Latest / The Sean O'Connell Show / Zack Moss reacts to the dominant road win over Cincy, He also previews the Holy War game, Proud that he never lost to BYU + more
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- 0:06Speaker 1: This is the Sean O'Connell Show, your home of the
- 0:09Speaker 1: best inside of your Utes.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Let's get back to O.C.
- 0:13Speaker 1: From the Murdoch Chevrolet studio of ESPN 792.1 FM.
- 0:28Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Welcome in Zach Moss, Utah football legend, NFL veteran. Sideline
- 0:35Speaker 1: analyst on the Utah radio broadcast. And he joins us
- 0:39Speaker 1: every single week here on a Monday to recap the
- 0:41Speaker 1: weekend and look forward to next week.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Zach Moss, welcome to the show. How are you, sir?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Doing good. How are you guys doing?
- 0:49Speaker 3: Great man.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Undefeated still Utah football goes on the road and smashes
- 0:55Speaker 1: Cincinnati big burst out performance in the first half.
- 0:59Speaker 3: You're down there on the field. What did you see
- 1:01Speaker 3: at Nippert stadium?
- 1:04Speaker 4: I just saw the team that was locked in, ready
- 1:06Speaker 4: to go. Absolutely no worries about a track game.
- 1:11Speaker 2: You know, those guys was ready to go. They was
- 1:13Speaker 2: locked in from the jump.
- 1:15Speaker 4: It was absolutely a blitz that they put on Cincinnati.
- 1:19Speaker 2: So that was always good to see. That's what you
- 1:20Speaker 2: want to.
- 1:21Speaker 4: See when you talk about championship caliber teams, right?
- 1:24Speaker 2: Not playing with your food. So, you know, those guys
- 1:26Speaker 2: right there absolutely took care of their business early on.
- 1:29Speaker 1: 42 to six at half. And then they come out
- 1:33Speaker 1: of half and it's a, it's a lot slower in
- 1:35Speaker 1: the second half.
- 1:36Speaker 3: And you and I have.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Talked about this before the third quarters. This one felt
- 1:40Speaker 1: a little bit different of a lull in the third quarter.
- 1:44Speaker 1: You're fighting human nature at that point, when you're a player,
- 1:46Speaker 1: when you're a coach, you obviously want to stay dialed in.
- 1:50Speaker 1: You want to make sure you're still putting your best
- 1:51Speaker 1: foot forward, but when you're up 42 to six, really
- 1:54Speaker 1: hard to have your foot all the way down on
- 1:56Speaker 1: the gas pedal. I imagine that's, What did you see
- 1:59Speaker 1: in the second half? Some fans are worried about it.
- 2:02Speaker 1: I don't think I am.
- 2:03Speaker 3: What did you see in the second half that maybe
- 2:05Speaker 3: slowed things down for Utah?
- 2:09Speaker 4: I'm a little worried about it, I will say, in
- 2:11Speaker 4: the sense that it's not a first week thing.
- 2:14Speaker 2: This has been something.
- 2:15Speaker 4: Over these couple of weeks where You know, they always
- 2:19Speaker 4: seem to have at least one quarter, no.
- 2:22Speaker 2: Matter when it might be, right? It could be early
- 2:24Speaker 2: on in the game, third quarter.
- 2:25Speaker 4: It seems to be on top of an offensive law.
- 2:29Speaker 4: It could be a defensive law as well sometimes, you know,
- 2:32Speaker 4: in that Kansas game where the defense is absolutely just getting,
- 2:34Speaker 4: you know, shredded and stuff like that. So it seems
- 2:37Speaker 4: to be that, you know, this isn't a one-time thing, right?
- 2:43Speaker 4: I don't want people thinking that it's a one-time thing.
- 2:46Speaker 4: It is something that keeps showing up. And as you
- 2:49Speaker 4: continue to get up in, you know, competition week in
- 2:52Speaker 4: and week out, right, and these games start meaning a
- 2:55Speaker 4: lot more. And like you say, you know, undefeated, you know,
- 2:59Speaker 4: everybody's looking at chops to play.
- 3:00Speaker 2: You can't have those quarters, right? You can have a.
- 3:04Speaker 4: Few bad drives, but things can't, you know, essentially compound
- 3:09Speaker 4: long enough to where we're talking about, you know, Offense
- 3:13Speaker 4: not looking so well. Defense not looking so well for
- 3:15Speaker 4: an entire quarter, which is why, you know, Cincinnati got
- 3:19Speaker 4: a little bit of life going into that, coming out
- 3:22Speaker 4: of that halftime.
- 3:23Speaker 2: And same thing happened versus Iowa State.
- 3:26Speaker 4: You know, similar things versus Utah State where we scored 33. But, yeah,
- 3:32Speaker 4: it's hard to keep your foot on the pedal. You know,
- 3:36Speaker 4: obviously the game plan changes a lot, right? You try
- 3:40Speaker 4: to run the ball a little bit more, try to
- 3:41Speaker 4: just do some– some game managing things, which kind of
- 3:44Speaker 4: takes a lot of the edge off for the offense.
- 3:49Speaker 2: But at the same time, you got to be able
- 3:51Speaker 2: to do the regular things, right? Very well, the fundamentals very.
- 3:56Speaker 4: Well, and not just be able to, you know, function when,
- 4:00Speaker 4: you know, we're calling really good plays. We got to
- 4:03Speaker 4: be able to do certain things and churn and get
- 4:05Speaker 4: into some four-minute situations of an offense and do those
- 4:08Speaker 4: things at a high level.
- 4:10Speaker 2: So....
- 4:12Speaker 3: You're eight games into the season.
- 4:14Speaker 1: This, this might just be part of who you are,
- 4:16Speaker 1: but we, we made that point at the beginning of
- 4:17Speaker 1: the show. We have not yet played this, not yet
- 4:20Speaker 1: seen this team play for complete quarters. Well, and you
- 4:24Speaker 1: just pointed out sometimes it's early, like it was against Houston.
- 4:28Speaker 1: And sometimes it's later, like it was this week. And,
- 4:32Speaker 1: you know, if, if you're going to have a lull
- 4:35Speaker 1: in a game and it's going to be, you know,
- 4:37Speaker 1: a couple of drives long, I think you just mentioned
- 4:40Speaker 1: probably you can survive it, with the BYU game coming up,
- 4:44Speaker 1: how long of a lull can you survive knowing how
- 4:47Speaker 1: formidable the Cougars are?
- 4:52Speaker 2: .
- 5:07Speaker 4: If you
- 5:09Speaker 4: look around the college.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Football, right, you look in NFL and talk about divisional games, right?
- 5:14Speaker 4: You know, sometimes game plan goes out the window and
- 5:18Speaker 4: it's about who.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Absolutely wants it a lot more. So they can't have it.
- 5:24Speaker 4: You know, the good thing, the bright thing about this
- 5:26Speaker 4: offense overall is that, you know, they do have the
- 5:30Speaker 4: tendency to, you know, have some lulls, but at the
- 5:33Speaker 4: same time, they start off the games so fast, right?
- 5:37Speaker 2: Only one game, I believe.
- 5:38Speaker 4: This season where we didn't score an opening drive, a
- 5:43Speaker 4: touchdown or points at all. And that was versus Houston.
- 5:46Speaker 4: You know, and that was a team where you talk
- 5:48Speaker 4: about a top 15 opponent where the level of competition
- 5:52Speaker 4: absolutely rose real.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Quick and we got shut out. Right.
- 5:56Speaker 4: So that stuff right there, is something that you can't just,
- 6:00Speaker 4: you know, toot your nose at. You got to absolutely,
- 6:03Speaker 4: you know, look at that, believe that to be what
- 6:06Speaker 4: it is because football isn't a game of mirage, right?
- 6:09Speaker 4: Whatever you see is exactly what's happening. So, you know,
- 6:14Speaker 4: they start fast. Hopefully that continues on 10 o'clock on
- 6:20Speaker 4: Saturday because they're definitely going to need it because it's
- 6:23Speaker 4: hard to, you know, not– to play four full quarters
- 6:28Speaker 4: of football, which, you know, I've been saying on our
- 6:31Speaker 4: show with Bill and Sly that we haven't seen this
- 6:33Speaker 4: team play four full quarters of football.
- 6:35Speaker 2: So, you know, I'm going to say.
- 6:37Speaker 4: It now, hopefully those guys absolutely decide to play four
- 6:41Speaker 4: full quarters on Saturday.
- 6:44Speaker 1: So you've got a situation now where it's a top
- 6:48Speaker 1: 10 Holy War. It's our, I think for most people,
- 6:51Speaker 1: definitively the biggest Holy War game ever. And, you know,
- 6:55Speaker 1: you're going into it You're going into it undefeated. You're
- 6:59Speaker 1: going into it where you've been tested a little bit,
- 7:02Speaker 1: but you haven't had that sting yet. Is there something
- 7:06Speaker 1: to being undefeated versus like BYU where they've already got
- 7:11Speaker 1: a loss out of the way? They know how to
- 7:12Speaker 1: recover from that. They didn't play that great against Arizona State.
- 7:17Speaker 1: But the confidence that comes with not only being a
- 7:20Speaker 1: winning team, a good team, but an undefeated team coming
- 7:23Speaker 1: into this holy war.
- 7:24Speaker 3: What do you think it does for, or against Morgan
- 7:26Speaker 3: Scali script?
- 7:27Speaker 4: Speaker 4, I don't think it does anything, honestly. You know,
- 7:31Speaker 4: the record is what the record is. You know, all
- 7:34Speaker 4: the message always is to be wanting to write every
- 7:39Speaker 4: single game you go into.
- 7:41Speaker 2: It's always a new week. You always start. Oh, no. Right.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Both teams are on.
- 7:44Speaker 4: No, they're just trying to get, they're just trying to
- 7:46Speaker 4: go wanting to know that that week.
- 7:49Speaker 2: So it's very similar. This week, right?
- 7:52Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, obviously BYU losing the game.
- 7:56Speaker 4: You know, the bigger thing is both of these teams
- 7:58Speaker 4: have played in big games already this year. Obviously, BYU
- 8:01Speaker 4: versus Notre Dame and then our game versus Houston, right?
- 8:05Speaker 2: You know, and we both played that game at home, right?
- 8:08Speaker 2: This is another big game and BYU is on the road.
- 8:12Speaker 4: So you get a little bit of a confidence boost
- 8:14Speaker 4: from that. But yeah, the record is what the record is.
- 8:17Speaker 4: The mission, the, you know, the message that is being
- 8:22Speaker 4: preached is to go one and oh, don't look at
- 8:24Speaker 4: what we're doing and what we have done.
- 8:26Speaker 2: That's already done.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Zach Moss is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
- 8:30Speaker 1: show talking a little Utah BYU, which is of course
- 8:34Speaker 1: the biggest game of the year so far. We had
- 8:38Speaker 1: a Creed Whittemore game earlier. We had Braden Pagan have
- 8:43Speaker 1: breakout games already. Noah Benny got his breakout game. Dan
- 8:47Speaker 1: Pierce has been pretty consistent. Way Sean has been awesome
- 8:51Speaker 1: in every game. Even when he doesn't have crazy stats,
- 8:54Speaker 1: we had the Hunter Andrews breakout game against Cincinnati. He
- 8:57Speaker 1: goes over a hundred yards and scores a couple of touchdowns.
- 9:01Speaker 1: And I'm looking at this roster and I'm like, okay,
- 9:03Speaker 1: who's next? who is Kevin McGibbon going to scheme into
- 9:07Speaker 1: a great game next for this Utah football team? And
- 9:10Speaker 1: can it be somebody like Daniel Bray who had some
- 9:12Speaker 1: nice moments in last year's BYU game?
- 9:15Speaker 3: So I extend that question to you.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Is there still somebody on the roster that is going
- 9:20Speaker 1: to have a breakout game?
- 9:21Speaker 3: I mean, we're eight, we're eight games in, so maybe
- 9:23Speaker 3: I shouldn't expect it anymore.
- 9:27Speaker 2: I think you hit it on the head. We're eight
- 9:29Speaker 2: games in.
- 9:30Speaker 4: I think the offense knows exactly who they are.
- 9:34Speaker 2: They know exactly the guys they want to lean on.
- 9:36Speaker 4: So I don't think we might see any breakout games. Essentially,
- 9:42Speaker 4: I think, you know, Ricky Johnson has a very good game,
- 9:45Speaker 4: I want to say, versus Kansas.
- 9:49Speaker 2: So, you know, the main thing is just.
- 9:51Speaker 4: Everybody doing their job at a high level, right? It
- 9:53Speaker 4: doesn't have to be one guy. Like I said, these.
- 9:57Speaker 2: These rivalry.
- 9:57Speaker 4: Games are absolutely... totally different type ball game, right?
- 10:01Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
- 10:03Speaker 4: You know, you know, way Sean has had some really
- 10:05Speaker 4: good games this year. A lot of guys have done
- 10:08Speaker 4: really a lot of good things. But you know, when
- 10:12Speaker 4: you have these rivalry games, all that stuff goes out
- 10:14Speaker 4: of the window, and it's about all 11 guys on
- 10:17Speaker 4: both sides of the ball doing everything they need to
- 10:19Speaker 4: do to win a game like this because, you know,
- 10:22Speaker 4: it's hitting yardage in these type of games that show up.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Don't show up in the stat sheet, essentially, but are
- 10:27Speaker 4: going to show up in the win-loss category. And, you know,
- 10:31Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to special teams to be a big
- 10:34Speaker 4: part of this game and absolutely get rolling and flip
- 10:37Speaker 4: a field and, you know, so that way we don't
- 10:39Speaker 4: have to go.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Down you know, 90 yards every single time. And our
- 10:43Speaker 2: side of the ball, when we give them back the ball,
- 10:45Speaker 2: making them have.
- 10:46Speaker 4: To drive the length of the football field. So for me,
- 10:49Speaker 4: if anything, I'm looking for a group. It'd be special
- 10:52Speaker 4: teams to really do some dictating of this game.
- 10:57Speaker 3: I like that.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Special teams getting themselves a little bit more involved here.
- 11:02Speaker 1: You never lost to BYU in your Utah football career.
- 11:05Speaker 3: You were part of the long streak. Is that correct?
- 11:09Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite memory, a favorite moment from
- 11:13Speaker 1: Utah versus BYU as a player?
- 11:19Speaker 4: I would say, and I've never actually thought about it,
- 11:23Speaker 4: And I think the favorite moment is, you know, probably
- 11:26Speaker 4: not losing to those guys. Obviously, my first year versus
- 11:30Speaker 4: those guys was 2016. And, you know, that was essentially
- 11:35Speaker 4: my introductory to college football.
- 11:38Speaker 2: You know, I had some.
- 11:40Speaker 4: Some runs in that game that gave me a lot
- 11:42Speaker 4: of confidence as a freshman. You know, so, you know,
- 11:46Speaker 4: my favorite moment is. overall, just not losing to that team.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Because you, you see as the years go by how, just,
- 11:55Speaker 4: I guess, you know, how much you can cherish something
- 11:58Speaker 4: like that. When you're talking to guys that have went
- 12:01Speaker 4: to BYU that you come.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Cross paths with and stuff like that. So that would
- 12:05Speaker 2: be it for me.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Okay.
- 12:07Speaker 1: So one of the games you didn't play in, is
- 12:10Speaker 1: that right? Were you, were you banged up for, was
- 12:12Speaker 1: it 2018 that you didn't.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Have any stats?
- 12:16Speaker 2: Yeah. 18. I didn't play yet. Okay.
- 12:18Speaker 1: So do you know, in the other three BYU games,
- 12:21Speaker 1: do you know the total number of yards you ran
- 12:23Speaker 1: for against BYU in your career?
- 12:26Speaker 2: No.
- 12:28Speaker 3: All right.
- 12:28Speaker 1: First one, you had 58. You had like four carries
- 12:32Speaker 1: for 21. And I guess that would have been 2017.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Missed the 2018 game.
- 12:35Speaker 2: 2019.
- 12:35Speaker 3: Do you know how many you at least had in 2019?
- 12:44Speaker 2: I remember I had a hundred plus.
- 12:45Speaker 4: That was the first game back after my knee surgery.
- 12:50Speaker 4: And then I also walked into that game with a
- 12:52Speaker 4: broken hand as well.
- 12:53Speaker 2: You had 187 yards against BYU in 2019. That is
- 12:55Speaker 2: a monster game against the Cougs. wish it could have
- 13:10Speaker 2: been 200. That would have been even better.
- 13:12Speaker 4: One 87 seems nice, but it seems kind of weird
- 13:15Speaker 4: to that number.
- 13:17Speaker 1: Speaker 0 7, 266 rushing yards for Zach Moss in
- 13:21Speaker 1: three games against BYU.
- 13:23Speaker 3: That's a, that's a healthy number. That's a great number
- 13:25Speaker 3: for Utah.
- 13:26Speaker 2: Great.
- 13:26Speaker 3: And we liked that.
- 13:28Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'll take it.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Cause all those yards essentially helped, you know, the undefeated
- 13:33Speaker 4: record stay undefeated.
- 13:35Speaker 2: So, you know, that's, that was, that's always good. Hopefully
- 13:40Speaker 2: way Sean.
- 13:40Speaker 4: Can do some of that as well and get his
- 13:44Speaker 4: first win against that team.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Well, one of the big things, when you looked at
- 13:47Speaker 1: this game on paper, you know, beginning of the year,
- 13:50Speaker 1: even the first three, four games of the year, it
- 13:53Speaker 1: felt like, you know, way Sean great running back at
- 13:56Speaker 1: the university of Utah, LJ Martin, great running back at BYU.
- 13:59Speaker 1: It would potentially be a, you know, somewhat of a
- 14:01Speaker 1: dual between them who could be more productive for their team.
- 14:05Speaker 1: There is a question as to whether or not LJ
- 14:08Speaker 1: Martin is going to be available. I think he'll play,
- 14:11Speaker 1: but then the question becomes how effective can he be
- 14:14Speaker 1: coming directly off an injury? I think I was told
- 14:18Speaker 1: at least that he had a surgery during that time
- 14:20Speaker 1: off and that can always complicate recovery and things like that.
- 14:24Speaker 1: So when you're going up against a team like BYU,
- 14:27Speaker 1: who is maybe either down one of their best players or,
- 14:30Speaker 1: you with one of their best players limited, how does
- 14:34Speaker 1: it change things for Utah and for what they can do,
- 14:37Speaker 1: especially when their defense is on the field?
- 14:40Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that definitely changes a lot overall as
- 14:45Speaker 4: from the scheme and things like that that Coach Swan
- 14:48Speaker 4: is going to want to implement and just how much
- 14:51Speaker 4: they can actually focus on Bear Buckemeyer, right? So, you know,
- 14:56Speaker 4: that allows them to have a lot more eyes on
- 14:58Speaker 4: him and understand what Coach A-Rod is going to want
- 15:01Speaker 4: to do.
- 15:02Speaker 2: From the games that, you know, they've already shown um,
- 15:06Speaker 2: how they want to use them when they haven't had LJ, right.
- 15:08Speaker 2: You're talking about a really good.
- 15:10Speaker 4: Player in Martin. So, um, you know, overall, like I said, though,
- 15:14Speaker 4: you know, I, I keep saying this out.
- 15:17Speaker 2: It's a real, uh, thing, right. You know, even without.
- 15:22Speaker 4: LJ Martin, this game is going to be still a
- 15:25Speaker 4: tight game, especially early on, hopefully not, you know, too many, um,
- 15:32Speaker 4: different things going on in the back end of the
- 15:33Speaker 4: game where we can, you know, kind of everybody enjoy
- 15:35Speaker 4: the fourth quarter a little bit and just kind of
- 15:37Speaker 4: make sure we get out of here with an easy
- 15:39Speaker 4: ish kind of a win.
- 15:40Speaker 2: But, you know, those guys.
- 15:42Speaker 4: Are still going to play, you know, extremely, extremely hard.
- 15:46Speaker 4: You know, those guys behind LJ, they're going to step up,
- 15:49Speaker 4: you know, because this is, like I said, this is
- 15:51Speaker 4: a game where, you know, it's a lot of bragging
- 15:53Speaker 4: rights just throughout the years of your life and things
- 15:56Speaker 4: of that nature. So, you know, Um, expect everybody to,
- 15:59Speaker 4: you know, definitely be at their absolute best, no matter
- 16:02Speaker 4: who's on the field.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Turnovers are always a big feature in this game.
- 16:08Speaker 1: One turnover can be incredibly costly. I mean, it's true
- 16:10Speaker 1: in every game, but when, you know, most of these
- 16:12Speaker 1: have been one score affairs, it becomes a lot more magnified. And, uh,
- 16:17Speaker 1: interestingly enough, neither BYU or Utah in the last couple
- 16:21Speaker 1: of games has been particularly great with their turnover margin
- 16:25Speaker 1: and with the turnovers in general. Uh, Devin Dampier threw
- 16:29Speaker 1: his first pick six of the season against Cincinnati, and
- 16:33Speaker 1: he's had like a throw in each game that you
- 16:36Speaker 1: kind of want to get back. You don't want to
- 16:39Speaker 1: limit somebody, you don't want to make him overthink things,
- 16:42Speaker 1: but is there a way that that can be approached
- 16:45Speaker 1: with Dev for the Utes ahead of this BYU game?
- 16:51Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, turnovers are huge in every game,
- 16:54Speaker 4: like you said, right?
- 16:56Speaker 2: And you never want to have that.
- 16:57Speaker 4: Dev has definitely had some games where, especially the last
- 17:01Speaker 4: two weeks, where he kind of forced some things that probably,
- 17:04Speaker 4: you know, he didn't need to.
- 17:06Speaker 2: And he's looking at the film and he wanted to
- 17:08Speaker 2: get back and all that type of stuff as well.
- 17:11Speaker 4: But, you know, it turns out it's a part of
- 17:12Speaker 4: the game, so you never want to take a player
- 17:14Speaker 4: from being essentially who they are. You know, that's what
- 17:17Speaker 4: makes these guys able to go out there and be
- 17:21Speaker 4: really good.
- 17:22Speaker 2: So, you know, it's hard to say, but, you know.
- 17:28Speaker 4: Controlling the ball, controlling the time of clock is going
- 17:30Speaker 4: to be huge in this game.
- 17:31Speaker 2: Both teams like to run the ball.
- 17:33Speaker 4: Both teams have quarterbacks that have the ball in their
- 17:36Speaker 4: hands a lot of the time, no design runs and
- 17:41Speaker 4: things like that. So fall security is going to be
- 17:44Speaker 4: absolutely at a premium, right?
- 17:46Speaker 2: Going back to....
- 17:48Speaker 4: Those hidden yards, right? When you get a turnover, right?
- 17:51Speaker 4: And those are hidden yards when you get a turnover, right?
- 17:54Speaker 4: You guys start the ball on a 30-yard line and.
- 17:57Speaker 2: Essentially in the red zone already.
- 18:00Speaker 4: The pick six was huge on giving Cincinnati some nice
- 18:03Speaker 4: little juice of life. So all that stuff definitely plays
- 18:08Speaker 4: a big part into both.
- 18:10Speaker 2: Sides of the ball. So definitely, definitely don't want to get.
- 18:14Speaker 4: Into a turnover battle or lose the turnover battle, which
- 18:17Speaker 4: we definitely did.
- 18:18Speaker 2: I believe last week.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Conversely, Utah was able to create points with the defense
- 18:24Speaker 1: scoop and score touchdown and a pick six of their own,
- 18:27Speaker 1: which kept a 23 season streak alive for the Utes
- 18:32Speaker 1: having at least one pick six and all those seasons. And,
- 18:34Speaker 1: you know, when you're an offensive player and you're sitting
- 18:37Speaker 1: there and you're, four drives have already been successful scoring-wise,
- 18:42Speaker 1: and then you watch the defense get you some points
- 18:44Speaker 1: as well. What does it do for the mentality and
- 18:46Speaker 1: just for the team overall when the defense goes out
- 18:49Speaker 1: and scores points?
- 18:51Speaker 2: Oh, it makes you feel invincible.
- 18:53Speaker 4: Those guys feel like they can't do no wrong because
- 18:56Speaker 4: they already feel like they're going to absolutely go down
- 18:59Speaker 4: there and put some type of points on the board
- 19:00Speaker 4: every single time they have the ball in their hands.
- 19:04Speaker 2: So one thing I know.
- 19:05Speaker 4: About turnovers is if you get some turnovers going in
- 19:09Speaker 4: one game, they definitely can transfer over to another game.
- 19:12Speaker 2: They come in bunches, right? So hopefully.
- 19:16Speaker 4: We get to see a lot more turnovers on Saturday
- 19:19Speaker 4: around 10 a.m.
- 19:20Speaker 2: 10 a.m.
- 19:24Speaker 1: Was the topic of conversation last week, and now it's
- 19:27Speaker 1: a reality approaching, but it's on ABC, right? You don't
- 19:30Speaker 1: even have to have cable to watch this game, a
- 19:33Speaker 1: big showcase opportunity, even if it's early here in the
- 19:36Speaker 1: Mountain Time Zone and even more so on the Pacific Coast. But,
- 19:40Speaker 1: you know, the sleepy bug in your head, the I'm
- 19:45Speaker 1: used to playing at night, how do you get over
- 19:47Speaker 1: all that when you're playing in this particular game?
- 19:50Speaker 2: Game?
- 19:51Speaker 4: Well, you know, as a player, that's It's going to
- 19:55Speaker 4: be a challenge for sure.
- 19:57Speaker 2: They haven't had a game this early at all.
- 20:00Speaker 4: But again, that's part of your job.
- 20:04Speaker 2: And if you can't get up for.
- 20:05Speaker 4: This type of game, for this type of moment, to
- 20:09Speaker 4: showcase not just in-state, but also to the country exactly about...
- 20:15Speaker 4: What what Utah football is about.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Right. And then what the name of the back of
- 20:19Speaker 2: that jersey is all about as well. You know, I'm
- 20:22Speaker 2: not worried about the energy part from the guys.
- 20:24Speaker 4: I think, you know, both sides of the ball, they'll
- 20:26Speaker 4: be absolutely ready to go for this type of game.
- 20:28Speaker 4: It's a primetime game. You don't get a lot of those.
- 20:31Speaker 4: You know, it's really hard to get primetime games. So,
- 20:35Speaker 4: you know, the guys will be ready to go for sure.
- 20:37Speaker 4: Fan side of things, right? Last time I checked, Utah
- 20:41Speaker 4: is sponsored by Monster. So go get you a Monster
- 20:46Speaker 4: or Red Bull, whatever you got to go get and
- 20:48Speaker 4: be ready to go. Because, you know, at the end
- 20:50Speaker 4: of the day, it's going to be a big, big, big,
- 20:53Speaker 4: big game.
- 20:54Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, everybody should be happy.
- 20:56Speaker 4: That Both programs, no matter what side of the ball
- 20:59Speaker 4: you may be on, both programs are being showcased and
- 21:04Speaker 4: that the state is doing some really good things and
- 21:06Speaker 4: that football is definitely trending upwards here in the state
- 21:10Speaker 4: of Utah.
- 21:11Speaker 1: You'll appreciate this because, you know, you're, you're a Florida guy.
- 21:15Speaker 1: And when we talk about elite football talent and where
- 21:19Speaker 1: it comes from and the college football scene, right? A
- 21:22Speaker 1: lot of times it's like California, Texas, Florida, Georgia, That's
- 21:26Speaker 1: where the fertile recruiting grounds are and all that crazy
- 21:30Speaker 1: right now. You can only create top 10 matchups with
- 21:33Speaker 1: schools from two States.
- 21:35Speaker 3: One of those is Utah. And we get one on Saturday.
- 21:39Speaker 1: The only other state that could give us a top
- 21:41Speaker 1: 10 matchup with schools in their own States right now
- 21:43Speaker 1: is Indiana. Cause Indiana and Notre Dame are both in
- 21:47Speaker 1: the top 10. Like Florida can't do it right now.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Texas can't do it right now. California can't do it
- 21:52Speaker 1: right now. College football is weird in that this year is,
- 21:57Speaker 1: I'm going to make the argument.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Utah and Indiana are the top states in the land.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:04Speaker 4: You know, a lot of, good ball being played in
- 22:08Speaker 4: both of those states.
- 22:10Speaker 2: We'll see how it.
- 22:11Speaker 4: All essentially ends up, you know, but it's been really,
- 22:15Speaker 4: really cool, you know, essentially be, you know, back a
- 22:18Speaker 4: part of the program in some degree and watching the
- 22:22Speaker 4: program have absolutely one of the best seasons so far
- 22:26Speaker 4: with a lot more to go and then getting.
- 22:28Speaker 2: To the playoffs and stuff like that.
- 22:30Speaker 4: So, you know, it's great. You don't take these things
- 22:32Speaker 4: for granted. It's really hard to be undefeated. It's really,
- 22:36Speaker 4: really hard to do that, especially when a lot of
- 22:38Speaker 4: good football is being played around the country. So yeah,
- 22:42Speaker 4: I would say, you know, both of these states are
- 22:44Speaker 4: definitely doing some really good things and just got to
- 22:47Speaker 4: keep it going.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Last thing before I let you go as someone who
- 22:50Speaker 1: was not raised with this rivalry, right? Like how long,
- 22:54Speaker 1: when we were on campus, did it take before you
- 22:57Speaker 1: realized before you started to feel like, How much Utah
- 23:01Speaker 1: versus BYU meant?
- 23:03Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, my freshman year was, you know,
- 23:06Speaker 4: after that game, I kind of realized that, you know,
- 23:09Speaker 4: obviously growing up in Miami and, yeah, Miami, Florida State,
- 23:13Speaker 4: Florida State, Florida, Miami, Florida, right?
- 23:16Speaker 2: All those rival games.
- 23:19Speaker 4: Are, you know, huge, and you learn about those. But
- 23:22Speaker 4: it's different because, you know, you haven't played for those.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Schools or anything of that nature, but you see the
- 23:28Speaker 2: videos everywhere.
- 23:29Speaker 4: And, you know, they would essentially show the highlights of
- 23:33Speaker 4: Utah versus BYU every single day, the fight song of
- 23:37Speaker 4: BYU every single day, the monitors all across the facility.
- 23:41Speaker 4: It's just the highlights, right, of, you know, it's essentially Utah.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Just dominating BYU.
- 23:46Speaker 4: And, you know, once you became, I became the starter coach,
- 23:51Speaker 4: that's when it definitely started to mean a lot more.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Like I said, that's when I realized that this is something.
- 23:59Speaker 4: It's not just a game. It's something that I coach
- 24:03Speaker 4: high school football now, so little kids that are BYU
- 24:06Speaker 4: fans and things like that, everybody talks about it.
- 24:11Speaker 2: It's really cool to be on just the winning.
- 24:15Speaker 4: Side of the rivalry, but it's a huge thing that
- 24:18Speaker 4: you never want to never not win versus BYU. You
- 24:22Speaker 4: never want to be that class, that group. I've played
- 24:25Speaker 4: with guys that played at Michigan and Ohio State and
- 24:28Speaker 4: played with some guys that they just never beat. Michigan
- 24:33Speaker 4: or Ohio state. And, you know, that eats at them.
- 24:36Speaker 4: They can be, you know, 30, 32, and it's a
- 24:40Speaker 4: big deal. So hopefully our guys who've done so many
- 24:44Speaker 4: good things for the program and, and Dan peer and
- 24:47Speaker 4: Parker and so many more on both sides of the ball,
- 24:51Speaker 4: they can, you know, nobody knows what the future looks like,
- 24:54Speaker 4: but hopefully those guys are, never have to say they
- 24:57Speaker 4: never beat BYU because that would be something that definitely
- 25:02Speaker 4: will bother them a little bit.
- 25:04Speaker 1: We're going to hope that doesn't happen for any of
- 25:06Speaker 1: these guys on the roster.
- 25:08Speaker 3: Zach, we'll see you up there on Saturday morning. Appreciate
- 25:10Speaker 3: your time. Thank you, sir.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Absolutely, guys. Take care.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Zach Moss, 266 yards against BYU in his career and
- 25:17Speaker 1: 187 in the final year. Really, really put the Emphasis
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