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July 20, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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  Speaker 5: All right, it's quitting time here on the Zone, five
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  Speaker 5: o'clock on a Monday evening. Caleb Rapley here filling in
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  Speaker 5: for Chip and now joining us in the studio is
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  Speaker 5: mister Russey Berson, the Aggie historian, author and your resident
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  Speaker 5: Texas Rangers fan.
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  Speaker 6: Russy. How you doing I'm doing good, Caleb. I'm a
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  Speaker 6: little disappointed with the Rangers after blowing a game yesterday
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  Speaker 6: where they allowed three runs because they couldn't play any
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  Speaker 6: defense in an any but they're still in first place,
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  Speaker 6: even though my half game and so they're still playing
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  Speaker 6: meaningful baseball, and of course in the American League West,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's gonna come down to the very last,
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  Speaker 6: the last few. It's got to come down last week.
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  Speaker 6: There is no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: It's shaping up that way for sure.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, who really wants to win the division?
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  Speaker 5: Nobody?
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  Speaker 6: Nobody, And we'll talk a little bit later. Because I
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  Speaker 6: saw a couple of trade possibilities. The Athletic threw out
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  Speaker 6: a couple of trade possibilities. I thought one of them
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  Speaker 6: involved the Rangers, and I really like it, but we'll
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  Speaker 6: talk about that a little later.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it doesn't really look like anybody wants to win
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  Speaker 5: the AL West right now. With the amount of losing
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  Speaker 5: streaks that each of these teams have had, you would
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  Speaker 5: think somebody would have pulled away by now.
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  Speaker 6: What about the Red Sox Thirteen straight wins? That is
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  Speaker 6: just absolutely crazy. It's something that they hadn't done since
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  Speaker 6: like the early nineteen hundreds. Everybody wrote them off, including me,
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  Speaker 6: any of the Red Sox fans. They were probably like
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  Speaker 6: two weeks ago. Everybody was talking to who they're gonna trade.
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  Speaker 6: They're gonna be sellers, sellers, sellers, and now thirteen straight
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  Speaker 6: and now they're above five hundred. And it's just amazing.
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  Speaker 6: What a streak like that too, you know, I've seen
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  Speaker 6: it so many times. If a team can rattle off
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  Speaker 6: ten twelve games in a row, it will often be
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  Speaker 6: enough to win the division or get into the postseason,
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  Speaker 6: because if you just play five hundred baseball or a
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  Speaker 6: little below five hundred baseball the rest of the way,
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  Speaker 6: then you're in. And even when the Rangers won the
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  Speaker 6: World Series in twenty twenty three, they were forty and
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  Speaker 6: twenty after sixty games, but they were below five hundred
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  Speaker 6: of the rest of the year, but it was still
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  Speaker 6: enough to get them in. It takes that hot streak
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  Speaker 6: at some point in time, and nobody in the West
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  Speaker 6: has had that hot streak. I still think, you know,
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  Speaker 6: on paper, theoretically the Mariners are the best team.
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  Speaker 5: I'd agree with that if cal Rally ever gets his
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  Speaker 5: back going.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I hope he never does.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: You know, they after the Rangers host the White Sox
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  Speaker 6: three tonight tomorrow and the next day, and then the
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  Speaker 6: Mariners coming for four that series, and these two series
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  Speaker 6: are gonna be big, and then they go to Houston
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  Speaker 6: for three and so those ten games are going to
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  Speaker 6: decide whether the Rangers or buyers sellers, and at this point,
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  Speaker 6: you know, it's hard to even talk about selling. I
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  Speaker 6: just listened to Chris Young on the Dallas for Worth
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  Speaker 6: radio station. He has a show every Monday, and he
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  Speaker 6: was just talking about, well, we're gonna do whatever's best
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  Speaker 6: and to keep this team in the race and be competitive,
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  Speaker 6: and uh, we're gonna give it a run. So I
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  Speaker 6: think that's just Chris Young's personality. Quite frankly, the Rangers
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  Speaker 6: and Astros don't have a lot to get, you know,
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  Speaker 6: a huge name because their farm systems are so decimated,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, aside from Sebastian Walcutt for the Rangers,
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  Speaker 6: they don't have a guy who's gonna draw a big
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  Speaker 6: name talent who's gonna be a true difference maker, at
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  Speaker 6: least from the pitching standpoint. But again, I think we'll
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  Speaker 6: talk a little bit later about some of the minor
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  Speaker 6: trades that these teams can make to make themselves better,
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  Speaker 6: because I mean, the Rangers have gotten a lot of
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  Speaker 6: good contributions from guys who you know, I never heard of,
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  Speaker 6: and they've done a great job of picking guys up
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  Speaker 6: off off the waiver wire, so that's been a very
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  Speaker 6: very interesting thing to see. Again, the American League West
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  Speaker 6: is fifteen. The Rangers are leading at fifteen to forty nine.
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  Speaker 6: Seattle's a half game back at fifty and fifty, and
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  Speaker 6: the Astros are just four games back even though they've
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  Speaker 6: lost four in a row. Interesting, there's only one team
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  Speaker 6: in the American League West that has a positive run difference,
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  Speaker 6: and that's the Mariners, and they're plus thirteen. If you
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  Speaker 6: look over in the American East, the Yankees are plus
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  Speaker 6: eighty five. It's pretty amazing how these teams are just
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  Speaker 6: and then the the the Braves are plus one oh eight.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. The interesting thing you were talking about differential there
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  Speaker 5: the Rangers, I think it was them last season that
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  Speaker 5: had a really good run differential, Yeah, and ended up
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  Speaker 5: being a five hundred team. Yes, Like it's just wild
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  Speaker 5: how a lot of times that doesn't really tell you
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  Speaker 5: anything about the team. Usually the best teams it does,
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  Speaker 5: but those middle tier teams.
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  Speaker 6: Do you ever look at that expected win loss total
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  Speaker 6: in the standing, Yeah, because it's so interesting because the
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  Speaker 6: Manners projected are fifty two and forty eight and the
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  Speaker 6: Rangers are forty six. And forty three. That's the projected right,
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  Speaker 6: and so it's interesting to see, you know, who's actually
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  Speaker 6: projecting like it actually has a close record to what
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  Speaker 6: their projection is because I mean, the Rangers just lost
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  Speaker 6: fifteen to one, uh in the first game against the Braves.
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  Speaker 6: That's hard to overcome. And your run differential.
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  Speaker 5: The same thing with the A's when they lost. Was
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  Speaker 5: it twenty three to one?
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  Speaker 6: So like yeah, yeah, I mean that's really hard to
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  Speaker 6: overcome and the run difference. All right, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 6: out to the Polaris Fund Center or phone line. I've
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  Speaker 6: got a very I'm very close to the person calling in.
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  Speaker 6: I'm gonna welcome Lindsay Burston Shaw, my sister in from
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  Speaker 6: South Carolina. How you doing, Lindsay?
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  Speaker 7: Oh so, big brother, how's it going?
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  Speaker 6: It's going good. You know, I really appreciate you being
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  Speaker 6: on the show, because I was talking to Caleb here
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  Speaker 6: before the show started as like, you know, I'm not
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  Speaker 6: a soccer fan, but I don't know much about soccer.
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  Speaker 6: But what I really enjoyed about the World Cup was
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  Speaker 6: to see how much fun people were having foreigners Americans
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  Speaker 6: just the response of gosh, this is a great country
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  Speaker 6: and I know you and Richard, your husband, my brother
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  Speaker 6: in law, big soccer fans, and I just y'all went
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  Speaker 6: to a game, and I really wanted to get your perspective.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all went to a game in Dallas, and Richard's from England.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously y'all are big England fans, and so just just
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  Speaker 6: talk about, if you will, what that experience was like
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  Speaker 6: for the entire family.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, now, it was a fun one. I mean, honestly,
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  Speaker 7: we were incredibly worried about just parking and what that
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  Speaker 7: you know, game day experience would be like compared to
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  Speaker 7: you know, a Cowboys game or even a college football
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  Speaker 7: game at Jerry's World. But they had it really very coordinated.
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  Speaker 7: We got there pretty early. We went to Texas Live,
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  Speaker 7: and of course, like at Texas Live, it's it kind
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  Speaker 7: of had a similar feeling to being I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: like maybe even at Omaha, you know for the College
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  Speaker 7: Series where everyone's walking around regardless of whether their team
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  Speaker 7: is playing, they're walking around in their shirts. Right, So
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  Speaker 7: like Japan and the Netherlands had played right before England
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  Speaker 7: was playing Croatia, and you know you saw the Dutch
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  Speaker 7: walking around and all of their their orange gear, from
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  Speaker 7: from their fan walk and whatnot. And you know, people
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  Speaker 7: were just so like talkative, you know, you'd walk up
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  Speaker 7: to anyone and start having a conversation.
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  Speaker 6: It was.
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  Speaker 7: It was really great fun. I think that is frankly,
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  Speaker 7: At and t had it really well organized in terms
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  Speaker 7: of being able to you know, get drinks easily or
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  Speaker 7: move around easily and that type of thing. I will
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  Speaker 7: say I was kind of shocked though that I looked
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  Speaker 7: up the attendance numbers and it was about seventy thousand
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  Speaker 7: for the England versus Croatia game, and at the average
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  Speaker 7: Cowboys game, I think it was probably like ninety thousand, right,
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  Speaker 7: really did definitely feel like a lot less people. But yeah,
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  Speaker 7: and I was shocked because the tickets were, you know,
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  Speaker 7: so expensive and whatnot that you would think that every
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  Speaker 7: single seat was sold out. Well, I have a friend
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  Speaker 7: of mine who actually works Cowboy Stadium and she basically
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  Speaker 7: said that, you know, FIFA was charging too much for
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  Speaker 7: those field levels weeks that they.
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  Speaker 6: Weren't all full and so y'all, y'all were up pretty high, right.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, we were up very high.
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  Speaker 6: How much, if you don't mind, how much per ticket
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  Speaker 6: did you have to pay for that.
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  Speaker 7: That's a great question, and Richard would know the answer
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  Speaker 7: to that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know. He doesn't want you to know.
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  Speaker 7: I will tell you. He did come back to me
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  Speaker 7: as soon as those tickets went on sale and he said,
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  Speaker 7: I just spent some of our retirement.
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  Speaker 6: Well, he grew up obviously in England. Did he play
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  Speaker 6: soccer throughout his childhood?
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  Speaker 7: He did?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, and so all three of the kids played soccer,
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  Speaker 6: and so you had everybody there, I get minus one
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  Speaker 6: of the kids, right, yes, okay, So from a family
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  Speaker 6: experience going to the game, where does it rank on
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  Speaker 6: your all time sports list? Let me preface this by
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  Speaker 6: telling the Forber listeners out there that you went to
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  Speaker 6: the TCU National Championship. You're a TCU cheerleader, TCU graduate,
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  Speaker 6: so you got to go see tu play for the
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  Speaker 6: National Championship. Wasn't a good game for TCU, but you
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  Speaker 6: got to go. You got to be there. That's a
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  Speaker 6: little more than any A and M fan living can
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  Speaker 6: ever say. Because nineteen thirty nine was a long time ago.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think anybody who went to that game, the
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  Speaker 6: Sugar Bowl nineteen thirty nine is still alive. So where
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  Speaker 6: does that rank going to the World Cup see England play.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think if you'd ask for Richard
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  Speaker 7: or even the kids, you know, they might put a
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  Speaker 7: little higher than I would. But I will tell you
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  Speaker 7: that any college football game is always going to be
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  Speaker 7: at the top of my list, and especially as my
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  Speaker 7: frogs are playing, right, I mean, that's just the reality
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  Speaker 7: of it. It's your team playing, and it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: what you missed from a World Cup game, which you
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  Speaker 7: would get from even a premier league game, is like
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  Speaker 7: that kind of synchronized tradition, you know, the like the
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  Speaker 7: game day playbook if you will, with you know, the band,
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  Speaker 7: the cheerleaders, the rituals, the things that you do, and
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  Speaker 7: the World Cups didn't have that, you know, because they're
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  Speaker 7: not favoring one team or another. There's like a home
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  Speaker 7: field advantage. So but yeah, I mean college football very
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  Speaker 7: much high on the list, although my husband would probably
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  Speaker 7: you know, he went to both and his dream was
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  Speaker 7: to go watch England play in a World Cup, which
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  Speaker 7: so I'm sure he'd rank it higher.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and you got to see a wind I'm curious,
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  Speaker 6: did y'all watch the third place game or we all
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  Speaker 6: just so frustrated after England lost that you didn't even bother.
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  Speaker 7: No, I mean, we think that game is ridiculous and
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  Speaker 7: it shouldn't be played. But we did watch it, just
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  Speaker 7: the CS and Bob would score and he did and
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  Speaker 7: I was happy to see that because I am not
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  Speaker 7: a Messy fan.
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  Speaker 6: But well because obviously the England lost to Argentina. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: I understand. Did you know that the Messi played at
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  Speaker 6: cayle Field earlier this year?
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  Speaker 7: No, I did not.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a big, big event, over one hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 6: It was an exhibition game and Marcel Reid the quarterback
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  Speaker 6: at Texas A and m where's number ten? And so
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  Speaker 6: a pregame ceremony. Messi didn't actually play. Argentina played, but
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  Speaker 6: during a pregame ceremony, Marcel Reid presented his number ten
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  Speaker 6: jersey to Messy, which I'm sure of all Messi's accomplishments,
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  Speaker 6: it's probably ranks there like number one all time that
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  Speaker 6: he got to meet Marcel Reid. But no, I know,
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  Speaker 6: very very frustrated that Argentina defeated England and that you
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  Speaker 6: were not pleased with the coaching decisions to kind of
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  Speaker 6: pull back and play defense.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, that is absolutely. I think people give Argentina a
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  Speaker 7: little bit, you know, or a lot of credit, and
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  Speaker 7: which they deserve, don't get me wrong, but I think
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  Speaker 7: that was an incredibly poor coaching decision.
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  Speaker 6: So well, Messi was the only name I knew coming in,
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  Speaker 6: but now I knew Kane, so so I know that
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  Speaker 6: because I was watching, I was rooting for England.
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  Speaker 7: Harry Kane was in my wedding though, I remember that.
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  Speaker 6: Now, that's awesome. That is awesome. Well, hey, I thank
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  Speaker 6: you so much coming on here. I love you, and uh,
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  Speaker 6: this is the first got to talk to my sister
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  Speaker 6: on the radio.
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  Speaker 9: All right, Well, thanks, thanks.
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  Speaker 6: Caleb, appreciate that. I just wanted to get the perspective
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  Speaker 6: of somebody who had actually been to a World Cup game.
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  Speaker 6: And if anybody's out there listening and they actually went
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  Speaker 6: to a World Cup game, I'd love to hear the
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  Speaker 6: experience that they had. If they went to Dallas Stadium,
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  Speaker 6: which I hate that name because it's in Orleans and
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  Speaker 6: and you know, I don't mind it not being at
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  Speaker 6: and T, but I wanted it to be Arlington Stadium.
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  Speaker 5: But or even just Texas Stadium.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, text, but they played in Houston, so I guess
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  Speaker 6: they couldn't have done that.
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  Speaker 5: Texas Stadium inflated Jerry Jones's ego a little to much.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, that probably would have done the trick.
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  Speaker 5: But honestly, because of the whole, you know, sponsorship thing,
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  Speaker 5: Like I get why they made people not call it that,
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  Speaker 5: but why couldn't we just call it Jerry World? Like
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  Speaker 5: why wouldn't that had been amazing if that had been
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  Speaker 5: the official FIFA name was Jerry World. And I guess
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  Speaker 5: that's kind of a sponsorship, but that would have been hilarious.
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  Speaker 6: I would have loved it, you know, because what they
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  Speaker 6: call the championship game yesterday? It was a met Life
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  Speaker 6: But what'd they call it? New York Stadium?
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  Speaker 5: I think they called it New York Stadium. Yea, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's weird. So I looked it up while y'all
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  Speaker 5: were talking about it. The cheapest face value tickets for
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  Speaker 5: that game was like two hundred and sixty five dollars.
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  Speaker 5: That's face value from the venue.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, not on the secondary market.
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  Speaker 5: Secondary market it could have been who knows.
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  Speaker 6: Well. At one time they were talking about like seven
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  Speaker 6: point fifty for a parking spot that I believe it
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  Speaker 6: and then they were talking about the Uber and the
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  Speaker 6: you know what do you call it? The high rate?
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  Speaker 5: The Uber Black.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I made a mistake of we went to
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  Speaker 6: took my family to the Rangers Cubs game at Wrigley
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  Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, and it was when the Rangers had the
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  Speaker 6: best record the American League. Cubs went on to win
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  Speaker 6: the World Series. I had the best record in the
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  Speaker 6: National League. And it was very early in my Uber experience,
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  Speaker 6: and I did not realize how much that was going
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  Speaker 6: to cost me because right after the game, everybody and
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  Speaker 6: the brother It's a Friday afternoon in Chicago, and it
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  Speaker 6: took forever to get to our hotel. Once I once
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  Speaker 6: we got done and I got out of the Uber
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  Speaker 6: and saw how much it was going to be, I
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  Speaker 6: was like, oh my gosh, that's going to cut into
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  Speaker 6: our vacation. We might want to eat Wendy's one night
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  Speaker 6: instead of the Deep Dish pizza.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So what are the other big storylines following
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  Speaker 5: this World Cup? So for all of these stadiums that
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  Speaker 5: were in America, I think I think it was all
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  Speaker 5: of them right. They had to have natural grass instead
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  Speaker 5: of artificial turf, and it looked great. Yeah, it did
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  Speaker 5: look great. I think that's FIFA regulations. But anyway, so
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  Speaker 5: immediately after the last World Cup game at Dallas Stadium,
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  Speaker 5: maybe we can call it AT and T again. World
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  Speaker 5: Cup's over, we can call it by its real name again.
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  Speaker 5: But immediately after that last game, they started rolling the
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  Speaker 5: turf back out and there were there have been a
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  Speaker 5: lot of NFL players on social media and otherwise come
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  Speaker 5: out and say, you did this for the World Cup,
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  Speaker 5: why can't you do it for us too, Why can't
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  Speaker 5: we have natural grass just standard in the NFL MetLife Stadium,
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  Speaker 5: like you were talking about. That's where they had the final. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: they hosted eight World Cup matches on their natural grass field,
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  Speaker 5: which was temporary, so with.
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  Speaker 6: A lot more sense that they could actually keep that
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  Speaker 6: in New York.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The problem with keeping it at AT and T is
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  Speaker 6: that that ridiculous video board blocks most of the sun.
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  Speaker 6: And so what they had to do to grow that
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  Speaker 6: grass is bring in those those low lamps. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 6: they hung them over there. And but it's theoretically it's possible,
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  Speaker 6: and to your point, Jerry Jones can.
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  Speaker 5: Afford it exactly. That's yeah. So that's what I was
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  Speaker 5: saying you know, before before we came on the air here,
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  Speaker 5: I was saying, yes, it's expensive. I know it's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of trouble to do this, but this is the
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: the NFL is the biggest sport in America.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: The Cowboys, like you said, make the most money out
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: of any team them specifically, they should be able. Jerry
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Jones can pay for it. Why doesn't he?
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: Right? I mean, they are the number one team in
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: all sports in America based on merchandising and revenue, obviously
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: not based on football results, because they have not been
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: to a Super Bowl since nineteen ninety six. You know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: my son turned thirty last week and he's he's never
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: seen the Cowboys win more than one playoff game, so
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: the super Bowl. He was born in ninety six, in
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: July of ninety six. The last time they were in
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl was in January of ninety six. And so,
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: but nevertheless, there are so many Cowboys fans. And I'm
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: guilty of it too, because I've bought their merchandise and
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: I've bought the family the merchandise and all those kind
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: of things. But yeah, he can afford it, and it
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: is I would think that it is just and I
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: know they've come a long way with artificial turf right
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: in the safety of it, but it's still you can't
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: beat natural grass, especially playing football. I mean yeah, more
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: so football than just about anything else.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we were talking about baseball, almost all of
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: the I think you said it was twenty eight out
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: of the thirty stadiums.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Now only two stadiums that don't have natural grass I
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: believe are Arizona in Texas.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not really as much of a safety
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: thing in baseball. Like, yes, there is still some lateral movement,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: but not near as much as there is in football.
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: Right because they're still dirt. I mean, it's still natural dirt,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: not like in the old seventies, like when the and
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: the city used to have the cutouts, you know, and
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: those were awful because most of the turn underneath. Oh
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: it was terrible. Yeah like that too, I guess yeah, I.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Think that's right. But so the thing about the NFL,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: it's exactly half of the stadiums have turf and exactly
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: half have grass. So it's not u you get used
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: to playing on turf because you're going back and forth
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: every week if you play, if you're that that's the
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: I think that's one of the bigger issues is that
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: if they were all turf, I think it'd be a
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: little easier to get used to it. And you know, honestly,
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: NFL probably wouldn't be as explosive because people wouldn't be
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: trying to cut as hard. So that's not a better product.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: MetLife Stadium, the Jets and Giants, they've had some really
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: big names have injuries over the last six years. Yes,
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers Jets career came to a very abrupt start
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: and stop his first season with them when he tore
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: his achilles in like the third play of Game one.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: Elik Neighbors who knows when he's going to come back
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: after his torn a cl So there have been a
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: lot of big names get hurt over the last six
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: years at MetLife specifically, I think that's kind of widely
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: regarded as the worst one. That one, and I'm pretty
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: sure Soldier Field a lot of players complain about. That's
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: the two that I've heard the most about.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: But Soldier Field is natural grass, so yeah, that's not
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: that's not the one. I was saying. Soldier is natural grass, Yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: but I mean they natural grass n RG. I mean
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: that's got a roof on it. They got at diyk
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: And Park they got natural grass too. The reason they
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: couldn't do the National grass at the Ranger stage is
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: because they built that stadium so low and they you
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: literally come in. When you come in the concourse, you're
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: on the third or fourth level, so you have to
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: go down quite a bit to go to the field,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: whereas at at Dyking Park, you know, you walk in,
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: you're pretty much the concourse. Yeah, you go down a
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: little bit towards the field, but it's not nearly as
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: far down there. And they do they open that roof
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: and they do a great job. But I was fascinated
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: to watch how they did that. They brought in the
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: red lights at Dallas Stadium and grew that thing the
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: entire surface and it was beautiful. So they've proven it
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: can be done and it can be maintained. But like
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: you said, to your point, Jerry's just too cheap to
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: do that on a weekly basis, I guess.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: So.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: George Kittle said NFL teams could play on grass fields
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: if the owners really cared. That's that was the gist
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: of his statement that he made, and this was back
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: in June Yeah. I got confused about Soldier Fields because
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Katle Williams posted about it and I was like, oh,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I didn't think the Bears had artificial turf. They don't.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: He was just posting about it. But anyway, but.
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: They may be playing in Indiana ver soon anyway, which
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: is stupid.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: That's that's a whole other topic of conversation.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: The Indiana Bears that I hate that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: That's so it's like one thing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: I would go ahead and just play Wisconsin at that point.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: Sure, sure, but you know the Rangers are the which
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: they're the Texas Range. It's really the Cowboys that have
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: the misnomer of being the Dallas Cowboys that play in Arlington.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: The Los Angeles Angels that play in Anaheim, right, those
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: are those all aren't as bad because at least they're
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: in the same state, right Gerry or ham is it Hammond?
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: Indiana?
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I think is where the.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Jets and the Giants. It's like New York. Did they
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: play in New Jersey.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I think everybody's just used to that because it's pretty
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: much always been that way, right.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: Because the meadowlands, Yeah, exactly, it was just but it's
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: still the first time I went to New York was
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: to see Texa, A and M play Florida State, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: I didn't realize how much of the cab ride was
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: going to take to get me to New Jersey. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: it's like, ye under the tunnel and you know the
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: traffic of New York City. And it was a you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: first Monday. It was like Labor Day weekend, I guess.
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: And it was a kickoff class. So I just learned
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: a lot about Hey, it's not even in the state
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: of New York or certainly not the city of New York.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, parking's expensive enough here at football games. I don't
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: want to have to mess off anything.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: But you know what I was thinking when we're talking
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: about grass, is like, thank god it's the Agricultural Mechanical School.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: They're never going to not have grass either.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: If they did, it would be a really.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Because I do remember when they had the turf and
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: it was just it was it just was so bad
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: for the ag school to have artificial turf, and they
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: had turf a long time and so when they redid it, Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: and I don't think you could ever go back, nor
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: would they want to.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we literally have a turf management program.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Correct, Hey, we get them at the golf course all
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: the time, they go through turf management, they come out
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: there and they intern with us, and so yeah, literally
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: that's a big deal over Texas A and M.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very glad that that's not how it is
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: anymore with the artificial turf. That's a that would be
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: a bad look for us. And it's just it's outdoor
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: sports are meant to be played on grass, like that's
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: just Yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: I want to say the last turf game they played
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: was nineteen ninety five against Texas and they lost that game,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: and that was the last game of the Southwest Conference.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: That was actually technically it wasn't the last game ever
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: in the Southwest Conference. Rice in Houston played later that
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: day as the last game of Southwest Conference history. But
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: ninety six, first year of the Big Twelve, they went
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: to natural grass and it's been natural grass ever since.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Really good move. Yeah, no doubts nineteen nineties or not.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: Nineteen nineties Big Twelve. Texas A and M didn't always
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: make the best decisions, but that was what we had to.
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: Be careful when we're talking about grass and athletics anymore. Right,
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: we were actually we're talking about bermood. It's iff not
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: the other stuff.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: We're talking about grass that you walk.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: On right and play on and cut it out.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: That's all you do with it.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: You just walked on exactly right.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Man. That's a that's a whole nother rabbit hole we
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: could go down. Oh yeah, all right, Well, let's time
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back in Chip Howard Sports Talk here on a
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  Speaker 5: Monday evening, Caleb Rapley here filling him with Rusty bursting
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  Speaker 5: alongside me here in the studio, filling in for Chip.
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  Speaker 5: He's gone. He won't be back till probably August. We're
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  Speaker 6: Without a fishing or hiking or something like that. Always
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  Speaker 5: Yep, So Rusty, you wanted to talk a little about
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: a little bit about some autograph stories.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I saw this today and it was one
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: of the more interesting autograph stories that I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 6: You probably heard a guy named Michael Jordan.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Is that that guy that played for the Washington Wizards.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, he played for the Wizards for a brief time.
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  Speaker 6: He actually played for the White Sox too, or the
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  Speaker 6: White Sox. Yeah. So you want to take a guess
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: at when Michael Jordan or what Michael Jordan might have
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: signed as his first autograph? Just first autograph, Yeah, first autograph.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go with basketball.
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  Speaker 6: That is the obvious choice, right, Actually, the first known
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: autograph Michael Jordan signed was in nineteen seventy five the
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: North Carolina Dixie Youth Baseball State Tournament program. Baseball Okay, yep,
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Baseball was his first love.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Jordan was twelve years old when he signed it. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: So here's the story. Twelve Yeah, and he was playing
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: in the Dixie Youth Baseball State Tournament and his hometown
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: was Cape Fear, which is about a four hour drive
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: from where the tournament was in King's Mountain. So Jordan
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: and another friend stayed with a host family and they
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: had a great time with Frank and Nina Mitcham and
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: at the end of the tournament, which Michael Jordan's team
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: almost won, they asked for Michael Jordan and his friend Reggie.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: Let's see, I can't find Reggie's last name, but anyway,
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: so Michael Jordan and Reggie signed the tournament program and
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: gave it to the family. Recently, that program was sold
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: for thirty five thousand, two hundred and fifty dollars over bution,
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: so they kept it from nineteen seventy five. I mean,
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: that's a long time, fifty years to keep that, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: it's the first autograph that Michael Jordan ever signed. Just
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: a kind of cool little story about, you know, Michael Jordan,
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: his first love playing baseball and him signing it to
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: a family, and this going for thirty five thousand dollars.
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: So I paid off to keep that thing. For sure.
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I want to know how they authenticated that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: That is a very good question.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Do you think his autograph looks the same when he's.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: Probably not when he was twelve. Its probably has changed
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: over time. He's probably very you know, as a twelve
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: year old, you know, I used to practice my autograph
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: just in case, and it was very clear, you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: And I've got several autographs in the past, and I'm
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: not a big autograph person. I know you're not a
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: big autograph person too, But there is a couple stories
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: that I have to share, two stories that mean a
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: lot to me from an autograph standpoint. So I grew
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: up in Dallasport Worth, but I was born in Mississippi
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: at Bluxi in Bloxi at Keesler Air Force Space, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: so I've always had this place in my heart for
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: Walter Payton, Mississippi guy Jackson State Mississippi, and he plays
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: on some Terrible Terrible Bears teams. But mid eighties, the
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: Cowboys were going down, the Bears were coming up. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: became a big Bears fan, and of course loved Walter Payton.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: So flashed forward to nineteen ninety six. Like I talked
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: about earlier, my son was born nineteen ninety six and
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: by the time he turned he's about to turn one.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: His mama and I wanted to get him something that
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: would be very, very meaningful for forever. So we named
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: him Peyton after Walter Payton with an A. And so
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: I contacted Walter Payton's office is before he got sick
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: of or any any known you know, sickness at all,
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: talked to his secretary, told him about you know, I've
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: been a lifelong Walter Payton fan because you know he's
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: from Mississippi. I'm Mississippi. I grew up in Dallas for Worth.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I was there at eighty five when the Bears just
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: killed the Cowboys, and I have my bears jacking on.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: And so she's like, oh, yeah, we can, We'll do that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: We'll it will get one order for you. It's like
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: three hundred dollars. It's ninety nine to then. Yeah, And
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: so a couple of weeks later she calls me back.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: She goes, I know your son's birthday is getting closer
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: and closer. We don't have any jerseys in stock. Would
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: you accept the jersey that Walter had actually worn in
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: a game? And I said would I? Yeah, I definitely
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: would accept that. And he goes, well, it's just she said,
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: it will just be the same price. And what do
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: you want to say on the jersey? Do you want
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: to just say Walter Payton? And I said no, I
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: want it to say to Peyton from Sweetness in Walter Payton.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: And she calls me back the next day and she says, well,
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: Walter doesn't really know if you know that if he
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: signs to Peyton, the value goes totally down. I said,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: this jersey is never going to be sold. So now
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: next week the jersey arrives. And also rolled up in
• 35:04
  Speaker 6: the jersey is an autographed picture of Walter playing and
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: it says, too, Rusty, thanks for being a fan all
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: these years, Walter Payton and I have that up in
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: my office at Miremont. And then the other one is
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: the I've gotten to be really close to a lot
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: of Texas A and M basketball players through the years.
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: I covered A and M basketball for many, many years,
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: the dark days of Tony Baroni and Melvin Watkins. And
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: so this one kid from Dallas and I got really close.
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: His name is a Claw, And I got really close
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: to AC's mom and dad, and we would talk. In
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: every single home game, I'd go talk to AC's mom
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: and dad, and she knew that I was a big
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: baseball fan. And you might know that Ernie Banks grew
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: up and down. So A C. Law is related to
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: Ernie Banks, really and yeah, very very seldom did people know.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: And it was his mom mom's side of the family.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: He was a great great uncle or whatever. And obviously
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: Ernie Banks has passed away since then, but I have
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: a ball in my office that she gave me on
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: the A c lost senior day that said, too rusty,
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: let's play two Ernie Banks.
• 36:26
  Speaker 9: Wow.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: And so those two it's ironic that they're both Chicago
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: folks know for no particular reason. Yeah, but I loved
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: Ernie Banks, and again he was a Dallas guy. Oh
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: mister Cub.
• 36:39
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: And so because I loved Walter Payton. I also kind
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: of up in WGN. You can either watch the Braves
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: on WTVS or you can watch the Cubs on w
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: GN pretty much, and on summer days, if you're gonna
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: watch baseball Durn during the daytime, it's gonna be the Cubs,
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: right sure. And then so I watched so many of
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: those games, learn so much about the Cubs, and so
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: they were kind of my national ague team. And so, again,
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: not a big autograph guy, but those two meet a
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: lot to me.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my stories aren't near as cool as yours. I've got.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I think I only have one or two autograph items
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: that I still have, and one of them was from
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: like literally two three months ago or four whenever that
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: Texas series was Basi. So that Sunday, after we'd won
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: the first two games, it was super rainy that Sunday.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Obviously the game didn't end up getting played.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: Yeah, watching out the parking lot for about four hours.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: So I got there at nine thirty when the gates opened. Yep,
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: nine thirty am when the gates opened originally because it
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: was supposed to start at eleven, right, So there's a
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: big group of US students and a few you know,
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: former students not very far removed that hang out in
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: two of three in section two O three. It's kind
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: of like the unofficial student section kind of. But anyway,
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: so we hang out there every game. We always get
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: there an hour and a half for the game starts
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: at least when the gates open, if not, you know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: hours before that. And for Texas obviously sure we got
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: there hours before that. So we get there, we hang out.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: They announced the games getting pushed back. The radio guys
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: were already there to call the game. Andrew Monico and
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: his color guy for that series was Hayden Shot. Okay,
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: so we're just hanging out and we're like, you know what,
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: while we're here, let's try to get some autographs because
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: Mike Elko was there as well. Okay, so we have
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: a friend who wears a hot dog costumed every game.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: He goes and gets his hot dogs signed by Mike Elcho.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: I've seen that guy, Yeah, yeah, yeah. He gets interviewed
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: by kBT X right after it. So then and then
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: we go over to the radio booth and we start
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: throwing stuff at Hayden Shot for him to sign. So
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: I got I have a baseball and a hat that's
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: signed by Hayden Shot.
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: Well that's pretty cool.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: That's not near as cool as Walter Payton and Ernie Banks.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: But so that's my one autograph story.
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: My first year out of college, I was down. I
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: was a sports show to the Galston Ellen News and
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: my editor sends me up to the Astrodome to cover
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: the Astros and the Dodgers on Galveston Night at the Astrodome, right,
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: so you know it's like a community night, sure, you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: and get a bunch of people and get special discounts. Well,
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: he says, as long as you're going to go up
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: there and write a little news story of betting Galston Night,
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: you might as well get up there early and see
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: if you can do a feature story on one of
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: the players. Well, they're playing the Dodgers and this is
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: nineteen ninety and if you remember, you don't remember, but
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: you've seen the highlights. Yeah, Kirk Gibson the year before
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: against the A's comes off the bench with a wound,
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: I mean, barely can walk. Hits the home run and
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: he's circling the base pass and pumping his arms.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: One of the coolest sports moments, for sure.
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: Cool.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: So I call up there a day in advance and
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: I check with the media relations folks and everything. It's like,
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: what I got to do to interview one of the
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: players in the field, And so get there really early.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: They're taking VP tomorrow, so just wait till they finished
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: with VP, asking one of the guys if he can get,
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: you know, a few minutes, And so I was just
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: gonna do a kind of a generic story and ask
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: some of his teammates about what that moment was right about.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: So he's coming out of the cage and I say
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: to him, and again, this is my first major league
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: game to ever cover, and I asked him, I said,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: mister Gibson, do you have a few minutes to talk about?
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: You know, the home run last year? In the World Series.
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: And he looks me and he's a huge guy, play
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: tied end at Michigan State, right, huge guy, and he
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: looks down at me. He goes and I can't repeat
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: what he said, who the blank are you? And where
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: the blank is Galveston and what the blank is? And
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: he starts screaming at me really like on the field,
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: like you want to talk to me, you get your
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: you know, eyes dotted and all this stuff. And so
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: I want to disappear into the turf of the astronom
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: right because I've got all these players looking at me.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: What's early it's sir, like late April, early May. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: Gibson's off to a terrible start, like he's hitting like
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: one twenty three.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Have something to do with that.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe that's serious.
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: Think well.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: One of the ASTRAS players at that time got named
• 41:24
  Speaker 6: Casey Cant Casey Kandell, who was a utility guy, really
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: good utility guy. I feel this arm come around my
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: shoulder and he puts his arm and I'd like, I said,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: I want to cry. I want to disappear into the turf.
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: And he puts his arm around me and he goes, hey,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: you want a good story about a guy who's hitting
• 41:43
  Speaker 6: over three hundred. Do you want to hit a story
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: about a guy who's hitting a buck twenty three? And
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: he yells at Gibson, and Gibson kind of, you know,
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: brushes him off, and so I proceed to write the
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: greatest story about Casey Kandell ever go. And later I
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: tell that story at at KLAF up in Dallas, and
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: they used to have a sports radio show. So I'm
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: telling the story to their producer and he goes, oh,
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: my gosh, I've got a Kirk Gibson story. Used to
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: be when the visiting teams would play the Rangers, they'd
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: stay right across the street from Arleson Stadium in that
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: hotel that they'd have torn down. Now, Well, he goes
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: out there. It's you know, eleven Am. Gibson's out in
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: the pool. He's got you know, seven o'clock game that night.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: He's just chilling reading the newspaper. And he walks up
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: to him and says, hey, mister Gibson, if you don't
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: want to sign, I understand, but i've got we've got
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: a charitable auction coming up, and so I've got two
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: baseball's here. If you wouldn't mind, and I understand if
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: you if you don't, well, Gibson takes the balls and
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: he goes, ah, sure, and he gets him the sharpie
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: and he starts like he's about to sign and he
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: throws both of the baseballs into the swimming pool.
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: And my friends says like he was just just a
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: turn yeah, for no reason. And again he was in
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: the media, so he understood. He's like, if you don't
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: want to sign this, I get it.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: But then he's like, yeah, I'll take it. And it's
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: just like, oh.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Man, I feel like you hear a lot. You don't
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: really hear those kind of stories about athletes anymore, which
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: is good, which is good. It's interesting. I feel like
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: there were a lot more stronger personality types.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: Well, but I tell that Walter Payton story is so
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: great when your hero turns out to be this great
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: dude and then you think you're like, oh man, I
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: get to talk to this guy who I watched this
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: heroic moment. I'm not a Dodgers fan, but just that
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: moment was iconic, absolutely, and so I was like, I
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: get a chance. I was really excited about possibly talking
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: and it was just gonna be like a couple of
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: comments and then I was going to ask his teammates
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: about it. So it wasn't gonna be so in depth interview.
• 43:48
  Speaker 6: It was like, give me two, give me two soundbites.
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Sure, but no, no, that is it's interesting how some
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: athletes and not just athletes, some people and.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: It makes you appreciate that the cal Ripkins who would
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: stand over there forever and ever, and you know, they
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: would just sign and sign and sign. Yeah, exactly. There's
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: a lot of guys that you know, they they understand
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: their role, and there's a lot of guys. If you
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: can get a chance to take your kids or grandkids
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: to spring training in Arizona and Florida, it's a great
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: setting because the players are so much more laid back
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: and a lot of times the starters they're not even
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: gonna play right, so they don't mind, you know, interacting
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: with the fans. It's used to be better than it
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: is now. But still if you want to give you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: a kid, a special trip, go to a go to
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: spring training for three or four days.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and while you're in Tampa to stick around
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: for a few months and you might hear sec media
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: days all in full.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: Circle, Full circle. I like it.
• 44:53
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  Speaker 9: cranks his ten toll run of the season and makes
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  Speaker 8: Last chance ever by the Texas Rangers, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 8: enough to get the series win against an above five
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to Chip Howard's sports stalk Here on the
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  Speaker 5: And anytime me or Rusty is in the studio, there's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be some MLB talked about. Absolutely, So Ao West Race,
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  Speaker 5: like we said earlier, has continued to just nobody can
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: pull away. But we've had some some prospects debut for
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: both the Rangers and the Astros over the last week.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Christian Curtis, I think, is the guy that you were
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: wanting to mention.
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: Actually, Christian, uh one other thing with the Rangers. I
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  Speaker 6: want to mention Camp Colly camp Collie, who got called
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: up about two weeks ago as playing for the Rangers.
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  Speaker 6: Local connection here because he is the nephew of Longtimes
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  Speaker 6: twelfth Man Productions, the head of twelve Man Productions, Andy Richardson,
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  Speaker 6: So it's really cool and Cam in his first game
• 49:05
  Speaker 6: he had a triple and he's got a two fifty
• 49:08
  Speaker 6: bat and average. He is unbelievably fast. He hadn't gotten
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: the stolen base yet, but I can't wait to see him.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: If he can get on base, I mean he can
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: turn it, you know, a walk or a single, intoto
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: a double real quickly.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: But local connection I wanted to mention here is Christian Curtis.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: And maybe Aggie baseball fans don't remember that name, but
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: Christian Curtis grew up in Beaumont, played at Portinitch's Groves
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: and came to A and M and was part of
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: the A and M. The twenty twenty two baseball season.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: He played in five games for the Aggies, had a
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: two to zero record and was really off to a
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: fantastic start before he had to have season engine ending surgery.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: He transferred into Arizona State and had a very rough
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: go at it coming back from surgery. I think as
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Era was over seven and at Arizona State, but everybody
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: knew that he had great stuff. So the Pirates drafted
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: him and last Saturday, Christian Curtis made his debut against
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: the Indians in Cleveland, and he went five Indians gave
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: up two hits, no runs, and struck out four. The
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: cool thing about this is that one of my very
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: good friends, former Texas A and M offensive lineman Seth McKinney,
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: Christian Curtis is his future son in law because when
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: he was at A and M, he met SE's oldest
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: daughter at A and M, and so that actually got
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: engaged at Miremont and kind of helped set that up.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: And then Christians that played with Seth at our member
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: guest a couple of times. Great guy, So much fun
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: to see that. And Seth and his wife and Christian's
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: family were all there to see that, and obviously, says
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: daughter Christians fiance, So cool moment there.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the agging network is a crazy thing even if
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  Speaker 5: you didn't graduate, if you were here at all.
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's still, you know, in the in the offseason,
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: he's still going to go back and he's going to
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: finish his his degree and get his ring from Texas
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: A and M. Because still still means a lot too.
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, he's definitely got a bright
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: future ahead of him.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: And well again they've got some they've got some pitching now.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: They've never yeah over the last few years. The pitching
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: has definitely not been the problem for them. They get
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: some hitters in there, they could be scary the Astros
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: or go ahead. So the Astros had a prospect debut
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  Speaker 5: recently as well. Called up for this past series against
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: the Orioles was Lucas Spence, who I think was one
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: of their top prospects. I know he wasn't number one,
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: but he's up there. Spence. I think he's twenty three
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: years old out of a very small college s i
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: u e. Southern Southern Illinois Edwardsville, so not a big
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: name at all. I don't think he was a very
• 51:55
  Speaker 5: high draft pick, but made his debut, played in all
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  Speaker 5: three games. I think he's started in two of them,
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  Speaker 5: went three for eleven, So solid debut for Lucas Spence.
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  Speaker 5: And he's a left handed outfielder, which is what the
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: Astros always need. So it'd be really nice if we
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: could have a homegrown one start contributing, but excited to
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: see where his career goes. And he's not one of
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: those guys who's like a career minor leaguer. He's only
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: been in the minors for three seasons, only one really
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: full season last year one hundred and sixteen games across
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: three levels, but he was doing pretty solid at Double
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: A TRIPLEA. This year called up to the big squad
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: and the Astros are always looking for outfield help, so
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: I think he's definitely got a pretty good window of
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: opportunity here.
• 52:40
  Speaker 6: I know we're closing out on time, but let me make it.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: Throw out Jim Bowden today in the Athletic throughout five
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  Speaker 6: trade ideas. Two of them are one to throw out
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  Speaker 6: as one involves Rangers, and I'd love to see this.
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  Speaker 6: They flirted with this guy for so long, Luise Rise,
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: who has just amazing batt and average guys power, no speed,
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: but guys, he's does an amazing thing. I mean, he
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: just puts the ball in play. The Rangers need somebody
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: like that. Bowden says. The Rangers would send Dalton Pence,
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  Speaker 6: a left handed pitcher who's in double A very good prospect,
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: but not top of the line, and then Yo fran
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: Castillo infielder. I would love to see the Rangers do
• 53:19
  Speaker 6: that they if they're gonna have any serious push towards
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: the playoffs, that would be fantastic. One other one that
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: he recommended Cubs would receive Michael Waka from the Royals.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: Michael Waker, former Texas A and M star who made
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: the All Star Game this year, pitch well in the
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: one inning. The Royals would receive Matt Shaw infielder Kevin
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: Alcantrera outfielder. Both very good young prospects for the Cubs,
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: but not good enough to crack the Cubs lineup this year.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: So I'd love to see thirty five year old Michael
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: Wauka get a chance at one more playoff. Maybe that's
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: too soon to say, because the way he's pitching this year,
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: certainly he could pitch down the road as well.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely. The Rangers getting Luisa Riya's would be a big
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: blow to Astros fans like myself. I know we've been
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: in rumors to get him as well.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Well, and the Rangers have flirted with him so many years.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: The other one that concerns me is this according to Bowden,
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: and his number one trade suggestion would be see the
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: Mariners receive Casey Smitt infielder, outfielder d h and Eric
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: Miller left handed pitcher. The Giants received George Kirby, right
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: handed pitcher.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: That would be interesting.
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: Kirby is a very good pitcher. Yeah, but right now
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: he's the sixth man and a five man rotation, and
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: Casey Schmidt he's having a career year with the Giants
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: and he's already set like career highs and homers, RBI's,
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: and doubles this year. That would give them some pop.
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: I just assumed that would not happen, but hey, yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: Just because the Mariners are not very good at getting hitters.
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: No, they're not that play. That's a tough hitting ballpark.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Giants would probably be pretty reluctant
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: to let him go. So yeah, Luisa Riats is kind
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: of like the Josh Bell for the Astros. It seems
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: like every season doesn't matter where Josh Bell is. Every
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: year they're like, oh, they're probably going to trade for
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: Josh Bell and it never happens.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: Well, but we'll we don't want of these teams. Has
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: any hope that would be a great addition.
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Rangers more so than the Astros.
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, Dana Brown has said that they're going to
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: they're not going to sell with the deadline, and he
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: said that like two months ago. So it's the Rangers.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: I hope that They're going to get Cody Bradford here
• 55:43
  Speaker 6: back pretty soon. Cody Bradford's been on the injured list
• 55:46
  Speaker 6: for almost two years. Jordan Montgomery had had a rehab
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: over the weekend. He was terrible, but yeah, he's getting
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: stronger and stronger I think. I mean, he gave up
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: like five He was supposed to go seventy five pitches.
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: The only last fifty three. But again, this is spring
• 56:02
  Speaker 6: training for him and where he is in the comeback.
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: Cody Bradford had a much stronger performance. If he can
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: be pulled out of the bullpen, that answers a lot
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: of questions. Because Cody Bradford for two innings or one
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: inning is that answers their relief question and again their
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: hope is they get some starting pitching back. Who knows,
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: no one's counting on Corey Seeger doing anything. Again.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Well, that's all the time we have today, Rusty, thanks
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: for joining us.
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  Speaker 6: You bet enjoy it.
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