 1: How or maybe this which overtimes you absolutely hate and despise?
- 10:32Speaker 1: What's up a little fun? We'll just talk this is crazy,
- 10:35Speaker 1: just kind of little fun sports talk today, little little
- 10:39Speaker 1: little little deep breath. Let's talk about just something on
- 10:42Speaker 1: the I just I was hesitant to do this today.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Everyone's upset in this world. We're all mad. Everyone's pissed off.
- 10:48Speaker 1: I get it, you know, find something. We all have
- 10:51Speaker 1: to find something to be mad. Let's just we don't
- 10:53Speaker 1: have to be mad about overtimes. Let's just talk about overtimes.
- 10:55Speaker 1: Let's so we do on this station. We talk about sports.
- 10:57Speaker 3: So we'll do that.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Because I want your thoughts to Coma Dots text line
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- 11:50Speaker 1: on with the NFL? The combine? What's the leaves for
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- 12:40Speaker 1: here joined us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. First of all,
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- 12:45Speaker 1: a couple of days off last week. I know you
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- 12:54Speaker 9: Hello sir, Hello sir, welcome back from your comentic hiatus.
- 13:00Speaker 1: Very short Olympic play, not like a lot of it.
- 13:02Speaker 1: I didn't have three weeks like a lot of people.
- 13:04Speaker 1: That little thing called the super Bowl and all that
- 13:06Speaker 1: got in the way. Yeah, that was yeah, which is fine.
- 13:09Speaker 1: You know what, if we can talk about super Bowls
- 13:11Speaker 1: and the local team being in it, I'm all for it,
- 13:13Speaker 1: parades and all that fun stuff. So no big deal there,
- 13:16Speaker 1: no big deal there.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Here we are.
- 13:18Speaker 1: It's February twenty fifth, you're in Indianapolis. It's the Combine.
- 13:22Speaker 1: First of all, are you okay?
- 13:23Speaker 3: Everything good? I heard?
- 13:24Speaker 1: I heard sometimes people find trouble in Indianapolis. Are we
- 13:27Speaker 1: okay there? I mean good with the break bella trip
- 13:29Speaker 1: so far?
- 13:31Speaker 9: No, it was probably my twentieth one of these. I'm
- 13:34Speaker 9: kind of a vetro to stay out of trouble. I
- 13:36Speaker 9: know where to avoid trouble. I guess when I'm here.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Is that saying I'm not there? I'm not traveling with
- 13:41Speaker 1: you anymore? So it's a little easier to stay out
- 13:43Speaker 1: of trouble.
- 13:43Speaker 9: Is that you're saying, well, that's an inferred Yes, that's
- 13:47Speaker 9: an inferred statement of fact that you said it, not me,
- 13:50Speaker 9: But that is that is correct. They're a lot more
- 13:53Speaker 9: is there earlier nights than there used to be.
- 13:56Speaker 1: I'm just thinking back to the Larry Stone Farewell in Baltimore.
- 13:59Speaker 1: That was a that was a late night, that was
- 14:00Speaker 1: a rough next day, you.
- 14:02Speaker 9: Know, one, that.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Was definitely one.
- 14:08Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the news I got. I
- 14:10Speaker 1: got a long list of grievances here. No, actually a
- 14:12Speaker 1: long list of things to ask you. Mike McDonalds spoke today,
- 14:15Speaker 1: but we'll get to him in a second. Let me
- 14:16Speaker 1: and jump in. I want to first address this. I
- 14:19Speaker 1: mentioned this earlier. God, you know this year in the
- 14:21Speaker 1: news business. You're a journalist who worked for a print,
- 14:23Speaker 1: you know, a steam print institution in the Tacoma News Tribune.
- 14:27Speaker 1: And we live in a world now where there's I
- 14:29Speaker 1: hate the term fake news, but there's stuff that gets
- 14:31Speaker 1: thrown out there and people take it as fact. I
- 14:34Speaker 1: never know what to believe half the time until I
- 14:36Speaker 1: see where it actually comes from. There's like this rumor
- 14:39Speaker 1: rumblings or something about DeMarcus Lawrence retiring. Is that really
- 14:42Speaker 1: a thing? Did we lose Greg?
- 14:49Speaker 5: Possibly?
- 14:49Speaker 1: Let me just checked hang on. Such a good setup
- 14:54Speaker 1: for a question, it really was.
- 14:56Speaker 2: I think he was. I thought he was held in suspense.
- 14:58Speaker 1: We got him back, Okay, Greg, DeMarcus Lawrence, is he
- 15:01Speaker 1: thinking about retiring or is he coming back?
- 15:04Speaker 9: Mike McDonald told me he didn't. He haven't heard anything
- 15:07Speaker 9: other than Lawrence telling him he's going to come back.
- 15:10Speaker 9: But he also told me a couple hours ago that
- 15:13Speaker 9: you know how this is get into a twelve thirteenth
- 15:15Speaker 9: heier thirty four years old, that things can change now
- 15:20Speaker 9: coming off of a super Bowl championship, something DeMarcus Lawrence
- 15:22Speaker 9: has never had before played twelve years before you got
- 15:25Speaker 9: to the super Bowl, it wouldn't be a complete shock
- 15:29Speaker 9: for him to walk away under these circumstances. But as
- 15:31Speaker 9: of a couple hours ago, Mike donald said he was
- 15:33Speaker 9: under the impression that Lawrence, Jaron Reid, all of them
- 15:37Speaker 9: were going to run it back, and that was what
- 15:39Speaker 9: he was told on the exit interviews.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Anyway, well, I mean it's a chance to go back
- 15:42Speaker 1: to back. Is something special too, I can so we
- 15:44Speaker 1: can understand that. Let me set up the rest of
- 15:47Speaker 1: it before we talked about Schneider McDonald and everything that's
- 15:49Speaker 1: been saying and all the storylines of free agency, give people,
- 15:52Speaker 1: like all joking aside, give people kind of a feel. Listen,
- 15:55Speaker 1: the combine is where some guys will work out and
- 15:58Speaker 1: run big forties and jump high and run fast and
- 16:01Speaker 1: bench press a lot and have great in person interviews,
- 16:04Speaker 1: great podium interviews with media. It's for the college kids.
- 16:07Speaker 1: But there's so much more to the combine than that.
- 16:09Speaker 1: And I think that's why you guys are there. You guys,
- 16:12Speaker 1: you and the rest of the beat guys because a
- 16:14Speaker 1: you talked to McDonald and Schneider, but be kind of
- 16:17Speaker 1: boots on the ground. This is an opportunity. Every agent's there,
- 16:20Speaker 1: GM's are there, most not all coaches are there. Kind
- 16:24Speaker 1: of paint the picture of why this week is important
- 16:27Speaker 1: in terms of what gets done behind the scenes.
- 16:31Speaker 9: Well, not only is John Schneider a general manager here,
- 16:34Speaker 9: but all of his contract staff and all of his
- 16:38Speaker 9: analysts and all of the people who set the contract
- 16:41Speaker 9: values for how the Siahawks want to slot players pay
- 16:44Speaker 9: for twenty twenty six under the salary. Yet they're all
- 16:46Speaker 9: here too. And Schneider was pretty open talking to us
- 16:49Speaker 9: yesterday about I'm not even here for the college guys
- 16:53Speaker 9: this year, in particular because of the high profile Pro Bowl,
- 16:58Speaker 9: all Pro Super Bowl champions, ardiers that they have that
- 17:01Speaker 9: are pending free agents. The Super Bowl MVP Kenneth Walker,
- 17:04Speaker 9: Rik Wollan Rashid Shiheed, Kobe Bryant, Boy Mafe Snyder stuff
- 17:11Speaker 9: front saying I'm here for the agents of those guys,
- 17:14Speaker 9: and in particular with Walker. He Snyder has not had
- 17:18Speaker 9: face to face talks about Walker's contract with Walker's new
- 17:21Speaker 9: agents because Walker just hired him last month the week
- 17:24Speaker 9: of the NFC title game. He fired his previous agents
- 17:27Speaker 9: and hired David Canter and his buddies at the R
- 17:29Speaker 9: Sports Group down in Florida, and so they haven't had
- 17:32Speaker 9: a chance to set what their minimum, their far their
- 17:36Speaker 9: first negotiation number for what it would take to re
- 17:39Speaker 9: sign Walker. And they're doing that this week in Indianapolis
- 17:42Speaker 9: with Snyder, and he's doing that with Shaheed's agents, and
- 17:44Speaker 9: he's doing that with Jason Chiatt and Rik Willam's agents.
- 17:50Speaker 9: That is the thrust of what John Schneider's doing now.
- 17:54Speaker 9: His football personnel scouting staff and his college scouting staff
- 17:58Speaker 9: and Nolan Timsley, the assistant Jim and those guys, they're
- 18:00Speaker 9: going to be more focused on he interviews the medical process,
- 18:04Speaker 9: the underware Olympics that go on TV this weekend with
- 18:07Speaker 9: the college players, but the GM contracts side of the
- 18:10Speaker 9: house is here to get business done, and they'll take
- 18:13Speaker 9: in the coffee shops and in the lobbies and informal
- 18:17Speaker 9: and on the phone. They're going to take these agents'
- 18:20Speaker 9: first stab at what negotiations may start at for new contracts,
- 18:24Speaker 9: take them back to renting next week and form their
- 18:27Speaker 9: counter offers to give to their agents for these pending
- 18:31Speaker 9: free agents next week. And then they got doing a
- 18:33Speaker 9: short time frame, you know, of course, because as you know,
- 18:35Speaker 9: in March ninth is when market opens, that's when the
- 18:38Speaker 9: legal tampering career begins. And Marsh eleventh is when they
- 18:40Speaker 9: can officially start signing deals. So this week to get
- 18:44Speaker 9: the first uh the agents numbers, they have next week
- 18:50Speaker 9: to make a counter offer and see they get a
- 18:51Speaker 9: deal done.
- 18:52Speaker 1: And then you got every GM there as well. That
- 18:55Speaker 1: there's all sniffing around, and I'd always like the legal
- 18:58Speaker 1: legal tampering which seems like an our more on. But
- 19:01Speaker 1: that being said, like legal tampering officially starts, as you
- 19:04Speaker 1: mentioned on March ninth, league here on March eleventh, legal.
- 19:07Speaker 9: Tampering Monday, when everybody got.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Here, I was gonna say, isn't that what it is?
- 19:10Speaker 1: When when you know, guy comes up to John John
- 19:13Speaker 1: Lynch goes up to John Schneider and just says, Hey,
- 19:15Speaker 1: what about so and so?
- 19:16Speaker 3: What about so?
- 19:17Speaker 10: Right?
- 19:17Speaker 3: I mean, that's what's going on.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Right.
- 19:19Speaker 9: And when Kenny Right, and when Kenneth Walker's agent bumps
- 19:22Speaker 9: into the Jets TM, they don't just say excuse me.
- 19:25Speaker 9: They don't just say excuse me and keep ordering their Burris.
- 19:28Speaker 9: They talk numbers, and they talk well, what Seattle is
- 19:31Speaker 9: going to do? Yes, And that all happens here at
- 19:34Speaker 9: the combine, which is why to me, from what I
- 19:38Speaker 9: try to do covering and now especially a Super Bowl champion.
- 19:40Speaker 9: To me, the combine is Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and
- 19:44Speaker 9: then once once the players get on the field and
- 19:47Speaker 9: bench pressing and catching passes, I'm out of here. In fact,
- 19:50Speaker 9: I'm leaving tomorrow because the crux of what the Seahawks
- 19:54Speaker 9: twenty twenty sixth season is going to be like is
- 19:57Speaker 9: going down right now between now and Thursday.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Yeah, only Ford picks right now, even if he adds
- 20:01Speaker 1: one or two draft picks, whatever whatever he does. I mean,
- 20:03Speaker 1: it's not a it's this draft is a is kind
- 20:06Speaker 1: of a nothing burger by Seahawks standards, compared to what
- 20:08Speaker 1: he's done the last few years and building this roster
- 20:10Speaker 1: back up. Greg Bell joined this News Tribune Seahawk insider
- 20:13Speaker 1: here on nine three point three kjr FM, all Right,
- 20:16Speaker 1: would you glean yesterday from John Schnunder for those who
- 20:18Speaker 1: missed the.
- 20:18Speaker 9: Story, Well, one of the things I didn't put in
- 20:21Speaker 9: my story is what you just mentioned. I asked Snyder
- 20:24Speaker 9: about having only four picks and how aggressive he might
- 20:27Speaker 9: be to get more picks this time, and how that
- 20:29Speaker 9: changes the whole team's approached this combine. And he said
- 20:33Speaker 9: they made the estimate a year or two ago that
- 20:36Speaker 9: this draft class was not as deep, not as worth
- 20:39Speaker 9: investing a lot of capital and trade value to get
- 20:43Speaker 9: more picks than in last year's draft or in next
- 20:45Speaker 9: year's draft. And so he's treating this draft a little
- 20:48Speaker 9: bit like that COVID year draft. Remember that when went
- 20:50Speaker 9: three picks, yep, and he didn't He traded away his
- 20:54Speaker 9: picks and traded for players, and he didn't try to
- 20:57Speaker 9: move up or get additional picks that year because of
- 20:59Speaker 9: the COVID year and he didn have a good scouting
- 21:01Speaker 9: read on those guys. He's treating this year like that.
- 21:04Speaker 9: And I'm not getting the impression that he's going to
- 21:06Speaker 9: get too many more picks than the four. I don't
- 21:09Speaker 9: think they'll still have just for especially because they're the
- 21:11Speaker 9: bottom of the first round of thirty two. They never
- 21:14Speaker 9: have thirty two first round talent players for any draft.
- 21:17Speaker 9: So he'll trade down that thirty two and get a
- 21:19Speaker 9: pick or two extra. But they're not going to go
- 21:22Speaker 9: out and say, well, we only have four picks. Oh,
- 21:24Speaker 9: they only have four picks this year by design. The
- 21:28Speaker 9: other thing is I'm getting to read from players, from
- 21:32Speaker 9: people around the league and the agent types that know
- 21:35Speaker 9: these numbers and how markets get set that I think
- 21:38Speaker 9: Rashid si Heat might be the first to get resigned
- 21:41Speaker 9: and maybe the easiest for John Schneider to redo, because
- 21:44Speaker 9: they're going to value him as a probow kick returner,
- 21:47Speaker 9: that all pro kick returner as he is, but not
- 21:50Speaker 9: as a dual wide receiver kick returner, because the Seahawks
- 21:53Speaker 9: have Tory Horton coming back off the shin injury.
- 21:55Speaker 10: To do that.
- 21:56Speaker 9: So in the Seahawks mind, they're going to spot and
- 21:59Speaker 9: treat those two different players with two different roles, basically
- 22:02Speaker 9: the same skill set but in two different roles. And
- 22:05Speaker 9: now and negotiated and signed with Shihed as a kick
- 22:07Speaker 9: returner only so to see and now have Horton coming
- 22:11Speaker 9: back off the injury for his second season at wide receiver.
- 22:15Speaker 9: That's unlike most teams that would negotiate with Rashid Shaheed
- 22:20Speaker 9: now she he wants to stay here. Of course, everybody
- 22:22Speaker 9: who is on a super Bowl team winning wants to
- 22:24Speaker 9: stay on the Super Bowl team. But of the four
- 22:28Speaker 9: big key pending free agents between Walker, Shaheed, Kobe Bryant, Riquil,
- 22:33Speaker 9: and I think Shaheed might be the first one, perhaps
- 22:36Speaker 9: the more simple one than go back, a better term
- 22:40Speaker 9: to resign.
- 22:41Speaker 1: I thought Greg too kind of Rashid Shaheed feels like
- 22:45Speaker 1: there's a precedent with him. In a sense, the precedents
- 22:48Speaker 1: are two guys, Leonard Williams and Ernest Jones. You know
- 22:51Speaker 1: in season trades that Schneider makes with guys that are
- 22:54Speaker 1: on expiring contracts. But in their mind, more than likely
- 22:58Speaker 1: they want to resign. Am I going down the right
- 23:00Speaker 1: road there?
- 23:01Speaker 9: Yeah, that's exactly right, and entering into a culture of
- 23:05Speaker 9: winning and immediate success and first time in their careers
- 23:11Speaker 9: they've had this much success. She heat was at the Saints,
- 23:15Speaker 9: I mean at the beginning of the season, they were
- 23:16Speaker 9: on their way to a losing season, and she Heat's
- 23:19Speaker 9: future was he didn't know what was going on. He
- 23:21Speaker 9: was on a losing team and an expiring contract. Now
- 23:24Speaker 9: all of a sudden, he becomes a pro bowler, wins
- 23:27Speaker 9: the biggest game that got the Seahawks division title with
- 23:30Speaker 9: that kickoff return in the fourth quarter against the Rams,
- 23:33Speaker 9: leads off the division champ, the division playoff game against
- 23:35Speaker 9: San Francisco with the big kickoff return for a touchdown.
- 23:38Speaker 9: And you could use the MVP as second half of
- 23:41Speaker 9: the season for this team, and they're going to pay
- 23:44Speaker 9: him that way, and they have a really specialized role.
- 23:47Speaker 9: I know she Heat from talking to him, loves Jay
- 23:49Speaker 9: Harbaugh and how he uses and values special teams. He
- 23:53Speaker 9: loves how Mike McDonald elevates special teams and talks about
- 23:58Speaker 9: it and drills it. Spent a lot of time game
- 24:01Speaker 9: planning it. It's different in New Orleans. Let's put it
- 24:04Speaker 9: that way for him, and talking to people around, should
- 24:07Speaker 9: he I'd be really surprised if he doesn't resign.
- 24:11Speaker 1: Let's go to the two corners real quick, and if
- 24:14Speaker 1: you want to include Kobe Bryant in there, you can
- 24:15Speaker 1: because of the title Katta depth, you know, providing some
- 24:18Speaker 1: depth safe to say they would probably sign one, but
- 24:22Speaker 1: not both of Job and Woolen.
- 24:24Speaker 3: And where does Bryant the safety fit in.
- 24:27Speaker 9: Well, McDonald really likes Bryant. He loves his smarts, his instincts,
- 24:32Speaker 9: how he plays with love. I don't think that doesn't
- 24:35Speaker 9: seem like a guy they're going to let get away,
- 24:37Speaker 9: a homegrown guy that they've moved around in different positions
- 24:41Speaker 9: and until he found his true place on this team.
- 24:44Speaker 9: And McDonald really really likes how he fits in the
- 24:48Speaker 9: entire scope of things well, and to me, he's going
- 24:50Speaker 9: to price himself out of Seattle. The league sees sixty
- 24:55Speaker 9: four to two hundred pounds running as well as he does,
- 24:57Speaker 9: as long as arms he has. In fact, he was
- 24:59Speaker 9: in the Probo as a rookie, and they salivate over
- 25:02Speaker 9: the physical talent that he has. And the Seahawks can
- 25:05Speaker 9: get away with I think much easier time signing back
- 25:08Speaker 9: Josh Joe, a former waiver picked up from the Eagles
- 25:12Speaker 9: than they would both in money and effort and prequel.
- 25:15Speaker 9: And you can't bring everyone back the NFL is you know,
- 25:17Speaker 9: You'll make sure of that. But the salary kept so
- 25:20Speaker 9: every time they say, well, we want to bring them
- 25:22Speaker 9: all back. Of course they always say that because they
- 25:24Speaker 9: don't want to come out in the media and say, wow,
- 25:26Speaker 9: we don't really want him back or he's too expensive.
- 25:28Speaker 9: They're never going to do that, but they never all
- 25:31Speaker 9: come back. And that the NFL legislates it that way.
- 25:35Speaker 9: If you're pinning me down, I think job Bryant and
- 25:40Speaker 9: Yushija he come back. I think Kenneth Walker and Requillen
- 25:44Speaker 9: walk to richer contracts and the Seahawks WI want to
- 25:46Speaker 9: get him anywhere.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Does the Zach Charbonay injury factor in it all with
- 25:50Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker his value to this team.
- 25:52Speaker 9: Yes, I was finishing the story when Andrews called. They
- 25:57Speaker 9: got word that it's a little more optimistic on Sharbonay
- 26:00Speaker 9: that they thought when he first got injured. Now they
- 26:02Speaker 9: had to wait for almost a full month actually a
- 26:05Speaker 9: little more than a full month before they had the
- 26:07Speaker 9: ACL surgery. For those of us that have had ACL surgeries,
- 26:11Speaker 9: you just can't go in and operate when your knees
- 26:13Speaker 9: blown up. You get to wait till the slowing goes
- 26:14Speaker 9: all the way down. And some structural his terrors started
- 26:19Speaker 9: showing itself and it took almost five weeks for that
- 26:21Speaker 9: to happen with Schoberty, so he just had the surgery
- 26:23Speaker 9: last weekend. But Mike McDonald said today that they got
- 26:26Speaker 9: some positive news out of that, both he and John
- 26:30Speaker 9: Schneider side. We wouldn't rule out anything with Charbonnay, with
- 26:33Speaker 9: how work ethic he has and blah blah blah. But
- 26:36Speaker 9: the bottom line is that eight to twelve month recovery
- 26:38Speaker 9: for an ACL. They're hoping that could be on the
- 26:41Speaker 9: shorter side of that. Now that still takes them the September.
- 26:45Speaker 9: Maybe that's the most optimistic. That's a risky game to
- 26:50Speaker 9: play to let your Super Bowl MVP walk out and
- 26:52Speaker 9: then have your presumed air as your lead back not
- 26:56Speaker 9: coming back until September off an ACL. There It is
- 27:00Speaker 9: a reminder, though, you know why teams and why the
- 27:03Speaker 9: Seahawks haven't re signed Walker up till now, and why
- 27:06Speaker 9: teams are so reluctant to give big money, guaranteed second
- 27:10Speaker 9: contracts two running backs, the most treated position with the
- 27:15Speaker 9: lowest sale life in the league. They just won't do it.
- 27:18Speaker 9: And even though Kenneth Walker finally played seventeen games for
- 27:21Speaker 9: the first time in his career this season, even though
- 27:23Speaker 9: he's only twenty five. The very fact that they haven't
- 27:26Speaker 9: even made an offer to him yet, according to what
- 27:29Speaker 9: Walker told me at the Super Bowl, tells you what
- 27:31Speaker 9: they think of the running back position and trying to
- 27:33Speaker 9: project that out. I expect them if they're one of
- 27:35Speaker 9: their four picks going to be a running back, and
- 27:37Speaker 9: they're going to start over, just like they started over
- 27:39Speaker 9: after Ross Row and Lynch Thomas, Rawls with Chris Carson,
- 27:43Speaker 9: after Rawls with Kenneth Walker, after Carson.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's an interesting dynamic grig because you
- 27:49Speaker 1: know they've had success with you. Carson was a seventh
- 27:53Speaker 1: round pick. Rawls, ye go undrafted right, Yeah, and both
- 28:00Speaker 1: those guys had their careers cut short by injuries, and
- 28:03Speaker 1: so that happens, and you know, I think it happened
- 28:05Speaker 1: right after Carson signed a decent contract too, if I'm
- 28:07Speaker 1: not mistaken and hurt his neck, you know, so I
- 28:10Speaker 1: can understand. Do they feel like they can find a guy.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Let's just take Sharbonay out of it for a second.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Say he's you know, he we we know with help
- 28:18Speaker 1: when he's healthy, we know it. Zach Scharbona is we
- 28:21Speaker 1: know contract right, right, right, But when healthy, we know
- 28:26Speaker 1: what Walker is. I think it's safe to say when
- 28:28Speaker 1: when both are healthy side by side, Walker is more dynamic.
- 28:31Speaker 1: But how much does it drop off? That's probably something
- 28:34Speaker 1: for McDonald and Snyder to figure out. Do they feel
- 28:37Speaker 1: like the jilanis Kenny McIntosh coming off knee injury and
- 28:41Speaker 1: a running back or two in the draft or undrafted
- 28:43Speaker 1: could fill that hole for a guy in Mike McDonald
- 28:45Speaker 1: who wants to run the football.
- 28:49Speaker 9: I don't think they even know. I don't know that
- 28:53Speaker 9: that would be a risky game to play as a
- 28:55Speaker 9: Super Bowl champion that wants to run the ball fifty
- 28:57Speaker 9: percent of the time. And as a fan, I get it.
- 29:01Speaker 9: How are you going to let a Super Bowl and
- 29:02Speaker 9: repeat a walk?
- 29:03Speaker 1: But right?
- 29:03Speaker 9: For the dynamics we just said, But the Sharboney injury
- 29:08Speaker 9: complicates this because look, they had a contract value pegged
- 29:12Speaker 9: for Walker all year. Here's how much we would perhaps
- 29:16Speaker 9: go to the max flour for twenty twenty six and
- 29:18Speaker 9: beyond for Walker, But that was always with sharbon A
- 29:22Speaker 9: presumed to be on the rosters the number for week
- 29:25Speaker 9: one in twenty twenty six, and now that he may
- 29:28Speaker 9: not be that how much more. Does that raise the
- 29:31Speaker 9: ceiling on what the projected number to give to offer
- 29:34Speaker 9: Walker is. I think it goes up obviously if he
- 29:38Speaker 9: gets the free agency, I mean anybody, but especially Kenneth Walker,
- 29:42Speaker 9: if he gets the free agency for the first time
- 29:44Speaker 9: an open market, because usually what happens is John Schnyder says, Okay,
- 29:48Speaker 9: we'll let you go shop. You bring the number, the
- 29:51Speaker 9: best number you get from somebody back to us, and
- 29:53Speaker 9: we'll tell you whether we're going to match that or not.
- 29:55Speaker 9: And most times the players do that and the agents
- 29:57Speaker 9: do that for the Seals. It's a relationship they've had
- 29:59Speaker 9: going way back when John Schneider first did this in
- 30:02Speaker 9: twenty ten with Pete Carroll. But if there was ever
- 30:05Speaker 9: a player that's going to leave the market he gets
- 30:08Speaker 9: to market, it's going to be Kenneth Walker. One think
- 30:11Speaker 9: about it. From Walker's per study, he was putting a
- 30:13Speaker 9: job share in a contract year. After three years of
- 30:19Speaker 9: being the number one back in Seattle, they put him
- 30:21Speaker 9: in a job share on a walk here, that's one
- 30:25Speaker 9: number two. He's still only twenty five years old. At
- 30:27Speaker 9: number three. How many twenty five year old Super Bowl
- 30:30Speaker 9: MVP has become free agents? About a month after the game. Oh,
- 30:34Speaker 9: that's almost unheard of, and at that especially at that position.
- 30:39Speaker 9: And we're not talking about an outside linebacker, or this
- 30:42Speaker 9: is a guy who's going to get that. Fifty percent
- 30:45Speaker 9: of your offensive game plan every week revolves around in
- 30:48Speaker 9: Seattle's offense. It's such a confluence of uniqueness that if
- 30:52Speaker 9: they let him go to market, I think he's gone.
- 30:55Speaker 9: So now John Schneider has what twelve days could correct
- 30:59Speaker 9: that from happening, if you want to, I know.
- 31:01Speaker 1: He wrote about the Super Bowl and whether or not
- 31:03Speaker 1: an invite will come. We'll wait and see how hasn't
- 31:05Speaker 1: come yet? What else are you looking for in the
- 31:06Speaker 1: next twenty fo hours before you hop on a plane
- 31:08Speaker 1: and come back home.
- 31:10Speaker 9: Well, the word I'm getting my Matt, by the way,
- 31:12Speaker 9: is that if the Sea Howks get an invitation, they
- 31:14Speaker 9: will go and they're not going to make some national
- 31:16Speaker 9: news and stand and we're really part of sending make
- 31:20Speaker 9: it all contentious. If they get offered, they'll show up
- 31:24Speaker 9: and it probably would happen in May. That's the word
- 31:27Speaker 9: I've been getting. I said, I ever been writing about
- 31:33Speaker 9: the injury situation with Charvon Ay and does change the
- 31:35Speaker 9: Walker dynamic. That's the story I'm writing right now for
- 31:37Speaker 9: the News Tribune. I also talk about the sale and
- 31:40Speaker 9: the team, John Schneider and Mike McDonald both saying it
- 31:44Speaker 9: is business as usual. Jody Allen met with them after
- 31:47Speaker 9: the announcement the team was up for sale recently and said,
- 31:50Speaker 9: you keep doing your football stuff. Nothing's changing. It's not
- 31:53Speaker 9: like the money's going to stop, or that they're going
- 31:55Speaker 9: to change their draft philosophy or none of that changes.
- 31:59Speaker 9: I asked Snyder yesterday does he expect Jody Allen and
- 32:02Speaker 9: still be the team chair on Week one of the
- 32:04Speaker 9: next season, and he said, I don't know that, but
- 32:07Speaker 9: from at least the football side of it, it's going
- 32:08Speaker 9: to be business as usual this offseason, and ian when
- 32:12Speaker 9: the new buyer or buyers, whether it's a group of investors,
- 32:14Speaker 9: come in, they would be complete idiots to change the
- 32:17Speaker 9: football side of a contending Super Bowl champion that's had
- 32:20Speaker 9: the best run of Samet success in sixteen years. So
- 32:23Speaker 9: the football piece will stay the same. We've talked earlier
- 32:26Speaker 9: in a couple of year shows about how the inside
- 32:29Speaker 9: the building dynamics and the business side of what will
- 32:32Speaker 9: definitely change, but so far there's no effect at all.
- 32:36Speaker 9: And by the way, no imminute sale. It's going to
- 32:40Speaker 9: take a while, and even if they found a buyer
- 32:42Speaker 9: in the next couple of months, it's probably gonna take
- 32:44Speaker 9: a long time to sort that sale out.
- 32:46Speaker 3: I did laugh a little bit.
- 32:47Speaker 1: I thought that the whole you know, and you probably
- 32:50Speaker 1: did too when people were saying, well, with the impending
- 32:53Speaker 1: and you had to ask the question, but with the
- 32:54Speaker 1: impending sale and the team up for sale, like, oh god,
- 32:58Speaker 1: are they not going to be able to do anything
- 32:59Speaker 1: during free agency? Every every team in the NFL spends
- 33:01Speaker 1: to the cap, like it's not just if it was baseball,
- 33:04Speaker 1: it'd be a different story, like, okay, well, you know
- 33:07Speaker 1: what you're you're not gonna spend your payroll is going
- 33:10Speaker 1: to be x. In the NFL, we know what every
- 33:12Speaker 1: team's payroll is, even if they're god awful bad, Like
- 33:14Speaker 1: that's yeah, exactly right.
- 33:16Speaker 9: And nobody and nobody buys an NFL franchise with q ponts. No, no,
- 33:21Speaker 9: don't discounts depending on how much or how little you've
- 33:24Speaker 9: spent on your players. Everyone, as you said, is going
- 33:27Speaker 9: to pay three hundred million dollars or whatever the cap
- 33:29Speaker 9: settles that's this year. Yeah, and the contracts that currently
- 33:33Speaker 9: exists will be honored, and yeah, it won't be any change.
- 33:36Speaker 1: To great stuff is always get some rest and one
- 33:39Speaker 1: more day for you before you head home. Tacoma News
- 33:41Speaker 1: Tribute and go check out what Greg's got going on.
- 33:43Speaker 1: And I'm assuming you might be on the morning show
- 33:45Speaker 1: with those guys tomorrow as well, and you and I
- 33:47Speaker 1: will talk soon.
- 33:48Speaker 3: Man, thanks for to spending some time with us.
- 33:49Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
- 33:50Speaker 9: No right, man, be well, thanks to there you go.
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- 35:19Speaker 1: pre game five o'clock, dropping the puck. They're in Dallas,
- 35:22Speaker 1: take on the Stars, and there's what the good news are.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Bad news.
- 35:25Speaker 5: Oh start with bad news.
- 35:27Speaker 3: Cracking all time against the Stars two and twelve.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Oohikes, goals four per game, one point nine goals against
- 35:35Speaker 1: three point three?
- 35:36Speaker 5: Is that good?
- 35:39Speaker 3: Power play?
- 35:40Speaker 1: Seattle two for forty one lifetime in regular season games
- 35:43Speaker 1: against the Dallas Stars two for forty one Dallas eleven
- 35:48Speaker 1: for forty that's twenty seven percent.
- 35:51Speaker 5: Jeez uh yeah, this is not a good matchup.
- 35:56Speaker 1: This is never Tampa five percentage points.
- 36:01Speaker 3: But they haven't played as often.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Sales won six and one all time, against Tampa Sales
- 36:06Speaker 1: two ten and ten and two all time.
- 36:08Speaker 5: Against That is just the worst record against a Western
- 36:11Speaker 5: Conference team.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Yeah. Affington's next at four thirteen and one. Yeah, now
- 36:17Speaker 1: that's the bad news.
- 36:19Speaker 3: The good news is Dallas doesn't look like they normally do.
- 36:22Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys out tonight, including their leading score,
- 36:25Speaker 1: the thoroughbred Secretarius over it.
- 36:28Speaker 5: It is what he is though, right, he's just like
- 36:31Speaker 5: a coming down the ice.
- 36:34Speaker 1: I mean, just an absolute beast. Uh. Yeah, So he's
- 36:39Speaker 1: out tonight, uh, which is good. That's a that's a
- 36:42Speaker 1: we like that. We like that a lot if you're
- 36:44Speaker 1: the that's a Miko Ranton, by the way, he played
- 36:46Speaker 1: for Team Finlan missed the bronze medal game, which Compococo
- 36:49Speaker 1: and uh Ellie told to win the bronze in that game.
- 36:52Speaker 1: But Miko Ranton has got sixty nine points and fifty
- 36:54Speaker 1: four games this season. So he is out tonight. I think,
- 36:59Speaker 1: uh he's getting as well. Who's their fourth winning score,
- 37:02Speaker 1: but their top defenseman. So yeah, they got their missings
- 37:04Speaker 1: some guys thanks to the Olympics. So that's the time
- 37:07Speaker 1: to begin. I hear a good time to get your
- 37:10Speaker 1: Dallas stars and then Saint Louis tomorrow. They're gonna be
- 37:13Speaker 1: without Robert Thomas, who's probably he's not their best offensive
- 37:16Speaker 1: player when he's probably their second or third best offensive player,
- 37:18Speaker 1: so he's out tomorrow as well. So yeah, they're getting
- 37:21Speaker 1: some teams at a good time. We'll see who plays
- 37:22Speaker 1: tonight for Seattle, whether Tolvinin or Coppocaco are in or
- 37:26Speaker 1: out heard their game time decisions, so we'll.
- 37:29Speaker 3: Wait and see. That is your daily power play.
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- 37:47Speaker 1: nuh do whatever you want to do, listen, watch, doesn't matter,
- 37:50Speaker 1: just support next home game. By the way, Saturday, Vancouver
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- 38:13Speaker 1: Choose Chill, cracking back at it After the Olympic break,
- 38:15Speaker 1: they take on Dallas night four to thirty pre game
- 38:17Speaker 1: five o'clock, dropping the puck on your home for the
- 38:18Speaker 1: KRACKT nine three point three k RFM. They did make
- 38:20Speaker 1: a couple moves yesterday, signing Ryan Winterton and Ben Myers
- 38:23Speaker 1: to contract extensions. A couple depth guys getting rewarded for
- 38:26Speaker 1: their strong play this season. NHL trade deadline, by the way,
- 38:29Speaker 1: is a week from Friday. On March sixth, at noon
- 38:31Speaker 1: Pacific time, NFL scouting combine underway in Indianapolis. We heard
- 38:35Speaker 1: from Greg Bell just a few minutes ago, gms and
- 38:37Speaker 1: coaches to descend upon that Lucas Oil Stadium. According to
- 38:41Speaker 1: what John Schneider said and talking to Greg just a
- 38:43Speaker 1: moment ago, Ken Walker may be a hard guy to
- 38:46Speaker 1: re sign when it's all said and done for the Seahawks.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Workouts officially begin tomorrow. Defensive line and the linebackers sitting
- 38:52Speaker 1: the field tomorrow afternoon. Mike McDonald to speak today as well,
- 38:56Speaker 1: and again basically waiting to hear what happens. By the way,
- 38:59Speaker 1: the Seax have not yet been invited to the White
- 39:01Speaker 1: House if you care about such things. If they do,
- 39:03Speaker 1: according to Greg, he expects them to go and visit
- 39:07Speaker 1: sixteen hundred Pennsylvania. Cal Rowley got his first home in
- 39:09Speaker 1: the spring training yesterday. Husky men's basketball beat Rutgers seventy
- 39:13Speaker 1: nine to seventy two. Yesterday. They host Wisconsin on Saturday.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Kind of playing out the string there though Coon's doing
- 39:20Speaker 1: the same thing. They'll take on Loyal at Verrymont tonight
- 39:22Speaker 1: eight o'clock on the Road, Hour two right now.
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- 39:44Speaker 1: Hour number two the show. We'll get back to the
- 39:45Speaker 1: topic I'm going to get to in a second. Get
- 39:47Speaker 1: some text four nine four to five one on the
- 39:49Speaker 1: Tacoma Dutch text line. We get some feedback and manager
- 39:51Speaker 1: jests on we're talking overtime. It's kind of a little
- 39:54Speaker 1: fun today after all the controversy regarding the three on
- 39:57Speaker 1: three hockey the other day, and actually both days.
- 40:00Speaker 6: Was both really that much controversy. Is it just Canadians
- 40:03Speaker 6: being but hurt.
- 40:04Speaker 3: We'll get to that. We'll get to that in just
- 40:06Speaker 3: a second. See.
- 40:07Speaker 1: I just want to follow up with Greg on what
- 40:09Speaker 1: Greg's conversation a moment ago in regards to ken Walker,
- 40:13Speaker 1: because it just kind of feels like it's trending towards
- 40:16Speaker 1: the Seahawks not able to keep him or not being able,
- 40:19Speaker 1: and they might get priced out in a sense and
- 40:22Speaker 1: not want to commit the same finances that maybe another
- 40:24Speaker 1: team would for ken Walker. You know, I think, you know,
- 40:29Speaker 1: it would be disappointing. I think for fans, you'd love
- 40:32Speaker 1: to be able to see when they raise the flag
- 40:34Speaker 1: and the banner inside the stadium on that opening night,
- 40:37Speaker 1: which I guess now could be Wednesday. Stupid god, NFL
- 40:42Speaker 1: stop with the stupid foreign game the week. But they
- 40:46Speaker 1: know that that's because they're gonna play.
- 40:48Speaker 3: They don't.
- 40:48Speaker 1: They can't play Friday this year, and the second there's
- 40:51Speaker 1: a game that's scheduled for wherever it is somewhere not
- 40:55Speaker 1: in the domestic United States of America. And so the
- 40:58Speaker 1: opener for the yah Man that being on the Wednesday
- 41:01Speaker 1: of that week, which is just lovely moronic on every level. Anyway, Anyway,
- 41:10Speaker 1: when the band goes up, wait, I mean next to
- 41:11Speaker 1: have the Super Bowl MVP in the stadium in uniform, right.
- 41:14Speaker 1: But the reality of the NFL with the salary cap
- 41:17Speaker 1: league is, and that position that he plays is that
- 41:20Speaker 1: you may not want to go down that road and
- 41:23Speaker 1: commit that kind of money or even term in terms
- 41:26Speaker 1: of what ken Walker would demand over many years. And
- 41:31Speaker 1: I I just I guess the thing would worry me.
- 41:34Speaker 1: And I can't even begin to fathom trying to question
- 41:39Speaker 1: John Schneider and and what he and his staff do.
- 41:42Speaker 1: Because they've put together two super Bowl champions right, that's
- 41:45Speaker 1: pretty damn good. Yeah, But and they know they're fun,
- 41:50Speaker 1: they have cap room, they have room to work with.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Ken Walker played all seventeen games for the first time
- 41:57Speaker 1: in his career this year, and I know that's probably
- 41:59Speaker 1: where the try pidation comes. The funny thing is, and
- 42:02Speaker 1: Greg mentioned this, he did kind of a job share
- 42:03Speaker 1: this year. He's had two thousand yard seasons. His rookie year,
- 42:06Speaker 1: he rush for one thousand and fifty yards. This year
- 42:08Speaker 1: he ran for one thy twenty seven. His rookie season,
- 42:11Speaker 1: he had two hundred and twenty eight carries. This year
- 42:13Speaker 1: he had two hundred and twenty one. He had two
- 42:15Speaker 1: nineteen in twenty twenty three. He was hurt and missed
- 42:19Speaker 1: six games last year, last year being twenty twenty four,
- 42:23Speaker 1: and his numbers dropped dramatically. But when healthy and when
- 42:28Speaker 1: given the opportunity, he is an impact back in the
- 42:32Speaker 1: National Football League. And I'll just go back to what
- 42:34Speaker 1: great co Sale told us every week and what Hughes
- 42:37Speaker 1: talked about and others on our show. This is a
- 42:40Speaker 1: guy that's a difference maker. And you hate to see
- 42:43Speaker 1: guys who are true difference makers walk and leave. Pardon
- 42:47Speaker 1: the punt, But the reality in the NFL is there
- 42:50Speaker 1: are running backs that you know, and it's a position.
- 42:53Speaker 1: I mean, think about this. Every time you're on the field,
- 42:58Speaker 1: every time that you touch the ball, every time that
- 43:01Speaker 1: you do what your job is, whether it's running, receiving,
- 43:05Speaker 1: or if you're in past block, you're getting hit and
- 43:09Speaker 1: not hit like a blocker, like an offensive lineman or anything. No,
- 43:12Speaker 1: you're getting hit. So two d and twenty one times
- 43:16Speaker 1: times how many times plus thirty six targets, so about
- 43:22Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty times last year he got hit,
- 43:24Speaker 1: taken to the ground. That was in the regular season.
- 43:27Speaker 1: It takes its toll. So I understand the trumpidation. I
- 43:29Speaker 1: understand the worry. I also don't think and we've talked
- 43:32Speaker 1: about this on a weekly basis. I think we brought
- 43:35Speaker 1: up ken Walker almost every week with great coat heal
- 43:38Speaker 1: this year. I think almost every week on a Friday,
- 43:40Speaker 1: we're breaking down film. He's breaking down film. We talked
- 43:43Speaker 1: about ken Walker because he's a difference maker and a
- 43:48Speaker 1: Zach Sharberney coming off an ACL injury, Kenny McIntosh coming
- 43:52Speaker 1: off an ACL injury. George Hallani is a guy. That's
- 43:57Speaker 1: what you have. That's what you have right now, and
- 44:01Speaker 1: it's not a good running backs class. Ranks told us
- 44:04Speaker 1: that all year. I see some stuff with Daniel Jeremia
- 44:06Speaker 1: out there talking about how deep this this draft class is.
- 44:08Speaker 1: I get it. That's your job. Your job is to
- 44:11Speaker 1: talk about the draft. You're the only guy in the
- 44:13Speaker 1: world saying this is a deep draft. He has to
- 44:14Speaker 1: create some sort of Yeah, he's the only guy saying
- 44:17Speaker 1: that everyone else is. It's a bad draft and running
- 44:20Speaker 1: back wise, there's one guy that's a top probably a
- 44:22Speaker 1: day one, day two guy, and that's Jeremiah Love. That's it.
- 44:25Speaker 1: The drop off is significant. I love Jonah Coleman. If
- 44:28Speaker 1: Jonah Coleman's healthy, I love him. Is he ken Walker?
- 44:30Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe someday would be, but we don't know.
- 44:33Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty heavy risk to take to
- 44:35Speaker 1: let this guy walk, But the market will dictate that
- 44:38Speaker 1: and we'll probably know. I think we'll probably know if
- 44:41Speaker 1: he goes to open market. I think it's gonna be over,
- 44:43Speaker 1: So we'll know by March ninth, March eleventh, when the
- 44:46Speaker 1: league year begins. About ken Walker. Okay mentioned this earlier
- 44:50Speaker 1: four nine four to five one Koma Doadge text line
- 44:52Speaker 1: four nine four five one. That is the kombadage X
- 44:55Speaker 1: text line. Your text also will to get some talkbacks,
- 44:58Speaker 1: all you have to do is go the iHeart radio app.
- 45:01Speaker 1: And speaking of the red microphone and fire Away, I
- 45:04Speaker 1: mentioned this andros you jumped in, I'll let you go
- 45:06Speaker 1: in a second here, So I there was an I
- 45:09Speaker 1: wanted to bring up overtime you and I kind of
- 45:11Speaker 1: just glossed over this. Yesterday in sports as fans, we
- 45:14Speaker 1: like to fix things, right. We always, you know, if
- 45:17Speaker 1: we think if we think it's broken, it'll be fixed.
- 45:19Speaker 1: Case in point, like the automatic balls and strikes, the
- 45:22Speaker 1: challenge system this year in Major League Baseball, which was
- 45:25Speaker 1: it yesterday, there was an umpire that got challenged three
- 45:28Speaker 1: times in the first like six batters, Yeah, and lost
- 45:32Speaker 1: and the umpire was wrong all three times. Yeah.
- 45:33Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, they're gonna there.
- 45:36Speaker 6: You're gonna start to see how different the game is
- 45:39Speaker 6: when the umpires get it correct.
- 45:41Speaker 3: I it's well, we'll table that for Molly Wop down
- 45:46Speaker 3: the road.
- 45:46Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't wait, because I think that's going to
- 45:49Speaker 1: turn into a thing. We narrowed it down to overtime.
- 45:52Speaker 1: We brought it up over time yesterday, Yes, Andrews and nine.
- 45:54Speaker 1: We was kind of we touched on it for a second.
- 45:56Speaker 1: And Andrews, you said it, yeah, like are people do
- 45:58Speaker 1: people not like the three on three because they live
- 46:01Speaker 1: north of the border and they were all pro team
- 46:03Speaker 1: Canada for both men and women. Or now listen, the
- 46:07Speaker 1: US benefited not just once but twice in overtime.
- 46:10Speaker 5: That's true in the quarters as well.
- 46:13Speaker 1: Canada benefited in the semis. They had no problem when
- 46:17Speaker 1: they won in the Semis, right then anything that. But
- 46:22Speaker 1: Edzel said it yesterday, and I think he did speak
- 46:24Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Three on three does seem
- 46:26Speaker 1: a little gimmicky. It's massively exciting, like it's it is
- 46:31Speaker 1: like a hockey game, and the regular Seattle doubt for
- 46:33Speaker 1: all's go to overtime tonight. I'm okay with that and
- 46:36Speaker 1: take the point, get the hell out of there. Yes,
- 46:37Speaker 1: but but three on three is really fun to watch.
- 46:41Speaker 1: I mean, you see the skill and the speed on
- 46:43Speaker 1: display like never before. It's fun.
- 46:46Speaker 3: Is it the best way to determine a game?
- 46:49Speaker 1: Well? Depends, right, It depends. Same thing with Major League Baseball?
- 46:53Speaker 1: Is the ghost runner the best way to determine a
- 46:55Speaker 1: regular season game? I think regular season? I think Major
- 46:59Speaker 1: League base gets it right. I'll be honest with you.
- 47:01Speaker 1: I think they get it right.
- 47:02Speaker 5: Really with the extra ghost runner.
- 47:03Speaker 2: Huh really?
- 47:05Speaker 1: And here's why, because baseball. Listen, baseball has worked so tirelessly.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Now we just talked about the ABS stuff or the
- 47:14Speaker 1: challenge system. What has baseball tried to do? They've tried
- 47:18Speaker 1: to shorten the games. Yes, because one hundred and sixty
- 47:21Speaker 1: two games being played at three plus hours too much, right, Yeah,
- 47:25Speaker 1: Like it's it's just too much for the average consumer,
- 47:29Speaker 1: and I think more so for the person in the stadiums.
- 47:31Speaker 1: You know, that's why. And baseball has done a good job,
- 47:33Speaker 1: like instead of playing games at seven o'clock, they start
- 47:36Speaker 1: at six thirty six forty yep. Like they've done a
- 47:38Speaker 1: good job of doing that for because that's people in
- 47:40Speaker 1: the same if I sit at home. Honestly, guys, I
- 47:42Speaker 1: don't care how long a game goes. Yeah, Like I
- 47:44Speaker 1: never cared how long a college football game went. It's
- 47:46Speaker 1: like whatever four hours I've I've carved that time out. Man,
- 47:49Speaker 1: I'm good with hell. I might not get there until halftime.
- 47:52Speaker 1: I'm good with that. Majorly, Baseball I think does it
- 47:55Speaker 1: right because with pitchers and how we treat those guys
- 47:59Speaker 1: with kid gloves, it makes like one game makes no
- 48:03Speaker 1: sense to burn guys out that one game. It could
- 48:06Speaker 1: come down to it. We all see it regular season
- 48:08Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two. In game one sixty means something.
- 48:10Speaker 1: One sixty one means something. But I like and then
- 48:13Speaker 1: get to the and get to the postseason boom. You
- 48:15Speaker 1: just go back to regular baseball and you determine it
- 48:17Speaker 1: until it's done. That's perfect. I don't mind Major League Baseball,
- 48:21Speaker 1: the NHL, the five minute overtime three on three in
- 48:24Speaker 1: the regular season, do it. Get rid of the shootout.
- 48:27Speaker 1: My thought would be, get rid of the shootout and
- 48:29Speaker 1: this if it's three on three after five minutes. Hell,
- 48:31Speaker 1: if you want to play three on three for ten minutes,
- 48:33Speaker 1: I don't care. It goes by fast because there's no whistles,
- 48:35Speaker 1: really fast, like. There's no whistles like it's if there's
- 48:37Speaker 1: a whistle, it's because a goal scored, or if somebody does,
- 48:40Speaker 1: like a goalie, maybe makes a save.
- 48:42Speaker 3: But it's rares. It's rare.
- 48:43Speaker 1: There's a whistle and a three on three, and then
- 48:45Speaker 1: go to it and screw the shootout.
- 48:47Speaker 3: It's worthless. It's dumb.
- 48:48Speaker 1: It's a skills competition. It shouldn't determine anything more so
- 48:51Speaker 1: than a three on three skills competition. I get rid
- 48:53Speaker 1: of the shoot out. Playoffs to go back to five on
- 48:55Speaker 1: five twenty minutes. Perfect. Then you play playoffs. All bets
- 48:59Speaker 1: are off. I'll get back the Olympics in a second.
- 49:01Speaker 1: NBA and college basketball, there's no issues. They play a
- 49:03Speaker 1: five minute overtime. If it's not determined after five minutes,
- 49:06Speaker 1: you play five more minutes. Whatever it's done. Well, college
- 49:11Speaker 1: football twenty five yard line. I used to love this.
- 49:13Speaker 1: I'll get to the NFL in a second. The twenty
- 49:15Speaker 1: five yard line. They've changed it now, so the second
- 49:19Speaker 1: overtime you got to go for two and if there's
- 49:20Speaker 1: still a tie after that, then you just play. Then
- 49:23Speaker 1: you turn into the college football version of a shootout
- 49:25Speaker 1: and you alternate two point tries. Gimmicky, but college football.
- 49:29Speaker 1: By then you've played three and a half four hours.
- 49:33Speaker 3: I get that.
- 49:34Speaker 1: I don't have a huge qualm with it, and I
- 49:35Speaker 1: think I think it's fine, and it's actually pretty damn exciting.
- 49:38Speaker 2: And a way you go, what about in the playoff?
- 49:41Speaker 4: Would you like it to do what the other sports
- 49:42Speaker 4: do and go back to regular Yeah, And.
- 49:44Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to that because I think the NFL
- 49:45Speaker 3: is the key.
- 49:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 49:46Speaker 3: I think when you get to the NFL.
- 49:48Speaker 1: So the NFL has a ten minute overtime, both teams
- 49:50Speaker 1: get a possession now, as we all know, So it's
- 49:53Speaker 1: still kind of based on the coin toss, you know,
- 49:56Speaker 1: and there's some strategy there.
- 49:57Speaker 3: If you win it, do you want the ball? Do
- 49:58Speaker 3: you not want the ball? All those?
- 50:00Speaker 1: Right?
- 50:00Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 50:01Speaker 1: In the playoffs, it's a fifteen minute overtime and then
- 50:04Speaker 1: you keep going and turns into sudden death at both
- 50:06Speaker 1: teams score, which is fine. I think the NFL could,
- 50:10Speaker 1: and even for a college football playoff, I think you
- 50:12Speaker 1: would just.
- 50:12Speaker 3: Be really simple, just play.
- 50:14Speaker 1: Just play a fifteen minute overtime or a ten minute overtime,
- 50:17Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. And in the NFL in
- 50:20Speaker 1: the regular season, play a ten minute overtime or a
- 50:22Speaker 1: fifteen minute overtime, probably ten. And if it's still tied, fine,
- 50:28Speaker 1: but it's just ten minutes. It's not sudden death ever.
- 50:31Speaker 2: Just play, ok so just a regular extra quarter.
- 50:34Speaker 1: You're playing ten minutes. Yeah. And so if a team
- 50:37Speaker 1: has a nine minute drive and they score a touchdown,
- 50:40Speaker 1: you got a minute.
- 50:40Speaker 2: To score, right, that's it.
- 50:42Speaker 1: Or if a team scores a touchdown, you get the ball,
- 50:46Speaker 1: you kick a field goal, and then they get the
- 50:48Speaker 1: ball back, they kick a field and they kick a
- 50:50Speaker 1: field goal, you get the ball back, you score, go
- 50:53Speaker 1: for two, you win it. You know what I'm saying,
- 50:54Speaker 1: Like you just it's a cumultive thing.
- 50:55Speaker 5: So you're playing the full ten minutes no matter.
- 50:57Speaker 1: Why play the full ten minutes and after full ten minutes,
- 50:59Speaker 1: you play the full ten no matter what tie after
- 51:02Speaker 1: that simple, I think that's the easiest solution. I don't
- 51:04Speaker 1: know why you don't just do that. We see a
- 51:06Speaker 1: lot of NFL overtimes now going almost ten minutes if
- 51:09Speaker 1: not yeah right, yeah, Like we see that often now, and.
- 51:12Speaker 6: Then there is more strategy to like, if you're the
- 51:13Speaker 6: team that gets it first, you can take a super
- 51:16Speaker 6: long drive exactly and like try and leave less time
- 51:19Speaker 6: on the clock for the opposing team, or play game or.
- 51:22Speaker 3: A field goal.
- 51:23Speaker 1: You go for a field goal and if you get
- 51:25Speaker 1: a stop, great, Yeah, you get the ball back, you score,
- 51:27Speaker 1: you're up by ten, you're probably gonna win the game.
- 51:29Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I just just play the ten minutes.
- 51:31Speaker 1: Instead of this, because really, at the end, the team
- 51:35Speaker 1: with the ball first still has a massive advantage. And
- 51:37Speaker 1: that's based on a coin flip. Like that's based on
- 51:40Speaker 1: a coin flip. Right, stupid? The three on three in
- 51:43Speaker 1: the Olympics, I think, is is it? The discussion I
- 51:46Speaker 1: thought was dumb in a sense, they had to get
- 51:49Speaker 1: games in a certain amount of time. They only had
- 51:52Speaker 1: with the two rinks they played in. They had the
- 51:54Speaker 1: men's tournament and the women's tournament, although the women did
- 51:56Speaker 1: in on Thursday, but you still had two tournaments going on,
- 51:58Speaker 1: a lot of teams, a lot of games. You had
- 52:00Speaker 1: to fit those games in, and.
- 52:02Speaker 3: I didn't like it.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Necessarily for the gold medal game, I don't think the
- 52:06Speaker 1: closing ceremonies mattered at all. I don't think any players
- 52:09Speaker 1: went to those right from the two teams. Right, ain't
- 52:12Speaker 1: no way that you went. Well, there's no way those
- 52:14Speaker 1: guys went. Canada was pissed off at the world, right
- 52:17Speaker 1: they were. They were sideways.
- 52:19Speaker 2: Did you watch the silver metal presentation?
- 52:21Speaker 1: Well, and then they get the little plushy dog?
- 52:24Speaker 2: How insult to injury?
- 52:25Speaker 1: Is that?
- 52:26Speaker 2: Just here's something to sleep tonight?
- 52:29Speaker 3: Well, do you know what?
- 52:30Speaker 1: Finlan wasn't there? They were launched on Filin was gone.
- 52:32Speaker 1: They got the bronze medals and left the day before,
- 52:35Speaker 1: so they weren't even out there. Just play that until
- 52:37Speaker 1: it's over. That that's the one game you can play
- 52:40Speaker 1: till it's over. The rest of them at three on three,
- 52:42Speaker 1: I get it. They just they didn't. None of the games
- 52:44Speaker 1: went to shootouts, which is nice. They all got decided right,
- 52:47Speaker 1: the ones went overtime. But but just play the game
- 52:50Speaker 1: for the gold medal. Play it till it's over five
- 52:52Speaker 1: on five. And if it goes and bleeds into God,
- 52:55Speaker 1: for listen, if it bled into the closing ceremonies, which
- 52:58Speaker 1: were two hours later or three hours later, and it
- 53:01Speaker 1: might have been two hours away. And again, none of
- 53:03Speaker 1: those players are going to the closing ceremonies, guys.
- 53:05Speaker 2: But you're also not gonna lose ratings. They'll tell you
- 53:07Speaker 2: that much.
- 53:07Speaker 1: You're gaining ratings at that point.
- 53:09Speaker 2: That's actually a perfect lead in.
- 53:11Speaker 1: So that's my that's my that's my dissertation on overtime.
- 53:15Speaker 1: You get your talkbacks. But I think the NFL is
- 53:17Speaker 1: the one that needs to be fixed the most in
- 53:18Speaker 1: the regular season and just go to in the regular
- 53:21Speaker 1: season a very simple you're gonna play and even the
- 53:24Speaker 1: postseason postseason, make it fifteen minutes, make it a full period,
- 53:28Speaker 1: you know, and or go to ten and then flip fields,
- 53:30Speaker 1: flip sides of the field, whatever it is. But I
- 53:32Speaker 1: think the NFL could do that and be better off.
- 53:34Speaker 1: And as you said, some of the three on three
- 53:35Speaker 1: go yeah.
- 53:36Speaker 6: I mean, there's two kind of parts to this question
- 53:38Speaker 6: for me. Number one, I want to make a quick
- 53:40Speaker 6: advocate for ties, because you mentioned it a couple of times.
- 53:43Speaker 6: I know, soccer guy talking about ties here is going
- 53:45Speaker 6: to come off as you know. That's fine if you
- 53:47Speaker 6: have a tie, and I know that there's this stigma around,
- 53:50Speaker 6: you know, not wanting to see a game that you
- 53:52Speaker 6: paid for end in a tie. And I understand that
- 53:54Speaker 6: to some extent, right, But I want to say in
- 53:58Speaker 6: a league like you know, in soccer or just any
- 54:01Speaker 6: you know league around the world, and even an NFL,
- 54:03Speaker 6: at times, it does add an amount of urgency because
- 54:06Speaker 6: I think sometimes when you know that there's that overtime period,
- 54:09Speaker 6: the teams can take the foot off the gas the
- 54:11Speaker 6: last couple of minutes, right, and it doesn't it doesn't
- 54:14Speaker 6: add that extra you know, urgency towards the end of
- 54:17Speaker 6: the regulation, so to speak, when you know that there's
- 54:20Speaker 6: that extra time, right, you can play to go to overtime,
- 54:23Speaker 6: get that extra point or so to speak. Versus you know,
- 54:26Speaker 6: there's teams that like, all I need is a tie
- 54:28Speaker 6: in this game. There's a team that needs to win
- 54:29Speaker 6: to kind of move up in the standings, and it
- 54:31Speaker 6: creates so much other stuff So that's the first aspect
- 54:34Speaker 6: of it that I want to mention that it's not
- 54:36Speaker 6: the end of the world to have things end in ties,
- 54:38Speaker 6: and I want to I want to have people open
- 54:40Speaker 6: up to that a little bit.
- 54:41Speaker 5: I understand if you tw twenty sixteen.
- 54:42Speaker 1: By the way, yeah there's twenty sixteen. The Seahawks played
- 54:45Speaker 1: famously that tie, yes, down in Arizona. Maybe the worst
- 54:49Speaker 1: football game I ever had to cover in my life. Yeah,
- 54:51Speaker 1: it was awful, but because it was a tie, it
- 54:55Speaker 1: was just awful.
- 54:56Speaker 4: For six three Cleveland games that I didn't cover that one.
- 55:02Speaker 1: But but here's the thing with that game in twenty sixteen.
- 55:05Speaker 1: I remember the story we did after the game and
- 55:08Speaker 1: talking to players in the game. The Seahawks ended up
- 55:10Speaker 1: winning the division that year, right, Yeah, they won the
- 55:13Speaker 1: division that year. That tie was massive because there's strategy, Yes,
- 55:17Speaker 1: depending on what time of the year that game is played,
- 55:20Speaker 1: there's a lot of strategy that goes into It's like,
- 55:22Speaker 1: for Seattle, they wanted to win, they could not lose.
- 55:26Speaker 1: Let's just put it that. They had to win, they
- 55:28Speaker 1: couldn't lose. So a tie for them was a win
- 55:31Speaker 1: that day. And even though like the locker room felt
- 55:34Speaker 1: really weird, but they didn't feel like a loss. I'll
- 55:36Speaker 1: tell you that he walked into there in Glendale. It
- 55:38Speaker 1: did not feel like a loss. And the guy the
- 55:40Speaker 1: story I did that night for Fox, it was it
- 55:43Speaker 1: was a tie, but it was a win. They finished
- 55:45Speaker 1: ten to five and one in the division that year.
- 55:47Speaker 5: Yeah, and there is an element to that.
- 55:49Speaker 6: Then there comes like, oh, the team's defending a little
- 55:51Speaker 6: bit more, they don't have to necessarily go for it.
- 55:53Speaker 6: Then the other team's so desperate to get that win. Right,
- 55:55Speaker 6: So there's a lot of other stuff. But if you
- 55:58Speaker 6: are going to go to overtime, right, the question is
- 56:00Speaker 6: do you want it to look like the regulation or
- 56:03Speaker 6: do you want it to be different? And does that
- 56:06Speaker 6: change for regular season to playoffs? Those are kind of
- 56:08Speaker 6: the two main things for me.
- 56:09Speaker 1: I think it changes for the playoffs. I think playoffs change. Yes,
- 56:12Speaker 1: I said I think baseball gets it right. I think baseball.
- 56:16Speaker 1: This is so weird to say baseball gets it right.
- 56:19Speaker 1: It is kind of right. It doesn't seem correct, but
- 56:22Speaker 1: baseball has it correct. And I think in the NFL,
- 56:25Speaker 1: a ten minute overtime, yes, you're gonna bleed into the
- 56:27Speaker 1: TV windows and that's their biggest concern because Fox and
- 56:31Speaker 1: CBS don't want that, or if now you do have
- 56:34Speaker 1: a buffer, if it's a late game, because the NBC
- 56:36Speaker 1: game doesn't start till an hour or so after the
- 56:38Speaker 1: other game's end the late window.
- 56:39Speaker 3: But but you I get that, I get the TV element.
- 56:43Speaker 1: But honestly, most people are gonna be watching that overtime
- 56:46Speaker 1: and unless and if it's maybe, if it's not your team,
- 56:49Speaker 1: if it's you know, god, if it was Tennessee and
- 56:51Speaker 1: the Jets this year, you'd be like, whatever, man, I'll
- 56:53Speaker 1: flip it off.
- 56:53Speaker 3: Unless you have a fantasy.
- 56:54Speaker 1: Implication or something.
- 56:55Speaker 2: Well that does change things.
- 56:57Speaker 1: It does, it does change things. But I think they
- 56:58Speaker 1: get it right. Andrews, you don't like my baseball take.
- 57:02Speaker 6: I don't love the extra ghost runner. To me, it
- 57:05Speaker 6: is a little gimmicky. Uh, it changes the game more
- 57:09Speaker 6: than I want it to see. I'm someone who I'm
- 57:11Speaker 6: kind of in the middle. I don't want just another
- 57:13Speaker 6: marathon games. I don't necessarily love the NHL playoff overtime.
- 57:18Speaker 6: I I really like the three on three personally. I
- 57:20Speaker 6: think it's still the same, like core aspects of hockey
- 57:24Speaker 6: is very very similar. You're not giving one team an
- 57:26Speaker 6: advantage because they're the home team and they get to
- 57:29Speaker 6: you know whatever, it's it's it's hockey, but it's quicker
- 57:32Speaker 6: and you end up finishing the game faster, and I
- 57:34Speaker 6: think that's kind of a good happy medium for me.
- 57:36Speaker 6: I hate the shootout as well, so I'm not even
- 57:38Speaker 6: gonna touch that, but the three on three is like
- 57:41Speaker 6: a good like you're still kind of speeding up the
- 57:42Speaker 6: game a little bit.
- 57:43Speaker 5: It's fun to watch.
- 57:44Speaker 1: Like you said, no whistles regular season.
- 57:49Speaker 6: I mean, I I understand see now. I really liked
- 57:53Speaker 6: in the All Star Game the swing off. That's that's
- 57:56Speaker 6: a whole nother thing. It's kind of like a shootout.
- 58:02Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it needs to change, but it's
- 58:04Speaker 6: just not my favorite overtime.
- 58:05Speaker 5: Gotcha, yeah, got yah?
- 58:06Speaker 3: Yeahright, just real quick, which which one which needs to
- 58:08Speaker 3: be changed?
- 58:09Speaker 1: Well?
- 58:09Speaker 4: I really don't like to shoot out too, so we'll
- 58:12Speaker 4: take that off the table. I am in full agreement
- 58:14Speaker 4: when it comes to that in any sport that does it,
- 58:16Speaker 4: but you know, hockey, soccer, don't like it, don't like it.
- 58:19Speaker 4: I want the game in an extra inning, extra anything situation,
- 58:24Speaker 4: extra time. I want it to look exactly like the
- 58:27Speaker 4: regular game.
- 58:28Speaker 2: I don't like the.
- 58:29Speaker 4: Ghost Runner at all, however, because in the postseason it
- 58:32Speaker 4: goes back to regular baseball.
- 58:35Speaker 2: I'm willing to accept it because.
- 58:37Speaker 4: It speeds up the game in one hundred and sixty
- 58:40Speaker 4: two game season and in a postseason gold medal match,
- 58:43Speaker 4: any anything like that college football playoff. I want it
- 58:47Speaker 4: to be as close to regulation time as humanly possible,
- 58:51Speaker 4: and it should just be an extension of the regular game.
- 58:55Speaker 1: I'll just I'll wrap it up this before we get
- 58:57Speaker 1: to break. We want your talkbacks as well. Go the
- 58:59Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app red microphone speaking to it talk will hear
- 59:02Speaker 1: your thoughts as well. I like the Ghost Runner because
- 59:05Speaker 1: what it lends itself to is a debate about whether
- 59:07Speaker 1: or not you should bunt, and then that leads to very,
- 59:10Speaker 1: that leads to very that leads to very entertaining text
- 59:13Speaker 1: threads between the Molly Whoppers and Andrews On. About a
- 59:17Speaker 1: dozen or two times a year, I'm sitting there late
- 59:20Speaker 1: at night, having a cocktail, relaxing, and all of a
- 59:22Speaker 1: sudden look at my phone and I'm like, oh God,
- 59:24Speaker 1: here we go. Someone either bunted or didn't bunt. And
- 59:28Speaker 1: then with a ghost runner on anders In chimes in,
- 59:31Speaker 1: and then Nathan chimes in with words that we can't
- 59:33Speaker 1: understand because they're really big and lots of syllables and exactly,
- 59:37Speaker 1: and then Chris comes up with normally like the Voice
- 59:41Speaker 1: of Reason. That's how it usually ends up. But I'm
- 59:43Speaker 1: always entertained by it because I just sit back and
- 59:44Speaker 1: watch it. But anyway, that's it. We'll get your thoughts
- 59:46Speaker 1: text line. Also, the talkbacks come up next nine three
- 59:48Speaker 1: point three KHRFM.
- 59:54Speaker 8: From the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast studio. Now
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- 1:00:05Speaker 12: On Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R FM.
- 1:00:15Speaker 5: And Jess Anders Checks and Thunson, Jimmy here, Tipity check
- 1:00:18Speaker 5: it in.
- 1:00:18Speaker 7: You know, I'm just.
- 1:00:19Speaker 13: Excited to be a sales sports fan right now. Seafp's
- 1:00:21Speaker 13: just won the Super Bowl. They're gonna go back to back.
- 1:00:22Speaker 13: Mayors are gonna do it all this year. They're gonna
- 1:00:24Speaker 13: go back to back. Crackhund are gonna win three the
- 1:00:25Speaker 13: next four Stanley Cups. Storm, We're gonna do it all
- 1:00:27Speaker 13: this year with their new head coach Tanker for Junior
- 1:00:29Speaker 13: just came out of retirement and hit a six hundred.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: Poet over run.
- 1:00:31Speaker 13: Shawn tamp just dunked to basketball sounders at seven thirty.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Hey, what is soft? Are you gonna drink the Yurova water?
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Like he said?
- 1:00:37Speaker 9: You would.
- 1:00:39Speaker 10: Start to kind of piss me off. You guys, can't.
- 1:00:43Speaker 10: I can't let him get out of this. He won
- 1:00:45Speaker 10: the Super Bowl. He said he would drink the year
- 1:00:47Speaker 10: on the water from the the press box Levi Stadium.
- 1:00:52Speaker 10: Make him do it, don't let him be okay.
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: Two things, One more Jackson Felts, please, please more Jackson
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: Felts please. Two Did he say he would drink the
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: water out of the urinal in the stadium?
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: Yeah, we have it on tape.
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: And he was the reason this all start is because
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: there's a sign above the urinal that says it.
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: Made me take He made me take a picture of it. Oh,
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: okay when I was there, And last time I was
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: there was twenty twenty three, and he texted me during
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: the game and said, I need you to take a
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: picture of the sign in the urinal at Levi Stadium
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: because he had seen it when they went down there
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: for the Pac Pac twelve championship game and was just
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: and you know, I mean he was enamored by it,
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: like he thought it was. I mean, they're just he
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: was just done for the rest of the game. I
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: don't think he even know who won the game, like up there.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: So I so here was a bad thing. I go
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: into the bathroom and you know, I'm like, okay, well
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: I'll get a picture of it. I think I did
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: during the playoff games. I was the year the plaf no,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: I was year before. Anyway, I'm in there and there's
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: only two yurnals in the press box bathroom. So I
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: go in there. I'm looking around. Nobody's in there. All right,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: I'll take take my phone out and take a picture.
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: And I'm doing that and some dude walks in. Well,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: you have a camera in a bathroom. That's just not
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: just not good. So I took one for the team
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: for Softie there, send it back to him to use,
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: and it is stupid, like do not drink the water. Really,
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: Thanks Santa Clara. Thanks well, I like.
- 1:02:26Speaker 4: To go by Every sign exists for a reason, for
- 1:02:29Speaker 4: a reason.
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I guess our reason is is
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: one works there there we go. That's why they have
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: to put it up because John Len's there, I would say,
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: And as far as that, yeah, we do have water.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: There's some bets to be replayed. I still have a
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: group's gonna do my radio show one day and probably
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: in my career. I gotta we gotta find a day
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: for that, Jess.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we have a short show coming up.
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: They're only gonna do an hour. They're gonna do an
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: hour two okay, Okay, then they're gonna do it. They're
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: gonna do cross talk with Softy.
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: That's fun, Okay, I like that.
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: That'll be Entergy.
- 1:03:00Speaker 9: Okay.
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: So the two o'clock hour.
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: We're just gonna find a date all right.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: Okay, I would say it will be in the next
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: month though starts. Oh, we could do it during like
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: the All Star break.
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: We'll find a time.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: Yeah, find a time. Okay. Uh So those are those
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: are both there? Okay, good give me two more.
- 1:03:16Speaker 14: Look, the focus of this team is defense. They're the battery,
- 1:03:19Speaker 14: So you got to bring back as many of those
- 1:03:21Speaker 14: guys as you can. And between Jason and Walker, I
- 1:03:23Speaker 14: don't think anybody disputes Jason as the priority, all right,
- 1:03:27Speaker 14: So I get the draft class. Maybe he ain't great,
- 1:03:29Speaker 14: but there's free agents out there who I think you
- 1:03:31Speaker 14: can go get cheaper.
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: You go and get Brits Hall.
- 1:03:33Speaker 14: So people like you didn't do anything for the Jets yet, well,
- 1:03:36Speaker 14: nobody does anything for the Jets. They're the Jets and
- 1:03:38Speaker 14: Sam Darnold okay, or now Azie Harris or Nick Chubb.
- 1:03:42Speaker 14: I'm just saying somebody to spell until sharbon Nay gets
- 1:03:47Speaker 14: who cares?
- 1:03:49Speaker 12: If there's a few ties, I think it would make
- 1:03:52Speaker 12: you more interesting and more urgent for teams to do
- 1:03:55Speaker 12: things and regulations.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: Perfect, all right, I'm gonna we're gonna tackle over time
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: in a second. Let me just read this real quick.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: And did you say to the crack and the only
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: two wins against the Stars and four plus years it
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: took him to game some of the playoffs.
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: Those are two wins in.
- 1:04:07Speaker 5: The regular seas regular season?
- 1:04:09Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, just clarify that. Okay. I love this one.
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: Talking about overtime, this is this is and I think
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: you've mentioned Jack Jackson, Cheezo Jackson handers this Sounder's seven
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: thirty for soccer. Overtime starts with ten players each and
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: then they drop every five minutes. You drop a player
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: until someone scores. Yeah, taxis, drop a defender, drop a midfielder,
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: drop a forward. Who do you drop? So you go
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: from eleven on eleven to ten to nine to eight
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: until somebody scores.
- 1:04:37Speaker 6: This has been a talking point amongst soccer fans for
- 1:04:40Speaker 6: a long time because most soccer fans hate the shootout
- 1:04:42Speaker 6: as well. Yeah, and then, but the thing is, when
- 1:04:44Speaker 6: you play overtime, it's not much happens because they're just
- 1:04:48Speaker 6: so safe because they know the shootout is coming. Right,
- 1:04:52Speaker 6: So I would like this a lot. It's very similar
- 1:04:54Speaker 6: to what Edzo said yesterday when you asked him about
- 1:04:56Speaker 6: the three on three. He said, all right, you play
- 1:04:57Speaker 6: the first period five and five. That doesn't, you know,
- 1:05:00Speaker 6: have anything happen if second period, four and fourth, third period,
- 1:05:03Speaker 6: and then pass that on three on three, which I
- 1:05:05Speaker 6: like two h.
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: Six, Screw the ghost runner. If you can't handle real
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: extra innings, you don't deserve baseball. I love an eighteen
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: inning game. Signed Chuck Pallain.
- 1:05:13Speaker 4: I'm got to with them on that though, because it's
- 1:05:15Speaker 4: I mean, how many there's so few and far between.
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: Well, here's another one.
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Baseball should play for max three extra innings of still
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: a tie after three extra innings, the game ends in
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: a tie.
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: Baseball will never have a game.
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: End of the tie.
- 1:05:26Speaker 3: Never.
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Yeah, every other sport has had ties. The NFL still
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: has ties, college football used to have ties, and hockey
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: used to have ties as well. Yeah, in the single
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: that would be a whole that's like a restructuring of
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: everything in baseball if you went with the tie.
- 1:05:42Speaker 6: And the thing about these overtime situations is the reason
- 1:05:44Speaker 6: why the NBA and you know, college basketball, it's pretty easy.
- 1:05:49Speaker 5: It is because there's so much scoring, right, yes.
- 1:05:51Speaker 6: And it's pretty very unlikely you're going to have one
- 1:05:54Speaker 6: of those marathon games that continues to have a tie
- 1:05:58Speaker 6: after the regular time. But when there's games that are
- 1:06:01Speaker 6: less scoring like hockey, soccer, baseball, stuff like that, it's
- 1:06:05Speaker 6: it's a lot harder to kind of get it after
- 1:06:07Speaker 6: you know, to the fact.
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: Again outside the box, thinking here, hockey goes three on three,
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: baseball does the extra runner. Yeah, can football do like
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: seven on seven? We can figure out which positions to omit.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: That's from the four, two, five, seven on seven.
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: I don't like it.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: Well as I think football is still about blocking, but
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: but I like you know what. I like the creativity
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: there seven on seve. There are people that love their
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: seven on seven. Chriss that signed Chris Kid, Yeah, I
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: might have signed Chris Kid actually.
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: Wants to fight football as well.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Okay, let's see uh where what?
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: I like this one? Up here?
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: Yeah, far away?
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: The two of six.
- 1:06:45Speaker 4: There is only one solution to NHL over time, Like
- 1:06:47Speaker 4: the beginning of the movie Troy, each side bringing out
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: their best fighter or goon.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: Winner gets two points for the team.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: Love it.
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: I really like that one.
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: Four ties go against everything the Constitution and declaration of
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: a dependence stand for.
- 1:07:02Speaker 5: I get it.
- 1:07:02Speaker 6: It's not everyone's favorite concept, but I've gotten used to it,
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: so it is what it is.
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: Oh, let's see three on three is so exciting since
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: Nick the whole game should be this way. Joking sort of,
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: I've heard people talk about that, Oh I'll just go
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: three on three.
- 1:07:15Speaker 3: Well, yeah, no, it's not.
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: That's a different sport.
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: That's a different sport. It's like, like, does anybody watch
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: they watch much of the three on three women's league
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: called Unrivaled.
- 1:07:24Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually think it's pretty pretty fun to watch. Personally.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: The court's a little smaller, right, Yeah, still, what's wild
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: about that is it's three on three, but it's full
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: court basketball, right right, I've watched glimpses of it. It's
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: I don't hate it. I'll just say that, I don't
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: hate it.
- 1:07:41Speaker 5: No, it's it's but it's a different sport, Yeah, it is.
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: It's a totally different sport.
- 1:07:45Speaker 6: Well, that goes to my question earlier, how much do
- 1:07:47Speaker 6: you want to change it for over time? Some people
- 1:07:49Speaker 6: don't want it to change it all, and you're fine
- 1:07:50Speaker 6: with the marathon games, you know, but if you do
- 1:07:53Speaker 6: want to kind of have it end a little bit quicker,
- 1:07:55Speaker 6: it's like, how much do you want to change.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: Eight four three? I don't know where the hell that's
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: at college football got it right before the two point
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: conversion thing? Remember that LSU game that went seven overtimes? Perfect? Well,
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: what did Georgia Georgia and Georgia Tech two years ago went,
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: I mean god, they went like eight nine overtimes and
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: that was with the two point conversion.
- 1:08:16Speaker 3: Do you guys remember that one? Yeah?
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: Like Haines King, the Georgia Tech quarterback and Carson Beck
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: I think for Georgia, right, and they went toe to toe.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: It was crazy. I mean it was still even though it'
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: from the two and there were times when like okay,
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: you know from the two yard line, no nothing, then
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: the other team like they're gonna win this, nope, incomplete pass.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: I mean it was crazy, it was wild. Wow, wow, Okay,
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: what else we got? I'd rather pay Walker fourteen than
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: JSN forty. Talking about the contracts, I just wanted to get.
- 1:08:44Speaker 5: That one in really silly.
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: The problem in the NFL, the NFL, it's the the
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: NFL is a housing market man. The position, much like location,
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: determines what you make.
- 1:08:58Speaker 5: Well that in the cap is continuing to rise.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: But but my point is is that like the quarterbacks
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: alway gonna be highest paid guys, right, yes, wide receivers
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: have evolved into in large part, probably the second highest
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: paid guys. I love js N, love what he did
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: this year. To hear him after one year say he
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: should be the highest paid receiver in the NFL.
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: Because his price is only going to go up next year.
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: But and so my question is this, if he repeats
- 1:09:31Speaker 1: my question, my question is this, he had an incredible season, right,
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: Is he justin Jefferson? Is he Jamar Chase Hell?
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: I think he's on that level.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: He's just not yet.
- 1:09:46Speaker 9: I think.
- 1:09:50Speaker 1: I don't want to hate on him. Yeah, the last
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: thing I want to do. I'm just saying that those
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: other guys that are that are the highest paid guys
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: in the league, they did it over a number of years, sure,
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: including the guy in your own division. And I'm no
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: pukin Nakua fan by any hose, But I like, here's
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: the thing with JSN. JSN has especially towards the end
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: of the year, he'd go a few games with you know,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: minimal receptions, right see, I still won games. Yeah, Like
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: they didn't need him to be great to win. Now,
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: maybe that's just a testament to the team, but yeah,
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: I I kind of tend to agree. I'd rather pay
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: a Walker fourteen than js N forty. That'd be me
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: some other good ones that we can't read. Let's see great.
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: I mean, listen, you guys slot out of the box
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: in terms of the over time today. I love that.
- 1:10:41Speaker 1: That was kind of fun. Okay, a little different fame
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: is going to join us coming up next all already
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: I think Fane joined us right now. Hello, sir, are you?
- 1:10:58Speaker 7: How are we doing well?
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any complaining about you guys,
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: anymore about my one to three shift you had yesterday off.
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: You've got an hour and a half show today, an
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: hour and a half show tomorrow. Fella.
- 1:11:08Speaker 3: That's that's how I'm doing. How are you a week?
- 1:11:11Speaker 7: It's a great week. It's good to be alive.
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: Man, It's good.
- 1:11:14Speaker 3: You're actually not the one that complain.
- 1:11:16Speaker 7: God blessed the seattle cracking.
- 1:11:18Speaker 1: When I go on the road.
- 1:11:21Speaker 7: You know, I'm gotta I'm gotta fired.
- 1:11:22Speaker 15: Up, and that I'm my brain, My sports brain has
- 1:11:26Speaker 15: now turned to seattle crack and hockey. Like it's you know,
- 1:11:29Speaker 15: I got to get through the football season and then
- 1:11:31Speaker 15: we have the Olympic break and all that good stuff.
- 1:11:34Speaker 15: But my I am, I'm fired up about this team.
- 1:11:36Speaker 15: You know, if they win tonight and everything goes well,
- 1:11:40Speaker 15: they could potentially be like in sixth, fifth in the
- 1:11:43Speaker 15: in the conference.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're it is. It's the tightest it's been
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: in a long time. Like it's it's like in both
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: conferences East and the West. Basically there's I'm gonna say,
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: just when you start looking at like the like the
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: three seed in the Pacific because the Central's kind of determined, right,
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: and then the two wildcard spots. There's basically five teams
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: for maybe three spots, and Seattle is one of those teams.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: And you know, just for the context, in three of
- 1:12:17Speaker 1: the first four years before this year, the Kraken were
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: out of it till December. They were out by December.
- 1:12:24Speaker 15: There was there was no Kraken season because let's be
- 1:12:27Speaker 15: let's be honest. I mean, there are a lot of
- 1:12:28Speaker 15: people out there like me, yes, that pay attention to
- 1:12:31Speaker 15: the crack and once the Seahawks are done, and if
- 1:12:34Speaker 15: the Kraken are done, when the Seahawks are done, then no,
- 1:12:37Speaker 15: they don't pay attention to the crack.
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: And from February through April.
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: You know, when when I worked in the minors, in
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: minor league hockey for years for teams and especially when
- 1:12:46Speaker 1: I was in the Western Hockey League with Seattle and
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: Tri Cities, and I used to when you're in that league,
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: you do everything right. And part of one of the
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: things we did is back then, before you know, computers
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: were a bigger thing, we would hand do schedules, have
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: scheduling meetings. And that is, honestly, the quiet, untold little
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: secret in in that league. And I think in a
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: lot of even NHL cities. Now, is hey, the hockey
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: season starts after Christmas? Yes, that's when it starts, is
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: after Christmas. Now, you know in some markets or football
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: team is awful and so maybe it's earlier. Maybe both
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: your football teams college, if you have college team and
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: your NFL team, maybe they're both awful and it's like,
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: all right, well, let's let's let's find something else. Right, Yes,
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: but hockey season for many in the in this country
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: does start, you know, after the after basically Christmas, maybe
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: after in our football season. I don't know about you
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: guys in your show. I'm going through with stuff with
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: Jess right now. Anders, I'm like, damn, we gotta get
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: ready for the draft.
- 1:13:41Speaker 7: Offseason.
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: Like part of and part of it is just like
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: like we went so long with our We went longer
- 1:13:47Speaker 1: with our NFL stuff than we ever had before. Like
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: we work in sports radio in seasons too, right, like,
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: and the last few years football seasons ended early January.
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: This year ended in the middle of February.
- 1:13:58Speaker 15: World, I mean, we may have like two weeks to
- 1:14:00Speaker 15: breathe and instead of two months to breathe.
- 1:14:03Speaker 7: That's basically what it is.
- 1:14:04Speaker 15: And you know the first time I ever realized that
- 1:14:07Speaker 15: the the ninety five Mariners. I remember, I mean them
- 1:14:10Speaker 15: getting done what like October seventeenth, eighteenth something like that, right,
- 1:14:16Speaker 15: And and then I just remember spring training starting and
- 1:14:19Speaker 15: and I went to spring training that next that next year,
- 1:14:23Speaker 15: and I was like, my god, it felt like two
- 1:14:25Speaker 15: weeks ago when the baseball season got over. And it
- 1:14:28Speaker 15: kind of feels like that again this year for the Mariners.
- 1:14:30Speaker 15: It just like the season just got didn't We didn't
- 1:14:34Speaker 15: Bizarro just serve up a bomb like last Tuesday? Really
- 1:14:37Speaker 15: well really, you know, yeah, Andy doesn't let and you know,
- 1:14:41Speaker 15: just when I bring up the Kenny Wheaton interception, so
- 1:14:43Speaker 15: I think gets all mad at me too.
- 1:14:44Speaker 7: It's just like, guys, I mean.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: Like when you bring that up, I mean it happened,
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: like it did it did happen? Well, baseball's even weird
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: too this year, because yes, it seems like just yesterday
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: we were talking about eight outs away, right, And by
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: the way I went, I asked Andrew yesterday and I
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: remember I was sitting there, like when is the first
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: regular season mirror games? Yeah, it's really early, and it's
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: March twenty sixth, right, Jeez, is that what it is.
- 1:15:10Speaker 6: The earliest traditional MLB opening day in history because.
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: March twenty six.
- 1:15:14Speaker 7: Yeah, is there a reason for that?
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 1:15:18Speaker 6: Me and Ian were speculating because of the World Cup,
- 1:15:20Speaker 6: they have to fit more games in like and then
- 1:15:22Speaker 6: maybe takes.
- 1:15:23Speaker 15: Because they're gonna take a they're gonna have fewer game
- 1:15:25Speaker 15: they got stated period.
- 1:15:28Speaker 6: They have to kind of like shift it away from
- 1:15:29Speaker 6: wherever the games are because they're not playing Mariner games
- 1:15:32Speaker 6: in World Cup games at the same time.
- 1:15:33Speaker 7: So Paul ja for my ignorance, when's the World.
- 1:15:36Speaker 15: Baseball Classic, It's like next week, okay, so they'll get
- 1:15:39Speaker 15: that in and out and the mayor I saw the
- 1:15:40Speaker 15: Mariners have like more players than just about anybody.
- 1:15:44Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know the.
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: Key with them none of their starting pitchers. That's the key, frankly,
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: is a good thing.
- 1:15:49Speaker 7: I remember Drew Smiley.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: Oh that well, what was your favorite Mariner Drew Smiley
- 1:15:55Speaker 1: moment because there weren't any. Yeah, it wasn't.
- 1:15:57Speaker 7: It wasn't when he got hurt and blew his arm
- 1:15:59Speaker 7: out in the World Baas it.
- 1:16:00Speaker 1: Was spring training because he never Yeah right, that was that.
- 1:16:04Speaker 5: Was Gabe Spires. So we can't not lose that guy.
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: That's true, that's but that's the one guy. Yeah, because
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: it's you know, cal fine. Position players don't think you
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: care about right. In fact, I would think of for
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: position players, you probably want guys to play, like getting
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: quality at bats, not against a guy that's pitching in.
- 1:16:20Speaker 6: This Maybe Julio will actually start hitting at the beginning
- 1:16:22Speaker 6: of the year for this because he'll like be like
- 1:16:24Speaker 6: this is like my second or third week instead of
- 1:16:26Speaker 6: my first.
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: Even this show, even this show, which is the Julio
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: Rodriguez basically pump up show, we love him. We love
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: that guy unlike others. Anders I don't know. Prove it
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: to me, buddy, like, just please take it happen for
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: the first two months of the season, please, just if
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: we could do that?
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: All right, fan, what do you got coming up today?
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: In your a little hour and a half extravagans before
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: and and by the way, get out on time because
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: the captain is lurking around there. Benton's ready to go.
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: He will fire it up after three weeks.
- 1:16:57Speaker 7: I will.
- 1:16:58Speaker 15: We got Mike Florio coming up in fifty minutes from
- 1:17:00Speaker 15: now to at three ten.
- 1:17:01Speaker 7: I'm gonna ask.
- 1:17:02Speaker 15: I'm gonna ask the listeners at the beginning, what what's
- 1:17:05Speaker 15: what's the biggest Seahawk worry we have right now? Like,
- 1:17:09Speaker 15: what's what's the number one thing on the minds of folks.
- 1:17:12Speaker 15: I'll ask Jackson that and I'll give you my thoughts
- 1:17:14Speaker 15: on that. And we we got to talk a little,
- 1:17:17Speaker 15: you know, you talk about a team that's been forgotten about,
- 1:17:20Speaker 15: my god, the Husky basketball team. Talk about an entire
- 1:17:24Speaker 15: season that's going to go buy in a blink of
- 1:17:26Speaker 15: an eye without anybody even noticing. And so I did
- 1:17:29Speaker 15: a little I did a little deep dive on the
- 1:17:31Speaker 15: Huskies while I was watching the game last night, and
- 1:17:34Speaker 15: some some interesting numbers popped out, and I think there's
- 1:17:37Speaker 15: some there's some real reason for for optimism for for
- 1:17:41Speaker 15: Danny Sprinkle over there at Montlake.
- 1:17:43Speaker 7: So we'll talk about that coming up at three thirty
- 1:17:45Speaker 7: on Man.
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: Can can you keep the guy? Can you keep your
- 1:17:47Speaker 3: lottery pick?
- 1:17:48Speaker 7: I don't think so. I don't think so. But you
- 1:17:51Speaker 7: know what, they don't use one of the things I mentioned,
- 1:17:53Speaker 7: they don't use.
- 1:17:53Speaker 15: Their lottery pick right anyway, So there's there's lots of
- 1:17:57Speaker 15: shots being taken by not lottery pick on this team,
- 1:18:01Speaker 15: which is a little bit of it was a little
- 1:18:02Speaker 15: bit of an issue. Petros Papadakas at four o'clock today,
- 1:18:06Speaker 15: and yes the Captain is gonna fly away with the
- 1:18:09Speaker 15: show at at four thirties.
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: He's chopping at the trust me all right shows for
- 1:18:15Speaker 1: the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.
- 1:18:19Speaker 7: This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,