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- 0:22Speaker 1: Maybe picture this Halloween morning and Martin, Ohio. The streets
- 0:27Speaker 1: are lined with pumpkins, kids are plotting their candy raids,
- 0:31Speaker 1: and one family's house holds a secret that no costume
- 0:35Speaker 1: can disguise. It's supposed to be a day of tricks
- 0:37Speaker 1: and treats, but what's brewing inside the List household is
- 0:41Speaker 1: far more terrifying than anything you'd find in a haunted house.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Blended family tensions, fights that escalate beyond words, and then,
- 0:50Speaker 1: on one fateful morning, a discovery that sends a small
- 0:54Speaker 1: town spiraling into horror. A missing brother, a locked room,
- 0:58Speaker 1: and an alibi that involves choir robes of all things,
- 1:02Speaker 1: and the deeper you dig, the darker it gets. Today
- 1:06Speaker 1: we're diving into the Lisk family murders, a story that
- 1:09Speaker 1: turns Halloween into a true horror show. Buckle up, because
- 1:14Speaker 1: the scariest part of this tale isn't the tricks, it's
- 1:17Speaker 1: the truth. Welcome to ten minute Murder. This was the
- 1:34Speaker 1: most disturbing murder scene I'd ever seen over the course
- 1:38Speaker 1: of my career. A state prosecutor would later describe the
- 1:41Speaker 1: case he had just been a part of. I can
- 1:44Speaker 1: still see it to this day. The case in question
- 1:48Speaker 1: was one that would shake the small, close knit community
- 1:51Speaker 1: of Martin, Ohio and would spread unprecedented fear through the
- 1:55Speaker 1: hearts and homes on a day that is supposed to
- 1:57Speaker 1: be filled with tricks and treats. It all started when
- 2:01Speaker 1: a couple named William and Susan Lisk married back in
- 2:04Speaker 1: two thousand one. This wasn't the first time down the
- 2:07Speaker 1: aisle for either of them, and both of them were
- 2:10Speaker 1: bringing their own children from previous marriages into this new
- 2:13Speaker 1: blended family. Susan had two sons, Devon and Deryck, and
- 2:18Speaker 1: William had one whose name was William Junior, although he
- 2:21Speaker 1: usually went by his nickname b Jay. Devon and Derrick
- 2:25Speaker 1: seemed to adapt well to this new life and having
- 2:28Speaker 1: William Senior in their lives, but unfortunately the same could
- 2:31Speaker 1: not be said for William's son b Jay. B J
- 2:35Speaker 1: didn't take too well to having a stepmother, and continuous
- 2:38Speaker 1: fights between him and Susan would often leave William Senior
- 2:41Speaker 1: having to pick between his new wife and his son.
- 2:45Speaker 1: All of this tension would come to a head on Sunday,
- 2:48Speaker 1: October thirty first, two thousand ten, when one member of
- 2:52Speaker 1: the Lisk family would make a gruesome and earth shattering discovery.
- 2:56Speaker 1: William's sister, Laurie Morse and her husband had asked twenty
- 3:00Speaker 1: three year old Derek to come around that morning to
- 3:02Speaker 1: do some work for them. Derek had agreed, but when
- 3:06Speaker 1: he didn't show up, Lourie called Derek. When Derek didn't answer,
- 3:10Speaker 1: she called Susan, and when Susan didn't answer, she called Devon.
- 3:14Speaker 1: When Devon answered, Lourie had finally managed to get through
- 3:17Speaker 1: to someone in the List household, but unfortunately, Devon didn't
- 3:22Speaker 1: have much information to give her. Devon had spent the
- 3:24Speaker 1: night before at his father's house and had only come
- 3:27Speaker 1: home on Sunday morning to grab his choir robes and
- 3:30Speaker 1: head straight back out to perform in a concert at
- 3:33Speaker 1: the local church. When he returned from that concert, he'd
- 3:36Speaker 1: headed straight into his room. The house was unusually quiet
- 3:39Speaker 1: for Sunday, but Devon didn't think much of it at
- 3:42Speaker 1: the time. He had actually welcomed the opportunity to sit
- 3:45Speaker 1: in his room and play video games undisturbed for a
- 3:48Speaker 1: few hours. But as the day drew on and no
- 3:51Speaker 1: one else seemed to come home or to even start
- 3:54Speaker 1: getting ready for the trick or treaters that were sure
- 3:57Speaker 1: to come around later that evening, Devin began to feel uneasy.
- 4:01Speaker 1: He went into Williams and Susan's room and found them
- 4:04Speaker 1: in bed, sleeping, the covers pulled up over their heads.
- 4:08Speaker 1: He put a hand out to Susan and gave her
- 4:10Speaker 1: a shake, and Susan didn't wake up. Concerned, Devon then
- 4:15Speaker 1: pulled the covers down to find something that no child
- 4:18Speaker 1: should ever have to see. Immediately, Devin started screaming, then
- 4:23Speaker 1: screaming and crying. He ran straight out of the house
- 4:26Speaker 1: and took off down the street. It took him a
- 4:28Speaker 1: good few minutes just to calm down enough to think
- 4:31Speaker 1: about what he should do next, and then, still completely panicked,
- 4:34Speaker 1: he called his aunt and told her everything he'd just seen,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Shocked and concerned about her nephew. His aunt then called
- 4:42Speaker 1: the police on Devon's behalf and told him to sit
- 4:45Speaker 1: tight and wait for first responders to arrive. Within minutes,
- 4:49Speaker 1: law enforcement had secured the scene, and they began the
- 4:52Speaker 1: long and gruesome task of piecing everything together. At some point,
- 4:56Speaker 1: either the night before or during that very morning, while
- 5:00Speaker 1: Evan was either with his father or at church, someone
- 5:03Speaker 1: had attacked the Lisk family. William had been shot in
- 5:06Speaker 1: the head and face multiple times, leaving blood spatter on
- 5:10Speaker 1: the walls and soaking the bed underneath his body. Susan's
- 5:14Speaker 1: fate was even worse. Susan had first been sexually assaulted
- 5:19Speaker 1: before she'd been shot in the head too. Both victims
- 5:22Speaker 1: would be found side by side in their bed. The
- 5:25Speaker 1: question then turned to Devin's older brother, Derek. He'd also
- 5:29Speaker 1: been in the home the night before, and it was
- 5:31Speaker 1: very unlikely that he wouldn't have heard the gunshots from
- 5:34Speaker 1: William and Susan's room. The investigators then approached Derek's room
- 5:39Speaker 1: and found the door locked. It had been locked from
- 5:42Speaker 1: the inside, suggesting that Derek had locked himself in. Maybe
- 5:46Speaker 1: he'd done so to hide from William and Susan's killer.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Maybe he was the one who'd actually attacked them and
- 5:53Speaker 1: now he was hiding from the police. Law enforcement broke
- 5:56Speaker 1: down the door and forced their way into Derek's room,
- 5:59Speaker 1: but instead of finding the person who'd killed William and Susan,
- 6:02Speaker 1: they found that Derek was actually another victim. He was
- 6:06Speaker 1: on his bed, curled up, almost like he'd been trying
- 6:09Speaker 1: to protect himself, and he'd been murdered too. This time,
- 6:13Speaker 1: the killer struck with a blunt object, leaving a sizeable
- 6:17Speaker 1: wound on Derek's head that ended up killing him in
- 6:20Speaker 1: one fell swoop. Devon had lost his mother, his older brother,
- 6:24Speaker 1: and his stepfather. Distraught and visibly shaken, Devon was then
- 6:29Speaker 1: brought to the station to give an interview. This talk
- 6:32Speaker 1: with the investigators had many motives behind it. The first
- 6:36Speaker 1: was that Devon had actually been the one to discover
- 6:38Speaker 1: the bodies, and therefore was the closest thing the investigators
- 6:42Speaker 1: had at the moment to a witness. Devon was also
- 6:45Speaker 1: a suspect. Yes, he'd been at his father's house the
- 6:48Speaker 1: night before, but the Lisk family home had given the
- 6:51Speaker 1: investigators more than one reason for them to believe that
- 6:55Speaker 1: the killings had been an inside job. The home itself
- 6:58Speaker 1: showed no signs of century, meaning that the killer more
- 7:02Speaker 1: than likely had their own way of getting into the
- 7:04Speaker 1: house or had already been inside it. There were no
- 7:07Speaker 1: signs of a struggle or that the home had been burglarized,
- 7:11Speaker 1: suggesting that the killer had known their way around and
- 7:14Speaker 1: had come there for the sole purpose of killing them.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Another discovery was quickly made that seemed to support that theory,
- 7:21Speaker 1: despite the fact that one of the murder weapons had
- 7:24Speaker 1: been a gun. No bullet casings were found at the scene.
- 7:28Speaker 1: Whoever killed William, Susan, and Derreck had cleaned up after themselves,
- 7:32Speaker 1: suggesting that they had at the very least put some
- 7:35Speaker 1: degree of thought or planning into the killings themselves. The
- 7:38Speaker 1: investigators first turned to Devon to try to figure out
- 7:41Speaker 1: if he was capable of killing his own family, but
- 7:44Speaker 1: Devon's version of events and his alibi remained consistent. He'd
- 7:48Speaker 1: been at his father's the night before and had only
- 7:50Speaker 1: come home Sunday morning to pick up his choir robes
- 7:52Speaker 1: and head straight back out to the concert. He had, however,
- 7:56Speaker 1: seen one more person at the house that morning, and
- 7:59Speaker 1: he was the unexpected HouseGuest. William's son, BJ, had spent
- 8:04Speaker 1: the night at the Lisks. In fact, he and William
- 8:07Speaker 1: had just come back from a week long hunting trip
- 8:09Speaker 1: together at the family cabin out in the woods when
- 8:13Speaker 1: he and William came home that Saturday night. William and
- 8:16Speaker 1: Susan invited BJ to stay after a get together they'd
- 8:19Speaker 1: hosted that night. After it turned into a bit of
- 8:21Speaker 1: a party and then led to some drinking. BJ himself
- 8:24Speaker 1: was not actually a member of the list household anymore.
- 8:27Speaker 1: He had been at first, but the relationship between him
- 8:30Speaker 1: and Susan had deteriorated to the point where BJ had
- 8:33Speaker 1: been asked to leave the house. The paper trail to
- 8:36Speaker 1: prove that started back in two thousand and four, when
- 8:38Speaker 1: a police report indicated that BJ had hit his stepmother
- 8:42Speaker 1: with a coffee mug. Two months after that, he'd punched
- 8:45Speaker 1: her in the chest. A short while after that, he'd
- 8:48Speaker 1: stolen the car keys and attacked her with them. After
- 8:51Speaker 1: one of these violent outbursts, the local police came in
- 8:54Speaker 1: and then physically removed BJ from the house. He was
- 8:58Speaker 1: then sent to a mental facility, where he stayed until
- 9:00Speaker 1: William's senior came in and agreed to be BJ's guardian.
- 9:04Speaker 1: After that, BJ wasn't allowed back into the house, but
- 9:07Speaker 1: William was doing his best to rebuild his relationship with
- 9:10Speaker 1: his son and to keep their blended family together. That
- 9:14Speaker 1: was actually why he and BJ had gone out on
- 9:17Speaker 1: that hunting trip, and that was another reason why William
- 9:20Speaker 1: offered for BJ to sleep on the sofa after they'd
- 9:23Speaker 1: all enjoyed themselves at the party. Afterward, the following morning,
- 9:27Speaker 1: while Devon was at the house picking up his robe,
- 9:30Speaker 1: he saw BJ out on the front of the house
- 9:32Speaker 1: putting something into his white truck. Devon explained that he
- 9:36Speaker 1: was on his way to church and told BJ that
- 9:38Speaker 1: he would be back soon, but when he came back afterward,
- 9:41Speaker 1: BJ had already left. This piece of evidence and the
- 9:44Speaker 1: long and difficult relationship that BJ had between his father
- 9:48Speaker 1: and his stepmother led to a countrywide man hunt. While
- 9:52Speaker 1: the investigators back at the scene were busy finding the
- 9:55Speaker 1: claw hammer that had been used to kill Derek, law
- 9:58Speaker 1: enforcement were at the Lisk family can arresting the man
- 10:01Speaker 1: who had used it. BJ didn't put up a fight,
- 10:05Speaker 1: and around him was only one more piece of physical
- 10:08Speaker 1: evidence to prove that he had actually been the one
- 10:11Speaker 1: to kill his father, stepmother, and stepbrother. All of their
- 10:14Speaker 1: DNA was found on BJ and in his truck, and
- 10:17Speaker 1: so was the twenty two caliber rifle that had been
- 10:20Speaker 1: used to kill both Susan and William. BJ agreed to
- 10:24Speaker 1: a plead deal which spared him the death penalty. He
- 10:27Speaker 1: agreed to plead guilty to the three murders in exchange
- 10:30Speaker 1: for a life sentence without the possibility of parole, his
- 10:33Speaker 1: life would be spared, but he would actually only serve
- 10:36Speaker 1: a year of his sentence. In twenty eleven, bj took
- 10:40Speaker 1: his own life and was found dead in his prison cell.
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