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The Rita Panahi Show | 26 August · The Rita Panahi Show

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  Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to The Rita Panahy Show. Coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight, business leaders take aim at the Albanese government
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  Speaker 2: as Australia's economic outlook deteriorates. My panel will join me
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  Speaker 2: to discuss the day's top headlines. UK taxpayers funding an
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  Speaker 2: asylum centre equipped with resort-like facilities, including a gymnasium and
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  Speaker 2: football pitch. Ralph Shoalhammer will have all the details there.
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  Speaker 2: Katie Pavlich will have the latest from the US, including
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  Speaker 2: the hypocrisy of the rich nepo babies of the Democrat Socialists.
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  Speaker 2: Diddy Dunleavy will join me as we pay tribute to
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  Speaker 2: the great Dolly Parton. And Lefty's Losing It features country
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  Speaker 2: singer Jelly Roll participating in a Jimmy Kimmel humiliation ritual.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Mr President, from one fat pig to another, take
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  Speaker 3: it from me that physical fitness is very important. And
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  Speaker 3: trust me, you'll be happy to see your penis again.
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  Speaker 2: But first, the country's biggest employers have delivered a warning
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  Speaker 2: to the Albanese government over Australia's mediocre global competitiveness. The
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  Speaker 2: Business Council of Australia has ramped up pressure on the
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  Speaker 2: government's economic reform agenda this week. BCA President Jeff Colbert
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  Speaker 2: spoke directly before the Prime Minister at the Association's annual
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  Speaker 2: dinner last night. and he took direct aim at the
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  Speaker 2: Albanese government for Australia's economic woes.
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  Speaker 4: Ranking 21st out of 42 nations on the competitiveness index
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  Speaker 4: is a mediocre result. And Australia is not a mediocre country.
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  Speaker 4: This is an outcome that has been decades.
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  Speaker 5: In the making.
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  Speaker 4: And there's nothing new or revealing in the reasons why
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  Speaker 4: we rank middle of the pack. It's the things that
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  Speaker 4: we always talk about. The tax rates are uncompetitive. Our
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  Speaker 4: planning systems are too slow, we're too heavily regulated, and
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  Speaker 4: the IR system is out of balance. Once again, it's
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  Speaker 4: the things that we and most commentators always talk about.
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  Speaker 4: The need to rebalance the tax system, harmonise and cut regulation,
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  Speaker 4: reduce government spending, and streamline planning systems. For every policy decision,
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  Speaker 4: there will be a consequence for business, for investment, and
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  Speaker 4: for all Australians.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me now is former Liberal MP Nicole Flint and
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  Speaker 2: News24 contributor Prue McSween. Nicole, I'll start with you. That
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  Speaker 2: was a powerful speech delivered in a room of heavyweights.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think the Prime Minister got the message?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the Prime Minister is getting the message
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  Speaker 1: on anything, Rita, but I've got to say I have
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  Speaker 1: absolutely no time or sympathy for the big end.
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  Speaker 6: Of town because they have had.
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  Speaker 1: Years, if not decades, to actually be making these points
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  Speaker 1: and not just giving speeches but doing something about it.
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  Speaker 1: where is or where has been their advertising campaign calling
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  Speaker 1: out Labor's economic wreckage? Where is their support or where
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  Speaker 1: was their support for the coalition when we did try
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  Speaker 1: and put through workplace relations changes? Where have they been
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  Speaker 1: on issues like climate change saying this is going to
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  Speaker 1: cripple Australian businesses? Where are they on the energy disaster
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  Speaker 1: we're facing? So I don't have a lot of sympathy
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  Speaker 1: for big business, have huge sympathy for small businesses who
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  Speaker 1: are just absolutely desperate to see tax and workplace relations
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  Speaker 1: and trusts and all of the economic disasters that Labor
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  Speaker 1: have introduced reversed. But the big end of town are
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  Speaker 1: actually culpable for a lot of the problems that we're
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  Speaker 1: currently seeing.
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  Speaker 2: True. We don't hear a lot from them, certainly very
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  Speaker 2: little activism when it comes to workplace laws, when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to climate change policy, energy policy. Labor's got the
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  Speaker 2: unions putting in big money advocating for their positions, but
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  Speaker 2: the corporate sector often really doesn't get involved unless it's
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  Speaker 2: a social issue, if it's something like The Voice or
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  Speaker 2: same-sex marriage. Why do you think that is? Because you
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  Speaker 2: would think it would be in their interest to publicly
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  Speaker 2: back a position and fund advertising campaigns to say why
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  Speaker 2: this is a good idea?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you'd think so, Brita.
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  Speaker 7: But of course, they also look at the government as
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  Speaker 7: a money tree, you know, a source to perhaps fund
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  Speaker 7: some of their ideology. You know, we have a situation
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  Speaker 7: now where big business has hopped onto the ideological bandwagon and,
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  Speaker 7: you know, they've sucked up tried to milk the taxpayer
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  Speaker 7: dollar to support their, whether it's DEI or whatever the
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  Speaker 7: woke du jour of the day is. And I think
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  Speaker 7: this is part of the problem. And we have a
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  Speaker 7: situation where we've got a government that is a bunch
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  Speaker 7: of scam artists.
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  Speaker 6: They spin lies.
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  Speaker 7: Isn't it ironic that in this era where we're There
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  Speaker 7: are government campaigns, all sorts of mechanisms to warn us
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  Speaker 7: of scammers. Well, the scammers are sitting in government and,
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  Speaker 7: you know, every pre-election they come out with all sorts
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  Speaker 7: of lies and promises, sweeteners, and they scam people into
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  Speaker 7: the point where they vote for them.
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  Speaker 6: And we need to all wake up.
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  Speaker 7: It's not just big business, and I agree 100% with
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  Speaker 7: what Nick said, but I also believe that the voter
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  Speaker 7: needs to wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Treasurer Jim Chalmers could be forced to back down
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  Speaker 2: on another part of his tax reform package following backlash
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  Speaker 2: over his secret super tax. Millions of people whose super
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  Speaker 2: accounts have investments in managed trusts will be paying additional tax,
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  Speaker 2: according to analysis by the Financial Services Council. Treasury said
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  Speaker 2: consultation over the changes applied to such trusts had finished
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  Speaker 2: last week. Self-managed Superfund Association Chief Executive Peter Burgess has
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  Speaker 2: urged charmers to rethink the new rules. Prue, I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: I remember the Treasurer assuring us all that Labor would
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  Speaker 2: not touch super, but it seems they've snuck through these
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  Speaker 2: tax changes and we're only really now learning about them.
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  Speaker 7: Well, the sad thing is that they think it's their money.
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  Speaker 7: You know, this is our money, our superannuation. It was
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  Speaker 7: forced on us and it was good. But the problem
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  Speaker 7: is now that, you know, you've got Albanese who wants
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  Speaker 7: to get his hands on it to do national projects.
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  Speaker 7: Chalmers wants to funnel the money into the union run
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  Speaker 7: industry super funds. You've got Jacinta Allen, who even wanted
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  Speaker 7: to get her hands on it to compensate for her
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  Speaker 7: vested interests in helping the unions, the CFMEU, to build
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  Speaker 7: hospitals and basic infrastructure and fill potholes. So Labor is
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  Speaker 7: always considered super, is their piggy bank.
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  Speaker 6: And it's all coming home to roost, sadly.
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  Speaker 7: So let's hope again that people wake up to what's
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  Speaker 7: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Nicole, do you think the Coalition has the right idea
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  Speaker 2: with a plan where people can access that money to
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  Speaker 2: invest in a home or is that really defeat the
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  Speaker 2: entire purpose of having mandatory superannuation?
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  Speaker 6: Rita, as Prue has just pointed out very well, it's
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  Speaker 6: our money.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the government's money. And there is nothing more
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  Speaker 1: important than owning your own home. You can withstand pretty
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  Speaker 1: much everything that life throws at you if you own
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  Speaker 1: your own home. So if you're a pensioner but you
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  Speaker 1: own your own home, you can usually get by. If
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  Speaker 1: you're a young couple wanting to buy your own home
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  Speaker 1: to start a family and wanting that security, then.
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  Speaker 6: Why shouldn't you be.
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  Speaker 1: Able to access your super, especially in this current economic crisis,
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  Speaker 1: if that's what's going to mean that you can put
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  Speaker 1: a roof over your head and have the certainty and
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  Speaker 1: the stability in your life to make the choices that
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  Speaker 1: you want to make? So, yes, I absolutely support people
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  Speaker 1: being able to do that when it comes to their
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  Speaker 1: own home.
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  Speaker 2: Now let's talk about health insurance, this absolutely idiotic plan
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  Speaker 2: by Labor. is going to impact 1.2 million pensioners. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to be affected by the decision to scrap the
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  Speaker 2: private health insurance rebate for over 65s. Australia's biggest private
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  Speaker 2: health insurance, including Medibank and Bupa, have warned of unintended
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  Speaker 2: consequences and disproportionate impact on poor retirees. This is going
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  Speaker 2: to have a severe impact on the public health system.
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  Speaker 2: South Australia's Labor government has now joined New South Wales,
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  Speaker 2: Queensland and Tasmania in rebelling against this proposal. Nicole, Medibank
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  Speaker 2: said between 44,000 and 91,000 people would drop their cover
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  Speaker 2: because of this policy. And that means they're going to
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  Speaker 2: join the public health system. We're going to see waiting
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  Speaker 2: lists increase further. And you're talking about age group where
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  Speaker 2: they do access those services disproportionately already. There's just so
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  Speaker 2: much downside for this policy. It seems pretty obvious. Why
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  Speaker 2: are they pressing ahead with it?
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  Speaker 1: Your guess is as good as mine, Rita. This is
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  Speaker 1: beyond belief. At the very moment when we want people
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  Speaker 1: to have private health insurance, because as we know, when
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  Speaker 1: you age, that's when you're going to have the most
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  Speaker 1: health issues. At the very moment, we want people having
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  Speaker 1: the best health care and to be able to get
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  Speaker 1: it as quickly as possible. rather than putting more burden
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  Speaker 1: on the public health system? I mean, we've got record
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  Speaker 1: ambulance ramping nationwide. Why would we put more people into
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  Speaker 1: the public system? And what really breaks my heart about
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  Speaker 1: this is that I know as a former federal MP
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  Speaker 1: that the very last thing that retirees will give up
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  Speaker 1: whether they're self-funded or whether they're pensioners is their private
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  Speaker 1: health insurance they will sacrifice pretty much everything to hold
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  Speaker 1: on to their private health insurance and Labor will be
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  Speaker 1: hurting people who have the least money to spend here. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're supposed to be on the side of
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  Speaker 1: the battlers and the working class and that is precisely
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  Speaker 1: who they will be hurting the most.
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  Speaker 2: It is an absolute disgrace.
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  Speaker 6: It's disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: Mark Butler, the Prime Minister, the Treasurer have a lot
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  Speaker 1: to answer for.
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  Speaker 2: Prue, there'll be people who will be doing their utmost
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  Speaker 2: to hold on to their cover. So they'll be downgrading
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  Speaker 2: their cover so they don't have to cancel it altogether.
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  Speaker 2: And many banks warning that the more people downgrading is
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  Speaker 2: going to raise costs for everyone because the risk has
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  Speaker 2: to be shared among a smaller pool of people. So
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  Speaker 2: the impact isn't just going to be on over 65s.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone is eventually going to have to pay more, Prue.
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  Speaker 6: That's right, Rita.
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  Speaker 7: You know, it's cruel and immoral and insane. It just
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  Speaker 7: demonstrates again how this government has no clues about economic fundamentals.
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  Speaker 6: The fact that if you tax something, if you.
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  Speaker 7: Increase prices, then there's going to be less demand. People
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  Speaker 7: cannot afford it. And this is what's going to happen,
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  Speaker 7: that we're going to have more older people, sick people
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  Speaker 7: going to public hospitals and who are already straining because
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  Speaker 7: there aren't enough aged care homes. So hospital beds are
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  Speaker 7: being taken up by people who really cannot live at home.
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  Speaker 7: This is a cycle of ridiculousness. And what we're going
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  Speaker 7: to do is see the repercussions on these poor buggers
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  Speaker 7: who have worked all their lives, who have got to
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  Speaker 7: find 800 bucks as a single person, out of a
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  Speaker 7: fixed income or out of a pension? How do they
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  Speaker 7: do that with rising costs and everything else that this
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  Speaker 7: government has created? This is totally immoral and it needs
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  Speaker 7: to be reversed. And hopefully some lights will come on
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  Speaker 7: in Chalmers' head and he'll realise he's made, again, another mistake.
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  Speaker 7: But we won't hold our breath.
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  Speaker 2: I really thought this would be one they would reverse
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  Speaker 2: course on. They would just get such a backlash that
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  Speaker 2: we get warnings from their own side as they're getting
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  Speaker 2: from the state governments telling them don't do this. But, no,
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  Speaker 2: they're pressing ahead. Primox Swain, Nicole Flynn, thank you so
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  Speaker 2: much for your time. Joining me now is broadcaster, columnist,
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  Speaker 2: academic and international relations expert Ralph Schoelhammer. Ralph, let's start
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  Speaker 2: in the UK. Daily Mail have gone inside a... UK
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  Speaker 2: Asylum Centre, which author Peter Harris describes as a holiday camp.
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  Speaker 2: It's in Wethersfield, deep in the Essex countryside. In the
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  Speaker 2: Asylum Centre, there's a fully equipped gym, a fitness room,
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  Speaker 2: a full-size football pitch, along with recreation rooms with televisions
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  Speaker 2: and pool tables. Mobile phones are provided for all with
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  Speaker 2: generous allowances for free calls. And the main restaurant provides
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  Speaker 2: free meals a day with a wide choice of meals.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, all of this is free. The only restriction
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  Speaker 2: is that all meat is halal. Non-Muslims don't get a
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  Speaker 2: choice about that. Now, Ralph, asylum accommodation contracts are estimated
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  Speaker 2: to cost taxpayers in the UK $ 15. 3 billion over the
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  Speaker 2: next 10 years.
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  Speaker 8: Well, at least now the British taxpayers see where the
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  Speaker 8: money is going. But by the way, this is not
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  Speaker 8: just a phenomenon in the UK. I mean, there is
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  Speaker 8: in Vienna in the 10th district, the new apartments were
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  Speaker 8: built there almost exclusively for migrants. We had similar conditions
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  Speaker 8: in Germany. This is a trend all over the West.
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  Speaker 8: And the issue is not that housing is provided. I
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  Speaker 8: think the issue for most people, including myself, is that
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  Speaker 8: you have the impression that the government is bending over
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  Speaker 8: backwards to treat people who are not citizens of their
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  Speaker 8: country better than actual citizens of their country. And by
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  Speaker 8: the way, this is not entirely wrong. I mean, if
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  Speaker 8: you look at the way how pensioners are treated compared
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  Speaker 8: to new arrivals in certain countries, it is true that
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  Speaker 8: these new arrivals are treated better than your own pensioners
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  Speaker 8: who've worked in your country, have paid into the system,
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  Speaker 8: who have contributed to the community for 40, 50, 60 years.
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  Speaker 8: And there's a general sense of unfairness because what drives
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  Speaker 8: this kind of behavior, and I cannot stress this enough,
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  Speaker 8: is this constant obsession by the political class to atone
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  Speaker 8: for whatever imagined sins our countries have made ourselves guilty
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  Speaker 8: in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you are right about these people being treated better
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  Speaker 2: than citizens. You would imagine their living standards are higher
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  Speaker 2: than those who are on the poverty line who have
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  Speaker 2: been in the UK their entire lives. And it's also
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  Speaker 2: a matter of inducing further illegal immigration. When you've got
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  Speaker 2: the sugar on the table, as we've discussed in the past,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have more people come there. If you
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  Speaker 2: remove those inducements, then perhaps you will have genuine asylum
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  Speaker 2: seekers only making that trip.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I mean, there's a saying now
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  Speaker 8: in Germany, and I think that is correct. What you're
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  Speaker 8: supposed to provide is bad bread and soap. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: of course, you don't want people to starve to death
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  Speaker 8: or anything, but I don't think that they need a
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  Speaker 8: fully equipped gym, a halal kitchen, a recreation room and whatnot.
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  Speaker 8: That is not the purpose and that's not the obligation
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  Speaker 8: of a country somebody is fleeing to. You come, you
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  Speaker 8: get a place to sleep, your asylum claim ideally should
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  Speaker 8: be processed very, very quickly, and then either you can
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  Speaker 8: stay or you have to leave, and that's it. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: if you look at the numbers, I don't know how
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  Speaker 8: it is precise in Australia, but probably quite similar. the
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  Speaker 8: numbers of people that legally would have to leave but
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  Speaker 8: are still there is just mind-boggling. I mean in Germany
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  Speaker 8: it's in the hundred thousands, it's similar in other countries,
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  Speaker 8: plus I would always wager we don't know the number
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  Speaker 8: of people who are actually still illegally in our countries
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  Speaker 8: because I'm, I don't want to push any conspiracy theories,
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  Speaker 8: but I don't trust the public numbers anymore for a
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  Speaker 8: very simple reason. Look at Spain. When they announced they
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  Speaker 8: will legalize illegal immigrants they said oh don't worry it's
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  Speaker 8: going to be 500 000. It's now closer to two million,
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  Speaker 8: which tells me that they did not know how many
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  Speaker 8: people are actually in their country.
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  Speaker 2: And one wonders, do you think they would have pressed
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  Speaker 2: ahead with that policy if they knew the true figure
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  Speaker 2: was two million? Or would they have been even more
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  Speaker 2: eager to do it because they're hoping they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be two million new voters for the left?
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  Speaker 8: Now, that's the interesting question, right? I mean, do they
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  Speaker 8: simply not know or are they deliberately lying? And I
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  Speaker 8: guess the truth of the untruth is somewhere in the middle.
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  Speaker 8: But we have the similar development in the United States.
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  Speaker 8: Time and again, if you listen to CNN and to
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  Speaker 8: some of the legacy media broadcasters, they still talk about
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  Speaker 8: these 12 million illegals in the United States. That was
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  Speaker 8: the same number we heard after 9-11 in 2001. Are
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  Speaker 8: you seriously telling me that there was no change in
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  Speaker 8: the number of people illegally in the U.S.? Over the
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  Speaker 8: last 26 years, nobody believes that who's in the right mind,
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  Speaker 8: and neither should we.
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  Speaker 2: Particularly during the Biden years where you had 2 million
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  Speaker 2: plus most years coming through that southern border that had
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  Speaker 2: lost complete control. Now, the UK's Border Security Command has
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  Speaker 2: warned mass casualties will be inevitable if people smugglers continue
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  Speaker 2: to use dinghies to transport migrants across the Channel. This
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  Speaker 2: warning comes after 260 migrants crossed the Channel on a
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  Speaker 2: 15-metre-long mega dinghy, smashing the previous record for a single
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  Speaker 2: boat of 165 migrants. Ralph, according to French officials, at
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  Speaker 2: least 30 migrants were thrown off the boat into the
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  Speaker 2: sea during its passage because it was so overcrowded. We've
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  Speaker 2: seen tragedies in this country, deaths at sea, until the
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  Speaker 2: boats were stopped, Ralph.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, these things are tragic, right? And every human
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  Speaker 8: life lost is a tragedy. But on the other hand,
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  Speaker 8: we have to be open about this, as you described
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  Speaker 8: at the beginning of our segment. If you create these
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  Speaker 8: pull factors, people are going to risk their lives. So
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  Speaker 8: you have to make very clear, I think Australia did
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  Speaker 8: this in the past, to make absolutely clear, you will
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  Speaker 8: not counter our country. And if you risk your life,
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  Speaker 8: there is a high risk that you will lose your life.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the.
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  Speaker 8: Only thing, so to speak, that will come out of it.
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  Speaker 8: So don't come, do not come. But the other problem
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  Speaker 8: that has not been reported enough, in my opinion, is
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  Speaker 8: that you have local NGOs in the UK, in Germany,
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  Speaker 8: in Italy, in France, who are basically accomplices of human traffickers.
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  Speaker 8: And I think something needs to be done about this
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  Speaker 8: as well. There is, I'm using this term advisedly, so
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to provoke your viewers too much, but
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  Speaker 8: there is something like an NGO-run fifth column within Western
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  Speaker 8: countries who enables these kinds of things from happening. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: we are talking about people setting over from France to
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  Speaker 8: the UK. So this is not like they are coming
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: from any war-torn country. They're coming from a fairly well-developed,
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: whatever you think about the French, from a fairly well-developed
• 19:11
  Speaker 8: country trying to go to the UK.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Now, Amnesty International is promoting a so-called Arde's Law, which
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: would impose state-mandated limits on press coverage of one person. Ralph,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about this proposal?
• 19:29
  Speaker 8: Well, it's this proposal, et cetera. But what's even worse
• 19:32
  Speaker 8: is that I think his name is Nathan Kofnas, the
• 19:35
  Speaker 8: gentleman who was very critical of Arday in his day
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: for the plagiarism and for the hiring practices that should
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: have prevented Mr. Arday from ever becoming a professor at Cambridge.
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: And he's now being silenced. He's now being suspended from
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: his institution. So we are now living in the world
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: when you say somebody lied on their resume, but that
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: person that lied on their resume happens to be part
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: of a protected victim group.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: It's you who's going to be punished.
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: I mean, this is completely absurd. What's happening in academia
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: at the moment, particularly the humanities and the social sciences,
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: I know I leave the the national science is out
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: for now. It's completely disgraceful. I mean, we talked about
• 20:13
  Speaker 8: this in a previous segment a couple of weeks ago,
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: but this is absurd. You get a job by lying
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: on your resume. Everybody knows you're lying. It was the whole,
• 20:22
  Speaker 8: I ran 30 marathons in 35 days. Then somebody uncovers
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: this and said, I've been telling you this guy has
• 20:28
  Speaker 8: been lying for three or four years. And now you
• 20:30
  Speaker 8: lose your job for pointing out that the other person
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: has been lying. Don't get me wrong. The suicide is
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: very tragic. People have mental issues. They should get help.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: I'm all for this. But the point is I cannot
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: protect people with mental health issues by simply participating in
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: their lies and then punishing those who point them out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: It's completely absurd.
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: The only place where this is happening is, quote, unquote,
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: you know, academia and the world of higher education.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Ralph, the last thing we need is more censorship, but
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: that's always the solution every time there is a problem.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I would argue Jason Arday was a victim of DEI policies.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: There was an inducement for him to come up with
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: these ridiculous stories, these claims, these outrageous backstory. Perhaps if
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: we celebrated meritocracy, we wouldn't have these situations where people
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: would have to be exposed for lying, for going through
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: this box-ticking exercise to get these positions. Ralph Schoelhammer, thank
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you so much for your time tonight.
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: Thank you, Rita.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Still to come, lefties losing at class, the latest from
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the US, including the hypocrisy of the rich nepo babies
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: of the Democrat Socialist. Katie Pavlich is up next. You're
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: watching The Rita Panahy Show and it's time for Lefty's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Losing It. Let's start with academic, author and hard left
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: simpleton Scott Galloway. I love this guy for being unintentionally hilarious.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: He's the type that's convinced himself that he's the smartest
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: man in any room, a man in his 60s, with
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the worldview of a hysterical teenage girl brainwashed by TikTok.
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: I think Gavin Newsom is going to be our president.
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: I think we're a looksist, sexist, racist country. And I
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: think a tall hand. I think the Democratic, the only
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: thing I'm fairly confident about is the Democratic nominee will
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: be a straight white man over six feet tall.
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: Do you think in general the country is racist and
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: sexist in 2026?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: That characterizes us in a general way?
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: Well, OK. I don't see any reason why Secretary Clinton
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: lost to Donald Trump other than sexism. I think if
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: she'd had a dick, she'd be our president.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Hillary was just a brilliant candidate, except for being uniquely awful, unlikable,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: deeply dishonest with a track record of failure. She helped
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: turn Libya into an open-air slave market and she also
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: had deep contempt for the American public and she wasn't
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: very good at hiding it. But sure, Scott, it was
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: her genitals that made her lose. Now you think Scott
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Galloway would learn after the Hillary disaster, but oh no,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: he put his hard-earned into backing the equally awful and
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: inept Kamala Harris.
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: I'll tell you what I'm doing this afternoon.
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: I'm going to bet $ 358, 000.
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: On Harris because on Polymarket.
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: It's $ 62.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: 38 because my observation is that the people who go
• 23:37
  Speaker 10: to these betting sites tend to be younger, tend to
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: be more male.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: That is delicious. As is this. This is Scott Galloway,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: just in recent weeks, being mugged by reality.
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: And I've been doxxed. You've been doxxed?
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: What?
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Tell me.
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: So, I don't know if you've heard, but Mayor Mamdani
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: has decided to release a list of the 950,000 residences
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: with addresses and names that might be eligible for his
• 24:05
  Speaker 10: pied-a-terre tax. I came out in favor of this tax.
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: This is the definition. He's taken a legitimate decision. source
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: of tax revenue and he's turning it into a wanted poster.
• 24:16
  Speaker 10: And the question I would have is, other than trying
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: to identify and imply these people have done something wrong,
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: and then 18 months after a healthcare CEO was executed
• 24:26
  Speaker 10: in the street and then published the list, what is
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: the upside here? Why is he doing this?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: He did it because he's a communist and that's what
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: communists do. And you're just a useful idiot that is expendable.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Now let's hear from Rosie O'Donnell, who's still basking in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the glory of her fill-in role on Jimmy Kimmel. She
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: seems to think that a media industry dominated by the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: left is somehow hostile to the left.
• 24:53
  Speaker 12: I had a wonderful, wonderful time and I want to
• 24:56
  Speaker 12: thank Jimmy Kimmel for asking me and ABC for not
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: cancelling me because, you know, times are strange and.
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: Companies, you know, kind of get afraid.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Now to the latest guest host of Jimmy Kimmel, and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: it is a surprise. This one is not painfully political
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: or hard left. He's in fact a country singer known
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: as Jelly Roll who was locked up for many years
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: but he found God and success and in the past
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: has been criticised for being MAGA. So naturally he was
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: forced to recite a typically unfunny monologue full of anti-Trump jokes.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: It was the big IndyCar race hosted by the president.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: The cars drove through the streets of D.C. and there's
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump, who apparently has never held a flag before.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: What a s * * * job that was.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: How do you f * * * up waving a flag?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: But the president seemed to enjoy the IndyCar race, which
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: was a real switch-up for him because normally he only
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: likes his own race.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yep, the humiliation ritual of Jelly Roll. Real name, Jason
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Bradley DeFord. What a sorry sight, and unlike Rosie O'Donnell,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: most of his fans probably are MAGA, so this is
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: a pretty dumb move. But maybe he thinks he'll get
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the Hollywood celebrity elite to love him if he just
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: humiliates himself and his fan base a little more. The
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: least he could do is try to be funny.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Sadly, those are the only laps Trump's been doing lately.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: According to the Washington Post, a lot of doctors are
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: worried about the president's weight. Think about this, y'all. In
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: the last few years, I've lost 300 pounds. That means
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I've lost an entire Donald Trump. And let's be honest,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: based on his approval ratings, it seems like most of
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: the country wants to do the same thing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: The routine did not get any better. Not even dick
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: jokes could save this train wreck.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Well, Mr.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: President, from one fat pig to another, take it from
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: me that physical fitness is very important. And trust me,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you'll be happy to see your penis again.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is News Nation host Katie Pavlich. Katie,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the least he and Kimmel's writing team could do is
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: make one funny joke. Just one will do. But that
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: entire monologue was painfully lame and just full of digs
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: at Donald Trump. What's new?
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: I think that's exactly it, Rita. I mean, what's new?
• 27:31
  Speaker 13: It's so predictable that everything on Jimmy Kimmel is going to.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: Be exactly this. It's old, it's tired, it's boring.
• 27:38
  Speaker 13: It's not funny, despite them bringing in a new character
• 27:41
  Speaker 13: to play the part. The fact is that the Indy
• 27:43
  Speaker 13: 500 and the race in Washington, D.C. over the weekend
• 27:47
  Speaker 13: was absolutely incredible. Freedom 250 in the nation's capital throughout
• 27:51
  Speaker 13: the summer. I've been to it. A number of events.
• 27:53
  Speaker 13: We've covered them on my show on News Nation. The
• 27:55
  Speaker 13: National Fair was amazing. The fireworks on July 4th beat
• 27:59
  Speaker 13: the Guinness Book of World Records.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: It has been an.
• 28:01
  Speaker 13: Absolutely amazing year to celebrate the country in America. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 13: as usual, we're just getting the same slop from the
• 28:09
  Speaker 13: Hollywood types and they can't apparently be creative in finding
• 28:12
  Speaker 13: anything new, not to mention celebrating what a lot of
• 28:15
  Speaker 13: Americans have done this summer in D.C., which is our
• 28:18
  Speaker 13: great country.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Just be funny. I don't even care if they want
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: to be political, if they want to keep bashing Trump,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: but find something funny because I will forgive anything as
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: long as you inject some humour into it, and that's
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: what they lack. It's just not cutting edge. It's not funny. Now,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I've got to talk to you about Dolly. We lost
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: a great one today. She was not only a country
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: music icon, she was a national treasure, I'd say an
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: international treasure. She built a seven-decade career. spanning music, movies, television, philanthropy.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And Katie, I think she was as close as anyone
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: can get to being universally loved and admired. I've got
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to say, this hit hard this morning. It's the first
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: news I saw when I got up. And though she
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: was 80, her passing was a terrible shock.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's awful.
• 29:16
  Speaker 13: This is the day that nobody who loved her whether
• 29:19
  Speaker 13: it was personally or from afar, wanted to come. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 13: I think, you know, everybody knows about Dolly's music, but
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: for me, looking at her, I really respect the way
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: that she lived her life. She was married to the
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: same man for 60 years. She got married when she
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: was 19 years old. Carl, he died two years ago
• 29:38
  Speaker 13: and she left us today to go meet him in
• 29:42
  Speaker 13: heaven and to be reunited with him. She, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 13: she didn't have children of her own. And she said
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: that's because, you know, God wanted her to work for
• 29:49
  Speaker 13: all the children in the country. And she was able
• 29:52
  Speaker 13: to distribute 300 million books through her imagination library program.
• 29:58
  Speaker 13: I mean, think about that, 300 million books for children
• 30:01
  Speaker 13: across the country. So, of course, we love her music.
• 30:04
  Speaker 13: When you talk to songwriters and artists in Nashville, John Rich,
• 30:08
  Speaker 13: for example, talks about his experience with Dolly and calls
• 30:11
  Speaker 13: her a true artist and says that Her pen to
• 30:16
  Speaker 13: paper was undefeated in terms of what she was able
• 30:18
  Speaker 13: to do with her poetry. And she also helped so
• 30:22
  Speaker 13: many people, both in the industry and outside of the industry.
• 30:26
  Speaker 13: And going back to the way she lived her life,
• 30:28
  Speaker 13: when she became more famous and got more money, she
• 30:31
  Speaker 13: took that money back home.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: She built Dollywood. She built hotels.
• 30:36
  Speaker 13: She funded programs where she was from.
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: In the mountains of Tennessee.
• 30:42
  Speaker 13: She really just lived an authentic, genuine life and never
• 30:45
  Speaker 13: forgot where she came from, despite being this amazing international superstar.
• 30:50
  Speaker 13: So certainly someone who left a legacy that we will
• 30:52
  Speaker 13: be hearing about for generations to come.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: And she wrote so many songs that people don't even
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: realise Dolly Parton was behind. She wasn't just a singer.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: She wasn't just a performer. She was a true artist
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: because she created that music. And that is a rare talent.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: She really was one of a kind. I think one
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: of the reasons she was so loved was she knew
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: her strengths. She knew she was an artist. She wasn't
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: some political commentator. She never tried to lecture the public,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: tell them what to think, tell them who to vote for.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: And she talked about that. Listen to this. I'm not
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: being political.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I don't do politics.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting into any of that because I have
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of fans out there and I don't want
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to offend anybody. And besides, I just don't get into that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And so if you are deciding you may want to
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: ask me something more serious, don't because I'm not going
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: to answer it. But I learned a long time ago,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: keep your damn mouth shut if you want to stay
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: in show business. I'm not in politics.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: I'm an entertainer.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Katie, plenty of other celebrities could learn from that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I think we get, you know, those of us
• 31:56
  Speaker 13: who are in politics, sometimes, you know, we just want
• 31:58
  Speaker 13: a break. And I think that Americans, when they think
• 32:00
  Speaker 13: about country music and they think about art and songwriting,
• 32:03
  Speaker 13: they really want to be told a story that they.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: Can relate to on a personal, soulful, artful way.
• 32:09
  Speaker 13: And politics doesn't exactly help with that. And so she was,
• 32:12
  Speaker 13: I would say, the ultimate diplomat in being able to
• 32:15
  Speaker 13: deflect that throughout her entire, very long.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: Successful career.
• 32:19
  Speaker 13: Because as we talked about at the beginning of this show,
• 32:22
  Speaker 13: in this segment, lots of celebrities like to get involved
• 32:25
  Speaker 13: in politics and it doesn't really end well for them.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: No, especially... If you're going to be particularly polarising, you
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: are going to alienate half your fan base potentially. So
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it's just a silly move, I think, unless you've got
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: some deep insight or something to impart. And sadly, most
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: of the celebrities who talk politics don't. Now, let's talk
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: about the Democrat socialists or the communists, as I call them.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Let's call them what they are. They are winning support for...
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: supposedly wanting to have a more equitable society, share the wealth,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: free healthcare, free education, free housing, free everything, tax the rich.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: But many of these identity politics-obsessed Marxists are from privileged
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: backgrounds themselves. I know you've looked into several DSA leaders
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: and candidates. What have you found out?
• 33:19
  Speaker 13: So basically, for those of you who are confused about
• 33:22
  Speaker 13: who the democratic socialists of America are, It's a group
• 33:26
  Speaker 13: of typically younger people who have very rich parents who
• 33:30
  Speaker 13: went to very expensive schools and got worthless degrees to
• 33:34
  Speaker 13: the tune of hundreds of millions or hundreds of.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: Thousands of dollars, rather.
• 33:37
  Speaker 13: They graduated from those colleges and came into the real world,
• 33:41
  Speaker 13: the work world, and discovered that they can't get paid
• 33:44
  Speaker 13: six figures, that they're not going to be millionaires with
• 33:47
  Speaker 13: a degree in women's studies. And now because of that,
• 33:50
  Speaker 13: they're trying to tear down the capitalist system and implement
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: this communism that they believe is the solution to them
• 33:57
  Speaker 13: failing in normal society. So you look at the candidates
• 34:01
  Speaker 13: that have been winning these races.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: You have this.
• 34:05
  Speaker 13: Woman in New York who won a congressional seat.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Her last name is Chevalier.
• 34:10
  Speaker 13: She was a graduate student for almost 15 years and
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: then went out and complained about how she couldn't afford anything. Well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 13: someone's paying the tuition bill, whether it's taxpayers through federal
• 34:20
  Speaker 13: loans or whether it's her parents. Maybe she can't afford
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: anything because she's actually out in the world doing a
• 34:26
  Speaker 13: real job. The latest is Gustavo Gordillo, whose parents fled
• 34:31
  Speaker 13: the communist Mao movement in Peru, came to America, were
• 34:35
  Speaker 13: very successful in the capitalist system. They bought him a
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: they put him up in their one million plus salary.
• 34:41
  Speaker 13: Brooklyn gentrified brownstone. He claims that he's in the working class.
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: He says that he was a union electrician, put it
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: in all the social media bios. Well, it turns out
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: that he is not a union electrician. He applied for
• 34:57
  Speaker 13: an apprenticeship and failed out. And also he wasn't able
• 35:01
  Speaker 13: to stay in the union because he wasn't paying his bills,
• 35:03
  Speaker 13: his membership dues to be in the union. So these
• 35:07
  Speaker 13: are just people who are trying to tear down a
• 35:10
  Speaker 13: capitalist system that they just couldn't work in as a
• 35:13
  Speaker 13: result of their fake ideas of what the real world.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: Is really about.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: And you look at someone like Mamdani, who I guess
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: is the most prominent of those socialists, his background, again,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: very privileged, both parents. You just take a deeper look
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: into his background and you see very different to the
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: portrayal that we've got in the media. Now, this week
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I've been playing footage of the extraordinary support self-confessed killer
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Lindsay Clancy has been receiving. We've had hundreds of women
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: standing outside court supporting her. Now, one of her latest
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: supporters is a Republican candidate, a former Republican Senate candidate,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Tiffany Smiley. who made all sorts of claims on Fox News,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: followed by this tweet saying, My heart breaks for Lindsay Clancy.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I hate that it took a tragedy like this to
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: talk about women's mental health and postpartum depression. Too often
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: it is swept under the rug. Our healthcare system has
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: failed women. So again, linking this triple killing to the
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: healthcare system. Katie, this woman is supposed to be a conservative.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine she'll be winning office as a Republican
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: any time soon.
• 36:31
  Speaker 13: So we had Tiffany Smiley on our show on Monday
• 36:34
  Speaker 13: night to kind of hash out what exactly she meant
• 36:36
  Speaker 13: by that. And she expounded on how she thinks this
• 36:40
  Speaker 13: is a tragedy.
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: Of course, for the children who were murdered.
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: She thinks it's just tragedy for everybody who's involved.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: My position was a little bit different.
• 36:49
  Speaker 13: You know, I don't, you know, of course, postpartum depression
• 36:52
  Speaker 13: is is an issue that women deal with. I believe
• 36:55
  Speaker 13: that they study men's health issues to the tune of
• 36:59
  Speaker 13: billions of dollars more than they do women's issues, especially
• 37:02
  Speaker 13: after giving birth.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: So there is an issue.
• 37:05
  Speaker 13: With that if they want to talk about the numbers
• 37:07
  Speaker 13: and the dollars. but to pin what Lindsay Clancy did
• 37:11
  Speaker 13: on the healthcare system and to now turn it into
• 37:14
  Speaker 13: this larger narrative that women.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: Need this and women are that.
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  Speaker 13: And I'm in a group chat with a lot of
• 37:21
  Speaker 13: friends who have very small children and they are quite
• 37:25
  Speaker 13: offended to be lumped into this category of mothers who
• 37:28
  Speaker 13: have young children who somehow now need to be seen
• 37:32
  Speaker 13: as having a mental health problem, unable to deal with
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: their children. You know, Lindsay Clancy murder her three children
• 37:39
  Speaker 13: in the most gruesome way possible. And now she's claiming
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: insanity to try and get out of it. And this
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: weird support that we're seeing of her outside of the
• 37:48
  Speaker 13: courtroom is almost justification for what she did is quite sickening.
• 37:54
  Speaker 13: And I think is a good example of a rot
• 37:58
  Speaker 13: in a deeper rot in our society.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I know you interviewed Tiffany Smiley and she
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: did try to give a little bit more context to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: those comments, but she literally tweeted out, word for word,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: my heart breaks for Lindsay Clancy. No mention of the
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: children there, no mention of the three defenceless children whose
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: life was ended by the person they loved and trusted
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the most. And I think that is going to be
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: hard to walk away from and Sticking with the Lindsay
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Clancy trial, watch the antics of this writer who was
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: there to cover the story for Vanity Fair. Brittany Romano
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: hamming it up with a smile and a wink for
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the cameras. This is a triple murder trial. This is
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: children who were strangled to death, Katie. Vanity Fair, after
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: that footage went viral, have pulled her credentials. But what
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: are they thinking? I mean, is this entertainment for some people?
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: I think it's entertainment for a lot of people, unfortunately.
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: We live in this attention economy where people think that
• 39:17
  Speaker 13: going to a triple murder trial where children were strangled
• 39:21
  Speaker 13: with exercise equipment one by one while they watched each
• 39:25
  Speaker 13: of their siblings killed by their own mother to walk
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: in the courtroom and think that this is an opportunity
• 39:31
  Speaker 13: for you to get famous is not only unprofessional, but
• 39:35
  Speaker 13: it is wildly unethical and just disgusting behavior from anybody.
• 39:40
  Speaker 6: I think that people are very.
• 39:42
  Speaker 13: Detached from what is actually happening in these cases because
• 39:47
  Speaker 13: they see it online, they see it on the internet,
• 39:50
  Speaker 13: they see it on television, and they aren't sure what
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: the gravity is of the situation.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: But the fact that she could walk.
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: In there with what is going on and behave that
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: way It's pretty disgusting behavior.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Just grow up as well. Little immature.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Any criminal trial you would think wouldn't be the place
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: to be hamming it up for the cameras, but let
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: alone the murder of three children. I mean, to me,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: it's just beyond belief. And it's we've been discussing it
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: all week. The lack of. mention of even these children.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: It seems like every video, and there's so many of them, thousands,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: maybe tens of thousands of these videos of women sharing
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: their opinions, they're all focused on the killer or the
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: husband of the killer. These children seem to have been
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: entirely forgotten. Katie Pavlich, it's always a pleasure to have
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: you on the program. Thank you so much.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. Great to see you. Thank you.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Still to come, we pay tribute to an icon, an
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: absolute international treasure, Dolly Parton. Didi Dunleavy will join me next.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Joining me now is broadcaster Didi Dunleavy. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: we have to speak more about Dolly Parton, an absolute
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: international treasure. Not only her music but her whole perspective
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: on life should be celebrated. President Donald Trump said there
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: will never be anyone like her and he announced flags
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: would be lowered at half mast across the US for
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: an entire week. Let's have a look at some of
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: the reactions of her friends. Dolly shared a close relationship
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: with Billy Ray Cyrus. She was Miley Cyrus' godmother. Billy
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Ray wrote, I'll never forget walking into her dressing room
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: to apologise for all the tabloid stories which claimed I
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: was having an affair with her. In true Dolly fashion,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: she just looked at me, winked and said, honey, this
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: trash sells records. Music legend Paul McCartney said her songwriting,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: her singing and her philanthropy were unrivalled in the world
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: of country music and it is hard to imagine living
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in a world without Dolly. And Ella Langley, a star
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: who many likened to Dolly, said, thank you for standing
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: up for yourself as an artist, a songwriter, musician, producer, author, creative,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and most importantly, a woman in this industry. Diddy, I
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: could read tributes to her all day. She was one
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: of a kind, supremely talented and universally adored.
• 42:33
  Speaker 11: Well, she was definitely from a very young age, but
• 42:36
  Speaker 11: there's not that many people who, when they die, are
• 42:39
  Speaker 11: universally loved. And it was partly due to the fact
• 42:42
  Speaker 11: that she refused to be drawn on politics. She just
• 42:46
  Speaker 11: worked hard.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: She created great music. She entertained.
• 42:49
  Speaker 11: She quietly gave away so much money without all the
• 42:53
  Speaker 11: virtue signaling that we usually see celebrities associate with that
• 42:56
  Speaker 11: sort of behavior. She allowed millions of children around the
• 42:59
  Speaker 11: world through her book program to be able to embrace reading.
• 43:04
  Speaker 11: She was just, like you said, one of a kind
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: and she came from nothing to make such a success
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: of herself. Who wouldn't admire that?
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: It's an enormous loss. Oh, absolutely. Now let's talk about
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: more tawdry matters locally. Brisbane Lions star Lockie Neal's ex-wife
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Jules has made a bombshell claim about the AFL star
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: on a podcast. She claimed Lockie cheated on her with
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: at least two different women, one of which was her
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: best friend. Let's have a listen.
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: The worst day of my life. Yeah. Didn't leave bed
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: for four days.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: How did it come out in the media? Was it
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: leaked at all?
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Probably leaked by me.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a kiss and I actually packed
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: up and left because of that. Didi, this was the
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: biggest off-field scandal in football of the past year until
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: the so-called Pullman Five. And the story gets ever weirder
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: with Tess Crossley, the other woman, the former best friend,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: going on a podcast herself to tell her side of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the story. What is going on? This story, such a
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: private matter, is just completely out there for everyone's consumption
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: at the moment.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 44:16
  Speaker 11: And look, personally, I don't agree with sharing every minute
• 44:20
  Speaker 11: detail of what goes on in your life, especially such
• 44:22
  Speaker 11: personal things, because her children are going to grow up
• 44:24
  Speaker 11: and read all about it and see that it was
• 44:26
  Speaker 11: talked about. I don't know how they'll feel about that
• 44:28
  Speaker 11: in the future. I'm not sure if Tess Crossley is
• 44:30
  Speaker 11: doing the same podcast, but she will be speaking out
• 44:32
  Speaker 11: on a podcast. But the big revelation in this interview
• 44:36
  Speaker 11: was the fact that according to Jules Neill, not only
• 44:40
  Speaker 11: had Lockie Neill had this affair that was not just
• 44:42
  Speaker 11: a one-off thing, but a four-month affair with Tess Crossley,
• 44:45
  Speaker 11: but that there were other.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Indiscretions as well.
• 44:48
  Speaker 11: And the reason this is such a big talking point,
• 44:50
  Speaker 11: I think, is because he is an AFL player. The
• 44:53
  Speaker 11: AFL loves to lecture us on moral issues. This is
• 44:57
  Speaker 11: not the AFL's responsibility. It's his decision to have had
• 45:01
  Speaker 11: these affairs, allegedly. Are we allowed to say?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway, he hasn't broken the AFL rule. I don't think
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Lachie's going to be swaying over this. And I think,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm on the fence about this because
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: on the one hand, yes, it is deeply personal and
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: perhaps it's not a good idea to put it out
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: there for everyone to know every sort of detail. But
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: then you're right, the AFL do like to lecture us
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: about every facet of life and I think this does
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: play into that because you do have footballers who've got
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: this culture of groupies and hangers-on and end-of-season trips and
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: interstate trips. But that doesn't necessarily mean you.
• 45:40
  Speaker 11: Have to commit an indiscretion or not be grateful to
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: your marriage.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: No, you don't. I'm not making excuses but I'm just
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: saying there is this hypocrisy at play and I think
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: I wonder whether that's part of why... She has come forward,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Jules Neill, to say this is actually what happens. Despite
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: the glossy image that's portrayed, it can be pretty ugly.
• 46:02
  Speaker 11: Well, the AFL creates this environment where these young men
• 46:05
  Speaker 11: have enormous amounts of money and fame and they promote them.
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: So they become these sort of demigods for a lot
• 46:11
  Speaker 11: of young people. So I feel as though this interview
• 46:14
  Speaker 11: that she did was a shot across the bow of
• 46:16
  Speaker 11: the AFL and the clubs. that they need to look
• 46:19
  Speaker 11: at their own culture before they start telling everyone else.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: What to do. And, you know, the kids are going
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to ask why Mummy and Daddy got divorced. I think
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: they're going to know anyway, whether it's in the media
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: or not. Now, this story just.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: I thought we heard the end of the Kyle and
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Jackie O saga, but no. Jackie O has now come out,
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Jackie O Henderson, and accused Kyle Sanderlands of causing her
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: post-traumatic stress disorder. Here is Kyle's reaction to that.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: And I was shattered and really just instantly burst into
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: tears when I read that Jackie's claims that I've caused
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: her to suffer PTSD. And I just fell apart this morning.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: So crying in the shower like a big sook. And
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: I pulled myself together, like shampooed my hair and did
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: all that. But it was really very, very, very upsetting
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: to read terrible things like that about yourself. And obviously
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: it's her truth. But that is so against the reality
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: of what happened was. It's very unfair and it's completely
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: the opposite. I don't know if she was looking into
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: a mirror every day, but just so if she ever
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: hears this, that's what we were getting with you. We
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: never knew whether you're going to be interested every day
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: or not give a f * * k or on
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: some trip or off with the fairies. So to be
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: accused of that is something I'll never get over.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Didi, you and Grubby were the OG radio duo. You
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: did breakfast radio for decades. What do you make of that?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: PTSD is a massive claim to be making. People who
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: go to war, people who endure the most horrific circumstances
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: suffer from that. Does that make sense to you?
• 48:04
  Speaker 11: Look, it's a very intimate relationship. There's not many people
• 48:07
  Speaker 11: who would sit opposite their marital partner and talk for
• 48:10
  Speaker 11: three or four hours straight every morning. I can understand
• 48:13
  Speaker 11: them not wanting to chew over every little issue that
• 48:16
  Speaker 11: comes up. But if these are big enough issues that
• 48:18
  Speaker 11: she claims that they gave her PTSD, did she not
• 48:22
  Speaker 11: raise them at any point with another colleague, with a producer,
• 48:25
  Speaker 11: with somebody in management? And the fact that it seems
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: to have come, I mean, he seemed genuinely emotional there.
• 48:32
  Speaker 11: It seems to have come as a genuine shock to him.
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: I'm trying to be careful not to victim blame because
• 48:39
  Speaker 11: I understand that she's got herself into a very vulnerable position,
• 48:43
  Speaker 11: emotionally vulnerable. And I don't want to say that she's
• 48:47
  Speaker 11: making it up now, but I also wonder when did
• 48:50
  Speaker 11: these issues start? Those two have been together for the
• 48:53
  Speaker 11: best part of 25 years, I think. So did he
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: only just start behaving that way to her or did
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: she tolerate it the whole way through? Again, I can
• 49:01
  Speaker 11: understand that because you do what you do to get
• 49:03
  Speaker 11: through to the next day.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: But he explained in that discussion this morning that she
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: was part of the planning, the product that they produced
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: for the public. She wasn't just a passenger, she was
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: a creative who managed made decisions along the way. So
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: to now be playing the victim in that fashion is interesting,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: but she is in a legal battle. We're talking about, what,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: around $ 80 million that's remaining on that contract.
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: We've got to take all of that into account. I've
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: run out of time. Don't go anywhere. Late edition is
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: up next.