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10-15 H2: Bo Nix Seems Off, Softy Joins & Fact or Fiction · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, 7 o'clock hour, and I'm running late. We
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  Speaker 1: 9 with Greg Bell and Hugh Millen. and much, much
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  Speaker 1: more as it is game day around these here parts.
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks getting ready to take on the Denver Broncos in
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  Speaker 1: beautiful Mile High. And so we will be breaking that
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  Speaker 1: down for you here throughout the course of our broadcast
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  Speaker 1: day on KJR. But first, let's get to your headlines here.
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  Speaker 1: as the Rockies, which is exactly where we'll be watching
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  Speaker 1: football tonight. And the Rockies. How about that?
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that strange? Isn't that something right there?
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  Speaker 2: A mile high on the Rockies.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that life? Doesn't that make you shake your head?
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  Speaker 1: All right, 5-15 kickoff tonight between the Seahawks and Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: Both teams are 3-2 this season. I don't think either coach,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, is feeling great about the way that
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  Speaker 1: their team has played so far this season. Both have
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  Speaker 1: huge aspirations this year. And another thing that we haven't
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  Speaker 1: even discussed about this game all week long is... Whether
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  Speaker 1: or not Sean Payton really is angry with Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 1: or not over those comments that became public. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's acting. He's acting like no problem, Mike. I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I've put my foot in my mouth plenty of times myself.
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  Speaker 1: You got nothing to worry about here. All right. See you, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: See you Thursday at Mile High. Hang up the phone.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to destroy that. That's exactly what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: That is exactly what's going on. He played it out perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember Gladiator when the politician was like, There's
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  Speaker 1: a sea snake, and he lays at the bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the ocean. Yeah. And he waits for his victims to
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  Speaker 1: come by, but he lies perfectly still. And then just
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  Speaker 1: when his victims feel like he's safe, he'll take a
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  Speaker 1: little bite, but then he'll lie perfectly still.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's about right. That's Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton is a sea snake.
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  Speaker 2: He's a sea snake, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sea snake Payton versus Mike McDonald tonight. So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: if that ends up rearing its ugly head. Denver injuries
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  Speaker 1: coming into this game. Three-fourths of their starting secondary is out.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Sertan is out. Riley Moss, their other corner, who
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  Speaker 1: routinely gets picked on but always stays in the starting lineup.
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  Speaker 1: He is out. Safety. I don't know how to pronounce
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  Speaker 1: the first name.
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  Speaker 2: Talua Hufunga.
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  Speaker 1: Hufunga. I know how to pronounce the last name. He's
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  Speaker 1: a good player. He's out. So three-fourths of the starting
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  Speaker 1: secondary is not going to play tonight for the Denver Broncos. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: considering that it's a Thursday, Seahawks injury report reads pretty
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  Speaker 1: clean at this stage. Obviously, Zach Charbonnet, Jadarian Price are
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  Speaker 1: not going to play in this game. So we will
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  Speaker 1: have to try to establish a running game with Emmanuel
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  Speaker 1: Wilson and I guess George Helani again. Kickoff at 5.15.
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  Speaker 1: UW-Purdue will play tomorrow night. So, yes, a second consecutive
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  Speaker 1: Friday night affair. This one will be in Indiana against
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  Speaker 1: the Purdue fighting Cliff Averills. And, obviously, UW's got to
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  Speaker 1: start playing a lot better football right now. This does
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  Speaker 1: not feel good at this point in the year. Sounders
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  Speaker 1: lost last night, so their winning streak came to a close.
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  Speaker 1: 1-0 to Dallas FC, who's pretty good. Yeah. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize they were a good team, but they're a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good team.
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  Speaker 2: But Sounders, when they're on, they can beat anyone. So
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  Speaker 2: that's still something you expect them to win.
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  Speaker 1: Kraken, they're going to face a good team for the
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  Speaker 1: first time in four games. The Tampa Bay Lightning tonight
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  Speaker 1: at 4 o'clock. Kraken have won every single game on
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  Speaker 1: this five-game rotor. So to make it four in a row,
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  Speaker 1: they are going to have to beat one of the
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  Speaker 1: better teams in the National Hockey League and then go
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  Speaker 1: out to face an even better team in Florida.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: On saturday wnba playoffs will start on saturday we are
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  Speaker 1: five days away from the nba season and the major
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  Speaker 1: league baseball playoffs again i'm not getting carried away.
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  Speaker 2: But the brewers are up 30 nothing's final.
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  Speaker 1: Yes and i and i like that very much i'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna say that And I would like it very
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  Speaker 1: much if they swept the Los Angeles Dodgers today. That
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  Speaker 1: would be preferable. Yes. I'm not going to celebrate it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to count on it. But that is
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  Speaker 1: my wish, Ray Kinsella. That's my wish. And then the
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  Speaker 1: American League Championship Series will also resume today. Guardians and Rays,
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  Speaker 1: game number three. That series is tied at one game apiece.
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  Speaker 1: And they have moved it up. It's a one o'clock
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  Speaker 1: start time. All right, let's talk about Seahawks-Broncos. That's obviously
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  Speaker 1: the biggest story of the day. Sam Darnold, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's played as poorly as what some have taken
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  Speaker 1: away from his three starts. I think he actually played
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  Speaker 1: really well in his first two, but he has had
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  Speaker 1: some ugly turnovers that are hard to explain away. And
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  Speaker 1: that has to go in the portfolio. That has to
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  Speaker 1: go in the analysis of Sam Darnold. But I think
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  Speaker 1: with this beaten secondary, beaten up secondary of the Denver Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: that we might see Sam's best game. We'll see. That's
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  Speaker 1: a good defense, even if they are down three guys.
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  Speaker 1: As for Bo Nix, I think even Bronco fans are
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  Speaker 1: wondering if he's ever going to be the quarterback that
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  Speaker 1: leads them to a championship. And so he's been getting
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  Speaker 1: beat up a lot after a really successful year. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: keep in mind, if he doesn't get hurt, We're facing
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos in the Super Bowl. 100% agree.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I said this yesterday. I think the Broncos would have
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  Speaker 2: been in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so here's Bo Nix coming off an injury, didn't
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  Speaker 1: get the full camp time that he normally gets, and
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  Speaker 1: he's certainly not in rhythm.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But there's something. There's something going on with him. And
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  Speaker 1: Bo Nix met with the media earlier this week and
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  Speaker 1: talked about how he's going to approach this game against
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  Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: And he said something very interesting.
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  Speaker 6: Playing good and playing bad, it's a narrative. And I
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  Speaker 6: think it's honestly kind of something we make up. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think necessarily I'm playing any different than what I'm
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  Speaker 6: normally playing. It's just every once in a while a
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  Speaker 6: ball bounces away or Something will happen this way and
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  Speaker 6: we'll get a pressure on this look. When we had
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  Speaker 6: somebody open, I had to throw it away and I
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  Speaker 6: wanted to hold on a little bit longer and the.
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  Speaker 1: Guy was open.
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  Speaker 6: And next thing you know, stat line looks different. We're
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  Speaker 6: talking about something completely different. So I'm confident in my preparation.
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  Speaker 6: I'm confident in my coaching and I'm confident in our
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  Speaker 6: offense and the way we're going to structure the game
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  Speaker 6: and call plays. And I know we're going to have
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  Speaker 6: things there and it's just playing each play as it comes.
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  Speaker 6: And when it's there, hit it and not getting mentally
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  Speaker 6: exhausted and be able to play all four quarters or
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  Speaker 6: however long it takes. in the game to get the
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  Speaker 6: win and just play the play as it needs to
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  Speaker 6: be played.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That actually isn't the clip that I wanted to play,
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  Speaker 1: but there was a, um, there was, he, he, he
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  Speaker 1: made a statement, uh, as well. Like he's got to like,
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  Speaker 1: not care about it. Now I got, he can't go
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  Speaker 1: to the line, not caring, uh, not caring about it.
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  Speaker 1: And so, oh, you do have it.
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  Speaker 5: Funny enough.
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  Speaker 2: Hugh asked for this clip. I think this is the
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  Speaker 2: one you want.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Let's hear it.
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  Speaker 6: That's the honestly, really, and truly the biggest battle right
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  Speaker 6: now is like, You want to be aggressive, want to
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  Speaker 6: be aggressive, want to be aggressive, and then you see
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  Speaker 6: stats and you're like, well, this team is causing the
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  Speaker 6: most turnovers in the league. And then you're like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 6: I can't put my team in a situation where I'm
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  Speaker 6: turning the football over and putting our defense in a
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  Speaker 6: bad spot, giving them a short field. And at the
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  Speaker 6: end of the day, it's like, who cares? Why would
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  Speaker 6: I go out there worried about throwing an interception? Why
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  Speaker 6: would I go out there trying to throw every football
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  Speaker 6: 50 yards down the field?
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  Speaker 1: Just play the play.
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  Speaker 2: If the play's there, hit it. If it's not there,
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  Speaker 2: check it down, run, throw it away, punt.
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  Speaker 1: Who cares?
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  Speaker 6: That's the play that I was dealt, and I have
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  Speaker 6: to just remind myself not to play– Hero ball, it's
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  Speaker 6: just one play at a time. Do exactly what I'm
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  Speaker 6: supposed to do.
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  Speaker 1: And who cares?
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  Speaker 6: If the play causes me to throw an interception and
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  Speaker 6: I forced it and that was there and I liked
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  Speaker 6: what I saw, it may happen.
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  Speaker 1: It's happened before.
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  Speaker 2: It may happen again.
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  Speaker 6: If it's not there, I'm not going to throw it
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  Speaker 6: into a team meeting. I'm going to check the ball
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  Speaker 6: down and we're going to move on. And that's just
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  Speaker 6: the play that's given to me, and I have to
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  Speaker 6: continue to just do that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it says two things. I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: great clip, by the way. Number one, I think he's right.
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  Speaker 1: And those of us who've never played quarterback in the
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  Speaker 1: National Football League, I think sometimes lose sight about how
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  Speaker 1: difficult a job it is. And I think he's absolutely right.
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  Speaker 1: You can't really go in like, I'm going to stab
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  Speaker 1: him deep. Or I'm not going to throw an interception.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to go into the huddle like, hey, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: don't throw an interception on three, all right?
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  Speaker 5: Break.
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  Speaker 4: Break.
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  Speaker 2: I'm playing super conservative.
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  Speaker 5: Right, right, right.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry about this. We're going to check it down
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  Speaker 1: on three, okay? Nobody's playing the position that way. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there are some guys with the arm strength of Brett
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  Speaker 1: Favre and Sam Darnold, not quite Favrean, but he's got
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  Speaker 1: great arm strength, who are going to take more chances
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  Speaker 1: because they can. Right. And it typically benefits them, right?
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  Speaker 1: Brett Favre threw a lot of interceptions, but he made
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  Speaker 1: up for it. Did he not?
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. John Elway threw a lot of interceptions, but he
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  Speaker 1: made up for it. And so Bo Nix does not
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  Speaker 1: have that type of arm talent. And I think that
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  Speaker 1: he's right. That's how he should be approaching every single
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  Speaker 1: play is the play is the play. And if I've
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  Speaker 1: got a chance to throw it deep, if I've got
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  Speaker 1: an open receiver, I'm going to take advantage of that.
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  Speaker 1: But if it's not there, I'm not going to force it.
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  Speaker 1: And so for me to have some sort of plan
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  Speaker 1: to be more aggressive or to be more cautious because
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  Speaker 1: I'm facing a great defense, that's just not how you
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  Speaker 1: can approach it. I'm going to approach it play to play,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm going to take the play that they give me.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm also going to take the play that I'm
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  Speaker 1: capable of making. And I think he's absolutely right about that.
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  Speaker 1: So number one, Anders, I think he's correct. And then
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  Speaker 1: number two, the other part of this is that I
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  Speaker 1: think he's admitting I haven't been that guy through five
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  Speaker 1: games so far this year. That's why I've completed only 59%
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  Speaker 1: of my passes. Because if I'm not going to have
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  Speaker 1: great arm strength and I'm not going to challenge defenses
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  Speaker 1: down the field, I better hit the short stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and there's been successful quarterbacks at both of them.
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  Speaker 3: Drew Brees is the classic example of a guy who's
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  Speaker 3: going to— Of course, a Sean Payton guy, right?
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  Speaker 1: Believe me, he saw some... I'm not saying he saw
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  Speaker 1: Drew Brees in it, but he saw some Drew Brees
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  Speaker 1: in Bo Nix. That's why he drafted him.
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  Speaker 3: Similar skill set, right? And, you know, I've always liked
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix, even at Oregon, which begrudgingly, unfortunately, was the
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  Speaker 3: case when they were going at it with the Michael
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  Speaker 3: Penix days and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 5: But, yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: it's a very cerebral answer. You don't get this a
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  Speaker 3: lot because we always want, um, either our quarterbacks to
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  Speaker 3: be gunslingers or we want them to not.
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  Speaker 2: Turn the ball over right there. It's a, there's a
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  Speaker 2: nuanced aspect to it.
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  Speaker 3: And, um, you know, I don't know if Bo Nix
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  Speaker 3: will ever be that like top tier quarterback or even
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  Speaker 3: the guy who's going to figure out that balance as well.
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  Speaker 3: But him realizing that this is something that he needs
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  Speaker 3: to do is more than we've heard from a lot
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  Speaker 3: of other guys in the past.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's spot on. It's just whether or not
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  Speaker 1: he can execute it. Because like I said, I think
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  Speaker 1: he's admitting I haven't been playing that way. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why I've been playing poorly through five games. So I
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to see a check down conservative Bo
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  Speaker 1: Nix tonight because I think that's the defense that he's facing.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to give him those windows and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to try to beat us that way. And I
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  Speaker 1: would just say, good luck. You know, good luck. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Softies next. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot for 720 in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like this is what goes on inside my head,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, when I'm standing over a golf ball.
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  Speaker 2: Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
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  Speaker 5: Like two monkeys just slapping symbols together. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: we may have a major problem here at home in
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  Speaker 5: the home office, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: What is that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, we got three dogs here, and there's only one ball. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 5: It might be a major issue here in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: How did you get down to one ball in your
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  Speaker 1: household with three dogs?
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  Speaker 5: Because there's probably a pile of them somewhere in the
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  Speaker 5: house that I'm not aware of.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm too lazy to get off my ass and
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  Speaker 5: go check.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So I'd rather just prepare you for Doggy Fight Club,
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  Speaker 5: which will be broadcast live on the air any minute now.
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  Speaker 1: Be ready. Doggy Fight Club.
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  Speaker 2: Can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 5: I see.
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  Speaker 1: I see. You weren't unprepared as a doggy parent. You
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  Speaker 1: were just, in the moment, too lazy to get your stash.
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  Speaker 5: Once I sit in this chair and go on with
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  Speaker 5: you guys, that's pretty much.
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  Speaker 1: It, man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm done.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the focus.
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  Speaker 5: There's only so many movements in this body that I've
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  Speaker 5: got per day. I'm not using them all now.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good point. Right? Well, good morning to you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How are you? Thanks for joining us. Thursdays with Softie
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: every single week. And, yeah, not a lot of good things.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of great cheer right now with UW
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  Speaker 1: football at this stage. How down in the dumps are you?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, look, am I walking around depressed? You know,
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  Speaker 5: woe is me. What's that gif of the sad walk guy, right?
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  Speaker 5: He has his heads down, whatever. That's not exactly me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just more kind of just frustrated and kind of
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: flummoxed by what's going on here, man. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: 0-3 in the Big Ten, right? I mean, you're losing
• 14:13
  Speaker 5: to mid- to bottom-level teams in the conference. And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I think we all, when the season started and they
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: put up that Pillow fight against Wazoo and Utah State,
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  Speaker 5: I think anybody with a brain went to bed that
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  Speaker 5: night and said, uh-oh, we got a problem here, right?
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  Speaker 5: And now the question is, is the DeMond Williams era over?
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  Speaker 5: Can Elijah Brown, you know, Wally Pip, DeMond Williams out
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  Speaker 5: of there and keep the job? I think he can.
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  Speaker 5: I think the idea that, you know, well, we're paying
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  Speaker 5: him $ 4 million, well, so what? Paying him $ 4 million
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  Speaker 5: no matter what. Right? I mean, that's a sunk cost
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: at this point, guys. So I'm really intrigued by what
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  Speaker 5: Elijah Brown will look like on Friday night. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: this Purdue defense, I know they beat Minnesota and all
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  Speaker 5: that and blah, blah, blah. But they're not very good.
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  Speaker 5: 114th in the country in total defense. 94th in rushing defense.
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  Speaker 5: 120th in scoring defense. 91st in sacks allowed. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: come on, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 5: This is Jed Fish's third year. He's an offensive guy.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, thinking back on it, I mean, honestly, should
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  Speaker 1: Jed have just let DeMond go? And I'm not talking
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  Speaker 1: about hindsight. I don't want to use hindsight here. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to use the results of this season. But
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  Speaker 1: it feels like there were a lot of people that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: didn't want him back once he made that decision. But,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, should he really leave? have not tried to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: keep him i mean is that is that fair to
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: right even suggest that at this stage.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: Well i think it's easy to say that he should
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: have let him go today yeah where they're at right
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: but uh in the moment when they when that decision
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: came down in january i was i i said bring
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: him back i said you know make him honor his
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: deal but i was also very nervous about it and
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: i said that on the air and i said that
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: on social media that you know i didn't like the
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: idea that Half the fan base, if not half the
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: fan base, including me, was irritated as hell with the
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: starting quarterback. I mean, that put everybody in a bad
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: mood from the start and put everybody on the defensive.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Any mistake the guy made was going to be magnified, right,
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: because of what happened back in January. I was for it,
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: but I guess I was also really nervous about it.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: And looking back on it, yeah, I mean, probably would
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: have let them walk. I mean, I think it's just
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: a lesson for everybody. And let's face it, who had
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: been in that situation before in college football? Where was
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: the reference point where you could say, well, that same
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: thing happened to that team and they did this? Nobody. Nobody.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Nobody had ever been through that. Nobody had ever forced
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: a guy to stay on the roster because of an
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: NIL contract in the history of college football. UW was
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: the first team to do it, and they were being
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: lauded as precedent-setters, right, back in the day. So, yeah,
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think when a guy tries to quit
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: your football team or quit anything, whether a job or relationship,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Does it really make sense to force the person to
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: stay when they don't want to be there? There's a
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: lot of sense to that, Chuck, for sure.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Softie with us here Thursdays with Softie.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I know that the post-game show got pretty, you know,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it got some angry dogs. Got some angry
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: dogs there.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Do you think now, with a couple days to think
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: about it, that it'll be a different temperament when you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: take the air tomorrow, or have Mario and Greg and
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: yourself just simply had enough and want a new direction
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: with this program?
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it'll be different Friday because it's a
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: different quarterback and a whole different setting, but if they
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: come out and lose to Purdue on Friday night, I
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: can't promise anything. I mean, the gates are going to open, man.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is not a good team, and Like
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: we talked about before, I know they beat Minnesota. You know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: they had a guy that was running back. Sorry, I
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: don't know if you've looked at it. Femi Ijeboy, who
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: went for 195 on Minnesota last week. You know where
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: he transferred to Purdue from, by the way?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I did know this.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: Minnesota.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: Do you think he was fired up to face his
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: old team?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: Last week. So, you know, they've run for 800 yards
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: on the year and this guy ran for 200 of
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: them in one game against against the Gophers. So, yeah,
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is a game that Washington absolutely should win.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: The Elijah Brown thing is the X factor. But, you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of chatter out there, as you guys know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: about the program and. quarterback and the head coach and
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: where this thing's going and NIL and you know Jed's
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: talking a lot about what he doesn't have which I
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: think is rubbing some people the wrong way it's not
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: the approach that I would take if I were Jed
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Fish I would tell him the hey look that's okay
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: in the context of the offseason right and even when
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: the athletic article came out about a month ago because
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: the article had come out it's fair to address it
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: but I don't like the idea of what good that
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: we're going you know on Monday after we get spanked
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: by Iowa and we're talking about how little money we
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: have to spend on the roster I think that's just
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: bad timing.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And look, if you get through the season and
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you finish 8-4 and you want to make the statement, hey,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: if we want to be Ohio State, I need more money.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: If you want to do it then... But there weren't
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: excuses at the beginning of the year, money-related. It was
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: all about this should be a breakthrough season for us.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I asked DeMond point-blank, any reason why you shouldn't be
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: great this year?
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Put that pressure on me. So I don't want to
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: hear it either. I thought that was a cheap, cheap moment, frankly.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: Well, and then, you know, the stuff about the youth.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is the decision that I say we,
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: the program— decided to go in. That's the direction. They
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: could have gone out and gotten another Carver Willis from
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: somebody else's roster. They could have moved Drew as a
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: party over to left tackle and found another roster. tackle,
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: you know, like they did with Drew, who came in
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: from San Diego, but they decided to go with the 18-year-old,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: and there's problems with that, and I said that. We
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: talked about that. Hey, this is all great, fine, and dandy,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: but he's 18, and you got a defensive end who's 17.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: You got a defensive tackle who's 18. You got a
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: corner who's 18, so What do we think? These guys
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: are going to walk in here and become Heisman Trophy
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: winners on day one? Or are they going to struggle?
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: And they're struggling, right? I mean, all of them, for
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: the most part, are struggling. So it's okay, I guess,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: to go this route if you can guarantee you can
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: keep the guys. But that's the other problem in that
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: in this era. Can you guarantee that all these guys
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: are going to see it through and stay with you
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: for three, four years? Or is somebody else going to
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: bear the fruits of your labor, man? So that's the
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: concern that I've got.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And I think Ryan Walters has gotten let off the
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: hook this week as well because I watch an Iowa
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: team that hadn't been running the ball that well rush
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: for 200 yards, and I watch wide-open Iowa receivers standing
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in the end zone. So something's got to give there, too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: No, no doubt. That was a bad day. That was
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: their worst defensive performance under Fish, for sure, and the
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: worst game for Walters. I mean, he's the former head
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: coach at Purdue, and he's going back to Purdue Friday.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: So we'll see if that lights a fire on his keister.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: But again, I mean, I think, look, for the most part,
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Ryan Walters has been pretty damn good. as the defensive
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: coordinator of the Huskies. He gave up 19 points to
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: USC's offense. The offense had multiple chances to win the game,
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: and they couldn't do it. I know USC had the
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: ball a lot in the second half. A couple of
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: drives lasted an entire quarter. But for the most part,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: I think the defense under Walters has been pretty freaking good.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: The biggest issue with this program has been the offense,
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: and it's not even close.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: What lights the fire under your keister?
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Getting off this segment and going back to bed. All right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's fair. Well, we can make that happen. We can.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: We got a lot going on. I mean, I got
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: to find a way to watch the game. We're going
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: to be in the air tonight for the Seahawks game,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: by the way. So do I try and watch the
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: game on the iPad? I think we got Elon's deal.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: What is it? Starlink or whatever on the flight to Indianapolis.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: So do I watch it or do I just bag
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: it and watch the whole thing when I get to
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: the hotel?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: No, you watch it. You got to watch it live. Yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: watch it on the plane.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: You have the technology.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You feel good about that? I'll just put it this way.
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: That's a no.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: This is one of the games I had circled as
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: a loss at the beginning of the year. I thought
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this was going to be a tough one for them.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But now I just can't envision 3-3. I just can't
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: even think that they're going to go 3-3. So Denver's
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: not playing well. They're more banged up than we are. So, yeah,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to get the win.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm with you on the 3-3 thing, but that
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: would have been like in the context of like August, right?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: You couldn't imagine 3-3?
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: If you just look at tonight, can you imagine the
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Hawks losing tonight?
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: At this point? Yeah, well, yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Of course. Can you imagine them losing next Sunday versus
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Kansas City?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: That one game?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, sure. That's three and four.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to think about that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: Let's face it. Life sucks. Everything's a disaster.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Well, go back to bed then.
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: Okay. All right. Weather's turning for the worse. It's gloomy. Grumpy, softy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Nothing but dread.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: Jeez. And the freaking Seattle Pilots are going to play
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: in the World Series. That's where the Mariners are. Oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: my God.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Why did you go back to bed?
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: They already made it anyway back in the 80s. Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: 1982.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Are we pulling for them, by the way?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Of course. Yes. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. All right, man. Have
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: a great trip. We'll talk to you next week.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: All right, fellas.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: See you. Thanks.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: There he is.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: David Softy Mahler. The one, the only. Thursdays with Softy.
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  Speaker 2: Grumpy as ever.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Here on Chuck in the Mornings. You know what? Now
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I want to enlist the whole Brewers roster from 1982.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: We did it with the Pirates for Gene Steratore earlier
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: this week and Greg. But I can't because we have
• 23:42
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• 24:14
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• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Gorman Thomas in right field. Ted Simmons catcher. Pete Vukovic,
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  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Try that on the sides, huh? All right, kid. You
• 24:30
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• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I will take the Seahawks minus two and a half
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: on the road.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: To take on the Denver Broncos.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised it hasn't been picked, to be completely honest.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Me too.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: Especially as how much everyone talks about how good the
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: defense is for the Seahawks.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Seahawks' defense has been money. I don't see it taking
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a drop off just tonight.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: They're going to make Bo Nix just throw picks and
• 24:53
  Speaker 7: be like, you know, that was the read.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And that's what we want. That was the read.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: That was the read.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to feel bad about it. That was
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the right read.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Just got picked 11 times. Jeez, that would set a record.
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: But nonetheless, go ahead and text in fact to 49451
• 25:08
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• 25:12
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• 25:16
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• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Jeez.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of 12s out here, man.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to get a lot of.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: You're going to get nine.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Nine out of 11 people are going to be like, yes, kid.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: One out of 11 is going to be like, we
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: don't stand a chance. One out of 11 is going
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to say, you just jinxed us.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: That's probably happening right now.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: There it is.
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: Seahawks minus two and a half at the Denver Broncos.
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: They have to win by a field goal.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: There it is.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: And I think that is, I'm going.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: To just leave it at that. I'm not going to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: give you any more. Don't even say it's a good
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: pick or not.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not even going to weigh in.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I will.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I almost picked this yesterday, to be completely honest. That's
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: all I'll say.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: All right. So the pick is the Seahawks giving the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Broncos two and a half points. They are a home dog,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: but kid does not care. I don't give a damn.
• 26:04
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  Speaker 2: you're doing a show today? No, yeah, it's Mike Benton today.
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  Speaker 1: Is it Mike Benton? All right, well, the Greg Bell show. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: 1135 today. All right, coming up next, I corresponded with
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  Speaker 1: a famous future Hall of Fame player baseball player yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and Christopher Kidd with you, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
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  Speaker 1: Great to have you with us. It is game day. And, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I love it when we get a 12-man roundtable on
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  Speaker 1: a game day. It just adds a little bit of
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• 28:08
  Speaker 1: serve one segment today, though. We won't get him for
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the entire hour, but we will have Hugh for the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: entire hour. Coming up, 12th Man Roundtable from 8 to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: 9 this morning every Thursday as we get you ready
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: for Seahawks and Broncos. But I have to throw this
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: into the show. This is rather interesting. So Joey Votto
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: is former Cincinnati Red. I think he's going to end
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: up being a Hall of Famer. What an amazing career.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And he's also got into the broadcasting world. Joey Votto
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: has also been described as one of the most interesting
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: human beings on the planet, regardless of sport. He was
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: the favorite teammate of many people that played with the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds. And he is truly unique. There is no
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: such thing as being very unique. You're either unique or
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you're not. And I don't know if there's a person
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: that is wound the way that Joey Votto is. Also, hyper-intelligent,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: obviously was very good at his craft. And yet he
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: thinks differently than maybe anybody that I've ever heard talk baseball.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: So he's gotten into the baseball broadcasting world here as
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of late. And I think eventually he should be the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: marquee color analyst in the entire sport. And I mean,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: he could be it right now if you just let
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: him rip. But. With that interesting personality, I don't know.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll ever feel comfortable letting him go.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Why not? Well, he says things that could make networks
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. He's just built differently. That's it. yesterday, there
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: was this conversation that had been started about Shohei Otani's
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: timing having been off. And Joey Votto responded on X with, hi, Tom,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: no such thing as timing and hitting. And I'm like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: wait a minute.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: What?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Then Mike Petriello got involved, who is basically the chief nerd.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Chief nerd, right. He's the ultimate analytics writer in the sport.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And he also mentioned it's a clear case of Shohei
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Otani's timing being off. And Joey Votto said, not true.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: There's no such thing as timing and hitting. And then
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he compared it to a wave. That a wave in
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: the ocean will crest and then it will fall. That's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the swing. So there's no timing to a wave. It's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: just a matter of where in that wave does the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: bat hit the ball. See, this is the way he thinks.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: This is never going to go over with the masses.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: But I love it. So I asked him. I reached
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: out and I said, here's what I wrote to him. Hey, Joey,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: love your analysis. Hope to see more of you in
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the future. But I'm curious for your explanation here. As
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a sports talk host in Seattle, it looked to me
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: like Cal Raleigh's timing was off for most of the season.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: If there is no such thing as timing, what was wrong?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: And then I said, thank you. And I didn't know
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: if I'd hear from him or not. He responded overnight.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I woke up to this. Too many homers one year.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't save any for the next year. It's the old
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: marshmallow test. That's what he responded. And he also used
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the wrong two. Joey, don't mean to correct you, but
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: you're very intelligent. It should be T-O-O, not T-W-O. Maybe
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that's the Canadian in you. I don't know how they
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: spell things. I don't know how they spell things north
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  Speaker 1: of the border, but yeah, that's two as in T-O-O.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Maybe he used Siri or something, the voice to talk.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe, maybe. But that's what he wrote back. And I'm like,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: What a bizarre thing to write back. There's no way
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that you can believe that. I haven't written him back yet,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: but I'm like, the old marshmallow test, that must be something.
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  Speaker 1: That must be something. He's not taking a shot at
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Cal's waistline, is he?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I would hope not.
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  Speaker 1: So I looked it up. The old marshmallow test was
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: something in 1970. It was an experiment on children trying
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to figure out Self-control and whether or not in children,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: if you establish that they don't have self-control, what kind
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: of people will they be in the future? And what
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: happened in the test, the psychology test, is that they
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: would put a child in a room... And they would
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: put a marshmallow on the desk. Today's children wouldn't even
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: eat a marshmallow. But back then, that was apparently quite
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the treat.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: An irresistible treat to have a marshmallow sitting there. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: they were given instructions. And they said, you can either
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: eat the marshmallow or if you can wait 15 minutes,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: you'll get a second marshmallow. It's entirely up to you.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: And then they closed the door and left them in there.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: And they ended up. Many of the kids held out
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  Speaker 1: for the second marshmallow, but some couldn't. Well, fast forward,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: they went and tracked them down as adults to see
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  Speaker 1: if they turned out to be successes or failures. And
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: so they found out that in a lot of cases
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: that the kids that showed self-control and used the right
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: sort of logic to get the second marshmallow ended up
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: being far more successful than those that didn't.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: I did not know about this.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Well, neither did I. That's why I looked it up.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm explaining it. I didn't expect you to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: know about this. So what he's basically saying is, and
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: I got to believe this is tongue in cheek. There's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: no way that a baseball analyst could explain it this
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: way and really mean it. He's basically saying Cal Raleigh.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: ate all the marshmallows, and didn't save any for this
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: upcoming season. As if to suggest that if he wouldn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: have hit as many two years ago, he would have
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: hit more this year. And I really have a hard
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: time buying that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: It's like he chooses how many home runs he can hit.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I think that sounds like garbage. So now I'm stuck
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: in this, are you effing with me, Joe? Are you
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: effing with me, Joe? Or do you honestly believe that?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Is that something that in your very strange, I look
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: at the world through completely different lenses than everybody else,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that I actually believe that that's true? Like there is
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a galaxy out there that has lots of hitters, so
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: many home runs over the course of their life, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Cal took too many two years ago and didn't save
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: enough for this season. I don't know, Joe. To me,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I think it's timing. I think his timing was off.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Could be pretty simple.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Could be hard for me to buy the old marshmallow
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  Speaker 1: test after 162 games. He actually, I think, did get
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: his timing down. Looked to me like he was late
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: to the fastball. Bucky used to tell me that was
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: the key to hitting. Be on plane and on time.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Be on plane and on time. And to me, looked
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: like our guy wasn't on plane and wasn't on time.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: But maybe it is the marshmallow test. Maybe he just
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: used up all his home runs in 2025 and didn't
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: save enough marshmallows for 2026. Yeah, he was greedy.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: He couldn't wait.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: He couldn't spread it out, spread the love a little bit,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: which this whole analysis is so weird because I can
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: look at it one way and saying, like, this dude
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: is so, like, just.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say, like.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: High concept, I guess, philosophical with this kind of stuff.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, he definitely is.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Or you could see it as like he's really saying
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: basically you're going to be a certain type of player
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: the whole way. There's going to be positive and negative regression,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: which goes with the whole wave theory, right? Maybe he
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: just was so on the positive side in 2025 that
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: the bottom half of the wave came out in 2026.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I could see this as like that's which is a
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: very nerd way to think about it. So I don't
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: even I don't even know what to think.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Needless to say, I would like to get Joey Votto
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: on to explain himself on this. I don't know if
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: we can pull this off, but that is one interesting cat.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I just don't see how I can agree with that.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: All right, 12th Man Roundtable is next on Sports Radio
• 36:41
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