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All-Star Week Recap · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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  presented by Chinook Cedry this episode 552, I'll be your host,
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  Kyle Corwin. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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  Reyes. Nate.
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  KC How are we, pal? Have you, have you recovered?
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  Yeah, sort of. Not really.
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  Not entirely. I'm not as tired today as I
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  thought I would be after spending almost a week in
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  Atlanta. I hope no one's listening from
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  work. I took a nap in my car for like
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  15 minutes today because I just. Couldn't Are you not entitled to
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  a lunch break? Not when you have that many
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  emails to come back to. Wow wow wow wow.
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  That's the only downside to I. I understand the structure of
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  the way they do it, but like that's the only downside to a
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  Home Run Derby in in an All Star game being on a Monday and
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  Tuesday respectively like. Correct.
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  I I I think that needs to be looked at and and considered a
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  possible adjustment. Weird days, man Yeah, I mean,
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  I'm I'm all for having on a weekend, but it's it's really
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  just the fact that the you have the you have the build up to the
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  All Star events or Home Run Derby All Star week.
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  I should say. You have the build up.
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  But the weird thing is that there is that there's games
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  still going on. Yeah, like over the the weekend
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  leading up to it and then you roll right into the Derby and
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  it's just there and then I don't know, man, it's it was a lot.
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  But All in all, a good week down in Atlanta.
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  It was I I have to say it was it was different seeing it in
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  person because at least for me, you, you've been to an All Star
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  week before. This was my first time.
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  It's, I feel like it's one thing to, to sort of, you know,
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  comment on it or, or, or break it down from the, the
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  perspective of watching it through the TV, but being there
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  in person is completely different.
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  Like even on the, on the flight back from Atlanta, I'm watching
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  the broadcast of the Derby and the, the All Star game on the
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  TV, like on the back of the headrest in the plane.
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  And I'm like, we didn't see any of this.
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  And that's not the product that I saw in person.
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  Like we talked about, we talked about on our live streams down
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  there. The the Home Run Derby is, is
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  almost, I, I won't say unwatchable, but the product
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  like I like I was saying, just completely different.
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  And to your point, it's it's not built for TV.
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  At least in the current. Format that it's it's in.
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  It's an in person event. It's just the way it's.
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  It's what it's structured for, especially with the the timer,
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  especially with like you know the we talked about it, I think
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  last part episode like the when Bryce won it in 2017, it was
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  20/17/2019. 18. 18 when it was in DC and they they had the
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  whole like it was fairly new with the timer, but like you had
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  the whole wait until the ball lands before the next pitch can
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  come. That allow.
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  I think that was for TV. Like that was in mind of the,
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  the production side of things. I think when we ditched that and
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  now it's like completely out of the picture and balls are just
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  flying. Like it was so cool in person,
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  especially the angle that we had.
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  We were just like, oh, like you're like pointing out a ball
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  that's like half. You're not seeing it off the
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  bat. Like it's just halfway on this
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  trajectory of being launched and by the time it lands, you're
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  like 00. And there's just like going,
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  dude, just going everywhere. You'll see it in the vlog, which
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  by the way, I'm only I'm 10. I've made my first round of
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  cuts, so it's possible that there's still more work to be
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  done, but I'm 10 minutes into this vlog from this week and we
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  haven't. I haven't even gotten to the
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  village on Sunday. Wow.
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  So it's going to. Be like a good two hours.
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  It's yeah, full length move full length motion picture.
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  No, but you'll see it in the vlog.
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  I I caught the reaction of the O'Neill Cruz 513 Homer.
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  I caught I, I wasn't, I didn't have my phone on the 2nd that he
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  hit it, but I, I had it up early enough to, to catch a reaction
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  and you're like, whoa, 513 And then like as soon as you finish
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  saying it, you're, you're back, You're like.
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  Oh. Like it was just one after the
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  other. And I, I actually, it was funny
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  enough, I saw a video today where it was like, or I think it
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  was like a TikTok where it was like the Home Run Derby back
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  then. And it was like the guy kind of
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  like, you know, loosen up swinging balls like 20 rows
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  deep, That's next one. And then it's like the Home Run
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  Derby now. And it it was just him, like
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  he's like possibly non-stop and he couldn't even catch a breath.
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  So I'm like it. It speaks to, like we said to
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  the fact product in person versus on TV.
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  But here's and we can get into like we can get into like
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  whether it needs to be adjusted or fixed.
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  I think you're in the camp that like, let's just go back to 10
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  outs. I think that is I, I think that
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  is the the right move. However, I think the, the takes
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  need to be more limited because that that is the problem.
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  That was the problem back in the day was that like it's in
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  between home runs and the guys having 3 or 4 takes after each
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  swing. I can see why you know, it's
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  taking 1/2 hour, 45 minutes to get through 1 hitter.
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  That's a problem. If there's a way to get back to
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  the outs, allow production on TV to keep up.
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  And someone made a really good point in our group chat where
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  like you get to see like when you're watching golf, like you
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  have that tracker behind, like there's a camera behind the guy
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  teeing off. There's a tracker and then
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  you're seeing a camera that can follow a small golf ball, by the
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  way, and typically a pretty plain sky because it's so high
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  and it's above the tree line. There's not really anything else
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  to see as far as a backdrop goes, but somehow golf has
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  figured out how to do that. I don't think it's impossible
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  for us to adjust that. Maybe it had it.
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  It requires it to no longer be on ESPN.
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  Maybe that's a different thread that we don't need to pull out
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  right now, but there's ways around doing that.
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  I think the biggest thing is like how long a specific round
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  can take and I think it comes down to limiting the takes and
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  just going on 10 oz. No more of this timer stuff.
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  There's a reason why we're seeing guys kind of like fizzle
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  out. I don't know, just me.
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  Either way, I don't mean to like trash it because again, like
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  it's sick in person. Way better in person way better
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  yeah calve some of. Your whole life, like, you know
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  that? You know what it looks like on
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  TV? Yeah.
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  Being in person, it's like it's that quick.
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  It's that easy to realize it's way better.
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  Agreed, Cal Raleigh with the can we just call it like a cut?
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  Can we just call it what it is? It's a controversial Derby win.
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  It is. It felt that way in person
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  because there was no explanation. 0 explanation.
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  Not until Greg Amsinger, who by the way, I guess you're not
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  hearing it on the broadcast, but Greg M singer was emceeing it to
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  the crowd and we're not hearing it until it's the semi finals.
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  You're just looking up the screen.
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  You're like, why is Raleigh up there and Rooker not?
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  As you looked at me and asked me that very question, you're like,
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  what is going on here? Turns out we we we later find
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  out that Raleigh's longest Homer, which apparently is the
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  tiebreaker, went further by 8. Let me get my let me get my my
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  decimal point spaces correct, not tenths 8 hundredths of an
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  inch. What is that?
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  Come on, if I've ever seen we, we'll break out the tinfoil hats
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  every now and then on this show. Might have to do it for this.
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  I mean, you want to talk about pushing your Golden Boy to the
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  finals? And I have nothing against Cal
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  Riley. In fact, any like I think it I
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  think it's funny because I get this like All in all, this has
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  no impact on the game whatsoever.
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  I, I personally just think it's funny how Major League Baseball
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  was probably under the assumption that they weren't
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  going to have to pull any tricks like this.
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  They're going well. Let's just hope our guy Cal does
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  what he does and we won't have to, we won't have to worry about
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  a, a tie breaker or swing off or any variation of that.
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  And they're going well. We can't do a swing off for
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  which reason? For for what reasons?
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  I don't know. First of all, like why?
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  Why can we not? We're we're we're doing a swing
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  off for the game. Yeah.
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  We can't have an actual like Home Run Derby swing off in the
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  Home Run Derby. 3 swings man. I don't know but then they're
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  you just know they're scrambling going how can we pull this off?
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  They said eight tenths, 8 hundredths of an inch go with
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  that. So moves on Cal Raleigh.
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  What A and and yeah, and and in the chat, there's no way to
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  measure that. I'm I think they were I think
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  Brent Rooker was even talking about how like there's margin
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  for error like this stat cast thing, as great as it is, as as
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  much data, it's not going to you're telling me it's down to
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  an 8 hundredths of an inch Crazy.
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  It's just stupid, man. What was felt for Rooker?
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  I really did. I.
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  Really did too, man he got man, man got robbed, man got robbed.
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  What was the most impressive part about the Derby for you,
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  whether it was a specific, I mean, I guess the easy answer is
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  the 513 O'Neill Cruz, but was there anything beyond that
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  besides that, that that really stood out to you?
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  I felt good about my junior Caminero takes the last few
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  weeks or ever since we found out that he was in it because he did
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  like he really did come onto the scene.
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  You know, obviously being in the finals against Raleigh, like I I
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  think that was pretty cool, but I don't think people realize
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  that like maybe they talked about on the broadcast, but like
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  truest is not to left, left center is is even down the line.
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  Left is not that easy to do. Then I get the balls were
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  probably juiced, but I mean baseballs are going.
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  Not for jazz. Not for yeah, jazz.
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  That's another. That was the most impressive.
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  Feat for me by the way, like that was the most impressive
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  display. Well, you went, you went to the
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  bathroom. Well timed bathroom.
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  Intentionally. Yeah.
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  Well timed bathroom visit that. That's true.
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  That could be the most impressive thing.
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  I told you. He had more foul balls hit
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  behind him. Not like yank down the line,
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  like foul, foul back as if you're fighting with two
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  strikes. Then he did total home runs,
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  which is, you got to think, pretty difficult to do.
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  But Nate, don't forget he. Didn't want to lose the swing,
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  man. He gets paid a lot more than we
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  do. He wants us to hear Jazz, wants
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  us to know that, so don't forget that.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean, I said it during or
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  during the, I don't know if you got it for the vlog.
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  We talked about it when we were in our seats.
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  I don't remember if I was miked up for it, but the Dominicans
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  have mastered the time out. Crazy.
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  Dude, and and I don't think it, it's really talked about how
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  solid the timeouts are. Anytime a Dominican participant
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  needs one in the middle of a round, he's got the whole squad.
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  He's got someone on the towel fanning him down, someone on the
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  drink, someone with the pep talk, someone like patting his
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  neck, patting his face like it's and then you see like Rooker and
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  he's got like one guy that comes up to him and they're like gives
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  him nooks. It's like, hey, keep it up.
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  I don't even think he doesn't even know the guy like the kid
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  or the guy that comes up to him. It's just some stranger.
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  But with the Dominicans, to your point, it's have you ever seen
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  synchronized swimming, folks? That's what it's like.
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  That's what it is. Everybody has a role, everybody
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  knows what they're supposed to do, and when they come together
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  and execute, it's art. Yeah.
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  And they're they all have drip like Tatis always has drip, not
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  even participating. So yeah, that was probably be my
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  most impressive, I would say the Dominican timeouts.
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  Trying to think anything. Any other thoughts?
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  This this last week has been a whirlwind.
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  Has it? Was there any any other
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  observations from the Derby itself?
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  My guy, My guy. James Wood I was feeling real
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  good about James Wood after his first round and then I think the
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  immediate. Exit.
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  He was done. The I think at the earliest
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  point he technically could be that's correct.
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  Eliminated was was eliminated. So that was a real dagger for
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  for my guy James Wood. That has no impact on how I view
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  him. He's still he's still a freaks,
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  still a a Prince to me. Not not sweet young Prince, but.
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  Aprons. Yeah.
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  One thing I think I I noticed being in person more so than I
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  remember ever recognizing on TV and we kind of talked about it.
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  Those moneyballs are not very easy to see.
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  No, dude. They're like, I think that would
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  really mess with me as a hitter to go from, you know, pearly
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  white, that's all you see your entire life to hitting to this
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  like kind of like semi dark pink in white ball that especially
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  with like James Wood. James Wood was going when like
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  at like sunset and it was this weird, like still kind of bright
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  from the sun, but like not it's not dark enough for the lights
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  to really factor in yet. I would struggle with that.
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  I really would. And these coaches are zipping it
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  in, man. They're not lobbing it up.
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  Yeah, I mean, we saw, we we saw the balls like in the team shot.
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  I mean, you're you're kind of sitting there looking at them.
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  You know, they're right there in front of you and I'm like at I
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  don't, I don't. Half the ball is like if you've
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  ever, if you've ever, ever played baseball or, or were up
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  close enough to track a baseball, if you have half of
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  the ball, that's like a, that's almost a training drill or, or
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  some sort of hitting exercise that you would do in the
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  offseason in the cage. Like I, I, I guess I understand
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  that there's maybe it's a multi faceted thing.
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  Like maybe you're, you're trying to signify that it is indeed the
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  bonus round, but also make it slightly more difficult.
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  I don't know if that was the intent of behind that at all,
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  but it's possible, you know, like we're you're getting a
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  bonus round, but it's not going to be quite as easy.
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  It talked about the O'Neill Cruz thing.
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  There were some Byron Buxton, I think surprised some people.
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  Matt Olson not being able to make it as deep as I'm sure he
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  or the fans would have flaked. That was a little bit of a
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  bummer. Big standing O huge.
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  Standing O almost it it was impressive enough that it kind
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  it almost said to me that like, wow, maybe the maybe they're OK
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  with with Matty O they're maybe they're more OK with Maddie O
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  replacing a Cunha than I originally had thought, because
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  when I thought that news I like I'm not a Braves guy and I was I
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  was distraught. I was like, man, I was really
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  hoping we could see Ronnie. Oh.
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  That just would have been electric.
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  Yeah, but you know, Maddie O slots in, they give him the
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  standing O like you said and and they were really behind their
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  guy. They were in that like on top of
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  that, like I know he's not having like the best year
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  either. And I've I've at least from my
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  perspective, I thought there was a lot of frustration around
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  Mario lately, but no crazy support.
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  We did, you know, a bunch of the pre pre Derby interviews and
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  like there were a lot of people picking him as the winner.
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  So yeah, it was good to see. The All Star game Switch gears
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  here talk the All Star game, a historic All Star game.
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  I'll just start off by saying that first ever swing off we've
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  seen to to break the tie, which real quick it I hadn't
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  considered it until I saw the final score on the bottom line
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  of ESPN when I was watching it the next day on the back of the
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  plain headrest. Like I said, did not occur to me
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  that they're just given a run. The winning team is just given a
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  singular run and I, I. Saw that too.
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  I guess I could have I could have assumed as much, but I just
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  I was like, I hadn't considered how you actually score that.
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  Like does it go in the book as a tie?
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  And then there's like a little asterisks like like I don't I
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  don't understand what what goes into that.
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  But All Star game, like I said, historic.
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  The event itself was great. The fly over the the Hank Aaron
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  tribute. Seeing that in person was like,
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  I, you know, I'll be honest, I'm not going to sit there and like
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  be looking over at you like, oh, how's he holding up?
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  But I even I was I had to kind of do one of those like take a
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  deep breath and kind of just look away, look off into the
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  distance for just a second, sort of reco, you know, collect
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  myself because they showed his wife.
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  That. And I'm like, I, I can't do
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  this. I'm again, not, not a Braves
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  guy, but as a baseball fan, to see the tribute that they rolled
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  out there and then to immediately cut to his wife, I'm
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  like, Oh my gosh, man, I'm going to I'm going to lose.
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  It here yeah what a what an insanely cool tribute.
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  I don't remember. I don't, I don't think I've ever
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  seen a tribute like that in person And like to see cause for
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  those who like may have not known, like we watched the, it
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  looks like maybe it was just done on TV.
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  Like kind of how they do like the the graphic, like on the
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  back of a mound for advertising where like obviously it's not on
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  the mound, but it is showing up on TV.
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  No, this was like actual projector lights on the field
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  that we got to watch. So sick, so sick.
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  Like such a cool way of going about it and obviously got
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  Scully, you know, calling it and like it.
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  It was just what an amazing cool thing, man.
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  And the firework and like the footprints as he's as like it's
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  timed up as he's jogging around the bases.
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  Like really, really cool, really cool.
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  I'm playing with a chip clip by the way.
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  It's all right. I got a pin over here.
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  A little, little fidget. Yeah, but yeah, man, what a oh,
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  and Speaking of noises, by the way, if hello, if you if you
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  hear a little rattle and just don't mind me, just my my
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  Whataburger chain snagged in Atlanta.
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  Shout out, shout out, hustle sport, shout out our guy JB,
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  Bobby Witts, AJB shout out for the invite to the the brunch
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  during All Star week. That was exceptional.
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  Really, really cool. Got to connect with a a lot of
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  good folks there. Sponsored.
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  The event was sponsored by Whataburger, hence the the
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  Whataburger chain. So I'm going to, you know, you
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  know me. Keep the lid behind me.
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  Man that hat. Is how about this?
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  Yeah, man, right here. I'll pull it up.
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  And the Whataburger. Hat Yeah, yeah, this thing is
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  gangster bro. That thing is nice dude.
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  This hat is unbelievable. This is the coolest hat ever.
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  I mean, I'm a Whataburger when it comes to Whataburger in and
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  out. You know, I'm I'm leaning
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  Whataburger 10 times out of 10. Twice on Sunday now it's like
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  it's not even close. In and out don't do nothing.
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  In and out don't have a chain like that, bro, get out of here.
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  But yeah, the game itself. The we mentioned the tribute,
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  the the swing off was really cool to see in person.
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  Yeah, and. Getting on that swing off by the
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  way, because there was a lot of obvious argument.
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  Can I insert something that's very relevant here real quick in
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  the chat? Jake says.
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  Was shocked at how many people left the game early.
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  True. So you had you had a lot of fans
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  leaving early. I think it was 6, nothing at at
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  the widest margin and then they come back to tie it up and then
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  we get this swing off. I think it was like it was like
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  6-2 and like the 7th or something like that.
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  And then I think Matty O had like one last AB and then after
• 22:54
  I think he punched out. No disrespect but I think he
• 22:56
  punched out and the stadium just cleared out.
• 23:01
  Yeah, that's that's what it was. They were waiting for that last
• 23:03
  day be. Yeah, and I'm talking like way
• 23:07
  cleared out. And you and I were kind of
• 23:10
  walking around. We were thinking about like, you
• 23:11
  know, trying to find a new perspective.
• 23:13
  We were looking down and like Chophouse looked wide open.
• 23:17
  So we're like, let's just go down there, man, and look sick
• 23:20
  because they had to open up all the doors.
• 23:23
  But yeah, pretty, pretty strange that amount of people cleared
• 23:26
  out, to be fair. I mean, you know, it is a, it is
• 23:29
  a Tuesday night. I guess a lot of work to get, I
• 23:32
  don't know, it's just the money you spend to get in there
• 23:35
  that's. What I'm saying, dude, and
• 23:36
  that's what I that's what I I said I was I was like, I wish I
• 23:41
  had the kind of money where you could pay to get into the All
• 23:44
  Star game and then leave to go hit up the bars after the game
• 23:48
  like it's should a typical Thursday night.
• 23:50
  Strange, crazy when in regards to the swing off because like
• 23:54
  there's been a lot of back and forth, there's been a lot of
• 23:57
  comments and it's like, why not have your dudes in there?
• 24:00
  Like, you know what are why is it ending with Jose Aranda
• 24:03
  again, no disrespect, but like he's clearly not.
• 24:08
  Yeah, this is decided. This was decided before the
• 24:11
  game. These three guys for both teams
• 24:13
  were already picked out. It was already decided because
• 24:17
  it had to be reserves. Oh, I'm not going to lie, this
• 24:20
  is this is first time hearing this.
• 24:22
  I thought part of part of the equation here was that certain
• 24:25
  guys were were hitting the showers.
• 24:27
  Early it didn't have to be reserves, but like, yeah, those
• 24:29
  guys are gone. Like the second you had your
• 24:32
  show Haze and and your judges and and your guys that like get
• 24:35
  their 2-3 ABS, they're rolling out, dude, they're gone.
• 24:40
  They're not even there. Like you didn't see them
• 24:43
  celebrate after they won because they weren't there.
• 24:47
  And I that's kind of the whole point of them selecting guys
• 24:52
  that are like, they know we're going to stick around.
• 24:53
  They know they're going to be reserves.
• 24:55
  They're not starters. So I don't know.
• 25:02
  I, I kind of like it. I get that.
• 25:05
  Like, you want the biggest, most exciting aspect of the swing off
• 25:10
  and like this new rule, like to be revolving around our top
• 25:14
  guys. But like, are you expecting
• 25:18
  Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani to not shower, stay in the dugout
• 25:21
  for the next 2 1/2 hours hoping for a tie so that they can be
• 25:26
  ready for a swing off after being chilling for a couple
• 25:29
  hours, like cold for a couple hours?
• 25:31
  Like there's no way of, of that operating that way.
• 25:35
  So fact that it happened this way is what it is.
• 25:38
  And I, I think that's the, the, the structure of it.
• 25:42
  But I, I loved it. It was immediately exciting.
• 25:45
  The second we saw the L screen come out, we were like, oh snap,
• 25:49
  it's it's going down. Because I'm sure in the
• 25:51
  broadcaster we're like, yo, just a heads up, if it's tied, this
• 25:56
  is what we have people inside. We were like, what's happening?
• 25:59
  I had no idea. Yeah, I think even if we had
• 26:01
  heard about it leading up to it, Pi think people have just
• 26:04
  forgotten about it because there was a collective there.
• 26:07
  Yeah, there was like a collective understanding almost
• 26:12
  like at the same time where people were realizing what was
• 26:15
  about to happen. And so people like, we were
• 26:17
  already staying in the chop house.
• 26:20
  And then we start and we're talking to this guy to our left.
• 26:22
  And I look over at him and I'm like, let's hold our ground here
• 26:25
  because you just know, like, I think, I think somebody, even
• 26:29
  you or the guy, it was like, yeah, people are going to start
• 26:31
  coming out like cockroaches and trying to fill in the gaps.
• 26:34
  And sure enough, people started making their way over.
• 26:36
  And then they closed the doors of the Chop House, I guess with
• 26:38
  liability reasons, but. That's crazy.
• 26:40
  That pissed me off pretty bad. I don't understand that at all.
• 26:44
  But yeah, then we had to kind of scramble, go find a new spot.
• 26:49
  But yeah, man, I, I don't know, At least in person.
• 26:52
  I don't know if it felt as exciting on TV, but like in
• 26:55
  person it, it, it brought it right back to life.
• 27:00
  Like everyone was like immediately into it and in on
• 27:05
  every swing and I liked it, man. Like that.
• 27:10
  I don't have any other. I don't have anything really bad
• 27:12
  to say about the whole structure of it.
• 27:14
  I really enjoyed it. My only concern is that there's
• 27:18
  going to be like, as you know, we process the swing off we as,
• 27:25
  as we look back on it and, and talk about it fondly.
• 27:29
  And then we revisit this conversation next year, should
• 27:32
  there be a tie. And the same, the same thing may
• 27:35
  happen that there's going to be a a growing conversation about
• 27:42
  should this be implemented into games that matter?
• 27:47
  And the answer to that is no, it's too gimmicky.
• 27:51
  Is this, is this a great way? And I can't remember if it was
• 27:54
  you or, or somebody that we talked to or maybe even, you
• 27:58
  know, on, on the radio or something.
• 28:00
  Somebody made the point that it, it's, it limits using up innings
• 28:11
  for guys who are, I mean, call like it is.
• 28:15
  I mean, they're making a commitment to be there.
• 28:17
  You know, they, they don't necessarily have to be there,
• 28:19
  but the ones that are made the decision to be there and, and
• 28:22
  they're going to offer the time and their energy and all that.
• 28:27
  You know, if, if this thing goes 15/16/17 innings, we're putting
• 28:32
  guys in a, a little bit of a jam and you're impacting the start
• 28:35
  to the unofficial second-half. If, if we let this thing go too
• 28:40
  deep. So to to look at this as an
• 28:44
  appropriate cap or finish to an exhibition, I think it's fair,
• 28:52
  but it it does not it it has no place in regular season or post
• 29:00
  season baseball. I.
• 29:03
  Don't know if I fully agree to be honest.
• 29:06
  I think, I think it should be kind of tiered in a way that I
• 29:16
  would say. I didn't see this coming, by the
• 29:19
  way. I mean, it's not like we're
• 29:22
  seeing a ton of 14/15/16 inning games, especially now, but I
• 29:27
  would see it. I could see something tiered
• 29:29
  where it's like, you know, let's play the 10th and 11th straight
• 29:33
  up and then like 12th and 13th with the ghost runner.
• 29:37
  And then at that point if we're still tied, let's go swing off.
• 29:43
  It's kind of like what hockey does.
• 29:45
  Hockey does the shootout during the regular season and then just
• 29:48
  straight up OT during the playoffs.
• 29:52
  I don't think it's something that needs to be implemented in
• 29:54
  the postseason in any way at all.
• 29:57
  Same with ghost runner, nothing like that.
• 29:59
  It should just be straight up baseball.
• 30:01
  But I get the argument of doing it for the regular season for
• 30:04
  the fact that like it's it's already pretty tough, especially
• 30:11
  when starters aren't going as long right now.
• 30:13
  And especially with like the number of bullpen arms that are
• 30:16
  going to be used and the fact that like it can really truly
• 30:19
  impact maybe the next two series after that.
• 30:24
  If you have a 141516 inning game.
• 30:28
  And I don't know that I I'm not going to I'm it's not a hill
• 30:35
  that I'm willing to die on, but I'll say just for the pure
• 30:38
  excitement of it. I don't hate it.
• 30:41
  I just don't know when it would be.
• 30:42
  I would love to see like give me 12 innings of regular baseball
• 30:47
  and then do it. Just get rid of the ghost runner
• 30:49
  in general, go 12 innings regular baseball.
• 30:53
  And then in the 13th, we got to swing off.
• 30:56
  That's an interesting question. Would you rather do away with
• 31:00
  ghost runners and have a swing off?
• 31:03
  I don't want it in the 10th. I don't want to swing off in the
• 31:05
  10th. I would rather have regular
• 31:07
  baseball for yes. I would rather get rid of the
• 31:10
  the ghost runner. Have regular baseball for like
• 31:13
  12 innings. No, no, I I hear you having
• 31:15
  like, like you said, like have it tiered, have like a, you
• 31:18
  know, a threshold you got to reach.
• 31:19
  I understand what I'm saying for the for those who are like, no,
• 31:22
  we can't have a swing off in regular season baseball.
• 31:25
  Would you rather do away with the ghost runner and have a
• 31:29
  swing off 1213 even 14 innings into the game, or would you have
• 31:37
  the ghost runner? Would you keep the ghost runner
• 31:39
  if you had to have one one or the other?
• 31:42
  That's an interesting question. I'd be curious to get people's
• 31:44
  takes on that because that's yeah.
• 31:46
  Cause 'cause reality of it is we're not going back to the
• 31:49
  baseball the way it was. We're we're not going back to a
• 31:52
  pre ghost hunter game. We're just not.
• 31:57
  So it's it's really kind. Of it just sucks that it happens
• 32:00
  right away. Choose the lesser of the two
• 32:02
  evils I. Guess and and maybe I'm super, I
• 32:04
  mean like my team sucks at it. If if it's very evident when
• 32:08
  teams are bad at extra innings baseball, then it just sucks to
• 32:12
  see games end that way. So but I think give these teams
• 32:17
  a better chance of winning straight up and then, you know,
• 32:22
  if you have, I'm saying, obviously I'd prefer regular
• 32:25
  season to I'd prefer regular baseball in general.
• 32:29
  Sure, nothing, I'd rather just have it happen.
• 32:33
  But if you have to have something to try and cut the
• 32:37
  game a little bit shorter in those crazy long inning, crazy X
• 32:41
  training games, I don't know. This is at least more exciting.
• 32:46
  I think it's more exciting than a ghost runner.
• 32:49
  Well, Speaking of changes real quick, because I, I want to get
• 32:52
  to a, a, a bigger point of discussion real quick.
• 32:56
  Your thoughts on seeing the ABS challenge system in person?
• 33:03
  Because I believe we saw it. We are at the game and it's hard
• 33:07
  to track every, you know, what's going on every pitch because you
• 33:09
  know, you and I are, are chatting it up.
• 33:10
  We're we're running to grab food this and that.
• 33:13
  But to my, to my knowledge, I think there was only two
• 33:18
  instances of it being challenged.
• 33:19
  Is that, is that correct? Yeah, I think right.
• 33:23
  In fact, I only saw one. And I, I asked you and you said
• 33:27
  2. So yeah, collectively, I think
• 33:30
  we only saw it twice. I don't know.
• 33:32
  I mean, it goes back to what we were saying about the the Rooker
• 33:35
  Cal Cal Raleigh thing of being like this short, like you're,
• 33:40
  you saw one of them call and it was like literally less than
• 33:43
  right quarter of an inch touching the strike zone.
• 33:46
  And you're just like, what are we like, how is it?
• 33:49
  How is it that exact? How is it possible for it to be
• 33:52
  that exact? I just it's hard to buy.
• 33:55
  Well, I can understand how you know if if you're trying if if
• 33:59
  the if the goal if. The aim is to have the correct
• 34:01
  call even if the margin of error exists with the computer ABS
• 34:05
  system. I can understand the argument
• 34:08
  for well, it may not be perfect, but it's going to be better out
• 34:12
  of 100 instances than what the umpire is going to give you.
• 34:16
  Out of the 100, I think what sucked is that it was like I, I
• 34:19
  think one of them was in a big moment in an inning that got out
• 34:22
  of a jam and the inning ended that way, which I think sucked.
• 34:27
  And they just. Walk off and they go into the
• 34:29
  dugouts and you're just like it's, it's kind of like the the
• 34:32
  walk offs where it's like a play at the plate.
• 34:35
  We can't quite celebrate fully because we have to review it.
• 34:38
  Like it just, it kills the moment for me then, yeah.
• 34:43
  And I think I said that to you, I, I was like, you know, you
• 34:46
  could be looking very realistically like this is not
• 34:49
  a, not a pipe dream, not far fetched.
• 34:51
  You could very realistically be looking at an instance where
• 34:55
  you've got a pitch sort of like what you said, you've got a
• 34:57
  pitch to end the game even like if this, if this ends up in post
• 35:02
  season baseball, if it ends up in the World Series, you could
• 35:04
  look, you could there's a a scenario where a World Series
• 35:08
  could end with everyone collectively in the baseball
• 35:12
  world waiting on an ABS review. That sounds terrible.
• 35:17
  Which again, I like, it's very cherry picked, very nuanced.
• 35:21
  I I understand that, but absolutely it's a possibility
• 35:24
  because you could, you could challenge the call and it is
• 35:29
  what it is. Anyway, enough about the ABS
• 35:33
  because it, we, I don't think the sample size was large enough
• 35:36
  to really have a, a true feel for it or to get a true feel for
• 35:40
  it. But let's talk about the
• 35:43
  question that I think is making the rounds right now.
• 35:45
  And it, it, it typically does this time of year.
• 35:49
  Is the MLB All Star game the best All Star game in sports?
• 35:54
  It's not even close. I'm going to preface this right
• 35:57
  now because my tweet, you know, I don't, I'm not, I'm not going
• 36:00
  to. Like some, he caught some fire.
• 36:02
  I'm not going to pump my tires here, but my, my tweet has let
• 36:06
  me check. Well, I'm not intentionally
• 36:10
  trying to pump my number my, my tires here, but I'm just trying
• 36:12
  to give context to what I'm saying.
• 36:14
  It's been seen by 2.4 million people.
• 36:16
  My tweet was All Star game viewership by sport MLB 7.2
• 36:22
  million followers. We just, we just got that.
• 36:26
  Little down from last year, by the way.
• 36:27
  Little down, but still comparatively.
• 36:30
  Than everything else. 7.2 for MLBNBA. 4.7 million NFL, 4.7
• 36:37
  million NHL dumped their All Star game.
• 36:40
  And then I said baseball folks, and boy, did I hit a nerve with
• 36:44
  the hockey Bros because they came at me guns blazing, telling
• 36:51
  me how great, how great the Four Nations face off was.
• 36:58
  And boy did I throw it right back at him, telling him how
• 37:01
  much I love the Four Nations face off.
• 37:04
  They didn't mix next week, but my entire point and that they
• 37:09
  could not get this through their skulls is that it's not an All
• 37:13
  Star game. The NHL had an All Star game as
• 37:17
  we know it as sports fans. They no longer have an All Star
• 37:21
  game because they did away with it because it was unwatchable.
• 37:25
  And what did they do? They replaced it with a
• 37:28
  tournament style event called the Four Nations Face Off that
• 37:33
  now serves in place of their All Star game event.
• 37:37
  So they don't have an All Star game that's relevant to this
• 37:40
  conversation. Yeah, they're.
• 37:41
  Almost like eliminated from contention.
• 37:46
  I will follow up that by reiterating the fact that I
• 37:52
  absolutely loved watching the Four Nations face off.
• 37:56
  I really only, I really only get into I, yeah, I get into hockey
• 37:59
  like in the post, like in the playoffs and then stuff like
• 38:03
  that and the Olympics and then this.
• 38:04
  Like there was like a mini Olympics.
• 38:06
  It was sick. Very high stakes hockey.
• 38:09
  I, I love it. I, I'm not going to sit here and
• 38:11
  pretend like I watch regular season hockey.
• 38:13
  I don't. But the Four Nations face off
• 38:16
  was incredible. But it's not an All Star game.
• 38:21
  Correct. With that said, that leaves
• 38:24
  Major League Baseball as having, I think just subjectively,
• 38:29
  subjectively and objectively the best All Star game in.
• 38:34
  Sports, No, I mean the NFL, the Pro Bowl is is basically two
• 38:39
  hand touch at this point. And it's like no one wants to
• 38:42
  they just put their bodies on a line for for months and like,
• 38:48
  why would we go down to Hawaii and risk it again?
• 38:51
  You know what I mean? Like let's just enjoy the trip
• 38:53
  with the family and not get hurt.
• 38:55
  So which I can't blame, like I can't blame the players for
• 38:58
  that. The NBA, they don't play defense
• 39:04
  every year. Now it's like 135 to 132 at the
• 39:07
  end of no, that's. That's regular season basketball
• 39:10
  now. I don't know if you've seen it's
• 39:11
  closer. I think the all the NBA All Star
• 39:13
  games go up to 60. They push like 200 points.
• 39:16
  It's stupid, man. It's crazy.
• 39:19
  There's no defense there. There's there's just the aspect
• 39:24
  of baseball. And shout out Ryan Ripken,
• 39:26
  because on his podcast he was talking about this.
• 39:28
  You can't fake throwing 100. You can't fake trying to hit
• 39:33
  100. It has to be done with maximum
• 39:37
  effort. It has to be done with what
• 39:39
  we're used to seeing out of our players during the regular
• 39:43
  season. There's no way of faking it.
• 39:46
  You can't fake play defense. You can't fake hit.
• 39:50
  This is full speed because that's the only way we know how
• 39:52
  to play. And you're not seeing anyone up
• 39:56
  there trying to lob it. I mean, you had Clayton Kershaw
• 39:59
  with a mic on saying he's about to say here comes the cheese and
• 40:03
  it's 89 because that's his Max effort.
• 40:05
  You know what I mean? Before that.
• 40:08
  Oh yeah, it's Paul Skeens at one O 2.
• 40:10
  Like it's maximum effort because that's the only way you know how
• 40:16
  to play baseball. It's the only way it works.
• 40:19
  Of course it's the best. Of course it's it's it's, it's
• 40:23
  not even close. Of the major sports, I would put
• 40:29
  hockey second, even though it probably shouldn't even be in in
• 40:35
  in contention. Basketball 3rd and football the
• 40:39
  Pro Bowl last dead last. I think the the games are kind
• 40:46
  of cool where they're like, you know, playing dodgeball and
• 40:49
  stuff and like you kind of see like their athleticism of what
• 40:52
  it looks like doing other things outside of football.
• 40:54
  But like I'm still not tuning in and watching that.
• 40:59
  It's ours. And it I don't care about if
• 41:02
  it's the only sport on during that time.
• 41:06
  I don't care. You could put all the other
• 41:08
  sports on at the same time. Ours is still better.
• 41:11
  Exactly that's that was another point that kept getting brought
• 41:14
  up is like, well, of course it leads in viewership is the only
• 41:16
  thing on. I'm like, this isn't 1960 when
• 41:19
  there's only three like broadcast networks on like we,
• 41:23
  we're we don't have three channels that we're choosing
• 41:25
  between. You could literally do anything
• 41:28
  you want in today's day and age. Like you, you don't have to
• 41:33
  watch the singular sporting event that's on.
• 41:35
  You can go do other stuff. You can take a walk, you can go
• 41:39
  fishing, you can eat a snack. You can take a nap.
• 41:43
  You can literally do whatever you want.
• 41:45
  You could go to the bathroom, you don't have to watch
• 41:48
  baseball. So that that conversation makes
• 41:51
  zero sense to me. Quite literally zero sense to
• 41:54
  me. And Nate's getting more work
• 41:55
  emails. So we should probably, we should
• 41:58
  probably wrap it. No, we actually, we, we do need
• 42:01
  to wrap it. We're on a little bit of short
• 42:02
  of a little time crunch here. So why don't you just make sure
• 42:06
  we got a recap? Thoughts in there?
• 42:08
  My charger turned off hold. On all right, got our thoughts
• 42:15
  on the on the Home Run Derby. We're back.
• 42:18
  So is your e-mail. We're we covered covered our
• 42:23
  thoughts on the Derby, at least the the you know, the heavy
• 42:26
  hitters. I'm sure we missed some things,
• 42:28
  but All in all, I mean you guys watch it.
• 42:30
  If if you're listening, you're watching you watched it.
• 42:34
  I think we covered the the main points of discussion here, but
• 42:39
  regarding the trip, I know there's folks that that are
• 42:41
  going to want to hear about the trip and, and we may, we, we may
• 42:45
  cover that in the next part if we think of it or if you know,
• 42:48
  lends itself to the conversation, But you'll get the
• 42:52
  full, you'll get the full experience with the vlog that's
• 42:54
  coming. Like I said, I'm.
• 42:56
  Genuinely give, give that, give that a look, give that a look.
• 43:00
  Kyle does a good job of editing and putting it together and it's
• 43:03
  like there's just two hours behind the scenes.
• 43:07
  Hopefully fun nonsense. It's not actually going to be a
• 43:11
  full motion picture, but it's going to be.
• 43:13
  It's going to be an hour and a half.
• 43:14
  No, not even an hour and a half. That was completely joking.
• 43:18
  It's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be good
• 43:19
  though. It's going to be good.
• 43:20
  It's going to have a lot, lot packed in there.
• 43:22
  I've already cut out a lot of stuff that I didn't want to, but
• 43:25
  you know, for the sake of sanity while you're watching it, I just
• 43:28
  want to make sure you get the the main points.
• 43:30
  But All in all, great week, great All Star week.
• 43:36
  Maybe we'll be at next year's in Philly, who knows, Time will
• 43:38
  tell, but but other than that, that's all I got.
• 43:45
  You guys know the drill, don't go chasing curveballs.
• 43:48
  We love you all, and as always, we're looking forward to talking
• 43:51
  more baseball with you guys soon.
• 43:53
  Until next time, stay filthy.