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  No ID is meant for a sane audience No ID may
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  contain Liberty oriented content PINCO discretion
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  is advised now Here's no ID with Paul Banducci
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  and Scott Moskowitz Yeah, we're back. It's no
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  ID. Hello internet. We're back. I'm Scott There
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  we go. Yes, it's No guests tonight and that's
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  all right. It means I don't have to share a mic.
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  Whoo Paul and I can kindle the love. Oh, yeah
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  the Format that we keep saying we're gonna do
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  it took two episodes. But here on number three
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  here. We are I didn't invite any guests this
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  time. We are deconstructing the mainstream narratives
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  of panhandle politics hyper local revolution
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  because every region has a mainstream apparatus
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  that propagandizes I've decided that's gonna
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  kind of be my like tagline or whatever you want
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  to call it. I guess I'll have to work on my tagline.
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  I don't have one yet. I feel like you do. It's
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  a sticker on your laptop and that same sticker
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  resides on my bathroom mirror and it has since
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  before I really even knew you. Taxation is theft.
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  Taxation is theft. Yeah, maybe I should sign
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  in and sign out with that. I'm going to try it
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  out. It's just so you know, industry lingo. When
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  you sign off with something, it's called locking
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  out. So when you go like taxation is theft. I'm
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  Paul Banducci. That's that's lockout. Locking
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  out. OK, OK. So we had we had Mark Luca on on
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  the previous show. Mark Luca did win his seat
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  for Postfall City Council. Thanks to us. That
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  was all us. Oh, yeah. Our promotion is definitely
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  what put him over the top. One hundred percent.
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  We have lots of results to report and dissect
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  and deconstruct. The local elections were yesterday,
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  and boy did nobody notice. A few people did.
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  Some people are big mad. You know, the median
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  age, the median voter age. Do you have any idea?
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  Do you know? I looked it up. Oh, you do know.
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  Well, I'm going to take a guess and then you
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  can tell me how close I am, especially up here.
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  because Kootenai County is. Now, I didn't look
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  at it for Kootenai. This is a nationwide, but
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  I'm assuming it's probably we can. We'll ask
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  Chauncey in a moment. But what do you think it
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  is? I would say in the low 60s. Yeah, you're
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  you're kind of you're in the right vein. Yeah,
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  like old people, young people do not vote. They
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  tend not to for a number of different reasons.
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  So let's see. I mean, I don't even know if we
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  should bother. I mean, that's really I think
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  it's 51. It's like above 50. Oh, I'm actually
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  I'm actually surprised. It's a little high. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So, I mean, not not only do mostly older
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  folks vote Even most older folks don't vote.
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  It's just the ones that do are tend to be older
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  So this was a you know below 30 that not that
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  this is new. I mean, this is the case for off
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  -year Non -presidential local elections, but
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  technically it's not even a midterm not a midterm.
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  No, it's just a low It's an off. It's not a presidential
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  election and it's not anything. It's just a local
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  election for cycle ironically enough positions
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  that matter to us more on the local level, because
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  the city council members, its mayors, particularly
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  if you live in any incorporated area, incorporated
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  city, it actually matters quite a bit. More so
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  than, more so I would say than national representative
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  elections, national senator elections, and to
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  a degree even state senator and representative
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  is the local stuff is what touches you first.
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  But when it comes to who else turned out for
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  this off year election, well, not many. In fact,
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  most Idahoans stayed home. Statewide voter turnout
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  hit just 29%, which is fewer than one in every
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  three registered voters bothering to cast a ballot
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  either absentee or in person. Blaine County,
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  where they decided they were deciding on a couple
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  of mayors and a couple of local option taxes,
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  they led the gem state with a 50 % turnout in
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  Jerome. 44 % showed up to vote down a school
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  levy, followed by Shoshone, Idaho, and Laetaw
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  counties. Caribou also came in with 42%. Meanwhile,
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  bringing up the tail end of the turnout tally,
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  that would not be, well, not the butt end, but
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  it would be Butte County, where only 256 people
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  voted for 18%. Twin Falls, Minidoka, and Jefferson
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  counties landed in the 16 -17 % range, while
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  Gem County. They ended up with the lowest turnout
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  rate in the entire gem state. Those are pretty
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  low numbers for local elections that determine
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  more of your daily life and your daily budget
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  than even federal elections. I should say even
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  number to year. The direction of this. Yeah,
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  but this guy's reading it with like a newscaster.
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  This guy ripped me off. I said that even federal
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  elections every odd or I should say even number
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  to year. The direction of the city, the school
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  board and how much you pay in property taxes.
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  Those are all determined by local elections.
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  And that's less than 30 % of the people deciding
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  for the rest of the 70 % of Idahoans. But I'll
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  bet we're going to hear a lot from those 70 percenters
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  when it comes to complaints about what happens
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  next. You can hear them banging on their keyboards
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  from here. Oh, OK, if we get time, I do want
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  to tackle the old adage that says if you don't
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  vote, you can't complain because I don't buy
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  that. That's bullshit. You should be allowed
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  to complain whether you vote or not. Oh, and
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  in fact, whether I'm allowed or not, I'm doing
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  it. Yeah. Well, a vote is basically just picking
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  your ruler and deciding what flavor of bootleather
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  you'd like more. So a lot of people just go,
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  nah, I'm not going to vote because this is all
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  nonsense. And I don't like what they're doing
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  or what they do to me. So I'll still complain.
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  That's the thing. It's like we've sort of been
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  touching on this, you know, in the the brief
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  yet storied run that this show has had so far,
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  which is we're all just what are we really talking
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  about here? I mean, there's is there anybody
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  the best you can hope for is somebody being like.
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  I'll pledge not to raise your taxes for now.
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  Meanwhile, he's got his fingers crossed behind
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  his back. Are we doing anything meaningful as
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  far as taxation? I mean, not really. I mean,
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  you're still just going to have 35 % of your
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  labor taken from you. No one is talking about
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  it seriously. It's all just shades of more. Yeah.
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  Before we go any further though, I want you to,
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  when you're editing, in the editing room, I want
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  you to take that clip of what are we really talking
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  about here and use that. for future sound drops.
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  Yes. Sound drop. What are we talking about? Yes.
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  In between shows, Paul was the thing that he
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  wanted to know the most was how do I do sound
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  drops? Can you tell me how to do sound drops?
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  You guys are going to when I start learning how
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  to do sound drops. Look out. Yeah, look out.
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  We're just going to we're going to it's going
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  to be a morning zoo before you know it. I'm going
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  to have so much fun. You're going to have so
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  much fun. Check traffic and weather. Yeah. So
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  it's what is expected as far as turnout goes
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  now. Now, as far as what was expected for who
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  won these seats. because the elections took place,
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  just because most people didn't show up, doesn't
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  matter. There was some hand -wringing that went
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  on as far as who endorsed which candidate and
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  what those endorsements meant. And there was
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  maybe some disappointment. I don't know, you
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  can elaborate. Well, in Kootenai County, over
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  the last 10, 12 years, as the Kootenai County
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  Republican precinct committee has leaned a little
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  more conservative than it had in the past, that
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  has been a battle now that has raged very hard
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  for the last decade. a lot of hand wringing over
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  who endorses who and this election was no different.
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  You get a lot of people who get pretty upset
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  when they don't get the endorsement from the
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  official Republican committee in Kootenai County
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  and oftentimes when they don't they get big mad
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  and they move over to what we refer we talked
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  about them last episode they're going to come
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  up a lot the North Idaho Republicans. So what
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  you have in Kootenai County in particular is
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  essentially the North Idaho Republican faction
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  and the Kootenai County Republican precinct committee
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  recommendations. Both organizations put forth
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  their recommendations. Both claim to be conservatives.
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  NIR, North Idaho Republicans, are not. They are
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  essentially Democrats who like to call themselves
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  Republicans. We refer to them as RINOs, Republicans
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  in name only. And that's been the dynamic going
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  on. So in this election, you know, local politics
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  gets pretty nasty, but you had NIR candidates
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  versus actual Republican precinct candidates.
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  And it was a mixed bag of nuts on who won. So
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  the percentages the KCRCC, those endorsed candidates
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  actually did win 62 and change percent of the
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  vote. However, the North Idaho Republicans candidates
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  did win half. And given that that's the commie
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  faction and this is supposed to be deep red territory,
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  I would say it's beyond belief. It isn't. I can't
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  believe they don't realize they're the baddies
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  when they when they like have to employ these
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  deceptive tactics to get their people in there.
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  It's like it's so it's creepy. Well, the general
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  the general populace in North Idaho is fairly
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  Republican conservative, but most of them also
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  tend to be low information and lazy. So what
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  they'll do, as most people do, is if there's
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  an R next to the name, they'll check the box.
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  So that's how the North Idaho Republicans, they
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  understand that. So that's the fight. They put
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  an R next to their name, hoping that they can
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  confuse the voter. And oftentimes they do. Interestingly
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  enough, the math doesn't math when we say that
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  KCRCC took sixty two point five percent. Meanwhile,
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  NIR took fifty percent. Obviously, that doesn't
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  fully math. What are you talking about? Yeah,
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  of course it does. One hundred seventy five percent
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  of the candidate. Oh, wait a minute. There was
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  a little bit of crossover between NIR candidates
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  and KCRCC. Not much, but there was a little bit.
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  What is most interesting to me, though, is that
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  the North Idaho Republican endorsement card resembled
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  the Democrat endorsement card. by about 75 or
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  80 percent. And so interestingly enough, as we
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  look at the charts, the Democrats, their card,
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  their endorsement card, won about half of the
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  local elections. NIR won about half. That doesn't
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  make 100 percent, though. What that is, is both
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  the NIR and the Democrats, they ran the same
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  candidates. They endorsed the same candidates.
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  That's where the crossover is. Right. So the
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  breakdown goes like this. The KCRCC issued the
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  largest slate of endorsements with 31 total candidates
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  and measures. And if you, after removing overlaps
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  and uncontested races, 24 were contested with
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  15 winning. So that's a 62 .5 % success rate.
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  Strong results in Post Falls, Rathdrum as well,
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  and a bunch of school board and fire district
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  contests. And then the North Idaho Republicans,
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  they endorsed 16 total and then 10 were contested
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  and five of those won, which is 50%. So that's
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  where these numbers are coming from. But good
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  to explain it. Interestingly, but not surprisingly,
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  NIR swept in Coeur d 'Alene and Hayden. It was
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  a slaughter in Coeur d 'Alene and Hayden. That'll
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  be a recurring theme as long as we do this podcast,
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  I'm afraid. I pulled this lady. I'm not sure
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  if you've ever heard any of her videos. She runs
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  a website called the Kootenai County Spectator.
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  Her name is Erin Barnard. You ever heard her
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  videos? I haven't watched any of her videos,
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  but I'm familiar with Erin and I'm familiar with
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  the publication. Okay, so I pulled this because
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  she reluctantly voted for Gukin the reptile who
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  is now in the Coeur d 'Alene mayor's chair and
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  So I thought this might shed a little light on
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  Surely she represents some portion of why people
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  cast their votes for for Gukin I had a video
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  already to go. It was about my picks for Coeur
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  d 'Alene City Council and why I was leaving the
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  mayor position blank, but I have seen enough.
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  Today has been a day already. And now I have
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  different thoughts about the races in Coeur d
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  'Alene and I live in Coeur d 'Alene. So it's
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  very important. Now you just have to forgive
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  her for this like Enya music in the background.
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  Like I'm not sure if she's trying to like calm
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  people down because she's sort of, you know,
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  she's just. She's got a little pressure behind
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  her voice because she's doing political topics.
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  So maybe in order to balance it out, she's got
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  like the spa massage music going on. It's not
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  working. I don't feel calm. So it's very important
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  to me. I'm going to tell them to you. I had my
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  video already made today. I wasn't going to say
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  anything about the CDA mayor position. I was
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  going to leave a blank because it is a very interesting
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  position with four contiguous candidates. But
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  that's changed. I watched it all happen today
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  on social media and in person and no longer am
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  I leaving a blank. Now I am voting for Dan Gukin.
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  I wasn't going to. I was going to let you go,
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  but I just can't handle it anymore. Pulsifer,
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  not a good candidate. He sent that quid pro quo
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  letter to Mayor Woody is saying, if you scratch
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  my back, I'll scratch yours. If you get out of
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  the race, I'll put you in my cabinet. If you
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  light my joint, I'll light yours. Not a good
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  candidate. Woody is not a good candidate. He
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  hasn't been a great mayor. I mean, he's been
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  barely decent, but he did not push back for the
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  Charlie Kirk Day remembrance from the liberals.
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  And he almost didn't allow us to have the proclamation.
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  He goes wherever the wind takes him. and right
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  now he's being taken in the liberal way because
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  I don't know, the four liberals in town are screaming.
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  I don't know. But he's not a good candidate.
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  We have seen that. Debbie Lofman may be a nice
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  person, but she has no idea what this position
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  entails. She has no idea what happens and goes
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  on in the city. And the city will chew her up
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  and spit her out. That leaves Yankuken. What
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  am I to do? He's the best of the worst candidates.
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  I don't know. Get better candidates next time.
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  I don't know what to tell you. You know what
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  it is? Their candidates are currently on the
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  city council. No way am I voting for candidates
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  that are sitting on the city council right now
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  in the city of Coeur d 'Alene. I am voting for
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  their opponents. Dan Goog is on the city council.
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  Right. And I think that's what she was saying.
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  Like, well, that's why I was going to leave it
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  blank. Like, I don't want any of you. Is this
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  still scratchy? Just a smidge. But it's better.
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  See, I get I finally get my own mic. Now there's
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  a learning curve scratching on you. It's better
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  now better. OK, I don't want it to clip. So I
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  don't want that up too high. Just want our listeners
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  to get, you know, my deep sultry voice. Oh, yeah.
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  Not scratchy. I've smoked myself out, Paul. After
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  this will Paul's going to do his his love songs.
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  That's that's the dedication show where you can
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  call in and be like, can you play Ferry Manilow?
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  Dude, you got to tune in for the smooth sounds.
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  So I wonder if there was a what contingent Ms.
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  Barna represents like of people who are just
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  like, well, I don't want Dan Guggen either, but
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  who the hell am I supposed to vote for? Normally,
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  I've got a snap answer for that. I don't. It's
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  been a really interesting thing to watch the
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  there's a little a little bit of a schism going
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  on. And Aaron is at the center of it right now.
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  This is where the next couple of years could
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  look very intriguing for the conservative side.
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  Let's OK. Now. With regard to Guggen, your dad
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  mentioned this on the first show and I think
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  it came up in the last one as well about some
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  of the comments that Guggen has made with regard
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  to Christians and conservatives on a podcast
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  that I believe he used to do. It doesn't seem
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  like it's around anymore. No, I think he himself
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  scrubbed it off the internet. I'll put it this
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  way with your question about Aaron. I did not
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  have that on my bingo card. There was also a
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  Twitter account that was I guess his political
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  postings, Dan Gukin political or Gukin Paul or
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  something thereabouts. And I saw a bunch of people
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  posting screenshots of things that he had posted
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  there. Twitter, you know, posting publicly. This
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  what we're about to hear in a moment was, you
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  know, a podcast he did publicly. And then now
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  I look for these things and they're not around.
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  I mean, I don't. So for one, it's just so it's
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  just so spazzy. Why is everyone such a spaz?
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  They're just like mashing buttons on their keyboard
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  like You know it's the internet, no? Like you
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  can't, you cannot scrub stuff off the internet.
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  You could try. I mean, I guess, like, so for
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  one, it's just so pathetic posting and deleting,
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  you know, at least have the courage to stand
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  by. Or if you don't, if you're like, well, that
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  was embarrassing and I was whatever in a different
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  mindset. And, you know, I got off my, my Selexa
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  and that was just, you know, was my ser, my selective
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  serotonin was running low. And now I don't feel
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  that way anymore. And I'm really sorry about
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  what I did. So that's one thing I can understand
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  wanting to, you know, you don't think the way
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  you used to. But this is neither one of those
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  things. He's not sorry. He's not taking it back.
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  He's just scrubbing it and acting like the whole
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  thing never happened. It's a bona fide scrub
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  job. He did us. It was a podcast. It was a solo
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  podcast. He did it for a couple of years. And
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  podcast has been, I think, very charitable. Most
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  of the time, it was him just ranting to whoever
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  would listen to him on the Internet. And most
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  of it was, you know, profanity laced, unhinged
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  type stuff. Not not a good look. So smart of
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  him to do the scrub job as best he could. They
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  don't give a They all I'm a Bible believe in
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  Christian. Oh, hey, by the way, he's in this
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  he's wearing a headset with a microphone attached
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  Like he's like he's flying an f -14, you know,
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  I believe in Jesus and it guides my life as a
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  Christian conservative so Christian family values
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  Christian conservative mindless cult member group
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  thinking morons. Are you a pussy Europe? pussy.
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  He was looking at a mirror, by the way, when
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  you're saying that the rudest, most disrespectful
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  jerks I have ever seen. I seriously think if
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  Jesus were here today, he would have a message
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  for everyone who's a Christian. And he would
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  just say, get the white supremacists gay. I felt
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  really gay last night. Come over. That's quotable
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  gay time Christian nationalism now, but let's
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  cut right to the chase. It's white nationalism,
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  real hardcore Christians and Christians to Self
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  and to go to hell They don't give yeah, okay
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  got it. You get the idea. That's Dan It is a
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  super cut that you could make a hundred super
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  cuts like this from all of his content I'm sure
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  you could and you can also make anybody sound
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  you can't unhinged doing this and Because the
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  source material is not around or it's not easily
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  findable I wasn't able to actually hear this
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  stuff in context which is unfortunate However,
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  as somebody who's been around in the area long
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  enough to have seen a lot of this in its full
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  breadth and depth and in context, it's pretty
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  representative. Really gay. That is very representative.
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  I wish he was still. I mean, that's entertaining.
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  I mean, I wish he would. Why isn't he doing this
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  anymore? Are you not entertained? Yeah, I am.
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  Dan Gukin has always been an entertaining man.
• 18:21
  That that is true. And actually, he's a very
• 18:25
  intelligent guy who just does and says a lot
• 18:29
  of dumb stuff and doesn't connect the dots in
• 18:31
  a way that is very intelligent. I really wish
• 18:33
  I would have been in that parking lot when he
• 18:35
  was screaming at your dad throwing things and
• 18:37
  flipping off like because it boy does it sound
• 18:39
  entertaining speaking of feeling very gay he
• 18:41
  was feeling it that night he was like oh my gosh
• 18:44
  I love you too I mean you're the worst Todd well
• 18:46
  you know love and hate it's a fine line sometimes
• 18:49
  in the words of sublime fighting and fucking
• 18:51
  it's all the same all right so here's a little
• 18:54
  bit more of miss Erin Bernard's thoughts with
• 18:56
  regard to post falls Current mayor Ron Jacobson
• 18:59
  has been mayor this entire time. This massive
• 19:03
  growth in postfalls has happened and the sprawl
• 19:05
  that's happening throughout the prairie, the
• 19:08
  apartment complexes, the giant Hyatt Place Hotel
• 19:11
  next to the freeway, that has all happened under
• 19:14
  his watch. You know what else has happened under
• 19:16
  his watch? The taxes have been raised multiple
• 19:19
  times throughout the last couple of years. Last
• 19:22
  year it was raised 7%. This year it was raised
• 19:25
  3%. next fiscal year, it was raised three percent.
• 19:30
  Randy Westlin is a current city councilman and
• 19:34
  he's also running for mayor. So as you can tell,
• 19:36
  this was recorded before the election. Randy
• 19:39
  has won the post fall as mayoral seat. But this
• 19:41
  is a critique that she has because she's apparently
• 19:45
  someone else who is on the taxation is theft
• 19:47
  bandwagon. We only played a little bit of Randy
• 19:49
  on the last show and it was. his proposition
• 19:53
  about how to incentivize city employees better.
• 19:56
  But this is what she posits. And I want to get
• 19:57
  your reaction. And he's also running for mayor.
• 20:00
  However, we have a problem. He keeps calling
• 20:02
  himself the conservative candidate and the KCRCC,
• 20:05
  who's supposed to be Republican and conservative,
• 20:08
  are supporting him. However, he voted last year
• 20:12
  to raise taxes seven percent. He voted to raise
• 20:14
  taxes this year, another three percent. And There
• 20:18
  is no end in sight and I'm having a really hard
• 20:21
  time voting for someone who is actively trying
• 20:25
  to spend funds and not give them back to the
• 20:27
  taxpayer. There was a surplus of $800 ,000 this
• 20:30
  last year. You know what they did? They chose
• 20:32
  to spend it on things for the future instead
• 20:35
  of giving it back to the taxpayer. 30 minutes
• 20:37
  later they voted to raise taxes another 3%. So
• 20:40
  this is what I'm talking about. Fiscal responsibility.
• 20:44
  Everyone says they have it. Let's start practicing
• 20:47
  it. So I'm just wondering where the choices are.
• 20:50
  Is there anybody who actually thinks that they
• 20:53
  should go in the other direction? Taxes or is
• 20:55
  it just we won't raise them for the next few
• 20:58
  minutes if you're lucky? Like, is that the best
• 21:00
  we can hope for? That's the best answer we can
• 21:03
  hope for for most candidates. Yeah. And then
• 21:06
  once they get in, it's probably the best we can
• 21:08
  hope for in their actions as well. It's an interesting
• 21:12
  take from Aaron to. throw your support behind
• 21:15
  Dan Guggen, who is definitely not a fiscal conservative,
• 21:18
  and then flay a guy who has shown to be more
• 21:22
  conservative most of the time. Well, she didn't
• 21:25
  really, she didn't really throw her support behind
• 21:28
  him. She sort of was like, I have to hold your
• 21:30
  nose and vote. Yeah, like I if there were if
• 21:32
  a plastic snowman was running, I would vote for
• 21:34
  that. But unfortunately, I have who's my choice.
• 21:37
  Yeah, but if you're gonna so I hear you, but
• 21:39
  if you're gonna hold your nose and vote, why
• 21:41
  not Debbie Lofman, who is the rookie and is the
• 21:45
  endorsed candidate by the more conservative County,
• 21:47
  Republican precinct committee. Like that's who
• 21:49
  I would hold my nose and vote for if I thought
• 21:51
  she matched my values better. Yeah. And I'd rather
• 21:54
  have a rookie in the system than an incumbent
• 21:56
  almost every time. When people talk about experience,
• 21:58
  they're like, oh, experience matters. And I'm
• 22:00
  like, no, no, you I'd like you to be there for
• 22:02
  two years and then go away. Well, that's an OK.
• 22:06
  So what did she say? Remembrance from liberals.
• 22:08
  And he almost didn't allow us to have the. Proclamation
• 22:14
  he goes wherever the wind takes him and Right
• 22:17
  now he's being taken in the liberal way because
• 22:20
  I don't know the four liberals in town are screaming
• 22:23
  I that was Woody that she was talking about there
• 22:25
  by the way, like what do you mean? He's going
• 22:27
  to allow the Charlie Kirk Day remembers from
• 22:30
  the liberals and he almost didn't Allow us to
• 22:33
  have what is he like a god king? Like what do
• 22:36
  you mean? You didn't allow us like this is what
• 22:39
  I'm talking about. Like what is who did the Can
• 22:42
  Woody unilaterally declare, like, you guys are
• 22:45
  allowed to have this or not? Like, will it's
• 22:47
  a city park? Like, yeah, so what, man? It belongs
• 22:50
  to the people. Well, from where I'm sitting,
• 22:53
  there is no divisiveness and we can all get along.
• 22:56
  That being said, if you show up at the park,
• 22:58
  you will be tackled and zip -tied. Well, but
• 23:03
  to your point, though, you're right. The mayor
• 23:05
  is not the god king. And actually, I was going
• 23:07
  to mention that when Aaron talks about the growth
• 23:08
  of Post Falls under Mayor Jacobson. He has some
• 23:11
  control over that, but not all control over that.
• 23:13
  And I'm not going to be one to defend Jacobson
• 23:15
  because frankly, I think he's been in there for
• 23:18
  way too long and he's an establishment guy. However,
• 23:21
  you have to, you can't assign problems to somebody
• 23:24
  whose fault it is not. Yeah. Well, OK. And I
• 23:27
  was trying to agree. I was also trying to find
• 23:30
  what you have seen that Debbie Laughman may be
• 23:32
  a nice person, but she has no idea what this
• 23:35
  position entails. She has no idea what happens
• 23:38
  and goes on in the city. And the city will chew
• 23:41
  her up and spit her out. That leaves Jan Gukin.
• 23:43
  So that right. So to your point, you know, she's
• 23:45
  saying, oh, she's she's green. She doesn't know
• 23:47
  what she's doing. But like you said, I would
• 23:50
  I would rather have that. Do you guys it's an
• 23:53
  old movie with Jimmy Stewart? As Mr. Smith goes
• 23:56
  to Washington. Everybody loves that movie. All
• 23:58
  time classic. Yeah. Right. And it's charming.
• 24:00
  Right. He shows up. He's got no experience and
• 24:03
  he personifies the American mentality. Like,
• 24:07
  I don't want to be here. None of us should be
• 24:08
  here. But here we are. We're a body of Congress
• 24:10
  and we got to make some laws, at least so we
• 24:12
  think. And so I'm going to do the best I can.
• 24:13
  And of course, he's naive and he gets he gets
• 24:15
  used and abused and yada yada yada. But I'd rather
• 24:18
  have a guy who goes in with no experience. it's
• 24:21
  going to try to do something. Yeah. You haven't
• 24:23
  been captured by the establishment yet. Maybe,
• 24:25
  maybe. And I know that probably sounds just speaking
• 24:28
  of naive. It probably sounds stupid and naive
• 24:30
  coming out of my mouth, but I don't want the
• 24:32
  incumbents. I don't want the lifelong politicians.
• 24:34
  I don't want the people as we've discussed before
• 24:37
  in there who want to be in there. Yes. That premise,
• 24:41
  as you say it, there's that show Ted Lasso who's
• 24:44
  like, and he's, isn't he like a super green?
• 24:46
  Like he's never coached. anything in his life
• 24:48
  and they get... I could be wrong. He's never
• 24:49
  coached soccer. So I've seen a lot of clips of
• 24:53
  the show, but I think it was three seasons. I
• 24:54
  haven't seen actually anything in its entirety,
• 24:56
  but I've heard good things. Well, my wife watched
• 24:58
  it and I know that maybe he's, you know, he's
• 25:01
  green, you know, and he's just like sort of this
• 25:04
  naive, cheerful, he's not a soccer coach. He's
• 25:07
  not a grizzled season soccer coach, but he gets
• 25:10
  put in this role. And my point is that we do
• 25:13
  find that premise to be charming. It's shown
• 25:15
  in these works of fiction to be really effective.
• 25:18
  But then real life, you know, we're worried that
• 25:20
  this city is going to and the city will tour
• 25:23
  up and spit her out. Right. Well, speaking of
• 25:25
  complaining, everybody complains, likes to complain
• 25:28
  about how all the candidates look the same every
• 25:30
  cycle. That's because nobody wants to vote for
• 25:32
  anybody new or different. If we vote for the
• 25:37
  lesser of two evils again and again and again,
• 25:39
  we still get plenty of evil. OK, speaking of
• 25:43
  evil, here's a now let's These are these are
• 25:46
  other topics that are tied into the because this
• 25:48
  is a lot of the points of conversation leading
• 25:50
  up to the elections that the Candidates were
• 25:53
  speaking about so that's you know housing growth.
• 25:55
  We talked about public art on the previous show
• 25:58
  So I have a smattering of clips Covering some
• 26:01
  of those topics that are not necessarily related
• 26:03
  to exactly election results, but they are related
• 26:05
  to election topics so a couple clips on housing
• 26:09
  that I wanted to play Because speaking of more
• 26:12
  of the same, have you followed the core tear
• 26:15
  project that has been discussed? It's been going
• 26:17
  on for a number of years now. Loosely. There's
• 26:21
  maybe more than any other topic. There's talk
• 26:23
  about growth and affordable housing, growth and
• 26:26
  affordable housing, responsible growth and affordable
• 26:28
  housing. How do we grow responsibly and make
• 26:30
  houses affordable? Mark Lucas said it best a
• 26:32
  couple weeks ago when he said the three main
• 26:34
  topics of conversation for our campaign is growth,
• 26:37
  growth and growth. If you are wondering if we're
• 26:40
  still in a housing crisis, you do not watch this
• 26:43
  segment enough. It's nearly all I talk about.
• 26:46
  But when I say we are still in a housing crisis,
• 26:49
  I'm not just talking about Idaho. According to
• 26:52
  the National Low Income Housing Coalition, poor
• 26:54
  households face a housing shortage in every state
• 26:57
  and major metropolitan area in the country. There's
• 27:01
  a shortage of more than 7 million affordable
• 27:03
  and available rentals for households in poverty.
• 27:07
  That translates to only 35 of those rentals for
• 27:10
  every 100 households in poverty in the U .S.
• 27:14
  That number is slightly lower in Idaho, which
• 27:16
  ranks us in the worst 15 in the country. Everyone
• 27:20
  making around or below the median income is facing
• 27:23
  a housing shortage. All that's to say the situation
• 27:26
  in our communities is not unique because the
• 27:29
  issues creating the housing crisis are nationwide.
• 27:33
  Boise's Director of Housing and Homelessness
• 27:35
  Policy, Nikki Olivier -Helenkamp, knows the city
• 27:38
  of... Okay, well, when you have that many hyphens
• 27:40
  and syllables in your name, get ready for her
• 27:41
  to speak about absolutely nothing that is actually
• 27:44
  pertinent to the housing crisis. Wait, wait,
• 27:46
  I know what she's going to say. It's because
• 27:47
  of racism. That's why. That's why there's not
• 27:50
  enough housing for homeless people. The housing
• 28:11
  crisis is really driven by macroeconomic forces,
• 28:14
  right, that are as we see people migrate, as
• 28:18
  we see interest rates rise and fall, as we see
• 28:21
  the construction labor market, you know, respond
• 28:24
  to the needs or not respond to the needs, as
• 28:27
  we see challenges in terms of the cost of land
• 28:30
  and the cost of building materials. These things
• 28:33
  are all coming into play. Actually, that was
• 28:36
  a I got to admit that was a more intelligent
• 28:39
  response than I expected. And she's not wrong.
• 28:41
  All of those factors are real factors where she's
• 28:44
  going to probably go wrong. And where most people
• 28:46
  go wrong is that government is the reason all
• 28:48
  four of those factors are in play, which we can
• 28:51
  unpack any time we want here. There is a and
• 28:54
  forgive us because, you know, that the horse
• 28:56
  is laying in the street and it has X's for eyes.
• 28:59
  And we're just wailing on it with sluggers. And
• 29:01
  it's just not going to. OK, in a nutshell, I'll
• 29:03
  go down like the four billion materials. Tariffs
• 29:06
  don't help with that. Duh, along with closing
• 29:09
  down factories for COVID and thinking they'll
• 29:11
  just ramp up without any issues. Well, the air
• 29:13
  was dangerous. Oh, my gosh, you know, and then
• 29:15
  the regulatory environment and how much it costs
• 29:17
  to employ a person. All of that makes it hard
• 29:19
  to turn a profit and makes building materials
• 29:22
  cost more land. OK, in places everybody wants
• 29:25
  to move. Land is scarce. It just is what it is.
• 29:28
  Supply and demand like actual housing supply.
• 29:32
  You have to build more. There's no other way
• 29:34
  to get around it. You can't sit there and complain
• 29:37
  and be like, we don't have enough houses in this
• 29:38
  county. And then when builders go, OK, we'd like
• 29:41
  to build some housing. And you go, no, not right
• 29:43
  there. Not right there. Oh, and by the way, if
• 29:45
  we allow you to guess what percentage of the
• 29:48
  build cost is going to be government fees. Twenty
• 29:50
  five percent. If you're lucky, if you're lucky,
• 29:52
  humongous. OK, so that's that's the that's the
• 29:55
  building side of it, the supply side of it. Yeah.
• 29:58
  And then the Federal Reserve. I got to get that
• 30:00
  in because like you complain about interest rates,
• 30:02
  complain about the central banking system. That's
• 30:04
  government also. Here is Daniel Mitchell. He's
• 30:08
  a senior fellow from the Cato Institute and I
• 30:11
  because it's maybe more effective if you hear
• 30:13
  him say this Well, what this chart shows is that
• 30:17
  the very top green box is your income that you
• 30:20
  earn Then you have a blue box. You pay tax on
• 30:23
  your income up to 35 % 35 % 35 % What's left?
• 30:28
  The second green box is your after -tax income
• 30:30
  What happens if you save an investor after tax
• 30:33
  income? It gets inflated away. The federal government,
• 30:35
  between the corporate income tax, the capital
• 30:37
  gains tax, the double tax on dividends, and the
• 30:39
  death tax, will subject you to as many as four
• 30:42
  different layers of taxation. And sales taxes,
• 30:45
  and property taxes. And inflation. Okay, so that's
• 30:48
  the reason that I'm beating the crap out of this
• 30:51
  horse that's been dead since the mid -70s, is
• 30:53
  because no... Buddy mentions it as if it's not
• 30:57
  a factor. So everybody that's wringing their
• 31:00
  hands and clutching their pearls about affordable
• 31:02
  housing is full of baloney. They just don't connect
• 31:05
  the dots. That's the problem. Like everybody
• 31:07
  knows what the issues are, but they don't understand
• 31:10
  the root causes of the issues. And so they misconnect
• 31:13
  the dots. It's a I don't it doesn't compute to
• 31:17
  me that there's any dots not to connect when
• 31:20
  that's because you're a smart person. I just
• 31:23
  feel like I'm not retarded. I don't know if that
• 31:25
  makes me smart. It's a fine line, Scott. What
• 31:30
  dots are there not to connect? You work from
• 31:34
  January until Memorial Day before you start to
• 31:38
  make money for yourself. And then then there's
• 31:41
  talk about, well, how can people afford housing?
• 31:44
  Well, gee, I can think of a place to start, but
• 31:47
  no one wants to start there. You're telling me
• 31:49
  it's because they don't connect the dots. I mean,
• 31:51
  it's the stupider liar. So you're basically like,
• 31:54
  well, they're stupid. There's talk about another
• 31:56
  stimulus package going around. The best stimulus
• 31:58
  package they could ever give us is to stop taking
• 32:02
  our money. Exactly the horse that I'm beating,
• 32:04
  the dead horse that is being will continue to
• 32:07
  be beaten on this show. It's the single biggest
• 32:09
  factor that's preventing things like housing
• 32:11
  from being affordable and preventing houses from
• 32:14
  being built is because these massive percentages
• 32:17
  get taken right off the top and then no one acknowledges
• 32:20
  it. It's as if it's not happening. From a macro
• 32:23
  to a micro level, you can have micro conversations
• 32:26
  with people and everyone pretends like taxes
• 32:28
  don't exist. Oh yeah, I make $94 ,000 a year.
• 32:30
  No, you don't. You make like 57. So the growth
• 32:33
  issue, obviously, is a big one here in North
• 32:35
  Idaho. So there I go raining it back in. And
• 32:38
  it was on everybody's minds at the local level.
• 32:40
  The problem is, and when we listen to Erin's
• 32:43
  clips, she complains about growth under Jacobson.
• 32:47
  And I think, you know, that's on everybody's
• 32:48
  minds. But so what do you do about it? Right.
• 32:50
  Like as a council member in Post Falls, which
• 32:53
  is the fastest growing city in North Idaho by
• 32:55
  far, because it's got the room to grow. Housing
• 32:58
  shortages are a real problem. Affordability is
• 33:00
  a real problem. but everybody's pissed about
• 33:02
  the growth. So what do you do, Aaron Bernard?
• 33:05
  And who do you vote for if you're mad at everybody
• 33:08
  for allowing growth, but you're mad that you
• 33:11
  can't afford a house? Here is a big local growth
• 33:16
  project among very many. But this one has stirred
• 33:19
  up actually some, I guess, well, the pushback
• 33:23
  is pretty much no matter what project you're
• 33:25
  talking about. But it's also, I've had this brought
• 33:27
  up to me by a couple of different personal acquaintances
• 33:29
  as something they were excited about. Well tonight
• 33:32
  the developer behind 2 ,800 new homes in Coeur
• 33:35
  d 'Alene wants to make a slight change to the
• 33:37
  project to provide more diverse housing options.
• 33:40
  Gramp 2's Connor McEvoy spoke with the developers
• 33:42
  and neighbors near the project who are against
• 33:45
  it. Brian Rogers moved to North Idaho with his
• 33:47
  family for the scenery but he says the views
• 33:49
  he's come to love are going to be in short supply.
• 33:52
  Can you pause that real quick? He moved here
• 33:54
  for the scenery. Well, I was born here, man.
• 33:57
  Like get over it. Come on. Like we talked about
• 34:00
  this. They move, you move here and then you get
• 34:02
  upset that other people want to move here and
• 34:04
  live here. Like I'm trying not to cuss on this
• 34:08
  show, but fuck right off. Get bent. These are
• 34:12
  not connecting the dots. So the dots are there
• 34:14
  to connect Scott. People just don't want to connect
• 34:16
  them because like it doesn't suit their purposes
• 34:19
  in the moment. That's preference versus principle,
• 34:21
  and I talk about that all the time. That's the
• 34:22
  difference between principles and preference.
• 34:24
  I believe in this until I don't like the way
• 34:27
  it affects me. We keep landing on the stupid
• 34:30
  side of the stupider liar argument. We're like,
• 34:32
  well, they're not connecting the dots. It's so
• 34:34
  hard for me to accept what a concentrated percentage
• 34:39
  of my fellow reptiles, I mean, citizens are.
• 34:43
  are just they can't connect dots that it seems
• 34:45
  like you have to go out of your way not to connect.
• 34:48
  And they interviewed this guy. This is what really
• 34:49
  gets me is that this outlet interviews this guy,
• 34:52
  this news outlet, interviews this guy and nobody
• 34:54
  involved has any sense of irony at all. It's
• 34:57
  like there's going to be a developed 28 more,
• 35:00
  2 ,800 more houses. This is a good thing, but
• 35:03
  people are mad. So we're going to talk to somebody
• 35:05
  who moved here because it's a great place to
• 35:07
  live who doesn't want anyone else to be able
• 35:09
  to move here. He's mad. Well, also to the the
• 35:13
  notion of scenery, like, of course, it's beautiful.
• 35:16
  There are a lot of beautiful places. There's
• 35:18
  kind of beauty in any given setting. If you look
• 35:21
  for it, like, well, what if you're, you know,
• 35:23
  in the middle of the plains of freaking Kansas
• 35:25
  and you can just see the curvature of the earth
• 35:27
  in every direction because there's just nothing.
• 35:30
  OK. Oh, sunsets are glorious. OK. Right. I've
• 35:33
  been in Oklahoma, man. Oklahoma sunsets, hard
• 35:35
  to beat. Tons of cloud drama, the big open sky.
• 35:38
  They're glorious. Yeah, every place has its perks.
• 35:40
  So that's exactly what I mean. There's beauty
• 35:42
  in every, and I hear that a ton because, okay,
• 35:44
  yes, of course North Idaho's beautiful. A lot
• 35:46
  of, almost every place is beautiful in its own
• 35:49
  way. Sure. We're going to be in short supply.
• 35:52
  We kind of fell in love with the beauty of the
• 35:54
  area. which is being destroyed. One day at a
• 35:58
  time right now. You or tear is a nearly 450 acre
• 36:00
  plan community located just across the street
• 36:02
  from Rogers home near Hunter and Greta Avenue.
• 36:05
  It includes 2800 living units along with businesses,
• 36:09
  18 acres of parks and land for two public schools.
• 36:12
  Cooney County land companies developing the project,
• 36:14
  which has been in the works for years and stirs
• 36:16
  up plenty of opinions among people who live nearby.
• 36:19
  Roger says he and others worry about the increase
• 36:21
  in traffic between having the right type of traffic
• 36:24
  control and then the amount of housing that we're
• 36:26
  putting over, which is currently set for 2800
• 36:29
  units. We're very concerned. It's a concerned
• 36:33
  echo during tonight's Coeur d 'Alene City Council
• 36:35
  meeting. The developers requested city leaders
• 36:37
  leaders leaders leaders, allowing turning 23
• 36:41
  of those acres into an active adult senior living
• 36:43
  building and traditional three story apartment
• 36:46
  buildings. The company's president, Melissa Wells,
• 36:48
  presented the information alongside her staff.
• 36:50
  She says their reasoning for the request is to
• 36:52
  have more diverse housing options. It reflects
• 36:55
  the current market realities, demographic shifts
• 36:58
  in community housing needs that basically have
• 37:01
  evolved since we put together this original conceptual
• 37:04
  plan. Council voted in favor of the change as
• 37:07
  well as allowing city staff to work with the
• 37:09
  developers to work on any traffic related issues.
• 37:11
  Community members fear before construction begins.
• 37:14
  However, Rogers isn't optimistic about the project
• 37:16
  and says no matter what changes may occur down
• 37:19
  the road, there are going to be problems. So
• 37:21
  they can put up stop signs and we can do stop
• 37:23
  lights and we can do roundabouts. But long and
• 37:25
  short of it is the amount of volume that they're
• 37:27
  looking to do with commercial spaces is very
• 37:30
  concerning. Construction for the project set
• 37:32
  to start late into next year. I'm also told by
• 37:35
  city officials that anyone who's against the
• 37:37
  project has until November 27th to go fry ice
• 37:40
  on the Macklemore Crime 2 News. Okay, I actually
• 37:43
  know this development now, what you're talking
• 37:45
  about. This is what they're calling the Hutter
• 37:48
  corridor. So my folks, their primary residence,
• 37:52
  well, their only their only property is up against
• 37:54
  this development. What are you talking about?
• 37:56
  I thought he was trying to take over North Idaho
• 37:57
  College so we could develop it. Oh, totally.
• 37:59
  Yeah, no, my dad. But just until he does that,
• 38:01
  this is their only residence. Chaos. Okay, this
• 38:04
  is actually this is the chaos they warned about
• 38:06
  is, you know, yeah. No, this actually impacts
• 38:10
  my family just as hard or harder than anybody
• 38:13
  because right now my dad, we're able to go across
• 38:16
  the cul -de -sac and into the field where there
• 38:18
  is no housing right now. And that's where it's
• 38:20
  going to be. That's where it's going to be. Yeah.
• 38:23
  So, and there is concern. It's in the Royal Highlands
• 38:26
  area. There is concern they're going to drive
• 38:28
  a couple of roads through and connect the neighborhoods
• 38:30
  all together and then connect it out to Hunter
• 38:32
  and all that kind of stuff. And it's valid concerns,
• 38:34
  but it's coming. It's coming. So we look at that
• 38:38
  and go, man, yeah. growth. It's a bummer. But
• 38:40
  also, we got to have the houses, which is how
• 38:43
  it goes. Project's been in the works for like
• 38:44
  10 years already. Yes, it has been. Has it been
• 38:46
  that long? It's been a while. Well, it's been
• 38:48
  in the works since before the land actually was
• 38:50
  sold. Armstrong was the owner of that land until
• 38:52
  just about two or three years ago. He sold it
• 38:54
  to the developer. And the rule was they couldn't
• 38:56
  develop it until he died. And I believe that
• 38:58
  just happened a year or so ago. So now they're
• 39:00
  starting to work really hard and fast on it.
• 39:02
  It's going to take them another five, six years
• 39:03
  to get it done because that's how, you know,
• 39:06
  that's the speed at which this stuff moves. But
• 39:08
  yeah, it's going to be a lot of traffic, going
• 39:09
  to be a lot of houses. But it's in a spot that
• 39:12
  connects Coeur d 'Alene to Post Falls, where
• 39:14
  Highlands is actually in the county, oddly enough.
• 39:15
  It's this weird spot in the county. And it just
• 39:18
  is the way it goes, man. That's the way the cookie
• 39:21
  crumbles. Wait, I thought it was going to be
• 39:23
  taxationist theft. Now you're locking out like
• 39:25
  Bruce Almighty. Well, I'm not locking out yet.
• 39:26
  We're in the middle of the podcast. We're not
• 39:27
  locking out. Don't you put me in a box. I mean,
• 39:33
  yeah, that's, you know, that's. your dad and
• 39:36
  his fellow cul -de -sac dwellers would be just
• 39:38
  the type of people who would be, you would think
• 39:40
  would be at these sorts of meetings, like, no,
• 39:42
  I want my cul -de -sac to stay just like it is.
• 39:45
  Before that cul -de -sac was built, I'm sure
• 39:47
  that the people that were adjacent didn't want
• 39:49
  that cul -de -sac to be built. It was probably
• 39:51
  built, what, in the 70s? Yeah, 70s. Yeah. I mean,
• 39:53
  so like, you know, like we've been saying, it's
• 39:54
  just people want... the city around them or the
• 39:58
  space around them frozen at whatever point it
• 40:00
  is they moved into it. By the way, I love the
• 40:02
  notion of people waiting on you to die so that
• 40:04
  some project can get underway. Actually, Armstrong
• 40:06
  put that in the contract. He was an old school
• 40:09
  farmer. So that was he that was his doing. sold
• 40:12
  it off I think to help his family and whatnot
• 40:14
  farming in that section is kind of dead as dead
• 40:16
  can be like it is in most of this area but he
• 40:18
  didn't but they didn't he didn't want to see
• 40:19
  it developed while he was alive I totally dig
• 40:21
  it isn't that amazing it's like why is he in
• 40:23
  a hospital bed there's no pillows that looks
• 40:25
  uncomfortable if ever if everybody knew that
• 40:27
  there'd be a massive county -wide effort to keep
• 40:29
  him alive as long as possible like he's he's
• 40:32
  not dead yet no it's like a weekend at Bernie's
• 40:34
  situation like no look he's alive see he's waving
• 40:36
  at you so anyways yeah the long and the short
• 40:39
  of it is hypocrisy is a word that gets thrown
• 40:42
  around a lot, but it drives me nuts. And I'm
• 40:44
  not trying to be dismissive. I don't like the
• 40:46
  girls either, but I also want my kids to be able
• 40:48
  to afford to live here. And that's a part of
• 40:50
  the equation. A part of the equation down at
• 40:54
  the University of Idaho. Now you didn't go to
• 40:57
  U of I. No, I went to Oklahoma Christian University
• 41:00
  for college. But you did, you went to, where'd
• 41:02
  you go to high school? Lake City. Yeah, Lake
• 41:04
  City High School. Down at Univer - now we've
• 41:07
  talked about, we talked about the Public Arts
• 41:08
  Commission on the last show. And before we -
• 41:12
  clock out today. I do want to cover how the press
• 41:14
  covered some of the oral races. Let's do that.
• 41:16
  We got to dial that back in. We should. You know,
• 41:18
  let's let's do that now before we fully switch
• 41:20
  to this story about art, which it isn't even
• 41:23
  really mainstream deconstruction. It's just a
• 41:25
  construction of a particular like milieu that
• 41:27
  was really captured wonderfully by the lady who's
• 41:29
  the president, the student body president down
• 41:31
  there at the U of I. Well, I'm using Scott's
• 41:33
  words, but you guys are and I agree with them,
• 41:34
  but you guys are the producers and I have heard
• 41:36
  some feedback from our producers that we need
• 41:38
  to try and. keep things on track a little. Really?
• 41:41
  I felt like we did that pretty decently. So we
• 41:43
  rabbit trailed pretty hard our second episode.
• 41:46
  We rabbit trailed a little bit here too. Not
• 41:47
  that that's a bad thing, but you know, we'll
• 41:49
  try to keep it on point for you guys. Yeah. Okay.
• 41:51
  And you know what? It is the nature of, you know,
• 41:53
  stream of consciousness. Sometimes things just,
• 41:55
  but, but yes, I do. And you and I can sit here
• 41:57
  and do this for 10 hours and just go everywhere,
• 41:59
  get a ticket for erratic driving. You would surely
• 42:02
  get pulled out of the car and beaten within an
• 42:04
  inch of your life. And they're done that burnt
• 42:06
  the jumpsuit. Man, there's so much stories to
• 42:08
  tell that we'll get to. Maybe we'll just dedicate
• 42:09
  an entire show to the personal stories of run
• 42:12
  ins with authority. Oh, man. OK, but yeah, let's
• 42:16
  because this is a media deconstruction show.
• 42:18
  You pointed this out before we went live here
• 42:21
  and I thought it was terrific. The Coeur d 'Alene
• 42:23
  press, which is the the biggest it's the mainstream
• 42:26
  newspaper in the area. How they framed their
• 42:28
  headlines with regard to the election results.
• 42:30
  It's magnificent. If ever you want to see yellow
• 42:33
  journalism on parade, read the press for a week
• 42:36
  or two. It's incredible. So with the mayoral
• 42:41
  races for Coeur d 'Alene and Post Falls, just
• 42:44
  beautiful work. Dan Gookin wins. Coeur d 'Alene
• 42:47
  Press article comes out and the headline is Dan's
• 42:49
  the man. Gay. Big old. That's literally the headline.
• 42:52
  That is literally the headline. Dan's the man.
• 42:55
  With about the most flattering picture they could
• 42:56
  conjure up of Dan Gookin. And that's hard to
• 42:58
  do. It is hard. It's really hard to do. With
• 43:00
  his little cowlick. Ah, with this shit eating.
• 43:04
  grin on Dan's face. The press is so stoked that
• 43:07
  their man won. Meanwhile, in Post Falls, their
• 43:10
  man Jacobson did not win. So the article they
• 43:14
  run there is Jacobson reflects on eight years
• 43:19
  of service. Yeah, they didn't mention the guy
• 43:21
  who won. They didn't talk about the guy who won.
• 43:23
  No, they did actually, they did run an article,
• 43:26
  finally, a few hours later, saying, you know,
• 43:29
  here are the results and ho hum, Randle wrestling
• 43:32
  won. Post Falls Mayor reflects on losing bid
• 43:36
  for fourth term. Tell me that you had major horses
• 43:40
  you backed without telling me how sad you are
• 43:42
  that your guy didn't win in Post Falls. No kidding.
• 43:44
  Tell me how happy you were that your man wins
• 43:46
  in Coeur d 'Alene. Gay. This is so along those
• 43:51
  lines. What they chose to use from the AP with
• 43:54
  regard to Mom Donnie winning in New York. And
• 43:57
  it was literally like. Mamdani wins New York
• 44:02
  mayor seat, sparking hope and beautiful thoughts
• 44:05
  from American Muslims everywhere. I mean, I mean,
• 44:07
  it was not that it was that was very close to
• 44:09
  what it was. I'll pull it up. If I could sound
• 44:11
  drop right now, I would sound drop the change
• 44:13
  from South Park during the hope and change years
• 44:16
  of Obama. I'll put it. I'll put it in. Please
• 44:18
  do. Here comes the change, everybody. I'll finish
• 44:23
  that thought with a Mamdani thing in New York.
• 44:25
  A we all saw that come in. No surprise. But B.
• 44:28
  Uh, they're treating him like the next Barack
• 44:30
  Obama. Oh, yes. That's exactly the whole hope
• 44:31
  and change thing and like, which is hilarious
• 44:33
  because all of his ideas have been tried again
• 44:35
  and again and again for the last 150 years and
• 44:37
  they've all failed everywhere. They've been tried,
• 44:39
  but here we go. It's going to work this time.
• 44:41
  It's going to work this time. Scott, these state
• 44:43
  run grocery stores, they're not going to run
• 44:46
  out of food. Food is a basic human right. Sports
• 44:50
  cars are a basic human right. Apparently buses
• 44:52
  are too, because that was part of his campaign
• 44:53
  was, uh, free and fast busing. They love buses.
• 44:59
  Why do they love buses? You know who else uses
• 45:01
  buses? Prisoner transports. And buses are not
• 45:04
  that far off from trains. OK, so let me play
• 45:10
  this. Something very cool is happening at the
• 45:12
  University of Idaho and you'll soon see a new
• 45:14
  but familiar face on campus. Dave Summers traveled
• 45:17
  to Moscow today for the sculpting of Joe Vandal.
• 45:20
  My name is Martha Smith and I'm the student body
• 45:22
  president here at the University of Idaho. OK.
• 45:24
  Now, there's a particular little vocal phenomenon
• 45:27
  that is going on here with Martha Smith, and
• 45:30
  I wonder if you're familiar with what it is.
• 45:33
  My name is Martha Smith and I'm the student body
• 45:34
  president here at the University of Idaho. Do
• 45:36
  you know what that is? No. Do you know what that's
• 45:37
  called? That's called vocal fry. Are you familiar
• 45:40
  with vocal fry? Yeah. Actually, my wife has been
• 45:43
  accused of having vocal fry. Oh, really? Yeah.
• 45:46
  Well, there's a... Okay, let's keep going. At
• 45:49
  the beginning, we put out a call for artists
• 45:51
  and had a ton of people apply. And that was really
• 45:54
  fun to see. We're really excited because, for
• 45:56
  me, one of the things that I was really prioritizing
• 45:58
  was making sure students were involved in it
• 46:00
  and making sure that the student voice was something
• 46:02
  that was valued and heard. U of I has changed
• 46:04
  my life. And I think I say that every time that
• 46:07
  I can because the University of Idaho has been
• 46:08
  really wonderful for not only me, but also my
• 46:10
  family and my little sisters. I thought we were
• 46:11
  talking about art. Well, it is. It's the sculpture
• 46:15
  of Joe Vandal or whatever that's going up. Why
• 46:18
  is she telling us about her? That's a good question.
• 46:21
  I mean, they interviewed her because presumably
• 46:24
  she was involved in the, involved in the picking
• 46:27
  of the artist and what this was, who was going
• 46:29
  to do this? By the way, I'm not, I'm not putting
• 46:30
  you to the fire here, Scott, for your clip. I
• 46:33
  just thought it was interesting that if this
• 46:34
  is an art interview, she let out with herself.
• 46:37
  I mean, I like talking about myself too. We could
• 46:39
  do that all day long. You're right. A ton of
• 46:41
  people apply and that was really fun to see.
• 46:43
  We're really excited because for me one of the
• 46:45
  things that I was really prioritizing was making
• 46:46
  sure students were involved in it and making
• 46:48
  sure that the student voice was something that
• 46:50
  was valued and heard. U of I has changed my life.
• 46:52
  Okay so I can't like uh it's once I once you
• 46:56
  become aware of this phenomenon it becomes really
• 46:58
  obvious when you hear it. Vocal fry? Yeah and
• 47:00
  it's something that drives you nuts doesn't it?
• 47:02
  I personally find yes really great. Okay but
• 47:04
  so here did you ever there was a show that ran
• 47:07
  I don't know, maybe seven, eight years ago called
• 47:09
  Louder Milk starring the guy from Office Space,
• 47:12
  Ron Livingston. There's a scene from that show
• 47:14
  that kind of captures this really well. I thought
• 47:15
  I'd play it. I'd like a large coffee. OK, so
• 47:18
  hot coffee. I know this. OK, room for cream.
• 47:21
  Totally leave room for cream. Why are you talking
• 47:25
  like that? Why are you talking like that? Because
• 47:27
  this is my voice. This is my voice. No, it's
• 47:30
  not. I heard you talking a minute ago. I know
• 47:32
  you don't talk like that. Neither do you because
• 47:33
  nobody actually talks like this. I can't help
• 47:36
  it. This is my voice. No, it's not. It's an affectation
• 47:40
  that annoying teenagers and rich people use to
• 47:42
  sound like they don't give a shit. So is your
• 47:45
  wife an annoying teenager or really wealthy?
• 47:47
  Damn, no. She must be like a phenomenon or something.
• 47:50
  I'm sorry if this is something that you weren't
• 47:52
  aware of and now you are because it's all you'll
• 47:54
  hear. I'm taking this personally now. How dare
• 47:57
  you? That was my fist on the desk. I'll have
• 48:02
  you know, sir, that my wife has a lovely voice.
• 48:04
  Oh, sure. She is neither wealthy nor a teenager.
• 48:07
  And I heard that and I was like, man, that is
• 48:09
  one of the most virulent cases I've seen in quite
• 48:11
  a long time. And I'm glad my wife doesn't listen
• 48:12
  to these. She'd be so pissed. Oh, she could just
• 48:15
  stop talking like that. You hang out with that
• 48:16
  guy, Scott? I say that every time that I can
• 48:18
  because the University of Idaho has been really
• 48:20
  wonderful for not only me, but also my family
• 48:20
  and loved ones. Right, now I can hear it. OK.
• 48:22
  It's so gravelly. She does not sound like that.
• 48:24
  she does not sound like that just occasionally
• 48:26
  who who has accused her of this people on internet
• 48:28
  on the internet you know full of mean people
• 48:31
  yeah it is yeah because she has her own apothecary
• 48:33
  mary channel where she does herbalism and wild
• 48:36
  foraging and things like that and once in a while
• 48:37
  she'll get a comment you should really work on
• 48:39
  your vocal fry my poor wife is like i don't have
• 48:42
  vocal fry and then i'm like of course you don't
• 48:44
  honey i don't know what that means but if it's
• 48:46
  bad you don't have it wow you're beautiful husband
• 48:49
  just the way you are wow Okay, here, you know
• 48:52
  what? Here's something that won't annoy you.
• 48:53
  This is just a nice feel -good piece of fluff.
• 48:55
  How about that? Here is a great story of people
• 48:57
  making a difference. Silverwood theme park just
• 49:00
  announced that guests at the park helped raise
• 49:02
  more than $38 ,000. Wait, using by taking it
• 49:06
  forcefully from taxpayers? No. That money is
• 49:10
  going to food banks all across North Idaho and
• 49:13
  Spokane. Each ticket purchased during the September
• 49:16
  community appreciation weekends help support
• 49:18
  organizations. We're talking places like Second
• 49:21
  Harvest, Third Avenue Marketplace, Community
• 49:23
  Action Partnership, and many others. This is
• 49:27
  of course during a time when so many people are
• 49:29
  in need. Simple acts of kindness like this making
• 49:32
  a very big difference. Well done. to them and
• 49:36
  to all of you that went of course to Silver Wedding.
• 49:39
  How will people eat if not for food stamps? That's
• 49:43
  a great question. That's all I got on that one.
• 49:47
  Here would be a good place to take a quick breather
• 49:50
  and describe the value for value model. How will
• 49:53
  we eat without the government? The model of this
• 49:59
  show is value for value. That means that if you
• 50:02
  find this show to be valuable, send us some value
• 50:05
  back. We intend to run on value for value for
• 50:07
  as long as we can, which means no sponsors, no
• 50:11
  brands to promote, no products to hawk, just
• 50:14
  contributions from you who find this show valuable
• 50:16
  if you do. So that means sending back time, talent,
• 50:20
  and treasure. And that could mean boots on the
• 50:23
  ground reports. If you have inside tips, hot
• 50:26
  tips, you work here, you know that guy, we would
• 50:29
  love to hear any input that you have of stuff
• 50:31
  we've missed, stuff we've got wrong, stuff we've
• 50:33
  got right. Yeah, service the dish. any suggestions
• 50:36
  for topics to discuss or topics not to discuss.
• 50:39
  We may or may not discuss them. And that would
• 50:42
  mean show art if you want to send in a thumbnail
• 50:44
  for show cover art, which will change every show.
• 50:46
  Art not with public dollars. Just your own talent.
• 50:50
  Yeah. And speaking of dollars, the treasure portion
• 50:53
  is also extremely appreciated and, of course,
• 50:56
  vital so that we can eat. We also accept Schmeckles,
• 50:59
  Rubies or Bitcoin. then maybe actually Paul can
• 51:01
  use that to buy tea so that his wife can take
• 51:04
  a sip of it before she speaks and hopefully,
• 51:07
  you know. There are a bunch of links now on our
• 51:10
  website that is noidshow .com. And so now it's
• 51:14
  not just, there's, you know, a bunch of different
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  options. Like people had, we heard a suggestion
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  for Patreon and YouTube and a few other sources
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  to click through and send us some value back.
• 51:25
  So noidshow .com is where you can go to do all
• 51:28
  that. And we'll be happy to read your note on
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  the show. If you send something in so value for
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  value gonna get a Facebook page up and running
• 51:34
  in the near future things that we don't love
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  but we're gonna do it so we can be more accessible
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  everything is at no ID show that YouTube is at
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  no ID show and the emails Scott at no ID show
• 51:46
  Paul at no ID show and then no ID show and Thanks
• 51:50
  in advance So I have a couple more here, but
• 52:00
  if you have election stuff, let's do it I figured
• 52:02
  I would real quick. Just observations. Coeur
• 52:05
  d 'Alene and Hayden, they did not go the way
• 52:07
  of the conservative. Neither did Athel. Post
• 52:11
  Falls, bright light, which was really interesting.
• 52:13
  Well, if you're conservative, bright light. And
• 52:15
  a lot of the nonpartisan stuff as well. So I
• 52:17
  just think that's really interesting fodder for
• 52:18
  thought, food for thought, worth noting depending
• 52:21
  on where you live, where you want to live, where
• 52:24
  your future here is. It's been really fascinating
• 52:26
  to watch. What's interesting about the low voter
• 52:28
  turnout, 28 % across the county. In Coeur d 'Alene,
• 52:32
  I think it might have even been worse. There's
• 52:34
  like 75 ,000 people in Coeur d 'Alene now, less
• 52:37
  than 12 ,000 of them voted. So it's really interesting
• 52:41
  watching a town that prides itself on being,
• 52:44
  most of the people pride themselves on being
• 52:45
  suburban conservative Americans. You know, I
• 52:49
  like my guns and I go to church and I love my
• 52:51
  cops and I'm a God fearing conservative. Don't
• 52:55
  even bother to vote for city council and mayor
• 52:57
  and end up with hyper leftists in that city again
• 53:00
  and again and again. So it's fascinating to me.
• 53:02
  And I don't know why this is, but in Post Falls,
• 53:04
  for the most part, that hasn't been the case.
• 53:06
  Not sure why. I don't know if it's because people
• 53:08
  are more active in Post Falls or if there really
• 53:10
  is just that many more conservatives in Post
• 53:11
  Falls by percentage. But I think it's largely
• 53:14
  apathy in Coeur d 'Alene. People just don't know.
• 53:17
  And it's got to be tied to the urban nature of
• 53:20
  it. Coeur d 'Alene has just had a longer time
• 53:22
  to become urban and more urban is more blue.
• 53:25
  That's true. The way of the world. That's true.
• 53:27
  It's obviously a combination of factors. And
• 53:29
  yeah, I mean, it is weird, like, you know, going
• 53:32
  to the going to the polling place, you know,
• 53:35
  in a presidential election year. And it's just,
• 53:37
  you know, tons and tons of people. And then you
• 53:39
  go there on a cycle like this and there's nobody.
• 53:42
  You know, if anything is going to affect your
• 53:45
  day to day life, it just seems seems a little
• 53:47
  backwards. It does seem a little backwards. I
• 53:49
  think that's by design, though. That's why they
• 53:50
  have these elections in the off cycle, even if
• 53:52
  they linked them up with. And there's actually
• 53:53
  been a movement. in the state of Idaho to sync
• 53:56
  up all of these off cycle like super off cycle
• 53:59
  elections, sync them up with at the very least
• 54:01
  with midterms. And those proposals have failed
• 54:05
  thus far because people in power know that that's
• 54:09
  how the levies pass. That's how the bonds pass.
• 54:11
  That's how they get all of these things passed
• 54:12
  where you know spending more of your money. And
• 54:15
  it's typically people who lean to the left who
• 54:16
  are in charge. That's how they stay in charge.
• 54:18
  That's how they get all these levies and bonds
• 54:20
  passed as they do it in the off cycle years.
• 54:23
  So they've resisted any change to that. Their
• 54:25
  reasoning for it, in case you're curious, is
• 54:27
  voter fatigue. They're afraid that people will
• 54:30
  have too many things to vote for if they put
• 54:31
  it all in midterm or main cycle elections. I've
• 54:35
  also seen their reasoning for wanting to do the
• 54:37
  consolidation as we want to save money. And I
• 54:40
  agree with this, to move these off cycle elections
• 54:42
  into the on cycle elections and the midterms.
• 54:45
  It would actually save the taxpayer money because
• 54:47
  it does cost thousands and thousands of dollars.
• 54:49
  for the counties to put on these elections. And
• 54:51
  you're sure it wouldn't overwhelm your whittle
• 54:53
  head? Well, it's a really interesting. I think
• 54:56
  it's a tell. It's absolutely a tell when your
• 54:59
  elected leaders say you're too stupid to vote
• 55:03
  on more than a couple of things. So that's why
• 55:04
  we've got to have an election every year instead
• 55:06
  of on midterms and main cycles. It's always fun
• 55:09
  when their contempt for us leaks out unintentionally.
• 55:13
  When they say the quiet part out loud, it's great.
• 55:15
  But it doesn't get picked up on very often. So
• 55:17
  speaking of quiet part out loud, or I don't want
• 55:19
  to step on it though, like if there's more election
• 55:22
  thoughts. No, I think that's what I had. I just
• 55:24
  figured we'd traipse there for a second because
• 55:26
  it's just been it's interesting to watch North
• 55:28
  Idaho on this. This is another sort of more broad
• 55:34
  phenomenon, I guess, or a pattern. And it's one
• 55:37
  that I wonder if you are familiar with. And I
• 55:40
  have no idea if this is one of those things,
• 55:43
  but it sure seemed like it to me. Are you familiar
• 55:45
  with like the six week cycle? We're talking about
• 55:48
  my wife again. Gosh darn it, Scott. I can't wait
• 55:51
  until our wives sync up. I hope that they don't
• 55:56
  listen to this podcast. I'm kidding. We could
• 55:58
  actually use the PayPal contributions from them.
• 56:00
  Mary, if you're listening, I need money. So it's
• 56:06
  the notion of The FBI setting up their own sting
• 56:09
  operation. So when they when they thwart the
• 56:12
  latest terror plot and then it comes out that
• 56:14
  like it was them the whole time was being cooked
• 56:16
  by the FBI and they recruited some 19 year old
• 56:20
  kid with a bad mustache and they sort of con
• 56:22
  him into going along with it. And then they tackle
• 56:25
  him at the last second and go, look, we thwarted
• 56:27
  an attack. We're not even talking conspiracy
• 56:28
  theory. We're talking about things that happen
• 56:30
  every. other month. Yes, I know this is like
• 56:33
  I always love when the conspiracy they're on
• 56:35
  record. Yes, the conspirators like loudly and
• 56:38
  proudly announced what they're doing. And then
• 56:39
  you pointed out you get called a theorist. Yes,
• 56:41
  if it's a theory. Okay, but so what happened
• 56:43
  here locally? Oh, did it? Yes. So I wanted to
• 56:46
  first played that know about this. The original
• 56:49
  story, the original story that there was. The
• 56:51
  original story was from last year, but then he
• 56:54
  had a plea change just like last week, so that
• 56:56
  made me go. Well, let's introduce anyone who
• 56:59
  may be within the sound of voices that is not
• 57:00
  familiar with the six week cycle story tonight.
• 57:03
  The shocking arrest of an 18 year old in Coeur
• 57:06
  d 'Alene for allegedly. planning terrorist attacks
• 57:09
  in the name of ISIS. Alexander Mercurio pleaded
• 57:12
  not guilty to providing material support to ISIS
• 57:15
  in a federal courtroom today. He is now set to
• 57:17
  go to trial at the end of May. Alexander Mercurio
• 57:22
  was arrested over the weekend for allegedly planning
• 57:25
  to attack people at Coeur d 'Alene churches on
• 57:27
  behalf of the terrorist group ISIS. Messages
• 57:30
  uncovered by the FBI show Mercurio allegedly
• 57:33
  planned to use weapons, including firearms, knives,
• 57:36
  and a flame sword to kill as many people as possible.
• 57:39
  A flame sword? An indictment filed in this case
• 57:42
  says Mercurio is charged with attempting to provide
• 57:45
  - I looked it up. They should charge him with
• 57:47
  being a badass. A flame sword? I looked up what
• 57:51
  a flame sword is. How do you plead? I plead guilty,
• 57:53
  sir, of the most badass assassination attempt
• 57:56
  ever. Your honor, do you want to see the flame
• 57:58
  sword? An indictment filed in this case says
• 58:01
  Mercurio is charged with attempting to provide
• 58:04
  material support to a designated foreign terrorist
• 58:07
  organization. He pleaded not guilty to this and
• 58:10
  denied the criminal forfeiture allegation, which
• 58:13
  means he does not want the court to seize his
• 58:15
  property if convicted. I don't know who would.
• 58:18
  Yeah. No, no, that's OK. Leave the flame sword
• 58:21
  on the mount on the wall, if you don't mind.
• 58:23
  You can take everything else. Well, certainly
• 58:25
  it was a great surprise. Coeur d 'Alene Mayor
• 58:27
  Jim Hammond says the 18 year olds. So this is
• 58:30
  the previous mayor who, before he stepped down
• 58:32
  and Woody took over, they interviewed because,
• 58:36
  like I said, you know, the original story was
• 58:38
  from from last year, from twenty twenty four.
• 58:39
  Teen year olds alleged plans are not tolerated
• 58:42
  in the community. Which is there a community
• 58:44
  where they are tolerated? Dearborn, Michigan.
• 58:47
  15 year olds alleged plans are not tolerated
• 58:50
  in the community. I think that anybody living
• 58:53
  in North Idaho would be crazy to think that they
• 58:57
  could get any sympathy from anybody else regarding
• 59:01
  ISIS or any support for any kind of similar organization.
• 59:06
  Mayor Hammond is reassured though by the swift
• 59:08
  action law enforcement took before anyone got
• 59:11
  hurt. Thank God Woody wasn't mayor at the time.
• 59:14
  Because Woody would have been like, well. From
• 59:17
  where I'm sitting Can't we all just get along?
• 59:21
  You know Isis might have a point man back in
• 59:24
  the 70s flame swords were used for peace Before
• 59:27
  he could cause any harm and I do truly trust
• 59:30
  that they will do the same in terms of monitoring
• 59:34
  and being vigilant about any other dangers that
• 59:38
  we have within the community. Court documents
• 59:40
  say Mercurio is facing a maximum penalty of up
• 59:43
  to 20 years in prison. He will now remain in
• 59:46
  U .S. martial custody pending the trial for this
• 59:49
  case. It was that flame sword that did him in.
• 59:52
  I'm going to hammer that one. That is the best.
• 59:55
  The trial is currently scheduled for May 28th
• 59:57
  and at this point all proceedings will remain
• 1:00:00
  here in Coeur d 'Alene. Do you know how it, this
• 1:00:05
  is all news to me. I'm actually shocked. I don't
• 1:00:06
  know about this. How did it end? So, well, now
• 1:00:09
  he did, like I said, he had a plea change and
• 1:00:12
  this was from just like last week. The teenager
• 1:00:15
  accused of planning attacks on Coeur d 'Alene
• 1:00:17
  churches last year has changed his plea to guilty.
• 1:00:21
  Federal authorities arrested Alexander Mercurio
• 1:00:23
  in April of 2024 for allegedly planning to start
• 1:00:26
  fires inside a local church. Messages uncovered
• 1:00:29
  by the FBI show that Mercurio planned to use
• 1:00:32
  weapons, including firearms, knives, and a, quote,
• 1:00:35
  flame sword to kill as many people as possible.
• 1:00:37
  He is charged with trying to provide material
• 1:00:40
  support to a terrorist organization. A judge
• 1:00:43
  will sentence him early. next year. Are they
• 1:00:45
  just reading off? He took a plea deal. We know
• 1:00:47
  that for sure. They didn't tell us what the plea
• 1:00:49
  deal was, but I wonder if it involved keeping
• 1:00:52
  his flame sword. How much you want to bet the
• 1:00:56
  people that he was like, Oh, the FBI intercepted
• 1:00:58
  messages. How much you want to bet he was messaging
• 1:01:00
  with an FBI agent? I guarantee you it was a,
• 1:01:03
  he was talking to some fed boy for sure. Now
• 1:01:06
  this is what this is actually a really good high
• 1:01:07
  profile example of this Scott from a year prior
• 1:01:10
  to this, I think a group of guys got arrested.
• 1:01:14
  for allegedly planning to commit violence at
• 1:01:18
  gay days in Coeur d 'Alene a couple of a couple
• 1:01:20
  of years ago. So they were having to get whatever
• 1:01:23
  they call pride in the park pride in the park.
• 1:01:24
  Oh, in Coeur d 'Alene gay days, you know. Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  Dan Gouken, Dan Gouken's favorite Dan Gouken's
• 1:01:30
  favorite event. Come over for a gay time. A gay
• 1:01:34
  time. Yeah. Coeur d 'Alene is the place for a
• 1:01:36
  gay time. Well, so these dudes were like gay
• 1:01:40
  times for all not on my watch. And apparently
• 1:01:44
  loaded up in the back of a moving truck and then
• 1:01:46
  set up somewhere in Coeur d 'Alene nearby and
• 1:01:49
  we're gonna cause some trouble So but before
• 1:01:52
  they can cause any trouble the feds surround
• 1:01:54
  the truck pop it open and there's like, you know
• 1:01:56
  Eight of them in there. So it's not many eight
• 1:01:59
  of them in there and like three of them are fed
• 1:02:01
  boys Yeah, so that's how that stuff goes. And
• 1:02:03
  of course, you know that gives Coeur d 'Alene
• 1:02:05
  another feather in its cap where they're like
• 1:02:07
  we we don't tolerate this kind of hate and so
• 1:02:10
  they got prosecuted to the full extent of the
• 1:02:12
  law and got the book thrown at them and all the
• 1:02:14
  all the different stuff and it was on pretty
• 1:02:16
  flimsy a lot of flimsy things going on there
• 1:02:18
  a lot of it was sort of like j6 where you know
• 1:02:20
  one out of three people in the crowd is a fed
• 1:02:22
  boy and a lot of stuff wouldn't have happened
• 1:02:25
  if the fed boys didn't make it happen and you
• 1:02:27
  know good times yeah you can hear the crowd chanting
• 1:02:30
  fed fed because some guys like hey guys let's
• 1:02:32
  go in hey everybody let's go in the building
• 1:02:35
  you know it would be a great idea crime Okay
• 1:02:39
  here now just in case you think this is a little
• 1:02:42
  too conspiratorial this is well documented phenomenon
• 1:02:46
  in the six -week cycle a victory in court for
• 1:02:49
  three men convicted in a terrorism sting more
• 1:02:51
  than a decade ago police arrested the men last
• 1:02:54
  night as they were allegedly planting what they
• 1:02:56
  thought were real bombs outside a Jewish temple
• 1:02:58
  a federal judge ordering the release of onto
• 1:03:01
  Williams David Williams and Laguerre pain three
• 1:03:04
  of the men known as the new Burke for arrested
• 1:03:06
  for a plot to blow up synagogues in New York
• 1:03:09
  City and shoot down National Guard planes in
• 1:03:11
  upstate New York. In a scathing decision, U .S.
• 1:03:15
  District Judge Colleen McMahon accusing FBI agents
• 1:03:17
  of trying to arrest petty criminals by radicalizing
• 1:03:21
  the men to participate in a plot she called an
• 1:03:24
  FBI orchestrated conspiracy. Every step of the
• 1:03:27
  way was all the FBI. These guys couldn't. They
• 1:03:30
  had no driver's licenses. They couldn't find
• 1:03:33
  Google Maps of where these targets are that the
• 1:03:35
  FBI informant told them to use. I mean, they
• 1:03:38
  came up with not one single part of the spot.
• 1:03:40
  It was all the FBI that FBI informant Shahid
• 1:03:43
  Hussein, who made headlines again when a stretch
• 1:03:45
  limo operated by his company crashed in rural
• 1:03:48
  New York. killing 20 people. Hussein now serving
• 1:03:53
  a 5 to 15 year prison sentence for that crash.
• 1:03:57
  In the Newburgh case, the federal judge who granted
• 1:03:59
  the release also accusing Hussein of recruiting
• 1:04:02
  James Cromarty, who was believed to be the ringleader
• 1:04:05
  of the terror plot. As for the Williams's and
• 1:04:08
  Payne, their 25 year sentence is pulled back
• 1:04:11
  to 90 days, their attorney hoping for more compassionate
• 1:04:14
  releases in the future. still doing and has been
• 1:04:20
  doing a lot of these unfair sting cases where
• 1:04:23
  they prey on mentally ill young men who really
• 1:04:26
  are not interested in terrorism. We've reached
• 1:04:29
  out to the FBI and Department of Justice that
• 1:04:32
  have not heard back. Ellison Barber, NBC News.
• 1:04:35
  I mean, it's sort of like playing with cheat
• 1:04:37
  codes, preying on mentally ill young men, shooting
• 1:04:40
  fish in a barrel. That's tough. So did I hear
• 1:04:45
  that one of those guys crashed a stretch limo?
• 1:04:48
  With 20 people inside? Twenty people got killed.
• 1:04:53
  I'm not laughing at that. I'm laughing at the
• 1:04:55
  absurdity of that. So it wasn't it wasn't one
• 1:04:58
  of the four stooges. It was the informant that
• 1:05:02
  the FBI was using to lure these guys. That informant
• 1:05:05
  was a scumbag. And so he had some other incident
• 1:05:08
  that he was involved in that was not even related
• 1:05:10
  necessarily to this. He's just he's just a scumbag
• 1:05:13
  informant. That's a redundancy. You could just
• 1:05:15
  say informant. You're right. You'll do the scumbag
• 1:05:19
  math on that. It happens all the time. I mean,
• 1:05:22
  the dads are the type of guys that get involved
• 1:05:24
  in this stuff. And it's, I'm just saying that
• 1:05:27
  it's not, I have to wonder about Alexander Mercurio
• 1:05:30
  and the Coeur d 'Alene churches. It sounds like
• 1:05:32
  a six week cycle event to me. Well, up here,
• 1:05:35
  tying it back into panhandle stuff, we've seen
• 1:05:37
  it a couple of times up here. Do we know for
• 1:05:40
  100 %? Nah, but are the signs there? Yeah. And
• 1:05:43
  North Idaho, for all you who don't know this,
• 1:05:45
  most of you guys probably do already, since you're
• 1:05:47
  listening to us. has a pretty significant federal
• 1:05:50
  federal presence. It does. Yeah, there's a lot
• 1:05:54
  of activity up here. They're they are watching
• 1:05:56
  they are listening. And they're looking for things.
• 1:06:00
  So North Idaho is once again, we win the ribbon
• 1:06:03
  for being very unique for our size and our shape,
• 1:06:06
  so to speak, things that you wouldn't think are
• 1:06:07
  up here are definitely up here. So mind your
• 1:06:10
  manners. Also a part of that doesn't help. Well,
• 1:06:14
  depending on who you are help or hurt. that the
• 1:06:16
  more you know, Kootenay County Jailhouse is tied
• 1:06:18
  in with the feds. That's why it's a supermax
• 1:06:20
  facility. So when people think jail, they think
• 1:06:22
  something very quaint. But Kootenay County Jail
• 1:06:24
  is not quaint. It's a supermax facility because
• 1:06:27
  they handle all of the federal felony transfers.
• 1:06:32
  That's one of my faves. You got to teach me how
• 1:06:34
  to sound drop. I'm going to be lethal after the
• 1:06:37
  show. I will be more lethal than that guy with
• 1:06:39
  a flame sword if you just teach me how to sound
• 1:06:41
  drop. Speaking of lethal, here's the final one.
• 1:06:44
  Former Vice President Dick Cheney has died. He
• 1:06:47
  was 84 years old. Cheney was the 46th vice president
• 1:06:51
  serving along former President George W. Bush
• 1:06:54
  for two terms. His family says Cheney died because
• 1:06:57
  of complications of pneumonia and cardiac and
• 1:07:01
  vascular disease. Cheney actually visited Spokane
• 1:07:03
  in April of 2006. He attended a fun. for a GOP
• 1:07:08
  Senate candidate, and also held a rally for troops
• 1:07:10
  at Fairchild Air Force Base. Cheney then returned
• 1:07:13
  to the Inland Northwest for a visit to North
• 1:07:15
  Idaho later in 2006. He stopped at the Coeur
• 1:07:18
  d 'Alene Airport where he rallied with supporters
• 1:07:20
  for about 30 minutes ahead of election day. In
• 1:07:23
  2006? Why do we care? Cheney came through Spokane
• 1:07:27
  one time and did a thing 20 years ago, and now
• 1:07:30
  he's dead. Taxation and Staff, I'm Paul Panducci.
• 1:07:34
  Oh my gosh. All right. So that's pretty much
• 1:07:37
  what I got for today. Those are some random clips,
• 1:07:41
  Scott. I'm impressed. I had fun. It's a it's
• 1:07:43
  a lightning round. Yeah. You know, that's the
• 1:07:45
  thing is I don't I you know, while I like certain,
• 1:07:48
  you know, specific topics, this is deconstruction
• 1:07:50
  of mainstream media and mainstream media covers
• 1:07:52
  all sorts of random topics. So I don't necessarily
• 1:07:55
  intend to just pick one topic and stick to that
• 1:07:58
  topic for every show. I know now I see your,
• 1:08:01
  you know, Paul's Paul's head is spinning around
• 1:08:03
  like the exorcist. I know you don't maybe necessarily
• 1:08:06
  appreciate that. Think about vocal fry. This
• 1:08:10
  is just my That's how I feel. No, no, this is
• 1:08:13
  fun. You see, can't I mean candid moments. That's
• 1:08:16
  what we're here for. It's a good time. I'm new
• 1:08:18
  here, man. I'm not a podcaster. I will never
• 1:08:20
  be a podcaster even though I'm podcasting right
• 1:08:23
  now. This is Scott's jam, but I'm happy to be
• 1:08:26
  a part of it. This is what you look for. You
• 1:08:27
  look for just like Debbie Lofman. You know, this
• 1:08:29
  podcast is going to chew you up and spit you
• 1:08:30
  out. Well, you've already given away my job to
• 1:08:33
  Jarvis, the talking AI guy. We didn't even use
• 1:08:36
  him today. Thank God. I got my job back, I guess,
• 1:08:38
  for the for the day. Yeah. Well, you're you're
• 1:08:40
  no good, Chauncey. Yeah. You had nothing to contribute.
• 1:08:42
  Chauncey. That's Chauncey with your with your
• 1:08:45
  gay accent as coined by our new city councilman.
• 1:08:49
  Oh, yeah. Because, yeah, he obviously thought
• 1:08:51
  that Chauncey sounded gay. Really gay. Yeah,
• 1:08:55
  no, I dig it. It's like an awkward marriage this
• 1:08:56
  podcast so far. I'm having a good time. You're
• 1:08:59
  gonna you're gonna go all over the place. I'm
• 1:09:00
  gonna rein you in for more uncomfortable nuptials.
• 1:09:04
  Go to no ID show .com and please support us value
• 1:09:08
  for value. And you know, if you if you'd like
• 1:09:12
  what you're hearing, another great thing you
• 1:09:14
  can do is by is telling a friend. Yeah, podcast
• 1:09:17
  spread through word of mouth because I feel speaking
• 1:09:20
  of awkward. I feel really awkward trying to whore
• 1:09:24
  ourselves out on this. It's weird. I don't like
• 1:09:26
  it. I don't like spamming people like, hey, will
• 1:09:28
  you check out my podcast instead? Will you guys
• 1:09:32
  whore it out for us? Exactly. I'd appreciate
• 1:09:34
  that. We're looking for third party prostitution
• 1:09:36
  here. Yes. Yeah. We, you know, degree of separation
• 1:09:39
  so they can't steal my flame sword when they
• 1:09:41
  prosecute me. flame sword. I literally looked
• 1:09:45
  it up. I like Google imaged it. I was like, what
• 1:09:47
  is that? I asked Chachi, I asked Chauncey and
• 1:09:50
  he was like, do you mean from a video game? And
• 1:09:52
  I'm like, I know. I think this is real life.
• 1:09:54
  I'm not sure. I mean, like, I know what a chainsaw
• 1:09:57
  sword is. Like we all played. We all played Gears
• 1:09:59
  of War chainsaw sword bayonet. Like that's bad
• 1:10:01
  ass flame sword. That's a whole new ballgame.
• 1:10:03
  Is there just a dart board full of terms that
• 1:10:05
  you like worry that just sounded like a bunch
• 1:10:07
  of hodgepodge of various weaponry all It's jammed
• 1:10:11
  into one phrase. Never played Gears of War. I
• 1:10:14
  was a Duke Nukem guy, older than you. That's
• 1:10:16
  old, old school. I can appreciate that too. Things
• 1:10:20
  I did not have on my bingo card today, Scott.
• 1:10:22
  Well done. Duke Nukem would actually be a great
• 1:10:25
  soundboard. Yes, it would. Are you familiar with
• 1:10:27
  some of those phrases? A couple of them, yeah.
• 1:10:29
  Hail to the king, baby. Like that stuff. OK,
• 1:10:33
  good times. Thanks for checking it out. Thanks
• 1:10:34
  for checking us out here. We'll be back with
• 1:10:36
  episode number four very soon. And until then.
• 1:10:40
  Taxation is theft. I'm Paul. It's time to kick
• 1:10:44
  ass and chew bubble gum and I am all out of gum.