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- 0:27Speaker 1: and good morning everybody. How's everybody doing today?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Well, I don't know how everyone else is, but I'm
- 0:32Speaker 2: doing just fine.
- 0:33Speaker 3: Good morning, sir.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Well, you know ROBERTA that we as authors, we're no
- 0:37Speaker 1: different than Russell Crowe in Beautiful Mind. We're always walking
- 0:40Speaker 1: with people. They may not see them, but we see
- 0:43Speaker 1: them and we listen to them, and that's how we
- 0:45Speaker 1: write books.
- 0:47Speaker 2: That's you know what a good point that is. That's
- 0:49Speaker 2: exactly right. And we listen closely too.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Yeah, we do. And sometimes they speak a language. Did
- 0:55Speaker 1: I better hurry up and get on chat GPT to learn?
- 0:58Speaker 1: I mean it's within seconds when they sit stuff towards us.
- 1:02Speaker 3: That's right, how did you?
- 1:05Speaker 1: Good morning to you too, And I'm so excited to
- 1:07Speaker 1: share a conversation with you because I want to know
- 1:09Speaker 1: about Jack. I just there's just something about this character.
- 1:12Speaker 1: I want to know how really is in your life
- 1:14Speaker 1: and how you're able to make him so real to
- 1:17Speaker 1: us as listeners, Like I can go over and knock
- 1:19Speaker 1: on his door and say, Yo, what's up dude?
- 1:23Speaker 3: Oh my goodness? Would you scare in this? Whoever did that?
- 1:28Speaker 2: But you wouldn't get close through his door because of
- 1:31Speaker 2: his bodyguards?
- 1:32Speaker 3: And you know that.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what. Because of my my instinct
- 1:35Speaker 1: and what I can do with bodyguards only because I
- 1:37Speaker 1: have to deal with them all the time. There's ways
- 1:40Speaker 1: around it there, you know. Look, if I can go
- 1:42Speaker 1: stand outside of oj Simpson's house and get around those bodyguards,
- 1:45Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of any other bodyguard, no, no, no, no, no.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Oh my.
- 1:53Speaker 1: And you know what, it really is kind of an
- 1:55Speaker 1: author's walking way on how to do that. It's by
- 1:57Speaker 1: the art of listening. I mean, isn't that what you
- 2:00Speaker 1: do as a writer. It's the art of listening.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And it's the art of remembering too. I
- 2:06Speaker 2: think that's very important. This book is based on my
- 2:11Speaker 2: own life because I share a birth year with two
- 2:17Speaker 2: important presidents.
- 2:18Speaker 3: One of them, as.
- 2:20Speaker 2: We know, actually was supposed to be the husband of
- 2:26Speaker 2: another important president, but she never quite made it. And
- 2:30Speaker 2: the other one is our president now wow. And that
- 2:35Speaker 2: was a very big year because it was when the
- 2:38Speaker 2: Greatest generation was all coming home and they were pretty
- 2:43Speaker 2: starved for little affections, so they all got a lot
- 2:45Speaker 2: of affection in that year, and therefore the Baby Boom.
- 2:48Speaker 3: Generation was born.
- 2:51Speaker 2: And this is a book about nineteen sixty eight, which
- 2:54Speaker 2: was when the Baby Boom generation finally came abased me.
- 2:58Speaker 3: That's me. Okay, well, we share that generation.
- 3:02Speaker 2: And this is about nineteen sixty eight when they finally
- 3:08Speaker 2: broke loose and did we ever break loose? And that's
- 3:13Speaker 2: who that's who the heroine is. But the hero is
- 3:18Speaker 2: someone who was a little bit older and he had
- 3:21Speaker 2: a disease which the very biggest, smartest people now have
- 3:28Speaker 2: as produce syndrome, right, and Elon Musk has it. Otherwise
- 3:33Speaker 2: he wouldn't be the first trillionaire. Well, this guy was
- 3:37Speaker 2: the first billionaire of his generation and he didn't want
- 3:42Speaker 2: any part of any of it because he just wanted
- 3:45Speaker 2: to retreat from the world because his father we find
- 3:49Speaker 2: out during this novel had been the greatest criminal of
- 3:54Speaker 2: his generation in the thirties and so and all he
- 4:00Speaker 2: was trying to do is hide his money. But he
- 4:02Speaker 2: was one of the first really criminal billionaires. He left
- 4:07Speaker 2: more than a billion dollars to his son, who didn't
- 4:10Speaker 2: wantly need to do.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Any of it.
- 4:13Speaker 2: And so our heroine, our beautiful young heroine, comes into
- 4:18Speaker 2: his life and.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Steals his heart. And that's what this book is all about.
- 4:25Speaker 1: See, and that in itself inspires me so deeply because
- 4:28Speaker 1: it's you know, as much as we talk about the
- 4:30Speaker 1: Great Generation into the Baby Boomers, there was also a
- 4:33Speaker 1: disconnection there. So the fact that you're putting things back together,
- 4:37Speaker 1: I mean, it just, oh my god, it just seems
- 4:40Speaker 1: such a special moment.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Yes. Well, the thing is people, girls, women, really girls
- 4:48Speaker 2: in the first year, maybe first couple of years of
- 4:52Speaker 2: the Baby Boom generation grew up in total skirts and ponytails,
- 4:58Speaker 2: and they were just looking for husbands because that was
- 5:02Speaker 2: all they had for choices. And I remember being in
- 5:06Speaker 2: that first first year of the Baby Boom. All we
- 5:11Speaker 2: wanted when we started college and I went to one
- 5:13Speaker 2: of the seven Sister colleges, that's all we had for hope,
- 5:17Speaker 2: get into one of those colleges and find yourself a
- 5:21Speaker 2: rich husband.
- 5:22Speaker 3: That's all we wanted. But by the.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Time we graduated in nineteen sixty eight, we were being
- 5:30Speaker 2: told we could have anything in life. Imagine having that
- 5:34Speaker 2: for your choices. And it happened between nineteen sixty four
- 5:39Speaker 2: and nineteen sixty eight, and I remember it well, wow,
- 5:43Speaker 2: And that's what this novel is really about.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I gotta tell you your planting pictures inside my head
- 5:49Speaker 1: and heart when it comes to this, because I guess
- 5:51Speaker 1: I'm one of those freaky readers that'll sit there and
- 5:54Speaker 1: even though this is set in nineteen sixty eight, I
- 5:56Speaker 1: still see twenty twenty six so blatantly right here in
- 5:59Speaker 1: front of me in those paragraphs. Because I'll tell you
- 6:01Speaker 1: what I'm when when we talk about Jack, I'm not
- 6:04Speaker 1: gonna lie to you, and I hope I don't offend you.
- 6:05Speaker 1: But I think of Baron Trump because I mean, I
- 6:08Speaker 1: I write, I I really am, because I'm seeing so
- 6:11Speaker 1: much in Baron that I've seen in past lives and
- 6:14Speaker 1: it's and and I study him in the because now
- 6:17Speaker 1: that he has his own business and we're drinking his
- 6:19Speaker 1: soft drink and it's like, oh my god, here's this
- 6:22Speaker 1: kid who wants nothing to do with any of that.
- 6:25Speaker 1: But yes, stepping forward. And I and so when I
- 6:28Speaker 1: was first introduced to Jack, I'm going, I gotta ask her,
- 6:31Speaker 1: I gotta ask her if this is about Baron and
- 6:33Speaker 1: and and I'm you know, only because I'm I'm I'm
- 6:36Speaker 1: putting the two together like this.
- 6:39Speaker 2: But Baron didn't have to horrible early, right, right? Yeah?
- 6:44Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that we know of that,
- 6:46Speaker 1: we know of it's the but but it's but it's
- 6:48Speaker 1: so but you make it so real. That's what I
- 6:52Speaker 1: love about it is that you you you put me
- 6:54Speaker 1: in a place where I'm going, really, oh my god,
- 6:57Speaker 1: I've got to dig in deeper here.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you feel that way.
- 7:03Speaker 2: The problem for Jack was that his back then, his
- 7:09Speaker 2: father was such a criminal that he was, he had
- 7:13Speaker 2: so many people killed that the only way he could
- 7:16Speaker 2: escape hell. He was a Catholic, a very strict Catholic
- 7:19Speaker 2: as they were back then, and the only way he
- 7:22Speaker 2: could escape a certain hell in the Catholic church was
- 7:25Speaker 2: to always get.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Those he had to get, you know.
- 7:29Speaker 2: But he had to go to Mass every morning obviously,
- 7:32Speaker 2: and then he he had to also go to confession
- 7:35Speaker 2: all the time. And you go to confession, you get mass,
- 7:39Speaker 2: and you go out there and kill people. That was
- 7:41Speaker 2: his life, his father's life. And this was a very
- 7:45Speaker 2: sheltered child.
- 7:46Speaker 3: Jack was. And he had a mother who was adored
- 7:50Speaker 3: by his father. But of course.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Her babies are big because Jack's father was huge, and
- 7:58Speaker 2: she's a little, tiny person. And then she was told
- 8:00Speaker 2: by her doctor she could never have more children because
- 8:04Speaker 2: her first one died, her second one almost died, she
- 8:06Speaker 2: almost died.
- 8:07Speaker 3: So what could he do?
- 8:09Speaker 2: Oh, he came over with a perfect solution. He kept mistresses.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I mean, this man is the biggest sinner in existence.
- 8:17Speaker 2: But if you go to mass, and you always always
- 8:21Speaker 2: go to Mass every morning, you know, you start out
- 8:23Speaker 2: with a clean slate. And therefore he was perfect. And
- 8:27Speaker 2: he loved his wife beyond to all reason. But of
- 8:30Speaker 2: course he could never have sex with her. So who
- 8:33Speaker 2: was the most frustrated person in the history of the universe?
- 8:36Speaker 2: Jack's mother? How did she take all of this out
- 8:40Speaker 2: on her husband? She couldn't leave him, she'd be killed,
- 8:44Speaker 2: of course, So she sexually abused Jack from his infancy.
- 8:50Speaker 2: We don't find that out until much later in the novel.
- 8:53Speaker 2: But that's one reason he was so screwed up. I mean,
- 8:58Speaker 2: when we think and expert on Christianity. I don't hate Christianity.
- 9:03Speaker 2: I love Jesus, yes, ma'am. But think about think about
- 9:07Speaker 2: what we have done to Jesus with his religions.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Think about that.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Yeah.
- 9:13Speaker 1: There's a preacher man here in Charlotte that always reminds
- 9:16Speaker 1: me and we kind of, you know, laugh it off
- 9:17Speaker 1: a little bit, we go, Wow, the day of the
- 9:19Speaker 1: Second Coming, he's going to look at us, and he's
- 9:21Speaker 1: going to go, really, the only thing that you have
- 9:24Speaker 1: been sitting here looking at is my worst day of
- 9:27Speaker 1: my life. And you found inspiration in that? Well, what
- 9:29Speaker 1: does that say?
- 9:31Speaker 2: You know what he tells us? But Jesus actually tells us,
- 9:35Speaker 2: and he's told us this repeatedly since he is Death
- 9:40Speaker 2: and Resurrection. He has said, I didn't die for your sins.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Those sins are on you. He actually says this to
- 9:50Speaker 2: us repeatedly. You can see it in a number of
- 9:56Speaker 2: communications from him since his direction.
- 10:02Speaker 3: You can. And this to me is very troubling.
- 10:06Speaker 2: I've written books about this, other books, nonfiction books, and
- 10:11Speaker 2: this is what's so very upsetting. And I talk about
- 10:15Speaker 2: that a little bit in this novel too, because I
- 10:18Speaker 2: think I would not be able to be true to Jesus.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Not to say that, but my goodness, when people live
- 10:24Speaker 2: the way Jack's father did, they screw up people like
- 10:28Speaker 2: his mother.
- 10:29Speaker 3: This is a backstory.
- 10:31Speaker 2: This is something we learned about only towards the end
- 10:33Speaker 2: of the novel, because Vixen finally draws it out of him.
- 10:39Speaker 2: But you know, this is this is a complex layered novel.
- 10:44Speaker 2: It's primarily a great love story, yes, but if you
- 10:49Speaker 2: write a romance, it's only about Hey, boy meets girl,
- 10:52Speaker 2: boy loves girl, girl loves boy. You know, they get married.
- 10:56Speaker 2: If that's all you write, it's really not worth reading.
- 10:58Speaker 2: But it's a complic love story in which he just
- 11:03Speaker 2: wants to escape this horrible life he's lived so far.
- 11:06Speaker 2: He finds this beautiful girl who falls in love with
- 11:10Speaker 2: him too, and they are trying to figure out why
- 11:14Speaker 2: he's so upset, why he's so unhappy. She tries to
- 11:18Speaker 2: make him happy, and boy, he falls in love. But plus,
- 11:21Speaker 2: he's the first young billionaire in the history of the
- 11:25Speaker 2: United States, and he's trying to work that through as well,
- 11:30Speaker 2: and I know how he would do that. Because I
- 11:32Speaker 2: have been practicing a business law for forty years. I
- 11:38Speaker 2: can tell you that story too. So there's a lot
- 11:42Speaker 2: of layers in this book, but I think in the end,
- 11:46Speaker 2: very happy layers.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Roberta. Rhymes coming up next.
- 11:54Speaker 1: Her name is Roberta Grimes. Her book Jack in Love,
- 11:58Speaker 1: We're Back. You create what I call my grandmother's sounds.
- 12:03Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is is that as
- 12:04Speaker 1: I'm going through the book, I find myself going hmmm,
- 12:07Speaker 1: or I'll go mm mm mm mm mmmm. And so
- 12:10Speaker 1: but you you allow me to do these sounds. And
- 12:12Speaker 1: the thing is, though, as you start to unveil what's
- 12:14Speaker 1: going on toward the end of the story, you're allowing
- 12:17Speaker 1: the reader to go, I knew it. And that to
- 12:19Speaker 1: me is part of the interaction because we would come
- 12:22Speaker 1: on our imaginations in this binge watching year. I mean,
- 12:25Speaker 1: we like to sit there and try to figure things
- 12:27Speaker 1: out before we get to the end of the book.
- 12:29Speaker 1: And and so we've sit there and go, oh my god,
- 12:32Speaker 1: oh well, well, well, and then and you created that
- 12:35Speaker 1: it all starts with your imagination.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Well, it all starts with what I learned back in
- 12:41Speaker 2: the sixties and in the seventies, and and I came,
- 12:47Speaker 2: I mean, she's based on me. But this my husband
- 12:51Speaker 2: has asked produced syndrome. So I know what it's like
- 12:54Speaker 2: to love a man who's that complex and to help
- 12:58Speaker 2: him understand himself better.
- 13:00Speaker 3: And so yeah, I.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Know Jack to his soul, and he is a beautiful man.
- 13:07Speaker 2: But you have to understand a man likes him or
- 13:10Speaker 2: a man like Elon Musk in order to love them.
- 13:14Speaker 2: And so I really loved him too. What beautiful things
- 13:16Speaker 2: he's doing for the world, What beautiful things that in
- 13:19Speaker 2: the end, Jack began to do for the world too.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Wow. So then when this becomes a binge watch or
- 13:25Speaker 1: a movie, you got to tell me who the heck
- 13:27Speaker 1: you're going to be putting in there as that actor
- 13:29Speaker 1: of Jack, because I suggest Marcus Rosner, who's been all
- 13:32Speaker 1: over Hallmark and who's all over these TV shows now,
- 13:35Speaker 1: because I mean, I think Johnny Depp's too old for Jack,
- 13:38Speaker 1: But I say, but that's who I am. I'm always
- 13:41Speaker 1: thinking about because this year is the year that so
- 13:43Speaker 1: many authors are getting movies on that big screen. And
- 13:47Speaker 1: I can't help Roberta but to sit here and think
- 13:49Speaker 1: that Jack in Love is on its way to that screen.
- 13:52Speaker 1: We just got to get the right actors in order.
- 13:55Speaker 3: But he's going to have to be tall. Jack is
- 13:57Speaker 3: very tall. I get him, man, part of why he
- 14:00Speaker 3: so awkward?
- 14:01Speaker 1: Yeah, see it once again. This goes back to what
- 14:04Speaker 1: I said about Baron Tall. He's tall, he's you know,
- 14:07Speaker 1: he's troubled. I get him on that screen. I want
- 14:12Speaker 1: to see him. But see once again.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Perfect.
- 14:16Speaker 1: That's exactly what you are as that writer, is that
- 14:19Speaker 1: you paint these pictures where we can actually physically see
- 14:22Speaker 1: it and we believe it more when we can associate
- 14:24Speaker 1: it with somebody that we think we know. And that's
- 14:26Speaker 1: what I love about your writing.
- 14:29Speaker 3: Oh you dear one, aren't you wonderful to say that?
- 14:33Speaker 2: Well?
- 14:33Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about this one?
- 14:36Speaker 1: Because I want I want to sit in a in
- 14:39Speaker 1: a book club and I want to talk about this
- 14:41Speaker 1: with other people, men as well as women, because men
- 14:44Speaker 1: will read a book like this as well. Don't be fooled.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Guys like books.
- 14:48Speaker 3: Like this really. Oh that's so wonderful to hear. Well,
- 14:53Speaker 3: it's about to come out.
- 14:54Speaker 2: It'll be on Amazon, it'll be it'll be in bookstores everywhere.
- 15:00Speaker 3: We are going to put it out in.
- 15:02Speaker 2: All forms so that it'll be available, Golling and just
- 15:09Speaker 2: in every form, in every conceivable form.
- 15:11Speaker 3: We're working to do that.
- 15:12Speaker 2: It's just being released now as you and I are
- 15:15Speaker 2: talking today, but it'll be It'll be in all forms
- 15:19Speaker 2: everywhere as soon as possible.
- 15:21Speaker 1: I love it. You got to come back to this
- 15:22Speaker 1: show anytime in the future, especially since I know a
- 15:25Speaker 1: secret that nobody else knows and it's going to be
- 15:27Speaker 1: edited out and they're not going to know until you
- 15:29Speaker 1: come back to this show.
- 15:32Speaker 2: I absolutely promise, and I'll come to your show firsts.
- 15:36Speaker 3: I love it.
- 15:37Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? And thank you so much
- 15:39Speaker 1: for sharing stories because there are too many people that
- 15:42Speaker 1: like to tap into their smartphones. No, you took the
- 15:45Speaker 1: time to create a place of escape.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Oh sweetheart, aren't you wonderful. I really appreciate you so much.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 15:55Speaker 3: Okay, Roberta, I promise I will do that.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Thank you.
- 15:59Speaker 3: You