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LIVE FROM SUPER BOWL LX MEDIA ROW: Benjamin Watson Recalls Eagles-Pats In Super Bowl XXXIX · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Benjamin Watson, former Patriot, amongst some others, but remember him
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  Speaker 1: from the Eagles first Super Bowl and Benjamin, first off,
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  Speaker 1: you look like you could still play I.
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  Speaker 2: Look this way, but if you saw my MRIs and
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  Speaker 2: my and my X rays and it.
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  Speaker 3: Will be a no go.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, right, I did not know that it was Media Row,
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  Speaker 2: now I was. I was still saying Radio Row.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're a radio station, so we are more still
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  Speaker 1: Radio Row part of it, but they have actually changed
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  Speaker 1: the official name to Media Row.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the more you know, you learn something new every
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  Speaker 2: every single day, I'll be I'll be sure to tag
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  Speaker 2: you know, media Row not Radio Row on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Catch one of the one of these years. I think
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  Speaker 1: most people still say radio Row.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's gonna it's gonna take you know, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna take a generation of us of us old
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  Speaker 2: heads to uh retire.
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  Speaker 3: That's been gonna happen and then yeah, and then and.
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  Speaker 2: Then we're gonna come back here and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: all like all sci fi and technology.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the AI will put have you guys been driving
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  Speaker 1: around the town with the cars that don't have anybody
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  Speaker 1: drive right by me?
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  Speaker 5: Where I couldn't believe it because you know, we're from Philly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we're just to get them, but they haven't been approved.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I couldn't.
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  Speaker 5: Well, there's no way, Mike, that they let them drive downtown.
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  Speaker 5: How could they possibly?
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  Speaker 4: Last night they were everywhere in downtown.
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  Speaker 2: So I live outside Atlanta, whenever i'm downtown, they're all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. I mean, honestly, you know, I was
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  Speaker 2: driving one time and I was pulling out from the
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  Speaker 2: Whole Foods in downtown Atlanta and one of them was
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  Speaker 2: like waiting for me to turn left.
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  Speaker 1: Like let me, let me go, let me go first,
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  Speaker 1: and the camera like stick an arm out and wave
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  Speaker 1: you in.
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  Speaker 4: No, I mean, just the weymoth get road rage. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But last night we were in awful traffic and the
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  Speaker 1: Waymo was next to us, and it's like, you know, blinker,
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  Speaker 1: and it's wild to see it kind of all materialized.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean you think about it, and you think
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  Speaker 2: about you know, GPS and the technology there, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's scary, but also it's I mean, that's I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the reason why we're able to sit here right now
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  Speaker 2: is because there was a technological advance it's point, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to be able to have a sitting here in Sarta
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  Speaker 2: Claire talking to people way back and where in New
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  Speaker 2: Jersey where you guys are.
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  Speaker 3: So it's uh, it's scary, but isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I was talking to a woman who was actually riding
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  Speaker 2: in a way moment and she was like, that was actually.
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  Speaker 3: One of the best rides I've ever had.
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  Speaker 4: Does it work though?
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  Speaker 1: Do you just open the door get in and like, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I have no I have you see it? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've seen it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like she was like, yeah, I rode over here
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  Speaker 2: in one of those things and I never felt more safe.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy. And the driver wasn't head.
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  Speaker 4: Like I would have to take a xanax to be
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  Speaker 4: in one of those things.
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  Speaker 3: I guess so well.
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  Speaker 1: Benjamin watches with us everybody, And one of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: we were excited to talk to you is because today,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, is the anniversary of the eagles first
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  Speaker 1: ever Super Bowl win. You were in a game where
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  Speaker 1: you defeated the Philadelphia Eagles. It was a very interesting
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  Speaker 1: super Bowl. You had the whole mcnabbed. It was the
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  Speaker 1: t irvis, the t oo.
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  Speaker 3: So as the opposing.
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  Speaker 1: Team that year, what was like the whole too, gonna play,
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  Speaker 1: not gonna play. How did you guys in New England
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  Speaker 1: view his disappearance from the playoffs and then potential return
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  Speaker 1: to that game.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, you've listened to Coach Belichick enough times
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  Speaker 2: to know that it was not a big deal and
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna play whoever's out there, and whoever's out there
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  Speaker 2: on the field, that's who we're gonna deal with.
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  Speaker 3: And we're worried about what we have to do.
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  Speaker 2: And I've got enough to worry about here going over
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  Speaker 2: first down, second down, third down, and we're all trying
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  Speaker 2: to just do our job.
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  Speaker 3: Did that sound Did I sound like? Did I give
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  Speaker 3: you the doesn't answer? Clearly not.
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  Speaker 2: But that's that's what it was for me. It was
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  Speaker 2: kind of a bittersweet time. I couldn't play in the game.
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  Speaker 3: I tore my a cl that year, so I was out.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I did.
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  Speaker 2: So it was difficult for me to see the team
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  Speaker 2: play and not be able to be on the field
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  Speaker 2: and be part of it. But that entire year, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's what it was. It was stacking win after win
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  Speaker 2: after win. It was about preparation. It was about not
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  Speaker 2: getting too high or too low, and I was able
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  Speaker 2: to learn as a rookie what it meant to be
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  Speaker 2: successful in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: And really that comes down.
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  Speaker 2: To being prepared, being able to flush the bad, get
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  Speaker 2: better off of the good, take care of your body,
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  Speaker 2: and really come to work every single you know, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 2: Saturday with kind of a fresh energy for a new week.
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  Speaker 6: Could you feel that the tide was turning there in
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  Speaker 6: New England, that that was obviously trending towards all the
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  Speaker 6: greatness that they went on to have.
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  Speaker 2: Well, really, that situation was one thing was Belichick did
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  Speaker 2: talk a lot about was the fact that teams that
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  Speaker 2: had won the Super Bowl previously at least made to
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  Speaker 2: the playoffs usually didn't perform well the next year. And
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  Speaker 2: so if you remember, I was still in college, but
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  Speaker 2: they had won the Super Bowl the year before, and
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  Speaker 2: so when I get drafted, I mean that's when they did,
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  Speaker 2: you know, back to back Super Bowls, And so there
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  Speaker 2: was a big you know, meetings that the mantra was,
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  Speaker 2: let's not end up following the statistics of not being
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  Speaker 2: successful back to back years.
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  Speaker 3: And what are the reasons is why teams aren't successful?
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  Speaker 2: Well, everybody gets a commercial, everybody gets a new contract,
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  Speaker 2: people start feeling like, you know, they've arrived. It becomes
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  Speaker 2: more I than we. And that was something that was
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  Speaker 2: preached over and over over again. And then when you
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  Speaker 2: had guys like you know, the current head coach of
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  Speaker 2: the New England Patriots, like Rabel, those types of veteran
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  Speaker 2: players didn't allow that to happen to that team. Rodney Harrison,
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  Speaker 2: you know Rabel, you know Bruski. Those guys didn't allow
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  Speaker 2: that to happen.
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  Speaker 4: The commercials.
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  Speaker 6: We've seen a bunch of Saquon aj Brown all off
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  Speaker 6: season and then throughout the season.
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  Speaker 4: How much was there something to that? Do you think?
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  Speaker 6: And getting consumed with all of that that keeps you
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  Speaker 6: from maybe a day in the weight room here and
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  Speaker 6: doing those things that you need to do as a player.
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  Speaker 3: It's super important. And you know, this is a different eerror.
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  Speaker 2: Players are used to having publicity in a way that
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  Speaker 2: we weren't used to it. Every single player has their
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  Speaker 2: own TV. It's called a cell phone, you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: everybody has their own platform now. So it's different than
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  Speaker 2: it was that they're used to having these things, even
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  Speaker 2: in college. But there is something to being able to
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  Speaker 2: handle success, and handling success many times it's more difficult
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  Speaker 2: than rebounding from failure.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Belichick and obviously what's going on now he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get into the Hall of Fame. But what is
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  Speaker 1: it like the dynamic between such a high profile coach
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  Speaker 1: and quarterback when you're on that team.
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  Speaker 3: You know, every dynamic is different.
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  Speaker 2: I think for us, having a Tom Brady meant you
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  Speaker 2: never felt like you were going to lose a game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't ever remember feeling like I was going to
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  Speaker 2: lose a game.
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  Speaker 3: In New England.
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  Speaker 2: We lost plenty of games, you know, not a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but we lost, but it was like you always.
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  Speaker 3: Felt like you had a chance.
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  Speaker 2: And part of that was because in practice you felt
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  Speaker 2: like you had to win every single drill. Like to
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  Speaker 2: Tom and Rabel used to go ad it. You've heard
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  Speaker 2: this before. They used to go add it.
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  Speaker 3: In practice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you got the Michigan Ohio state thing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you got the offense defense thing. They're cussing
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  Speaker 2: each other out, you know in seven on seven. You
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  Speaker 2: know when one of them scores, when one of them
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  Speaker 2: makes it stop like they used to go add it.
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  Speaker 3: But that was how competitive our practices were.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you got to a game, you felt
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  Speaker 2: like I've been there before. Everybody's calm, We're just gonna
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  Speaker 2: go and do what we do. We're just gonna go
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  Speaker 2: literally like do your job, and so that was an
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  Speaker 2: awesome thing. The relationship is different, though in every situation.
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  Speaker 2: I remember going to New Orleans and being with Drew
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  Speaker 2: Brees and Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 3: Their relationship on the.
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  Speaker 2: Surface is closer than Tom and Do maybe because Shawn's
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  Speaker 2: the offensive quarterback and offensive coach and Drew as a quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: But they used to converse more during practice than I
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  Speaker 2: ever saw Tom and Bill. But part of that I
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  Speaker 2: think it is because of the offense. But every situation
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  Speaker 2: is different, every relationship is different. But they have to
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  Speaker 2: be able to communicate with each other. They got to
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  Speaker 2: have a trust trust factor.
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  Speaker 4: With each other.
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  Speaker 5: Benjamin, in your Best a Bridge version, could you tell
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  Speaker 5: us what made Brady so great?
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  Speaker 4: But he's got to think it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I got well because there are a lot
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  Speaker 2: of things that made him great. I mean, clearly his
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  Speaker 2: six foot five, he's strong. Everybody sees his uh, his uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, his his combine video. But I mean the
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  Speaker 2: dude has the stuff to be the guy like he's tall,
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  Speaker 2: got big hands, all the measurable, he's got.
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  Speaker 3: That sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: He's really smart. But what made him great is he's
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  Speaker 2: never satisfied. It's never enough.
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  Speaker 1: So you were a first round pick and he is
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  Speaker 1: a seventh round pick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yet they and they missed that. Well, yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: can look at it two ways.
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  Speaker 2: You could say, man, we got him in the sixth
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  Speaker 2: round and it was so great. But also it's like,
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  Speaker 2: if you knew he was gonna be so great, why
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  Speaker 2: would you let him fall to the sixth rounds? So
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  Speaker 2: you see, you can't take credit for everything. But going
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  Speaker 2: back to Tom, like every single drill, whether it was the
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  Speaker 2: off season program when he's competing with Matt Castle to
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  Speaker 2: see who can like run the most or lift the
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  Speaker 2: most weights was a competition.
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  Speaker 4: That's Michael Jordan man, same thing. I know, we gotta
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  Speaker 4: let you go.
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  Speaker 6: But when you said he wasn't satisfied, would you see
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  Speaker 6: that even after a Super Bowl win, like it didn't
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  Speaker 6: last long before that didn't satisfy him.
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  Speaker 3: There was an interview with Tom. I didn't contact the interview.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what outlet it was on, but he
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  Speaker 2: was talking about you know the fact that he had
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  Speaker 2: won six well, I guess it was five Super Bowls
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  Speaker 2: at that time or four, and just it's always the
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  Speaker 2: next week. And that is a tough way to live
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  Speaker 2: at time, because now you don't fully enjoy things. There's
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  Speaker 2: a balance there, but there's also this inner drive that
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  Speaker 2: he had that premeated the entire locker room. And my
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  Speaker 2: last year in New England, I came back after being
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  Speaker 2: gone for nine years and my locker was next to Tom's. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: they put the two old guys together. And that one
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  Speaker 2: year is when I really got to know him the
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  Speaker 2: most because we were both older and more accomplished, and
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  Speaker 2: had kids and were married, and so we could talk
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  Speaker 2: about all these things outside of the game, and I
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  Speaker 2: got to know him more as a person.
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  Speaker 3: He is a he's such a genuine guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's such a genuine, honest, like loving, even like loving person.
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  Speaker 2: And I so thoroughly enjoyed that year because I got
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  Speaker 2: to see him in the light that I had before.
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  Speaker 4: Benjamin.
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  Speaker 1: Watching everybody tell everybody out there about the podcast and how.
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  Speaker 3: They can find your stuff, I appreciate it.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: I have a podcast called The Just Life, The Just
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  Speaker 2: Life and to Live Justly is what the podcast is about.
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  Speaker 2: of justice. So whether that be human trafficking, whether it
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  Speaker 2: the purpose and the hope of encouraging anybody listening that
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  Speaker 2: Right now, there are fifty million people in the world
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  Speaker 1: IJM dot org. Everybody awesome stuff. By the way, twenty
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  Speaker 1: years ago you ran champ Valley down. How often do
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  Speaker 1: you get asked about that?
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  Speaker 4: Do a lot?
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  Speaker 3: A lot? And what's twenty years ago? It's crazy is
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  Speaker 3: twenty years Where did the time go? How did you
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  Speaker 3: catch them.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to be cussed out by the bill
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  Speaker 2: the next day for not chasing them. And so at
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  Speaker 2: some point it turns, it turns.
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  Speaker 4: The point it out of the exactly, exactly exactly, he
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  Speaker 4: did his job.
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  Speaker 1: And he sat down with us. That was his job
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  Speaker 1: for the last couple of minutes. Benjamin Watson, everybody, IJM
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  Speaker 1: dot org. Check that out, listen to the podcast. It's
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  Speaker 1: for a great cause and it's great stuff to learn
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  Speaker 1: and hear from. Benjamin Watson. Thank you so much, man,
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Benjamin Watson, everybody, former Patriot among other
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Champion, played with Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: And Baltimore and so many other stops in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: He was kind enough to join us.