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The Late Debate | 8 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Late Debates.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: tonight with Joe Hildebrand and Daneka Di Georgio.
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  Speaker 1: Daneka, how are you feeling.
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  Speaker 3: I'm great, Thank you. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm wonderful you Joe very Bollish, I bet you are.
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  Speaker 2: What pattened overnight, speaking of which, we are standing by
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  Speaker 2: for an update from the US War Secretary Pete Hegseth
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  Speaker 2: on what's to come now that there is a two
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  Speaker 2: week ceasefire and around of course, that came after Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump threatened that a whole civilization will die. Will bring
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  Speaker 2: that to you live as soon as it happens. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: a former top ranking legal officer in the Defense Force
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  Speaker 2: says that the case against Ben Robert Smith is doomed
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  Speaker 2: to fail. That's on the front of tomorrow's Daily Telegraph.
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  Speaker 2: And the pizza delivery driver who scored a fifty seven
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars tip for buying a customer a few bottles
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  Speaker 2: of diet coke. Hopefully that can restore a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of your faith in humanity. But first, as we stand
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  Speaker 2: by to hear from Pete Heakesath as I said, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about the fuel crisis.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, the biggest news.
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  Speaker 2: In the world apart from the war itself, and people
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  Speaker 2: are now taking to public transport, particularly in Victoria and
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  Speaker 2: Tasmania where they've made it free because they want to
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  Speaker 2: get people off the road to conserve fuel get on
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  Speaker 2: the bus or the train instead.
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  Speaker 1: But to this influx of.
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  Speaker 2: People using public transport is apparently annoying regular users of
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  Speaker 2: public transport. Yes, if you go online now, it's replete
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  Speaker 2: with people complaining that there are too many members of
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  Speaker 2: the proletariat getting their noses involved with these buses.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me why every single city train I've been on
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  Speaker 4: in the past week has been packed to the fucking brand.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody gets on literally sat on the side of my leg.
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  Speaker 4: I had my bag here where the window is, so
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of sitting in the middle. There was
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  Speaker 4: no other seat on the train, so they had every
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  Speaker 4: right to sit there. But they didn't say, excuse me,
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  Speaker 4: can happily see here? They just sat right on my leg.
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  Speaker 5: He knows how to act like someone teach these people
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  Speaker 5: that are usually driving how to act on public transport
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  Speaker 5: like they need some.
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  Speaker 2: Etiquette or no people are using the public transport.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't this terrible?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I get over it. How gracious can people be?
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  Speaker 2: People are trying to do their bit for the country
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  Speaker 2: and save fuel, and we've got people's plays.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, too many people are the.
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  Speaker 3: True Oh give me a break.
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  Speaker 6: Seriously, as long as people are ensuring that pregnant women
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  Speaker 6: and the elderly are sitting down and they're giving up
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  Speaker 6: their seats for that cohort, then the rest of everyone
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  Speaker 6: else can just shut up and get on with it.
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  Speaker 6: What a bunch of absolute wins. It's not like this
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  Speaker 6: is going to be a long term thing where every
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  Speaker 6: man and their dog are looking to catch public transport.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 6: Eventually, we hope that this will be over at some
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  Speaker 6: point and everyone can go back to living their lives
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  Speaker 6: normally taking their cars filling up with fuel. But in
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  Speaker 6: the interim, just get on with it for goodness sake,
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  Speaker 6: have basic etiquette. Just it just drives me nuts.
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  Speaker 7: Joe, do you know what, I did not have this
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  Speaker 7: on my bing go card. I thought it would be
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  Speaker 7: one of those that, you know, Melbourne in a city
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  Speaker 7: socialist would be part of that ven diagram that came
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  Speaker 7: out in COVID that said that actually the COVID lockdowns
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  Speaker 7: were wonderful because they reduced our carbon emissions. So I
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  Speaker 7: thought that these people would be saying, oh, this fuel
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  Speaker 7: crisis is great because it will mean that everyone uses
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  Speaker 7: public transport and we're not emitting so many pollutants into
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  Speaker 7: the atmosphere. And yet somehow they found a whole new
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  Speaker 7: way to be obnoxious that I hadn't even considered, and
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  Speaker 7: just the most obnoxiously entitled selfish that you could possibly be.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, imagine, I mean, if these guys been to Japan,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, maybe they've got the guys with little white
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  Speaker 7: gloves who like get in there and just squeeze you
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  Speaker 7: want to.
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  Speaker 2: But they they soon forgotten that, you know, public transport,
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  Speaker 2: that public is a rather integral word in that equation,
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  Speaker 2: is it not.
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  Speaker 1: It is there for the use of the public. And
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  Speaker 1: what really annoys me.
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  Speaker 2: And remember when we used to do the Sunday Showdown
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  Speaker 2: every sub stage and indeed, yeah, correct, let's cross now
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  Speaker 2: to hate Haigsith live from the USC will be speaking
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  Speaker 2: alongside the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
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  Speaker 2: Dan Kahan.
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  Speaker 8: Iran has been a threat to the United States and
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  Speaker 8: the Free world for forty seven years, chance of death
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  Speaker 8: to America, targeting our people, killing Americans, lying and blackmailing
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  Speaker 8: their way toward a nuclear weapon. So they thought no longer,
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  Speaker 8: not on our watch. Other presidents mark time and kick
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  Speaker 8: the can down the road. President Trump made history, from
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  Speaker 8: the strike that took out Kasum Sulimani, to tearing up
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  Speaker 8: the disastrous Obama Iran Deal, to the precision campaign that
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  Speaker 8: obliterated Iran's nuclear sites in Operation Midnight Hammer, to the
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  Speaker 8: decisive military victory.
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  Speaker 3: We just achieved in Operation Fury.
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  Speaker 8: No other president has shown the courage and resolve of
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  Speaker 8: this commander in chief. President Trump forged this moment. Iran
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  Speaker 8: begged for this ceasefire, and we all know it as
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  Speaker 8: a president truth. This morning a big day for world peace.
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  Speaker 8: Iran wants it to happen. They've had enough. Operation Epic
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  Speaker 8: Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield,
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  Speaker 8: A capital v military victory by any measure. Epic Fury
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  Speaker 8: decimated Iran's military and rendered it combat ineffective for years
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  Speaker 8: to come. You see, in less than forty days, one
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  Speaker 8: of our combatant commands, Central Command, sent Colm using less
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  Speaker 8: than ten percent of America's total combat power dismantled. One
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  Speaker 8: of the world's largest militaries, the world's leading state sponsor
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  Speaker 8: of terrorism, proved utterly incapable of defending itself, its people,
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  Speaker 8: or its territory. We untied just a fraction of our strength,
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  Speaker 8: and Iran suffered a devastating military defeat. Together with our
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  Speaker 8: Israeli partners, America's military achieved every single objective on plan,
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  Speaker 8: on schedule exactly is laid out from day one. Iran's
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  Speaker 8: navy is at the bottom of the sea, whether it's
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  Speaker 8: the Solomony Class, their Frigate class, their prized drone, aircraft carriers, submarines,
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  Speaker 8: mind layers sunk. Iran's air force has been wiped out.
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  Speaker 8: Iran no longer has an air defense any sort of
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  Speaker 8: a comprehensive air defense system. We own their skies. Their
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  Speaker 8: missile program is functionally destroyed. Launchers, production facilities, and existing
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  Speaker 8: stockpiles depleted and decimated and almost completely ineffective. Iran shot
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  Speaker 8: hundreds and hundreds of missiles and attack one way attack drones.
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  Speaker 3: At our aircraft carrier.
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  Speaker 8: They were obsessed with it, and they never got even close.
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  Speaker 8: Every single one of those shots easily shot down miles
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  Speaker 8: and miles away from the ABE linken. They were blowing
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  Speaker 8: AMMO into fantasyland. Contrasts that with most significantly. In last
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  Speaker 8: night's wave of more than eight hundred strikes, we finished
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  Speaker 8: completely destroying Iran's defense industrial base, a core pillar of
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  Speaker 8: our mission objective. What little they have left buried in
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  Speaker 8: bunkers is all they will have. They can still shoot.
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  Speaker 8: We know that their command and control is so decimated
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  Speaker 8: they can't really talk and coordinate, so they still may
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  Speaker 8: shoot here and there, but that would be very, very unwise.
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  Speaker 8: But they can no longer build missiles, build rockets, build launchers,
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  Speaker 8: or build UAVs. Their factories have been raised to the ground,
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  Speaker 8: set back in historic fashion. You see, had Iran refused
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  Speaker 8: our terms, the next targets would have been their power plants,
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  Speaker 8: their bridges, and oil and energy infrastructure, targets they could
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  Speaker 8: not defend and could not realistically rebuild. It would have
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  Speaker 8: taken them decades, and we were locked and loaded.
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  Speaker 3: They couldn't defend against it.
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  Speaker 8: President Trump had the power to cripple Iran's entire economy
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  Speaker 8: in minutes, but he choose, He chose mercy. He spared
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  Speaker 8: those targets because Iran accepted the ceasefire under overwhelming pressure.
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  Speaker 8: The new Iranian regime understood that a deal was far
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  Speaker 8: better than the fate that awaited them. This new regime
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  Speaker 8: just happened to look at what hap to their predecessors.
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  Speaker 8: Their top leadership was systematically eliminated. The previous Iranian Supreme
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  Speaker 8: Leader dead, the Supreme National Security Council Secretary dead, the
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  Speaker 8: Supreme Leader Office advisor dead, the Supreme Leader Military Office
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  Speaker 8: chief dead, the Defense Minister no longer with us, the
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  Speaker 8: IRGC commander dead, the Armed Forces General Staff commander dead,
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  Speaker 8: the Intelligence minister dead, the IERGC Navy commander no longer here,
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  Speaker 8: the IRGC Intel chief dead.
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  Speaker 3: I skipped over.
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  Speaker 8: A bunch, and I could go on and on and
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  Speaker 8: on to include the new so called new Supreme Leader.
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  Speaker 3: Wounded and disfigured.
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  Speaker 8: This new regime was out of options and out of time,
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  Speaker 8: so they cut a deal. They know this agreement means
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  Speaker 8: that they will never ever possess a nuclear weapon. Under
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  Speaker 8: the terms, any nuclear material they should have will be removed.
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  Speaker 8: Any material excuse me, they should not have will be
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  Speaker 8: removed right now. Their dust is deeply buried and watched
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  Speaker 8: twenty four to seven overhead. The President has been clear
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  Speaker 8: from the beginning there will be no Iranian nuclear weapons period,
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  Speaker 8: full stop. Other presidents said it, President Trump did it.
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  Speaker 8: Operation Epic Fury less than six weeks clear, mission, decisive action,
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  Speaker 8: overwhelming firepower. America first, a historic battlefield victory. For decades,
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  Speaker 8: Iran killed Americans with roadside bombs in Iraq, using cowardly
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  Speaker 8: proxies to do their dirty work while they hid safely
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  Speaker 8: in Tehran. They struck our embassies with car bombs and
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  Speaker 8: attacked from the sh shadows, never daring to face us
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  Speaker 8: toe to toe. They thought they could bleed America with impunity.
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  Speaker 8: Well they just learned the hard way what happens when
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  Speaker 8: you try to fight us directly. And even when they
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  Speaker 8: got lucky one time in forty days and down two
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  Speaker 8: of our pilots, they couldn't hold them. In a daring
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  Speaker 8: fourteen hour rescue operation, seven hours in daylight and seven
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  Speaker 8: hours of night, both pilots were recovered safely, not once,
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  Speaker 8: but twice. A daylight thunder run right up the middle
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  Speaker 8: of their country, boots on the ground, a midnight raid
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  Speaker 8: right up the middle of their country, boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 8: Zero American casualties, the Iranians humiliated and demoralized. We control
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  Speaker 8: their fate, not the other way around. That's why they
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  Speaker 8: came to the table. Iran's defeat is America's retribution for
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  Speaker 8: every American loss to Iranian terror, especially those brave troops
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  Speaker 8: killed by Iranian made roadside bombs in Iraq that my
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  Speaker 8: generation knows so well, and for the suffering their regime
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  Speaker 8: has inflicted around the world. Now we have a chance
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  Speaker 8: at real peace and a real deal. The War Department
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  Speaker 8: four now four now has done its part. We stand
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  Speaker 8: ready in the background to ensure Iran upholds every reasonable term.
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  Speaker 8: And as everyone knows, nobody makes a better deal than
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  Speaker 8: President Trump.
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  Speaker 3: To the warriors of epic fury, I say.
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  Speaker 8: Well done. You're the backbone of our country. Your skill,
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  Speaker 8: your bravery, and sheer, guts and grit showed the world
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  Speaker 8: what America is all about. I'm proud of you. We're
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  Speaker 8: proud of you. President, proud of you. Well done. But
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  Speaker 8: stay vigilant and stay ready. To the families of our fallen,
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  Speaker 8: your sacrifice was in service of a historic cause, and
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  Speaker 8: we will always remember.
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  Speaker 3: Your heroes, our heroes. We will continue to honor them
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  Speaker 3: and to our Israeli allies.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you for being a brave, capable and willing ally
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  Speaker 8: on this battlefield. The rest of the world and the
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  Speaker 8: rest of our so called allies saw what real capabilities
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  Speaker 8: look like. They should take some notes. Our troops, our
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  Speaker 8: American warriors, deserve the credit for this day, but God
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  Speaker 8: deserves all the glory. Tens of thousands of sorties, refuelings
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  Speaker 8: and strikes carried out under the protection of divine providence,
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  Speaker 8: a massive effort with miraculous protection.
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  Speaker 3: Dude forty four, Bravo spoke for all of us. God
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  Speaker 3: is good.
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  Speaker 8: The Chairman will now provide an even deeper military detail
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  Speaker 8: on the historic success of Operation Epic Fury.
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  Speaker 9: This Chairman, thank you, Miss Victorian. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 9: thanks for being here. I want to start this morning
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  Speaker 9: by honoring the thirteen members of our American Joint Force
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  Speaker 9: who were killed in action thus far during this operation.
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  Speaker 9: Their sacrifice and that of their families is deeply important
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  Speaker 9: to us, and we were grateful. We are grateful for
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  Speaker 9: each of them and will continue to mourn their loss.
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  Speaker 9: Their names and their bravery will never be forgotten. On
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  Speaker 9: February twenty eighth, the President of the United States order
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  Speaker 9: the Joint Force to execute Operation Epic Fury with the
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  Speaker 9: direct direction to accomplish three distinct military objectives. Destroy Iran's
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  Speaker 9: ballistic missile and drone capabilities, destroy the Iranian Navy, and
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  Speaker 9: destroy their defense industrial base to ensure that Iran cannot
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  Speaker 9: reconstitute the ability to project power outside their borne. Over
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  Speaker 9: the course of thirty eight days of major combat operation,
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  Speaker 9: the Joint Force achieved the military objectives as defined by
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  Speaker 9: the President. We welcome the ongoing ceasefire, and as the
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  Speaker 9: Secretary said, we hope that Aaron chooses a lasting piece.
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  Speaker 9: But as Secretary Hegseth said, let us be clear, a
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  Speaker 9: CeaseFire's a pause, and the Joint Force remains ready if
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  Speaker 9: ordered or called upon to resume combat operations with the
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  Speaker 9: same speed and precision as we've demonstrated over the last
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  Speaker 9: thirty eight days, and we hope that that is not
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  Speaker 9: the case. I want to congratulate and thank the leadership
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  Speaker 9: today US Central Command, including the Commander, Admiral Brad Cooper,
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  Speaker 9: the Deputy Commander, Lieutenant General Kevin Lahey, the senior enlisted leader,
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  Speaker 9: Fleet Master Chief Compton, and every one of the component
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  Speaker 9: commander's senior enlisted leaders and especially the staff down at
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  Speaker 9: US Central Command who does not get called out for
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  Speaker 9: any of the credit at GRINDS twenty four to seven
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  Speaker 9: to help offer the options that we bring to the
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  Speaker 9: Secretary and the President. I also want to highlight the
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  Speaker 9: forces in the United States European Command under the command
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  Speaker 9: of Alexis Grinkowitch, who protected the western flank in support
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  Speaker 9: of SENCOM. And I want to thank our partners across
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  Speaker 9: the intelligence community. Our ability to see and understand what
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  Speaker 9: an adversary is doing help us to be as decisive
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  Speaker 9: as we must be on the battlefield, and that includes
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  Speaker 9: DA NSA, NNGA, the CIA, and the National Reconnaissance Office
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  Speaker 9: and others. I want to thank the other combat commands
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  Speaker 9: who have thus far contributed along the way to US
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  Speaker 9: Central Command. This includes Transcom, Stratcom, Spacecom, SOCOM, and Cybercom,
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  Speaker 9: all of whom poured all in in support of Sencom's efforts.
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  Speaker 9: And I want to thank, as the Secretary did, our
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  Speaker 9: golf partners who fought alongside each and every one of
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  Speaker 9: us every day, from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Baharain, Qatar,
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  Speaker 9: Kuwait and Jordan, all who joined us together to defend
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  Speaker 9: and protect our people and our assets, and who, if required,
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  Speaker 9: stand ready to do so again. And I want to
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  Speaker 9: thank my team at the Joint Staff who work literally
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  Speaker 9: around the clock in order to help me offer the
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  Speaker 9: options that I must with the associated risks to the Secretary.
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  Speaker 3: And to the President.
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  Speaker 9: They are the hardest working people that I know, and
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  Speaker 9: I am deeply grateful for their service. Most importantly, today,
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  Speaker 9: I want to thank America's members of the Joint Force
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  Speaker 9: who've poured everything that they can into Operation Epic Fury,
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  Speaker 9: and their families who've worked twenty four hours a day
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  Speaker 9: for thirty eight days. The Secretary and I could not
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  Speaker 9: be more proud of each and every one of you,
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  Speaker 9: and we deeply appreciate the support of the American people,
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  Speaker 9: who we know always have us in our thoughts in prayers,
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  Speaker 9: and we can feel this literally every single day. As
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  Speaker 9: the Secretary said, the United States has devastated the regime's
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  Speaker 9: ability to harm Americans and our interests for years to come.
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  Speaker 9: Since the beginning of major combat operations, the United States
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  Speaker 9: Joint Force has struck more than thirteen thousand targets, including
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  Speaker 9: in that thirteen thousand, more than four thousand dynamic targets
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  Speaker 9: that popped up on the battlefield and were immediately addressed.
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  Speaker 9: Thanks to the exceptional command and control system and intelligence
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  Speaker 9: acumen and agility of our joint force sent Coom Force
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  Speaker 9: has destroyed approximately eighty percent of Iran's air defense systems,
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  Speaker 9: striking more than fifteen hundred air defense targets, more than
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  Speaker 9: four hundred and fifty ballistic missile storage facilities, eight hundred
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  Speaker 9: one way attack drones, storage facilities. All of these systems
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  Speaker 9: are gone. We've devastated as commanded control and logistical networks,
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  Speaker 9: destroying more than two thousand commanded controlled nodes and degrading
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  Speaker 9: their ability to target US and friendly forces. It is,
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  Speaker 9: and we know this incredibly frustrating right now to be
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  Speaker 9: a lower level Iranian commander trying to fight your fight.
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  Speaker 9: As the secretary said, the Iranian Navy now lies mostly
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  Speaker 9: at the bottom of the Arabian Gulf, and we assess
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  Speaker 9: that we've sunk more than ninety percent of their regular fleet,
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  Speaker 9: including all of the major surface combatants. As the secretary said,
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  Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty ships are at the bottom of
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  Speaker 9: the ocean, and half of the Irgc navy small attack
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  Speaker 9: boats joint fires projected from the land, sea, and air
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  Speaker 9: executed more than seven hundred strikes against naval mind targets,
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  Speaker 9: and we had assessed that we destroyed more than ninety
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  Speaker 9: five percent of their naval minds, and perhaps most importantly,
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  Speaker 9: we've destroyed Iran's defense industrial base their ability to reconstitute
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  Speaker 9: those capabilities for years to come. We attacked, along with
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  Speaker 9: our partners, approximately ninety percent of their weapons factories. Every
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  Speaker 9: factory that produced Shahed one way attack drones was struck.
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  Speaker 9: Every factory that produces the guidance systems that go into
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  Speaker 9: those drones was struck. Their missile defense industrial base is shattered,
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  Speaker 9: with more than eighty percent of their missile facilities gone,
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  Speaker 9: as well as their solid rocket motor production capability. It
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  Speaker 9: will take years for Iran to rebuild any major surface combatants,
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  Speaker 9: as more than twenty naval production and fabrication facilities have
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  Speaker 9: been damaged or destroyed, and nearly eighty percent of Iran's
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  Speaker 9: nuclear industrial base was hit, further degrading their attempts to
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  Speaker 9: attain a nuclear weapon. Throughout Operation Epic Fury, our joint
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  Speaker 9: force struck at the heart of Iran's ability to project
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  Speaker 9: power and threatened the United States in the region, and
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  Speaker 9: in order to do this, it required the service and
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  Speaker 9: sacrifice of more than fifty thousand American warfighters deployed across Sentcom, YUKAM,
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  Speaker 9: and stateside. The joint force flew more than ten thousand missions,
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  Speaker 9: including sixty two bomber missions, eighteen of which flew round
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  Speaker 9: trip from the United States to deliver military target on
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  Speaker 9: bombs on military targets. Each of these missions was more
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: than thirty hours in duration, and we did that eighteen times.
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: No other military in the world can do that, and
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: it's a testament to the logistical force that quietly serves
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: behind them. I cannot thank Transcom and the Air Force,
• 21:48
  Speaker 9: Tanker and Mobility Force more. Combined with Army and Navy
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: joint fires, we stuck more than thirteen thousand targets, and
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: along with our golf partners, we've thus far intercepted did
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: seventeen hundred ballistic missiles and one way attack drones, defending
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: our forces and our partners in the civilian population, and
• 22:08
  Speaker 9: we remain ready to do so should the need arise.
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: Along the way, we consume more than six million meals
• 22:18
  Speaker 9: and by my estimate, more than nine hundred and fifty
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: thousand gallons of coffee, two million energy drinks, and a
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: lot of nicotine. But I am not saying that we
• 22:27
  Speaker 9: have a problem. I've laid out the statistics, but it
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: does not truly capture the nature of combat. This is
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: gritty and unforgiving business. It's chaotic, it's hot, it's dark,
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: it's unpredictable, and there's always unknowns. And our people proudly
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: walked into those unknowns and continue forward and through it all,
• 22:52
  Speaker 9: the Joint Force has demonstrated the unwavering resolve that the
• 22:56
  Speaker 9: nation demands of us. We are a mission focused force
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: and our objectives always is to create the conditions for peace,
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: and today we have while be ready should that peace break,
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: which we hope it is not, and we remain ready.
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: Before I turn it back to the Secretary, I also
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: want to quickly revisit the rescue of the Air Force
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: fighter crew over the weekend to give you an update.
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: We've had the Secretary, and I've had the profound honor
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: of speaking directly with many of the war fighters on
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: that mission, from the down crew that were picked up
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: to those forces that went them gott them. Hearing these
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: stories firsthand, has only deepened our appreciation for their tenacity, creativity, courage,
• 23:46
  Speaker 9: and grit of the American Joint Force. This is a
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: story that gets to the very heart and soul of
• 23:55
  Speaker 9: who we are as a joint force, who we are
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: as Americans selfless sacrifice in service of others. From the
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: backseater Dude four to four, bravo, who's pure and unadulterated
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: joy at seeing those helicopters come into the valley to
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: get his front seater in daylight because he knew the
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: front seater did not have a jacket and was so
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: filled with heart leaping joy at his front seater getting
• 24:32
  Speaker 9: picked up, to the nighttime folks that went in and
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: then got him, to the tanker forces that did the
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: things that they had to do to give their own
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: gas away, to the support packages, to those that went
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: into the desert landing site not once, not twice, but
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: three times as we fought through multiple contingencies. This was
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: and is a joint force that had as the guts
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: to try, that does not quit, and who each and
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: every day does the things that we must to dare
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: to win. No lives were lost. We succeeded because the
• 25:13
  Speaker 9: Joint Force is always at the ready. They trust each other,
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: they trust their leaders, and they trust their training, and
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: they remember first, foremost and always that we do these
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: things so that others may live, and we will never
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: leave anyone behind.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: The success of.
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: Operation Fury thus far, and we hope it remains culminates
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: with this incredible rescue over the weekend a direct example
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: of the professionalism and courage of the United States Military
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: and our Joint Force. It's the service members on the
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: front lines, our partners in the region, our teammates in
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: the intelligence community, our civilian leaders in the OSW side
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: of the house, the American workers who build the tools
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: and weapons that we use, and the American people who
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: back us up that help us to go do these things.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: We stand here. I stand here humbled today, but frankly
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: not surprised by what the Joint Force has been able
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: to do. Their performance is fueled by a deep commitment
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: to each other, their mission into our country. It is
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: an incredible, deep honor for me to be a part
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: of this joint force, and I'm humbled by the service
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: and sacrifice each and every day that I am lucky
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: enough to see. And finally, as I always do, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: ask that we never forget our fallen and their families,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: especially those thirteen fallen from Operation Epic Fury. May we
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: always be worthy of their sacrifice and honor their legacy.
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: And with that so I'll turn it back over to you.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: The US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Dan Caine there with of course, the Secretary of War
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: in the United States Pete Haikeseith giving an update on
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Operation Epic Fury. Dan Kine mentioned there that they believe
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: ninety percent of the Iranian navy has been sunk, that
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: ninety percent of weapons factories in Iran have been hit.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Danika there talking this up as a victory, seemingly that's
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: the sort of language that they're using there, but they
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: did both note that this is only a cease fire,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: so you can cry about it being a victory. And yes,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: the stunt that Trump pulled overnight was successful in the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: aim that he wanted to achieve, which was to get
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: that cease fire. But we could be back here in
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: two weeks talking about Iran not being happy.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Because they have of course put forward a.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Whole bunch of demands to the US in order to
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: make all of this work. A lot of them quite outlandish.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, they want compensation for what's been done to them.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I know, they basically want a toll on the Strait
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: of hor Moves so they can control still even though
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: it will be reopened, who's coming in and out. They
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: want to all sanctions to be lifted basically. I mean,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: it's a serious grab bag of things they want. So
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: we could be in two weeks talking about, well, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: negotiations have broken down and we're back to square one again.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Is it a bit early to be crowing about victory.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: No, I don't think so at all. And I think
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: because America is very much so in charge of this.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, you just heard what Pete Hegseth said. Then
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: the entire regime is on its knees. It's all but
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: been decimated. You would have heard he went one, one
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: by one, the key personnel who are now dead thanks
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: to US and Israeli airstrikes. So I understand your point there, Caleb,
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: and I mean Pete Heggseth was calling this a historic
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: and decisive victory. But before we came on air tonight,
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: President Trump also posted two truths social that Iran has
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: agreed to many of those fifteen points already as part
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: of the long term peace plan that is that they're
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: trying to agree on. So no, I actually really think
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: that America is in charge right now. I mean, don't
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: forget the three of us sat here twenty four hours
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: ago when the island there in Iran was being hit
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: by the United States. And secondly, when Donald Trump put
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: out that statement that said an entire civilization will be
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: wiped out, and well look.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: We look what's happened.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: Twenty four hours later, actually within a matter of hours,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: he got them.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: To the table.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: He did it. He actually did it, And that to
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: me is leadership.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: So you can criticize whatever he says, how he goes
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: about things. The guy knows the art of the deal.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: In my view, I.
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: Think it's just Trump's And again, it is a heart
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: stopping moment. And last night none of us knew whether
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: Rainings would accept this and whether Trump would actually go
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: through with his threat to just flatten the place. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: that is, if anything, his genius if you want to
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: call it that, or is just sheer, crazy, brave bravado,
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: which is and again it's an established it is an
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: establish form of political and geopolitical tactics. It's called the
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: Madman diplomacy, where you basically present to the world as
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: a persona so unpredictable that people do whatever you want
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: because they know that you won't abide by the usual
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: norms that they can count on everyone else doing. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: they know that Barack Obama or Joe Biden isn't going to,
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: you know, wipe out the entire Iranian state. With Trump,
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: you just don't quite know. And because of you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: people like us also not knowing. No one really knows.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: I don't think sometimes Trump even knows. Did Trump know
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: in advance whether he'd go through with when the Iranians
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: failed to meet if the Uranians failed to meet that deadline,
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure that he did. And this is and
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: this is the kind of thing if if even he
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: doesn't know, then how can he how can his.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: He would have had a plan, though, I don't think.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: I think we've got to give him a bit of bread.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Would the plan would have been to it what he
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: that's right, I agree, But you know what would after that?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We don't know.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Let's go to our Washington correspondent, Jonathan Cursley for more
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: on all of this. Jonathan thank you for joining us
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: again tonight. We've been keeping you busy the last capital
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: of nights, I probably should say the President has been
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: keeping you busy. And obviously in that update there, as
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I said before.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: They are calling this a victory.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: They've outlined just how much of the Iranian military they
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: have destroyed. They seem very confident that in two weeks
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: time we will have achieved a long term deal, not.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Justiceaes far Caleb.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: I think what you've just seen from the Secretary of
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: Warpet heigsth in particular, is a victory lap seconds after
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: the starter's gone has been fired. It's an extraordinary change
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: of tact from the man in charge at the Pentagon,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: who is essentially now summing this up as war done,
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: job complete. The message you can take out of that
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: is President Trump wants out. He does not want to
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: be in this conflict anymore, and he is looking for
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: any way he can to strike a deal with Iran
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: and no longer be involved in this war. That is
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: now day forty, if we want to include days during
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: the ceasefire. I think what we need to look at
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: two in the long term game.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: When we look at the.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Two week ceasefire, that is now before us is what
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: are Iran and the United States is going to have
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: to give up in order for this deal to be struck.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: The United States has fifteen points. We heard the Secretary
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: of War there say that the new regime, as he
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: calls it, understand that they will no longer be able
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: to enrich uranium. They will not have a uranium program.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: That was obviously a key objective. It was also a
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: key objective during the strikes in the middle of last
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: summer when they said they had obliterated Iran's nuclear program.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Now that was the achievement again this time around. You
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: have to look at Iran's points too and wonder what
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: are they going to give up in all of this,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: given that this is not just a new regime, because
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: it is the son of the late Ayatolla who is
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: apparently still in charge. Mog to a Hamani.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Look at a Ram's list.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: You've got a UN Security Council resolution making any deal binding.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: First of all, binding decision from the UN Security Council. Well,
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, good luck with that. The release of frozen
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: Iranian assets. Again, is the United States going to want
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: to give up that US military withdrawal from the Middle
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: east Well. I mean President Trump has indicated he wants
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: out of the war, but there is never going to
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: be a complete withdrawal from the US patrolling what is
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: essentially freedom of navigation, Iranian control over the straight offall moves,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: and a lifting of all sanctions on a run. I mean,
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: these are ideas that essentially are now before the US President,
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: and there's a couple on that list. I don't think
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: Donald Trump is going to want to budge on. He
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: needs to find an off ramp. He was presented with
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: one yesterday, an emergency off ramp to delay further strikes.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: But now essentially what's happened or the clock's been reset. Yes,
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Israel has agreed to this ceasefire too, but it hasn't
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: agreed to stop doing what it's doing in Lebanon either
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: and advancing the interests that it is taking inside there.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: And is Iran really done with this military conflict? We
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: saw the missile still firing into Israel, into Saudi Arabia
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: and to cut her into the UAE hours after this
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: ceasefire agreement had been announced by the Supreme National Security Council.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: So look, it's a ceasefire.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Any ceasefire is delicate.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Any ceasefire is also positive news because it gives the
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: sides a chance to talk. But I think what we
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: saw from Secretary Hexath in particular then was perhaps a
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: premature victory lap. But look, time will tell on that front.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: Jonathan, it's Denika. What's been the reaction over in the US.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: We spoke to you twenty four hours ago when Donald
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: Trump first put out that statement that he would wipe
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: out an entire civilization. Hours later, Iran seemingly came to
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: the table. Here we are night with Pete Hegseth saying, quote,
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: it was a historic and decisive victory. How has this
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: gone down in the US?
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Well, the markets are certainly going to receive it well
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: when Wall Street opens very shortly. Indeed, the oil price
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: has certainly received it very well when they fell through
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: the floor. And largely the American population does not want
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: to see its troops involved in another prolonged conflict. They
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: have been looking for President Trump to try and find
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: a way out, and I think President Trump himself has
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: been trying to find a way out of this conflict too.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: I don't think there was any seriousness that President Trump
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: was actually going to carry through with the claim he
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: was going to wipe out a whole civilization in one night.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: But that is the power of the post from the
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: president is that countries know that essentially he wills an
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: extraordinary amount of power. So look, I think Americans are
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: going to be looking to this today going. Yes, it
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: is a pause America as America is selling it as one,
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: but there is still time to run out, so there
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: may be a little bit of trepidation in the air.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: I think.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: From Waldenega Jonathan Curzly, thank you so much for joining
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: us tonight. After the break, we'll take a little more
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: at all of this, and of course.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: The fuel crisis.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yet again, after this deal has been struck, what will
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: it mean for fuel crisis.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Here in Australia. That's in tomorrow's newspapers. Don't go away.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Let's take a.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Look at what it'll be a cost tomorrow's newspapers. Daniki,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you've got the Courier mail.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: I do headline there. Fuel fight rages on US President
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: Donald Trump's deal to end hostilities in Iran and begin
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: peace talks. We'll do nothing to ease petrol prices here,
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: with motorists told to expect more months of pain. Peace
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: talks are expected within days after. As we've been discussing,
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: US and Iran agreed to a cease fire just ninety
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: minutes before the deadline set by mister Trump, a threat
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: that's been criticized by the p M. And we have
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: from Chris Bowen today that disastrous press conference. He's warned
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: Australians to not get ahead of ourselves. Jeez, as analysts
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: said it could take years for oil production to return
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: to pre war levels and a ram promise to reopen
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: the Strait of Homer's to shipping. Well, if this is
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: not yet another warning that we really need to become
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: self sufficient and we to start looking into our own backyards,
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know what is. And you've got Chris Bowling
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: out there today, still waffling on about how renewables are
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: going better than coal and that coal is unreliable. Well,
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: we've got so much coal, we're sitting on an abundance
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: and we don't have enough power and now we don't
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: have enough few reserves. If this is not another warning,
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know what is.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Surely that's where the discussion now has to go, right
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: when we have to talk seriously as a nation about
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the decades of basically running down our self sufficiency on
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: these matters, the closure of our refineries, etc. You know,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: in times of crisis, necessity comes to the fore, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: surely we've reached the point now where as a nation
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: we have to have that discussion.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Seriously.
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. And it's something that people have
• 38:09
  Speaker 7: been talking about for years. I think, you know, I've
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: had friends of mine, general friends of mine raised questions about,
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: you know, the massive gas reserves we have that are
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: being sold off overseas because they can get more money
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: than they can for selling it here in Australia. Gas
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: I think has always been something that was really important
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: and the Greenies made the perfect the enemy of the good,
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: and so we're saying we've got to get rid of
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: gas as well as Cole, and of course that was
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: pretty quickly reversed in the jurisdictions where they actually did it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: I think we had a problem where we moved tried
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: to move to an over alliance on green energy when
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: we weren't there yet. I think that was the problem.
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: And another part of the problem. I mean talking about
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: Chris Bowen saying that Cole is unreliable. That is right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: but the thing is that that's because coal fired power
• 38:59
  Speaker 7: plants weren't being maintained. The necessary redundancies weren't being put in,
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: so that were conking out because companies didn't see the
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: point in throwing money into.
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: It wouldn't be great to have a bit of base
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: load power like that right now.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Them open because we don't have the renewer lines.
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: So I think we can get that. And we've only
• 39:20
  Speaker 7: got two refineries. I think we'll have more on that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: The other thing is we didn't even have the fuel reserves,
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: like forget about you know, drill baby drill in Australia.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: But even just having the reserves the ninety days we're
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: supposed to have, it's accumulated from other countries.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: We simply do exactly, And I mean just look at
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the US that their fuel prices have not shot up
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: in the midst.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Of now all but ours has.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: So we should take this on board while we're talking
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: about the fuel crisis. On the front of the Mercury
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: and Tazzy Tomorrow, it's his buses blitz free public transport.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: It's prompted a sharp rise in bus use, with five
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: thousand extra Tasmanians boarding services compared with the previous week,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: So one week in people are getting on the bus
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  Speaker 2: because it is free. I mean, we talked earlier about
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  Speaker 2: the fact that people aren't happy with that there are
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  Speaker 2: too many other people on their buses that they thought
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  Speaker 2: they had to themselves. But it kind of proves the
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  Speaker 2: point that I was making last week, and I've written
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  Speaker 2: in print as well that people will use it. If
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  Speaker 2: you make it free, people will use it.
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  Speaker 1: And at the moment I think that's probably a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I take a bus now if you want to
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  Speaker 6: be squashed in like a sard and then fulfill yourself
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  Speaker 6: on TikTok saying how much you hate it and that
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  Speaker 6: people need to have etiquettes when they take the bus.
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  Speaker 7: I over enjoyed that you are being squashed for the planet.
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  Speaker 7: You're being squished to death for mother Geyer. So just
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  Speaker 7: you know, I take one for the team.
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  Speaker 2: Why can't you get your mate Chris to do it
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  Speaker 2: in New South Wales because we.
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  Speaker 7: Don't want to be at squished. We've got dignity. We're
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  Speaker 7: not like those.
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  Speaker 1: So you don't want to save the planet the fuel and.
• 40:44
  Speaker 7: We want Victorians to save the planet. I see want
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: to attract their natural juices through a high pressure application
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  Speaker 7: of handbags on trams.
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  Speaker 1: We should just make a new South Williston pain more.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, where are superior species? Everyone knows that. Anyway, Day Telegraph,
• 41:00
  Speaker 7: speaking of Experience space, he's the greatest newspaper on the planet,
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: is splashing with a war you won't win, and this
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: is the Ben Robert Smith stuff. I've got to say.
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  Speaker 7: I joked last night that we all thought that this
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  Speaker 7: was going to be the biggest story the day tomorrow
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  Speaker 7: until Trump's tweet, the attacks on Cargo Island, etc. Etc.
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  Speaker 7: The obsession with the Ben Roberts Smith story is still
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  Speaker 7: just absolutely white hot. It is, and I reckon it's
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  Speaker 7: probably getting more eyeballs than the prospect of World War three,
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  Speaker 7: which tells it we need no anyway A war you
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  Speaker 7: won't win, Experts says BRS prosecution is doomed to fail.
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  Speaker 7: This is exclusive by Jake McCallum and Eliza Barr, both
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  Speaker 7: Crack reporters. The three hundred million, ten year campaign to
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  Speaker 7: convict Victoria Cross recipient Ben Roberts Smith of war crimes
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  Speaker 7: is doomed to fail. According to a former top ranking
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  Speaker 7: Australian Defense Force legal officer, Former Colonel Bruce Levett, who
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  Speaker 7: served in the Australian Army Legal Corps until twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 7: told the Daily Telegraph civilian prosecutors would struggle to convict
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  Speaker 7: the highly decorated sas corporal of the five War Crime
• 42:11
  Speaker 7: murder Chargers. Without commenting on the strength of the evidence
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  Speaker 7: to be put before the courts, mister Levitt said there
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: were inherent barriers to securing convictions against military personnel in
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: civilian courts. This is interesting because there was a similar
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  Speaker 7: another article in The Australian yesterday by earlier today by
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: Stephen Rice, which was saying that another part of the
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: problem is the reluctance of some people to give evidence
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  Speaker 7: in the civil case. Might not be a problem when
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: you're just finding guilt on the balance of probabilities, but
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: if it has to be beyond any reasonable doubt, that
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: might be more difficult. What if these witnesses who were
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: reluctant to say things to a guy because they either
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: respected him or feared him or whatever it might be,
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: or served with him just you know, it felt like
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  Speaker 7: that bond to him. If they know that their evidence
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  Speaker 7: could put him in jail for life, Well, I think I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, we've got to be careful what we say, obviously,
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  Speaker 6: given that this is now before the courts. But what
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  Speaker 6: I will say is that the question was actually asked
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  Speaker 6: at the AFP press conference yesterday in terms of evidence,
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  Speaker 6: and they did admit the difficulty of it because it happened,
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  Speaker 6: the allegations happened in a war zone. Well, how are
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: you going to get evidence now?
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: It's very, very difficult to dig up.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that that's why this comment has been
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: made by the former Colonel Bruce Levett to the paper
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  Speaker 6: about the difficulty of that.
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  Speaker 7: That's right. It's all the eyewitness testimony of these former.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff the diligent matter between seventeen and fourteen years ago.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I think what's going on here is you have a
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  Speaker 2: reasonably new AFP commissioners. She's head her feet under the
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  Speaker 2: table for six months. She wants to make a splash.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they did it so publicly yesterday. But if
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  Speaker 2: this fails, it's not going to be good for the AFP.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I agree, that's why he said. Mister Levits
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  Speaker 6: said there were no inherent barriers to securing convictions against
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: military personnel and civilian courts without commenting on the strength
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  Speaker 6: of the evidence. So it's pretty very difficult. Okay, let's
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: move on to the camera Times. Let's lighten the mood here.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Have a look at these incredible pictures of the moon.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Moon with a view.
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  Speaker 6: Artemis two astronauts have beamed back pictures and other data
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  Speaker 6: from their record breaking Luna rendezvous. The Highlight an earthset
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  Speaker 6: photo reminiscent of Apollo eights earth rise shot from nineteen
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  Speaker 6: sixty eight. The Artemis two astronauts also became the first
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  Speaker 6: to gaze by I at parts of the elusive far
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  Speaker 6: side of the Moon. Isn't it beautiful?
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  Speaker 3: What a shot?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that gorgeous? It is.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: It is a good shot and the best thing that's
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: been on the front of the Canberra Times for a
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: very long time. On the front of the Australian Tomorrow.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Root out spies on campus aarc Toplisidens say root spies.
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  Speaker 2: The Australian Research Council has been ordered to work with
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  Speaker 2: security agencies to stamp out Isbian and foreign interference in universities.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: In a dramatic intervention by Educational Minister Jason clear All
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  Speaker 2: publicly funded research must comply with the federal governments, anti Semitism,
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  Speaker 2: extremism and hate speech laws under changes endorsed by its
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Anti Semitism Education Task Force, and extraordinary that even would
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: even have to talk about it.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: We're going to step at the espion action foreign interference
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  Speaker 1: in the universe.
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  Speaker 2: It would seem pretty pretty, you know, self evident, wouldn't.
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  Speaker 7: It, che spy.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, maybe if we ask nicely, they'll go and do
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: it after the break.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whether.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: You're the sort of person who enjoys going on rides
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and the Easter show is on a bone, and so
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: you're the echo at the Royal Adelaide show and whatever,
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  Speaker 2: do you go on the rides. I've got a reason
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  Speaker 2: maybe that you won't want to, Papa