Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / How to Give Big on a Small Budget
Transcript
- 0:04Speaker 1: Hello, this stopped justin Coilson. I'm here with Kylie, my
- 0:06Speaker 1: wife from Mum to our six kids. Kylie, have you
- 0:07Speaker 1: noticed we've been talking about Christmas for the last week
- 0:09Speaker 1: or so on the podcast. Sometimes we're really excited about it,
- 0:12Speaker 1: there's so much to look forward to, and other times
- 0:14Speaker 1: we're like.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Oh, so hard. I don't want to do Christmas this year.
- 0:18Speaker 3: I have felt it for the last few years, but
- 0:21Speaker 3: I'm hearing more and more people say to me, I
- 0:24Speaker 3: just don't want to do Christmas this year. There's a
- 0:27Speaker 3: shift in how we want to do Christmas.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nice. I like the way you've said that.
- 0:31Speaker 1: So today we're talking about gifts, budgets, how much cash
- 0:34Speaker 1: to spend, how to get it all right. We're not
- 0:36Speaker 1: financial advisors, by the way, so you can take it
- 0:38Speaker 1: or leave it, And we don't want to do as
- 0:39Speaker 1: sort of a boring his hell to budget kind of conversation.
- 0:42Speaker 1: But we've asked our listeners, we've brainstormed together, we've talked
- 0:46Speaker 1: to families and come up with six things that can
- 0:48Speaker 1: help you to do Christmas on a budget.
- 0:51Speaker 3: One of the things that was a game changer for us,
- 0:54Speaker 3: and you may have heard us talk about this before
- 0:56Speaker 3: is we go by the four gifts of Christmas.
- 1:00Speaker 2: I always get around the wrong order you do it,
- 1:02Speaker 2: and I'll well.
- 1:02Speaker 3: You buy them something they want, something they need, something
- 1:06Speaker 3: to wear, and something to read. That literally, with six kids,
- 1:11Speaker 3: having a little box that I can put gifts into
- 1:15Speaker 3: in those four areas revolutionize Christmas for me.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:19Speaker 1: The only trouble is sometimes when you're on a real
- 1:21Speaker 1: tide budget buying something they want, something they need, something
- 1:24Speaker 1: to wear, and something to read.
- 1:26Speaker 2: That can be expensive. That can really add up fast.
- 1:28Speaker 3: But yes it can. But depending on your budget, it
- 1:30Speaker 3: might be new undies and socks. You only get new
- 1:33Speaker 3: undies and socks at Christmas time, that's what you wear.
- 1:35Speaker 4: Well.
- 1:36Speaker 1: In fact, we were listening to Jess a little bit
- 1:38Speaker 1: earlier when we're having chat with her, and she said
- 1:40Speaker 1: that's exactly what she does with her Santa sax.
- 1:42Speaker 4: But we do try to fill the Santa Sacks with
- 1:44Speaker 4: things the kids need anyway for the year ahead, So
- 1:47Speaker 4: a new lunch box and new shoes, undies, chocolates, things
- 1:51Speaker 4: we probably would have bought them anyway, and then to
- 1:54Speaker 4: save them up and put them into the Santa sack.
- 1:56Speaker 3: So in Jess's situation. It's a new lunch box and
- 1:59Speaker 3: a drink bot.
- 2:00Speaker 2: We do the same thing the Sata Sax. There's some
- 2:02Speaker 2: fun stuff in there.
- 2:03Speaker 1: There's the ginger beer and the mango that we've already
- 2:05Speaker 1: talked about, but we actually go by the same thing,
- 2:07Speaker 1: and it really it bulks out the Christmas gift giving.
- 2:10Speaker 1: The kids are like, yeah, cool, I needed socks and
- 2:12Speaker 1: nundies anyway, or a lunch box. But it helps you
- 2:15Speaker 1: to say, all right, that's taken care of and now
- 2:17Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about it in January or
- 2:19Speaker 1: February when they go back to school.
- 2:20Speaker 2: We've already bought it for Christmas.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Well, the kids get all their tailet trees and there
- 2:24Speaker 3: yes in their Sanda Sax that I would buy them normally,
- 2:28Speaker 3: but I just store it up so it becomes a gift.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, perfect. So that's one idea, one of our
- 2:34Speaker 1: six ideas. The next idea I reckon it's just important
- 2:38Speaker 1: to stick to a budget. So work out how much
- 2:40Speaker 1: money you've got and don't say, well the credit card
- 2:42Speaker 1: max is out at five grand or ten grand or
- 2:44Speaker 1: whatever it is, because that's a bad way to start
- 2:47Speaker 1: the new year.
- 2:47Speaker 2: New Year's Resolution then has to be.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Pay off the credit card, and that's not fun work
- 2:52Speaker 1: out how much cash you've got.
- 2:53Speaker 3: I think it works in any situation, whether it be
- 2:56Speaker 3: the groceries or your shopping list for Christmas or whatever.
- 3:00Speaker 3: If you've got a list and you have a budget,
- 3:03Speaker 3: then you're more likely to stick to that, Whereas when
- 3:06Speaker 3: I would take you shopping, even though I knew what
- 3:08Speaker 3: the budget was and I had my shopping list, you'd
- 3:11Speaker 3: be like, Oh, we just need these chocolate chip cookies,
- 3:13Speaker 3: and we just need these as creams, and we just
- 3:15Speaker 3: need this, and all of a sudden, my budget would
- 3:18Speaker 3: blow out by fifty or seventy dollars.
- 3:20Speaker 2: I'm really bad at this, just because you.
- 3:22Speaker 3: Came along and you didn't know how to stick to
- 3:24Speaker 3: what I was trying to achieve.
- 3:26Speaker 1: I have an inhibition problem. I have a self regulation problem,
- 3:29Speaker 1: Like this is that a bag you out?
- 3:30Speaker 3: But it's just an acknowledgement. When we don't have a
- 3:33Speaker 3: budget or we don't have a list that we stick to.
- 3:35Speaker 3: What happens is we get caught up in the moment.
- 3:37Speaker 1: And that happens anyway, So you know, not just with
- 3:39Speaker 1: the groceries, but every year we go through.
- 3:41Speaker 2: Something they want something, they need, something to wear and
- 3:43Speaker 2: something to read.
- 3:44Speaker 1: You do that careful, selective gift buying, keeping it to
- 3:47Speaker 1: our budget, and then I look at the gifts. I'm like, oh,
- 3:50Speaker 1: you've done all this great gift buying, Colylie, and I
- 3:52Speaker 1: haven't done anything. And then I go down to the
- 3:54Speaker 1: shops pull out the credit ye and then.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I go, hang on a sec. Now, Abby and our
- 4:00Speaker 3: I have got like major gifts, and you've left out
- 4:02Speaker 3: these two kids over here.
- 4:04Speaker 1: And I reckon, I've done it half a dozen times
- 4:05Speaker 1: over the last decade, and it always costs us and
- 4:08Speaker 1: we don't need it because you've done such thoughtful gift giving,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and I go and blow it all the time.
- 4:12Speaker 2: My impulsiveness is you know that the other.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Day we talked about how being on the same page
- 4:18Speaker 3: is really helpful and you know, sharing that cognitive load.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Maybe if you and I sat down and talked, I know,
- 4:24Speaker 1: I know, I know I've got to do.
- 4:25Speaker 3: Better, then you could go and buy some gifts because
- 4:28Speaker 3: off my list, I love to buy things and do
- 4:31Speaker 3: the giving myself, and I feel like, because you do
- 4:34Speaker 3: all of this on your own, I feel like I'm
- 4:36Speaker 3: not part of it.
- 4:36Speaker 2: And therefore I haven't given it to them. You have.
- 4:38Speaker 2: It's always a surprised to me when I see what
- 4:39Speaker 2: the kids get. Let's just be.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Clear, everybody, Let's just be clear. I beg for your involvement.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I know, and I have asked, and what's your what's
- 4:47Speaker 3: your normal response to me?
- 4:50Speaker 2: I've just got to finish this email.
- 4:51Speaker 3: I don't have the headspace.
- 4:52Speaker 2: Don't have the head space.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Just take care of it.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Do you have any idea? How much work I've got?
- 4:56Speaker 3: What? Whatever you want, honey, just you do it. I'll
- 5:00Speaker 3: be really grateful, all right.
- 5:01Speaker 2: So that's the second ideas.
- 5:02Speaker 1: First idea is by essentials and use them in the
- 5:05Speaker 1: Sanda sack or find other ways to give them as
- 5:07Speaker 1: part of something to wear, something they need, something they want,
- 5:11Speaker 1: something to read. I got around the wrong way, didn't I.
- 5:14Speaker 1: And the second thing is actually stick to a budget.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Work out what your budget's going to be and stick
- 5:18Speaker 1: to it. Now, this leads into.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Its sort of dovetails with our third.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Idea, determining who you're going to give to.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Right, so, you want to give to everybody, but if
- 5:26Speaker 1: you've only got a budget, let's say a thousand dollars
- 5:28Speaker 1: for argument's sake, you just can't give to everybody.
- 5:31Speaker 3: Well you can, but giving looks different in different situations.
- 5:35Speaker 2: I like the way you said that. That's great.
- 5:37Speaker 3: So if you want to stick to your budget, then
- 5:41Speaker 3: you need to look at who are the most important
- 5:43Speaker 3: people in this scenario that you want to give to.
- 5:46Speaker 3: Hu As a parent, I'm going to suggest it's going
- 5:49Speaker 3: to be your children that you want to give to.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I can't believe you didn't see me.
- 5:52Speaker 3: Oh, you're hilarious, mister. I'll just go and buy what
- 5:55Speaker 3: I want when I need.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Stop it. Don't be like that. I get in trouble
- 5:58Speaker 2: for that all the time.
- 5:59Speaker 3: Okay, But then you've got extended family members.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Just on extended family, so there are twenty grandkids on
- 6:07Speaker 1: my parents' side.
- 6:09Speaker 3: So that's twenty nephews and nieces, well it's four of them,
- 6:12Speaker 3: six of them of ours.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and then on your parents' side it's fifteen, which
- 6:14Speaker 1: takes down to nine. So we would be buying for
- 6:17Speaker 1: twenty three nieces and nephews as well as two sets
- 6:22Speaker 1: of parents, as well as you and I as well
- 6:24Speaker 1: as our six kids. We're literally up to forty or
- 6:27Speaker 1: fifty gifts or forty or fifty people that are buying
- 6:31Speaker 1: for like that is, it's astronomical, So when you're making the.
- 6:35Speaker 2: List, you kind of need to work out.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Well, in our family, our extended families, we do like
- 6:41Speaker 1: a what do you call it, a Chris Kringle Secret
- 6:43Speaker 1: Santa szod Santa, So the kids buy for one another.
- 6:46Speaker 3: Well, in the beginning, it was the adults brought for adults.
- 6:48Speaker 3: But as we've gained more children in the family, what
- 6:51Speaker 3: we determined was that we wanted the kids to be
- 6:53Speaker 3: a part of the giving.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and the adults were all too hard to buy
- 6:56Speaker 2: for anyway.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Yeah, we all decided when we want something, we get
- 6:59Speaker 3: what we want anyway, So let's let the kids be
- 7:01Speaker 3: a part of the giving process. And that's been fantastic.
- 7:05Speaker 3: But another couple of things that I've seen other people
- 7:08Speaker 3: do is Aunties have just brought every child a T shirt.
- 7:12Speaker 3: They get a brand new T shirt from Auntie Sarah
- 7:15Speaker 3: or a brand new book.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Rachel, one of our listeners, said, this is what she does.
- 7:19Speaker 3: We also have a good understanding with extended family that
- 7:22Speaker 3: we don't buy them presents and they don't buy for us.
- 7:25Speaker 3: Jess had a really good idea as well. When we're
- 7:27Speaker 3: trying to stick to a budget.
- 7:29Speaker 4: We've organized a system where all the siblings get together
- 7:32Speaker 4: and buy a combined present for the other siblings, which
- 7:35Speaker 4: means we can all contribute a little bit less money,
- 7:38Speaker 4: but it's still collectively a large amount of money and
- 7:41Speaker 4: we can buy a decent present.
- 7:42Speaker 1: So let's just do a quick recap on that. We've
- 7:44Speaker 1: got Chris Tringle and Secret Santa. Not everybody has to
- 7:47Speaker 1: buy something for everybody. It can just be one person
- 7:49Speaker 1: buying for one other person. That way, everyone gets a
- 7:51Speaker 1: gift from the nieces, nephew's, cousins, whoever it is.
- 7:54Speaker 2: There's the idea of combining.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Funds, which we've done many times for especially for the parents,
- 7:59Speaker 1: right for your parents or my parents or whoever. It's
- 8:02Speaker 1: really hard, so you can buy them with your siblings
- 8:04Speaker 1: and you can buy something really substantial, something that's really
- 8:07Speaker 1: really diightful, and still keep it within budget.
- 8:10Speaker 2: The third thing that we need to talk about is
- 8:11Speaker 2: just making the list of gifts.
- 8:13Speaker 3: Let's talk about that after the break. It's the Happy
- 8:22Speaker 3: Families podcast, the podcast for the time poor parent who
- 8:24Speaker 3: just wants answers now, and today we're talking about gifts, budgeting,
- 8:28Speaker 3: No gifts. That's what we're talking about, all right. So
- 8:30Speaker 3: we've got so much more exciting than budgets.
- 8:32Speaker 1: We've covered off the power of making sure that we
- 8:34Speaker 1: know who we're buying for, know how much we've got
- 8:36Speaker 1: to spend, and we're giving essentials where we can and
- 8:40Speaker 1: turning them into really fun gifts like stuff in the
- 8:43Speaker 1: Santa Sack. But Kylie, you want to talk about how
- 8:46Speaker 1: you get the list of gifts right, especially when you're
- 8:49Speaker 1: on a budget.
- 8:49Speaker 3: Rachel actually had a really good idea. We use Marketplace
- 8:53Speaker 3: or gum Tree to buy secondhand if needed. Our kids
- 8:56Speaker 3: know and they don't mind. So how do you feel
- 8:58Speaker 3: about secondhand gifts?
- 8:59Speaker 2: I think it.
- 9:00Speaker 1: I mean, if it's for me, I'm going to be
- 9:01Speaker 1: upset about it, But if for someone else, probably you're
- 9:04Speaker 1: so bad.
- 9:05Speaker 2: I think it just depends on what it is.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Like let's say you want to buy a bike and
- 9:09Speaker 1: somebody wants a really nice bike, then chances are that's
- 9:13Speaker 1: going to beyond most people's budgets.
- 9:14Speaker 2: And I'd say, if you can get yourself a really.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Nice secondhand bike, it's probably going to be fantastic, and
- 9:19Speaker 1: you'll get it for less than half price, Like you'll
- 9:21Speaker 1: save an absolute bundle. We've got a daughter who wants
- 9:23Speaker 1: Pokemon cards, and you can buy box sets of poker.
- 9:27Speaker 1: You can get the whole lot secondhand, really really well
- 9:29Speaker 1: priced on Facebook Marketplace.
- 9:31Speaker 3: So thousand cards for one hundred and fifty.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Dollars, not that you want to give away too much.
- 9:36Speaker 3: I think I want a thousand cards.
- 9:38Speaker 1: No, I don't want a thousand Pokemon cards in our
- 9:40Speaker 1: house either, but we've got a daughter who wants them.
- 9:43Speaker 1: So I reckon that that could be an idea. It
- 9:45Speaker 1: could be an option for some people in some circumstance.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Probably not always.
- 9:49Speaker 3: I actually probably would have really struggled with secondhand until
- 9:52Speaker 3: a few years ago. One of my friends, she's really
- 9:55Speaker 3: really conscious about the environment, and she loves buying secondhand,
- 10:00Speaker 3: and so I wanted to give her a gift. And
- 10:01Speaker 3: I thought, it's going to feel a little bit like
- 10:04Speaker 3: a slap in the face if I go and buy
- 10:06Speaker 3: her something brand new, because it's not what she usually does.
- 10:09Speaker 3: And I knew that her family wanted a so to stream,
- 10:10Speaker 3: and so I got on Marketplace and somebody literally had
- 10:14Speaker 3: brought a brand new soda stream maker and realized that
- 10:16Speaker 3: they actually just didn't like it. So I decided I'd
- 10:18Speaker 3: get it. That it didn't come in a box, but
- 10:20Speaker 3: I got to wrap it up in a pretty parcel
- 10:22Speaker 3: for her and gift it to her family. And she
- 10:24Speaker 3: loved the fact that I had gone to the effort
- 10:27Speaker 3: of going secondhand.
- 10:29Speaker 1: I love how it's harder to get stuff secondhand, and
- 10:31Speaker 1: yet it made a bigger impact. She was grateful that.
- 10:34Speaker 1: So I guess it comes down to value systems and
- 10:36Speaker 1: what people's expectations are. But secondhand's an option in terms
- 10:39Speaker 1: of making that list of gifts. You could also go handmade,
- 10:42Speaker 1: especially if you're on a budget. We've talked about that
- 10:43Speaker 1: in previous podcasts. But taking the time to make something
- 10:46Speaker 1: when you haven't got the cash to spend.
- 10:48Speaker 2: Can be really, really meaningful. And something else that I
- 10:52Speaker 2: want to talk about.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Science tells us that giving experiences is much better than
- 10:58Speaker 1: giving gifts as a general rule, when you get to
- 11:00Speaker 1: share the experience with somebody because you create those memories together.
- 11:03Speaker 2: But if you can't give an experience.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Or you're not quite sure what to give, especially if
- 11:07Speaker 1: you don't know them well, some researchers have discovered that
- 11:10Speaker 1: giving a voucher is incredibly effective. People love it when
- 11:13Speaker 1: they get a voucher, because then they can go and
- 11:15Speaker 1: spend the money on something that they really value and they.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Still know that you've thought of them.
- 11:19Speaker 1: Plus, if you give vouchers, you get to allow them
- 11:22Speaker 1: to take advantage of the Boxing day sales and that
- 11:24Speaker 1: kind of thing. So when you're making that list of gifts,
- 11:27Speaker 1: don't discount the power of a voucher, especially for somebody
- 11:30Speaker 1: that you might not be really well acquainted with or
- 11:33Speaker 1: just not sure what to get them.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Well, Lisa had a really good point. When it comes
- 11:38Speaker 3: to gift giving.
- 11:40Speaker 5: We try and buy one good gift that we know
- 11:45Speaker 5: that they're going to use, enjoy, and will create an
- 11:48Speaker 5: experience for our family.
- 11:50Speaker 3: Ever since our kids were young, that has been our motto,
- 11:53Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I would rather our children get one
- 11:56Speaker 3: beautiful gift that's great quality. Might have cost us a
- 12:00Speaker 3: little bit more, but knowing that I could pass that one.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Down, right, Yeah exactly, there were more than one.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Kid who's going to enjoy this.
- 12:06Speaker 1: We'll get multiple childhoods out of that one gift rather
- 12:09Speaker 1: than getting something that's going to be ruined by.
- 12:10Speaker 2: New Year's Day.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
- 12:12Speaker 1: So I'm with Lisa on that one quality versus quantity.
- 12:15Speaker 1: When it comes to Christmas on a budget, sometimes worth
- 12:17Speaker 1: spending a touch more even if you end up with
- 12:18Speaker 1: a little less because of the longevity of it, and.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Our last idea, utilizing sales and laybys can really help
- 12:24Speaker 3: when you're trying to manage your budget at Christmas time.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Well, we really hope that these ideas are helpful for
- 12:30Speaker 1: you if you're doing Christmas on a budget like most
- 12:32Speaker 1: of us. The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin
- 12:35Speaker 1: Rowland from Bridge Media, and if you would like more
- 12:37Speaker 1: info about making your family happier, check it all out
- 12:39Speaker 1: at happy families dot com dot i