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- 0:01Speaker 1: Hello friends.
- 0:02Speaker 2: I'm your host, christ Throw. I'm a former Ruleries commando.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across eighty countries
- 0:12Speaker 2: on all seven confidents. Welcome to the Port the t
- 0:16Speaker 2: Shirt Podcast. So, Toshi, how we were doing mate?
- 0:27Speaker 1: I'm all right, mate, thanks for having me back on
- 0:29Speaker 1: your show.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Absolutely that the pleasure is all mine. As they say,
- 0:35Speaker 2: I've been thinking of changing the name of Michell. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 0:38Speaker 2: you can give me your views on this, because I
- 0:40Speaker 2: know you've got a good head on your shoulders, even
- 0:43Speaker 2: though we can't see it. Haha. What was I going
- 0:47Speaker 2: to say? It's kind of funny me having a cat
- 0:50Speaker 2: in the studio because I'm not like obviously I love
- 0:53Speaker 2: all animals. That's just that's a given. But I wouldn't
- 0:56Speaker 2: say I'm like a cat person. But I bought I
- 1:01Speaker 2: bought Ruby as a gift for my girlfriend and Laddie
- 1:04Speaker 2: how I'm al fallen in love with her? Mate, you
- 1:06Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's it's it's yeah. Anyway. Now,
- 1:11Speaker 2: what I was going to say is, no one's really
- 1:13Speaker 2: going to type bought the T Shirt Podcast into Google?
- 1:16Speaker 2: Are they They're going to type Chris Throw, Yeah, and
- 1:19Speaker 2: I just wonder if it's maybe time to ditch the boat.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Friends at home, let me know what you think. Are
- 1:24Speaker 2: we going to ditch the boat the T shirt or
- 1:26Speaker 2: sure it is just for the podcast obviously, I go
- 1:29Speaker 2: live every day anyway. I'm sort of under my own steam.
- 1:33Speaker 2: So what do you reckon? Mate?
- 1:35Speaker 1: I always say, go with your intuition, whatever you think,
- 1:38Speaker 1: whatever you think is going to work, just try it.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Change is the only constant in the universe.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. Yes, change is the only constant. Brilliant. Okay,
- 1:49Speaker 2: talking about change? Shall we not change? And could we?
- 1:52Speaker 2: Could you just give a a brief sort of synopsis
- 1:57Speaker 2: of what we talked about last time, Bitcoin, BSV, et cetera,
- 2:05Speaker 2: et cetera.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Yeah, so, last time we went through the financial system
- 2:10Speaker 1: from nineteen eleven, which was when the US government took JD.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Rockefeller Standard All Company off him. That's why they committed
- 2:17Speaker 1: nine to eleven when they did in two thousand and
- 2:19Speaker 1: one nine eleven as a revenge plot or Rockefeller's revenge
- 2:24Speaker 1: plot against the citizens of the United States to bring
- 2:27Speaker 1: in their surveillance state. And then it's just the evolution
- 2:29Speaker 1: of money since then and how they've corrupted it, so
- 2:33Speaker 1: they had to first turn the medium of exchange from money,
- 2:37Speaker 1: which is a commodity, into a security, which is currency,
- 2:41Speaker 1: and then they had to remove money from currency, so
- 2:44Speaker 1: they had an unlimited amount of economic power to give
- 2:47Speaker 1: themselves an economic advantage over everybody else, so they could
- 2:50Speaker 1: just simply roll out their plans for world domination. And
- 2:53Speaker 1: it's all about how currency has moved from bits of
- 2:57Speaker 1: plastic or bits of paper to bits of plastic to
- 3:01Speaker 1: now going digital with digital internet banking and credit cards
- 3:05Speaker 1: and things like that. And now what they're having to
- 3:08Speaker 1: deal with, which they never thought was possible, was actually
- 3:11Speaker 1: the fact that Setocanakamoto has managed to commoditize data. So
- 3:15Speaker 1: whereas before they were just like, there's nobody that can
- 3:18Speaker 1: touch us, now because we've turned currency into digital figures
- 3:22Speaker 1: on a screen, there's no way that anybody's going to
- 3:24Speaker 1: be able to beat this because we can send value
- 3:27Speaker 1: as fast and as efficient as light, but it's fake value.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Whereas if you can actually commoditize data, people are going
- 3:34Speaker 1: to be economically incentivized to use that financial system because
- 3:38Speaker 1: transfer you're transferring true value with a fixed supply that
- 3:42Speaker 1: increases in value instead of goes down instead of going down,
- 3:45Speaker 1: which is what inflation is what causes all the world's problems.
- 3:49Speaker 1: And so that's what I was trying to explain in
- 3:50Speaker 1: the last one. And what's going to happen in the
- 3:52Speaker 1: future with bitcoin?
- 3:54Speaker 2: Right? And can you just explain what's the difference between
- 3:58Speaker 2: the BSV and the other bitcoin if I put it
- 4:02Speaker 2: like that.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Yes, So BSV is the is the original bitcoin protocol
- 4:07Speaker 1: that goes right their way back to the Genesis blog
- 4:09Speaker 1: when it first started. So when people say bitcoin, the
- 4:13Speaker 1: market ticker symbol of BSV is actually what is on
- 4:16Speaker 1: the original bitcoin protocol, so it's just bitcoin. BTC is
- 4:20Speaker 1: the deep state scam that the deep state has created
- 4:24Speaker 1: to distract people away from the original bitcoin protocol that
- 4:28Speaker 1: threatens their economic power and dominance. So what they've done
- 4:31Speaker 1: is they've created an alternative protocol which they control, that
- 4:35Speaker 1: has now got the market ticker symbol of BTC at
- 4:38Speaker 1: which they control because they control all the signatures on
- 4:42Speaker 1: that network. So what they don't want is people like
- 4:45Speaker 1: me explaining to people like you that the real bitcoin,
- 4:48Speaker 1: the genuine bitcoin, and the original protocol is actually BSV.
- 4:53Speaker 2: And how does that original protocol as opposed to the
- 4:57Speaker 2: mickey mouse, you know, the sham. How does that benefit
- 5:02Speaker 2: us the people?
- 5:03Speaker 1: Well, if we're so money has to be a commodity
- 5:06Speaker 1: and being there's a very big difference between being decentralized,
- 5:12Speaker 1: which is sort of very surface level, and commoditized. Commoditized
- 5:16Speaker 1: is probably about ten levels deeper than decentralized, because commoditized
- 5:20Speaker 1: literally means there is no central point of authority control
- 5:24Speaker 1: anywhere in the system, and this is why they couldn't
- 5:28Speaker 1: control Bitcoin. So what they had to do was use
- 5:30Speaker 1: their usual tricks of deception to trick people into thinking
- 5:34Speaker 1: that their new alternative protocol was Bitcoin, so that they
- 5:37Speaker 1: could control it and therefore it wasn't a threat to them.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Because if people start using a common money outside of
- 5:44Speaker 1: their central banking system, they lose control of everything because
- 5:48Speaker 1: all legal and political influence stem from economic power. And
- 5:52Speaker 1: if we're just simply using another system that they control,
- 5:55Speaker 1: we're never going to get out of this because all
- 5:57Speaker 1: they're going to do is bring in their totality in
- 6:00Speaker 1: dystopian new world order, which is, you know, their extremist
- 6:04Speaker 1: religious ideology, and they are going to wipe out everybody mate,
- 6:08Speaker 1: and I mean everyone literally if you read the Georgia guidestones,
- 6:12Speaker 1: it says on there keep the world's population under five
- 6:15Speaker 1: hundred million. So if you've got a population of eight billion,
- 6:19Speaker 1: that means somehow getting rid of and exterminating seven point
- 6:23Speaker 1: five billion of us. And there are very few people
- 6:27Speaker 1: that are going to survive that. So that's why we
- 6:29Speaker 1: have to use the money outside of their financial system,
- 6:32Speaker 1: so they lose control of everything. And this is why
- 6:35Speaker 1: I'm desperately trying to explain it. They know it, I
- 6:38Speaker 1: know it. The only people who don't know it are
- 6:40Speaker 1: the likes of you and your audience. But you and
- 6:42Speaker 1: your audience know there's a big problem, and this is
- 6:45Speaker 1: what I'm trying to explain to you.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Yeah, how what's to stop them getting involved in BSV
- 6:52Speaker 2: and changing? Yeah, I'm just talking in Layman's terms here
- 6:55Speaker 2: for a lot of us that are not as o
- 6:58Speaker 2: FAIV with us as you are. What's to stop them,
- 7:01Speaker 2: you know, jumping on the bandwagon and tweaking this and
- 7:04Speaker 2: the next thing. You know, it's just excuse my French,
- 7:06Speaker 2: but bastardized into another New World Order slave mechanism.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good, good question. So the miners who mine bitcoin,
- 7:18Speaker 1: they're the one who economically sustain the network, and they
- 7:21Speaker 1: want to ensure that the token that they are mining
- 7:25Speaker 1: has true common value, because if it doesn't have common value,
- 7:29Speaker 1: then it's securities fraud, and securities fraud will eventually be
- 7:32Speaker 1: exposed because somebody has control of it, and they, like
- 7:36Speaker 1: you said, they can tweak it, they can control it,
- 7:40Speaker 1: they can make changes to it. So the deep state
- 7:43Speaker 1: when they first altered bitcoin, which was in August of
- 7:47Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, they realized that if they removed or segregated
- 7:52Speaker 1: the digital signatures from the transaction data, you would remove
- 7:56Speaker 1: all contractual credibility and therefore economic value. Because if a
- 8:00Speaker 1: dispute arise within a trade that you can't resolve between yourselves,
- 8:05Speaker 1: you would have to go to an independent third party,
- 8:07Speaker 1: provided they won't corrupt, which is a court, and the
- 8:10Speaker 1: court would say, right, what's the issue here? First of all,
- 8:13Speaker 1: can you prove that you sent that transaction and that
- 8:15Speaker 1: they've received it, so you're the claimant and they are
- 8:19Speaker 1: and they're the plaintiff. If your digital signature is not
- 8:22Speaker 1: on that transaction, you can't prove shit, and that's what
- 8:25Speaker 1: they've done. So literally, in the same way that a
- 8:28Speaker 1: contract isn't valid if there's no signature on it. A
- 8:30Speaker 1: Bitcoin transaction has no value if there's no signature with it.
- 8:34Speaker 1: And it also means that you can't use the bitcoin
- 8:36Speaker 1: network to send valuable documents like title deeds or share certificates,
- 8:41Speaker 1: because there's no digital signature on it confirming that the
- 8:44Speaker 1: transaction is unique, and therefore they can replicate it. So
- 8:48Speaker 1: they could replicate your title deeds, they could replicate your
- 8:50Speaker 1: share certificates, they could do anything they want because there's
- 8:53Speaker 1: no digital signature on it. It's the digital signature that
- 8:56Speaker 1: makes every single transaction unique, and without that, you've got
- 9:00Speaker 1: no value on it whatsoever. And that's what they did.
- 9:02Speaker 1: But they told people it was for their benefit because
- 9:05Speaker 1: they were just like, all right, well, if we remove
- 9:07Speaker 1: the signature data, which isn't important their words, it just
- 9:11Speaker 1: means that we can fit more transactions in a block,
- 9:14Speaker 1: we won't have to increase the block size, and therefore
- 9:16Speaker 1: it will remain decentralized. Absolute bollocks. They remove the signatures,
- 9:21Speaker 1: knowing that they were removing all contractual credibility from the transaction.
- 9:25Speaker 1: And but this is why they told people not to
- 9:28Speaker 1: use it, because if people did start using it, a
- 9:31Speaker 1: dispute would arise very very quickly. Then it would be
- 9:35Speaker 1: taken to court and the judge would say, can you
- 9:38Speaker 1: prove you made that transaction? If there is no transaction
- 9:41Speaker 1: on if there is no signature on that transaction, you
- 9:44Speaker 1: can't prove anything. And therefore it has no contractal galibility
- 9:48Speaker 1: and no value because it can't be enforced. And that's
- 9:51Speaker 1: what they don't want people to find out, So they
- 9:53Speaker 1: told people not to use it. Not many use it.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Store of value digital goal bollocks the story.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Yes, I'm going to hold my hand up and say
- 10:03Speaker 2: I find this hard to grasp. But if I find
- 10:06Speaker 2: it hard, well, I'm going to say many more people.
- 10:10Speaker 2: But that's that's debatable.
- 10:13Speaker 1: What about you understand that you understand contracts though surely yes, yes,
- 10:18Speaker 1: I think what it is is when you're saying you're
- 10:20Speaker 1: telling them not to use it, I'm getting him be
- 10:22Speaker 1: what you mean telling them not to use the BSV
- 10:25Speaker 1: or the BTC. BTC they don't want. They don't want
- 10:29Speaker 1: people using BTC because they control it, and the way
- 10:33Speaker 1: they control it is because they've removed the digital signatures
- 10:36Speaker 1: from the transactions on it, which means they can reassign
- 10:39Speaker 1: blame if they want, but because the signature has been removed,
- 10:44Speaker 1: they're the ones who remove the signatures, and they're the
- 10:47Speaker 1: ones that will be on the hook for it. So
- 10:49Speaker 1: they don't want people to use it, so the disputes
- 10:51Speaker 1: won't arise. Whereas we need to use it as a
- 10:53Speaker 1: transactional digital network, right and if a digital signature is
- 10:58Speaker 1: not on the transaction, I can't prove that I've sent
- 11:01Speaker 1: anything to you, and I can't prove that you've received it.
- 11:03Speaker 2: I think the confusion is, you know, to coin a phrase.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Everyone's using bitcoin, so how are you? What do you
- 11:10Speaker 2: mean they don't want people to use it? Everyone is you?
- 11:12Speaker 2: If I was to send you money tomorrow, I'd send
- 11:15Speaker 2: it in bitcoin. I mean, you know, you might want
- 11:18Speaker 2: XRP or something, but I most likely either send it
- 11:21Speaker 2: in bitcoin or send it as USD what or pounds?
- 11:27Speaker 1: What?
- 11:28Speaker 2: What digital pounds? I mean? What how do you mean
- 11:31Speaker 2: they don't want people to use it?
- 11:33Speaker 1: Well, if you sent me a payment for a good
- 11:37Speaker 1: or a service in BTC and I didn't and I
- 11:41Speaker 1: didn't get the good or service that I wanted, or
- 11:44Speaker 1: you did a run or I did a runner with
- 11:46Speaker 1: your funds and you wanted the funds returned, you would
- 11:50Speaker 1: then have to take me to court. And the first
- 11:52Speaker 1: thing the court would ask is can you prove you
- 11:55Speaker 1: send that transaction? And the fact is you can't. So therefore,
- 11:58Speaker 1: if you sent me a transaction in BTC and I
- 12:01Speaker 1: did a runner with it, you wouldn't be able to
- 12:03Speaker 1: get it back off me.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Right. But the confusion that's coming in is I thought
- 12:08Speaker 2: you said they set that system. Are you saying they
- 12:13Speaker 2: set it up to fail?
- 12:14Speaker 1: Well, they yeah, they curtosely set it up to fail.
- 12:17Speaker 2: When we say they were talking about cabau, you know
- 12:20Speaker 2: deep deep, you know usual bollocks. Yeah, right, So they
- 12:24Speaker 2: they moved away from the original bitcoin, which is we
- 12:28Speaker 2: know as BSV, because that was a firm bet that
- 12:31Speaker 2: could have the ledger. Everything would be cemented in stone
- 12:34Speaker 2: and if you wanted to trace something back to who
- 12:37Speaker 2: paid who, at what date for what, boom, it's there.
- 12:41Speaker 2: And they didn't want so they created this mickey mouse one.
- 12:45Speaker 2: But if they created the Mickey mouse one, what I'm
- 12:49Speaker 2: getting confused about is surely they want everyone to use that, which,
- 12:53Speaker 2: let's be honest, everyone who uses digital money does use
- 12:57Speaker 2: bitcoin for the most part or at least understands it.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Why are you now saying they don't want people to
- 13:07Speaker 2: use this is what I'm not understanding. And sorry, friends
- 13:10Speaker 2: at home, if I'm laboring a point, it's just that
- 13:13Speaker 2: I'm sure there's people out there going no. I don't
- 13:15Speaker 2: get it either, Chris.
- 13:16Speaker 1: Yes, So when you say use it, what you're referring
- 13:19Speaker 1: to is trading trading on an exchange where the price
- 13:23Speaker 1: goes up and down and people pump and dump and
- 13:25Speaker 1: all this kind of crap. What they don't want is
- 13:29Speaker 1: people to understand what the network can actually be used for.
- 13:34Speaker 1: The network. The network is, for the first time in history,
- 13:37Speaker 1: a way for me and you to communicate digitally in
- 13:41Speaker 1: the private without anybody knowing. And not only can we
- 13:44Speaker 1: communicate digitally, we should be able to send documents, immutable
- 13:49Speaker 1: documents that are provably unique, like share certificates, land title deeds,
- 13:55Speaker 1: other important documents financial financial transactions. Store another safe in
- 14:01Speaker 1: the knowledge that if a dispute arises between the two
- 14:04Speaker 1: of us, we can you know, if we can't resolve ourselves,
- 14:08Speaker 1: we can present the evidence to a third party who
- 14:10Speaker 1: can see what's gone on and they can solve the
- 14:13Speaker 1: dispute for us, whereas if we were doing that in BTC,
- 14:17Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to prove anything because my signature
- 14:19Speaker 1: is not on a transaction.
- 14:20Speaker 2: Right now, we get it.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Yeah, all I'm receiving from you is is numbers on
- 14:26Speaker 1: a screen. But when they say don't use it, they
- 14:28Speaker 1: don't want the network to be used for video conferencing
- 14:31Speaker 1: like this, or phone calls or emails, because if we
- 14:35Speaker 1: communicate via video conferencing or emails or pictures or Telly
- 14:41Speaker 1: Telly chat or anything like that, they can't monitor it
- 14:44Speaker 1: because all because it's being uploaded onto the Bitcoin network
- 14:47Speaker 1: and not onto their corporate private service. But you can
- 14:50Speaker 1: only use that network if there is unbounded scale, so
- 14:54Speaker 1: the whole world can use it. So what they did
- 14:56Speaker 1: is they put they put a restriction of a very
- 15:00Speaker 1: very limited restriction of one megabyte per block, so you
- 15:03Speaker 1: can only upload one megabyte of data per ten minute block.
- 15:07Speaker 1: That's never going to suffice for worldwide Internet traffic.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Right, could you just and again very briefly in idiots terms,
- 15:16Speaker 2: Sorry folks, don't mean to be offensive, but like if
- 15:20Speaker 2: I want to upload data, say to the Internet, I
- 15:22Speaker 2: want to send you a PDF document almost a PDF
- 15:26Speaker 2: file then, and that was a PDF document. I know that.
- 15:31Speaker 2: I just you know, I get my Gmail up, I
- 15:36Speaker 2: write you an email and a click attached and through
- 15:40Speaker 2: the wizardry, you know, through the process of light fiber optics,
- 15:44Speaker 2: it digitally that the little breakdown of zeros and ones
- 15:48Speaker 2: sends that information through the air waves essent you all
- 15:52Speaker 2: through the cables to your your computer. Right.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Well, first of all, first of all, it has to
- 15:57Speaker 1: go through a corporate server that they control.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm talking about the actual mechanics. Now, how
- 16:05Speaker 2: on on on BSV or bitcoin network. You know what
- 16:11Speaker 2: I think people are thinking? Now, what do you mean
- 16:14Speaker 2: you can like updough documents. We only know that bitcoin
- 16:18Speaker 2: is digital money. That This is what I'm trying to say.
- 16:20Speaker 2: What how in what physical way? How? How if I
- 16:24Speaker 2: wanted to send you the deeds to my house, would
- 16:26Speaker 2: I do that using bitcoin?
- 16:28Speaker 1: Ah? So, so again this is what they don't want
- 16:31Speaker 1: you to know. And this this is what they're hiding
- 16:33Speaker 1: from people. So what they've done in order to prevent
- 16:36Speaker 1: people from using it. They initially installed a one megabyte blockcap,
- 16:41Speaker 1: So imagine imagine the block size on the Bitcoin network
- 16:46Speaker 1: being the equivalent to bandwidth on the internet. They were
- 16:49Speaker 1: just like, oh, well, if we can restrict the number
- 16:52Speaker 1: of people that are going to use it, people are
- 16:54Speaker 1: going to be turned off from using it. And also
- 16:56Speaker 1: it's going to limit as to what we can actually
- 16:58Speaker 1: use the network for. So eventually we don't want people
- 17:01Speaker 1: to use it. We want people to speculate on it,
- 17:04Speaker 1: and we just want people to send numbers on the
- 17:07Speaker 1: screen to one another because the clubs won't know. Because
- 17:11Speaker 1: the clubs won't know what they're doing because they're not
- 17:13Speaker 1: smart enough. We don't want them to realize that what
- 17:16Speaker 1: they In order for a genuine financial transaction to exist,
- 17:20Speaker 1: there has to be a contract, because there's only two jurisdictions.
- 17:23Speaker 1: There's criminal in which harm, injury, or loss has occurred,
- 17:27Speaker 1: and then there's contract of which two people have agreed
- 17:30Speaker 1: on something. And when I'm doing business with someone else,
- 17:33Speaker 1: if I send them a financial transaction digitally, in order
- 17:37Speaker 1: to make sure that that digital transaction has contractual credibility,
- 17:41Speaker 1: my signature needs to be on it. So they were
- 17:43Speaker 1: just like, well, if we tell the clubs, if we
- 17:46Speaker 1: remove the signatures, they can fit more data in a
- 17:48Speaker 1: block and we won't have to increase the block size.
- 17:51Speaker 1: They'll go with that because they're stupid, and that's what
- 17:53Speaker 1: they did.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm talking about the actual mechanics of the apparatus.
- 17:59Speaker 2: When you say like a network, do you mean like
- 18:02Speaker 2: a computer network that you have in the office. Does
- 18:07Speaker 2: Bitcoin have like data servers? You know, storage? This is
- 18:13Speaker 2: what I think, This is what I'm failing to grasp.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, So the Internet as we currently know it
- 18:20Speaker 1: is just simply a group of interconnected corporate servers. So
- 18:24Speaker 1: when you upload something onto the Internet, you are either
- 18:28Speaker 1: uploading it onto Google, Amazon, Facebook, Netflix, YouTube, and it's
- 18:34Speaker 1: all going onto their corporate servers. But search engines can
- 18:38Speaker 1: access those servers and they can find information for you.
- 18:42Speaker 1: But those servers are still privately owned, and when you
- 18:45Speaker 1: upload information to them, whoever it is that owns those
- 18:49Speaker 1: servers owns your content. So you're surrendering sovereignty of it.
- 18:53Speaker 1: And if they don't like what you're saying, because it
- 18:55Speaker 1: might be political politically sensitive, they will delete it. That's
- 18:59Speaker 1: what the Internet is. So what we need is a
- 19:02Speaker 1: digital network that they don't control and they can't delete.
- 19:06Speaker 1: So whereas the Internet is a group of interconnected corporate
- 19:10Speaker 1: servers in the Bitcoin network is a group of economically
- 19:15Speaker 1: competitive servers who compete to process your transactions onto a
- 19:21Speaker 1: single ledger that all of them have a record of,
- 19:24Speaker 1: so if one of them gets taken out, the others
- 19:27Speaker 1: could just keep it going. And because those corporate because
- 19:31Speaker 1: the Bitcoin network doesn't have any single jurisdiction because it's
- 19:38Speaker 1: or anybody can download the software for the Bitcoin network
- 19:42Speaker 1: and start mining it. So the mining network is distributed
- 19:45Speaker 1: worldwide and the miners aren't breaking any laws of any
- 19:49Speaker 1: countries because all they do is compete to upload your
- 19:53Speaker 1: transaction and that could be pictures, emails, anything like that.
- 19:57Speaker 1: But this is why the chain of signatures is really important,
- 20:00Speaker 1: because if somebody starts using the network for criminal activity
- 20:05Speaker 1: and uploading PDF files like you said, then there is
- 20:10Speaker 1: content on that network that people don't want and the
- 20:13Speaker 1: miners are facilitating it. So therefore, how do you move
- 20:17Speaker 1: responsibility and accountability away from the economically competitive distributed server
- 20:24Speaker 1: foundation and where do you move it to. We have
- 20:26Speaker 1: to move it onto the users of the network, so
- 20:29Speaker 1: that the users are commonly accountable to one another and
- 20:33Speaker 1: responsible individually for how they use it. So if somebody
- 20:36Speaker 1: up if somebody does upload a PDF file with CP
- 20:40Speaker 1: on it, because there's a digital signature attached to it,
- 20:43Speaker 1: the community can track and trace who it was that
- 20:47Speaker 1: uploaded that material. They can get them prosecuted for it.
- 20:51Speaker 1: But also the genuine network, the genuine BSV network has
- 20:56Speaker 1: a double hash function on it and it's the only
- 20:59Speaker 1: network that does that, which means the miners can come
- 21:02Speaker 1: to consensus and they can hash that image, that criminal
- 21:06Speaker 1: image or CP on the network. So even though you
- 21:10Speaker 1: can't get rid of it, you can hash it so
- 21:12Speaker 1: that people can't access it.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Is that what hashing means?
- 21:15Speaker 1: Is it? So hashing is like hashing is like scrambling,
- 21:18Speaker 1: scrambling an image to a magnitude where people can't put
- 21:22Speaker 1: it back together again. And this is why you have
- 21:26Speaker 1: to have a consensus mechanism so that even though the
- 21:30Speaker 1: operations are economically competitive to one another, they can still
- 21:34Speaker 1: agree with one another that a particular transaction, you know,
- 21:38Speaker 1: that includes CP on it that nobody wants to see,
- 21:42Speaker 1: that they can come to consensus and hash it all
- 21:46Speaker 1: together and get rid of that transaction on the network.
- 21:49Speaker 1: But again that would cost well. If an individual, for example,
- 21:53Speaker 1: wanted their bitcoins returned to them. They would have to
- 21:57Speaker 1: pay to reimburset the miners all their efforts. And the miners,
- 22:02Speaker 1: which are who who are earning millions every minute on
- 22:08Speaker 1: the bitcoin network, they would want to be compensated for that.
- 22:11Speaker 1: So their compensation would have to be equal to the
- 22:15Speaker 1: amount that you lost in order for it to be
- 22:16Speaker 1: economic revival. However, if there is criminal activity on there,
- 22:21Speaker 1: all you do is get an international court order and
- 22:23Speaker 1: say there is CP on that network, get rid of
- 22:26Speaker 1: it now, and the miners will comply.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Would need to be governed by natural law, I'm guessing,
- 22:32Speaker 2: so everyone can agree agree upon what gets removed and
- 22:36Speaker 2: what doesn't. Or you saying that relies on institutional law,
- 22:41Speaker 2: no common law common law?
- 22:43Speaker 1: Yeah, because because it's a it's a worldwide network and
- 22:47Speaker 1: no one government has any jurisdiction over all of the miners.
- 22:51Speaker 1: But the whole world can agree what is criminal in
- 22:54Speaker 1: common law.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just wondering how how would you actually get
- 22:59Speaker 2: that operate that you know, the judge and jury operate
- 23:02Speaker 2: us up and running. Who would that be consistent of?
- 23:04Speaker 3: Like?
- 23:05Speaker 1: Yes, so again, all all the evidence, all the evidence
- 23:08Speaker 1: would have to be presented to a jury.
- 23:11Speaker 2: So a jury who would the jury be, Like, could
- 23:15Speaker 2: I go and start a jury and be a judge
- 23:17Speaker 2: or does it have to go to like my local
- 23:20Speaker 2: town council or yah?
- 23:22Speaker 1: So it would it would be a court. It would
- 23:24Speaker 1: be a court dejure. There would there would eventually have
- 23:27Speaker 1: to go up the ladder to an international court. But
- 23:31Speaker 1: if you're questioning whether or not can this international court
- 23:35Speaker 1: you know, have jurisdiction over the bitcoin miners, well no
- 23:38Speaker 1: they can't because the miners i'd literally distributed worldwide and
- 23:43Speaker 1: the miners hold a coffee of the ledger on their
- 23:47Speaker 1: on their service. So if there is you know, CP
- 23:51Speaker 1: on there that people can access, that people don't want,
- 23:54Speaker 1: they're on the hook for that. So it's the entire
- 23:56Speaker 1: mining of it's it's the entire mining off has to
- 24:01Speaker 1: come to consensus to get rid of a single transaction.
- 24:04Speaker 1: But all the evidence would have to be in the
- 24:06Speaker 1: open so everybody can see it. So therefore you're not
- 24:09Speaker 1: going to get a corrupt judge sticking his neck out
- 24:11Speaker 1: on the line because everybody can see it. So therefore
- 24:14Speaker 1: everybody agrees, yes, this is criminal. Nobody wants CP on
- 24:19Speaker 1: their network. Get rid of it.
- 24:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just what I'm trying to get to is like,
- 24:25Speaker 2: who would that judge be? Because what I mean is
- 24:29Speaker 2: the existence system of law is failing, isn't it. It's
- 24:33Speaker 2: absolutely criminal itself. We saw that during the medical scam,
- 24:37Speaker 2: people getting arrested because they didn't want to wear their
- 24:39Speaker 2: underpants on their fricking face. You know, Yeah, people getting
- 24:42Speaker 2: arrested because they're smart enough to work out that other
- 24:45Speaker 2: people aren't responsible for your well being, only you are.
- 24:50Speaker 2: They're seeing through the you know, the subterfuge. So are
- 24:54Speaker 2: you saying it's those courts that are going to judge
- 24:57Speaker 2: what should and shouldn't be on the network, or are
- 25:00Speaker 2: suggesting that the new courts based on you know, common
- 25:05Speaker 2: law get started. I'm a bit ken us.
- 25:09Speaker 1: So this is where all legal and political influence stem
- 25:13Speaker 1: from economic power. The reason those courts are corrupt is
- 25:17Speaker 1: because they're being funded by the corrupt central banking network.
- 25:21Speaker 1: So what we need is the people need to start
- 25:24Speaker 1: using a common money between themselves so that they can
- 25:28Speaker 1: then set up political and economic systems that are not corrupt,
- 25:32Speaker 1: where everything is recorded openly on a distributed ledger, where
- 25:36Speaker 1: information can't be deleted, and if it can't be deleted,
- 25:40Speaker 1: then the evidence trail can't be corrupted.
- 25:42Speaker 2: So this is new apparatus needs to be created, is
- 25:47Speaker 2: what we're saying.
- 25:48Speaker 1: So it doesn't we don't need new apparatus. What we
- 25:51Speaker 1: need to do is get rid of the corrupt bastards
- 25:53Speaker 1: and their corruption will be exposed.
- 25:55Speaker 2: On the bitcoin network right once we switch networks, right, Okay.
- 25:59Speaker 1: So every every single so a core is meant to
- 26:03Speaker 1: be a core of record. Whereas at the moment we
- 26:05Speaker 1: go into maritime courts and they're saying, oh, the information
- 26:08Speaker 1: isn't recorded. You're not allowed to record who said what.
- 26:12Speaker 1: It's utterly criminal. We need common law courts and these
- 26:16Speaker 1: maritime admiralty administration courts need to be proven to be false,
- 26:21Speaker 1: which is what they are. And again people need to
- 26:23Speaker 1: know Howsbury's law. There is no administration court in this
- 26:27Speaker 1: country has any authority whatsoever, and no act can be
- 26:30Speaker 1: passed to legitimize them. And that's Howsbury's law. But the
- 26:34Speaker 1: reason that's not being upheld is because at the moment,
- 26:36Speaker 1: everyone is corrupt because they're being bribed, coerced and threatened
- 26:41Speaker 1: by economic power, which is backed up by the central
- 26:44Speaker 1: banks who create currency from nothing. But when people start realizing.
- 26:47Speaker 1: We'll hold on a minute. You know, you're creating currency
- 26:51Speaker 1: from nothing. That's fraud. This is why I'm saying, people
- 26:54Speaker 1: like me and you need to be holding one or
- 26:56Speaker 1: two of these coins because there are worth hundreds of millions.
- 26:59Speaker 1: And this is why they don't want me telling you this,
- 27:02Speaker 1: because if I had hundreds of millions of dollars at
- 27:05Speaker 1: my disposal, I would work at putting the corruption right.
- 27:08Speaker 2: Okay, right, I think we're all on point now. I
- 27:12Speaker 2: think with these conversations we always have to remember that
- 27:16Speaker 2: what we know in our head is very difficult for
- 27:18Speaker 2: other people to comprehend, and stuff that comes to us,
- 27:22Speaker 2: you know easily is you know, it's like trying to
- 27:26Speaker 2: explain imagine playing chess with a novice. You just get
- 27:30Speaker 2: well frustrated if you expected them to know everything. So
- 27:34Speaker 2: that said, I'm I'm going to go over a few
- 27:38Speaker 2: of the questions that were raised from last time, because
- 27:41Speaker 2: a lot of them were really really valid. Some were
- 27:43Speaker 2: a bit sort of I think they just didn't get
- 27:46Speaker 2: the point. So the first thing I'm going to ask
- 27:48Speaker 2: you is I had people emailing me saying, Chris, can
- 27:55Speaker 2: either you or Satoshi inform me how do I by
- 28:00Speaker 2: how do I actually like say, I knew nothing about
- 28:04Speaker 2: digital coins whatever. I don't know the terminology, I don't
- 28:08Speaker 2: know what the platform.
- 28:09Speaker 1: You know.
- 28:10Speaker 2: I've got a smartphone, but ninety six percent of it
- 28:12Speaker 2: I don't bother using because I just text. The missis
- 28:16Speaker 2: how can they invest it? And friends, we are not
- 28:20Speaker 2: encouraging you in any way, shape or form, obviously to invest. Hey,
- 28:27Speaker 2: I've got a bit of a circus going on in
- 28:28Speaker 2: the background. I'll get me a chair out in a
- 28:31Speaker 2: minute and do some of this malarkey. Yeah, so how
- 28:36Speaker 2: how would you How would you answer those people?
- 28:38Speaker 1: I would just tell them to get in contact with
- 28:41Speaker 1: you privately and we can network that information out to them,
- 28:44Speaker 1: because what we can't do is broadcast it. Because because
- 28:48Speaker 1: the FCA doesn't want people buying BSV, but they didn't
- 28:51Speaker 1: want to specifically mention BSV. They are the only regulator
- 28:55Speaker 1: that has literally put a blanket ban on purchasing it
- 28:58Speaker 1: because of the infant of the work that I'm doing
- 29:01Speaker 1: educating people on it. It's a massive threat to them.
- 29:04Speaker 2: It's huge, right, But and again this is just my confusion.
- 29:08Speaker 2: So we want people to start investing in the BSV network,
- 29:13Speaker 2: orbit by buying the coins. Now, I'm not sorry, this
- 29:17Speaker 2: is the difficulty of being on these platforms. What I'm
- 29:20Speaker 2: saying on a personal level, because we're obviously not recommending
- 29:24Speaker 2: that people buy anything with their money without taking financial advice, folks.
- 29:30Speaker 2: But other side of the fence, let's just say we
- 29:33Speaker 2: did want people to like get on board with this.
- 29:36Speaker 2: How is that going to happen if the only way
- 29:39Speaker 2: they can do it is if they can get older
- 29:40Speaker 2: you that that's what are you saying? That they self
- 29:44Speaker 2: educate then and they go out and educate people how
- 29:47Speaker 2: to buy it.
- 29:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be networked because the banks don't
- 29:51Speaker 1: want this. But it's not financial advice if I'm telling
- 29:55Speaker 1: you how you use it and you're like, actually, that
- 29:58Speaker 1: sounds like a really good That's something that I might
- 30:00Speaker 1: want to use for my own digital transactions because I
- 30:02Speaker 1: want to make sure that my digital transactions are permanent
- 30:06Speaker 1: and immutable and I don't want my digital information to
- 30:09Speaker 1: be deleted or data scrape or anything like that. Yeah,
- 30:12Speaker 1: I actually do want to use the network. So therefore
- 30:14Speaker 1: I'm not buying bitcoin as an investment. I'm buying it
- 30:16Speaker 1: because I want to use the network.
- 30:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got that. What again, excuse my ignorance. Why
- 30:22Speaker 2: can't we just tell people now how to buy it?
- 30:25Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even sure I know, because what
- 30:28Speaker 2: I did is I downloaded a wallet and I was
- 30:31Speaker 2: gifted some so I you know, if you're going to
- 30:34Speaker 2: ask me, folks, I can't tell. I can't tell you.
- 30:37Speaker 2: So it's probably a non starter. And what why can't
- 30:41Speaker 2: you just what? What's the what's the problem with just
- 30:44Speaker 2: telling people right, this is how you buy it.
- 30:46Speaker 1: There's no there's no problem with that. But if I
- 30:48Speaker 1: broadcast this, the sea will shut, that net will shut
- 30:52Speaker 1: that route on ramping down. They will do all they
- 30:56Speaker 1: can to investigate it, even though in order for it
- 30:59Speaker 1: to be a criminal activity, it has to cause harm, injury,
- 31:02Speaker 1: a loss, and there's no harm, injury, a loss if
- 31:04Speaker 1: you're just simply buying something that you want to use.
- 31:06Speaker 1: But they will shut your bank account down, and it
- 31:09Speaker 1: doesn't matter how long you've been a customer for. So
- 31:12Speaker 1: there are certain things you have to do. I would
- 31:14Speaker 1: recommend only purchasing it if you are purchasing it using
- 31:18Speaker 1: US dollars via a neo bank like Bunk or Revelue
- 31:23Speaker 1: or Wise or remittely or something like that. You can
- 31:27Speaker 1: either purchase them from an exchange, you can either buy
- 31:31Speaker 1: and sell goods and services for it, or you can
- 31:34Speaker 1: purchase them from an individual that you might know. Yeah,
- 31:37Speaker 1: so I know all of these on ramps, but what
- 31:40Speaker 1: I can't do is broadcast them on a network like
- 31:43Speaker 1: this because the people who are going to be paying
- 31:46Speaker 1: attention to it are the cabal who don't want people
- 31:49Speaker 1: acting in common law and using a money that is
- 31:52Speaker 1: outside of their central banking system.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Perfect search everything we wanted to know, right, I'm what
- 31:59Speaker 2: I'm doing. Sorry if I'm I'm looking over here, Satoshi,
- 32:01Speaker 2: I'm not ignoring you. I'm getting stuff up. On the
- 32:03Speaker 2: other screen, there was the chat from our last video.
- 32:09Speaker 2: I'm going to go through it and just rapid fire
- 32:11Speaker 2: you questions. Don't have to go into it too much.
- 32:14Speaker 2: But so the first thing, and I even I think
- 32:18Speaker 2: I know the answer to this people, there are a
- 32:21Speaker 2: lot of people going, no, just buy XRP, just buy XRP,
- 32:24Speaker 2: And I think I know what you're going to say
- 32:26Speaker 2: to that.
- 32:27Speaker 1: Ah. Yes, So data can only be commoditized one way,
- 32:31Speaker 1: in the same way that there's only one truth, and
- 32:34Speaker 1: you can only be in one jurisdiction at one time. However,
- 32:38Speaker 1: with there being one truth, a lie is a derivative
- 32:41Speaker 1: on the truth. So there's only one truth, but you
- 32:43Speaker 1: can make up an infinite number of lies on based
- 32:47Speaker 1: on the back of that truth. And this is the
- 32:48Speaker 1: same with bitcoin. Data can only be commoditized one way,
- 32:52Speaker 1: but you can securitize it in an infinite number of ways.
- 32:55Speaker 1: So what they've done is they've just come up with
- 32:57Speaker 1: an infinite number of bullshit narratives to try and distract
- 33:00Speaker 1: people away from Bitcoin. And one of the political narratives
- 33:04Speaker 1: that worked was XLP and people are just like, all right, yeah,
- 33:07Speaker 1: we believe that XRP is back by the banks. It's bullshit, Yeah,
- 33:11Speaker 1: absolutely bullshit.
- 33:13Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, if you'd bought XRP at a certain
- 33:17Speaker 2: time in history, you'd have lost all your money now
- 33:20Speaker 2: because it's been going down for ages, hasn't it.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Well, all of these cryptocurrencies will go to zero once
- 33:28Speaker 1: people realize what you can do with bitcoin, because every
- 33:31Speaker 1: single cryptocurrency is based on the premise that Bitcoin can't
- 33:35Speaker 1: do something. Oh, bitcoin can't do that. We've got shitcoin
- 33:38Speaker 1: that can Bitcoin can't do this. We've got a bitcoin
- 33:41Speaker 1: that can you know it's all bullshit. Bitcoin can do
- 33:44Speaker 1: absolutely everything, but bitcoin is BSV, and this is what
- 33:48Speaker 1: people are going to realize very soon. So that entire
- 33:52Speaker 1: three trillion dollars shitcoin market, it's got nowhere to go
- 33:56Speaker 1: but flooding into the genuine bitcoin, which is BSV. So
- 33:59Speaker 1: we need truth is to be on this before that happens.
- 34:03Speaker 2: So next question, Satoshi, And this is going to feedback
- 34:06Speaker 2: to when we talk about friends. We haven't even got
- 34:10Speaker 2: to the good bit of this show yet because we're
- 34:12Speaker 2: going to be talking about the end of civilization as
- 34:16Speaker 2: we know it, which has been predicted in this book
- 34:19Speaker 2: it's called Blip by Christopher O. Klugston. And this is serious, folks.
- 34:26Speaker 2: I'm not saying that to worry you. What I mean
- 34:29Speaker 2: is you seriously got to get your spiritual battle on
- 34:32Speaker 2: and your spiritual head and understand all this is bollocks
- 34:36Speaker 2: anyway enough, it's just a game and there's nothing to
- 34:39Speaker 2: be afraid of. I say that because Satosha, we're not
- 34:43Speaker 2: one of these channels that just puts the fear of
- 34:45Speaker 2: God into people all the time. It tells them to
- 34:47Speaker 2: prep and you know, go and kill Buffalo and all
- 34:50Speaker 2: this sort of stuff. So this question here got me thinking,
- 34:57Speaker 2: I just get us back on the screen. There we
- 34:59Speaker 2: are this Paul Bates, Hello, Paul, thank you for this.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Who ultimately owns the energy infrastructure this digital shit circulates on?
- 35:09Speaker 2: So that's a question. I believe that's meant to be
- 35:12Speaker 2: a question. So who ultimately owns the energy infrastructure and
- 35:17Speaker 2: this digital shit circulates on? Nothing will change in this world?
- 35:21Speaker 2: Will corrupt human filth walk control the planet? Bit negative, mate.
- 35:28Speaker 1: I'd agree with that.
- 35:30Speaker 2: The only solution to the problem seems to be the
- 35:34Speaker 2: permanent removal of the problem. If you can come back
- 35:39Speaker 2: to the satoshi and then I'm if you don't mind,
- 35:42Speaker 2: I might add a little bit.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, So again, when you boil everything down to
- 35:46Speaker 1: the bare bones, it all starts and starts with the
- 35:49Speaker 1: financial system, because, as Henry Kissinger said, who controls the
- 35:53Speaker 1: food apply controls the people. Who controls the energy can
- 35:56Speaker 1: control whole continents. Who controls money controls the world. So
- 36:00Speaker 1: this is why they spent so long corrupting the financial system,
- 36:04Speaker 1: instigating World War One and World War II to steal
- 36:07Speaker 1: all the gold. Then the Bretton Woods Agreement to create
- 36:10Speaker 1: a world reserve currency. Then the Nixon Shock on the
- 36:13Speaker 1: fifteenth or of August nineteen seventy one, to give them
- 36:16Speaker 1: an unlimited amount of economic power without any economic consequences
- 36:20Speaker 1: because their currency was the world reserve currency, and now
- 36:22Speaker 1: it wasn't backed by anything, so therefore they could just
- 36:25Speaker 1: implement and fulfill the rest of their plans. But the energy,
- 36:29Speaker 1: the energy structure that the Bitcoin, the genuine Bitcoin network
- 36:33Speaker 1: runs on. All the mining operations are energy independent. They
- 36:36Speaker 1: either run geothermal, solar, hydroelectric, coal, but they're all energy independent,
- 36:43Speaker 1: so you can't just simply cut them off because they're
- 36:46Speaker 1: not on the grid. So all the Bitcoin network is
- 36:49Speaker 1: energy independent, All the miners are energy independent. All we
- 36:52Speaker 1: need are end is to produce little sort of magnetic
- 36:56Speaker 1: dynamos or get energy attachments to the ether so that
- 37:00Speaker 1: we ourselves are then off grid. But this is what
- 37:03Speaker 1: the cabal don't want. But the only way, the only
- 37:06Speaker 1: way we can finance that energy is with a financial
- 37:09Speaker 1: system that we that they don't control, so that we
- 37:12Speaker 1: can then create these items that create free energy.
- 37:16Speaker 2: Right, I'm getting that. I'm going to try to type this.
- 37:21Speaker 2: Just bear with me on this, Atashi. I'm going to
- 37:23Speaker 2: try and tie this in with another point that's been
- 37:26Speaker 2: made here, which is a little bit about the prepping.
- 37:30Speaker 2: This is rob Please people, if things crash, gold, silver
- 37:36Speaker 2: or metals are not going to help you, well not
- 37:39Speaker 2: unless you make a spirit a spear out of them. Food, water,
- 37:45Speaker 2: fuel and AMMO is what you need. So just coming
- 37:49Speaker 2: back to the book, Blip In Blip in the final thing.
- 37:52Speaker 2: It's quite serious this book, Satoshi. It says, don't go
- 37:56Speaker 2: thinking if you're out there with some you know, freehold
- 37:59Speaker 2: lamb and you grow in your pumpkins and you know
- 38:03Speaker 2: you live in like the Waltons, that you'll be you know,
- 38:08Speaker 2: when when the end comes, when when all the resources
- 38:12Speaker 2: it says by twenty twenty sixty will be It's not
- 38:17Speaker 2: the fact that they're depleted, it will be that the
- 38:20Speaker 2: effort to get them. Hence we're talking greenland, Venezuela, antar.
- 38:26Speaker 2: This is why these things are being mentioned, that the
- 38:30Speaker 2: effort to get them simply will be futile. You know,
- 38:34Speaker 2: like I said earlier, you don't want to go all
- 38:36Speaker 2: the way to Australia to get a bunch of bananas.
- 38:39Speaker 2: You expend more calories trying, you know, on the aeroplane.
- 38:44Speaker 2: So Blip is saying, don't think if you're you know you're,
- 38:48Speaker 2: you've got a few shotguns and some corn growing in
- 38:52Speaker 2: the yard, that you and your family they'll come for you.
- 38:55Speaker 2: You know, it will be all out right. Those people
- 38:58Speaker 2: have got food. Sorry, either you live or I live
- 39:01Speaker 2: right and friends. Sorry, I don't mean to be alarmist.
- 39:05Speaker 2: I'm just telling you what's going on in the book.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Does this affect me? No, not at all whatsoever. Don't care,
- 39:10Speaker 2: even though I'm a parent. But coming back to your point,
- 39:15Speaker 2: it would have to be some bloody clever fandango because
- 39:19Speaker 2: you still need the infrastructure for you know, BSV. And
- 39:25Speaker 2: when people go, oh yeah, but it can be solar
- 39:28Speaker 2: or it can be it's like, no, you still physically
- 39:31Speaker 2: need gold to make a circuit boards, you still need
- 39:34Speaker 2: lithium to make the batteries. You still and this blip
- 39:37Speaker 2: is saying forget that after twenty sixty that will not
- 39:42Speaker 2: be a viable sort of you know, yes, you're gonna
- 39:45Speaker 2: have scrap yards like mad Max where you can go
- 39:47Speaker 2: and lucky. You might be lucky and get some fifth
- 39:51Speaker 2: hand lithium or something right that hasn't been expended, or
- 39:55Speaker 2: or you can get the exhaust off of space Shuttle
- 39:58Speaker 2: and fix it to your mini men. Yeah, we get that,
- 40:02Speaker 2: But for longevity and pragmatism in the human experience going forward,
- 40:09Speaker 2: all of that is short lived until we can get
- 40:12Speaker 2: to some point where we can live within the ecosystem
- 40:15Speaker 2: and not consistently try and destroy it. I you know,
- 40:20Speaker 2: people say, oh, oils, replenish it. That doesn't matter if
- 40:24Speaker 2: you're polluting the planet with it or you know, or
- 40:27Speaker 2: I'm not talking about climate here, I'm just talking as
- 40:29Speaker 2: a physical pollutant that goes in your lungs and makes
- 40:33Speaker 2: you die younger. So come, what would you say to that?
- 40:38Speaker 2: To that, Satoshi?
- 40:39Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, So this is where people need to understand
- 40:41Speaker 1: the economic the economic effects and economic incentives. Really, So,
- 40:48Speaker 1: if we are using an inflationary financial system and the
- 40:53Speaker 1: medium of exchange that people are using is continuing to
- 40:56Speaker 1: go down and down and down in value, people need
- 40:59Speaker 1: to sell more and more and more of their products.
- 41:02Speaker 1: And the only way you can sell more of your
- 41:04Speaker 1: products is to have built in obsolescence. So, in other words,
- 41:07Speaker 1: to make sure that your products need replacing more and
- 41:11Speaker 1: more and more so that you can sell more and
- 41:13Speaker 1: more and more, because you need a constant income coming in,
- 41:16Speaker 1: because the value of the media that you changed is
- 41:19Speaker 1: going down and down and down. If you're using an
- 41:23Speaker 1: asset that is fixed in supply and therefore can't be inflated,
- 41:27Speaker 1: the only thing you can do is try and make
- 41:29Speaker 1: it more valuable. And in order to make it more valuable,
- 41:33Speaker 1: you have to make it more useful. And then people
- 41:35Speaker 1: are going to be more conscious about their decisions because
- 41:38Speaker 1: hold on a minute. If you actually, if I want
- 41:41Speaker 1: to buy this item off you, and I'm buying it
- 41:43Speaker 1: with an asset that's increasing in value, that item has
- 41:47Speaker 1: to be more valuable to me today than the future
- 41:51Speaker 1: value of this asset that I'm using to pay for
- 41:54Speaker 1: it that's in my pocket. So therefore people start acting
- 41:57Speaker 1: with common sense. They're just like, do actually need this? Like?
- 42:01Speaker 1: Do it? And so rather than having a very very
- 42:05Speaker 1: wasteful pollutant economy where people are just making things cheaper
- 42:09Speaker 1: and cheaper and cheaper so they have to be purchased
- 42:11Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again, people are
- 42:14Speaker 1: going to start making products that gives you value for money.
- 42:17Speaker 1: So they're just like, well, rather than a washing machine
- 42:19Speaker 1: that will only last like five years, it's very easy
- 42:22Speaker 1: to make a washing machine that will last a lifetime,
- 42:25Speaker 1: like one hundred years, and they're like, actually, so we've
- 42:28Speaker 1: now made this. We've now made this washing machine that
- 42:31Speaker 1: will last you one hundred years. But because you're paying
- 42:34Speaker 1: for it with an asset that's increasing in value, we'll
- 42:37Speaker 1: give it to you at the same price of this
- 42:39Speaker 1: shit washing machine that would previously only last for five years,
- 42:43Speaker 1: because we're economically incentivized to give you better value for
- 42:46Speaker 1: money because the producers in the economy will now no
- 42:50Speaker 1: longer be competing with one another on price, they will
- 42:54Speaker 1: be competing for the value of the asset in your pocket,
- 42:57Speaker 1: so we will be giving you value for money. So
- 43:00Speaker 1: therefore people don't people start creating things that are going
- 43:05Speaker 1: to last a long time because you don't need to
- 43:07Speaker 1: constantly resell them because the value that you sold it
- 43:11Speaker 1: for is actually starts to increase, so therefore you can
- 43:14Speaker 1: survive on that. So you don't necessarily need a business
- 43:17Speaker 1: that has to have a consumable product anymore, because what
- 43:21Speaker 1: you want is that if you've got a one time
- 43:23Speaker 1: idea that works really well, but wouldn't work in the
- 43:26Speaker 1: economy that we're currently operating in because you can't repeat
- 43:29Speaker 1: sell you don't need that. If you're using asset, you're
- 43:32Speaker 1: just like, let's just get first to market. Everybody's going
- 43:35Speaker 1: to use it. And then the big coin that we
- 43:37Speaker 1: get from them, because it's fixed and supply, is increasing
- 43:40Speaker 1: in value and we can live on that for a lifetime.
- 43:43Speaker 1: So therefore you stop having this constantly consuming economy, and
- 43:48Speaker 1: people start actually creating things that don't wreck the environment,
- 43:51Speaker 1: because if they do, start wrecting the environment and people
- 43:54Speaker 1: have to sort of buy them over again. Well, hold
- 43:56Speaker 1: on a minute. That was a ship product that I
- 43:58Speaker 1: bought from you last time, and it doesn't work anymore,
- 44:00Speaker 1: and now I've got to buy another one. And I'm
- 44:02Speaker 1: not going to spend my valuable asset with you anymore.
- 44:04Speaker 1: I'm going to give it to somebody who's going to
- 44:06Speaker 1: give me more value for money. So stop producing ship
- 44:09Speaker 1: goods and services and give me what I want.
- 44:12Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a very productive conversation, mate, isn't it is?
- 44:16Speaker 2: It's funny how like a thick ex marine and a
- 44:19Speaker 2: guy in a mask, like they're coming up with this stuff,
- 44:23Speaker 2: and yet Keir Starmer is just getting his car burned
- 44:26Speaker 2: down by rent boys.
- 44:28Speaker 1: He's in on this and this is where ultimately an
- 44:33Speaker 1: inflationary financial system leads onto war. Because if the financial
- 44:38Speaker 1: system is inflationary and goods and services and resources are
- 44:42Speaker 1: becoming more and more expensive, well, the way you make
- 44:45Speaker 1: them less expensive is to reduce the population so that
- 44:48Speaker 1: less people want them. So they were just like a
- 44:50Speaker 1: hold on a minute. You know, war is a consumable
- 44:54Speaker 1: weapons are They are consumable products with the highest profit margins.
- 44:59Speaker 1: So therefore, the best companies to be in an inflationary
- 45:03Speaker 1: economy is a defense program, you know, a weapons manufacturer,
- 45:07Speaker 1: and start wars constantly. Whereas if you're using a media
- 45:12Speaker 1: big change and you're spending this asset on creating war,
- 45:16Speaker 1: suddenly war becomes expensive because you're never going to get
- 45:19Speaker 1: the asset back because it's fixed in supply, and you've
- 45:21Speaker 1: got to pay all the military, and you've got to
- 45:23Speaker 1: pay all the soldiers, and you've got to pay for
- 45:24Speaker 1: all the weapons. So it's an inflationary financial system that
- 45:28Speaker 1: leads to war.
- 45:29Speaker 2: Very well, put mate, yes, I think we all get that.
- 45:32Speaker 2: Do you think a byproduct of when I mean, things
- 45:37Speaker 2: have got to get harder before they get better. I
- 45:39Speaker 2: tell you why, right, So my mate Disco Dave's quite
- 45:44Speaker 2: damaged as a youngster. He's grown up, he's quite needy.
- 45:48Speaker 2: He's always, you know, looking for attention. It's his ego
- 45:51Speaker 2: screaming out to be loved. Basically, now that AIS come out,
- 45:57Speaker 2: Disco has jumped on this. All he's doing sending me
- 46:00Speaker 2: these stupid fucking memes of him, like dressed as a
- 46:03Speaker 2: cowboy and you know, or or or he thinks he's
- 46:07Speaker 2: like al Capone where with a big, big and I'm like, Dave,
- 46:11Speaker 2: first off, that's like the behavior of a thirteen year old.
- 46:16Speaker 2: You actually think that that's funny? Yes, what the first
- 46:20Speaker 2: time it was like huh oh, Dave's Dave's got his
- 46:23Speaker 2: hands on AI. Right now, it's just I'm actually feeling
- 46:28Speaker 2: a bit sorry for you that you're that desperate a
- 46:30Speaker 2: needy you keep putting this on your on your social media, right.
- 46:35Speaker 2: But moreover, Disco, do you not stop to think you're
- 46:40Speaker 2: literally responsible for the invasion of Greenland and Venezuela now
- 46:45Speaker 2: because they need that oil and those precious minerals to
- 46:49Speaker 2: build the shit so that you can put crap on
- 46:52Speaker 2: your Facebook page. Right. What I'm getting out on a
- 46:55Speaker 2: more serious note is, as we go forward and we
- 46:59Speaker 2: it is things are going to get tough, because there's
- 47:01Speaker 2: no way we're living in I always say the land
- 47:04Speaker 2: of Milk and Honey. People will get confused with the
- 47:06Speaker 2: other podcasts they do, you know, but but we're on
- 47:09Speaker 2: the gravy train. It's just too good, you can't, you know.
- 47:14Speaker 1: Yeah, but these these data centers are very wasteful.
- 47:17Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well they let Disco Daves sit all day
- 47:20Speaker 2: in the office and you know, doing his painting, decorating
- 47:25Speaker 2: what you should.
- 47:26Speaker 1: They don't produce, They don't produce anything of real value. No,
- 47:30Speaker 1: of course, not so big. The Bitcoin network can do
- 47:33Speaker 1: absolutely everything that all these wasteful data centers can do.
- 47:38Speaker 1: Everything can be done on the bitcoin network because the
- 47:41Speaker 1: Bitcoin network is economically competitive, and the miners are in
- 47:45Speaker 1: competition with one another in order because because they're being
- 47:49Speaker 1: paid in bitcoin to create blocks and process transactions, and
- 47:54Speaker 1: that bitcoin is fixed and supply and going off in value.
- 47:58Speaker 1: The only way they can make themselves it more valuable
- 48:03Speaker 1: is by making the coin more valuable. And the way
- 48:06Speaker 1: you make the coin more valuable is to make it
- 48:08Speaker 1: more useful. And the way you make it useful is
- 48:10Speaker 1: to drive the cost down. So when everybody starts using
- 48:13Speaker 1: the Bitcoin network for everything. The costs of goods and
- 48:16Speaker 1: services goes down and down and down as the value
- 48:19Speaker 1: of the coin goes up and up and up, so
- 48:21Speaker 1: people stop consuming and start creating value.
- 48:26Speaker 2: Yes, what, Yes, this is kind of what I was
- 48:30Speaker 2: getting to do. You think a natural progression then will
- 48:33Speaker 2: be when we start to have it hard and when
- 48:36Speaker 2: people actually are shivering and starving and realizing this isn't
- 48:40Speaker 2: a fucking gain. You shouldn't be flying to Australia six
- 48:44Speaker 2: times a year to see your mum and dad, you know,
- 48:46Speaker 2: certainly not burning the fossil fuel to do it. I mean,
- 48:49Speaker 2: and you shouldn't be pissing around on the smartphone all
- 48:52Speaker 2: day burning up just giving some silly examples here. Do
- 48:57Speaker 2: you know?
- 48:58Speaker 1: Fossil fuel is a scam. There's no such thing as
- 49:01Speaker 1: fossil fuel. Fossil fuel. Fossil fuel was a narrative made
- 49:04Speaker 1: up by Rockefeller.
- 49:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard this oil.
- 49:08Speaker 1: Is naturally produced in the ground in the same way
- 49:11Speaker 1: that rubber rubber sap comes from a tree. It's not,
- 49:14Speaker 1: it's not it's not dinosaur fossils. It's absolutely bullshit mate.
- 49:18Speaker 2: Yeah, well I never thought it was dinosaur fossils. But
- 49:21Speaker 2: certainly when you see that the you know, the the
- 49:24Speaker 2: enormous amounts of forest on Earth, especially like places like
- 49:29Speaker 2: the Amazon, you think that's been growing for billions of years,
- 49:33Speaker 2: not not. I know they want you to think millions
- 49:35Speaker 2: and all this sort of stuff, but you know, and
- 49:38Speaker 2: all of that has grown, you know, has been condensed that.
- 49:44Speaker 2: I'm not at that stage yet in this narrative where
- 49:47Speaker 2: I could definitively say, oh, I just take your word
- 49:50Speaker 2: for it. You know what I mean, It's.
- 49:55Speaker 1: All all you've got to do is look at look
- 49:57Speaker 1: at a surface oil well. The oil just simply bubbles up.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Well, some of them do. Some of them run dry
- 50:05Speaker 2: though as well.
- 50:06Speaker 1: I mean that the oil wells don't ever run dry.
- 50:10Speaker 1: I would say that's a bullshit political narrative. Oil oil
- 50:13Speaker 1: is there's more oil on this Earth than there is seawater.
- 50:18Speaker 2: Right, okay, all right, well, let.
- 50:20Speaker 1: Let me just what I'm saying is, in terms of
- 50:23Speaker 1: extracting all these natural minerals from the Earth in order
- 50:26Speaker 1: to create consumable products, people will start looking in more
- 50:30Speaker 1: efficient ways. So, for example, the cabal want us to
- 50:33Speaker 1: use consumable pollutants. So yeah, they want us to constantly
- 50:41Speaker 1: produce packaging for their items. They want us to use
- 50:44Speaker 1: oil or lead to pollute the earth or whatever. If
- 50:47Speaker 1: people are running on a financial system that is fixed
- 50:50Speaker 1: the supply, and they're adding value to one another, people
- 50:53Speaker 1: then have an economic incentive to produce free energy devices
- 50:58Speaker 1: that you don't have to replace over an over. But
- 51:00Speaker 1: the cabal can't control us if we have free energy devices.
- 51:04Speaker 1: But we can make free energy devices because we will
- 51:06Speaker 1: have the economic power and the economic incentive to do
- 51:09Speaker 1: it for the first time ever. The only reason we've
- 51:12Speaker 1: not got free energy devices right now is because the
- 51:15Speaker 1: banking system won't let those sectors develop because they don't
- 51:18Speaker 1: want it, because they can't control us through it. This
- 51:21Speaker 1: is why we have to revert back to a new money.
- 51:24Speaker 1: And this is why they don't want me talking about bitcoin, because,
- 51:26Speaker 1: as I said before, all legal and political influence stem
- 51:30Speaker 1: from economic power. If that economic power is corrupt, what
- 51:34Speaker 1: they need is an inflationary financial system, and all that
- 51:38Speaker 1: all that thea currency system does is rapidly increase that
- 51:41Speaker 1: inflation because the currency they're producing isn't backed by anything
- 51:45Speaker 1: of value. So it's their it's their perfect economic weapon.
- 51:49Speaker 1: It's economic it's economic terrorism. So literally, if the world
- 51:52Speaker 1: start using an economic financial system that is fixed in
- 51:57Speaker 1: supply and increases in value, everybody is going to jump
- 52:00Speaker 1: on it because it benefits everyone. The only the only
- 52:04Speaker 1: individual that a true money doesn't benefit is the individual
- 52:08Speaker 1: who currently controls the central banks and can print themselves
- 52:11Speaker 1: an unlimited amount of economic power. That's it.
- 52:15Speaker 2: Yes, So to continue with the disco Dave narrative, then
- 52:19Speaker 2: what I was, what I'm trying to get to is
- 52:21Speaker 2: after we have this this crash from this high life
- 52:25Speaker 2: that we're living now, that clearly can't go on because
- 52:27Speaker 2: it's just just something so totally you know, everyone's living
- 52:31Speaker 2: in sodom and gomorah and and and spoil and it's
- 52:35Speaker 2: it's unsustainable.
- 52:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 52:38Speaker 2: What What what I'm getting at is when we come
- 52:42Speaker 2: out of this next dip, we're going to be in
- 52:45Speaker 2: a situation, are we not? Where when the disco Daves
- 52:48Speaker 2: of the world pick up their phone to start doing
- 52:50Speaker 2: absolute codshit, it's like, ohit put that ship down or
- 52:54Speaker 2: fuck off out our tribe and behavior will change and
- 52:57Speaker 2: people will be like, oh, yeah, that's not helpful, is it. No,
- 53:00Speaker 2: it's not. We're here to eat, sleep, reproduce and live
- 53:07Speaker 2: in the divine energy that that that that that is
- 53:12Speaker 2: the focus of our life, not to live in sodomon
- 53:14Speaker 2: gomor on porn and alcohol and and and you know,
- 53:18Speaker 2: all this, all this stuff that ultimately locks us in
- 53:22Speaker 2: our lower self.
- 53:23Speaker 1: And the only reason, the only, the only reason we're
- 53:26Speaker 1: addicted to that is because our lives are so so
- 53:29Speaker 1: shit is because it's becoming economically more and more difficult.
- 53:33Speaker 1: So we we we go to those things as a
- 53:36Speaker 1: kind of like drug hit, as a distraction to get
- 53:38Speaker 1: away from how miserable our lives are.
- 53:40Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're not active, we're not in the nature,
- 53:43Speaker 2: we're not breathing, we're not moving, we're not you know,
- 53:47Speaker 2: when you build yourself a shelter in the woods, you
- 53:49Speaker 2: feel so good at I've done it a couple of
- 53:52Speaker 2: times lately. I've been in the forest and just built
- 53:54Speaker 2: a couple of shelters and it's it's it's so good
- 53:59Speaker 2: and it feels good. But also another byproduct will be
- 54:04Speaker 2: that people start saying, well, look, you don't need that phone.
- 54:09Speaker 2: What you need is is technology that lasts, that doesn't
- 54:13Speaker 2: destroy the nature, that doesn't require to and it will
- 54:18Speaker 2: be the thing that people will really focus on building
- 54:22Speaker 2: good stuff. Cars that last, like you say, don't just last.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Cars that run on water, Cars that run on water
- 54:30Speaker 1: with the majority of the hard bits in them. Instead
- 54:33Speaker 1: of being made from steel, they're going to be made
- 54:35Speaker 1: from hemp. Hemp is just as strong as steel, and
- 54:38Speaker 1: it's not it's it's it's hemp can be grown, so
- 54:41Speaker 1: there's an unlimited supply of it. And it's also a biodegradable,
- 54:45Speaker 1: so it's not it's not toxic to the environment. All
- 54:48Speaker 1: this kind of stuff will start happening, and people won't
- 54:51Speaker 1: be addicted to as porn or all this bullshit as
- 54:53Speaker 1: much because their lives will actually be more fulfilling. There'll
- 54:57Speaker 1: be more chasing the spiritual side because I don't need
- 55:00Speaker 1: any of these short term drug is, you know, I
- 55:03Speaker 1: I indulge on on a weekend before I go back
- 55:06Speaker 1: to my bullshit nine to five Monday to Friday job.
- 55:10Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly the reason I keep talking about this dip,
- 55:15Speaker 2: and this is a relatively I mean, I've always been
- 55:18Speaker 2: aware that civilization goes in cycles. You know, hence the
- 55:22Speaker 2: Roman Empire crashed, hence the Egyptian Empire, or you know,
- 55:28Speaker 2: civilization I think the reason, you know, I'd love to
- 55:33Speaker 2: know more about the reason they chiseled messages into stone.
- 55:39Speaker 2: Is there some esoteric message there that we're not getting.
- 55:42Speaker 2: We're just decoding it as you know, like like when
- 55:45Speaker 2: you ride the Bible when you think it's a story.
- 55:48Speaker 2: Is there some esoteric message there that's warning us of
- 55:52Speaker 2: things two of things to come? And how long?
- 55:56Speaker 1: What?
- 55:57Speaker 2: What do you predict the future is going to be
- 56:00Speaker 2: in terms of a stable civilization versus all out chaos
- 56:06Speaker 2: and at what point will be I know it would
- 56:09Speaker 2: be great if everybody jumped on BSV today, but I
- 56:12Speaker 2: don't think people are ready to Sutoshi. I think that that.
- 56:18Speaker 1: I think actually because they haven't been economically incentivized to
- 56:21Speaker 1: jump on it, because they don't know what it can
- 56:23Speaker 1: be used for, because the cabal have made up this
- 56:25Speaker 1: bullsh in narrative the moment people the moment people see
- 56:28Speaker 1: what it can be used for. Oh right, so I
- 56:30Speaker 1: can I can actually communicate privately for the first time ever,
- 56:34Speaker 1: and I can do all the things that the Internet does.
- 56:36Speaker 1: And there's there's a there's a historical evidence trail of
- 56:39Speaker 1: it that only I know, which means that if somebody
- 56:41Speaker 1: does me wrong. I can actually expose that to the
- 56:44Speaker 1: public and they'll be exposed and they won't be able
- 56:47Speaker 1: to there won't be any controversy over it because the
- 56:50Speaker 1: truth is set in stone digitally. So therefore, what we
- 56:53Speaker 1: need is an economy running on a true money where
- 56:57Speaker 1: where people can be pulled on their bullshit, which means
- 56:59Speaker 1: they start acting with integrity because everything that they do
- 57:03Speaker 1: is recorded indefinitely, permanently on a public ledger. Yeah.
- 57:07Speaker 2: I just what I'm getting at is the human element.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Though.
- 57:11Speaker 2: It's like, for example, when people criticize drug addiction, which is,
- 57:16Speaker 2: you know, there's a fair fair point. But the thing
- 57:20Speaker 2: that from an esoteric point of view, they're not getting
- 57:23Speaker 2: is the massive learning curve you get from hitting a
- 57:27Speaker 2: rock bottom realizing what's important in life. And it's not
- 57:31Speaker 2: all that shit that you were taught at school or
- 57:33Speaker 2: that your parents taught you. You know a lot of
- 57:36Speaker 2: what your parents that there's some very simple, fundamental things
- 57:40Speaker 2: that you need and that is all not the flashy car,
- 57:44Speaker 2: not the you know this and you come out of it,
- 57:49Speaker 2: and you're a different person at that point when you
- 57:51Speaker 2: come out of it. If someone grabbed you and said, listen,
- 57:53Speaker 2: I've got this idea. It's called BSV. It's a different
- 57:57Speaker 2: you'd be like, I'm up for that, because I've learned empathy,
- 58:00Speaker 2: I've learned humanity, I've learned egalitarianism. Whereas I think people
- 58:10Speaker 2: at the moment and this is not I'm not saying it.
- 58:13Speaker 2: I'm just raising this point. I don't think people are
- 58:16Speaker 2: ready for this, Satoshi. I think we've got to go
- 58:19Speaker 2: through some absolute hardship before people will actually start not
- 58:26Speaker 2: they'll need systems for this out of necessity, for the
- 58:29Speaker 2: goodness of their soul, for their spiritual to walk in
- 58:34Speaker 2: the light. They will reject all the bullshit. But at
- 58:37Speaker 2: the moment, you know, we're on a platform that's famous
- 58:41Speaker 2: for people scrolling, aren't we, And scrolling is just the devils.
- 58:45Speaker 2: It's the devil's past time, and we're all guilty of it.
- 58:49Speaker 2: We're all we're all addicted to them dopamines hits.
- 58:53Speaker 1: So well, this comes that comes onto my next topic
- 58:56Speaker 1: in the next podcast that will do about mental health
- 58:59Speaker 1: because scroll scrolling, constant scrolling, and constant information absorbing. What
- 59:05Speaker 1: that does is it stimulates to hip the campus, which
- 59:08Speaker 1: pushes the quarters all out your brain and calm, calms
- 59:11Speaker 1: your immedular, which makes you feel placid. But the only
- 59:14Speaker 1: reason people are addicted to all this screen staring and
- 59:17Speaker 1: all this bullshit that's on social media at the moment
- 59:20Speaker 1: is because of the economic environment that we're currently in.
- 59:23Speaker 1: People are economically incentivized to be exhausted. Bosses like work harder,
- 59:27Speaker 1: work harder, work harder, are going to pay you less
- 59:30Speaker 1: and less and less, and you've got to work more
- 59:32Speaker 1: and more and more because it's because it's a it's
- 59:35Speaker 1: a consumer economy that we live in, because fear currency
- 59:39Speaker 1: is constantly inflated, so therefore, as the value goes down,
- 59:42Speaker 1: you need more and more and more of it, So
- 59:44Speaker 1: people want you to produce more and more and more
- 59:46Speaker 1: and work more and more and more. If we're using
- 59:49Speaker 1: an economic system with an asset that's increasing in value,
- 59:53Speaker 1: we need to work less and less and less. We
- 59:55Speaker 1: become less and less stressed, and we become more and
- 59:58Speaker 1: more enlightened. Literally, it's economic incentive that changes human behavior absolutely.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: Yes, do you how do you envisage the transition?
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: Then it's going to be real quick, mate, real quick,
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: because people will be economy people vote with their feet,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: and people will be people. People will be economically incentivized
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: to start using a system that benefits them, so there'll
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: be fear of missing out. There's price discovery, you know,
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: there's there's greed as well, because it's love old. On
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: a minute, I don't want to spend this bitcoin because
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: it's going because it's going up in value. So therefore
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: it's just like, well, actually, I'm not going to buy
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: any ship with this. I need to buy food obviously,
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: but I'm going to buy quality food. I don't want
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: to buy any crisps or chocolate and all this ship
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: I don't need because I'm spending a valuable asset on it. Therefore,
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: you know, if I'm going to spend a valuable asset
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: on food, I'm going to make sure there's quality food.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: I want to you know, I want a proper steak,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: you know, I want I want peas and carrots and potatoes,
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: and I want I want healthy stuff. I don't want
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: to fill my system with ship just to make me
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: comfortable before I have to go back to work on Monday.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. Literally, it's economic incentive that
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: changes everything, and when the economic system comes, it will explode.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: So imagine the mobile phone market for example, so the
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: mobile phone mark. Mobile phones were exceptionally useful, and that
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: market took off because they were so useful because you
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: could now contact somebody anywhere that you wanted to. So
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: what I would say is, let's take the mobile phone market,
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: for example, multiply the economic incentive by one hundred, then
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: put it on steroids, and that's where you're going to
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: get with a bitcoin network. It will change real quickly.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: But we need those people who are going to make
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: a difference with their economic power to be in on
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: this because we are the ones. You know, the political
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: system is corrupt, the legal system is corrupt, the health
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: system is corrupt, the insurance systems are corrupt. Everything is pollutant.
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: For example, there would be no point in me telling
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: any of my family members about bitcoin because all they
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: would do is spend it on a nice and holidays
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: and a nice house. They wouldn't do anything with it.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: So therefore it's useless to me because this lot are
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: going to kill everybody. So therefore I need to explain
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: it to people like you who understand the problem. Oh, actually,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: I'm going to do something useful with this. I'm going
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: to spend this economic power on fixing the political system,
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: on fixing the healthcare system, on fixing the schooling system,
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: on making sure we've got products that aren't ship the
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: last a lifetime they give us value for money.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting all this, and I'm wondering because obviously
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: there's the mechanics of this system, and then there's it's influence,
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: its emotional influence. When I look at society now, Satoshi,
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: We're we're a trauma based society. You know, everyone's been,
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: even the people that weren't physically abused as kids, which
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: is an awful, awful you know, physically mentally abused, neglected,
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: you know, all that kind of stuff. The seventies schooling
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: system from many of us was just abusive in it.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: But even those people, everyone's traumatized generally the horror films,
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: the beauty magazine culture, the bodybuilding or the men's health culture,
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: and the constant exposure to this extreme violence via the
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: TV set and this sort of I mean most people.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: I saw so many people wearing their underpants on their face,
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: not because they agreed with it or anything. They were
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: scared of their boss. And they get it. You know,
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: when you've got a more four hundred thousand pound mortgage
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: and you've got some little, you know, idiot in work
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: saying you've got to put your pants on your face.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: I can understand why a lot of people just went
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: along with it. But what I mean is that's that's
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: emblematic of trauma based mind control.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: Yeah. But the reason they can, the reason they can
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: produce and replicate this trauma based mind control is because
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: they're economically incentivized to do it in order to get
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: people to live in fears so they become more compliant.
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Yes, will will a byproduct of this system. I'm guessing
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: the way from what you're explaining, it will be a
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: much better world in the first place, where you're not
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: under constraints to be abusive and to be and to
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: be angry and to be drunk, and to put that
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: onto the next generation and to you know, the women's
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: magazine culture that's women sat around a table in Hollywood
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: or wherever, going right, How can we destroy our fellow
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: women and really do a good you know, we want
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: them absolutely hating themselves. We want the ideal scenario in
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: the beauty magazine culture is they can take a child,
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: a young girl indoctrinating with this bullshit and get them
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: to the stage where they won't go out of the
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: house before spending an hour in front of the mirror
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: trying to pretend that there's someone you know, making them
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: look like there's somebody else.
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: And let's just go back to what you just said
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: about like traumatizing traumatizing society with all these things, making
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: a feel as though you know they're not they're not
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: up to standards, making a feel as though they're not worthy.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: All these emotions, all these negative fear based emotions, will
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: disappear when people are in an economy where people start
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: acting in love for one another because they're producing things
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: of value. The only reason that they produce this fear
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: based society is because of this or is because of
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: this inflationary financial system where if you don't do what
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: we say, you're going to lose your job. And if
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: you lose your job or you won't be able to
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: pay your rent, you won't be able to put food
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: on the table, and you're going to be out on
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: the street and you're going to die, and you're going
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: to feel like shit. Literally, when we start, when we
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: start entering an economy where we start considering and acting
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: in value for one another, we start behaving in love
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: rather than fear, and it all comes down to economic insentive.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: This is what I'm trying explain to people, and this
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: is why the cabal don't want it, because if people
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: stop living in the fear based mindset that is currently
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: economically incentivized, they lose control of everyone because people stop
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: living in fear. All it all comes down to economics. Mate.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: Yes, now, I think you've explained it very well. It
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: certainly seems like a utopian idea, and I don't mean
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: that this was, you know, condescendingly. It's the proof will
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: be in the pudding obviously. And yes, sorry, folks, I'm
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: as much as I'm trying to host the show, I'm
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: trying to get my head to get my head around
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: this and make sure that I've asked Satoshia every single
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: question that's valid to this point, and that.
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: We can always come and do another show.
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we will do another show. We're going to
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: be talking about how the brain works and mental health,
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. That that's an absolute given you
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: envisage this changeover will be quite quick. Okay, how if
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: at the moment it's.
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: An economic incentive. Economic incentive. People will be economically incentivized
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: to join a system that benefits them where the value
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: in their pocket is going up rather than going down.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: And they can do that by actually buying this BSV. Yeah,
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: this has got the signatures. This is to use the expression,
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: this is the dog's bollocks.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Data can only be commoditized one way. You need
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: an economically competitive foundation, a chain of digital signatures that
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: can't be deleted using blockchain technology, unbounded scale, so limitations
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: and restrictions can't be manufactured and that will not be manipulated,
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: and a fixed token supply to economically incentivize the miners.
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: And then those things have to be locked forever. And
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: then that's the only way you can produce produce a
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: commoditized digital network.
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: What's to stop cabal pulling the plug on the electricity?
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: Because all the miners are energy independent off grid at present.
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: They're already off grid, are they all of them?
- 1:08:04Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all off grid. They have to be because
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: they can't. They can't be relying on anything they can
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: shut them down.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: And excuse my curiosity, but how do you know do
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: you know any of these guys?
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I do.
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, yes, but that would be a fascinating chat
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: with if you can put us in touch. I don't
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: know if that's a possibility.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: They remain in the private obviously, But what I'm saying is,
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: you know they run on geothermal Iceland greenland of servers
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: there so solar powered in the desert, hydroelectric from from
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: rivers and dams, you know, coal powered. I mean, there's that.
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: There are literally and some of them I already know
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: are extracting energy from the ether, but they don't want
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: you to know about that.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fascinating. This is where it's gone into
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: the realms of.
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: It's. It's it's. But the thing is, though, when I
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: obviously people need to understand bitcoin fundamentally to start with
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: before they start listening to me. And hold on a minute,
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: you've got miners that already running on etherical energy. Yeah,
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: but that's a conversation that you know, they've got to
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: get their head around bitcoin first.
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: Brilliant, brilliant on that note, So Toss, you just bear
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: with me while I just say a few things to
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: our audience. Friends, could you please make sure you're liked
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: and subscribed as you can see this is quite a
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: you know, this is a forward thinking conversation, is what
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: I'm going to say. I don't and you you'll get
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: a lot more of this if you like and subscribe. Secondly,
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: as many of you know, I'm going to be summiting
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: Mount Everest in May this year. I will be doing
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: this to shine a light for struggling veterans like I
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: was when I left the forces, chronically mentally unwell, homeless
- 1:09:49Speaker 2: on the streets of Hong Kong. I'm going to be
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: saying to the guys and girls out there struggling, there's
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: always light at the end of the tunnel, and this
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: is just a challenge being put in your way, this darkness.
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: When you get through it, you'll understand what life is
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: really all about, and like me, you'll hopefully wake up
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: every day in paradise. I also want to be drawing
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: making a link between childhood trauma and the alarming rate
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: of suicide we see in the veterans community. Because no
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: one's talking about this, I'm going to be shouting this
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: from the highest platform on the planet. If you can
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- 1:10:33Speaker 2: There's a load of it building up there. It's not cheap,
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: but if you could spare a five of folks, I'll
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: put a link for my go fund me below or
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- 1:10:46Speaker 2: suitable charity obviously, but I can tell you now we've
- 1:10:53Speaker 2: got a little bit of a way to go to
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- 1:11:01Speaker 2: two spaces left to fill on our Arctic Legends expedition.
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: So if you want to come up to the Arctic
- 1:11:07Speaker 2: with myself and my team of former Rule Marines commandos
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- 1:11:14Speaker 2: up there and learn to ski, you can be a
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: complete novice. It's the first week of March. It's less
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: than the price of a cheap skiing holiday, really or thereabouts.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: If you want to send me an email, you can
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: do so through Chris thrul dot com. That just leads
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: me to say, once again, make sure you'd like to subscribe, folks. Satoshi,
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: what an amazing conversation. I think we I think we
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: dotted all the i's and crossed all the t's on
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: that one, don't you agree?
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do another one on mental health, because
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: what you've just referred to as childhood trauma. All that
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: is is traumatic association. In the same way that Pavlov's
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: dog Celibates salivated whenever he heard the bell ringing. All
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: it is is controlling the quarters are in the brain
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: caused by association of childhood trauma. So you just have
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: to deal with the quarters are in order to deal
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: with the trauma. It's quite simple.
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. We had this expression in the Marines, stacks
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: of smoke and straight up the middle. It means when
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: you get bumped by the enemy, rather than panic and
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: run away and you know, just just turn and face it.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: And that's the thing with trauma, isn't it. The more
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: you run from it and the more you let it
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: control you, the more that your mind tricks you into
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: thinking that there's something that you're running from, and of
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: course with historical stuff, you're absolutely not.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: So you just need to understand it. And that's what
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: I'll explain next time.
- 1:12:44Speaker 2: How can people get hold of you? Rather than just
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: all the emailing.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: Me, they can get me on signal app at Satoshi
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: dot zero one.
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: Can we put that link below the video? Yeah, if
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: you want, Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll do that. Folks, So
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: don't get hold of me because, like I say, I
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: don't know how to buy BSV, but Satoshi will be
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: able to enlighten you. We'll put that signal link below
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: and yeah, mate, let's look forward to our next chat.
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: Thank you really, stay on the line. We can thank
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: you properly much love everyone speak soon. Warning legends, I'm Crystal.
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: I'm a former rum Rings command and hope on leaving
- 1:13:24Speaker 4: her forces, ended up chronically mentally unwell, self medicating, undiagnosed trauma,
- 1:13:30Speaker 4: and homeless.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: On the streets of Hong Kong. It was the toughest
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: battle I ever had to fight. But without the support of.
- 1:13:37Speaker 4: The medical community, without self help.
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: Groups, I learned the answers to rebuild my life.
- 1:13:42Speaker 4: Go on to complete a series of extreme charity challenges
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: to send a vital message out.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: There for other veterans who are struggling.
- 1:13:50Speaker 4: I'd run the length of the United Kingdom, run across
- 1:13:52Speaker 4: the Sahara Desert Road, across the Atlantic Ocean. Now I'm
- 1:13:56Speaker 4: taking on my biggest challenge yet, climbing Mount Everest. If
- 1:14:00Speaker 4: you can support me, friends, and continue to shine a
- 1:14:03Speaker 4: light for our struggling veterans and let them know that
- 1:14:06Speaker 4: is life after METSD.
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: I'll put a pleas below to spare a fiver. That's
- 1:14:11Speaker 2: absolutely fine. Let's give our veterans the respect that they deserve.
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: Much love, oh no matter.
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- 1:14:20Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the Bought the t Shirt Podcast.
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