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Gilmore Girls - Vicious Trollops vs A Team By Kirk · Fandomonium! A Fandom Comedy Game Show

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  Hello, and welcome to Gates Leapers, the pop culture game show that shines
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  the spotlights onto everyone's favorite fandoms. I'm your games master and precocious daughter of
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  a talkative mother, Matt Watson. Yeah that's right, I'm saying Rory is
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  the villain loop top. Of course, we couldn't play these games without our
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  team captains, a pair of Gilmour guys. First, he's a Chris,
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  but he's actually more of a Luke. Maybe yeah, it's Chris. Arguments
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  could be made either way. I guess I do get very moody. I
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  do have a boat that I don't use into a garage. Yeah, so
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  yeah, you know, Yeah that's fair o leagues. Yeah, of course.
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  And he's asking why they're calling Sam Dean it's Drew Shulman. Oh well,
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  I should have seen that one coming a mile away. If it's the
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  brand, If it's the brand. Hello, captains, are you ready for
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  a series of games about a drama d TV series that helped define the early
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  two thousands? So ready done? At once? I'll do it again.
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  Now look at this point I'll reveal the conceit of this episode. You may
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  notice, for the first time ever, both Audra and Jason are missing as
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  captains. That's because this episode it's going to be a Gilmore Girls themed mister
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  and missus, it's a couple versus couple. So I guess my question to
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  you both is, are you glad you're going to be paired with some super
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  fans who actually know something? Oh? My god? Yes, Like I
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  know the show. Well, I mean this nice? Okay, there's just
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  so much of it. Like every single time a discussion of Gilmore Girls is
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  brought up, I'm like, wait, I watched all of this last year.
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  I don't remember anything that happened. What I feel like you've in the
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  same boat is my wife will mention something from the show and I'll be like,
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  I believe that happened on the show. I've only watched it through twice,
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  but I believe you. I'll take your word for it. But okay,
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  okay, that was gonna be my next question. So, Drew,
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  you've watched it through twice as part of your responsibility of being married to a
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  Gilmore Gills man, well, once before marrying her and once after marrying her.
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  Nice. Nice, view it with the different contexts and Chris, what
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  about what about you? How many times have if you watched it through one
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  time, all the way through, with a smattering of just random episodes being
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  thrown up here and there throughout the years. So okay, a lot of
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  like season four, I've probably watched like three or four times, but everything
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  else once correction season five whatever. Wow, already fighting? Fine, you
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  know what, I've had enough of this, all right, you're being really
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  aggressive with me. I'm just gonna leave historically like seas, I'm just gonna
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  rage quite a lot, just to just in the melodramatic, you know,
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  atmosphere of it also just gets it's on theme. Yeah, yeah, Well,
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  well it sounds like, honestly you need some help to play these games
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  about Gilmore Girls. So you'll each need to pair up with an independent,
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  headstrong and sarcastic girl. Although I prefer to call them women, but they're
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  girls in the show because it's Gilmore Girls. So, Chris, who is
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  your girl? Well, she is a regular here around gate Leapers. She
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  is only once been beaten, uh, and you know whether or not that
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  was fair or not is uh, you know, that's up to your interpretation.
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  But she's beaten me several times in this show. And she is also
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  the love of my life. Jen Reagan, Hello, Jen, welcome back
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  to the podcast. Thanks love, thanks for having me back. It was
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  a good intro. I'd say you, how would you write Chris's intro of
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  you give me a scale? Okay? Oh, but we seven seasons of
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  Gilmore Girls one through seven? Okay? Is it based on my like the
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  like ability of that season or just a one through seven? I'm really yeah,
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  you're married to a scientist. Okay, you know better. Okay,
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  then instead I will ask you this question, but feel free to ask follow
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  up questions off the back of it. Okay. Are you a big Gilmo
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  Girls fan? Yeah? I mean I truly don't think And this sounds so
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  like, I don't know, pretentious or whatever. I don't think fan or
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  like big fan describes what it is like. I can remember watching the first
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  episode my sister and our recliner, like everything about the tactile experience of that
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  and then everything throughout life. So it's like it almost seems like fan.
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  It doesn't actually like describe it because it's not like like, oh my god,
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  it's such a big fan, like fawning over it in the way that
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  I do. Like Taylor Swift but like more that this is just like it's
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  just in my tool belt, it's just like part it's a part of the
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  fabric, if you'll be Yeah, very articulate way of explaining that. And
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  it's always great to be passionate, but you are now setting yourself up to
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  fail massively, So oh for sure. I want to set the stage here
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  that I have come into many a gate leaper episode going yeah, I know
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  some of this enough to talk about it and make jokes about it and participate
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  with whoever is in the room. This is fine. But like I think
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  for me, this one means a lot more on the sentimal like sentimentality side
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  of it. That's word, Yeah, to like be in a hypothetical room
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  with another big fan or like another person has had this be part of their
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  life in a really like intricate way, and to be able to just like
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  talk about this. Like for me, it's not like can I compete prove
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  to myself that I'm a big fan of Kilmore girls, or if I get
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  a task wrong, does that mean I'm not. It's like it's just fun
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  to be in a room, in a space and share something that's meant so
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  much to me with people who mean a lot to me. Yeah, and
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  where that shakes out, it shakes out. I know I have a reputation
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  here at this table that I have to uphold or whatever. Yeah, and
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  I know Jason's stat Leeper's episode is coming up and he keeps reminding me,
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  So that's there obviously. But it is such like a this one means more.
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  Okay, Okay, that's I mean, that's good. It's this is
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  my Roman empire. This is to be on trend. Yeah. Yeah,
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  and this episode goes out pretty soon, so yeah, it will still be
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  on trend. Awesome. Well, it's great. I think you'll make an
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  excellent team. As you do in life. I appreciate it. Just like
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  in life, general do most of the hard work. And Drew, who
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  is joining you today, I have brought for their podcast premiere. They've never
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  appeared in a podcast before. My lovely wife, the brains, the beauty,
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  the know how of this team, which means I don't really know what
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  I'm bringing to it, but I'm bringing her my wife, Paula. Hello,
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  Paula, welcome to the podcast. Hello. Oh thank you so much
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  for having me. What a topic to make my podcast debut? Yes,
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  yes, so I mean, I'll get right to it. Are you also
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  a massive Gilmore Girls fan? Much like gensaid? It's and it's funny that
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  she also brought up Taylor Swift, because you know, I can bend girl
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  all over Taylor Swift, but Gilmore Girls the same thing. It's been part
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  of essentially the fiber of my being for as long as I can remember.
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  You know, I can't necessarily like Pinpoint watching the first episode because we're in
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  Canada. We didn't get the WB or the CW. We had to wait
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  for it to like slimbal cast and everything, So you know, I can't
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  really like ten Point starting it. I know that at one point, I
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  guess I must have been like twelve years old and I asked my mom,
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  like, why can't you be a single mom? It was so much fun.
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  But you know, similarly, like in the way that I acted my
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  professional life, I realized that I'm a lot like Laurli in the way I
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  try and build relationships with people. And I thought as a student I was
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  a rory, but then it turns out that she's the worst person. So
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  we're just not going that seems like the natural realization is to just be like
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  when you're younger, you think you are a Rory, but then you've realized
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  very much, no, it's much better to be a Laura Lie. Yeah.
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  And then you know, planning it like just it impacts me in ways
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  that I can't consciously say, but people who know me point it out and
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  you just go like, oh, yeah, that tracks right. So like
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  planning our wedding, you know, I'm putting all these details together, and
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  finally my mom is like, this is the wedding that Laura I would host.
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  It be independent. Then, like in the first season, this is
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  exactly what you've planned for yourself, and like, who shoot, it is.
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  So it's just it's ingrained into my soul and it just came along to
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  the red Yeah, to the wedding. Yeah attended. This is fantastic.
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  It's always I love the gate Leapers episodes that have like a super fan and
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  then someone who doesn't really know all that much. I think that works just
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  works out the best. But for it to be couples with sort of having
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  that natural chemistry and it also being someone who has it as the fabric of
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  their being and then someone who's along for the ride. Yeah, that's also
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  describes a lot of Gilmore Girl's relationships as well. Not wrong. So yeah,
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  I think Jen, you mentioned it a bit ago, and I feel
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  like I should mention it. The last time that Drew and Gen were on
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  the same episode was the Sailor Moon episode, and Drew may or may not
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  I'm being political here, have ended Jen's undefeated streak. I'm so sorry.
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  I don't know any pops culture salers. Okay, that quick fire around this
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  bitch, so bearing in mind that it means nothing and proves nothing about how
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  much you know about a fandom. As and just pointed out, this is
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  another championship match. I feel this is the title is very much on the
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  line here. It's the champion versus the former champion in pro wrestling. That
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  just makes sense to me. I didn't get a belt, but if I
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  had a belt, I'd be flashing it here. It's it's metaphysical. You
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  have it just to enjoy it. Pretend it's there. It's there, you're
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  strapped up. That's fine, okay, Teams, you've arrived for your first
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  day at Chiltern, but some conservative child is already trying to get you to
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  form a study group. And study groups need names. I love Paris.
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  So I'd like each pair to come up with a Gilmore Girls themed team name,
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  please. So let's start with Chris and Jen. Have you got a
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  team name? Yes? We do. We had a couple of different ideas
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  for this team name, but Jen is better at describing it than myself,
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  So if you want to turn certainly. So, knowing this episode was coming,
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  I was thinking, like, what what should we do? What should
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  be the team name? I don't want it to be something that's like,
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  you know, you're like top forty known Gilmore Girls quotes or references. Do
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  you want a deep cut? Deep cut? And so we're talking about it,
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  and on a walk with our dog, Chris was like, we could
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  be the Vicious Trallop's and my brain churt circuit of being like, where where
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  is that that's in the show? And so I started going through the catalog
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  and he let me know that he knew this because of his ex girlfriend.
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  So I don't know what that says about you? Do you only date Gilmore
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  Girls finds apparently apparently unplanned? But that's just kind of how it how it's
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  always turned out. Yeah, this was literally the only thing I knew about
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  Gilmore Girls was the words vicious Trallop before being with Chi. Yes, so
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  the the team name will be Vicious Trallop. It's from U an episode in
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  season two where Lorali and Emily are at a spot together and Laura is putting
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  on a lipstick color and I mean he's like, oh, I like that
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  can and she's like, oh you can, you know, wear it too,
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  and she's like, what's it called? And Laura says Vicious Trollop and
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  Emily goes, what dirty horror was taken? Is taken as a team name
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  as well? I mean, I think you guys have done it, at
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  least we must have had some reference, so vicious Troop, but you could
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  call this dirty Horrors if that, if you're more comfortable, fair bring your
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  kings into this. That's fantastic. Vicious Trollops. Am I allowed to pluralize
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  it because it's two of you? Yeah? Yeah trollops? Yeah? Okay
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  for sure, Yeah, pair of vicious trollops. Okay, let's let's move
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  on over to Drew and Pola. Let's have you got a Gilmore Girls themed
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  team name idea? And we also knew that this etisode was coming and started
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  brainstorming what we were going to do for our team name, and we thought
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  about we were all almost set on the Puffs with the high secret society at
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  Chiltern that Rory gets dragged into in the middle of the night, and Drew
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  was trying to find a way to be like, was it a big bell?
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  We couldn't find a way to make that into a team name, and
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  so we pivoted to one of my favorite moments of all time in the entire
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  series, and that is when they are having the movie Night in Town and
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  we get to see the worldwide debut of an original film by Kirk o God
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  and it might be one of the most brilliant pieces of art to ever come
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  across my screen. And so we decided that we would be a team by
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  Kirk. Yes, that's such a good reference. Just getting a Kirk thing
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  in was like all I wanted. So I'm so happy we got that.
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  So good, super necessary Cat Kirk, The cat Kirks was one of my
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  backup A lot of love for Kirk, a lot of time for Kirk,
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  real main character. I do want a cut of that is just from Kirk's
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  perspective, cook cut Oh, brilliant. Absolutely, his family's got connected,
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  but then where does mix it into all of it? Oh, it's not
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  debate. We're having now, Okay, this is great. We've got vicious
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  trollops versus a team by Kirk. I love it all right. And if
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  you're listening to this and thinking, well, everyone here has seems small town
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  lovely. But I don't know my Gilmore Girls from my Backstreet Boys, don't
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  worry. In Audra's absence, Chris has prepared a fantastic monologue all about the
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  Gilmore Girls. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I for sure prepared to
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  send you that email. Yeah no, I remember I read all your emails
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  and messages and discorded for sure. So the Gilmore Girls, Hello, Oh
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  I am here to save you. Oh thank god, it's resident Experts Aldre
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  Stevenson. Okay, thank you, yeah, Yadra. Gilmore Girls is an
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  American comedy drama TV series created by Amy Sherman Palladino. The show stars Lauren
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  Graham as Laura I. Gilmore and Alexis Badil as her daughter Rory Gilmore,
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  the titular Gilmore Girls. Honestly, it would be weird if they were not
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  the Gilmore That would be weird. It's such relief to have that suki thing
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  fixed. I know, I hate fighting with friends. That's what enemies are
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  for. After its debut in Fall two thousand, Yes You are Old,
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  Gilmore Girls became the flagship series for the WB. Audiences couldn't get enough of
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  the people of Stars Hollow, Connecticut. Stars Hollow should be the name for
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  Hollywood, right, stars Hollow. How many of you ever considered the fact
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  that you're glorifying war we fought so we could keep land that we stole.
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  Gilmore Girls received critical acclaim for its fast paced, witty dialogue, cross generational
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  appeal, and effective mix of humor and drama. This is a show by
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  women, typically geared towards women, about the realistic struggle of witty women who
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  will say as much as they can, as fast as they can, to
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  avoid their real feelings and the impacts of those feelings. I mean, why
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  do I have to address my feelings when I live in a beautiful, walkable
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  community that somehow still has affordable housing. I visited the family mausoleum today.
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  Never what you think is gonna be. Gilmore Girls has been cited in Time
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  magazine as one of the one hundred greatest television shows of all time. It
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  has also become one of the most watched shows on streaming platforms. And if
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  we are going to get through all one hundred and fifty three episodes, I
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  am gonna need more coffee. Uh, I'm gonna pop down to Lukes.
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  Anybody want one coffee? Coffee, I'll get to a piece, just to
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  be safe. Thanks, Adra. Okay, just before we get to today's
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  games, I've asked each player to bring in a muse, something that inspires
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  them or something they love from this particular fandom. Gilmore Girls is inspiring to
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  me because it represents women as both confident and inept just like men. This
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  is what equality looks like. People, This is what it looks like.
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  And I think it's only right that we start with the fans. So,
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  Jen, what's inspiring you from the world of girls? Comma Gilmore, I
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  have my own little paul Anka in the room. So you hear any barkstring
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  the audio's that's what it is. That's what it is. It's her.
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  It's paul Anka in the flash. This one, I guess, is a
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  more of a theoretical concept for what I'm bringing And like I said at the
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  top, like this show is very fabric to me, and within that,
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  I grew up a little more about me. I grew up military, was
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  moving around a lot. This came out in two thousand when I was five
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  or six. I had an older sister. This is definitely like catered to
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  her agent demographic. And again, like Paula had said, like it was
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  on the w B, we didn't have cable, so you're working with Channel
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  five, it's your entertainment. I was a big PBS kid. But so
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  within that growing up connections hard, and something that I found across all places,
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  across all friends, something that was easy as practically a language between between
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  people was Gilmore Girls. And so for the friendships that I've had in my
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  childhood that I still have, they are so ameshed and Gilmore Girls and staying
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  up and watching it and rewatching it and watching the box sets and scratching the
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  box sets because I was a child and didn't know how to take care of
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  DVDs. Sure, but like I said, it's kind of that feeling of
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  connection and then being able to share it with friends and my partner, and
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  it's still being so incredibly huge for me coming into my thirtieth year and I
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  started watching what is five so it's kind of like that's where the like,
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  I can't I don't know if I could say fan anymore. It's been a
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  long and it's just been such a part and such a language that I've been
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  able to speak with so many people, which has been a huge bridge for
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  making new friends and getting involved with new communities. So your muse is holistic,
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  it is. It is a life in the life. It's a year
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  in the life if you will. Yeah, yeah, a full year in
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  the life, but twenty five twenty five years in the life, a life
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  for a year of the life. Yeah, exactly. Lives of lives.
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  Yeah, the base of our lives, I mean, sorry, our lives,
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  your music, days of our lives gone. That's a fantastic news.
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  It shows how important the show the show to you. Yeah, it's great,
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  muse. Let's move on over to the other super fan in the room,
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  Paula. What's inspiring you from Gilmore Girls? I mean it sounds really
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  basic, but coffee, Yeah, there is that that little piece when Laura
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  Hanko to Luke's and so she goes to another bakery and she goes coffee,
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  coffee, coffee, and then give her three coffees that is my every day,
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  every day ending, and why has three coffees in it? Today we
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  have switched our coffee to a more adult version that has some you know,
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  foods in it, but it is coffee, coffee, coffee all day long.
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  And then yeah, Otherwise, sitting in a room that is surrounded with
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  quite a few items of Gilmore Girls decor. I know my zoom background is
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  blurred, but there's a lot of Gilmore Girls. Okay, we believe you.
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  It's okay. But the coffee is the big one. Yeah, the
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  coffee is the lead. That's fantastic. Such a key part of the show,
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  such a key potlauralized character, right bees, and a key part of
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  what makes me me so yes, yes, yeah, the Gilmore Girls is
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  the fabric view, but coffee also maybe the fabric of you as well?
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  Hold together? Yes, Okay, Now we'll move over to a couple of
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  guys who might not know as much. Maybe they'll be inspired by something we'll
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  find out. I can only ask Drew, what's inspiring you from the world
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  of Gilmore Girls. I thought long and hard about this one, because I
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  really do enjoy the show. Like I said, I watched it before even
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  meeting Paula. But I think something that hit me recently that is the most
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  inspiring from the show is the soundtrack to the show, and very specifically the
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  La Laws. There is something so magical about how just the word love repeated
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  in rhythm can evoke so many different emotions throughout the show. And I like
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  we walk down in the aisle to those at our wedding. I mean they
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  are special to me. Ah, that's a little la la la, the
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  little la la las. That's so good. Do you know does any of
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  the anyone know the band that does the la la labits the transitions or is
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  it in the house? Did they have like the music produced to do that?
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  Like the composed of it. It is the same singer that sings Reflecting
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  Light And I am having a blank on her name at this exact moment.
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  Phillips. Nice. Nice, There's no points on the line. Don't worry,
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  but it's I was just curious. I went to because the music in
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  Gilmore Girls is fantastic. Just the soundtrack of various like actual songs that they
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  use throughout it. Great stuff. So yeah, beautiful, sweet muse that
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  Drew connects connects to your wedding beautifully connects to a key part of Gilmore Girl's
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  Let's see what Chris has got to offer? Chris, what's inspiring you.
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  So there's a lot of things, but I think what I've got to consider
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  my muse is just going to be my personal favorite character in the show,
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  because he he is his own main character in his own show. And you
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  might be thinking it's Kirk, which is fair, and it's and that's a
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  valid favorite character. However, I'm talking about TJ. Luke's brother in law
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  because he just could not give less of a shit about whatever whatever the hell
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  lore Lion lucre dealing with. He's got his own life to live and I
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  just I love him so much. He was also he was also in one
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  of my favorite movies as a child, in Sino Man. But that's beside
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  the point. Yeah, the actor. We'll get to the Encino Man getting
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  you. Oh thank god, the poly Shore episode. But yeah, TJ
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  and just him going look at the ren Fair. It's it's my favorite there
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  there, it is. Yeah, It's it's always good to have the specific
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  favorite characters. That's why I love about the music and to shout out those
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  secondary characters that don't get talked about as much. So yeah, good,
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  mus he came through and ascrow the house. Does he know what that means?
• 24:02
  No? I don't know what it means either. Your TJ. All
• 24:10
  I can hear is escrow, Yeah, scrow down the house. I'm going
• 24:17
  to need that reference explained and escrow. Unfortunately, I can only reference when
• 24:22
  is a TJ buy a house and not escrow. That's okay, because right,
• 24:26
  teams, let's link arms and walk through our perfectly idyllic and unrealistic affordable
• 24:33
  small town into round one. Round one is called so quotable, where this
• 24:41
  time the s O stands for significant other. It works better when it's written
• 24:47
  down. It's a couple's twist on our classic quotes fill in the blank style
• 24:51
  guessing game. Here's how it's gonna work. I will readout an iconic Gilmore
• 24:56
  girl's quote with one word missing. I'll then ask our to write down what
• 25:00
  they think the missing word is. After that, I'll ask our super fans
• 25:04
  to give us the correct answer for one point. They can then score a
• 25:08
  second bonus point if they correctly guess the word their partner wrote down. So
• 25:14
  you can either have faith that they wrote the correct answer and say that and
• 25:17
  get potentially two points from that, or take a guess at the word they
• 25:21
  wrote. If you know that they didn't know, love the confidence that I'm
• 25:26
  gonna get it correct. Well, you know, I think there's a pretty
• 25:30
  big Gilmore Girls quote, but you know, anything could happen. It's gayly.
• 25:34
  So first of all, here's your first quote, and it will be
• 25:38
  the captain's the partners writing down what they think the blank is. So here's
• 25:42
  the quote. I don't know if she ever realized the person I most wanted
• 25:48
  to be was blank. Oh come on, guys, this is easy.
• 25:52
  So just going to need an answer written down from both captains. Got a
• 25:56
  thumbs up and Drew got a loud noise that may not be being picked up
• 26:00
  on. He's got her all noises, okay, okay, And just because
• 26:07
  he's panicking so much, I'm going to come to Chris first, Jesus.
• 26:12
  Okay, Oh wait, I guess it's real answers first. It's a new
• 26:15
  game, so I'm all over the place. The edit will fix this,
• 26:19
  Okay. Now we're going to ask the experts what the correct answer is.
• 26:22
  So this time we'll start with Jen. God, this one isn't top of
• 26:27
  mind. For me, I'm gonna assume her it is her. Did you
• 26:30
  have the same answer, Pola, I did. It's Victorian speech when she's
• 26:36
  graduating Concilia. Yeah. I was like, this is familiar and I feel
• 26:40
  like it's in a speech. But she said a lot of these, so
• 26:44
  she likes picking up a mom. Okay, that's a point each there,
• 26:47
  but there can be a bonus point scored for each party. Jen, what
• 26:51
  did you think that Chris wrote? I mean, by passive elimination, I
• 26:55
  think he put the correct answer based on grammatical structure of the sentence, So
• 26:59
  I'm going to assume that he put her. Okay, Chris, what did
• 27:03
  you What did you write? That was my first thought because it made grammatical
• 27:07
  sense. But then I was like, no, they have to be talking
• 27:08
  about a specific person. This feels like a swerve, Matt, So so
• 27:15
  I just put my mother okay, which it's not quite the exact quote,
• 27:21
  but yeah, it's not going to be a point, but it's the same
• 27:22
  sentiment. Right, at least you didn't say, Cook and Paula, what
• 27:33
  do you think Drew wrote down here? I think they got it right.
• 27:37
  Yeah, yeah, that is an extra point for a team by Cook here
• 27:45
  is your next quote. If you're going to throw your life away, he
• 27:49
  better have a blank. If you're going to throw your life away, you'd
• 27:56
  better have a blank. So a couple of I don't know if you're gonna
• 28:02
  keep this one. Well, guess is this is an impossible game and I
• 28:06
  am being attacked. This is like from the pot. Well, well shit,
• 28:17
  I'll have to see what happens. I'll be honest. I had a
• 28:18
  little bit of confidence coming into this game. I don't anymore. And the
• 28:25
  quotes are only going to get trickia so perfect, do we have answers written
• 28:30
  down there? Okay, we will now go to the experts for hopefully the
• 28:33
  correct answers. Paula, let's start with you from the pilot. We better
• 28:37
  have a motorcycle. It is indeed motorcycle. If you have to say,
• 28:41
  mensagen, nice stuff. I'm gonna have to curb my urge to describe every
• 28:48
  scene. I mean you can. I'll just decide whether I keep it in
• 28:51
  or not. Well, why gets into Chilton? Laura l I sells her
• 28:55
  soul to get money from her parents, so she's already locked and loaded.
• 28:57
  She meets Dean, decides that she might not want to go to Chilton because
• 29:00
  now she's falling in love with Dean. And then Lourlai gets upset and they
• 29:03
  get in a fight, and he said, if you're gonna throw your life
• 29:07
  away, you better have a motorcycle, because Christopher had a motorcycle. And
• 29:10
  this is technically foreshadowing to the first time you see Christopher driving up on a
• 29:14
  motorcycle. Nice good stuff. Hell, good context there. But let's find
• 29:19
  out if the pot is all right? Wrote down, motorcycle, Drew.
• 29:22
  We will start with you and Paula. What do you think Drew wrote down.
• 29:26
  I'm not I'm not convinced that he got this right. Knowing my husband,
• 29:33
  He's better have a dog. I'm gonna throw your life away, have
• 29:41
  a dog. I mean logically, if I'm throwing my life away from somebody,
• 29:44
  they better have a dog. But no, I was channeling my interview
• 29:47
  and thinking a plan plans good. Yeah, it does fit the sentiment of
• 29:52
  Gilmore Girls. Okay, so no point there for a team by Kirk.
• 29:56
  But let's find out if vicious Trollops are going to score a point? Jen,
• 29:59
  what do you think Chris wrote down? Okay, I don't think you
• 30:00
  put motorcycle. Because he's only seen season one once, I would think that
• 30:04
  he would go at the practical and be like, he better have like a
• 30:07
  job or something. See same job? Is that I'm saying job? Mansion?
• 30:11
  Oh mansion? Okay? Yeah? It starts with an them close to
• 30:17
  the motorcycle, is it? Yeah? I could stop throwing out for answers
• 30:22
  that the start with the same letter. Yeah, let's just call him a
• 30:25
  hitty, all right, and I'm not above it. Okay, so no
• 30:30
  points there, but fun fun guess is nonetheless from the partners. Let's move
• 30:33
  on to the next quote. Well, I'll bring blank up on the internet
• 30:38
  and see what comes up. Sorry, that was so loud. That's gonna
• 30:41
  peak. I'm sorry that the quote is. Well, I'll bring blank up
• 30:47
  on the internet and see what comes up. I know the scene, I
• 30:51
  can visualize it. I remember laughing at this on the show. But I
• 30:57
  but it's still spotty. I have this like I have the format of the
• 31:02
  joke, but I can't think what the word is. Yeah, exactly.
• 31:06
  I have such a beef with this scene. Okay, do we have answers
• 31:11
  written down from our captains? Yeah? Nice, Okay, we'll go of
• 31:17
  it. To Jen this time, Well, I'll bring Dick up on the
• 31:21
  internet and see what comes up. It is indeed Dick from Richard Gilmore that,
• 31:26
  Paula, do you have to say Mansa? I could not remember at
• 31:29
  that point. Okay, I appreciate the honesty easily, the opportunity to cheat
• 31:34
  the absolute you could have been an opportunity to cheat, but you didn't take
• 31:37
  it. That's fantastic stuff. Unlike Rory. Shots fire appropriately at Rory.
• 31:45
  Yeah, what an astute reference of Rory. But let's see if we've got
• 31:49
  some astute references by our captains. Jen, what do you think Chris wrote,
• 31:56
  I hope you put Dick. I'm gonna have to let you down a
• 31:57
  third time. But if Richard actually said this, I would laugh even harder
• 32:04
  because I put feet Richard might have a thing. Do we ever get any
• 32:12
  shots? You feel like he probably does judgment outside of a tight She's always
• 32:16
  wearing tight, So I get no points there, but still very very good
• 32:21
  fate, Paula. What do you think Drew wrote here? No, I
• 32:24
  feel like he might have gotten it right. Did he write Dick? I
• 32:30
  did not. I wrote suck. I was trying with something like what is
• 32:34
  something you could say that would be non like not dirty, but keep him
• 32:37
  up dirty on the internets. My exact line of thinking exactly it was when
• 32:44
  he was golfing with Luke and he asked Luke if he reads, and Luke
• 32:47
  said yeah, that did get yeah, which is why I have a beef
• 32:53
  with it, because Richard reads. That's the whole thing is Rory and Richard
• 33:00
  over reading. And he's like, oh, you read. That's nice.
• 33:04
  And maybe it's just like the him playing off the fact that he didn't want
• 33:07
  to get to know Luke at all, but he's like, I think he
• 33:09
  would have known major authors that have the word dick in it or references like
• 33:15
  Moby Dick or Emily Dickinson or any other words based literature is dick based literature.
• 33:21
  And so I'm like, how are you acting so like what? I
• 33:24
  have no idea what you're talking about. When you're a reader, that's kind
• 33:29
  of your thing. Just gonna say, dick based literature is what I call
• 33:31
  porn. It's a shame. Order is not here to say, Amen,
• 33:39
  I'll say it amen. Okay, with that, we'll move on to another
• 33:44
  quote. Here is the the blank I would like filling now, that we've
• 33:47
  made a innuendo with the dick thing. It's just I am not your mother
• 33:55
  or your hugger. If you need some love, get a blank. I
• 34:00
  am not your mother or your hooker. If you need some love, geta
• 34:05
  I know exactly the scene and exactly who says it, trying to play it
• 34:09
  in my head. That was me on the last one. Okay, you
• 34:15
  got an answer written down, crayeh got one through ye? Okay, Paula,
• 34:19
  what is the do you know the correct answer for this one? I
• 34:21
  believe it is Hooker. It is indeed hooker. Did you have that?
• 34:24
  Dam I did? You got it? Honest? Is it? I got
• 34:27
  it in the end once I played the scene over. I got it once
• 34:30
  I like played the whole thing. Man, who is it? Who says
• 34:32
  it? Paris the tutoring thing for one of the tests. Yeah, it's
• 34:42
  like she's doing like a tutoring thing, and it's when Rory starts coddling her.
• 34:46
  I don't know how to say the person that's getting tutored. Yeah.
• 34:51
  Yeah, there's a lot of coddling going on around here. Let's find out
• 34:57
  what the what the captains wrote here? So, Paula, what do you
• 35:00
  think Drew wrote here, I'm going confident I think he got it right.
• 35:05
  I think he said hooker. I guess I'm guessing you're being really good at
• 35:07
  not watching my expression as you give answers. It's very clearly my reaction was
• 35:12
  what So no, went a lot more teddy, oh oh, dear into
• 35:22
  Paris Like now I realized my error. Yeah, but you know who said
• 35:25
  it. You know that there's a lot more aggression involved. Mm hm,
• 35:29
  does ryme? Does ryme? If you need some love, geta teddy?
• 35:35
  But not in that way? Oh God, and Jen, what do you
• 35:39
  think Chris wrote for this one? I think he may have said therapist therapist.
• 35:45
  Okay, if you if you need some love, get a therapist.
• 35:46
  There's been a lot of therapy talk directed towards me this episode. I don't
• 35:50
  know if I appreciate that. No, I said lover hooker crossed my mind,
• 35:58
  but I thought it was too aggressive because I did realize this pair of
• 36:00
  saying it's a same like, oh okay, but it did feel like it
• 36:07
  had to rhyme. So, yeah, you're just both more wholesome than Paris
• 36:09
  is. That's exactly what that is. It's not hard, Okay, No,
• 36:16
  points there for guessing what the partner's had. But we'll move on to
• 36:19
  the next quote. Blank has absolutely no place in our world. Could be
• 36:23
  lots of things here that a statement is made about no place for lots of
• 36:28
  things in this world? Can you repeat it one more time? Absolutely blank
• 36:31
  has absolutely no place in our world? All right, we've got an answer
• 36:37
  from Chris, I just can't spell apparently nice, and we have an answer
• 36:40
  from Drew, So Jen, what has absolutely no place in our world?
• 36:45
  I legitimately can't think of when this is. I'm going to just do the
• 36:50
  forfeit. I can't even It's so bad that I can't even put a word
• 36:53
  in there. What I would think? I would say? Okay, no
• 36:55
  answer, Pola, what do you think this one is? I also feel
• 36:59
  very similarly, is that I have no clue what this is. So I'm
• 37:02
  gonna throw out sarcasm. Okay, that is that is a good guess,
• 37:07
  but it's not sarcasm. The correct answer was actually reality. It's a very
• 37:12
  like the meta line from Lorelei when someone's pointing out the ridiculousness of that situation.
• 37:19
  Reality has absolutely no place in our world. But what did the partners
• 37:22
  put down? Let's find out, Jen, what do you think Chris wrote,
• 37:25
  um drama drama nice, I said, historical accuracy. I hey,
• 37:35
  you really lover historical acacy. These are all like adjacent to it it actually
• 37:39
  yeah, yeah, yeah, see I was assuming this was something that oh
• 37:45
  my goodness, I'm blinking on his name. The grocery store owner said,
• 37:47
  yeah, the do dozie said about some one of their historical rhineta. That
• 37:53
  was just it. That's the got from you. And then she didn't actually
• 37:59
  care about historical acacy. Does care about yeah, but also he sucks,
• 38:04
  so I don't know. Yeah, that's fad so and Paula, what do
• 38:08
  you think Drew wrote down nonsense nonsense? These? I think he probably also
• 38:17
  wrote down just a bunch of random letters that are nonsense, but with the
• 38:22
  word nonsense. You know. So before I reveal that, I was thinking
• 38:24
  similar to Chris, I was gonna build a scenario. And I'm thinking of
• 38:28
  just all the time that Luke has to put up with ship going on in
• 38:31
  Stars Hall of he doesn't want to deal with. And the only thing I
• 38:34
  can think of that happens enough in stars Hallow that it would fit in would
• 38:37
  be dance. Okay, I can totally saying that dance has no place at
• 38:43
  all, Barkley. It's footloot step in here. That is a very Luke
• 38:49
  line. Yeah, I'm right, Taylor in the show. Absolutely if they
• 38:54
  bring back Gilmore girls, contact you guys as right as maybe. Yeah,
• 38:59
  write a letter to Am that she should have added that here. Amy.
• 39:02
  Okay, I've got one final quote for you guys, and it's a it's
• 39:06
  a short one. It's simply I smell blank. It's not dick again.
• 39:13
  I'm glad you said that because I have to furiously delete dick out of from
• 39:19
  the answer. I'm just sure what the catalog that just had to like go
• 39:24
  in my brain was, like all the times that smell was related to the
• 39:30
  show. Yeah, there are some funny ones that are outside of this quote.
• 39:35
  Wait you say it one more time. I can. It's I smell
• 39:38
  blank. I'm so glad. I okay, yeah, okay, okay.
• 39:45
  We will look for the correct answer first from Paula. I smell snow.
• 39:50
  I smell snow. Did you have the same gen? Yes, yes,
• 39:52
  I smell snow. That's a point each. But uh, let's let's find
• 39:59
  out what Captain's wrote. Paula what do you what do you think that?
• 40:01
  Drew wrote, he has to have gotten it right because we literally just went
• 40:06
  through all these like Taylors with silmore girls means like yesterday so and one of
• 40:09
  them was too well still remembering the first fall of snow with the picture of
• 40:15
  Laura Lai. So if he doesn't get this right, like, that's it,
• 40:20
  no dinner for him, You're out. Goodbye coffee, coffee Tonight's what?
• 40:30
  It's still no food. It's an educated guest for sure, but uh
• 40:35
  yeah, it's a I'm sorry for a lack of dinner, Drew, Jen
• 40:39
  What do you think Chris wrote? I think he may have remembered one of
• 40:43
  the times where the town smelled like something. So I'm gonna go with eggs.
• 40:49
  I know that sounds so weird. Yeah, could be a volcan no
• 40:52
  nearby? Drew. I really understand you because I also wrote coffee, do
• 41:05
  do me and do me? And Drew good points like separately from our team?
• 41:07
  Are you starting a separate side? Yeah, because this podcast is we
• 41:14
  can't have extra Nay your more guys have one. Okay, Well with that,
• 41:20
  that's the end of round one. Let's ask Rory to calculate the scores.
• 41:23
  Got to put that Yale education to use, right. The scores are
• 41:28
  we have the Vicious trollops on five points and a team by Kirk who are
• 41:31
  also on five points, and I guess gilmour guys have one point. Yes.
• 41:37
  Up next is round two. Why not grab a much needed jumbo coffee?
• 41:42
  Will you let the commercials play so that we can afford our coffees?
• 41:45
  See you after this? Sorry I got lost in the hey mays nac good
• 41:57
  little reference with that, We're back with round two. Round two is called
• 42:02
  fan court. It's the game where our players have to defend popular, controversial
• 42:07
  fan opinions, even if they don't agree with them. And if you do
• 42:12
  agree with them, well, this'll be easy for you, I guess,
• 42:15
  but it is a couple's game, still going to make things a touch more
• 42:19
  difficult than our regular fan court entries. Once they receive their statement, each
• 42:24
  team will have two minutes to defend that statement. The problem is the first
• 42:29
  minute will fall on the shoulders of our captains, and then it will be
• 42:32
  up to our experts to try and save it in the second minute of the
• 42:37
  argument. I'll then score each team one to five points. Based on how
• 42:40
  well they made their case. I was going to have the team currently losing
• 42:45
  choose between a category of what type of argument they like, but it's five
• 42:49
  apiece, so I'll ask the guests who aren't physically here in the room,
• 42:53
  would you like to defend a popular controversial fan opinion about boyfriends or mothers?
• 43:00
  Ooh yeah, I'm gonna go with mothers. So your boyfriends, damn.
• 43:07
  So your statement that you have to defend, no matter how you feel about
• 43:12
  it is Emily Gilmore was right about everything. Oh let me know where to
• 43:17
  start. Whenever you already, Drew take it away and I'll let you know
• 43:21
  when a minute has passed. Emily Gilmore is ultimately a misunderstood character. She's
• 43:25
  not always in the right element and time, she grew up a different place.
• 43:30
  But what she gets across, what she means in her heart, what
• 43:34
  she wants to happen, is always for the best of everyone, and she
• 43:37
  truly is right all of the time, whether it be talking to Rory about
• 43:42
  her being in school or Lauraa and how she raises Rory. Yes, sometimes
• 43:46
  it can seem like they're butting heads, but ultimately she's right. She knows
• 43:51
  what she's doing. At the end of the day, she is not the
• 43:55
  perfect mother. No one is perfect. Everyone is fallible. But when it
• 44:00
  comes to her advice, especially to her daughter and granddaughter, she is in
• 44:04
  the right and she knows what she's talking about. Even in her other non
• 44:09
  familial territories, like the DAR, she is still the best at that,
• 44:14
  and everyone else tries to run the DAR I from under her is clearly wrong.
• 44:16
  I mean, come on, if there's one spot we can agree on,
• 44:21
  Emily is in charge. It's running an event, all right. It
• 44:23
  is time to hand the button over to your teammates. Take it away,
• 44:28
  Paula, Well, you set me up for success, because I truly agree
• 44:30
  Emily. Her method may be unconventional at times, maybe a little bit not
• 44:37
  the best way or not the way I would do things if ever I was
• 44:42
  a mother, But her heart is always in the right place, her idea
• 44:47
  and her goals for the future, and like them right away. So like
• 44:52
  she's able to kind of clock when someone is worth your time when someone is
• 44:57
  not. She is. You know, she's got really high standards, and
• 45:04
  I think that that's something to be admired. Right. She doesn't take anything
• 45:07
  that's half ass if those candlesticks are not exactly what is it four inches apart?
• 45:12
  Right? Like? That is not acceptable. You do it right,
• 45:15
  or you don't bother doing it at all. And that's why she goes through
• 45:19
  so many maids, because she's got to hold them to that standards. She
• 45:22
  expects it, she expects it perfectly dead on the time. That that's perfect.
• 45:27
  That was a really good argument. I came into this thinking she was
• 45:30
  one of the worst characters in the whole thing, but you two just about
• 45:32
  convinced me that I love it. Yeah, I mean, for all the
• 45:37
  reasons you said, absolutely won me over. Yeah, she's from a different
• 45:43
  generation, right, Like, she had no access to feminism in any way.
• 45:45
  So she is the way she is because of the patriarchy. Is that
• 45:49
  fair to say just blame men when you can. I'm on board. Yeah.
• 45:53
  Out of five points, I'm going to give you four points. You
• 45:57
  defended Emily Gilmore's character very well. Then with me. Okay, we're back,
• 46:02
  hopefully, dear listener. Other than this sentence right now, you won't
• 46:06
  have realized, but we just took a week long break because of tech issues
• 46:10
  here at gate Leaper's HQ. So how is everyone again? Doing good and
• 46:15
  fantastic. Yes, good, thank you so much for coming back a whole
• 46:19
  week later. Highlight up top. We went from one dog and some tech
• 46:23
  issues to three dogs, so hopefully issues. Yeah, hopefully more dogs kind
• 46:30
  of resolves all those So I think that's isn't that one of the laws of
• 46:35
  science that more dogs resolves tech issues? I think I work adjacent to scientists,
• 46:40
  and I'm pretty sure that that's I'm pretty sure that that's that's correct.
• 46:45
  I know I have no choice but to believe you as a person on a
• 46:46
  podcast, as an IT professional, you're saying I should adopt some dogs.
• 46:50
  Yes, absolutely, Hey, baby, heard them so vicious. That means
• 47:00
  you are left with a difficult fan opinion to defend about boyfriends, and your
• 47:06
  statement is Dean was the best partner for Rory. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
• 47:15
  it's fine. No, it's totally fine. I know we can definitely
• 47:17
  m okay, okay, And as as per the rules of this couple versus
• 47:22
  couple fan caught, it will be Chris taking the lead on the argument for
• 47:25
  the first minute, with Jen hopefully picking up the pieces and forming some kind
• 47:30
  of fan accurate argument. Okay, there's gonna be a lot of grunting on
• 47:37
  my end. No, I'm just kidding from you and the dogs. We'll
• 47:40
  say the docks. We'll say the dog. All right, whenever you're ready,
• 47:44
  Chris, I'll start the timer. Dean. Dean is by far the
• 47:50
  best boyfriend that Rory had. Better than than freaking logan, nepotism, Huntsberger,
• 47:57
  better than gas lighting Jess. Okay, the worst part of Dean and
• 48:04
  Rory's relationship was when they weren't even in a relationship. It was when Dean
• 48:07
  was cheating on his wife with Rory. That was by far the worst part
• 48:12
  of them together. And they weren't technically together. So them as a high
• 48:17
  school couple, a standard regular high school couple, Okay, they both had
• 48:23
  problems. He's not perfect, no, but he was like eighteen, Okay,
• 48:31
  he just fell in love with a cute girl from his high school.
• 48:36
  All right, who's he's He's an emotional little guy. Okay, leave,
• 48:42
  you can end johof of the argument on he's an emotional little guy, James
• 48:45
  emotionally shit. Great segue. Yeah, so I'd highlight with the statement Dean
• 48:52
  was the best partner for Rory in high school when Rory was also dealing with
• 48:57
  moving through and being an only child who oftentimes had a lot of attention.
• 49:01
  The town loved her. She was constantly in the eye of you're doing this,
• 49:06
  You're gonna be a reindeer, You're gonna be a you know, all
• 49:08
  of these different things during different town events. Having someone who gave her more
• 49:15
  attention, I think actually really helped her learn how much of that, like
• 49:19
  center Stage, she didn't love, but what aspects she did like of it,
• 49:23
  which did you know, lead into the rest of the character. But
• 49:27
  to in the events of Dean, I will say that poor boy was sixteen
• 49:31
  and had multiple thirty two year old men try to fight him literally walk outside
• 49:36
  of buildings and throw fists with a child while he was coming in as a
• 49:40
  new student learning more about Rory. He literally almost went to blows with multiple
• 49:45
  adults, which could go to your head. And as someone who has been
• 49:49
  the new person many a time, if I just was at a place for
• 49:52
  a month and then a grown ass man came up to me and wanted to
• 49:54
  throw cuffs because I liked a girl, I might also react poorly. Yeah,
• 50:00
  that's that's fair, that's your that's your time, and you got you
• 50:04
  got that statement in Before Before the Time. Yeah, I just have to
• 50:07
  say, I don't think anyone ever described Dean as small as the boyfriend that
• 50:15
  the tallest man to exist in most realities, he's a tall guy's emotion exactly.
• 50:22
  He's just don't help them. He's a big boy. But he's a
• 50:28
  little guy, all right. Little guy's a state of mind exactly exactly,
• 50:34
  and Dean is that. I think deep down we're all little guys, and
• 50:38
  in a way we're all Dean inside. Oh god, I don't know if
• 50:44
  you want to make that. Yeah, I take it back. That's that's
• 50:49
  true, not coming. I mean, I think you did a pretty good
• 50:53
  job considering that was a tough statement. I'd love to hear, Paula,
• 50:58
  what did you think? How well do you think they did Dean? I
• 51:00
  don't know. I think it's it's in defense of Dean as a human,
• 51:04
  but Dean as a boyfriend, I don't know. What is a boyfriend but
• 51:08
  a human though, a human that you were choosing to coke, habit,
• 51:13
  date and be with. It's a human plus things fair, I've got that.
• 51:20
  Chris spent the first thirty seconds defaming of the boyfriends, which in a
• 51:22
  court a court of law does not stand up in a state of defense.
• 51:27
  Also, that they were just a lot of Chris's argument was that they's just
• 51:30
  a standard high school couple, you know, just an everyday high school couple,
• 51:34
  which yeah, I guess you could say like relationship immaturity that definitely stands
• 51:37
  there. So that's that's valid. Yeah, that's kind of what I meant,
• 51:40
  I guess by like it's a high school couple, Yeah, which yeah,
• 51:46
  absolutely, which Jen built on really well by saying that like Dean filled
• 51:52
  Rory's needs at that exact moment of needing the attention of something that drew her
• 51:55
  away from the town. So yeah, I get it, and grown men
• 52:00
  point very valid as well. So I'm also going to give you guys full
• 52:02
  points now that we're past the points. My favorite thing about having Chris watched
• 52:08
  the entire series last year was every time that he's like, I'm fuck Dean,
• 52:15
  but also like, why is Luke constantly wanting to throw fists with him?
• 52:17
  He is a junior in high school and Luke is like minimum thirty three
• 52:23
  years old, and with all of Rory's boyfriends, he just wants to fight
• 52:28
  all of them. And I'm like, dude, you're an adult. What
• 52:31
  are you doing? I mean, I think for Dean, the argument is
• 52:35
  that he looks like an adult. True, so you forgets to be fair.
• 52:38
  I'm pretty sure Jared Peladaki was like twenty, so maybe that was a
• 52:44
  factor. Yeah, those thirty five year old men just chase a twenty year
• 52:46
  old. It's all right, it's better. I'm thirty two and I get
• 52:51
  in fights with twenty year olds all the time. But enough about your weekends.
• 52:57
  Let's move on to another round of fan court. This time we have
• 53:02
  two categories to choose from, just like last time, and this time it
• 53:07
  is Lorelei or Rory. It's if you would like a statement about Lorelei or
• 53:12
  Rory, and it's some statement about one or other two. Okay, yes,
• 53:17
  yes, yes, we are still firmly in fan court. I know
• 53:21
  it's been a week. Also, I had to remind myself the recess for
• 53:25
  a while, exactly just like real court. So vicious trollops. I think
• 53:31
  it is your turn to decide which of these you would like. I would
• 53:35
  say, Laura La Yeah, Laura okay. With Lorelei, okay, it
• 53:42
  might be a tougher argument to make, even if she is the safer girl,
• 53:46
  because I've seen I saw this argument across the internet. Lorelei Gilmore is
• 53:52
  a bad mother. Laura Gilmore is a bad mother. So you have to
• 53:57
  defend that statement, no matter what you think about it. Hmm. Okay,
• 54:05
  okah, yeah, I think, I think, Okay, I think
• 54:07
  I'm ready. All right, take it away. Okay. So Flora Gilmore
• 54:13
  is a terrible mother, all right? And how better do we know that
• 54:17
  is? Because she raised debatably the worst person in all of Gilmore Rory?
• 54:22
  All right, Like what else do I need to even say at that point?
• 54:27
  Rory? She just does not know how to function well in interpersonal relationships,
• 54:34
  professionally, romantically. And all of that came from her main character mom,
• 54:40
  because like, come on, how can you have a good be grounded
• 54:45
  as a person when your mom is the main character and makes you also her
• 54:52
  side mate, her co star in a tiny town where everyone co signs on
• 54:58
  you being the main character. You're so Loralai is a bad person, just
• 55:05
  bad person. I'm just kidding. She's a bad mother. She's a bad
• 55:07
  mother because of all that, very good That is your time. We'll hand
• 55:12
  it over to Jen. Take it away. Yeah, So I would emphasize
• 55:15
  the aspects of the town and the way in which that she created an environment
• 55:22
  where her daughter to speak to her motherhood. Her daughter was not given proper
• 55:29
  boundaries or learned how to create boundaries, but that Lorali controlled those boundaries when
• 55:36
  it would serve LAURALI. So one being, as we look at our previous
• 55:42
  argument being the relationship with Dean, Loralai wanted Wory to get out of the
• 55:46
  environment that she grew up in a lah Emiline Richard and kind of the wealthy
• 55:52
  Connecticut life, so it was very jazzed and was blinded to all of the
• 55:57
  unhealthy behaviors that happened in that relationship and in most cases defended the boyfriend and
• 56:02
  not taught her daughter how to not be in an emotionally relationship and because of
• 56:08
  that then shooting her into while the Connecticut wealth just confused and ended up making
• 56:15
  it so that she wasn't able to make healthy boundaries and basically every setting,
• 56:20
  which I do think is a key factor of being good mother, fair enough,
• 56:23
  good, good point. You're always going to win me over by bringing
• 56:27
  wealth into it as well. Before I'd like to ask, just because I'm
• 56:30
  curious Paula Drew, how do you think they did that? Defending that statement
• 56:34
  A plus plus plus plus What is the measure of a good parent if not
• 56:39
  how their children turn out? And you know, you could say boundaries was
• 56:47
  you know, it was a different time and now she should have taught just
• 56:53
  how to behave in the world. So yes, I what a wonderful argument.
• 56:59
  Like feels to cop out to go after Rory so hard in a Lareli
• 57:02
  defense. I realized I was doing that like halfway through, and I said,
• 57:07
  oh shit, I'm really digging into Rory. But that's it, like
• 57:15
  your daughter is a reflection of your your mothering. Like as much as I
• 57:17
  love LAURALI, you're right I think her biggest flaws are mother related. Yeah.
• 57:22
  I think you were stepping close into the defamation again, Chris, But
• 57:27
  like a good team, Jen managed to pick it up and run with the
• 57:30
  oh yeah, this is why it's a bad reflection of and brought up the
• 57:36
  boundaries as Paula said, yeah, it's that was a really strong argument.
• 57:40
  I I did also enjoy at one point, how Chris, you got a
• 57:44
  little matter by being like, how how can she be a good person?
• 57:47
  Her mother is the co star is the star, and she made her the
• 57:51
  Coast star. Also, no man character has a chance in anything ever,
• 57:55
  then, yeah, yeah, for sure, how dare the main character?
• 58:00
  Honestly shit, every single main character is a bad person. And that's what
• 58:07
  I learned from community. Yeah, main characters, stop having main characters syndrome.
• 58:16
  Check out the community gate leabers. Yes, I think I won that
• 58:22
  one. I'm also realizing my podcast is very similar in that energy of screw
• 58:29
  main characters. Damn it. I was very valid with Supernatural though. To
• 58:34
  be fair, now that that aside, Chris, that little funny Messa thing
• 58:38
  aside, I'm giving you the full five points. I love the argument.
• 58:43
  I loved how you showed the cooperation uh and picking up on each other's argument.
• 58:45
  Good stuff. Oh god, I'm worried. What do we have to
• 58:47
  defend? Well, it's funny you should say that because what we have here.
• 58:58
  I may have mentioned throughout this at the top of the show that Rory
• 59:00
  is very much viewed as the villain of Gilmore Girls by so many people in
• 59:06
  the in the fan community. But a team by Kirk, the team you
• 59:09
  will have to defend very much. As Paula exactly predicted, is Rory is
• 59:15
  the hero of Gilmore Girls. You wouldn't think, you wouldn't think it's a
• 59:19
  controversial opinion, but it really is. I also just may just say how
• 59:23
  riled up Drew is that I can literally hear him. It's a round sound,
• 59:28
  like he's in the basement right now and I'm upstairs and I can hear
• 59:32
  him through the headbones from another floor. This is how much she's gotten riled
• 59:38
  up over this topic. Okay, it's only it's a shame. You've only
• 59:45
  got sixty seconds. Take it away when you're ready. So Ory truly is
• 59:47
  the hero of I wouldn't say so much of the show, but of Starr's
• 59:51
  Hollow, which is where the show takes place. She has been raised to
• 59:54
  be the star against her will. The entire town treats her like some sort
• 1:00:00
  of icon, her mother the pseudo mayor of the town. The way the
• 1:00:05
  shops talk about her, the way the town just comes together any event they're
• 1:00:07
  doing. Rory has put on a friggin pedestal Carrie throughout the town. She's
• 1:00:13
  the Winter Princess. She's the star of every show they do, unless it's
• 1:00:15
  the dance recycle for some reason. Then it's always a little kids, but
• 1:00:19
  she is like idolized in this way by this town that puts her on this
• 1:00:22
  pedestal, which makes it hard for her to exist in the real world outside
• 1:00:27
  of Stars Hollow. So we are seeing a main character have to deal with
• 1:00:31
  reality when reality isn't what she was led to believe. So she truly is
• 1:00:37
  the hero that we all need, someone who deals with real life and has
• 1:00:42
  to see the consequences of, you know, being told you're the greatest writer
• 1:00:45
  of all time. Here's a free town paper that you can run, so
• 1:00:49
  you then go to school to become a writer and find out maybe she's not
• 1:00:52
  the best writer and had there been more critical Okay, that's your time,
• 1:00:55
  Drew. I'm sorry, but that was excellent stuff. We'll had to over
• 1:00:58
  to Paula now to finish the argument. So look, Rory, as we
• 1:01:01
  said, she is the hero of Stars Hollow, but that continues with her
• 1:01:06
  anywhere else she goes, Right, she goes to Chilton, she shows up
• 1:01:09
  late to Chilton, she doesn't start with all these kids, and she's immediately
• 1:01:14
  like shoots to the top is number one, is valedictorian, right, So
• 1:01:17
  everywhere she goes she is a hero. And when we're talking about her being
• 1:01:22
  the hero of Gilmore Girls, right, Gilmore Girls, first of all,
• 1:01:24
  would not exist without Rory. But they were going to do a show about
• 1:01:28
  Laurelai at Emily. They were never going to be the gil Margots. It
• 1:01:31
  was always going to be all about Rory. From the moment that Rory was
• 1:01:36
  born. Life, the world, the grandparents, the people in the town,
• 1:01:40
  it was always going to be all about this child. It's like baby
• 1:01:45
  Jesus happened to Laura Lai, the perfect person, and you know she takes
• 1:01:52
  that with her. She goes to Yale. Oh, all of a sudden,
• 1:01:54
  she's in charge. She's the editor of the paper. She is just
• 1:01:59
  like ruling the world. That's perfectly on the That is your time. In
• 1:02:05
  conclusion, Gilbour Girls is a modern retelling of the Bible and Jesus, Oh
• 1:02:12
  my God, because war life would be God? Or is it the other
• 1:02:15
  way? Jesus man? I think on that for a while. I think,
• 1:02:22
  or does Christopher become God? And I am wish. I don't really
• 1:02:30
  know. We believe Rory was a pretty great person, but not our Messiah.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah, for sure, for sure. I love that. I really
• 1:02:40
  love the like hero of Stars Hall and just one of the best arguments of
• 1:02:45
  what Drew said. I go to the scene where she's supposed to be ice
• 1:02:47
  cream Queen and right we're going to college, and Taylor's like, yeah,
• 1:02:52
  because our ice cream queen didn't have time to be here, and she's like
• 1:02:58
  she goes up on the stage. I've business. I've been a program every
• 1:03:01
  time for Thanksgiving, I'm in every single everything, like I can't do this
• 1:03:06
  one. I'm sorry, drop my back, and like Gen slapsile stage and
• 1:03:12
  it's one of the best scenes of like kind of breaking the meta of the
• 1:03:15
  town. And I think it was like a really interesting moment from a writer's
• 1:03:17
  perspective to be like, yeah, there is a transition here. She's going
• 1:03:22
  after college now, like this is them the week of them having to buy
• 1:03:23
  all of her school supplies to go to college, and how that really determines
• 1:03:28
  the way because Lorelei is always stars Hollow, Rory is stars Hollow, Chiltern,
• 1:03:34
  Yale and beyond, and so it's like we're really following her when we
• 1:03:37
  see and like feel big shifts in the show. And then I just want
• 1:03:42
  to like I'm actually myself. Since you said editor of the Yale Daily News
• 1:03:45
  in My autistic Panic my Brain, last clip of the episode the other part
• 1:03:52
  two of this again It's been a week. I mentioned that the go get
• 1:03:58
  a Hooker line was from Paris talking about her tutoring in the Yale Daily News,
• 1:04:02
  which sounds Banana's the second I realized what I did, because she would
• 1:04:06
  be talking to children and not adults, but that is her like editorship once
• 1:04:14
  Doyle leaves her, like speech in taking over the Yale Daily News before Rory
• 1:04:18
  takes over when Paris loses her mind when trying to run it, which we
• 1:04:25
  literally just watched that episode, but just wanted to highlight if you are a
• 1:04:29
  go my Girls fan and felt pain when I said that thirty minutes ago.
• 1:04:33
  Know that I realized it at one am my message both Drew and Matt be
• 1:04:38
  like, I booked up. I showed Paul the message the next morning she
• 1:04:42
  goes, yeah, but I want to get a correct grown there. That's
• 1:04:45
  he's rude. The other thing I was like, damn, if I was
• 1:04:47
  in Paul's position, I'd be like, I don't want to say anything,
• 1:04:49
  but like that's totally wrong. So it was also taking weight off, like
• 1:04:55
  I like the best friendship we're building right there is going to step in and
• 1:05:00
  yeah, it was just a funny moment to be like one am like,
• 1:05:03
  hey, mad sorry you're asleep. I don't know what time in the Canada,
• 1:05:06
  but I yes, I don't know what time it is in Canada.
• 1:05:13
  We have six times all of the time, which one of all. But
• 1:05:20
  it's also good to hear you admit, Jen, you being the cause of
• 1:05:24
  the tech issues so that you could actually correct stuff when was looking during No,
• 1:05:33
  there you go, you were You were only wrong for about thirty minutes.
• 1:05:38
  As far as anyone is consented, it is just so hard to defend
• 1:05:42
  Rory because all I could ever think about is like, what if every other
• 1:05:45
  child in starts Hall of the Things they live their lives? Does Elaine live?
• 1:05:51
  It's lane never like there's a whole high school in that town. Yeah,
• 1:05:57
  people have grown up. It's at the first sixty hearing their lives and
• 1:06:00
  so much shatter. I think you took the perfect angle with the defenses that
• 1:06:06
  like it, both in terms of how it's written and then just how the
• 1:06:11
  town treats her, like, yeah, of course she's the hero. She's
• 1:06:14
  made to be the hero. Against her own will. So when she acts
• 1:06:16
  a bit like a villain, what you're supposed to do, she's just being
• 1:06:19
  rebellious. That's what That's what heroes do. So yeah, the full five
• 1:06:23
  points for a team by kirk Okay, that's the end of the round.
• 1:06:27
  Let's ask Michelle to calculate the latest scores and deliver them in a beautiful French
• 1:06:31
  accent or whatever that was. And those scores are vicious Trollops are on fourteen
• 1:06:38
  points, and a team by Kirka also on fourteen points. It's still all
• 1:06:42
  tied. Mother of God, that's better. Round three next, But first,
• 1:06:49
  some ads. It really helps keep this podcast alive if you don't skip
• 1:06:54
  them. Just think of me as one of those buskers from Stars Hollow,
• 1:06:57
  except instead of beautiful melodic turn of the millennium acoustics, you get highly specific
• 1:07:02
  fandom references like this one. See you after this. Round three is called
• 1:07:14
  mister and Missus versus miss and miss although it's technically mister and missus and mister
• 1:07:18
  and Missus versus miss and miss but that takes too long to say, so
• 1:07:23
  I shortened it. I'll cut that explanation. And this one in this game
• 1:07:28
  I'll be testing our couples to see how well they know not each other,
• 1:07:31
  but the iconic pair of lourele I and Rory. In turn, I'll ask
• 1:07:35
  mister and missus style questions about one of the Gilmore girls, like what's Laurel's
• 1:07:41
  favorite drink. I'll then count down from three, and our couples will have
• 1:07:45
  to answer at the exact same time. If their answer matches, they get
• 1:07:48
  two points. If only one person says the correct answer, it'll be one
• 1:07:54
  point, and then we'll interrogate the incorrect answer because that'll be funny to do.
• 1:07:59
  And all of this info is from the fandom wiki, so if it's
• 1:08:01
  wrong, blame the moderators. Always blame the moderate Okay, so we will
• 1:08:10
  begin with vicious trollops. What is Laureli's favorite band? Or who is Loreli's
• 1:08:15
  favorite band? Bands are people? I'm so angry because I know the exact
• 1:08:18
  episode where she says it. Oh my god, I have my answer.
• 1:08:24
  I don't think it's right, but I'm gonna say it all right. I'll
• 1:08:27
  do the countdown and as close to on zero as you possibly can. Three,
• 1:08:30
  two, one, it's not I'm so mad. Oh two fantastic cancers
• 1:08:42
  there. What's the other answer was Creed and we have the Rolling Stones and
• 1:08:45
  Creed. It's not I'm so mad say the right answer unless they have to
• 1:08:51
  do it too. I mean, Paula, do you know the right answer?
• 1:08:54
  There's no points on the line, but I'm curious, is it the
• 1:08:57
  Bangal? It is the Bengals? Yeah, the Bengals or which I wasn't
• 1:09:04
  going to think of. But then she also mentions the band t shirts that
• 1:09:08
  she put were and it was a different band, Yeah, rolling Rolling Stones,
• 1:09:12
  like an evergreen band. That is a good guess that would fit in
• 1:09:15
  with Loreliza their interests, and they correct answer. It should have been the
• 1:09:20
  correct answer. Larelized wrong, just I know they go to the Bengals line,
• 1:09:29
  it's the only band I think they actually ever go to, like when
• 1:09:31
  we see like footage of so it was the only band I could think of.
• 1:09:34
  So I was like, it's probably the Bengals, but actually be wrong.
• 1:09:38
  And there was the whole every one of these wrong in the episode.
• 1:09:41
  There's a whole backstory about how much she loves them. Yeah. Someone on
• 1:09:45
  the fandom wiki claimed that it's also tied with the Go Gos because she mentions
• 1:09:50
  the Go Goes as well, but the Bengals. She says that her favorite
• 1:09:55
  small Times, and there's a whole episode as well devoted to them. That
• 1:09:58
  makes sense, So no points that, But I enjoyed hearing Creed referenced.
• 1:10:02
  That's always fun, So we will move over to it. As a Canadian,
• 1:10:11
  do you not defend Nickelback? Is that? Are they not your cultural
• 1:10:14
  output? Nod? Okay, okay, I like the New Pornographers. There's
• 1:10:19
  a lot of good Canadian bands to Yeah. Of course Michelle's favorite singer.
• 1:10:29
  Absolutely, everyone knows that it's Creed. Okay, A team by Kirk.
• 1:10:36
  We're still talking about Laurel I here, So what is Laureli's favorite flower?
• 1:10:43
  What is Laureli's favorite flower? Oh? Okay, I think I have an
• 1:10:47
  answer. I'm locked in. I'm gonna do the countdown and on three as
• 1:10:50
  close to it at the same time as possible three two one. It is
• 1:10:58
  indeed yellow daisies. Paula has the right answer there. There's there's a whole
• 1:11:01
  episode about that. Max is beautiful. Yes, she turns down the sunflowers.
• 1:11:10
  Where do they come up somewhere? Am I crazy? What is a
• 1:11:13
  sunflower? If not just a really big yellow daisy. You know exactly,
• 1:11:17
  that's what I see, what you're saying. But for the purposes of this
• 1:11:20
  game, no, everyone knows the plant classifications. There's cactus, rose,
• 1:11:25
  yellow flowers. Yeah exactly, Yeah, our good good knowledge there, Paula,
• 1:11:29
  that's a that's a point of her team by Kirk. That still it
• 1:11:31
  still makes me laugh every time. Okay, still on lorele I here,
• 1:11:38
  but we will move back on over to Vicious Trollops. What does Suki consider
• 1:11:42
  to be the only happy part of laurelized childhood? What does Suki consider to
• 1:11:47
  be the only happy part of Lorelized childhood? Listening to Creed naturally? Just
• 1:11:56
  god stop specifically? Oh? Okay, got it? Wow, Okay,
• 1:12:01
  Okay, I'm going to do the countdown. Okay, three two, one's
• 1:12:08
  friendship. Okay, it's actually a sweet answer from Chris, but it's very
• 1:12:11
  wrong. It is indeed her doll house. Oh right, is it?
• 1:12:17
  I can't I know I've seen this episode, but I can't remember. Is
• 1:12:20
  it? It's jack very lavish? She is over. Yeah, it's really
• 1:12:24
  lavish dollhouse. Jackson stays over at Laura Lei's because he's sick or something.
• 1:12:28
  I don't remember, but he like falls on it and breaks it. She's
• 1:12:31
  like, it's the only happy part of childhood, and then she has to
• 1:12:34
  go, oh yeah, okay, yeah, sorry. Could have easily been
• 1:12:41
  Chris, I suppose in some way, not as far as Richard and Emily
• 1:12:44
  are concerned. Okay, A team by Kirk. Here is your question,
• 1:12:49
  the final one about Lorelei. How did Laura I break her leg at age
• 1:12:55
  twenty nine? How did Laurel I break her leg at age twenty nine?
• 1:13:00
  Oh no, oh, oh dear, I have unanswered. It's not the
• 1:13:05
  right one, but I have one really good questions. Let's i'll do the
• 1:13:09
  countdown. We'll see three two one. Impressing a boy. So impressing a
• 1:13:16
  boy and trip tripped over tripped over a tennis net is what I was going
• 1:13:19
  to say, over tripped over a tennis net. It's a I mean,
• 1:13:24
  that's but yeah, equally whimsical as the real answer. I think it was
• 1:13:29
  attempting a headstand in yoga class, which, oh dear, I now feel
• 1:13:33
  like I need to look at that episode to see if it was to impress
• 1:13:36
  a boy in some way, like I mean, in fact, it was
• 1:13:40
  in a yoga class. I'm probably gonna say no, probably not. Probably
• 1:13:45
  well, age twenty nine. Age twenty nine is before the show, right,
• 1:13:48
  because when the show starts, she's thirty two. So it's some batcollar
• 1:13:51
  reference. Yeah, yes, definitely some reference to why she's not why she
• 1:13:57
  doesn't do things athletic. I do just want to call it, Paul,
• 1:14:00
  because I almost said the same thing, only because it's how my brother broke
• 1:14:02
  his arm. Okay, where my brain? What? You gotta watch those
• 1:14:10
  nets? You know he did it to impress a girl. Create a backstory
• 1:14:15
  from us. We're going to be wrong with style, all right? Should
• 1:14:23
  we move on to Rory have some mercy? How well you know the other
• 1:14:26
  half of this show's iconic duo see okay, vicious trollops. Here is your
• 1:14:30
  first question about Rory. In which class did Rory get her first ever d's?
• 1:14:38
  In which class did Rory get her first ever D? Which I understand
• 1:14:42
  in America is a fail It's no passing fail. Failure is only it's a
• 1:14:46
  passing fail. Oh really, get do then that's the like American He's get
• 1:14:56
  elephants? What is this what we're doing? There's no It goes from D
• 1:15:00
  to always bothered me. Oh there's no E. Yeah, interesting, Yeah,
• 1:15:04
  you should have been for like emergency school meeting. I don't know you're
• 1:15:10
  gonna f You're gonna we used to say for effort for FM. So sorry,
• 1:15:16
  Oh no, I remember the question. Okay, are you ready for
• 1:15:23
  the countdown? Yeah? Sure? Three? Two? One? Financial class
• 1:15:29
  at Yale. Okay, you've got financial class at Yale and math. It
• 1:15:32
  is no either of those, Paula. Do you know the answer to this
• 1:15:35
  one? It was English? I believe is English? English? Was it
• 1:15:41
  in Caldron? Does she gets like multiple? Okay, specify you first or
• 1:15:49
  just he said first? Her first D was dan. All right, let's
• 1:15:56
  get that's true. I was gonna make that same shot. I don't worry.
• 1:16:00
  Somebody had to. She does get to be on a finish. She
• 1:16:02
  does get a D in some financial thought about English. But then I was
• 1:16:06
  just like, that doesn't make any sense for Rory to get a D.
• 1:16:10
  I think that's why they didn't. Yeah. Yeah, but it was with
• 1:16:13
  Max Medina. Max is the one who told LAURALI and relationships, right,
• 1:16:20
  my god, it's all coming together. Ask the question again. We got
• 1:16:24
  it this time. No redos, there's no tax issues. This time.
• 1:16:31
  Okay, A seam by carries your question about Rory. Who is Rory's journalistic
• 1:16:38
  idol? You could broadly say who is her idol? As well? Who
• 1:16:41
  is Rory's journalistic idol. It's like one of those things where I can distinctly
• 1:16:45
  recall the name coming up in conversations with Richard, but I can't name a
• 1:16:49
  single journalist because I'm a degenerate. I know, like the initials, like,
• 1:16:56
  I know what it starts with, but I'm having trouble put it because
• 1:16:59
  it's actually like a real person who eventually guests on the show, but I
• 1:17:03
  can't remember her actual name, despite how famous she is. I think because
• 1:17:08
  it is hearing that it is tougher. If you get like either her first
• 1:17:12
  name or her last name, I'll give you it. I won't change my
• 1:17:15
  answer because the one I had was male, but I'll just go with my
• 1:17:16
  head. Oh shoot, it's all good. Of course, Rory's idol is
• 1:17:21
  female. She's not going to idolize a man. Come on now, all
• 1:17:25
  right, it suck. So here we go three two one something with an
• 1:17:31
  area. It's not medaling, all right, it's you know, it's a
• 1:17:40
  it's Christianne Amanpour. Oh my lord, I was off completely And yeah,
• 1:17:45
  Paulie, you're absolutely right. She does guests and the show guests in season
• 1:17:48
  seven because she's at the inn and she's like Christian Jamier is at the end
• 1:17:53
  and she's like, no, she's not. She shows up in her pajamas
• 1:17:55
  and she's like, you didn't tell me. I told you to change.
• 1:18:00
  Fantastic. Yeah. I love that they had the actual character guest as well,
• 1:18:04
  Like I say, character, real person. Okay, And as you
• 1:18:08
  can tell, these Rory ones are harder because I classificate classicate leaper's fashion.
• 1:18:12
  I wanted the questions to get harder throughout the round. So I think this
• 1:18:15
  next question is emblematic of that. Okay, Vicious, what time exactly was
• 1:18:24
  Rory born? That's what time exactly was Rory born, which, of course
• 1:18:28
  is something we all know about us significant others that we can all do in
• 1:18:31
  a standard game of mister and missus. That's actually say mine, and if
• 1:18:35
  you didn't, it would be very confusing why we do in an entire tradition
• 1:18:40
  around my birth hour. Sometimes I forget about why traditions happen, though,
• 1:18:44
  so it took me a second just now to remember all right, I remember,
• 1:18:47
  it's fine, Okay, we can have a time in my head from
• 1:18:54
  all of those. I don't know how many possible minutes there are to choose
• 1:18:57
  from. How many minutes are in a day at least a hand go to
• 1:19:00
  be at least a handful of minutes, all right, bare minimum minute min
• 1:19:05
  uh okay, three, two, one, eleven eight. I had two
• 1:19:13
  am and I heard eleven forty eight. I love how specific that was because
• 1:19:16
  it was also a specific time. The actual answer, Paula, do you
• 1:19:20
  know this something in the four o'clock hour? It is? Yeah, it's
• 1:19:24
  it's four oh three am in the morning. Yes, yeah, it was
• 1:19:30
  in the morning. Yeah, I knew. I remember talking about like her
• 1:19:32
  being born at night, So I guess I'm wrong. That's kind of what
• 1:19:35
  I was thinking. It was called into bed. Well, yeah, four
• 1:19:39
  oh three in the morning. Exact moment, Yeah, exact moment. Thing
• 1:19:45
  a couple of times. But like maybe if you're thinking the night time,
• 1:19:47
  she does go in when they do the flashback episode, she goes in at
• 1:19:51
  night. But then you, you know, have labor that makes sense checks,
• 1:19:59
  So you're very familiar Chris with all the labor he's been in and around
• 1:20:06
  so much, so much labor. Okay, yeah, these are these are
• 1:20:11
  tough questions. Definitely think I get yeah, okay, those too mentioned there,
• 1:20:16
  but these these last two questions definitely just things mentioned in conversations. So
• 1:20:20
  a team by Kirk. Here is your question, as a child, what
• 1:20:25
  happened to Rory on that pony ride? As a child, what happened to
• 1:20:30
  Rory on that pony ride? I can recall this conversation. I think I
• 1:20:34
  know what this is. I got nothing even as a super fan. This
• 1:20:38
  is tough. I can remember the scene around this conversation. All right,
• 1:20:45
  I'm ready. You got an answer, Pola, I'll go with the one
• 1:20:48
  that's in my head. Nice? Nice, all right? Three? Two
• 1:20:54
  one? It ran away? You both, I mean you both said the
• 1:20:58
  same thing. Good job matching on the the same time. Incorrect answer.
• 1:21:02
  I feel like Jen might know. Sorry, Uh, it died, Yes,
• 1:21:09
  it did die. The pony died once she got on it, and
• 1:21:15
  start right away, so they were kind of right from the point to heaven.
• 1:21:23
  I could give you the point, don't you dare? I'll point.
• 1:21:30
  I never remember the scene, like I remember there being a moment where Rory
• 1:21:32
  is discussing like why she doesn't like being around ponies and horses and it's because
• 1:21:35
  of that memory. Yeah, they also made Lorelai also makes the joke when
• 1:21:40
  she's around the horses at the Dragonfly and she's like, don't get closer,
• 1:21:44
  and she's like, it was one time and it wasn't my fault. Even
• 1:21:49
  the owner said that it was already kind of like like they like she like
• 1:21:54
  justifies the whole like pony ride thing, like the the lore Legs believes her
• 1:21:58
  daughter has the ability to kill horses on worse than ever. All right,
• 1:22:04
  that's the end of round three. Let's ask Richard Gilmore to calculate the latest
• 1:22:10
  scores. Should be easy enough for a guy who made his millions calculating how
• 1:22:14
  to profit from the desperate fuck Richard Gilmore and everything he has his He absolutely
• 1:22:24
  has his sweet moments in the show. The actor's great m He's one of
• 1:22:28
  my favorite characters in I'll be honest. Yeah, very compelling, very compelling.
• 1:22:31
  Okay, let's have a look at those scores. The scores are still
• 1:22:34
  very close. Vicious Trollops are on sixteen points and a team by Kirk just
• 1:22:39
  behind on fifteen points. Were hard. Yeah, that was a very tough
• 1:22:43
  round. Yeah, I contributed absolutely nothing to that round. You referenced Creed.
• 1:22:49
  Come on, you've been wanting to do that on a podcast for ages.
• 1:22:56
  Yeah, let's do Creed way down the line. That's way down the
• 1:23:00
  list. Hey, they're going on tour again, all right, come on.
• 1:23:03
  Single. They're definitely one of those bands where it's like, I'm sure
• 1:23:15
  I have like seven of their songs in my UNEs library, don't know which
• 1:23:18
  ones they are, Oh for sure, they're definitely referenced in the ship.
• 1:23:23
  I'm pretty sure there's a whole pre conversation between Leane and Rory. Interesting,
• 1:23:29
  like someone one of the guys likes Creed and they're just ridiculing him for it.
• 1:23:33
  I don't know if it's one of Lauraied boyfriends or it's probably Dean.
• 1:23:38
  Okay, before we get to the quick fire around, let's talk prizes this
• 1:23:43
  episode. Star prize. It's the concept of independence, Laurel. I did
• 1:23:46
  it and it was good for her. But if you do happen to have
• 1:23:49
  grandparents with toxic amounts of generational wealth, bleed them dry and redistribute it,
• 1:23:56
  you know, to own the cons I don't know, but a winning team
• 1:23:59
  will also receive a full scholarship to Harvard University. Oh oh, you all
• 1:24:06
  want to go to Yale? Now, well this is this is worthless.
• 1:24:10
  Then get rid of that Harvard trash three hundred grand down the drain. But
• 1:24:17
  that's okay. Up next is our crucial quick fire around. After some ads
• 1:24:23
  ads like this one for a hot cup of coffee, a slice of homemade
• 1:24:28
  apple pie, or a home style breakfast to kickstart your day, why not
• 1:24:31
  visit Luke's Diner because it's fictional grower. Our final quick fire around will test
• 1:24:45
  our players broader pop culture knowledge. And it's called Mothers and Daughters because what
• 1:24:50
  else does Gilmore Girls represent more effectively than that special, tumultuous relationship between mothers
• 1:24:57
  and the smaller version of them that they so desperate we want to pilot.
• 1:25:00
  What a cycle? Shout out to my sisters, this sounds like a nightmare.
• 1:25:06
  In this game, I will give our players clues to mother slash daughter
• 1:25:11
  duos from pop culture history. Some are fictional characters and some are irl humans
• 1:25:15
  or you know people. Those clues will be given in the style of the
• 1:25:19
  mom of the duo having a caffeine fueled rant about their daughter's behavior. It's
• 1:25:25
  then up to our players to buzz in and name the daughter of that duo.
• 1:25:30
  Oh, get a point if we name what it's from, but not
• 1:25:34
  the daughter. You know what, if you say the daughter from, I'll
• 1:25:39
  say yes, because some of these can be pretty tough. So if you
• 1:25:42
  say the daughter from and then the property. Hey, I'm terrible at names,
• 1:25:48
  and we buzz in by yelling out our team names. You do.
• 1:25:53
  Indeed, it is quick fire. So you buzz in by yelling out your
• 1:25:56
  team name. So I guess you can reduce it to one word if you'd
• 1:25:59
  like. We're going with Kirk nice, well was vicious? Such doesn't have
• 1:26:09
  the same There is, of course a classic Gates Leapers twist. However,
• 1:26:15
  you need to say go to your room after you say the name of the
• 1:26:18
  daughter, otherwise I cannot. I cannot give you the point. So let's
• 1:26:23
  do a practice one. Well, for one, she stars in the same
• 1:26:27
  kinds of films as me, and she's almost famous for what for knowing how
• 1:26:31
  to lose a guy in ten days? Yes, paula room, Yeah,
• 1:26:36
  exactly, that would be exactly how you do it. Shit, I feel
• 1:26:42
  like this is going to be really good for us, all right, let's
• 1:26:45
  see how this goes. We'll start the timer. Where do I start?
• 1:26:48
  Her rock music is so loud. Oh get this. She hid her belly
• 1:26:53
  button piercing from me and I had to body swap into her. Find out
• 1:26:59
  Friday, that'll do. Yes. Oh, my daughter has spent her life
• 1:27:08
  starring in those space war things, but she was their princess after all.
• 1:27:13
  Yes, and that's gonna be christ just Harry Fisher's daughter who's also in the
• 1:27:16
  Star Wars. Go to your room. Oh interesting, you've gone a generation
• 1:27:19
  down, but you are still technically correct because Carrie Fisher's daughter was also in
• 1:27:24
  Star Wars. So you've you've done the Gilmore Girls thing I was. I
• 1:27:27
  was looking for, sort of going from Debbie Reynolds to Carrie Fisher, then
• 1:27:31
  gone from You've gone from Carrie Fisher. So I've still got to give you
• 1:27:33
  the point. Billy Lord, Billy Lord. I fully forgot that that she
• 1:27:40
  was Debbie reynolds daughter. Holy ship. That's why I was having a moment
• 1:27:43
  like, oh, it's Carrie Fisher, but like is her mother in Star
• 1:27:45
  Wars? I forget. I have like a roll on my head, But
• 1:27:54
  yet I can't believe my daughter lectured my childhood hero. I know us was
• 1:28:00
  everywhere this summer, and it was partly my fault for bringing Barbie home.
• 1:28:03
  But I'm under a lot of stress to be perfect. If my name isn't
• 1:28:08
  America Fererra, it's true, it's gotta be Oh, my god, daughter
• 1:28:15
  in a Barbie movie, Well, it's it's it's whatever her daughter is in
• 1:28:17
  the Barbie movie. That's fine. I included Barbie in the in the answer
• 1:28:23
  there, but that's fine. That was before I realized I was going to
• 1:28:26
  take those take those answers. I'm gonna give you the point from the Barbie
• 1:28:30
  movie. What's her name? Yeah, Sasha is the name of the daughter.
• 1:28:34
  Yeah, my daughter. I mean, I think I'm right when I
• 1:28:42
  say she's literally a multiverse destroying entity called Jobu Tapaki. So this isn't entirely
• 1:28:48
  my fault. But I may also have had a slight problem with her girlfriend
• 1:28:53
  and been mildly homophobic. This is coming from me, the voice of Michelle
• 1:28:58
  Yo. Yes, Paula Stephanie Sue's character in Everything Everywhere, all at once,
• 1:29:04
  Yep, absolutely everything everywhere. Yes, this damn nice and so good,
• 1:29:13
  dang it, okay nice, which I haven't seen, by the way,
• 1:29:15
  which just it is so good. My daughter is ghastly and I adore
• 1:29:27
  it. She's a horrible goth child who recently got asillennial rebrand. Yes,
• 1:29:33
  room, Yes, go to your room Wednesday, Adams. I cannot believe
• 1:29:38
  my only daughter would turn it invisible on me like this. And on top
• 1:29:43
  of that, as I sit here, Oh, I think it was just
• 1:29:45
  Chris that I got through on that visual girl from the Violet from the Incredibles,
• 1:29:50
  go to your room. Yeah, absolutely lovely stuff. If my daughter
• 1:29:57
  thinks she can invite three separate men from I passed this island. Yes,
• 1:30:01
  Chris again, is Chris the daughter from Mom and Me? Go to your
• 1:30:05
  room? Yep, it is, I was, I was a second both,
• 1:30:13
  I'm doing that. I do this one. Sophie is the name of
• 1:30:16
  the character played by Amanda se Fred. She's not my daughter, but she's
• 1:30:20
  still family. But that doesn't mean I can't be mad at her. She
• 1:30:25
  brought a mischievous blue alien. Yes, Chris Ship the daughter from Leelo and
• 1:30:31
  Stitch go to your room. Well, the daughter from Leelan Stitch. Yeah,
• 1:30:36
  Leila, oh sho Ship. I never I'm giving you. I'm giving
• 1:30:44
  you the point I think it actually Win died me, Chris. I think
• 1:30:50
  maybe I've seen that movie once. I don't. I don't remember. Is
• 1:30:56
  like I don't know who. But that's really no excuse. Her name is
• 1:30:59
  in the title of the movie. It's it was the realization. It's like
• 1:31:06
  what no, I said it right? Just slow to respond. This is
• 1:31:15
  supposed to be around, Drew, And of course mother figures aren't always your
• 1:31:23
  biological mum. Okay, so next one, my daughter has the audacity to
• 1:31:27
  fly around the world on her record breaking to her, how am I supposed
• 1:31:30
  to get around now? And I'm her mama, And if you ask me,
• 1:31:33
  she's yes, and it's gonna be Drew Taylor Swift, go to your
• 1:31:38
  room. It is it's Taylor Swift. Yeah. First, Mama Swift is
• 1:31:42
  an entity. She is Cannon. She gets more hype when she comes out
• 1:31:45
  when she walks the I'm not surprised. And Taylor, she was on my
• 1:31:49
  side because mothers are a reflection of how they raise their daughters, right,
• 1:31:53
  so that's why they go crazy for true. Okay, next one, my
• 1:31:58
  daughters take your pick. This loads my daughters have yes. Name one Chloe
• 1:32:04
  Courtney yep, that's why I've got here. Ye. Yeah, go to
• 1:32:11
  your room. Seriously, anyway, go to your houses, in your your
• 1:32:15
  room, in your own mansion. Okay, I jumped to your well for
• 1:32:24
  starters. She wants to fly off to the East coast and leave me here.
• 1:32:28
  I do everything for her, And what does she do? Run around
• 1:32:30
  Sacramento with Timothy shallow May that's what. No idea on this one, Nope,
• 1:32:38
  Mother Adulter film from about five years ago. No, no, okay,
• 1:32:42
  we'll pass on this one. It's Ladybird, go to your ring.
• 1:32:46
  Sorry that, Oh, well, you just did a Kardashian one. He's
• 1:32:53
  dating Kendle right now. I'm pretty sure. So I was like, she
• 1:32:57
  is another Kardashian. They're all the Kardashians. I could have filled this entire
• 1:33:02
  round with just there are too many of them. They simply must be stopped.
• 1:33:06
  Okay, quick before the buzzer. Well, where do I begin with
• 1:33:10
  my daughter? I raised her, Well, didn't I? This is because
• 1:33:14
  she didn't get a good education. Education is still the most important thing in
• 1:33:17
  the world, next to family, not pie like she'd have you believe.
• 1:33:21
  Still, she has Rory's best interests at art. Yes, Chris it's not
• 1:33:29
  barrass No, you can't do that. Yes, true, going to be
• 1:33:36
  it's missus, Kim and Lane Laane, go to your room. It's it's
• 1:33:41
  not I'm so sorry. I was looking for Laura Lai. I was just
• 1:33:43
  looking for politic or something wrong. Yeah, Rory being the obvious. It's
• 1:33:48
  like a reverse of what Chris did with the carrier. I was. I
• 1:33:55
  mean, she does care about pileop, but I was like, is this
• 1:33:57
  who is this reference? If it was coffee, I would have gone right
• 1:34:00
  away, but had me questioning. I just figured you were trying to trick
• 1:34:06
  us, and you did. Screw It was a double trick, that special
• 1:34:13
  double black. The last one's always the tricky one. Please remember that when
• 1:34:17
  you assign worth to yourselves, whether you are happy that you were or lost,
• 1:34:21
  this game is the points are decided by me, and it's random.
• 1:34:27
  Before we get to the final scores, i'd like to thank our players.
• 1:34:30
  You've all been sarcastic, witty, and adorable, which are the three most
• 1:34:34
  common words to describe the Gilmore Girls TV show. Accurate Drew, you co
• 1:34:40
  host the Fantastic Supernatural podcast Carrying Wayward with the lovely Marie Theagaru. Where can
• 1:34:45
  our listeners find you? And where in the series are you at at the
• 1:34:48
  moments? Is it about the series seven? We are on season seven.
• 1:34:53
  We've officially passed halfway mark of the entire series just this week. When we're
• 1:34:59
  rec arding when you're listening on afore the time, time is weird. We've
• 1:35:02
  done a lot of time travel episodes weirdly, but carrying Wayward dot com has
• 1:35:05
  links to all of our socials, our show, our shop, our holiday
• 1:35:10
  merged sale, and our live events coming up soon. Oh fantastic exciting.
• 1:35:14
  Can you reveal anything about the live events or is it still again? Well?
• 1:35:17
  I can say now in Rotchout, Work and Time, we're doing a
• 1:35:19
  bake off for charity where Mary and I will be baking holiday festive cupcakes with
• 1:35:24
  some special guests and raising money for a some queer charities. Fantastic. Yeah,
• 1:35:30
  I'm definitely coming along to that. We can't wait. Check out check
• 1:35:32
  out you guys baking. You can also find me at Drew Shulman dot ca
• 1:35:35
  A if you're looking for a voice aggtive for any projects. Fantastic I'll put
• 1:35:39
  links to those in the show notes. Jen your fiber arts Instagram is just
• 1:35:44
  stunning. Why can our listeners follow you? And why can we see the
• 1:35:47
  wonderful craft? Yeah, if you want to see the fever dream, that
• 1:35:50
  is my fiber arts hobby and you can find it a half double docent on
• 1:35:57
  Instagram. Lots of holiday in a sweater for Chris coming up, So which
• 1:36:02
  is bigs point of pride for me? So yeah, she's never needed so
• 1:36:06
  much yarn because Chris is told, just like Dean, just the barrels of
• 1:36:13
  yarn for one swater. Fantastic. Also a link to that in the very
• 1:36:17
  show notes of this episode. Chris Paula, anything you want to promote or
• 1:36:21
  would you rather people not find you from? From this place? You can
• 1:36:26
  find me a blue check mark on X Totally kidding. No, I don't
• 1:36:32
  have anything listen to community gate leaps, as Chris promoted through the episode.
• 1:36:40
  I just promote being a proud wifey and celebrating the success that my husband is
• 1:36:45
  having. I don't tell. Yes, I don't know if he shared with
• 1:36:50
  you guys, and you can cut this out, but we were at Halifax
• 1:36:53
  Comic Con a couple of weeks ago and he got recognized by a fan.
• 1:36:57
  Someone actually came up and said, excuse me or you Drew from care we
• 1:37:00
  were you did it? That's it now? Yeah, so I'm in my
• 1:37:11
  that's awesome. That's so good. Can I please leave that in Drew because
• 1:37:14
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  Forward Slash Gatesleepers. You are our executive producers. So can you talk
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  to Netflix to do another Year in the Life to sort of check in on
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  how many affairs Rory's had at this point? Yeah? Thanks, Okay,
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  we will get to the final scores now. It was a close battle all
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  the way through, and it was a close battle in the quick fire round
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  as well. But our final scores a team by Kirk finish on nineteen points.
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  But today's winners Vicious trollops with twenty two points. Congratulations, congrats.
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  back to being the gate Leapers champion. Now you can put down on your
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