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- 0:00Speaker 1: In December of nineteen eighty eight, a young woman was
- 0:02Speaker 1: having coffee at her friend's house in the city of Tour, France,
- 0:05Speaker 1: and at some point she excused herself to go use
- 0:08Speaker 1: the bathroom, and when she opened the lid of the toilet,
- 0:10Speaker 1: she saw in the bowl were two small gold objects
- 0:14Speaker 1: floating in the water. They looked like beads at first,
- 0:17Speaker 1: or maybe broken pieces of jewelry, and so she leaned
- 0:19Speaker 1: down clothes to get a better look, and then she
- 0:23Speaker 1: realized what.
- 0:23Speaker 2: They actually were.
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- 1:14Speaker 1: On the night of December eleventh, nineteen eighty eight, a
- 1:17Speaker 1: thirty eight year old woman named Francoise Gendron touched up
- 1:20Speaker 1: her lipstick in the bathroom mirror of a nightclub in
- 1:23Speaker 1: the city of Tour, France. Her best friend, Sylvie Rivirigo,
- 1:26Speaker 1: was washing her hands the sink right next to her.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Francoise and Sylvie were best friends. They had basically known
- 1:32Speaker 1: each other forever since they were just little kids, and
- 1:35Speaker 1: these days they went out together almost every single night.
- 1:38Speaker 1: They were both divorced, and Francoise's nineteen year old son
- 1:41Speaker 1: had recently moved out of the house, so she was
- 1:44Speaker 1: making the most of her new freedom and staying out
- 1:46Speaker 1: late all the time, often with Sylvie. Now, Francoise and
- 1:49Speaker 1: Sylvie were not exactly the same in terms of their
- 1:52Speaker 1: attitude towards life. Francoise had always been much more sociable
- 1:56Speaker 1: and had this huge circle of friends, and so really
- 1:59Speaker 1: she was the one who often had to push her
- 2:01Speaker 1: much more introverted friend.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Sylvie to come out with her, but she usually did.
- 2:05Speaker 1: However, tonight it was Francoise who turned to Sylvie and
- 2:09Speaker 1: said that she actually wanted to go home now. She
- 2:11Speaker 1: told Sylvie that the men they were there with at
- 2:13Speaker 1: the club, Michelle and Luke, were making her feel uncomfortable
- 2:17Speaker 1: and she wanted to leave now. It was clear to
- 2:19Speaker 1: Francoise pretty much immediately that Sylvie was pretty disappointed, you know,
- 2:23Speaker 1: despite being introverted. Now that they were out, Sylvie wanted
- 2:26Speaker 1: to stay out. And also, I mean they regularly went
- 2:30Speaker 1: out with Michelle and Luke and there was never any
- 2:32Speaker 1: issues before. And so she said as much to Francoise,
- 2:35Speaker 1: like what do you mean, Like what's the issue? But
- 2:39Speaker 1: Francoise just said she was getting a weird vibe from
- 2:41Speaker 1: both of them and just would feel better if she
- 2:43Speaker 1: went home. And so a few minutes later, Francoise and
- 2:46Speaker 1: Sylvie walked back to the table where Michelle and Luke
- 2:49Speaker 1: were still sitting, and there was a receipt on the
- 2:50Speaker 1: table and Michelle was putting his wallat away like he
- 2:53Speaker 1: had just paid for it.
- 2:54Speaker 2: And actually, Michelle, he turned to the women and he said, hey,
- 2:56Speaker 2: are you guys ready to leave and go to the
- 2:58Speaker 2: next club.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Franceoise, she just kind of smiled and grabbed her coat
- 3:02Speaker 1: and said that actually she was going to leave now.
- 3:05Speaker 1: She said she had to get home to her boyfriend,
- 3:06Speaker 1: who was probably already at her.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Apartment and waiting for her.
- 3:09Speaker 1: The men were pretty surprised by this and maybe even
- 3:11Speaker 1: a little bit offended, and Michelle actually asked Francoise, like, hey,
- 3:15Speaker 1: are you sure everything's okay here? Like, is that really
- 3:18Speaker 1: the reason you're leaving? And Francoise just said, Yep, everything's fine.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I just got to go. But she could definitely tell
- 3:24Speaker 1: that the men did not believe her, but Francoise didn't
- 3:27Speaker 1: really care. I mean, at this point, she really just
- 3:29Speaker 1: wanted to leave, and so she just turned and gave
- 3:32Speaker 1: Sylvia a hug and then just said bye to the
- 3:34Speaker 1: group who were just kind of sitting there somewhat stunned
- 3:36Speaker 1: this is happening so quickly, And then Francoise turned and
- 3:40Speaker 1: she hustled right out of the club and flagged down
- 3:42Speaker 1: a cab before any of them could follow her. The
- 3:47Speaker 1: next morning, Francoise woke up in her own bed to
- 3:49Speaker 1: the sound of her boyfriend Eve Martin, bustling around her
- 3:52Speaker 1: bedroom and getting dressed. She rolled over to look at
- 3:55Speaker 1: her alarm clock and saw that it was eight am.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Francoise sat up and Eve turned to her and said
- 4:01Speaker 1: good morning, but she immediately noticed that his voice was cold,
- 4:05Speaker 1: and she knew why. The night before when she had
- 4:07Speaker 1: come home, they had gotten into a big argument because
- 4:10Speaker 1: you know, he had been waiting for her for quite
- 4:12Speaker 1: a while, for hours, you know, by the time she
- 4:14Speaker 1: finally got there, that was the reason she had to leave,
- 4:17Speaker 1: and it really had upset him. And in many ways,
- 4:19Speaker 1: this was not like a one off issue in their relationship.
- 4:22Speaker 1: It was a recurring one. Francoise was always staying out
- 4:26Speaker 1: super late with her friends and often with her male friends,
- 4:29Speaker 1: and Eve felt like she was basically prioritizing all of
- 4:32Speaker 1: them over him. He worked during the day, so the
- 4:35Speaker 1: evenings were really the only time that he and Francoise
- 4:37Speaker 1: could reasonably get together. But Francoise never seemed to get
- 4:41Speaker 1: home until super late, and at that point it was
- 4:43Speaker 1: too late for Eve to come over, or vice versa,
- 4:46Speaker 1: and so they just didn't get to see each other
- 4:48Speaker 1: as much as they could be. And so now Francoise
- 4:50Speaker 1: knew she had to do something to try to smooth
- 4:53Speaker 1: things over with her boyfriend. So she turned to Eve
- 4:56Speaker 1: and said, Hey, do you want to come over tonight
- 4:57Speaker 1: after get off work, and she promised she would actually
- 5:00Speaker 1: be home when he got there so they could cook
- 5:02Speaker 1: dinner together and just spend some time together.
- 5:05Speaker 2: It would be just a night for them.
- 5:06Speaker 1: And at that Francoise saw Eve's shoulders immediately relax, and
- 5:10Speaker 1: then he turned around and he smiled at her and said,
- 5:13Speaker 1: you know what, I'd really really like that. And so
- 5:16Speaker 1: at this point the mood in the room completely shifted.
- 5:18Speaker 1: They were sort of back on good terms. And so
- 5:20Speaker 1: as Eve finished getting dressed, he asked Frances what else
- 5:24Speaker 1: she had going on that day, and she told him
- 5:26Speaker 1: that she had a handyman she knew named Christiane Moreau,
- 5:29Speaker 1: who was coming by that morning to put up new
- 5:30Speaker 1: wallpaper in the apartment, so she'd very likely be stuck
- 5:34Speaker 1: at home for most of the day while he.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Worked on it.
- 5:36Speaker 1: The two chatted for a bit longer, and then once
- 5:38Speaker 1: Eve was ready to leave, Francoise kissed him goodbye, and
- 5:41Speaker 1: then after he left, Franceoise pulled herself out of bed
- 5:44Speaker 1: and put on a rope, and then she went into
- 5:46Speaker 1: the kitchen and she opened up a can of food
- 5:48Speaker 1: for her cat, and then she made herself some coffee.
- 5:51Speaker 1: She was a bit hungover from the night before, and
- 5:53Speaker 1: she thought maybe a warm bath would make her feel better.
- 5:55Speaker 1: So after she drank her coffee, she ran a bath,
- 5:58Speaker 1: she got into the water, and she closed her At
- 6:04Speaker 1: eleven am the next morning, so December thirteenth, a janitor
- 6:07Speaker 1: at the Trosseau Hospital in Tour, France, was carrying a
- 6:10Speaker 1: trash bag out to the dumpster when he noticed something odd.
- 6:14Speaker 1: There were two blue trash bags just sitting out on
- 6:17Speaker 1: a strip of grass in the middle of the hospital's
- 6:19Speaker 1: parking lot. Now, the trash bags they used at the
- 6:21Speaker 1: hospital were gray, so the janitor knew these bags, these
- 6:25Speaker 1: blue bags had to have been left there by someone
- 6:27Speaker 1: from outside of the hospital. So the janitor walked over
- 6:30Speaker 1: to the bags and sort of inspected them from the outside,
- 6:33Speaker 1: and they were sort of bulky, but he couldn't really
- 6:35Speaker 1: tell what was inside of them. And then he just
- 6:37Speaker 1: reached down and he opened one of them, and when
- 6:39Speaker 1: he saw what was inside, he immediately stumbled back, turned
- 6:43Speaker 1: and ran inside, shouting for someone to call the police.
- 6:50Speaker 1: About an hour later, so just before noon on December thirteenth,
- 6:54Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, Chief Inspector Francois Barbier of the Tour
- 6:57Speaker 1: Police Department walked across the parking lot of thee Trisaux Hospital.
- 7:01Speaker 1: He'd been sent out here to investigate human remains that
- 7:04Speaker 1: had been found outside of the hospital, and he was
- 7:06Speaker 1: the first officer to arrive on the scene, and so
- 7:09Speaker 1: now a janitor was walking with him to show him
- 7:11Speaker 1: the way to where the remains had been found. They
- 7:14Speaker 1: walked over to a grassy strip in the middle of
- 7:16Speaker 1: the parking lot and they stopped next to a pair
- 7:19Speaker 1: of blue trash bags. Inspector Barbier knelt down and he
- 7:22Speaker 1: opened up one of the bags and inside he saw
- 7:25Speaker 1: very clearly there were two severed arms and the lower
- 7:28Speaker 1: part of two legs. He opened up the other blue
- 7:31Speaker 1: bag and he found it contained a woman's torso, but
- 7:34Speaker 1: there was no pelvis, no thighs, and no head. Barbier
- 7:37Speaker 1: turned to the janitor, who he knew had found the remains,
- 7:40Speaker 1: and he asked him, like, when did you find this?
- 7:43Speaker 1: And the janitor said that he had been out doing
- 7:46Speaker 1: his rounds throwing his own trash away around eleven am
- 7:49Speaker 1: and that's when he had seen them. But they definitely
- 7:52Speaker 1: had not been there when he had done his rounds
- 7:54Speaker 1: at nine am that day, so clearly these had to
- 7:57Speaker 1: have been dropped off sometime between nine and eleven. Barbier
- 8:00Speaker 1: stood up and looked around, and he noticed there actually
- 8:03Speaker 1: was a medical school right down the street, and for
- 8:06Speaker 1: a second he wondered if maybe this was all just
- 8:09Speaker 1: a tasteless prank by some of the students who could
- 8:11Speaker 1: have maybe stolen a cadaver from the hospital's morgan dropped
- 8:15Speaker 1: it here. But as he thought about it, he just
- 8:17Speaker 1: couldn't imagine medical students desecrating a human body like that,
- 8:21Speaker 1: I mean, even as a prank, it just seemed not possible.
- 8:24Speaker 1: And so to him, it just seemed like the more
- 8:26Speaker 1: obvious answer here, albeit a gruesome one, was that this
- 8:30Speaker 1: woman contained in these two bags had been murdered, and
- 8:33Speaker 1: whoever killed her chopped her body up and put them
- 8:36Speaker 1: in these bags because it would be easier to dispose
- 8:38Speaker 1: of her body that way. And so Barbier hoped that
- 8:41Speaker 1: when the forensics team showed up, they'd be able to
- 8:43Speaker 1: find fingerprints from the killer on the blue trash bags,
- 8:47Speaker 1: because at this point, I mean, they didn't have a
- 8:49Speaker 1: head of this woman. The victim didn't have a head,
- 8:52Speaker 1: and so it could be very challenging to identify who
- 8:54Speaker 1: it was. And if he didn't know who the victim was,
- 8:57Speaker 1: it would be even harder to narrow down who might
- 9:00Speaker 1: have killed her. Four days later, on the afternoon of
- 9:03Speaker 1: December seventeenth, Barbier was reading over an autopsy report at
- 9:07Speaker 1: his desk. After the initial discovery of those blue trash
- 9:10Speaker 1: bags at the hospital, more body parts from what appeared
- 9:13Speaker 1: to be the same body had been found dumped behind
- 9:15Speaker 1: a clothing store in a commercial part of town, but
- 9:18Speaker 1: the head was still missing, and with no clues as
- 9:22Speaker 1: to who the victim was, the investigation really was just
- 9:25Speaker 1: barely crawling along. The police had put out a press
- 9:27Speaker 1: release about the body's discovery, but so far no one
- 9:30Speaker 1: had come forward with information, and there had been no
- 9:33Speaker 1: women who had been reported missing in the area recently. Also,
- 9:36Speaker 1: no usable fingerprints had been found on the trash bags,
- 9:39Speaker 1: and so at this point they really just didn't have
- 9:42Speaker 1: forensic evidence, and so they were not able to even
- 9:44Speaker 1: begin to track down who the killer was or what
- 9:47Speaker 1: happened to them. And now, as Barbier continued to read
- 9:50Speaker 1: through this autopsy report, he saw that the medical examiner
- 9:53Speaker 1: had run the victim's fingerprints through the database, but there
- 9:57Speaker 1: was no match, and so again there's just.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Like no leads in the case so far.
- 10:00Speaker 1: However, as Barbier continued reading through this report, he saw
- 10:04Speaker 1: that the autopsy did reveal that the victim had died recently,
- 10:08Speaker 1: probably only one day before her remains were discovered. She
- 10:12Speaker 1: appeared to have bled to death from two deep gashes
- 10:14Speaker 1: on her wrists, and there were also traces of an
- 10:17Speaker 1: anti anxiety medicine that was in her blood, which suggested
- 10:21Speaker 1: she might have been drugged before she was killed. And
- 10:23Speaker 1: Barbier was sort of baffled by this because the method
- 10:26Speaker 1: of murder almost seemed gentle and controlled compared to the
- 10:30Speaker 1: extreme violence that was done to the body post mortem,
- 10:33Speaker 1: like those two things were totally in contrast with each other,
- 10:36Speaker 1: and so he wondered if this was all done this
- 10:38Speaker 1: way out of necessity, and so maybe the killer was
- 10:41Speaker 1: just too small or too weak, or maybe both to
- 10:44Speaker 1: kill the victim without sedating her first. And then also
- 10:47Speaker 1: along those same lines, maybe they couldn't move her body
- 10:50Speaker 1: without chopping it up first. And so, as Barbier is
- 10:53Speaker 1: just sort of thinking through what could have happened here,
- 10:56Speaker 1: the phone on his desk rang. He put down the report,
- 10:58Speaker 1: and he picked up the phone, and it was a
- 11:00Speaker 1: woman who said that she had just seen a newspaper
- 11:02Speaker 1: article about the dead body, and she thought it could
- 11:05Speaker 1: be a woman named Francoise Gendron who lived in an
- 11:08Speaker 1: apartment complex called La Valais Violette, And so Barbier immediately
- 11:12Speaker 1: sat up. He grabbed his pen, and he wrote down
- 11:14Speaker 1: the name and the address. But before he could ask
- 11:17Speaker 1: who the caller was or why she thought the victim
- 11:20Speaker 1: could be this woman, friends, was the caller hung up?
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- 12:35Speaker 1: month of therapy. Half an hour later, Barbier walked through
- 12:42Speaker 1: the hallway on the first floor of the Lavalais Violette
- 12:45Speaker 1: apartment complex where his mystery caller had told him his
- 12:48Speaker 1: victim lived. This was the first lead he had gotten
- 12:51Speaker 1: since the body was found, so he was hopeful that
- 12:53Speaker 1: something would come of it now. The woman who called
- 12:56Speaker 1: didn't actually give the apartment number for Friendsoise, just that
- 12:59Speaker 1: she lived in this complex, and so Barbier just literally
- 13:03Speaker 1: walked down the hallway and knocked on an apartment door
- 13:05Speaker 1: at random, and the man who answered. Barbier asked him
- 13:09Speaker 1: if he knew a woman named fran Soise Gendron and
- 13:12Speaker 1: did she live here, and the man just nodded and said, yep,
- 13:15Speaker 1: she lives here, and then he pointed to a door
- 13:17Speaker 1: right down the same hallway, and then the man unprompted,
- 13:20Speaker 1: told Barbier that he hadn't seen anybody go in or
- 13:23Speaker 1: out of that apartment for at least a few days,
- 13:26Speaker 1: and he was starting to get worried about fran Swase's cat.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Barbier's heart began to race because if Francoise really did
- 13:33Speaker 1: live in that apartment and she really.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Hadn't been around in days, well, it.
- 13:37Speaker 1: Seemed very possible that she was his victim. So he
- 13:40Speaker 1: thanked the man and said he would handle it, and
- 13:42Speaker 1: then he walked down the hallway to the door and
- 13:44Speaker 1: he knocked and there was no answer, but he could
- 13:48Speaker 1: hear a cat meowing inside. And so at this point,
- 13:51Speaker 1: Barbier was feeling really confident about the anonymous tip, and
- 13:55Speaker 1: so he just turned and hurried back out to his car,
- 13:57Speaker 1: and he radioed for a forensics team to come to
- 13:59Speaker 1: this apartment complex, and then a few minutes later they
- 14:02Speaker 1: arrived carrying a battering ram to break down the door.
- 14:06Speaker 1: So Barbier and the team they go back down the
- 14:08Speaker 1: hallway to Francoise's door. Barbier got out of the way
- 14:12Speaker 1: and then the officers smashed it down with this ram,
- 14:14Speaker 1: and then once it was open, Barbier stepped inside the apartment.
- 14:18Speaker 1: As soon as Barbier was in this apartment, he was
- 14:20Speaker 1: standing in the living room and he looked around and
- 14:23Speaker 1: nothing seemed disturbed. However, when he left the living room
- 14:27Speaker 1: and went into the kitchen, it was a different story. Now,
- 14:30Speaker 1: the kitchen was not a total disaster, but there was
- 14:33Speaker 1: a broken dish on the ground and some food items
- 14:36Speaker 1: that must have been on the dish at some point
- 14:37Speaker 1: that also were scattered across the floor, and so just
- 14:41Speaker 1: at first glance, it appeared like maybe some sort of
- 14:44Speaker 1: struggle happened in here. However, Barbier looked around the kitchen
- 14:47Speaker 1: and he didn't find any blood anywhere, so it was
- 14:49Speaker 1: just this broken plate. And then when Barbier checked the
- 14:52Speaker 1: rest of the apartment, no drawers or closets looked like
- 14:56Speaker 1: they'd been ransacked, so this didn't appear like an apartment
- 14:59Speaker 1: that had been robbed at any point. However, one thing Barbier
- 15:02Speaker 1: did notice was in the bedroom there were a few
- 15:05Speaker 1: unopened rolls of wallpaper on a stool, like as if
- 15:07Speaker 1: somebody had had been about to do some work in
- 15:10Speaker 1: the bedroom but then just didn't. Barbier told the forensics
- 15:13Speaker 1: team to first make sure the cat got fed because
- 15:16Speaker 1: there was a cat in here, and the cat was
- 15:18Speaker 1: a little malnourished, but basically okay. And then to sweep
- 15:21Speaker 1: the apartment for fingerprints to see whether fran Swase's prince
- 15:24Speaker 1: matched the victim, and if she was the victim, he
- 15:27Speaker 1: was hoping they might also find fingerprints or blood inside
- 15:30Speaker 1: the apartment from whoever might have killed her. And so
- 15:33Speaker 1: the forensics team they got to work, and Barbier he
- 15:36Speaker 1: just continued sort of walking around the apartment looking at
- 15:39Speaker 1: photos that were out on display to maybe get a
- 15:42Speaker 1: sense of France Suise's body size, to sort of mentally
- 15:45Speaker 1: compare it to the victim's body. And as he was
- 15:47Speaker 1: doing this, he happened to glance out the window and
- 15:50Speaker 1: he saw a young man standing on the sidewalk outside
- 15:53Speaker 1: who clearly was watching the police through the glass. And
- 15:56Speaker 1: when Barbier locked eyes with this guy, the guy suddenly
- 15:59Speaker 1: looked or horrified and he just turned and began speed
- 16:02Speaker 1: walking away, at which point Barbier opened up the window
- 16:05Speaker 1: and shouted at the sky to stay right where he was.
- 16:10Speaker 1: An hour later, Inspector Barbier walked into an interview room
- 16:13Speaker 1: at the Tour Police station and sat down across from
- 16:16Speaker 1: the young man who had been watching franz Wais's apartment.
- 16:18Speaker 1: By now he knew this man's name was Eve Martin,
- 16:22Speaker 1: and he claimed to have been Francois's boyfriend. And so
- 16:24Speaker 1: Barbier sits down and he asks, Eve, you know, what
- 16:27Speaker 1: were you doing outside of Francois's apartment when I saw you?
- 16:30Speaker 1: And Eve said that he had just come by the
- 16:32Speaker 1: apartment to see if france Wise was home, but like
- 16:35Speaker 1: he got there and saw police inside and he knew
- 16:38Speaker 1: something was wrong. But he specified that he hadn't seen
- 16:42Speaker 1: or heard from her in about five days and didn't
- 16:44Speaker 1: know she was missing. Like the last time he spoke
- 16:46Speaker 1: to her was the morning of December twelfth. Now the
- 16:49Speaker 1: instant Eve said December twelfth. Barbier thought of two things.
- 16:52Speaker 1: One is that was actually the day before the body
- 16:56Speaker 1: was found in the parking lot. And two, based on
- 16:58Speaker 1: the autopsy report, it was presumed that the victim was
- 17:02Speaker 1: killed the day before her body was found, so December twelfth,
- 17:05Speaker 1: and so it's pretty suspicious that this guy is mentioning
- 17:08Speaker 1: December twelfth as the last time he saw Francoise, and
- 17:11Speaker 1: so Barbier leaned in and he asked Eve to elaborate
- 17:14Speaker 1: about the last time he saw Francoise on the twelfth,
- 17:17Speaker 1: and Eve said he had seen Francoise at her own
- 17:20Speaker 1: apartment when he left the apartment around eight am on
- 17:23Speaker 1: the twelfth, and the two of them had made plans
- 17:25Speaker 1: to meet up again at her place that evening, but
- 17:28Speaker 1: he said when he got there that night, she wasn't home,
- 17:31Speaker 1: but this was not unusual for her, so Eve explained
- 17:34Speaker 1: that he just let himself inside her apartment with the
- 17:36Speaker 1: spare key she had given him, and he just made
- 17:39Speaker 1: himself dinner and he watched TV while he waited for
- 17:41Speaker 1: her to eventually show up, and then he set At
- 17:44Speaker 1: around eight pm, her landline, her home landline phone began
- 17:47Speaker 1: to ring. Eve said that he answered the phone, which
- 17:50Speaker 1: was not totally unusual, and he said the person who
- 17:53Speaker 1: was calling claimed to be one of Francoise's friends. Eve
- 17:56Speaker 1: said he didn't recognize the voice, but he said Francoise
- 17:59Speaker 1: had a big circle of friends and he for sure
- 18:01Speaker 1: did not know all of them. But Eve told Barbier
- 18:04Speaker 1: that this caller was not calling the apartment to try
- 18:08Speaker 1: to reach Francois. They were calling the apartment to reach
- 18:11Speaker 1: him Eve to tell him that apparently Francoise had decided
- 18:15Speaker 1: to go out of town this weekend with some other
- 18:17Speaker 1: friends and that she would not be home tonight. And
- 18:20Speaker 1: Eve said this was not the first time that Francoise
- 18:24Speaker 1: had ditched him, and so, in his frustration after being
- 18:26Speaker 1: told this by this friend, he said, he grabbed his
- 18:28Speaker 1: dinner plate and just chucked it on the floor and
- 18:31Speaker 1: shattered it, and then he left. Barbier was surprised to
- 18:33Speaker 1: hear this, and he was thinking, if Eve was the
- 18:36Speaker 1: type of person who would immediately start breaking things over
- 18:39Speaker 1: something that you didn't seem like that big of a deal, well,
- 18:42Speaker 1: what else was he capable of? However, as potentially suspicious
- 18:46Speaker 1: as Eve was, Barbier had not actually confirmed whether Francoise
- 18:51Speaker 1: was even his victim. This could just be a coincidence
- 18:54Speaker 1: here that she left town right before this body was found,
- 18:57Speaker 1: like she could be just fine. And so before Barbier
- 19:00Speaker 1: let Eve go because he couldn't really hold him at
- 19:02Speaker 1: this point, he asked Eve to just give him a
- 19:04Speaker 1: detailed account of what else he had done on December twelfth.
- 19:07Speaker 1: He wanted to get the full timeline of what he
- 19:10Speaker 1: did on that day, and Eve just said after he
- 19:12Speaker 1: had left Franceoise's apartment that morning, when he and Francoise
- 19:15Speaker 1: had made plans to meet up that night, he said
- 19:18Speaker 1: he had spent most of the day at work, and
- 19:20Speaker 1: then he had gone back to Francoise's apartment after work,
- 19:23Speaker 1: and then after he had waited around for a while
- 19:25Speaker 1: and got that phone call and broke the plate, he
- 19:28Speaker 1: said he had just left and gone straight to his
- 19:29Speaker 1: own apartment, which he shared with his mother, and he
- 19:32Speaker 1: was there all night. And so Barbier wrote down what
- 19:34Speaker 1: he said and made a note to follow up on
- 19:36Speaker 1: his alibi. And then before he let Eve go, he
- 19:39Speaker 1: just asked him if if Francoise was planning to go
- 19:41Speaker 1: anywhere or meet anybody on the day he last saw her,
- 19:44Speaker 1: and Eve he thought about it for a moment and
- 19:47Speaker 1: then he said, yeah. Actually, there was one thing Francoise
- 19:49Speaker 1: had mentioned to him. She had told him that an
- 19:51Speaker 1: acquaintance named Christian Moreau was supposed to come over her
- 19:55Speaker 1: apartment later that morning to put up some new wallpaper
- 19:58Speaker 1: in her apartment. The next morning, December eighteenth, Inspector Barbier
- 20:03Speaker 1: knocked on the door of Christian's apartment, the guy who
- 20:06Speaker 1: was going to put up the wallpaper. Now, at this point,
- 20:08Speaker 1: forensics still had not confirmed whether or not Francoise was
- 20:12Speaker 1: the victim, but for the time being, Barbier was working
- 20:15Speaker 1: under the assumption that she was a few seconds later,
- 20:19Speaker 1: a young man answered the door and confirmed he was
- 20:21Speaker 1: Christiane Moreau, and so Barbier asked him if he remembered
- 20:25Speaker 1: going to Francois Gendron's apartment on December twelfth, and Christiane
- 20:30Speaker 1: said yes, he did remember, but he seemed confused about
- 20:33Speaker 1: why he was being asked about it by a police officer.
- 20:35Speaker 1: Barbier explained that Francoise was presumed to be missing and
- 20:39Speaker 1: had even been possibly killed on the same day that
- 20:42Speaker 1: Christian was at her apartment, and Christiane looked very surprised
- 20:46Speaker 1: to hear this, and he just said, you know, I
- 20:48Speaker 1: was there on the twelfth. I got there around ten
- 20:50Speaker 1: am that morning. Francoise seemed perfectly fine. She appeared to
- 20:54Speaker 1: have just gotten out of the bath and it just
- 20:56Speaker 1: didn't seem like anything was wrong. However, Christian said he
- 21:00Speaker 1: was only in the apartment around Francoise for like a
- 21:03Speaker 1: minute because he just dropped off the new wallpaper and
- 21:06Speaker 1: was going to install it on another day, so it
- 21:09Speaker 1: was a very brief interaction, but again she seemed fine.
- 21:12Speaker 1: During this very brief interaction. Barbier obviously had seen those
- 21:16Speaker 1: rolls of new wallpaper just sitting in Francoise's apartment, so
- 21:19Speaker 1: he figured this part of Christian's story had to be true,
- 21:22Speaker 1: that he must have dropped them off. But it did
- 21:25Speaker 1: seem a bit odd to drop the wallpaper off on
- 21:27Speaker 1: one day and then come back at another time to
- 21:30Speaker 1: actually perform the work, like you could easily just do
- 21:33Speaker 1: those two things at the same time, so he wondered
- 21:35Speaker 1: whether this had actually been the plan all along, or
- 21:38Speaker 1: if something unexpected had happened inside of the apartment with
- 21:41Speaker 1: Francoise that had somehow stopped Christian from installing the wallpaper
- 21:45Speaker 1: on that first visit. So Barbier asked Christian for his
- 21:49Speaker 1: alibi for the rest of the day that Francois had
- 21:51Speaker 1: last been seen, which was the twelfth, and Christian went
- 21:54Speaker 1: over his entire day. He provided all the information, and
- 21:57Speaker 1: then afterwards Barbier, after taking down some notes, he said.
- 22:00Speaker 2: He would be in touch now.
- 22:01Speaker 1: At this moment, Barbier didn't have enough evidence to hold
- 22:04Speaker 1: Christian for more questioning, but as he walked back to
- 22:07Speaker 1: his car, Barbier hoped that forensics might find some fingerprints
- 22:11Speaker 1: or blood in Francoise's apartment that could implicate Christian. A
- 22:23Speaker 1: day later, Barbier sat down at his desk and read
- 22:25Speaker 1: over a forensics report on Francois's apartment. Now there hadn't
- 22:29Speaker 1: been any blood traces found, but a set of fingerprints
- 22:32Speaker 1: had been pulled from the phone and they matched the
- 22:35Speaker 1: hands that had been found inside the blue trash bag.
- 22:37Speaker 1: So this confirmed that france Was was indeed the victim,
- 22:41Speaker 1: but so far there was no evidence pointing to who
- 22:43Speaker 1: killed her. Eve Franceise's boyfriend his alibi checked out, and
- 22:48Speaker 1: that handyman Christian Moreau he also had a solid alibi.
- 22:51Speaker 1: And then asked for Francoise's nineteen year old son, who
- 22:54Speaker 1: was serving in the military. While he was confirmed to
- 22:58Speaker 1: have been at his barracks over two hundred miles away
- 23:01Speaker 1: at the time of the murder, and so he was
- 23:03Speaker 1: ruled out as a suspect. And then also he would
- 23:05Speaker 1: say that he had not heard from his mother since
- 23:08Speaker 1: several days before she was actually killed. Barbier was still
- 23:11Speaker 1: trying to figure out who was that person who called
- 23:13Speaker 1: Francoise's apartment when Eve was there to tell Eve that, Hey,
- 23:17Speaker 1: your girlfriend's going to be out of town this weekend,
- 23:19Speaker 1: because it just seemed like that was pretty suspicious and
- 23:22Speaker 1: this person who was calling must know something about Francoise's death.
- 23:27Speaker 1: But this was the nineteen eighties, so it was harder
- 23:29Speaker 1: to get a hold of phone logs than it is
- 23:31Speaker 1: today now. Barbier had submitted an order for those phone logs,
- 23:35Speaker 1: but the order had to be signed by a judge still,
- 23:37Speaker 1: and then it could also take several more days beyond
- 23:40Speaker 1: that to actually get the records, and so there was
- 23:42Speaker 1: a bit of a wait. However, just then another officer
- 23:45Speaker 1: knocked on Barbier's door and said that a phone call
- 23:48Speaker 1: had just come in from someone claiming to have information
- 23:50Speaker 1: about Francoise and drone, and so Barbier he picks up
- 23:53Speaker 1: the phone and he hears a woman's voice and this
- 23:56Speaker 1: woman tells him that she has information on Francoise, and
- 24:00Speaker 1: Barbier immediately wondered, like, is this the same anonymous woman
- 24:03Speaker 1: who called in before with that tip that Francoise was
- 24:07Speaker 1: the victim? But Barbier just couldn't quite tell if it
- 24:09Speaker 1: was the same voice. And so this woman told Barbier
- 24:13Speaker 1: that she had been a very close friend of Francoise's
- 24:16Speaker 1: and she knew about two men named Michelle and Luke
- 24:19Speaker 1: who might have been involved in Francoise's death. She said,
- 24:23Speaker 1: right before she died, Francoise had found out that these
- 24:26Speaker 1: two men were secretly involved in drug trafficking, and apparently
- 24:30Speaker 1: they had talked about killing Francoise if she reported them
- 24:33Speaker 1: to the police. Specifically, the caller said these two men
- 24:37Speaker 1: had threatened Francoise that they would drug her, bleed her out,
- 24:41Speaker 1: chop her into pieces, and then cut off her head
- 24:43Speaker 1: so she could never be identified. Early the next morning,
- 24:48Speaker 1: so on December twentieth, nineteen eighty eight, seven days after
- 24:51Speaker 1: Francoise's body was found, Chief Inspector Barbier pulled up outside
- 24:55Speaker 1: of a discount store in a shopping area and tour
- 24:58Speaker 1: in front of the store, there were two two men
- 25:00Speaker 1: unloading boxes from a semi truck.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Barbier, he got out of his car.
- 25:03Speaker 1: And he began walking towards them, and when these two
- 25:06Speaker 1: men saw the detective approaching, they immediately seemed sort of panicked,
- 25:10Speaker 1: and when Barbier got close enough, he asked them if
- 25:13Speaker 1: they were the store's owners Michelle and Luke, and one
- 25:16Speaker 1: of the men nodded, at which point Barbier said, you
- 25:19Speaker 1: two are coming with me. About an hour later, Barbier
- 25:23Speaker 1: walked down the hallway at the police station, past the
- 25:26Speaker 1: doors of the interrogation rooms where Michelle and Luke were
- 25:29Speaker 1: currently being held, but first he wanted to speak to
- 25:32Speaker 1: the third person the police had brought in for questioning
- 25:34Speaker 1: that morning, Sylvie Reverigo, who happened to be Francoise's best
- 25:38Speaker 1: friend and friends with Michelle and Luke.
- 25:41Speaker 2: And he sat down across from her.
- 25:43Speaker 1: And he basically said, look like, we know you're connected
- 25:46Speaker 1: to the two men, Michelle and Luke, and also to
- 25:48Speaker 1: fran Soise, and we want to know if you know
- 25:51Speaker 1: anything about these two guys, because apparently they could have
- 25:54Speaker 1: been threatening Francoise.
- 25:56Speaker 2: We think they could be involved.
- 25:57Speaker 1: Tell me everything you know. And Sylvie would tell Barbe
- 26:00Speaker 1: that she was actually scared of Michelle and Luke and
- 26:03Speaker 1: that was why she had not come to police yet,
- 26:06Speaker 1: because she was worried if she told them what she knew,
- 26:08Speaker 1: they would hurt her. She told Barbier that those two
- 26:11Speaker 1: those two men had told her, Sylvie, that they intended
- 26:15Speaker 1: to kill Francoise because they were worried that Francoise was
- 26:19Speaker 1: going to report them to police for drug trafficking and
- 26:22Speaker 1: selling stolen cars. And Sylvie said she didn't know if
- 26:25Speaker 1: they were actually capable of that, but she just was
- 26:27Speaker 1: too worried about going to the police about it and
- 26:30Speaker 1: feared they would find out and then she would become
- 26:32Speaker 1: a target as well. And so he and Sylvie chatted
- 26:34Speaker 1: for a bit longer, and he got some additional information
- 26:36Speaker 1: about when exactly they spoke to her and said this,
- 26:39Speaker 1: and some other details about sort of their demeanor and
- 26:42Speaker 1: the people they hung out with. And then after that
- 26:45Speaker 1: Barbier got up. He left the interrogation room and in
- 26:48Speaker 1: the hallway he caught up with the detective who had
- 26:50Speaker 1: actually already begun interrogating Luke, and the detective said that
- 26:54Speaker 1: so far Luke had totally refused to cooperate and he'd
- 26:58Speaker 1: outright denied even knowing who Sylvie was. Barbier sighed when
- 27:02Speaker 1: he heard this, and he had a feeling right away
- 27:04Speaker 1: that Michelle was not going to be any more cooperative,
- 27:08Speaker 1: but he was going to try his best to crack him.
- 27:10Speaker 1: So Barbier went into the room where Michelle was being held,
- 27:13Speaker 1: and after he sat down, he just asked Michelle if
- 27:16Speaker 1: he had seen the news about that woman who was
- 27:18Speaker 1: found chopped up in trash bags in a hospital parking lot,
- 27:21Speaker 1: and Michelle said yes, he had heard about that, and
- 27:24Speaker 1: then he made a joke that maybe a surgeon at
- 27:26Speaker 1: the hospital had made a pretty bad mistake or something.
- 27:29Speaker 1: Barbier didn't react to the joke, and instead he just
- 27:32Speaker 1: pulled out a folder and slid it across.
- 27:33Speaker 2: The table and then Michelle. He opened it up and
- 27:36Speaker 2: what he saw.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Were photos of those blue trash bags and also photos
- 27:40Speaker 1: of the severed body parts that had been found inside
- 27:43Speaker 1: of them. And when Michelle saw these pictures, he went
- 27:45Speaker 1: completely pale. Barbier then asked Michelle, do you know who
- 27:50Speaker 1: that body belonged to?
- 27:51Speaker 2: And Michelle he just looked up and shook his head
- 27:53Speaker 2: and said no.
- 27:54Speaker 1: Barbier just stared at Michelle for a moment, sort of
- 27:56Speaker 1: just gauging his reaction, and then eventually he said, well,
- 28:00Speaker 1: the body belonged to Francoise Gendron. When Michelle heard this,
- 28:04Speaker 1: he really looked like he was in complete shock. But
- 28:06Speaker 1: Barbier immediately followed up and said, Michelle, did you kill Francois?
- 28:11Speaker 1: And Michelle his reaction was to immediately shout no, that
- 28:15Speaker 1: Francoise was a great friend of his and he would
- 28:17Speaker 1: never hurt her. Barbier was crazy for thinking he would
- 28:20Speaker 1: do that. And then again and again he just insisted
- 28:23Speaker 1: that he was completely innocent here now, immediately, Barbier thought
- 28:27Speaker 1: Michelle's reaction here was pretty genuine. But just then there
- 28:31Speaker 1: was a knock on the door, and so Barbier he
- 28:33Speaker 1: got up and he stepped out into the hallway, and
- 28:36Speaker 1: another officer told him that the forensics team had just
- 28:38Speaker 1: found a piece of evidence that almost certainly would crack
- 28:41Speaker 1: this case wide open based on forensic evidence and an
- 28:50Speaker 1: eventual confession. This is what police believe happened to Francoise
- 28:54Speaker 1: Gendron On the morning of December twelfth, nineteen eighty eight,
- 29:04Speaker 1: around ten am, the killer knocked on the door of
- 29:06Speaker 1: Francois's apartment. Prince Wise answered the door, wrapped in a
- 29:10Speaker 1: towel and told the killer to come on inside.
- 29:12Speaker 2: The killer stepped in and they acted.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Very friendly and casual, as if this visit was nothing
- 29:16Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. But after the two had chatted
- 29:19Speaker 1: for a while, the killer decided it was time to
- 29:22Speaker 1: put their plan into action. After all, Francoise was a
- 29:25Speaker 1: problem for them and they had to deal with her
- 29:28Speaker 1: once and for all. So at some point the killer
- 29:30Speaker 1: told friends wise that they had something they wanted to
- 29:33Speaker 1: show her and asked if she would come over to
- 29:35Speaker 1: the Killer's home just for a minute to show them.
- 29:37Speaker 1: Francoise eventually agreed, and once she got dressed, the two
- 29:40Speaker 1: of them headed out together. And so the two of
- 29:42Speaker 1: them they walked their way to the killer's home. They
- 29:45Speaker 1: go inside, and then before the killer is going to
- 29:47Speaker 1: show Francoise, you know what they brought.
- 29:49Speaker 2: Them over here to show them.
- 29:51Speaker 1: They first made them both a pot of tea, and critically,
- 29:53Speaker 1: the killer crushed up a few anti anxiety pills and
- 29:57Speaker 1: put those in the bottom of Francoise's cup of tea.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Then the killer brought the tea over to the kitchen
- 30:02Speaker 1: table where Francoise was sitting, and the killer sat down
- 30:05Speaker 1: with her and they both drank their tea. The killer
- 30:07Speaker 1: made sure Francoise drank her entire cup, but by the
- 30:10Speaker 1: time Francoise had finished her tea, she was so sedated.
- 30:14Speaker 2: From the drugs that she could barely sit up.
- 30:16Speaker 1: At this point, the killer knew they could move on
- 30:18Speaker 1: to the next phase of their plan, and so the
- 30:20Speaker 1: killer at this point lifted Francoise up out of the seat.
- 30:23Speaker 2: She didn't put up a fight, and.
- 30:25Speaker 1: They carried her over to the bathroom and they put
- 30:27Speaker 1: her into the tub and they turned on the water,
- 30:29Speaker 1: and then eventually, when the water filled up high enough,
- 30:32Speaker 1: the killer just pushed Francois's head under the water and
- 30:35Speaker 1: again france Wise, because of the drugs, couldn't do anything
- 30:39Speaker 1: to stop it, and she remained under the water until
- 30:42Speaker 1: she fell unconscious. After Francoise was dead, the killer simply
- 30:46Speaker 1: drained the tub and then cut Francoise's body into pieces
- 30:50Speaker 1: to make it easier to dispose of. They took the
- 30:52Speaker 1: pieces and shoved them into blue trash bags and then
- 30:55Speaker 1: dumped them in the parking lot of a nearby hospital
- 30:58Speaker 1: ten minutes away. But the bigger problem for the killer
- 31:01Speaker 1: was Francoise's head. The killer wanted to completely erase Francoise's identity,
- 31:07Speaker 1: so for that reason they kept her head at their home.
- 31:10Speaker 1: They would flush Francois's teeth down the toilet, and they
- 31:13Speaker 1: would take the other pieces of her head and they
- 31:15Speaker 1: would throw them into a nearby river. However, despite all
- 31:19Speaker 1: this effort, the killer forgot one thing, which was they
- 31:22Speaker 1: put Francoise's hands in those blue trash bags, and so
- 31:26Speaker 1: her body was identified by her fingerprints just a few
- 31:29Speaker 1: days later, and then not long after that, a tip
- 31:32Speaker 1: soon led the police right to the killer's door, and
- 31:35Speaker 1: when they investigated the killer's home, they found crucial pieces
- 31:39Speaker 1: of evidence in her bathroom. The killer was Francoise's own
- 31:43Speaker 1: best friend.
- 31:44Speaker 2: Sylvie Reverigo. Sylvie had always.
- 31:47Speaker 1: Been sort of jealous of Francoise, primarily because she seemed
- 31:51Speaker 1: happy all the time, and on top of that, Francoise
- 31:54Speaker 1: got a lot of attention from men, which just again
- 31:57Speaker 1: made Sylvie jealous. And since the two women host divorce
- 32:00Speaker 1: were spending so much time together, even more than in
- 32:03Speaker 1: their childhood, their friendship had gotten suffocatingly close, and over
- 32:08Speaker 1: this recent period of time where they were sort of
- 32:11Speaker 1: on top of each other, Sylvie's jealousy and sort of
- 32:13Speaker 1: resentment towards Francoise turned into full blown hatred. Initially, Sylvie
- 32:20Speaker 1: had tried to pin the murder on Michelle and Luke
- 32:22Speaker 1: by telling another friend of Francoise's, a woman named Yvette,
- 32:26Speaker 1: that those two men had threatened to kill Francoise, and
- 32:29Speaker 1: just as Sylvie had hoped, Yvette had called the police
- 32:32Speaker 1: and passed along what she had said. But unbeknownst to Sylvie,
- 32:36Speaker 1: Yvette also shared another tip with the investigators, which was
- 32:40Speaker 1: that a few days after the murder, Yvette's own daughter
- 32:44Speaker 1: had happened to go to Sylvie's house and her daughter
- 32:46Speaker 1: had found two gold dental crowns in the toilet, and
- 32:50Speaker 1: the daughter and Yvette both knew that franz Sois had
- 32:54Speaker 1: gold dental crowns. So by the time Sylvie was brought
- 32:57Speaker 1: in for questioning, Inspector Barbier was already be pretty sure
- 33:01Speaker 1: she must have had something to do with Francoise's death,
- 33:04Speaker 1: And so police would search Sylvie's home and they would
- 33:06Speaker 1: find traces of blood, and they would also find some
- 33:09Speaker 1: of france Swise's jewelry hidden inside of a box. And
- 33:12Speaker 1: then when Sylvie was confronted with all this evidence and
- 33:15Speaker 1: testimony during her interrogation, Sylvie broke down and confessed. Sylvie
- 33:21Speaker 1: Reverigo was charged with Francoise's murder on December twenty first,
- 33:24Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. Three years later, she was convicted and
- 33:27Speaker 1: sentenced to life in prison.
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