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EP362: Julie Condliffe - Unbreakable · Respark Your Life

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  Speaker 1: Where am I supposed to go now that I've lost everything?
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  Speaker 1: I am going to evolve into a better version of myself,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm going to make a difference for the next person.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, this is Raymond Aaron, New York Times top 10 bestselling author, bringing you Respark
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  Speaker 3: Yes, this is Raymond Aaron, but you know me for gosh sakes. You know that I sometimes
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  Speaker 3: bring you my world famous friends, but what I love bringing you is stealth wisdom that
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  Speaker 3: you'd never find out about on your own.
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  Speaker 3: And who is it this time?
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  Speaker 3: It's Julie Condliff, a former lawyer, and she's going to reveal the power of embracing
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  Speaker 3: transformation and creativity to inspire you to elevate your career.
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  Speaker 3: You thought I was going to say elevate your life, didn't you?
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  Speaker 3: Elevate your career.
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  Speaker 3: Her innovation and resilience are essential now as you, like many, seek purposeful paths
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  Speaker 3: amid vast societal and job market changes.
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  Speaker 3: And she's the master who's going to bring it to you.
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  Speaker 3: So Julie, are you here?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, no pressure at all, Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: Great introduction.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 3: My intro.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You have to live up to it, but I suspect you will.
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  Speaker 3: You're a lawyer, you know how to dance with words.
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  Speaker 3: But even more deeply, you've left the law
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  Speaker 3: in order to do what?
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  Speaker 3: Like, what do you mean, uplift my career?
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: - Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 1: Really good question.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: So I left the law, not because I wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: I left the law because I had to.
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  Speaker 1: Being a lawyer, Raymond, is something
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  Speaker 1: that I've always wanted to do since I was little.
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  Speaker 1: So I was brought up in a family where we were encouraged to believe in our dreams,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what. So we didn't have any money at the time because my father had died
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  Speaker 1: when I was 10 months old and my mother had eight children to raise on her own.
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  Speaker 1: So there was absolutely no way mum would be able to have enough money to take me to
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  Speaker 1: university when we were running to school with no shoes because we didn't have any
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  Speaker 1: money for shoes. But what my mother gave us was hope, regardless of what we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: materialistically. She gave us something that's more powerful than, you know, the tangible
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  Speaker 1: things that we've got, is the gift of hope. So I hoped that I would become a solicitor
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  Speaker 1: one day because of all the atrocities that my family had faced. My family had been kicked
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  Speaker 1: out of their family home after my father died. That was because people accused my mom of
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  Speaker 1: having killed my father and yet my father was shot dead by a gun during the war of liberation.
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  Speaker 1: So that was a painful experience. But later on in life when we had this property,
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  Speaker 1: through a deal that my mum had entered into, she was a housemaid and the woman that she worked for
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  Speaker 1: had said she could work for five years without getting any salary and then would be entitled
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  Speaker 1: to this ramshackle thing that we called a property. Five years went by, we celebrated, super happy,
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  Speaker 1: but when this lady died, her children refused to honour the agreement because we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: it in writing, Raymond. It was impracticable for us to enforce that. So I experienced that
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, I need to be a lawyer, I have got to be a lawyer, there has to be
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  Speaker 1: a way of getting justice in this world. So that's when I started my journey to becoming a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: I left Zimbabwe at a young age just by myself coming to Great Britain because I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: afford to go to the local university and we only had one university, so my grades wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: actually qualify me to go to that one university because it was very, very competitive.
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  Speaker 1: But what my family did is they borrowed money, so they had £500 to enable me to catch the
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  Speaker 1: flight and to come to Great Britain, with just £500 in my pocket and a suitcase full
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  Speaker 1: of hope.
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  Speaker 1: I knew absolutely nobody.
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  Speaker 1: But to fast track, I struggled a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I became homeless, sleeping in the payphone boots and all the rest of it,
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  Speaker 1: just to become a solicitor.
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  Speaker 1: That was my dream and I would do anything to pursue it and I did that.
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  Speaker 1: I became a solicitor.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward, of course, a lot happened in between and you're welcome to ask me any questions.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be more than happy to answer those.
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  Speaker 1: I became a solicitor,
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  Speaker 1: became super successful.
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  Speaker 1: And then I went to social media, Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I need to help other people like me,
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  Speaker 1: other people who are coming from Africa, from those poor places, with dreams as well.
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  Speaker 1: I want to give them hope and I want to show them that if I can do it, they can do it too.
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  Speaker 1: So I set up a group on Facebook and I had about 6,000 people roundabout on my group.
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  Speaker 1: I would inspire them every morning.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell them my story about my journey.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll tell them how I started in property investment as well and how that worked for
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  Speaker 1: me because now I was a property solicitor and I was also doing property investment,
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  Speaker 1: Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: So loads of people succeeded and a lot of people bought houses just like I had done.
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  Speaker 1: And that would give me so much joy because that's what I wanted, giving hope, paying
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  Speaker 1: back, you know, that's what I wanted to do.
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  Speaker 3: That all sounds very good.
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  Speaker 3: How did you get kicked out of the law?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, things went wrong, Raymond,
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  Speaker 1: because with property investment,
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  Speaker 1: not every deal goes according to plan.
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  Speaker 1: Things change, markets fluctuate,
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  Speaker 1: and some deals just don't go as they ought to.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just the nature of the beast.
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  Speaker 1: So I had about five or six people out of that 6,000
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  Speaker 1: who were not very happy with the way the deals had gone.
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  Speaker 1: And they were saying, Julie, you've taken our money.
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  Speaker 1: This deal hasn't gone.
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  Speaker 1: This training program hasn't really worked.
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  Speaker 1: You are a scammer.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to expose you.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to bring you down.
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  Speaker 1: And then they started this whole social media cancellation
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  Speaker 1: campaign against me.
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  Speaker 1: When it started, Raymond, I couldn't actually believe it because I just
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  Speaker 1: thought, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: You can go and tell anybody your story because at the end of the day, things
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  Speaker 1: went wrong, but we've got processes, don't we?
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  Speaker 1: you can go to the property ombudsman because I'm registered with the property ombudsman
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  Speaker 1: and all the rest of it.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, no, we're going to bring you down.
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  Speaker 1: And they were saying loads of horrific things.
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  Speaker 1: So they went to my regulatory body, reported me, and they didn't just do it all in one
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  Speaker 1: go.
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  Speaker 1: So they would stagger them because it was all planned.
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  Speaker 1: So one person would go and then after that, the next person would go and then after that,
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  Speaker 1: the next person.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a whole six of them who went there.
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  Speaker 1: And then my regulatory body started the investigations.
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  Speaker 1: It took over five years.
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  Speaker 1: The five years I was going through all this pain,
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  Speaker 1: all these investigations,
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  Speaker 1: all these nasty things being said about me on social media.
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  Speaker 1: So came January this year,
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  Speaker 1: my regulatory body just basically said,
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  Speaker 1: "That's it, end of the journey, end of story."
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  Speaker 1: So that's when I lost my practicing certificate.
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  Speaker 3: - My gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Now, this is supposed to,
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  Speaker 3: no, sorry, it sounds like a sad story,
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  Speaker 3: but yet you're happy.
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  Speaker 3: So what's gone on?
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  Speaker 3: How did you wonder closes another door opens?
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  Speaker 3: Tell us the end of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: One door closes and another door opens the Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: But there's that messy middle,
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  Speaker 1: isn't there? When one door closes.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a painful thing because if it had always been
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  Speaker 1: your dream and you lose something that's so dear to you.
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  Speaker 1: For me, that was my career.
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  Speaker 1: That was my profession.
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  Speaker 1: I lost that. So I think I should make it clear to everybody that that was a dark, dark time
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  Speaker 1: in my life when I lost it. Because when you lose something dear to you, be it a career,
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  Speaker 1: be it a marriage, be it a relationship, be it whatever, there is a time that you go through,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the whole grieving process, the time where you don't know what tomorrow is going to
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  Speaker 1: bring a time where you feel very sorry for yourself and I think rightly so but there was a day where
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  Speaker 1: I just heard something say to me "Arise" and I was thinking what? Arise? What do you mean
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  Speaker 1: arise? Go where? Do what? Nobody wants to hear from me, nobody wants to know about me and quite frankly
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  Speaker 1: I've got nothing to arise for because I was just in bed all the time. I think I was probably
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, ARISE then became a formula that I used to get me out of that dark place.
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  Speaker 1: So ARISE to me, Raymond, was just really an acronym which stands for the following letters.
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  Speaker 1: The A is acceptance.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to accept where I was.
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  Speaker 1: I just had to accept that I'm no longer a solicitor.
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  Speaker 1: I had to accept that all these nasty things had actually really happened to me.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to get to a point of acceptance.
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  Speaker 1: That was the starting point from where I was to where I am now.
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  Speaker 1: Acceptance was the first thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then I stopped feeling sorry for myself because I had to.
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  Speaker 1: And I had to reframe how I looked at this situation.
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  Speaker 1: Rather than saying, "They did this to me.
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  Speaker 1: They did this to me.
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  Speaker 1: They're so cruel.
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  Speaker 1: And why did this happen to me?"
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  Speaker 1: I had to start seeing the obstacle as the way.
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  Speaker 1: And I had to use the art as like redirection.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a roadblock, but it's not necessarily a roadblock if I don't choose to see it that
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  Speaker 1: way.
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  Speaker 1: as a redirection. So where is this redirecting me to Raymond? Where am I supposed to go now that I've
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  Speaker 1: lost everything? So then I would think, okay, the answer then comes from, does it come from outside?
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  Speaker 1: Is somebody going to tell me what I need to do? But then I had to find the answers from within,
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  Speaker 1: which was then my internal guide, my internal compass, Raymond. And then after that,
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  Speaker 1: once I sat down with myself and became quiet enough to be able to hear,
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  Speaker 1: because sometimes when there's a lot of noise going on outside, it's very, very difficult,
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  Speaker 1: and even a lot of noise going on in our own minds at the time. So that was that, a gift,
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  Speaker 1: being able to listen to that inner voice. And then after that, the S represents your sacred vision,
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  Speaker 1: being able to change your perception and being able to change your perspective.
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  Speaker 1: So perception and perspective together become your sacred vision.
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  Speaker 1: It will help you visualize and see exactly where you need to go.
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  Speaker 1: And as part of that,
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  Speaker 1: you said you've gone through all of this, Julie, but you're still happy.
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  Speaker 1: It's because of the E in Arise, which is learning to enjoy the journey.
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  Speaker 1: I don't count myself to have apprehended at all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not where I would love to be, but I've just come to this place where I am where I am,
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  Speaker 1: and it is what it is, and I am going to enjoy the journey each and every single day.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope I managed to answer your question, Raymond.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, ARISE, what a beautiful acronym you've created.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I never realized that one door closes, another door opens.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds so slick and easy, but there is horrible grief and self-blame
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  Speaker 3: and all that crap that goes on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you for reminding me that it ain't as easy as doors opening and closing.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So now that we have the E, we have the enjoyment.
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
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  Speaker 3: What's your new life?
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  Speaker 3: How did you recreate yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 1: So the first step in recreating myself was understanding that all these narratives that are out there,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's got their own story about Julie, their story about who Julie is, their story about what Julie did,
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  Speaker 1: their story about whatever it is, but I have got power.
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  Speaker 1: I have got the power to write my own story.
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  Speaker 1: That's why then I took my pen, literally, and a paper, and I wrote my book, which is called Unbreakable.
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  Speaker 1: I've got a copy here.
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  Speaker 1: So I started writing my book called Unbreakable.
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  Speaker 1: And in Unbreakable, I tell my story because it's my story, a whole story, and I wrote
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  Speaker 1: a whole book about it.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing about writing this book, Raymond, was it wasn't just telling a story.
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  Speaker 1: It was healing because in writing it, I just found so much healing, so much peace and loads
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  Speaker 1: of other different things.
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  Speaker 1: people who read the book, they write to me and they say, Julie, wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is just what I needed, because when people realise that we are all going
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  Speaker 1: through something, because you're either going through something,
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  Speaker 1: you're just coming out of something or you're about to get into something,
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  Speaker 1: being a challenge or whatever, that's life, isn't it, Raymond?
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  Speaker 1: That is the circle of life.
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  Speaker 1: So I share all the painful stories in my book, but not as like a trauma dump.
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  Speaker 1: It says hope I've gone through this and here is where I am.
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  Speaker 1: I've gone through this and this is what you can also do.
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  Speaker 1: So it's all about hope.
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  Speaker 1: That's the long and short of it, Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm really happy about.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. I'm very impressed.
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  Speaker 3: But tell me, what's your current life?
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  Speaker 3: What do you do now?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, what do I do now?
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  Speaker 1: OK, so I speak now.
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  Speaker 1: I share my story on global stages here in Great Britain.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to loads of other different
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  Speaker 1: countries where I share that story and breakable.
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  Speaker 1: I share the formula that I've given you, Arise, to help other people.
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  Speaker 1: And I also run a training program called Arise to help other professionals,
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  Speaker 1: other people who are going through transition, going through a dark time,
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  Speaker 1: helping them reclaim their voice, find their feet and get to where they're
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  Speaker 1: destined to be. That's what I'm currently doing.
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  Speaker 1: And I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that when you're going
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  Speaker 1: the Valley of Death keep going. I love that and it's just so true isn't it? Some people get stuck.
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  Speaker 3: They keep telling the same story over and over again. She did this to me, the truck driver did
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  Speaker 3: it, the cheating husband, the bitchy wife, they just regurgitate the same story to their same
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  Speaker 3: friends for decades. Or even good news like though someone had their heyday as the quarterback
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: of their high school football team and they tell that story about throwing the winning catch,
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  Speaker 3: the winning pass, oh god, last second of the game and everybody's heard the story a hundred times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah so you have to keep going, you can't get stuck even on a good thing. That is so true,
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  Speaker 1: That is so true because then it becomes like a broken record, doesn't it? And it is just what
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  Speaker 1: it is. But I think it's just the power, Raymond, of either revolving or evolving. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's the choice that we've got. So we can revolve around the same story, regurgitate all those facts,
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  Speaker 1: or we could take a step and think, you know what, rather than revolving, I am going to evolve into
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  Speaker 1: a better version of myself. And then I'm going to make a difference for the next person.
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  Speaker 3: I know that you do. I'm going to tell you something that very few people know about me.
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  Speaker 3: That is, I think as great a job as I do, I've been a professional speaker for 42 years,
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  Speaker 3: I've helped millions of people, I've written 147 books, I've really done a great job.
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  Speaker 1: Literally? Literally 147?
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  Speaker 3: 147, yes.
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  Speaker 1: That's impressive. I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but I do confess I am an overachiever.
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  Speaker 1: Well, 147, that speaks volumes, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 3: But here's what I want to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I love what I do. I like wildly love it. Very successful and helped a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: I really think I should have been a lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 3: But the reason is every one or two years,
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  Speaker 3: somebody will come up to me and say, "You a lawyer?"
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  Speaker 3: Like out of the blue.
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  Speaker 3: - Really?
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  Speaker 3: - People I don't know, people stop me on the sidewalk.
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  Speaker 1: - Wow.
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  Speaker 3: - People that I meet at a networking function,
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  Speaker 3: they'll say, "Let me guess, you a lawyer?"
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  Speaker 3: But they never guess that I'm a plumber, neurosurgeon.
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  Speaker 3: They never guess anything except you're a lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: They don't even say you're a lawyer or what?
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  Speaker 3: Like they don't even allow any room.
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  Speaker 3: It's just lawyer.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to ask you why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think why do you think that is?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you are very articulate and you're very intelligent, but
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  Speaker 1: you must you must you must know why.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I can kind of nibble around the edges.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. In university, I graduated top of my class as a physicist.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. I've been rated as a genius in mathematics. I've been admitted to Mensa, which is the top
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  Speaker 3: 2% of IQ in the entire world's population. But physics, who the hell wants physics?
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  Speaker 3: Nobody. I never made any money in physics. But I could have applied that same wisdom
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  Speaker 3: in law and been very successful. But I don't want anyone to think I'm regretful or something. I
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  Speaker 3: wildly love my life. Wow. But I've always wondered why I keep getting attracted to the law.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. I just think you've achieved so very much, Raymond. I think that's absolutely
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  Speaker 1: incredible. You are blessed. But what I also think, Raymond, is this. You are super smart.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing that can stop you from doing law, even today. There's nothing at all. You can do
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  Speaker 3: law if you wanted. I don't know if they allow 80 year olds into law school any longer.
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  Speaker 1: I think they do. You look great, by the way. Well, they will do because you can do it like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: distance learning because that's how I did it. I did a distance learning myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you can do that. I think you should do it. Wow, well thanks for the encouragement. My daughter
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  Speaker 3: just got her MBA by distance learning and it's a two-year course. Everyone knows MBA is two years.
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  Speaker 1: She completed it in four months. No way, she's definitely your child, isn't she?
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  Speaker 3: That's what I was hoping you'd say. Yeah, well I said it.
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  Speaker 3: You are wonderful. I'm really enjoying this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you know what, so am I, because it's just a real conversation. It's just a genuine
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  Speaker 1: discussion. But it would really make my day, Raymond, if you did that law thing. It really
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  Speaker 1: would. And if your daughter did her MBA in four months, you can do your law in six months,
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  Speaker 3: good to you or even less. Oh good lord. So tell me how, what would you like to give us?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Give us a gift, give us something. Yeah sure, I would love to give you a download of
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  Speaker 1: a document that I call Unbreakable Reset. It just helps you reset after you've gone through
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  Speaker 1: a very, very challenging time. So it's almost like it's the precursor to the Arise, where we talk
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  Speaker 1: about acceptance and all the rest of it. So Reset is just to help you regroup. So you've got
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  Speaker 1: meditation, you've got loads of different things. So if you go to my website, which is juliecondliffe.co.uk
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  Speaker 1: you'll be able to download the Unbreakable Reset. And I think it would just help people find
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  Speaker 1: themselves again, Raymond, because like you and I discussed, yes, one door closes, the other one
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  Speaker 1: opens but just during that period in between before you find your way to the new door if you
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  Speaker 1: can just find a time to find yourself to rest reset and then reignite that will help you do that.
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  Speaker 3: Let me help my dear listeners who just said what's the website again? It's julie j-u-l-i-e
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  Speaker 3: Condliffe is c-o-n-d-l-i-f-f-e.co.uk and when you go there you can get the
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  Speaker 3: download that you just offered but I am going to add that you should also go to Amazon,
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  Speaker 3: pay the 20 bucks, whatever it is, and get her book Unbreakable. Wow, because she was unbreakable
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  Speaker 3: And in her book, she teaches you to be unbreakable.
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  Speaker 3: And I have gone through horrors in my life
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  Speaker 3: that turned out to be wonderful,
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  Speaker 3: the best thing that could have ever happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: But while I was going through them,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't look like the best thing
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  Speaker 3: that could have ever happened to me.
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  Speaker 3: They look like the worst thing.
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  Speaker 3: They look like a thing that could have killed me.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, "Unbreakable," the book at Amazon,
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  Speaker 3: and go to her website, Julie Conliff, I told you how to spell it,
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  Speaker 3: dot co dot UK and get her free download.
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  Speaker 3: Julie, you are wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: You are gorgeous.
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  Speaker 3: You are a light.
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  Speaker 3: You use it as a lawyer and also as a seminar leader and as a speaker to uplift
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  Speaker 3: others, what a wonderful calling. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: That means a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that means a lot coming from you, Raymond.
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  Speaker 1: It genuinely does.
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  Speaker 1: And I thank God for you for giving us this platform to share our stories
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  Speaker 1: and to meet honorable people like you.
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  Speaker 1: This truly has been a blessing.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Raymond.
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  Speaker 3: One of my favorite quotations that you remind me of very well is a job is what
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  Speaker 3: you're paid for, but a calling is what you're made for.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And you were paid.
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  Speaker 3: You were made to be a solicitor and then you were made to lose it and to recreate yourself
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  Speaker 3: so that you could help even more people.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's so powerful, but I'm not going to cry because I've got makeup on.
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  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: This is good.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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