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Issue 313: The Bad Batch Commentary: Infested · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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Welcome to the nerd polite. Hi, this is Nick Nastasu, story editor
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on Star Wars, The Clone Wars and Star Wars bad Batch. And you
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are listening to aggressive negotiations. Well, hello, and welcome to aggressive negotiations
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coming at you from the seedy port of ord Bandel. And I'm just one
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of your hosts here, Matthew rushing and with me as he is every single
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week, slightly inebriated. Well, I'm just kidding. No, you're not
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kidding. No, no, no, no no no. Obi Wan Kenobi
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has very much set the bar super low for anybody to enjoy a drink.
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As a Jedi. For all of their talk about leading a disciplined, monastic
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lifestyle, this is obviously a Jedi order that to tie one on from time
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to time anything does like his drinks. But you would have to ask yourself
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as well, maybe Anakin should have had a few drinks to just sort of
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chill out a little bit, Like maybe that could have helped the galaxy if
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Anakin had just every so often just had a glass of something and just chilled
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the f out. See, I und't agree with you. I mean,
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what albeit one is setting such a great example, right, yep, I'm
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going to get a drink, you know, like sometimes you just need a
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drink to calm things down. You really can get in the touch with the
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forest then, because you know you're just kind of mellow. Well, here's
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let's ask an even more interesting question. I don't know if we've ever even
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touched on this, even though we're more than three hundred episodes and seven years
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in on this show. But after we get done with our bad Batch rewatch,
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which continues this week with season one, the episode called Infested, which
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is the eleventh episode, right, this is the eleventh episode of season one,
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So yes, Infested. Once we're done with this, we should discuss
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the probably the drinking age laws of a galaxy far far away. How how
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do you determine that? How do you figure it out? How do you
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figure for all different cultural mores? How do you figure out for all of
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the different how would you enforce it? How would you think of your baby
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Yoda? I mean the guys probably like fifty, can he not drink exactly?
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But man, this is a great conversation. You know what, Let's
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put a pin in that one, or rather let's put let's put one of
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those little cocktail umbrellas in it, you know, come back to that one.
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Yes, uh what's that planet? And and or what is it that
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they go that it's like the you know, cocktail planet, you know that
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there with has the beach and everything. I can't remember the name of it
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because you know if some of the show maybe twice at this point and so
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I yeah, you know, don't I mean they've got cocktail umbrellas, right,
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Uh? Yeah, yes. Unfortunately having one is in violation of the
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uh the Beach Troopers. You get arrested for that, yeah, probably,
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so get arrested, thrown in and then ironically spend your entire sentence just making
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beach umbrella you know, zat you know because on Glean's um it's fine.
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So help us out. Give us a review. And as John mentioned,
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we're going to be doing our commentary series here. We're on the thirteenth episode
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of The Bad Batch, which means there's only three more episodes left in this
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season, which is so exciting, and we're on the episode Infested. So
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what we're gonna do is I'm going to count down. I'm gonna say three,
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two one play, So on play, you're gonna hit the play button
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and so here we go three two one play, all right, here we
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go? Yeah you wish upon a streaming fis the lucasfilm logo comes on the
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screen? Yes, you know which, I just is. We're you know
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here, there's nothing happening yet. Who isn't excited for Mando season three.
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I keep seeing things about that and I'm just like so pumped and so ready.
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My muting of hashtags on Twitter is so effective that I still don't see
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mandom announcements come across. That's too bad. It goes many years back.
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Last time that the Star Wars fans were having a problem with each other,
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I muted everything so badly that, yeah, you know, it's understandable too
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well. I love the establishing shot of the city, and I think it's
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also that so many different places around the galaxy have circular bays for ships to
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land on, like it's like a standard thing in the Star Wars universe.
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Makes so much sense though, when you think about it, it makes absolutely
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perfect sense because a circle, you know, it's it's something where that can
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accommodate irregular like you're not if you're a square. What if you have something
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that's oblong. If you like, you just have need to have a large
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enough circle in any shape can go in there as long as it's not,
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you know, over large. I love the helmets on the guys that they're
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walking past right here. You know me, I'm a sucker for armor and
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helmets, and I just love this because the thing is the design is very
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macquarie esque without being slavishly so right. You know. What I also really
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like about this episode so far is the way it's establishing this idea that Sid
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is not always very truthful with them, and I really appreciate that because it
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kind of sets up a theme that we're seeing kind of play out in season
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two as well, and it kind of starting here. It's always great to
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see a Devonian. I can honestly say when I was a little kid,
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just from the minute I saw that that makeup in the cantina been captivated since
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you know, oh so many years ago. So I'm always happy to see
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a familiar alien species like that gets some screen time. Well, and you
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know, this Devoronian looks very familiar to one that we know from Rebels,
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so that's also very interesting, which again we've we've sung the praises of the
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show before. Yes we have hera, Yes we have these characters that are
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tying in to past and future series, but it's done in such a way
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it doesn't matter whether you've seen them before. They simply work as characters in
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the situations, m and the the entire you know, the entire idea here
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that once again we're getting some of this underworld action that Lucas himself wanted to
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get into being brought forward here. And I think a great this is another
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one of those great things of highlighting how the batch. They had this very
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different view of how the galaxy worked, how the world worked, because they
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were a military organization. There was a hierarchy, there was clear sense,
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there were defined missions, and now you have loyalties that get muddled. You
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have who is there anybody that's a good guy? Is there anybody that's a
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bad guy? Is or is it all just a matter of who is manipulating
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whom to whomever's you know benefit. There's no loyalty here. There's no code
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of conduct or ethics. It's simply will play by a loose set of rules
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unless I can get one up on you, and then I'm gonna take advantage
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of it well. And I think the interesting thing here too, is that
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this episode is doing such a good job of introducing us to this idea of
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the way in which all of these criminal organizations are moving into these planets,
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that the criminal underworld is growing very quickly now that the Empire is in control.
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And you know, that's something that plays into a lot of things that
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we know and the rest of Star Wars. You know, you think of
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Solo, you think of elements of rebels, you think of the connections that
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we saw even the Clone Wars here and then all the way into something like
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the original trilogy, the Mandalorian, and so I really just appreciate the way
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that this episode is building into that. And you know, again, this
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is the first season of this show. The Empire has only been in control
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for half a year maybe at this point, and so but things are moving
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at a very fast pace. And I like the fact that we're using the
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pikes again. You know, Sid makes a reference the pikes are not an
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enemy you want to make where this is. You know, the Obiwan show
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has the pikes in it, Solo has the pikes in it, Clone Wars
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has the pikes in it. This show has the Pikes in it. What
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I really enjoy about it in all honesty is Lazier impulses would simply lean into
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the Huts the way that the Expanded Universe did in the nineteen nineties, and
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instead there's an effort to introduce us to something different. It's not just a
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bunch of jabas running around. We've explored the huts thing we've had, we've
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had zero the Hut, and we've had all of the different you know,
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Hut exploration and the Clone Wars. Why stick with that, Let's move on
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to the Pikes and what the criminal owner world looks like now right well,
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and the idea that like you know, of course, the Clone Wars also
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showed us Black Sun and all of those type of organizations as well, so
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that the Huts are not the only organization. I think you're absolutely on point.
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And let me also point out that as we're watching the sequence where they're
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doing the you know, the their hand cranking the carts across the chasm,
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I sing the praises of the lighting and all that stuff of this show all
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the time. The dust when they open the big door and as they're going
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through now the dust there's that real sense of reality to the granularity that is,
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right Like, it's so beautiful. It adds so much texture and depth
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to the The other thing I love about this is they've got the cart that
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reminds you so much of the Temple of Doom, right, yes, yes
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it does, And so I just love that this is one of those nice
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allusions to previous Lucas film collaborations. And you know the fact that we're in
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a cave here, and then of course we're going to have all these bugs,
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which is another big Indiana Jones thing is having big gross bugs. So
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this whole episode kind of has that indie type feel to it, which we
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also get in season two as well, right like, we have another episode
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that has a very indie feel to it as well. So you know,
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it's just it's so great because the Bad Batch is continuing a trend that the
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Clone Wars did, which is to use other genre stories to create their own
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stories, but do it in a very Star War's way. But it also
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makes a terrific use I think of this. You know, the thing is,
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it's easy for it to sound like a like a pejorative, but I
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mean this in the best possible sense. It feels familiar in the same way
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that it feels familiar for there to be a like, you know, video
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game, like I would feel like this would be Apropos and dark Forces or
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something like that. You know, you have to be super quiet, you
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can't have the decibel level get above a certain amount. It's something that anybody
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played a game can understand the difficulty level that you're on right now. And
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am I the only one that wants that popcorn thing? Like I already told
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you I would I already yeah, yeah, you said the last time,
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but I'm just I'm saying it again because i really want it. It looks
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so good. Why are they not selling this at Galaxy's Edge. I don't
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get it. It's ridiculous. They should be selling it as a Galaxy's Edge,
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yes, and they or you know what, they should just sell it
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period. Just make it something I can buy it. Don't make it a
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destination things like Target or whatever. I also don't think they should make a
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blue milk a destination thing. I think they should make it something you can
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buy or at least share the recipe where it's like, oh, it's not
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quite the same, but you can make it at home. Sort of,
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but you know, that's my style. That's just how I do it.
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Yeah, And I also want to say that I'm always filled with glee.
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I know that it's not unique to bad Batch, but I always love the
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fact that these containers look like the containers that han. You know, we
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first saw this type of design in the original Star Wars and it speaks again
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to that idea that there is a a consistency modularity to the Star Wars galaxy
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that adds to the realism of it because you have to have mass production,
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and so seeing crates like that, I just always enjoy hmm. I also
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love these guys that have stolen his pet and that they're just kind of like
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bumbling idiots. It's like you asked Abbott and Costello to do something. Now,
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I love, okay, new plan and then he just runs away.
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That that's leg that's legit humor. That's that's a type of humor that always
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is gonna win. And I do like the fact that, you know,
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the thing I love about seeing a pet for a bad guy is, uh,
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it always reminds me of there was this cartoon. For those who are
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too young to have read it or remember it or what have you called the
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Far Side? It was a single panel cartoon by Gary Larson. It was
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big in the eighties, the best, And there was a cartoon where it
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showed these Vikings coming back, you know, sailing back to the shore,
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and the dog is standing in front of the hut, the huts with its
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tail wagging, and there's no caption on it. And when they had a
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tenth anniversary book or whatever, he said, the whole point of this comic
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was to show that no matter how terrible a person you were or are,
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your dog is always happy to see you. And it's like, that's the
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same thing like seeing him with his pet. You know. It's like,
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even though he's a criminal overlord and a terrible person and orders people dead,
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you get him in front of his pet and he's given belly scratches and cuddles.
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It's true. It's true. You know. What's also something that would
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be fun is this as a ride a gallax? Agree? Right, completely
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agree? You would have to do it, you know what, you would
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have to do a ride like this as something you would have in the void.
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Yeah, like an indoor coaster thing. Oh no, the void was
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even better than that. I don't think you ever got a chance to be
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on it, did you? The void was where you put on the VR
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helmet. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't get to do it,
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but I had friends that did, so I'm lucky enough to have done
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it three times. And this would have been a terrific void ride. This
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would have been really great. But you couldn't have the crashing because I doubt
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they would want to risk their expensive equipment like that. So I think you're
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absolutely right, Yeah, but it would it would have been I mean,
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it was so it was so convincing on that thing that at one point you
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step out onto a platform that starts, you know, it's on a repulsor
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with it starts flying over the lava on most afar, and they use this
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this thing. They would blow heat on you, so it felt like lava
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heat, and I actually got disoriented, and even though I knew on some
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level that I was standing in a room, I got scared because I have
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a fear of heights, about getting near the edge of the platform I was
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on. And it was one of those really killer moments. But none of
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that has to do with these disgusting bugs that are attacking. Yeah, I
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mean, can I just talk about how terrifying these like absolutely nasty, monster
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size locusts are. It's like a cross between moths and locusts. Like there's
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really nasty, aggressive, big hairy moths, yeah, and locusts. And
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if you grew up in the South, you know, you know that sounds
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cicadas make too. Yeah, I do know, all too well, yeah,
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all too well. But the thing is cicadas are harmless. These are,
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yeah. They when we were doing these commentaries, is kept account of
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how many times that Sid's plants almost get the batch killed. M h.
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I we're batting a thousand, aren't we pretty much? Pretty much. I
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also appreciate that the that the show embraced the disgustingness, Like you said,
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it's a real Indiana Jones type thing, not to shy away from the fact
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that the bug guts are all gross and everything. And you see that that
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half a bug twitching, It adds, it adds to the atmospherics. Well,
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it's because they took like the gen ocean bugs and just amped it up
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by twelve. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you just don't cross the
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pikes, you know, with spice. They just don't take kindly to it.
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And the classic, always the classic. I just need more time.
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And if there's one thing we know from watching anything having to do with drug
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smuggling or the mob, and I love how the Pikes they don't even flinch,
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right, They're so completely unafraid. They have guns drawn on them and
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they're like, oh, you wouldn't dare shoot us? Like they're they're not
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even afraid of what's happening right now, not in the slightest. Yeah.
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And they're the classic villains because, like they just said, we don't get
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what we want. You're not going to be the one that suffers. Your
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entire family is going to suffer. It's uh yeah, which again is a
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classic mob thing. It's not just you, We will come after you and
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your family and everybody else. Yeah. I mean they really amp up the
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godfather nature. It's not just your brains that are going to be on the
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contract, it's your whole family's brains. Yeah. And the Pikes, all
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they care about is the product. Return it to us and we will consider
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this issue resolved. We don't even care. We just murdered everybody, and
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we took Roland because obviously he's incompetent because he got his stuff stolen, you
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gave it to us? Yeah, you know what, We'll let you live.
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Well, I guess it wasn't so good that they lost that spice then
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and the caverns with all the books. But it's really really just fascinating how
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like we we don't even know for certain in the screen universe what the spice
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does. Have we ever seen somebody high on spice in a film or on
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a show? We have in the Clone Wars and the Pikes are using spice
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when obi Wan and uh Ana can go to visit them, when they're uh
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researching what happened uh to what's his face? Um? When they find out,
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you know, the whole backstory of um. But but I'm talking I'm
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talking about I'm talking about have we ever seen people dealing it on the street?
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Have we ever seen people that's true? Yeah? You know, Like
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like again, going back to the expanded universe, glitter stem m was the
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big thing, and we had a list of effects and side effects that it
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had. Right, Spice is still very nebulous, And I kind of like
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that because your head can construct what the effect is of somebody taking it,
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it's not a definite And I like that sort of thing. Of course they
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come up with a good enough explanation. I like that too. I'm not
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I'm not an in actable man, right right. And the name I was
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trying to think it was cyp Ideas, of course, so that the absolute
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beauty of the texture on the mountains as they're going over there, and Wrecker,
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yeah, the one having Yeah, but just that that why, dude,
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you gotta be kidding me, you know, like, come on.
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I think one of the things too, I like about this is that,
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you know, we're diving into this cave that's full of bugs and everything,
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and I really enjoy that there is a part of this that does feel slightly
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reminiscent to places that we saw in Genosism, which I really appreciate. Um,
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it really fits obviously that you know that there would be some kind of
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similarities. But this also, of course has an alien feel to it as
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well, and it also looks beautiful, like the floaty stuff in the atmosphere
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of the upside down. Yes, yes, so, and that we that
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I think speaks to a primal thing we know as human beings. That if
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I see stuff floating in the air in that sort of concentration, it's like
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a breathing Here is the bad idea. I don't like this, Yeah,
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and that I love the moment where we see Omega considering, oh, should
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I grab the gun? But Roland is the one that says to her,
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no, no, don't, don't do that. That's not a good idea.
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So again, he's not a monster. He's a businessman. He's a
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jerk and a criminal and all of these things. But he's not willing to
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let the He's not going to sit there and just watch a kid get or
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something killed. Well, I mean it's it's not personal, it's business,
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right Exactly. The other thing I was thinking that the spot there where the
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bugs look like it also looks a little bit like Aragogue's lair in Harry Potter
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and the Forbidden Forest. So it's like they put a bunch of those just
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uper a creepy places altogether and then do a really good job. Uh look
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at just I just there's so many, so many moments in every episode of
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these shows where I could just cherry pick imagery and just be happy with it.
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But this cameramove after a Hunter is in and then we you know,
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we we pan over to tech and Echo and that that pan just it looks
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it's so gorgeous. It's a real cameramove, you know, it's a cameramove
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I would expect to see in a film. Well, And I think that's
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the beauty of these shows is that one of the things that they do with
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the Clone Wars and the Bad Batch Rebels is that they're not placing their digital
26:06
camera in a place that you wouldn't be able to have a real camera in
26:10
real life. And that's one of the things that always helped the animation of
26:18
Star Wars look like real Star Wars right, like what we consider real Star
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Wars at the time, you know, because they weren't doing things with the
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digital camera that you couldn't do in real life. Well, it gives it
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gives the thing. The thing is, it gives the sense that the camera
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is a real thing, and which helps us believe in it more. It's
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it's a really weird sort of like dichotomy that we have in our brains sort
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of thing. Yes, it's almost like a double think thing. I need
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to believe that the camera can't go beyond a certain position in order for me
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to believe that I'm watching something and the thing is it's even more than like
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you know, oh this and that it's it's a camera with weight to it,
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and in animation it is so easy to fall trap, you know,
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or in a Michael Bay movie. Not look, I'm not knocking the guy.
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He's made plenty of movies that I like, but like he can fall
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trapped to that too with a CG stuff. But I even look at Michael
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Mann, who's one of my favorite directors, and when he started really leaning
27:15
into the digital stuff with Public Enemies or which was you know, had some
27:23
challenges there, but like I love the film Collateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie
27:27
Fox, but then he places the camera in these weird spots at certain points
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and it actually takes you out of the film because you're like, I know
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that you're using just like a little pen like camera and it just like I
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like, it immediately makes me say, oh, I know that I know
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where this would have to be. Therefore I don't believe in the the unreality
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of this anymore. I know. That was just a long winded way to
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say what we were saying before, which was you need to believe that the
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camera exists and is placed in a certain way. It's never good to lose
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a horn. No, it isn't. Yeah, And it's it's interesting that
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the call for mercy, they don't appeal to their better nature, They appeal
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to their desire not to have more trouble than they can handle. Yeah,
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yeah, No. I I think that the beauty of what they do in
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this episode is how perfectly it fits with everything we already know about the Pikes
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and the criminal underworld and that you don't want to cross the Pikes. And
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so I just love this this episode for that, And it also gives us
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the opportunity, I think, to see and beginning to get a sense to
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that there's nothing really altruistic at all about sid you know, everything that she
29:03
does is something that's going to benefit her, and that's something that's kind of
29:07
an underlying current of uncomfortable ass that you have with her as a character.
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And it's something obviously that continues all the way in the season two. And
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it's a question that I'm I'm very interested to see them have an answer.
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Can I just say the framing of Hunter as the mature dad standing with Omega
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is that's a classic end of an episode sort of thing, the dad and
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the kid. Why just stand up for him. Well, you know,
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Ruby likes him, like the way it's lit, the way that there they
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are, but also seeing the way that the rest of the batch immediately runs
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off to go have fun, you know, to have that first round on
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sid and everything, but Hunters the one that stays with her for that moment,
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that discussion about the lesson, Well, why did we do what we
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did? Are we here? What do we learn? Yeah? I think
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that's one of the most important things that's happening throughout this season and of course
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into the next, which is these characters to which were bred specifically to be
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soldiers, are having to learn how to be so much more. And I
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don't think that there's and I'm sure you would agree with this as being a
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father, there's nothing harder than raising kids. And there's nothing about these soldiers
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that thought that that was going to be a part of their life. Ever.
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Is there anything harder than raising kids? I would say, waiting until
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next week to watch the episode war Mantle fourteenth episode, that's pretty difficult.
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I'd say it's pretty much on par So I think it's been a kick you
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with infested here and getting getting to have our bug episode and our re establishment
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of the Pikes as the big batties of the under world and setting all of
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that up. But Matt, if people want to reach out to you and
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maybe I don't know kind of deal on a missing box of spice, where
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can they find you? Well, I definitely have the deal for you,
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So come see me. You can find me all over social media with that
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deal at Matt rushing ZR two, Twitter, Instagram, letterbox, vero here
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on the network. I'm also doing and I did to complete a show I
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will post with Ray Kaufman talking about Harry Potter one chapter at a time.
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I'm also over on the TFM network with a bunch of shows. One calls
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the six O two Club, which we talk about all of the fantoms we
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love. John's a frequent guest over there. We also do a couple of
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bonus shows that you can find, which is a lot of fun. I'm
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doing literary treks about the books in the comics of Star Trek or five about
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Star Trek Enterprise, the Or about Star Trek Deep Space nine, Saddle Up
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about Strange New Worlds, and the Artificial Tango about Star Trek Picard Nas.
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We're recording the Season three is beginning, so we'll be back talking about the
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last season for those iconic characters. But John, you know, if people
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wanted to see you know what else you've got going on these days, where
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are the places that you know they might be able to see that. Well,
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if people want to make the bad mistake of interacting with me online,
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look for the username Kessel Junkie k s s l j u n kie.
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There are a few people who actually seek it out and there are probably an
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equal number that regret it. So you can find me as Kessel Junkie out
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there. You can find me right here on the network, co hosting a
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show called house Lights where we look at the work of directors, And as
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we record this, we're getting ready to actually look at Tron and Tron Legacy,
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just to see the approach of two different directors to the same topics spread
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out over a couple of decades, and you know how that sort of cultural
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approach to computer technology has changed over time, especially as we're potentially looking at
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a third Tron movie. So that'll be interesting. But that's where you can
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find me. They know where they can find you. So Matt, I
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think it's time to close these negotiations, John, negotiations are closed. Join
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the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.