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George Halas and the Legacy of the 1918 Naval Station Football Team · Sports History Network

0:57
As
0:57
war
0:57
raged
0:58
In
0:58
Europe
0:58
in
0:59
1917,
1:00
bases
1:01
around
1:01
the
1:01
United
1:01
States
1:02
started
1:02
training
1:02
civilians
1:03
to
1:04
become
1:04
part
1:04
of
1:05
the
1:05
armed
1:05
services
1:06
in
1:06
anticipation
1:07
of
1:08
going
1:08
to
1:08
war.
1:08
And
1:09
during
1:09
some
1:09
of
1:09
these
1:09
camps,
1:10
some
1:10
football
1:11
teams
1:11
sprouted
1:12
up.
1:12
We
1:12
have
1:12
our
1:12
guest
1:13
today,
1:13
Dan
1:13
Charesta.
1:14
Tell
1:14
us
1:14
all
1:14
about
1:14
one
1:15
in
1:15
the
1:15
Great
1:15
Lakes
1:16
region
1:16
coming
1:16
up
1:17
in
1:17
just
1:17
a
1:17
moment.
1:19
And
1:20
we're
1:20
going
1:20
to
1:20
have
1:20
a
1:20
great
1:21
discussion
1:21
tonight
1:22
with
1:22
one
1:22
team
1:22
in
1:23
particular
1:24
with
1:24
our
1:24
guest,
1:25
Dan
1:25
Charist.
1:26
Dan,
1:26
welcome
1:27
to
1:27
the
1:27
Pig
1:27
Pen,
1:27
Darren.
1:28
Hey,
1:28
how's
1:29
it
1:29
going?
1:29
I'm
1:29
happy
1:30
to
1:30
be
1:30
here,
1:30
and
1:30
I'm
1:30
happy
1:31
to
1:31
talk
1:31
about
1:32
one
1:32
of
1:33
the
1:33
teams.
1:33
I
1:33
mean,
1:34
I'm
1:34
sure
1:34
you've
1:34
covered
1:35
it
1:35
on
1:35
the
1:35
Pigskin
1:35
Dispatch
1:36
a
1:36
little
1:36
bit.
1:37
I
1:37
actually
1:37
use
1:38
it
1:38
as
1:38
a
1:38
source
1:39
on
1:39
this
1:39
project
1:39
that
1:40
I
1:40
just
1:40
got
1:40
a
1:40
hand
1:40
on.
1:41
But,
1:42
yeah,
1:42
the
1:43
1918
1:43
Naval
1:44
Station
1:44
Great
1:44
Lakes
1:45
Blue
1:45
Jackets
1:45
football
1:45
team.
1:46
Excited
1:46
to
1:46
talk
1:46
about
1:46
them.
1:47
Yeah,
1:47
we
1:48
have
1:48
never
1:48
done
1:48
a
1:49
podcast
1:49
that's
1:49
really
1:50
directed
1:50
at
1:50
them.
1:51
We
1:51
had
1:52
a
1:52
few
1:52
years
1:52
ago,
1:52
we
1:52
did
1:52
a
1:53
spotlight
1:53
on
1:53
the
1:53
100th
1:54
anniversary
1:54
of
1:54
the
1:54
Rose
1:55
Bowl.
1:55
So
1:55
we
1:55
went
1:55
through
1:55
all
1:55
the
1:55
Rose
1:56
bowl
1:56
games.
1:56
Of
1:56
course,
1:57
they
1:57
had
1:57
that
1:57
very
1:57
famous
1:58
Rose
1:58
bowl
1:58
game
1:59
with
1:59
some
1:59
very
1:59
famous
2:00
people
2:00
in
2:00
it.
2:00
So
2:01
I
2:01
know
2:01
that's
2:01
part
2:01
of
2:02
your
2:02
story,
2:02
too.
2:03
So
2:04
just
2:04
bits
2:04
and
2:04
pieces
2:04
we've
2:05
talked
2:05
about.
2:05
But
2:06
why
2:06
don't
2:06
you
2:06
tell
2:07
us
2:07
a
2:07
little
2:07
bit
2:07
about
2:09
yourself
2:09
first.
2:10
Tell
2:10
us
2:10
about
2:10
your
2:10
fandom
2:11
and
2:11
how
2:11
you
2:12
got
2:12
excited
2:12
enough
2:13
to
2:13
do
2:14
a
2:14
series
2:15
on
2:17
football
2:17
history.
2:18
Yeah,
2:19
so
2:19
I
2:19
grew
2:20
up
2:20
in
2:20
Massachusetts.
2:21
Seacong,
2:22
Massachusetts.
2:23
Shout
2:23
out.
2:25
And
2:26
so
2:26
I
2:26
was
2:27
growing
2:27
up
2:27
there.
2:28
One
2:28
of
2:29
my
2:29
first
2:29
football
2:29
memories
2:30
was
2:30
actually
2:30
the
2:31
Patriots
2:31
made
2:31
Super
2:32
Bowl
2:32
31,
2:33
which
2:33
was
2:34
Bludsoe
2:35
versus
2:35
Favre,
2:36
if
2:36
you
2:36
remember
2:36
that
2:37
one.
2:37
Yeah,
2:38
that
2:38
was
2:38
when
2:38
I
2:38
was
2:38
in
2:39
first
2:39
grade.
2:39
So
2:40
I
2:40
kind
2:40
of
2:40
like
2:41
got,
2:42
you
2:42
know,
2:42
suckered
2:42
into
2:43
football
2:43
fandom
2:44
courtesy
2:45
of
2:45
that
2:45
Patriots
2:45
team.
2:46
Bludsoe,
2:47
Curtis
2:47
Martin,
2:48
Bill
2:48
Parcells,
2:49
just
2:49
some
2:50
of
2:50
the.
2:50
The
2:50
big
2:50
names
2:51
on
2:51
that
2:51
squad.
2:52
And
2:52
then
2:52
from
2:52
there,
2:53
Yeah,
2:53
I
2:53
mean,
2:53
I
2:54
was
2:54
fortunate
2:54
enough
2:54
to
2:54
grow
2:55
up
2:55
in
2:55
an
2:56
era
2:56
of
2:57
Boston
2:57
sports
2:58
where,
2:58
you
2:59
know,
2:59
they
2:59
just
2:59
had
3:00
a
3:00
crazy
3:01
run.
3:01
I
3:01
mean,
3:01
I'm
3:01
a
3:01
fan
3:02
of
3:02
the
3:02
Patriots
3:03
first
3:03
and
3:03
foremost,
3:04
and
3:04
then
3:04
the
3:04
Red
3:05
Sox
3:05
and
3:06
also
3:06
Celtics
3:07
and
3:07
Bruins.
3:07
So
3:08
to
3:08
have
3:08
that
3:08
growing
3:08
up.
3:10
And
3:10
I
3:10
still,
3:10
I
3:11
don't
3:11
live
3:11
in
3:11
Massachusetts
3:12
anymore,
3:12
but
3:13
I
3:13
still
3:14
follow
3:14
the
3:14
Patriots.
3:15
Watch
3:15
them
3:15
all
3:15
the
3:15
time.
3:16
Watch
3:16
them
3:16
every
3:16
week.
3:16
Watched
3:17
them
3:17
when
3:17
I
3:17
was
3:17
overseas.
3:18
The
3:19
Red
3:19
Sox,
3:19
I
3:19
follow
3:20
a
3:20
bit,
3:20
too.
3:20
And
3:20
then
3:20
if
3:21
the
3:21
Celtics
3:21
or
3:21
the
3:21
Bruins
3:22
were
3:22
to
3:22
make
3:22
the
3:22
Finals,
3:23
I
3:23
would
3:23
make
3:23
sure
3:24
to
3:24
catch
3:24
that
3:25
as
3:25
well.
3:25
So
3:26
just
3:26
a
3:27
big
3:27
sports
3:28
fan
3:28
in
3:28
general.
3:29
And,
3:30
yeah,
3:30
so
3:31
it
3:31
kind
3:31
of
3:31
led
3:31
to
3:32
my
3:32
professional
3:33
life
3:33
doing
3:33
a
3:34
little
3:34
bit
3:34
of
3:34
sports
3:34
coverage
3:35
there.
3:35
And
3:36
also
3:37
was
3:37
kind
3:38
of
3:38
the
3:38
inspiration
3:38
for
3:39
this
3:39
project
3:39
was
3:39
just
3:40
my
3:40
life
3:41
in
3:41
general,
3:41
but
3:41
life
3:42
as
3:42
a
3:42
sports
3:42
fan.
3:43
Okay,
3:44
so
3:44
the.
3:46
The
3:46
naval
3:46
station.
3:47
The
3:47
Great
3:47
Lakes
3:47
Naval
3:48
Station,
3:48
of
3:48
course,
3:48
is
3:49
closer
3:49
over
3:49
to
3:50
my
3:50
neck
3:50
of
3:50
the
3:50
woods
3:50
in
3:50
the
3:51
Great
3:51
Lakes,
3:51
you
3:51
know,
3:52
nowhere
3:52
near
3:52
New
3:53
England.
3:53
How
3:54
did
3:54
you
3:54
get
3:54
connected
3:55
with
3:56
wanting
3:56
to
3:56
talk
3:56
about
3:57
this
3:57
great
3:57
team
3:58
from
3:58
history?
3:59
Yeah,
3:59
it's
4:00
really
4:01
something
4:02
that
4:02
I
4:02
think
4:03
directly.
4:04
I
4:04
feel
4:04
like
4:04
it's
4:05
directly
4:05
part
4:05
of
4:05
me
4:06
in
4:06
a
4:06
way.
4:08
So
4:08
I
4:09
went
4:09
from
4:10
Massachusetts.
4:10
I
4:11
graduated
4:11
from
4:11
Rhode
4:12
island
4:12
College
4:12
in
4:12
2013,
4:13
and
4:13
then
4:14
2014,
4:14
I
4:15
was
4:15
enlisted
4:16
in
4:16
the
4:16
Navy.
4:17
And
4:17
basic
4:17
training
4:18
for
4:18
the
4:18
Navy
4:18
is
4:18
in
4:19
Great
4:19
Lakes.
4:19
And
4:19
then
4:20
depending
4:20
on
4:20
your
4:21
job,
4:22
which
4:22
we
4:22
call
4:22
rates,
4:23
I
4:23
know
4:24
other
4:24
branches
4:24
will
4:25
call
4:25
it
4:25
an
4:25
mos,
4:26
but
4:26
your
4:27
rate,
4:27
some
4:27
of
4:28
those
4:28
job
4:28
trainings
4:29
are
4:29
actually
4:30
what
4:30
we
4:31
would
4:31
say,
4:31
like
4:31
across
4:31
the
4:32
street
4:32
would
4:33
be
4:33
the
4:33
term,
4:33
which
4:34
means
4:34
it's
4:34
at
4:34
the
4:34
base
4:34
that's
4:35
basically
4:35
across
4:35
the
4:36
street
4:36
from
4:37
where
4:37
you
4:37
go
4:37
to
4:37
basic
4:38
training.
4:38
So
4:39
I
4:39
was
4:39
at
4:39
basic,
4:40
of
4:40
course,
4:40
for
4:40
the
4:41
normal
4:41
allotted
4:41
time,
4:42
which
4:42
at
4:42
the
4:42
time
4:42
was
4:42
about
4:43
nine
4:43
weeks.
4:43
And
4:43
then
4:45
I
4:45
was
4:45
an
4:45
electrician
4:46
for
4:46
three
4:47
and
4:47
a
4:47
half
4:47
years
4:47
in
4:47
the
4:47
Navy.
4:48
And
4:48
then
4:48
I
4:49
transitioned
4:49
to
4:49
a
4:50
job
4:50
called
4:50
mc,
4:51
which
4:51
is
4:51
mass
4:52
communication
4:52
specialist,
4:53
which
4:53
is
4:53
basically
4:54
a
4:54
journalist,
4:54
photographer,
4:56
videographer,
4:56
graphic
4:57
design,
4:57
all
4:57
rolled
4:57
into
4:58
one.
4:58
But
4:58
for
4:58
three
4:59
and
4:59
a
4:59
half
4:59
years,
4:59
I
4:59
was
4:59
an
4:59
electrician.
5:00
And
5:00
my
5:01
schooling
5:01
was
5:02
at
5:02
Great
5:03
Lakes.
5:04
So
5:04
I
5:04
was
5:05
actually
5:05
there
5:05
from,
5:06
not
5:07
counting
5:07
basic
5:07
training,
5:08
November
5:08
2014
5:09
to
5:10
November
5:11
2015.
5:12
So
5:12
I
5:13
stayed
5:13
at
5:13
Great
5:13
Lakes
5:14
for
5:14
a
5:14
year,
5:14
experienced
5:15
crazy
5:16
winter,
5:16
saw
5:16
the
5:17
Patriots
5:17
win
5:17
the
5:17
super
5:17
bowl
5:18
against
5:18
the
5:18
Seahawks,
5:19
snowed
5:20
in
5:20
at
5:20
Great
5:20
Lakes.
5:21
And
5:21
then,
5:22
yeah,
5:22
from
5:23
then
5:23
on,
5:23
I
5:23
was
5:23
able
5:24
to
5:24
go
5:24
to
5:24
some
5:24
other
5:24
cool
5:25
places
5:25
with
5:26
the
5:26
military.
5:26
I
5:26
was
5:26
in
5:27
Japan
5:27
on
5:27
a
5:27
ship,
5:28
attached
5:29
to
5:29
a
5:29
ship,
5:29
which
5:29
ended
5:30
up
5:30
switching
5:31
to
5:31
San
5:31
Diego.
5:32
So
5:32
I
5:32
was
5:32
living
5:32
there
5:32
for
5:32
a
5:33
bit,
5:33
and
5:33
then
5:33
I
5:33
spent
5:34
four
5:34
years
5:35
in
5:35
beautiful
5:36
Naples,
5:36
Italy,
5:36
at
5:37
AFN
5:37
Naples.
5:38
And
5:38
I'm
5:39
also
5:39
a
5:39
huge
5:39
Napoli
5:40
soccer
5:41
fan
5:41
now.
5:41
So
5:41
it's
5:42
like
5:42
Patriots,
5:43
Napoli
5:44
are
5:44
kind
5:44
of
5:44
like
5:45
1a
5:45
and
5:45
1b
5:46
for
5:46
my
5:46
teams
5:47
that.
5:47
That
5:48
I
5:48
follow.
5:48
So,
5:49
yeah.
5:50
And
5:50
while
5:50
I
5:50
was
5:50
in
5:50
Naples,
5:51
I
5:52
enrolled
5:52
at
5:53
the
5:53
University
5:53
of
5:53
Alabama
5:54
Online,
5:54
did
5:55
a
5:55
journalism
5:55
and
5:55
media
5:56
studies
5:56
master's
5:57
program.
5:57
And
5:58
then
5:58
for
5:58
my
5:58
thesis
5:59
project
6:00
is
6:00
where
6:01
this
6:01
project
6:01
took
6:02
off.
6:03
So
6:03
Jackie's
6:04
the
6:04
Story,
6:05
George
6:05
hallis
6:06
and
6:07
the
6:07
1918
6:08
naval
6:08
station,
6:08
great
6:08
Lakes
6:09
Blue
6:09
Jackets
6:10
football
6:10
team.
6:10
So
6:10
it
6:11
kind
6:11
of
6:11
tied
6:11
together
6:12
that
6:12
I
6:12
was
6:13
there
6:13
and
6:14
I
6:14
had
6:14
the
6:14
opportunity
6:14
to
6:14
make
6:15
this
6:15
project
6:15
and
6:17
Here
6:17
we
6:17
are
6:17
now,
6:17
you
6:18
know,
6:18
I'm
6:18
talking
6:19
to
6:19
you,
6:19
Darren,
6:19
about
6:19
it
6:20
and
6:21
you
6:21
even
6:21
featured
6:22
in
6:22
the,
6:22
in
6:22
the
6:22
series.
6:23
So
6:23
I'm
6:23
sure
6:23
we'll
6:23
get
6:23
into
6:24
that
6:24
as
6:24
well.
6:25
Yeah.
6:25
Well,
6:26
first
6:26
of
6:26
all,
6:26
you
6:26
know,
6:27
thank
6:27
you
6:27
for
6:27
your
6:27
service
6:28
and
6:28
you
6:28
know,
6:29
what
6:29
a
6:30
rich
6:31
history
6:31
and
6:31
background
6:32
of
6:32
education
6:33
you've
6:33
gotten,
6:34
you
6:34
know,
6:34
traveling
6:35
the
6:35
world
6:36
and
6:36
got
6:36
just
6:36
so
6:37
many
6:37
football
6:37
connections
6:38
from,
6:38
you
6:38
know,
6:39
your
6:39
Patriots
6:39
to
6:40
the
6:40
Blue
6:40
Jackets
6:40
to
6:41
the
6:41
Crimson
6:41
Tide,
6:41
all
6:42
in
6:42
one
6:42
thing,
6:42
plus
6:43
a
6:43
little
6:43
soccer
6:43
thrown
6:44
in
6:44
there
6:44
too.
6:45
So.
6:46
Yes,
6:46
very,
6:46
very
6:47
cool.
6:47
So
6:47
in
6:47
your
6:48
young
6:48
life,
6:48
you've
6:48
got
6:49
gone
6:49
through
6:49
a
6:49
lot,
6:49
so.
6:50
But
6:50
we
6:50
appreciate
6:51
your
6:51
service
6:51
and
6:52
all
6:52
you
6:52
and
6:52
your,
6:53
your
6:53
brethren
6:53
and
6:54
sisters
6:54
in
6:54
the
6:55
military
6:55
that
6:55
are
6:55
keeping
6:56
us
6:56
free.
6:56
Of
6:56
course.
6:57
Yeah,
6:57
thanks
6:58
for
6:58
the
6:58
support.
6:59
I
6:59
got
6:59
super
6:59
lucky
7:00
with
7:00
all
7:00
these
7:00
duty
7:01
stations.
7:01
I'm
7:01
currently
7:02
off
7:02
active
7:03
duty.
7:03
I'm
7:03
currently
7:04
still
7:04
in
7:04
the
7:04
reserve.
7:05
But
7:05
yeah,
7:06
I
7:06
was
7:06
able
7:06
to
7:06
catch
7:07
actually
7:07
a
7:07
lot
7:07
of
7:07
sports
7:08
in
7:08
a
7:08
lot
7:08
of
7:08
different
7:08
countries.
7:09
Unfortunately,
7:10
no
7:10
American
7:10
football,
7:11
but
7:12
yeah,
7:12
that's.
7:13
Maybe
7:13
that'll
7:14
spread
7:14
to
7:14
some
7:14
of
7:14
these
7:15
countries
7:15
later
7:15
on
7:16
beyond
7:17
just
7:17
one
7:18
or
7:18
two
7:18
or
7:18
three
7:19
NFL
7:19
games
7:19
a
7:20
season.
7:20
Yeah,
7:21
it's,
7:22
it's
7:22
really
7:22
going
7:22
international.
7:23
We
7:23
just
7:23
talked
7:24
to
7:24
a
7:24
guy
7:24
the
7:24
other
7:25
day.
7:25
That's
7:26
Estonia.
7:26
They
7:27
have
7:27
American
7:27
football
7:28
going
7:28
on
7:28
in
7:28
Russia.
7:29
They're,
7:29
they're
7:29
playing
7:30
American
7:30
football.
7:30
All
7:31
right.
7:31
It's
7:31
spread
7:32
all
7:32
over
7:32
the
7:32
place.
7:32
So
7:32
we're,
7:33
we're
7:33
excited
7:33
about
7:34
that.
7:34
Okay,
7:35
so.
7:35
So
7:35
let's
7:36
go
7:36
back.
7:36
So
7:36
first
7:37
of
7:37
all,
7:37
you
7:37
know,
7:37
I'm
7:37
kind
7:38
of
7:38
intrigued
7:39
that
7:39
the
7:39
Great
7:39
Lakes
7:40
Naval
7:40
Station
7:41
is
7:41
still
7:42
going
7:42
strong
7:43
and
7:43
training
7:44
young
7:45
naval
7:46
persons
7:47
to
7:48
serve
7:48
in
7:48
the
7:48
Navy,
7:49
which.
7:49
God,
7:49
that's
7:50
100
7:50
some
7:50
years
7:51
plus.
7:52
Yeah.
7:53
So
7:53
during
7:54
my
7:54
research,
7:55
I
7:55
was
7:55
actually
7:56
able
7:57
to
7:58
talk
7:58
to
7:58
Timothy
7:59
Brown,
7:59
who
7:59
is
7:59
an
8:00
author.
8:00
He
8:00
wrote
8:01
a
8:01
book
8:01
called
8:01
Fields
8:02
of
8:02
Friendly
8:02
Strife.
8:02
It
8:02
was
8:03
a
8:03
great
8:03
resource
8:03
for
8:04
this.
8:04
And
8:05
honestly,
8:05
I
8:05
didn't
8:05
even
8:06
know
8:06
the
8:06
origins
8:07
of
8:07
Great
8:07
Lakes
8:08
when
8:08
I
8:09
started
8:09
taking
8:10
on
8:10
this
8:10
project.
8:11
And
8:11
he,
8:12
he
8:12
kind
8:12
of,
8:13
you
8:13
know,
8:13
gave
8:13
me
8:13
the
8:13
rundown.
8:14
It's
8:14
in
8:14
the
8:14
series,
8:15
if
8:15
you
8:15
listen
8:15
to
8:15
it,
8:16
the
8:16
three
8:16
part,
8:17
about
8:17
30
8:17
minute
8:18
per
8:18
episode
8:19
look
8:19
at
8:19
the
8:20
blue
8:20
jackets.
8:20
But
8:21
back
8:21
in,
8:22
I
8:22
think
8:22
it
8:22
was
8:22
1911,
8:23
the
8:23
base
8:24
kicked
8:24
off
8:25
because
8:26
there's
8:26
so
8:26
many
8:27
service
8:27
members
8:28
joining
8:28
from
8:28
the
8:28
Midwest.
8:30
So
8:30
they
8:30
wanted
8:31
kind
8:31
of
8:31
a
8:31
more
8:32
century
8:32
located
8:33
base.
8:33
And
8:33
it's
8:33
right
8:34
on,
8:34
I
8:34
mean,
8:34
it's
8:34
called
8:35
Naval
8:35
Station
8:35
Great
8:35
Lakes.
8:36
It's
8:36
right
8:36
on
8:36
Lake
8:36
Michigan.
8:37
Not
8:38
that
8:38
there's
8:38
any.
8:38
At
8:39
least
8:39
when
8:39
I
8:39
was
8:39
there.
8:39
There's
8:40
no
8:40
makeshift
8:41
ships
8:41
or
8:42
anything
8:42
there.
8:42
It's
8:42
just
8:42
where
8:43
the
8:43
base
8:43
is
8:43
at
8:43
but
8:44
so
8:44
the
8:45
origin
8:45
of
8:45
the
8:45
base
8:45
was
8:46
there.
8:46
And
8:46
then
8:47
they
8:47
got
8:48
Captain
8:48
William
8:49
Moffett,
8:49
who
8:50
plays
8:50
a
8:50
pretty
8:50
central
8:51
role
8:51
in
8:51
the
8:51
story
8:51
of
8:51
this
8:52
team.
8:52
He
8:52
was
8:52
the
8:53
captain
8:53
of
8:53
the
8:53
base
8:54
and
8:54
he
8:55
took
8:55
it
8:55
upon
8:56
himself
8:56
to
8:56
really
8:56
grow
8:57
the
8:57
base
8:57
through
8:58
sports
8:59
once
8:59
World
8:59
War
9:00
I
9:00
came
9:00
around.
9:01
And
9:01
it
9:01
really
9:02
gave
9:02
a
9:02
name
9:03
to
9:03
the
9:03
base.
9:04
Not
9:04
just
9:04
the
9:04
football
9:05
team.
9:05
That's
9:06
the
9:06
one
9:06
that
9:06
we're
9:06
talking
9:07
about
9:07
today
9:07
and
9:07
the
9:07
one
9:07
that
9:08
had
9:08
the
9:08
most
9:08
prominence.
9:08
But
9:09
they
9:09
had
9:10
teams
9:10
in
9:10
baseball
9:11
and
9:11
soccer.
9:13
I
9:13
know,
9:14
I
9:15
think
9:15
there
9:15
might
9:15
have
9:15
been
9:15
a
9:16
ski
9:16
team.
9:16
Maybe
9:17
I'm
9:17
talking.
9:18
Maybe
9:18
I'm
9:18
thinking
9:18
of
9:18
a
9:18
different
9:19
base.
9:19
But
9:19
they
9:20
had
9:20
plenty
9:20
of
9:20
teams
9:20
to
9:20
go
9:21
around
9:21
and
9:21
it
9:21
was
9:21
extensively
9:22
covered.
9:22
Not
9:22
just
9:23
the
9:23
football
9:23
team,
9:23
but
9:24
another
9:24
source
9:25
that
9:25
I
9:25
used
9:25
was
9:25
the
9:25
Great
9:26
Lakes
9:26
Bulletin
9:26
from
9:27
the
9:27
day,
9:27
which
9:27
is
9:28
no
9:28
longer
9:28
there.
9:28
But
9:29
I
9:29
was
9:30
able
9:30
to
9:30
access
9:30
a
9:31
lot
9:31
of
9:31
the
9:31
archival
9:32
stories
9:32
from
9:33
there.
9:34
And
9:35
yeah,
9:36
not
9:36
just
9:36
the
9:36
football
9:36
team
9:37
was
9:39
there
9:39
in
9:39
the
9:39
newspaper,
9:40
but
9:40
all
9:40
the
9:40
other
9:40
teams
9:41
and
9:41
they
9:41
were
9:42
featured
9:42
prominently
9:43
throughout
9:43
the
9:43
base.
9:44
So
9:44
that's
9:45
how
9:45
they
9:45
kicked
9:45
off.
9:46
And
9:46
then,
9:47
yeah,
9:47
service
9:47
football
9:48
took
9:48
over
9:48
during
9:48
World
9:49
War
9:49
I.
9:49
Many
9:50
bases,
9:50
many
9:52
forts,
9:53
all
9:53
sorts
9:53
of,
9:54
you
9:54
know,
9:55
places
9:56
like
9:56
that
9:56
that
9:57
had,
9:57
you
9:57
know,
9:58
military
9:58
personnel
9:58
there.
9:59
It
10:00
was
10:00
a
10:00
great
10:00
way
10:00
for
10:01
them
10:01
to
10:01
get
10:02
out
10:02
and
10:03
show
10:03
some
10:03
base
10:03
pride.
10:04
And
10:04
service
10:05
football,
10:05
the.
10:05
The
10:06
real
10:06
key
10:06
to
10:06
this
10:07
story
10:07
is
10:08
how
10:08
it
10:08
launched
10:09
the
10:09
NFL,
10:09
helped
10:10
launch
10:10
the
10:10
NFL
10:10
with
10:11
service
10:11
football.
10:11
And
10:12
Great
10:12
Lakes
10:12
was
10:13
definitely
10:13
the
10:13
most
10:14
well
10:14
known
10:15
of
10:15
these
10:16
teams.
10:16
And
10:17
service
10:17
football
10:17
even
10:18
came
10:18
back
10:18
around
10:18
during
10:19
World
10:19
War
10:19
II.
10:21
Interesting.
10:21
So
10:21
I
10:22
take
10:22
it
10:22
probably
10:23
the
10:23
height
10:23
of
10:24
population
10:25
of
10:26
the
10:26
Great
10:26
Lakes
10:27
Naval
10:27
Station
10:28
was
10:28
probably
10:29
during
10:29
both
10:29
world
10:29
wars.
10:30
Is
10:30
that,
10:30
would
10:30
that
10:30
be
10:31
true?
10:31
I
10:31
believe
10:32
my
10:33
guess
10:33
and
10:33
my
10:33
research,
10:34
I
10:34
think
10:34
it
10:35
was
10:36
50,000
10:37
sailors
10:38
were
10:38
there,
10:38
which
10:38
is,
10:39
I
10:40
mean,
10:40
crazy.
10:40
Think
10:40
of
10:40
a
10:41
city
10:41
nearby
10:41
you
10:41
that
10:42
has
10:42
50,000
10:42
people.
10:43
And
10:43
to
10:43
imagine
10:43
that
10:44
on
10:44
a
10:44
base
10:45
is
10:45
pretty.
10:45
I
10:46
can
10:46
tell
10:46
you
10:46
the
10:46
city
10:46
I
10:46
live
10:47
in
10:47
is
10:47
a
10:47
hundred
10:47
thousand.
10:48
So
10:48
that's
10:48
half
10:48
the
10:48
population.
10:49
It'll
10:50
be
10:50
almost.
10:50
Wow.
10:52
Half
10:52
the
10:52
population.
10:53
You
10:53
could
10:53
probably
10:54
is
10:54
probably
10:54
what,
10:56
seven
10:56
times
10:57
if
10:57
you
10:58
filled
10:58
the
10:58
Erie
10:59
Sea
10:59
Wolves
10:59
Stadium
11:00
to
11:00
capacity
11:00
times
11:01
that
11:01
by
11:01
about
11:01
7
11:02
or
11:02
so.
11:02
It'd
11:02
probably
11:03
be
11:03
what
11:04
Great
11:04
Lakes
11:04
had.
11:04
Back
11:05
in
11:05
World
11:05
War
11:05
I.
11:06
Yeah,
11:06
probably
11:06
about
11:07
10
11:07
times.
11:07
I
11:07
think
11:07
there's
11:08
only
11:08
7,000.
11:09
I
11:10
think
11:10
it
11:10
was
11:10
50,000.
11:11
I
11:11
should
11:11
have
11:11
double
11:11
checked,
11:12
but
11:12
it
11:12
was,
11:12
it
11:12
was
11:13
quite
11:13
a
11:13
bit
11:13
way,
11:13
way,
11:14
way
11:14
more
11:15
than
11:15
they
11:15
would
11:16
have
11:16
today.
11:16
Yeah,
11:17
man,
11:18
that's
11:18
a
11:18
larger.
11:19
Much
11:19
larger
11:19
than
11:20
I
11:20
thought.
11:20
So
11:20
that
11:21
is,
11:21
you
11:21
know,
11:21
they're
11:21
playing
11:22
against
11:22
university
11:23
teams.
11:23
It's
11:24
bigger
11:24
than
11:24
any
11:25
university.
11:25
It's
11:26
bigger
11:26
than
11:26
any,
11:26
you
11:27
know,
11:27
four
11:27
or
11:27
five
11:27
universities
11:28
put
11:28
together
11:29
probably
11:29
at
11:29
that
11:29
time.
11:30
Very,
11:31
very
11:32
interesting.
11:33
So,
11:34
okay,
11:34
so
11:35
they
11:35
had,
11:35
they
11:35
had
11:36
these
11:36
teams.
11:36
They,
11:36
you
11:37
know,
11:37
they're,
11:37
they're
11:37
playing
11:37
these
11:38
competitive
11:38
sports
11:39
and,
11:39
you
11:40
know,
11:40
they're
11:40
in
11:40
Great
11:41
Lakes
11:41
Naval
11:41
Station.
11:42
What
11:42
should
11:42
give
11:42
us
11:42
maybe
11:43
the
11:43
location?
11:43
I'm
11:44
not
11:44
sure
11:44
that
11:44
we,
11:44
we
11:45
told
11:45
the
11:45
listeners
11:45
that
11:46
for
11:46
sure.
11:46
Yeah.
11:47
So
11:47
Great
11:47
Lakes
11:48
is
11:48
about
11:48
one
11:49
hour
11:49
north
11:50
of
11:50
the
11:50
city
11:50
of
11:51
Chicago.
11:51
So,
11:53
yeah,
11:53
I
11:53
mean,
11:54
nowadays
11:54
you
11:55
can
11:55
take
11:55
the
11:55
train
11:55
from
11:55
Great
11:56
Lakes
11:56
right
11:56
into
11:56
Ogilvy
11:57
Train
11:57
center
11:58
if
11:58
you,
11:58
if
11:58
you
11:58
know
11:58
the,
11:59
if
11:59
you
11:59
know
11:59
the
11:59
city
11:59
at
12:00
all.
12:01
So,
12:01
yeah,
12:01
I
12:01
mean,
12:01
myself,
12:02
I
12:02
was
12:02
going
12:02
in
12:03
Chicago
12:03
fairly
12:04
regularly,
12:05
but
12:05
yeah,
12:05
it's,
12:06
it's
12:06
right
12:06
on
12:06
Lake
12:07
Michigan.
12:07
It's
12:09
just
12:09
north
12:10
of
12:10
Lake
12:10
Forest,
12:10
which
12:11
is
12:11
where,
12:11
I
12:11
believe
12:11
the
12:11
Chicago
12:12
Bears
12:12
have
12:13
their
12:13
training
12:15
facilities.
12:16
And
12:16
it's
12:16
also,
12:17
I
12:17
think,
12:17
where
12:17
Michael
12:17
Jordan
12:18
was
12:18
at
12:18
when
12:19
he
12:19
was
12:19
playing
12:19
for
12:19
the
12:19
Bulls.
12:20
I
12:20
think
12:20
he
12:20
had
12:20
a
12:20
mansion
12:20
there.
12:21
So
12:21
it's
12:21
quite
12:21
close
12:21
to
12:22
there.
12:23
Oh,
12:23
very
12:23
cool.
12:24
So,
12:24
you
12:24
know,
12:25
George
12:25
Hallis
12:25
is
12:26
very
12:26
central
12:27
in
12:27
this
12:27
story
12:28
and
12:28
in
12:29
your
12:29
series
12:29
that
12:29
you
12:30
have
12:30
going
12:30
on
12:30
with
12:31
the,
12:31
the
12:31
Great
12:32
Lakes
12:32
Naval
12:33
Football
12:33
team.
12:34
And,
12:34
you
12:35
know,
12:35
of
12:35
course,
12:35
that's
12:35
a
12:35
stomping
12:36
ground.
12:36
He
12:36
played
12:36
at
12:36
the
12:37
University
12:37
of
12:37
Illinois,
12:38
you
12:38
know,
12:40
end
12:40
up
12:40
going
12:40
with
12:41
the,
12:41
the
12:41
Blue
12:42
Jackets
12:42
and
12:43
of
12:43
course,
12:43
you
12:43
know,
12:43
Decatur
12:44
and
12:44
the
12:45
Chicago
12:45
Bears.
12:45
So
12:46
that's
12:46
his
12:46
stomping
12:47
ground.
12:47
So
12:47
I
12:48
guess
12:48
maybe
12:48
that's
12:49
where
12:49
he
12:49
got
12:49
to
12:50
know
12:50
the
12:50
lay
12:50
of
12:50
the
12:50
land
12:50
a
12:51
little
12:51
bit
12:51
better.
12:52
Serving
12:52
in
12:52
the
12:52
military.
12:53
Yeah,
12:53
I
12:54
mean,
12:54
he,
12:55
he
12:55
is
12:56
the
12:57
namesake
12:58
to
12:58
the
12:59
project
12:59
I
12:59
worked
13:00
on.
13:00
You
13:00
know,
13:00
it's
13:00
called
13:01
Jackie's
13:02
George
13:02
hallis
13:03
and
13:03
the
13:03
1918
13:04
Naval
13:04
Station
13:04
Great
13:05
Lakes
13:05
Blue
13:05
Jackets.
13:06
But.
13:06
And
13:07
I
13:07
kind
13:07
of
13:07
made
13:08
the
13:08
story
13:08
a.
13:09
Focused
13:09
on
13:10
Hallis
13:11
because
13:11
he
13:11
became
13:12
such
13:12
a
13:13
figure
13:13
in
13:13
football.
13:14
You
13:14
know,
13:14
he
13:15
was
13:15
on
13:15
the
13:15
Decatur
13:16
Staleys,
13:17
moved
13:17
the
13:17
team
13:17
to
13:17
Chicago,
13:18
made
13:19
them
13:19
the
13:19
Bears,
13:20
was
13:20
owner,
13:21
player,
13:22
coach
13:22
for
13:22
like
13:23
40
13:23
years.
13:24
You
13:24
know,
13:24
he
13:24
just
13:24
had
13:25
such
13:25
a
13:25
historic
13:25
run,
13:26
and
13:27
he
13:28
really
13:29
was
13:30
an
13:31
interesting
13:31
guy
13:31
in
13:31
football
13:32
history.
13:32
I
13:32
mean,
13:32
if
13:33
you
13:33
cover
13:33
football
13:33
history
13:34
at
13:34
all,
13:34
there's
13:35
no
13:35
way
13:35
George
13:35
House's
13:36
name
13:36
does
13:36
not
13:36
get
13:36
brought
13:37
up.
13:38
I
13:38
want
13:39
to
13:39
say,
13:39
for
13:40
the
13:40
actual
13:40
Blue
13:41
Jackets,
13:41
though,
13:42
I
13:42
would
13:43
say
13:43
he
13:43
was
13:44
kind
13:44
of
13:44
just
13:44
another
13:44
player
13:45
on
13:45
the
13:45
team.
13:46
I
13:46
mean,
13:47
they
13:47
had
13:47
three
13:48
future
13:48
hall
13:48
of
13:48
Famers
13:49
on
13:49
the
13:49
team.
13:49
Jimmy
13:50
Konzelman,
13:50
who
13:50
didn't
13:51
even
13:51
play.
13:51
He
13:51
got
13:52
benched
13:52
in
13:52
the,
13:52
in
13:52
the
13:53
season.
13:54
He
13:55
wasn't
13:55
on
13:55
the
13:55
team.
13:56
He
13:56
was
13:56
on
13:56
the
13:56
team.
13:57
Excuse
13:57
me.
13:59
But
13:59
I
14:00
mean,
14:00
it
14:00
was
14:00
him.
14:01
It
14:01
was
14:01
George
14:01
Hallis
14:03
and
14:03
Patty
14:04
Driscoll
14:04
as
14:04
well,
14:05
who
14:05
went
14:05
in
14:05
for
14:05
councilman
14:06
as
14:06
quarterback,
14:06
I
14:07
mean,
14:07
for
14:08
the
14:08
team.
14:08
And
14:08
I
14:08
mean,
14:08
quarterback
14:09
was
14:09
a
14:09
totally
14:09
different
14:10
position
14:11
that
14:12
than.
14:12
Than
14:12
it
14:12
is
14:13
now.
14:13
You
14:13
know,
14:13
the
14:13
Ford
14:14
Pass
14:14
was
14:14
only
14:14
about
14:15
a
14:15
dozen
14:15
years
14:15
old
14:16
at
14:17
the
14:17
time
14:17
of
14:17
the
14:17
Great
14:17
Lakes
14:17
blue
14:18
jackets
14:18
of
14:18
1918.
14:19
So
14:20
those
14:21
three
14:21
players
14:21
really
14:22
were.
14:23
I
14:23
mean,
14:24
I
14:24
think
14:24
if
14:24
I
14:24
had
14:25
to
14:25
guess,
14:25
I
14:25
would
14:25
say
14:25
Driscoll
14:26
was
14:26
the
14:26
star
14:27
of
14:27
the
14:27
team.
14:27
And
14:28
you
14:28
could.
14:28
If
14:29
you.
14:29
If
14:29
you
14:29
looked
14:29
into
14:29
this
14:30
1918
14:30
Rose
14:30
bowl,
14:31
he
14:31
probably
14:32
could
14:32
have
14:32
been
14:32
the
14:32
MVP,
14:33
which
14:33
went
14:33
to
14:33
George
14:34
Ellis.
14:36
But,
14:36
yeah,
14:36
I
14:36
mean,
14:37
George
14:37
House
14:37
himself,
14:38
he.
14:39
He
14:39
didn't
14:39
really
14:39
stick
14:40
out
14:40
as
14:40
like
14:40
the
14:41
Tom
14:41
Brady
14:42
of.
14:42
Of
14:42
the
14:43
Blue
14:43
Jackets.
14:43
He
14:44
was
14:44
probably
14:44
more
14:44
like.
14:46
I'm
14:47
trying
14:47
to
14:47
think
14:47
of
14:47
maybe
14:48
like
14:48
a
14:48
Rob
14:48
Gronkowski
14:49
kind
14:49
of.
14:49
Kind
14:50
of
14:50
level
14:50
of.
14:51
Of
14:51
talent
14:52
there.
14:52
Still
14:52
a
14:52
Hall
14:52
of
14:53
Famer,
14:53
but
14:53
probably
14:53
not
14:54
exactly
14:54
carrying
14:55
the
14:55
squad.
14:55
Got
14:56
to
14:56
get
14:56
the
14:56
Patriots
14:56
references
14:57
in
14:57
there,
14:57
you
14:57
know.
14:59
Yeah.
15:00
So,
15:00
I
15:00
mean,
15:01
so
15:01
these
15:01
guys
15:01
are,
15:01
you
15:02
know,
15:02
these
15:02
are
15:02
some
15:02
of
15:02
the.
15:03
The
15:03
brain
15:03
trust
15:04
of
15:04
the
15:05
early
15:05
NFL,
15:05
and
15:05
that's
15:06
probably
15:06
your.
15:06
Part
15:07
of
15:07
your
15:07
connection
15:07
in
15:08
the
15:08
National
15:08
Football
15:08
League
15:09
because,
15:09
you
15:09
know,
15:10
of
15:10
course,
15:10
Halas
15:11
was
15:11
a
15:11
coach
15:11
and
15:12
owner,
15:12
you
15:13
know,
15:13
Chicago
15:13
Bears,
15:13
Decatur
15:14
Staley's
15:15
Conelman
15:16
coached,
15:17
you
15:17
know,
15:17
multiple
15:18
places,
15:18
including
15:18
the
15:18
Chicago
15:19
Cardinals
15:20
and
15:20
some
15:21
other
15:21
places
15:21
around.
15:22
I
15:22
think
15:22
even
15:22
Driscoll
15:23
ended
15:23
up
15:23
coaching
15:23
in
15:24
the
15:24
NFL
15:24
later
15:24
on
15:24
after
15:25
his
15:25
playing
15:25
days.
15:25
Yeah,
15:26
I
15:26
want
15:26
to
15:26
throw
15:26
a
15:26
shout
15:26
out
15:27
for
15:27
Jimmy
15:27
Konsman,
15:28
coach
15:28
of
15:28
the
15:29
NFL
15:29
champion.
15:30
And
15:30
this
15:31
is
15:31
actually
15:31
closer
15:31
to
15:32
me
15:32
than
15:32
Boston.
15:33
The
15:33
Providence
15:34
Steamroller.
15:34
I
15:34
think
15:35
it
15:35
was
15:35
1929,
15:36
so
15:37
I
15:37
think
15:38
player,
15:38
coach,
15:39
and
15:40
that's.
15:40
That's
15:41
where
15:41
I
15:41
went
15:41
to
15:41
college
15:41
was
15:42
in
15:42
Providence.
15:42
And
15:42
I
15:43
have.
15:44
I
15:44
have
15:45
a
15:45
little
15:45
bit
15:45
of.
15:46
I'm
15:46
from
15:46
Mass.
15:46
Grew
15:47
up
15:47
in
15:47
Mass,
15:47
definitely
15:48
from
15:48
Mass,
15:48
but
15:49
there's
15:49
a
15:49
bit
15:49
of
15:50
Rhode
15:50
island
15:50
in
15:50
me
15:50
too.
15:50
So
15:50
I
15:51
want
15:51
to
15:51
make
15:51
sure
15:51
we
15:51
get
15:52
the
15:52
Providence
15:52
Steamroller
15:53
mentioned
15:53
here
15:54
on
15:54
the
15:54
Pig
15:54
Skin
15:55
Dispatch.
15:56
Yeah,
15:56
well,
15:56
we've
15:57
covered
15:57
them
15:57
quite
15:57
well.
15:57
One
15:58
of
15:58
our
15:58
good
15:58
friends,
15:58
Greg
15:59
Tranter,
15:59
just
15:59
wrote
16:00
a
16:00
book
16:00
on
16:00
the
16:00
steamroller
16:01
back
16:01
in
16:01
2025,
16:02
so
16:02
we
16:03
saw
16:03
him
16:03
on
16:03
recently.
16:04
So
16:04
it's
16:04
talks
16:05
quite
16:05
a
16:05
bit
16:05
about
16:05
the
16:05
championship,
16:06
and
16:06
of
16:06
course,
16:06
it
16:07
ties
16:07
into
16:07
some
16:08
of
16:08
the
16:08
teams
16:08
I
16:08
wrote
16:09
about,
16:09
you
16:09
know,
16:09
because
16:09
one
16:09
of
16:09
their
16:10
arch
16:10
rivals
16:11
was
16:11
the
16:11
Pottsville
16:11
Maroons
16:12
and
16:12
some
16:13
things
16:13
that
16:13
I'm
16:14
very
16:14
familiar
16:14
with.
16:14
So
16:15
I
16:15
had
16:15
a
16:15
lot
16:15
of
16:15
fun
16:15
with
16:16
that.
16:16
I'm
16:16
gonna
16:16
have
16:16
to
16:16
get
16:17
the
16:17
reading
16:17
list
16:17
from
16:17
you,
16:17
Darren,
16:18
after
16:18
the.
16:18
After
16:18
the
16:19
show.
16:19
Because
16:19
we
16:19
talked
16:20
before
16:20
the
16:20
show
16:20
about
16:20
all
16:21
your
16:21
works.
16:22
I
16:22
knew
16:22
of
16:22
some
16:22
of
16:22
them,
16:23
but
16:23
not
16:23
all
16:24
of
16:24
them,
16:24
and
16:24
none.
16:25
I
16:25
have
16:25
to
16:26
give
16:26
a
16:26
look
16:26
to
16:26
the
16:26
Providence
16:27
steamroll
16:27
there
16:27
because,
16:28
yeah,
16:28
I
16:29
grew
16:29
up
16:29
on
16:29
the
16:29
Providence
16:30
Journal
16:30
sports
16:30
page,
16:31
so
16:32
every
16:32
morning
16:33
and
16:33
my
16:33
parents
16:33
still
16:33
get.
16:34
I
16:34
just
16:34
saw
16:34
my
16:34
parents.
16:34
I
16:35
was
16:35
reading
16:35
the
16:35
Providence
16:36
Journal
16:37
just
16:37
this
16:37
past
16:37
weekend
16:38
when
16:38
I
16:38
was
16:38
visiting
16:39
during
16:39
New
16:39
Year's.
16:39
So,
16:40
yeah,
16:42
got
16:42
to
16:42
get
16:43
that
16:43
book
16:43
on
16:43
the
16:43
reading
16:43
list.
16:44
Okay,
16:44
very
16:45
good,
16:45
Very
16:45
good.
16:45
All
16:46
right,
16:46
so
16:46
let's
16:46
talk
16:46
about
16:47
your
16:47
project.
16:48
You.
16:48
You
16:48
have
16:49
this
16:49
project
16:49
you
16:49
did
16:50
a
16:50
few
16:50
years
16:50
ago.
16:51
You
16:51
had
16:53
some
16:53
experts
16:53
on.
16:54
Why
16:54
don't
16:54
you
16:54
tell
16:54
us
16:54
a
16:54
little
16:55
bit
16:55
of
16:55
the
16:55
layout
16:56
of
16:56
what
16:56
it
16:56
is?
16:56
And
16:57
I
16:57
guess
16:58
we
16:58
failed
16:58
to
16:58
mention
16:59
this
16:59
is
16:59
something
17:00
that's
17:00
recently
17:01
been
17:01
added
17:01
to
17:02
the
17:02
Sports
17:02
History
17:02
Network
17:03
for
17:03
everybody
17:04
to
17:04
enjoy.
17:05
So
17:05
go
17:05
to
17:05
sportshistorynetwork.com
17:07
where
17:08
you
17:08
can
17:08
find
17:08
this
17:08
podcast
17:09
and
17:09
Jackie's
17:10
the
17:11
1918
17:11
Great
17:12
Lakes
17:12
podcast
17:13
also.
17:13
So,
17:13
Dan,
17:14
why
17:14
don't
17:14
you
17:14
tell
17:14
us
17:14
a
17:15
little
17:15
bit
17:15
about
17:15
how
17:15
you
17:15
put
17:15
this
17:16
together?
17:16
For
17:17
sure.
17:17
Yeah.
17:17
Well,
17:17
first
17:17
off,
17:18
thanks
17:18
for
17:18
the
17:18
plug
17:18
there,
17:19
Sports
17:19
History
17:20
Network.
17:20
Yeah.
17:20
You
17:21
were
17:21
helpful
17:21
in
17:22
many
17:22
ways
17:22
in
17:22
this
17:22
project,
17:23
Darren.
17:23
So
17:24
I
17:24
just
17:24
want
17:25
to
17:25
say
17:25
thanks
17:25
again
17:25
for
17:26
that.
17:26
I
17:26
mean,
17:26
you
17:26
helped
17:26
me
17:27
get
17:27
it
17:27
on.
17:27
Get
17:28
a
17:28
home
17:28
for
17:28
it
17:28
on
17:28
Sports
17:29
History
17:29
Network,
17:29
and
17:29
you
17:29
were
17:30
also
17:30
interviewed
17:30
for
17:31
the
17:31
project.
17:32
But.
17:33
Yeah,
17:34
so
17:34
when
17:34
I
17:34
was
17:34
at
17:34
Great
17:35
Lakes
17:36
10.
17:37
10
17:37
years
17:37
ago.
17:38
Right.
17:39
There's
17:40
really
17:41
kind
17:41
of
17:41
something
17:41
that
17:42
keyed
17:42
this
17:43
project
17:43
off
17:43
is
17:44
there's.
17:45
There's.
17:46
You
17:46
have
17:46
a
17:46
feel
17:47
at
17:47
the
17:47
base
17:47
that
17:47
it's
17:48
old.
17:48
There's
17:49
old
17:49
buildings.
17:51
There
17:52
are
17:52
some
17:52
photos
17:52
around,
17:53
and
17:55
you
17:55
kind
17:55
of
17:55
got
17:55
to
17:56
seek
17:56
it
17:56
out
17:56
a
17:56
little
17:56
bit.
17:58
But.
17:59
And
17:59
this
17:59
is
18:00
not
18:00
a
18:01
location
18:01
most
18:01
people
18:02
would
18:02
go
18:02
to
18:02
at
18:02
the
18:02
base.
18:03
You
18:03
could
18:03
probably
18:03
be
18:03
at
18:03
the
18:03
base
18:04
for
18:04
a
18:04
year
18:04
and
18:04
never
18:05
see
18:06
what
18:06
I'm
18:06
about
18:06
to
18:06
tell
18:06
you
18:07
about.
18:07
So
18:08
Ross
18:08
Fields
18:09
is
18:10
the
18:10
field
18:10
of
18:11
the
18:11
Jackies,
18:11
but
18:12
they
18:12
only
18:12
had
18:12
one
18:12
game
18:13
there
18:13
during
18:14
the
18:14
1918
18:14
season.
18:16
That
18:16
was
18:16
their
18:16
home
18:16
field.
18:17
And
18:17
it's
18:17
on
18:17
the
18:17
base,
18:18
and
18:18
it's
18:18
in
18:18
front
18:18
of
18:18
the
18:18
main
18:19
buildings.
18:19
It's
18:19
currently
18:20
in
18:20
front
18:20
of
18:20
a
18:20
gym
18:21
and
18:21
a
18:21
theater
18:21
and
18:22
still
18:22
the
18:22
main
18:22
building,
18:23
but
18:24
there's.
18:24
On
18:24
the
18:25
other
18:25
side.
18:25
Is
18:25
it
18:26
still
18:26
a
18:26
football
18:26
field?
18:28
It
18:28
is
18:28
not.
18:29
It's
18:29
a
18:30
field
18:30
that
18:30
gets
18:30
very,
18:31
very,
18:31
very
18:31
little
18:32
use.
18:32
So
18:33
on
18:33
one
18:33
side
18:33
is
18:34
the
18:34
gym,
18:34
on
18:34
one
18:34
side
18:35
is
18:35
a
18:35
theater.
18:35
On
18:36
one
18:36
side
18:36
is
18:36
the
18:36
main
18:37
administration
18:37
building.
18:38
And
18:38
then
18:38
if
18:38
you
18:38
go
18:38
on
18:39
the
18:39
other
18:39
side,
18:39
which
18:39
is
18:39
closer
18:40
to
18:40
the
18:40
entrance,
18:40
they.
18:41
There
18:41
is
18:41
a
18:41
plaque,
18:42
and
18:42
it
18:43
basically
18:43
states,
18:44
like,
18:44
here
18:44
is
18:45
Ross
18:45
Fields,
18:46
home
18:46
of
18:47
one
18:47
of
18:47
the
18:48
Best
18:48
football
18:49
teams
18:49
of
18:50
the
18:50
service
18:50
football
18:50
era
18:51
of
18:51
World
18:51
War
18:51
I
18:52
and
18:52
World
18:52
War
18:52
II.
18:53
And
18:54
when
18:55
I
18:55
first
18:55
saw
18:55
it,
18:55
I'm
18:56
like,
18:57
what's
18:57
the
18:58
deal?
18:58
You
18:58
know,
18:59
like,
18:59
why
19:00
don't
19:00
I
19:00
know
19:00
more
19:01
about
19:01
this?
19:01
I'm
19:01
like
19:01
a
19:02
guy
19:02
who,
19:02
you
19:02
know,
19:03
read
19:03
the
19:04
Providence
19:04
Journal
19:04
of
19:04
Sports
19:05
every
19:05
morning,
19:06
still
19:06
listens
19:06
to
19:07
Boston
19:07
Sports
19:07
radio,
19:08
follows
19:08
sports
19:09
pretty
19:09
intensely.
19:10
And
19:11
I
19:11
didn't
19:11
know
19:11
anything
19:12
about
19:12
it,
19:12
so
19:13
it
19:13
really
19:13
piqued
19:14
my
19:14
interest.
19:15
Then
19:15
did
19:16
a
19:16
little
19:16
bit
19:16
of
19:16
research
19:17
and
19:17
then
19:18
come
19:18
to
19:18
find
19:18
out,
19:18
you
19:19
know,
19:19
I
19:19
got
19:19
this
19:20
opportunity
19:20
in
19:20
front
19:20
of
19:21
me
19:21
ten
19:21
years
19:22
later,
19:22
pretty
19:22
much.
19:24
But
19:24
for
19:24
my
19:24
thesis
19:25
project.
19:26
You
19:26
could
19:26
either
19:27
do
19:27
a
19:27
thesis
19:27
project
19:27
or
19:28
you
19:28
could
19:28
do
19:28
a
19:28
thesis
19:28
paper.
19:31
Someone
19:31
who
19:31
likes
19:32
to
19:32
create
19:32
things.
19:32
I'm
19:33
not
19:33
really
19:33
a
19:33
writer,
19:33
you
19:34
know,
19:34
I
19:34
was
19:36
even
19:36
still
19:37
for
19:37
my
19:37
civilian
19:38
job,
19:38
I'm
19:38
doing
19:39
content
19:40
creation.
19:40
I
19:41
don't
19:41
want
19:41
to
19:41
write,
19:41
so.
19:42
Which
19:42
could
19:43
be
19:43
a
19:43
good
19:43
book.
19:44
But
19:45
this
19:45
project
19:45
came
19:45
about
19:46
in
19:48
my.
19:48
I
19:48
graduated
19:49
spring
19:49
2024
19:51
with
19:51
this
19:51
thesis
19:52
project.
19:52
But
19:52
in
19:53
the
19:53
fall
19:53
of
19:53
2023,
19:54
I
19:55
had
19:55
a
19:55
class
19:55
called.
19:56
It
19:57
was,
19:57
I
19:57
think
19:57
it
19:57
was
19:57
sports
19:58
journalism.
20:00
And
20:00
the
20:00
instructor
20:01
was
20:01
Lars
20:01
Anderson.
20:02
So
20:02
if
20:02
you
20:02
know
20:02
Sports
20:03
Illustrated,
20:04
if
20:04
you
20:04
know
20:04
some
20:04
sports
20:04
history
20:05
books,
20:05
he's
20:05
an
20:06
author
20:06
and
20:06
he's
20:06
from
20:07
Alabama
20:07
and
20:07
he
20:08
does
20:08
some
20:09
teaching
20:09
at
20:09
the
20:09
school
20:10
and
20:10
he
20:11
was
20:11
a
20:11
professor.
20:11
I
20:12
in
20:12
the,
20:12
the
20:13
main
20:13
project
20:13
was
20:13
you
20:14
got
20:14
to
20:14
do
20:14
a
20:14
book
20:14
pitch.
20:15
And
20:16
I
20:16
pitched
20:16
this
20:17
and
20:17
he's
20:17
like,
20:17
oh,
20:18
this
20:18
is,
20:18
this
20:18
is
20:18
cool.
20:19
He
20:19
ended
20:19
up
20:19
being
20:19
the
20:19
advisor
20:20
on
20:20
the
20:21
project.
20:22
And
20:22
I
20:22
got
20:22
approved
20:23
to,
20:24
to
20:24
do
20:24
this
20:24
project
20:25
for
20:25
the
20:25
next
20:25
semester
20:26
for
20:26
my
20:26
thesis
20:27
project.
20:28
Talked
20:28
to
20:28
the,
20:29
talk
20:29
to
20:30
Lars
20:30
Anderson,
20:31
talked
20:31
to
20:31
the,
20:32
the
20:32
head
20:33
of
20:33
the
20:33
department.
20:34
And,
20:34
and
20:34
I
20:34
was
20:34
able
20:35
to
20:35
start
20:35
working
20:35
on
20:35
it.
20:36
So
20:36
yeah,
20:37
I
20:37
read
20:37
War
20:38
Football
20:38
by
20:38
Chris
20:39
Serb.
20:40
I
20:40
read
20:40
Fields
20:41
of
20:41
Friendly
20:41
Strife
20:41
by
20:42
Tim
20:42
Brown.
20:42
I
20:42
listened
20:42
to
20:43
a
20:43
few
20:43
episodes
20:43
of
20:44
the
20:44
Pigskin
20:45
Dispatch
20:45
when
20:45
you
20:45
did
20:46
a
20:46
few
20:46
Rose
20:47
bowl
20:47
additions
20:48
from
20:48
back
20:48
in
20:48
the
20:48
day.
20:49
And
20:50
then
20:50
I
20:52
got
20:52
on.
20:52
I
20:52
was
20:53
fortunate
20:53
to
20:53
use
20:53
the
20:54
university
20:54
database.
20:55
Got
20:55
a
20:55
bunch
20:55
of
20:55
stories.
20:56
Pretty
20:56
much
20:56
the
20:57
Great
20:57
Lakes
20:57
Bulletin
20:57
was
20:58
the
20:58
top
20:58
source.
20:59
But
20:59
I
20:59
mean
20:59
there
20:59
was
21:00
other
21:00
Chicago
21:00
based
21:01
newspapers
21:01
and
21:01
then
21:02
some
21:02
other
21:02
ones
21:03
based
21:03
on
21:03
where
21:03
the
21:03
team
21:03
might
21:04
have
21:04
been
21:04
playing.
21:04
And
21:05
yeah,
21:05
I
21:06
mean,
21:07
interviewed
21:07
five
21:08
people
21:08
including
21:08
yourself.
21:09
You
21:09
were
21:09
the
21:09
first
21:10
guest
21:10
that
21:10
I
21:10
interviewed.
21:11
And
21:11
then
21:11
I
21:11
had
21:12
Chris
21:12
Serb,
21:13
I
21:13
had
21:13
Timothy
21:13
Brown,
21:13
I
21:14
had
21:14
Josie
21:14
Emba,
21:14
and
21:15
then
21:15
I
21:15
had
21:15
Dr.
21:16
Charles
21:16
Clark,
21:16
who
21:17
was
21:17
a
21:17
World
21:18
War
21:18
I
21:18
and
21:19
2
21:20
professor
21:20
from
21:20
the
21:21
college.
21:21
Was
21:22
able
21:22
to,
21:22
you
21:23
know,
21:23
squeeze
21:24
maybe
21:25
two
21:25
and
21:25
a
21:25
half,
21:25
three
21:26
hours
21:26
of
21:26
audio
21:28
down
21:28
into
21:28
some
21:28
clips,
21:29
place
21:30
it
21:30
throughout.
21:30
I
21:31
got
21:31
some
21:31
friends
21:31
to
21:32
well,
21:32
not
21:32
some,
21:33
some
21:33
friends
21:33
and
21:33
then
21:34
some
21:34
professionals
21:35
to
21:35
help
21:36
me
21:36
record
21:37
some
21:37
old
21:37
bits
21:37
of
21:37
newspaper
21:38
clippings
21:38
in
21:39
a
21:39
Ken
21:39
Burns
21:40
esque
21:40
style.
21:40
I'm
21:41
a
21:41
big
21:41
Ken
21:41
Burns
21:43
historian,
21:44
documentary
21:45
fan.
21:45
I
21:45
am
21:45
currently
21:46
watching
21:46
the
21:46
American
21:47
Revolution.
21:47
But
21:48
the
21:48
way
21:48
that
21:49
he
21:49
kind
21:49
of
21:50
has
21:50
voices
21:51
from
21:51
the
21:51
past
21:51
talk,
21:52
I
21:53
incorporated
21:53
that
21:53
into
21:54
this
21:54
podcast
21:54
as
21:54
well.
21:54
And
21:55
then
21:55
I
21:55
do
21:55
a
21:55
little
21:55
bit
21:55
of
21:56
narration
21:56
and
21:56
kind
21:57
of
21:57
also
21:57
tell
21:57
my
21:58
story
21:58
like
21:58
I'm
21:58
telling
21:59
you
21:59
now,
21:59
about
21:59
my
22:00
connection
22:00
to
22:00
the
22:00
team
22:00
and
22:01
why
22:01
it
22:01
kind
22:01
of
22:01
matters
22:02
to
22:02
me.
22:02
And
22:02
hopefully
22:02
that
22:03
strikes
22:03
a
22:03
chord
22:03
with
22:04
the
22:04
listener
22:04
and
22:04
it
22:04
matters
22:05
to
22:05
you
22:05
and
22:05
you
22:06
pick
22:06
up
22:06
some
22:06
football.
22:07
I
22:07
mean,
22:07
because
22:07
this
22:07
team,
22:08
the,
22:09
the
22:09
game,
22:09
the
22:09
rose
22:09
bowl
22:10
of
22:10
1919
22:11
for
22:11
the
22:11
1918
22:12
season
22:13
was
22:13
dubbed,
22:14
not
22:15
by
22:15
me
22:15
here,
22:15
by
22:15
the
22:16
newspapers
22:16
of
22:16
the
22:16
day,
22:16
the
22:17
football
22:17
championship
22:17
of
22:17
the
22:18
world.
22:18
And
22:19
I
22:19
mean,
22:20
we
22:20
even
22:20
had
22:20
Newt
22:20
Rockne
22:21
saying
22:21
this
22:21
was
22:21
the
22:22
best
22:22
football
22:22
team
22:22
ever
22:23
when
22:23
he
22:23
was
22:23
coaching
22:23
Notre
22:24
Dame
22:24
playing
22:24
against
22:24
Great
22:25
Lakes.
22:25
And
22:26
it's
22:26
something
22:26
that
22:27
I
22:27
think
22:28
you
22:28
really
22:28
got
22:28
to
22:29
be
22:29
a
22:29
crazy
22:29
football
22:30
historian
22:31
to
22:31
kind
22:31
of
22:31
know
22:31
about
22:32
this
22:32
team.
22:32
So
22:33
I
22:33
took
22:33
it
22:33
upon
22:34
myself,
22:34
you
22:34
know,
22:34
with
22:34
that
22:34
connection
22:35
and
22:35
with
22:35
the,
22:36
the
22:36
college
22:37
project,
22:37
to
22:38
get
22:38
that
22:38
word
22:38
out
22:40
of
22:40
this
22:40
team
22:40
that
22:41
featured
22:41
three
22:42
future
22:42
Pro
22:42
Football
22:42
hall
22:43
of
22:43
Famers.
22:43
They
22:43
won
22:43
the
22:44
Rose
22:44
Bowl.
22:44
I
22:44
mean,
22:45
those
22:45
are
22:45
two
22:45
things
22:45
that
22:46
stick
22:46
to
22:46
this
22:46
day,
22:46
you
22:47
know,
22:47
the
22:47
hall
22:47
of
22:47
Fame
22:48
and
22:48
the
22:48
Rose
22:49
Bowl.
22:49
I
22:49
mean,
22:49
it's
22:49
still
22:49
the
22:50
biggest
22:50
game
22:50
on
22:50
New
22:50
Year's
22:51
Day,
22:51
so
22:53
I
22:53
think
22:54
that
22:54
helps
22:55
the
22:55
listeners
22:55
out.
22:55
But
22:56
I
22:56
mean,
22:56
the
22:56
real
22:56
story
22:57
is
22:57
the
22:57
connection
22:57
to
22:58
growing,
22:59
helping
23:00
launch
23:00
the
23:00
NFL.
23:01
And
23:02
I
23:02
mean,
23:02
the
23:02
NFL
23:02
is
23:03
the,
23:04
the
23:04
number
23:04
one
23:05
sports
23:05
league
23:05
in
23:05
this
23:06
country.
23:06
And
23:07
it's
23:08
really.
23:08
You
23:08
could
23:08
trace
23:09
it
23:09
back
23:09
to
23:09
this
23:10
team.
23:10
So
23:10
I
23:11
think
23:11
it's
23:11
an
23:11
important
23:11
story
23:12
if
23:12
you
23:12
like
23:12
the
23:12
sport
23:12
of
23:12
football.
23:14
Yeah,
23:14
definitely
23:15
is.
23:15
And
23:15
you
23:15
know,
23:15
the
23:15
Great
23:16
Lakes,
23:16
like
23:16
you
23:16
said
23:17
earlier,
23:18
went
23:18
into
23:18
the
23:19
next
23:19
World
23:19
War,
23:19
you
23:20
know,
23:20
some
23:20
20
23:20
years
23:21
later,
23:21
for
23:22
30
23:22
years
23:22
later,
23:23
and
23:24
spawned
23:24
some
23:25
competition
23:25
for,
23:26
for
23:26
the
23:26
NFL.
23:27
And
23:27
maybe
23:28
you
23:28
could
23:28
talk
23:28
a
23:28
little
23:28
bit
23:29
about
23:29
that.
23:29
Some
23:29
of
23:30
the
23:30
famous
23:30
names
23:30
from
23:31
that
23:31
Great
23:31
Lakes
23:31
team.
23:32
Yeah,
23:32
so
23:34
I
23:34
originally
23:34
started
23:35
this
23:35
project
23:35
and
23:36
if
23:36
you
23:36
remember,
23:36
you
23:37
were
23:37
the
23:37
first
23:37
person
23:37
I
23:37
interviewed
23:38
and
23:38
we
23:38
actually
23:38
talked
23:39
quite
23:39
a
23:39
bit
23:39
about
23:40
this.
23:40
We.
23:40
It
23:41
was
23:41
originally
23:41
going
23:41
to
23:41
be
23:42
both
23:42
teams,
23:43
World
23:43
War
23:43
I
23:43
era
23:43
and
23:44
World
23:44
War
23:44
II
23:44
era.
23:45
And
23:45
when
23:45
it
23:46
was
23:46
all
23:46
said
23:46
and
23:46
done,
23:47
it
23:47
was
23:47
just
23:47
World
23:48
War
23:48
I.
23:48
So.
23:49
But
23:49
World
23:49
War
23:50
II,
23:50
it's
23:50
itself,
23:51
I
23:51
mean,
23:51
they
23:51
had
23:51
so
23:52
many
23:52
names
23:52
that,
23:53
which
23:53
would
23:54
make
23:54
football
23:54
fans,
23:55
you
23:55
know,
23:56
be
23:56
like,
23:56
oh
23:56
my
23:56
gosh,
23:57
I
23:57
had
23:57
no
23:57
idea
23:58
that
23:58
Paul
23:58
Brown
23:59
was
23:59
the
23:59
head
23:59
Coach,
23:59
you
24:00
know,
24:00
from
24:00
the
24:00
Cleveland
24:01
Browns.
24:01
You
24:02
know,
24:02
he
24:02
was
24:02
coaching
24:03
Great
24:03
Lakes.
24:04
Before
24:04
him
24:04
was
24:04
Tony
24:05
Hinkle,
24:05
which,
24:06
if
24:06
you
24:06
follow
24:07
college
24:07
basketball
24:08
is
24:08
the
24:08
name
24:08
behind
24:09
the
24:09
Butler
24:10
Gymnasium.
24:10
You
24:11
know,
24:11
uh,
24:12
so
24:12
those
24:12
are
24:12
just
24:13
names
24:13
on
24:13
the
24:13
sideline.
24:14
On
24:14
the
24:14
field
24:15
was
24:15
Steve
24:15
Belichick,
24:16
who
24:16
was
24:16
Bill
24:17
Belichick's
24:17
dad,
24:18
who
24:18
coached
24:19
at
24:19
Navy
24:19
for.
24:20
At
24:20
the
24:20
Naval
24:20
Academy
24:21
for
24:21
I
24:21
think
24:22
like
24:22
30
24:22
something
24:22
years.
24:23
It
24:23
might
24:23
be
24:23
more.
24:24
I
24:24
think
24:24
it's
24:24
in
24:25
the
24:25
30s.
24:26
Also
24:26
on
24:26
the
24:26
team.
24:27
Yeah,
24:27
yeah,
24:28
it's
24:28
crazy.
24:29
Uh,
24:29
turned
24:29
down
24:30
many
24:30
other
24:30
positions
24:31
from
24:31
what
24:31
I've.
24:31
From
24:32
what
24:32
I've
24:32
learned.
24:32
And
24:33
then
24:33
Eric
24:33
Parsigian
24:34
was
24:34
on
24:34
the
24:34
team,
24:35
who
24:35
is
24:35
the
24:35
future
24:35
Notre
24:36
Dame
24:36
coach.
24:36
They
24:36
even
24:37
had
24:38
one
24:38
of
24:38
the
24:38
Heisman
24:39
Trophy
24:39
winners
24:39
from
24:40
back
24:40
in
24:40
the
24:40
day.
24:40
Bruce
24:41
Smith
24:41
was
24:41
on
24:42
the
24:42
team.
24:42
He
24:42
won
24:42
the
24:42
Heisman
24:43
in
24:43
41,
24:43
was
24:44
on
24:44
the
24:44
Blue
24:44
Jack
24:44
in
24:45
42.
24:45
And
24:46
then
24:46
the
24:46
World
24:47
War
24:47
II
24:47
team
24:47
had
24:48
Marion
24:48
Motley.
24:49
And
24:49
then
24:50
who
24:50
was
24:50
in
24:51
the.
24:51
The
24:51
old.
24:53
You
24:53
got
24:53
to
24:53
help
24:53
me,
24:53
Darren,
24:54
with
24:54
the
24:54
league.
24:55
The
24:55
All
24:55
American
24:55
aafc.
24:57
Yes,
24:57
the
24:57
Cleveland
24:57
Browns,
24:58
when
24:58
the
24:58
Browns.
24:58
Started,
24:59
was
24:59
on
24:59
that
25:00
Browns
25:00
dynasty
25:00
of
25:01
that,
25:01
that
25:01
league.
25:01
And
25:02
then
25:02
they
25:02
also
25:03
beat
25:03
Notre
25:03
Dame
25:03
in
25:04
1943
25:04
when
25:05
Notre
25:05
Dame
25:05
was
25:05
national
25:06
champions
25:06
in
25:07
the
25:07
last
25:07
game
25:07
of
25:07
the
25:07
season.
25:09
So,
25:09
I
25:09
mean,
25:09
the
25:09
World
25:09
War
25:10
II
25:10
team
25:10
could
25:11
be
25:11
covered
25:11
over
25:12
the
25:12
course
25:12
of
25:12
four
25:12
seasons.
25:13
And
25:14
this
25:14
Great
25:14
Lakes
25:15
team
25:15
was
25:15
only
25:15
around
25:15
for
25:16
two
25:16
back
25:16
during,
25:18
during
25:18
the
25:18
World
25:18
War
25:19
I
25:19
era.
25:19
So
25:20
1917,
25:21
they.
25:23
They
25:23
played
25:23
a
25:23
full
25:24
season
25:24
and
25:24
they
25:24
pretty
25:25
much
25:25
had
25:25
an
25:25
entirely
25:26
different
25:26
roster
25:27
going
25:27
into
25:27
1918,
25:28
which
25:28
was
25:29
the
25:29
team
25:29
that
25:29
ended
25:30
up,
25:30
you
25:30
know,
25:31
winning
25:31
that
25:31
Rose
25:31
bowl
25:32
and
25:32
that,
25:32
that
25:32
kind
25:33
of
25:33
put
25:33
a.
25:33
Put
25:33
an
25:34
end
25:34
to
25:34
the.
25:34
The
25:35
World
25:35
War
25:35
I
25:35
service
25:36
era.
25:36
But,
25:36
yeah,
25:38
crazy,
25:39
crazy
25:39
names
25:40
coming
25:40
through
25:40
there
25:41
through
25:42
Great
25:42
Lakes,
25:42
just
25:43
through
25:43
the
25:43
football
25:43
team.
25:44
It's
25:44
crazy
25:44
to
25:45
learn.
25:45
And
25:46
it's
25:46
cool
25:47
that
25:47
the
25:47
connection
25:48
is
25:48
there.
25:49
Yeah,
25:49
very,
25:50
very
25:50
cool.
25:50
And
25:51
I'll
25:51
tell
25:51
you,
25:51
folks,
25:52
it
25:52
is
25:52
very
25:52
professionally
25:53
done.
25:54
You
25:54
know,
25:54
Dan
25:55
says
25:55
he
25:55
had
25:55
a
25:55
lot
25:55
of
25:55
help,
25:56
but
25:56
he
25:56
doesn't
25:56
give
25:56
himself
25:57
enough
25:57
credit
25:57
because
25:57
it's
25:58
a
25:58
brilliant
25:58
idea.
25:59
And
25:59
he
25:59
put
26:00
it
26:00
all
26:00
together
26:01
and,
26:01
you
26:01
know,
26:01
as
26:02
a
26:02
college
26:02
student
26:03
at
26:03
the
26:03
time,
26:03
you
26:03
know,
26:04
with
26:04
a
26:04
busy
26:04
life
26:05
in
26:05
the
26:05
military,
26:06
he's
26:06
calling
26:06
strangers
26:07
like,
26:08
like
26:08
this
26:08
guy
26:08
talking
26:09
here,
26:09
that's
26:09
a,
26:10
you
26:10
know,
26:10
probably
26:10
not
26:11
the
26:11
easiest
26:11
one
26:11
to
26:11
get
26:12
a
26:12
hold
26:12
of.
26:12
And,
26:13
you
26:13
know,
26:13
it
26:14
was
26:14
great
26:14
because,
26:14
you
26:15
know,
26:15
Timothy
26:16
Brown
26:16
and
26:16
Josiemba
26:18
and
26:18
even
26:18
Chris
26:18
Serb,
26:19
they're
26:19
all
26:19
been
26:19
guests
26:20
on
26:20
here.
26:20
Actually,
26:21
Josiemba
26:21
has
26:22
been
26:22
on
26:22
here
26:22
probably
26:23
30
26:23
times.
26:24
Tim
26:24
Brown's
26:24
on
26:25
here
26:25
weekly
26:25
for
26:26
the
26:26
last
26:26
three
26:26
or
26:26
four
26:27
years.
26:27
He's
26:28
every
26:28
Tuesday,
26:28
he's
26:29
with
26:29
us
26:29
on
26:29
the.
26:29
In
26:30
the
26:30
pig
26:30
pen.
26:30
And
26:31
Chris
26:31
Herb,
26:31
just
26:31
recently
26:32
we
26:32
talked
26:32
about
26:32
his
26:33
recent
26:33
book
26:33
on
26:33
Walter
26:34
Eckersley,
26:35
another
26:35
Chicagoan
26:36
that
26:36
was
26:37
recently
26:39
wrote
26:39
a
26:39
book
26:39
about.
26:40
But
26:40
you
26:41
know,
26:41
you
26:41
did
26:41
a
26:41
great
26:42
job
26:42
on
26:42
this.
26:42
And
26:43
so
26:43
we're
26:43
very
26:44
proud
26:44
at
26:44
Sports
26:44
History
26:45
Network
26:45
that
26:46
you
26:46
decided
26:46
to
26:48
join
26:48
us
26:48
and
26:49
let
26:49
us
26:49
be
26:50
a,
26:50
you
26:50
know,
26:50
a
26:50
purveyor
26:51
of
26:51
sending
26:52
out
26:53
your
26:53
podcast
26:54
and
26:54
maybe
26:54
just
26:54
tell
26:55
folks
26:55
a
26:55
little
26:55
bit
26:56
about,
26:56
you
26:56
know,
26:56
how
26:56
long
26:57
is
26:57
a
26:57
series
26:57
and
26:58
what
26:58
can
26:58
they
26:58
expect.
26:59
Yeah,
26:59
for
26:59
sure.
27:00
So
27:01
I
27:01
was
27:02
fortunate
27:03
that
27:03
it
27:03
came
27:03
out,
27:04
I
27:04
think,
27:04
as
27:04
I
27:04
wanted
27:05
in
27:06
terms
27:06
of
27:06
lengthwise.
27:08
So
27:08
it's
27:08
about
27:09
three
27:09
30
27:09
minute
27:10
episodes
27:11
for
27:11
the,
27:12
for
27:12
the
27:12
podcast.
27:12
And
27:13
yeah,
27:14
to
27:14
be
27:15
honest,
27:15
this
27:15
was,
27:15
this
27:16
was
27:16
a
27:16
project
27:16
that
27:16
was
27:17
done
27:17
in
27:17
spring
27:17
2024
27:19
and
27:19
then
27:20
I
27:20
kind
27:20
of
27:20
just
27:21
got
27:21
burnt
27:21
out
27:22
from
27:22
it
27:22
and
27:22
put
27:23
it
27:23
aside.
27:23
I'm
27:23
like,
27:23
I'll
27:24
get
27:24
to
27:24
this
27:24
later.
27:25
And
27:26
then,
27:26
yeah,
27:26
I
27:26
was
27:26
able
27:26
to
27:26
design
27:27
the
27:27
podcast
27:27
art
27:29
way
27:30
later
27:31
and
27:32
yeah,
27:32
found
27:32
a
27:32
home
27:33
on
27:33
the
27:33
Sports
27:33
History
27:33
Network.
27:34
So
27:34
I'm
27:34
very,
27:34
very
27:35
fortunate
27:36
that
27:37
it's
27:37
able
27:37
to
27:38
find
27:38
a
27:38
home
27:38
and
27:38
that
27:39
the
27:39
project
27:39
is
27:40
complete
27:40
and
27:40
ready
27:41
for
27:41
all
27:41
the
27:41
listeners.
27:42
Yeah,
27:43
like
27:43
I
27:43
said,
27:43
it
27:43
was
27:43
from
27:44
the
27:44
University
27:44
of
27:44
Alabama.
27:45
Not
27:45
that
27:45
the
27:45
school
27:46
has
27:46
anything
27:46
to
27:46
do
27:47
with
27:47
what
27:48
came
27:48
out,
27:49
but
27:50
it
27:50
was
27:50
from,
27:51
you
27:51
know,
27:51
that,
27:52
that,
27:52
that
27:52
program
27:53
that,
27:54
that
27:54
I
27:54
was
27:54
able
27:54
to
27:54
do
27:55
this.
27:55
So.
27:55
Yeah,
27:56
and
27:56
I
27:57
also
27:57
just
27:57
want
27:57
to
27:57
say,
27:58
like,
27:58
I
27:58
was
27:58
lucky
27:59
that
27:59
when
27:59
I
27:59
was
27:59
in
28:00
the
28:00
military,
28:00
I
28:00
got
28:01
some
28:01
audio
28:01
production
28:02
experience
28:03
when
28:03
I
28:03
was
28:03
at
28:03
AFN
28:04
Naples
28:05
because
28:05
I
28:06
was
28:06
able
28:06
to
28:06
host
28:06
some
28:06
live
28:07
radio
28:07
shows
28:07
while
28:07
I
28:08
was
28:08
there.
28:08
So
28:08
I
28:09
got
28:09
some
28:09
experience
28:09
there
28:10
and
28:10
that
28:10
definitely
28:10
helped
28:11
put
28:11
this
28:12
all
28:12
together.
28:12
So,
28:12
yeah,
28:13
thank
28:13
you
28:13
for
28:13
the
28:14
compliments
28:14
there,
28:15
Darren.
28:15
But
28:16
yeah,
28:16
it's
28:17
three
28:17
episodes.
28:18
Each
28:20
kind
28:20
of
28:20
follows
28:21
the
28:21
arc
28:21
of
28:23
George
28:23
Hallis
28:24
and
28:24
the
28:24
arc
28:25
of
28:25
World
28:25
War
28:25
I.
28:26
I
28:26
wanted
28:26
to
28:26
incorporate
28:27
the
28:27
history
28:28
of
28:28
the
28:28
war
28:29
and
28:30
why
28:30
it.
28:31
It
28:31
really
28:32
got
28:32
this
28:32
team
28:33
together
28:33
was
28:33
World
28:34
War
28:34
I.
28:34
If
28:34
there
28:34
was
28:35
no
28:35
World
28:35
War,
28:37
this
28:38
team
28:38
wouldn't
28:38
have
28:38
been
28:39
around.
28:39
And
28:40
who
28:40
knows
28:41
how
28:41
the
28:41
NFL
28:41
would
28:42
have
28:42
eventually
28:43
launched.
28:43
I
28:44
mean,
28:44
I
28:44
got
28:44
to
28:44
think
28:44
that
28:46
it
28:46
would
28:46
have
28:46
came
28:46
around
28:46
eventually,
28:47
but
28:47
I
28:47
don't
28:47
think
28:47
it
28:48
would
28:48
have
28:48
been
28:48
immediately
28:49
after
28:49
because
28:50
The
28:50
NFL
28:51
was
28:52
1920
28:53
from
28:54
the
28:54
Canton
28:56
car
28:56
dealership.
28:57
Is
28:57
that,
28:57
is
28:57
that
28:57
correct,
28:58
Darren?
28:58
Yeah,
28:58
yeah.
28:58
The
28:58
Hub
28:59
Mobile
28:59
showroom.
29:00
There
29:00
we
29:00
go.
29:00
So
29:01
that
29:02
was
29:02
1920
29:03
and
29:03
service
29:04
football
29:04
ended
29:04
January
29:05
1,
29:05
1919
29:06
for
29:06
the
29:06
first
29:06
time.
29:07
Came
29:07
back
29:07
during
29:08
World
29:08
War
29:08
II,
29:08
like
29:08
we
29:08
said.
29:09
So,
29:09
yeah,
29:10
I
29:10
mean,
29:10
I
29:11
wanted
29:11
to.
29:11
First
29:12
off,
29:12
you
29:12
know,
29:12
give
29:13
my
29:13
connection
29:13
to
29:14
the,
29:15
to
29:15
the
29:15
project,
29:16
hopefully
29:16
gets
29:17
the
29:17
listeners
29:17
in.
29:17
And
29:18
then
29:18
George
29:18
House
29:18
is
29:19
the
29:19
name,
29:19
so
29:20
it
29:20
really
29:20
centers
29:21
around
29:21
him
29:21
a
29:21
little
29:21
bit.
29:21
But
29:22
I
29:22
really
29:22
wanted
29:23
to
29:23
incorporate
29:24
World
29:24
War
29:24
I,
29:25
which
29:25
I
29:26
learned
29:26
about
29:26
as
29:27
well,
29:27
because
29:29
as
29:29
a,
29:29
as
29:30
a
29:30
country,
29:30
I
29:30
think
29:31
we're
29:31
kind
29:31
of,
29:32
I
29:33
mean,
29:33
we
29:33
had
29:33
a
29:33
bit,
29:33
much
29:34
bigger
29:34
hand
29:34
In
29:34
World
29:35
War
29:35
II,
29:36
the
29:37
United
29:37
States,
29:37
that
29:37
is.
29:38
And
29:38
I
29:38
mean,
29:39
I'm
29:39
sure,
29:40
I
29:40
mean,
29:40
my
29:41
grandparents
29:41
both
29:41
were
29:42
in
29:42
the
29:42
military
29:43
in
29:43
World
29:43
War
29:43
II.
29:44
I'm
29:44
sure
29:44
you
29:44
have
29:44
some
29:44
family
29:45
that
29:45
had
29:45
the
29:45
connection
29:46
there.
29:46
So
29:46
World
29:46
War
29:47
II,
29:47
I
29:47
think,
29:47
is
29:47
a
29:47
little
29:48
fresh
29:48
in
29:48
our
29:48
minds.
29:49
But
29:49
World
29:49
War
29:50
I,
29:50
I
29:50
think,
29:51
is
29:51
a
29:51
little
29:51
bit
29:51
overlooked.
29:53
So
29:53
I'm
29:53
glad
29:54
that
29:54
I
29:54
was
29:54
able
29:54
to
29:54
tell
29:55
that
29:55
story
29:55
as
29:56
well
29:56
from
29:57
pretty
29:57
much
29:58
from
29:58
the
29:58
US
29:58
Perspective
29:59
in
29:59
there.
29:59
But
29:59
I
29:59
wanted
29:59
to
30:00
get
30:00
the
30:00
whole
30:00
story
30:00
going
30:01
and
30:01
it
30:01
just
30:01
ties
30:02
to
30:02
the
30:02
Blue
30:02
Jackets
30:02
and
30:03
it
30:03
goes
30:03
all
30:03
the
30:03
way
30:04
from
30:05
there
30:05
to
30:05
winning
30:06
the
30:06
Rose
30:06
bowl
30:07
to
30:07
how
30:07
it
30:08
helped
30:08
launch
30:08
the
30:08
NFL,
30:09
which
30:09
was
30:09
really
30:10
the
30:10
fact
30:10
that
30:11
college
30:11
football
30:12
was
30:12
big,
30:12
but
30:13
colleges
30:14
back
30:14
in
30:14
the
30:14
day
30:15
were
30:16
not
30:17
easily
30:17
accessible,
30:19
so
30:19
it
30:19
was
30:20
kind
30:20
of
30:20
tough
30:20
to
30:21
have
30:21
school
30:21
pride.
30:22
But
30:22
when
30:22
the
30:23
military
30:23
came
30:23
around
30:24
with
30:24
these
30:24
service
30:25
teams
30:25
and
30:26
everyone
30:26
had
30:26
connections
30:27
to
30:27
the
30:27
military
30:28
and
30:29
sold
30:29
out
30:29
big
30:30
stadiums
30:31
and
30:31
was
30:31
able
30:32
to
30:32
bring
30:32
all
30:32
star
30:33
rosters
30:33
together,
30:34
it
30:34
really
30:34
showed
30:35
the,
30:36
the
30:36
American
30:36
public
30:37
that
30:37
this
30:37
could
30:37
work.
30:38
That's
30:38
really
30:38
the
30:39
takeaway
30:39
from
30:39
the
30:40
project.
30:40
And
30:41
yeah,
30:41
it
30:41
helped
30:41
launch
30:42
the
30:42
NFL.
30:42
And
30:44
yeah,
30:44
I
30:44
think,
30:45
I
30:45
think
30:45
it's
30:45
a
30:45
cool
30:46
story
30:46
for
30:46
anyone
30:46
who
30:46
likes
30:47
sports.
30:47
Anyone
30:47
who
30:48
likes,
30:48
you
30:48
know,
30:49
sports
30:49
history,
30:49
military
30:50
history.
30:51
I'm
30:51
a
30:52
fan
30:52
of
30:52
both
30:52
of
30:52
those,
30:52
so
30:53
I
30:53
think
30:54
I
30:54
was
30:54
the
30:54
perfect
30:54
person
30:55
to
30:55
tell
30:55
the
30:55
story.
30:56
And
30:56
yeah,
30:57
I'm
30:57
happy
30:57
with
30:58
the
30:58
end
30:58
result.
30:58
Yeah,
30:59
I
30:59
think
30:59
you
31:00
are
31:00
now,
31:00
I
31:00
guess.
31:00
Before
31:01
we
31:01
let
31:01
you
31:01
go,
31:02
do
31:02
you
31:02
have
31:02
any
31:03
future
31:03
plans
31:04
or
31:04
thoughts
31:04
of
31:04
maybe
31:05
doing
31:05
any
31:05
more
31:05
projects
31:06
like
31:06
this?
31:07
Yeah,
31:07
that's
31:07
a
31:07
great
31:08
question.
31:09
Currently,
31:10
I'm
31:10
still
31:10
riding
31:11
the
31:12
the
31:12
project
31:12
is
31:13
done,
31:13
let's
31:13
chill
31:14
out
31:14
kind
31:14
of
31:14
mindset.
31:17
So,
31:18
yeah,
31:19
I'm
31:19
kind
31:19
of
31:19
sitting
31:19
around.
31:20
I'm
31:20
not,
31:20
I
31:20
haven't
31:21
figured
31:21
out
31:21
what
31:21
the
31:21
next
31:21
move
31:22
is.
31:22
I
31:23
like,
31:23
for
31:23
my
31:23
civilian
31:24
job,
31:24
currently
31:25
I
31:25
do
31:25
videography.
31:28
But
31:28
I
31:28
also,
31:29
my
31:29
old
31:30
civilian
31:30
job,
31:31
I
31:31
did
31:31
a
31:31
lot
31:31
of
31:32
photography
31:32
and
31:33
graphic
31:33
design
31:33
and
31:34
videography,
31:34
so
31:34
I
31:34
kind
31:35
of
31:35
missed
31:35
those
31:35
things.
31:35
So
31:35
I
31:36
kind
31:36
of
31:36
tried
31:36
to
31:36
get
31:36
back
31:36
in
31:37
there
31:37
with,
31:38
with
31:38
some
31:38
of
31:38
the
31:38
projects.
31:39
But
31:39
I
31:39
mean,
31:39
I,
31:40
I,
31:40
I
31:40
do
31:41
like
31:41
what
31:41
this
31:42
turned
31:42
out
31:43
and
31:44
it
31:44
would
31:44
be
31:44
cool
31:44
if
31:45
I
31:45
could
31:45
do
31:45
a
31:45
Jackie's
31:46
Part
31:46
two.
31:47
I
31:47
mean,
31:47
I
31:48
had
31:48
all
31:48
my
31:48
notes
31:48
ready
31:49
for
31:49
You,
31:49
Darren,
31:50
for
31:50
the
31:50
next
31:50
project
31:51
about.
31:51
Tell
31:51
me
31:51
about
31:52
the
31:52
World
31:52
War
31:52
II
31:52
team.
31:52
But
31:53
I,
31:53
I
31:53
kind
31:53
of
31:54
gave
31:54
the
31:55
details
31:55
on
31:55
that
31:56
a
31:56
little
31:56
bit
31:56
earlier
31:57
in
31:57
the
31:57
episode,
31:57
so
31:58
I
31:58
think
31:58
that's
31:59
one
31:59
that
31:59
could
31:59
probably
32:00
be
32:00
told.
32:01
The
32:01
World
32:01
War
32:01
II
32:01
era.
32:02
I
32:02
don't
32:02
know
32:02
if
32:02
it
32:03
would
32:03
need
32:03
more
32:03
episodes
32:04
or
32:05
whatever
32:05
it
32:06
might
32:06
be,
32:06
but
32:07
yeah,
32:07
I'll
32:07
call
32:08
you
32:08
when
32:08
I
32:08
need
32:08
some
32:08
more.
32:09
Some
32:09
more.
32:09
Some
32:10
more
32:10
sound
32:10
clips
32:11
if
32:11
I
32:11
get
32:11
started
32:11
on
32:12
that
32:12
one.
32:12
Hey,
32:13
well,
32:13
you
32:13
know
32:13
where
32:13
to
32:14
find
32:14
me
32:14
and
32:14
you
32:14
know
32:14
where
32:14
to
32:15
find
32:15
everybody
32:15
else.
32:15
I'm
32:15
sure
32:16
everybody
32:16
would
32:16
be
32:16
excited
32:16
about
32:17
that
32:17
one
32:18
as
32:18
well.
32:18
So
32:19
why
32:19
don't
32:19
you
32:19
give
32:19
us
32:19
the
32:20
title
32:20
of.
32:20
Of
32:21
your
32:21
series
32:21
and
32:22
once
32:22
again,
32:22
where
32:23
they
32:23
can
32:23
find
32:23
it.
32:24
Yeah.
32:24
So
32:25
Jackie's
32:26
the
32:26
Story
32:26
of
32:26
George
32:27
hallis
32:27
in
32:28
the
32:28
1918
32:28
Naval
32:29
Station
32:29
Great
32:29
Lakes
32:30
Blue
32:30
Jackets.
32:31
You
32:32
can
32:32
get
32:32
it
32:32
on
32:32
wherever
32:33
you
32:33
get
32:33
your
32:33
podcast.
32:34
Our
32:35
friend
32:35
Arnie
32:36
from
32:36
Sports
32:37
History
32:37
Network
32:38
really
32:38
has
32:38
it
32:39
organized
32:39
well
32:40
and
32:41
he
32:41
got
32:41
it
32:41
set
32:42
up.
32:42
I'm
32:42
very
32:43
fortunate
32:43
that
32:43
he
32:44
was
32:44
able
32:44
to
32:44
help
32:44
because
32:44
that's
32:45
a
32:45
whole
32:45
nother
32:45
task
32:46
in
32:46
the
32:46
podcast
32:47
world
32:47
if
32:47
you
32:47
got
32:47
to
32:47
get
32:48
that
32:48
going.
32:48
So
32:49
check
32:49
it
32:49
out
32:49
wherever
32:49
you
32:50
get
32:50
to
32:50
your
32:50
podcast.
32:51
I
32:51
just
32:51
want
32:51
to
32:51
throw
32:51
a
32:51
fun
32:51
fact
32:52
out
32:52
there
32:52
that
32:53
if
32:53
you
32:54
see
32:54
the
32:54
podcast
32:55
art
32:56
that
32:56
is
32:57
actually
32:57
not
32:57
George
32:57
Hallis
32:58
on
32:58
the
32:58
art,
32:58
that
32:58
is
32:59
running
32:59
back
33:00
Harry
33:00
Eilson.
33:01
I
33:01
believe
33:01
he
33:01
was
33:01
a
33:02
running
33:02
back
33:02
for
33:02
the.
33:02
For
33:03
the
33:03
Blue
33:03
Jackets,
33:03
but,
33:05
yeah,
33:05
that's
33:05
him.
33:05
There's
33:06
very
33:06
little
33:07
photo
33:07
evidence
33:07
of
33:08
this
33:08
team,
33:09
and
33:10
so
33:10
he's
33:11
on
33:11
the
33:11
COVID
33:11
So
33:11
it's
33:11
not
33:12
George
33:12
Hallis.
33:12
You
33:13
might
33:13
think
33:13
it
33:13
is,
33:14
but
33:14
there's
33:14
really
33:15
little
33:15
photographic
33:16
evidence
33:16
of
33:16
anything.
33:17
1918
33:17
Cray
33:18
Lakes
33:18
Blue
33:18
Jacket.
33:19
So
33:20
just
33:20
want
33:20
to.
33:20
Just
33:21
want
33:21
to
33:21
do
33:21
a
33:21
little
33:21
disclaimer.
33:22
I
33:23
don't
33:23
think
33:23
it
33:23
ruins
33:23
anything,
33:24
but
33:25
that's.
33:26
That's
33:26
a
33:26
different
33:27
character.
33:27
Definitely
33:28
gives
33:28
it
33:28
a
33:28
nostalgic
33:29
feel
33:29
of
33:29
the
33:30
podcast.
33:30
So
33:31
that's
33:31
a
33:31
good
33:32
segue
33:32
into
33:33
the
33:33
podcast.
33:33
So
33:34
awesome.
33:34
Yeah,
33:35
Very
33:35
good
33:36
iconology
33:36
of
33:37
it.
33:38
All
33:39
right,
33:39
well,
33:39
Dan
33:39
Charess,
33:39
we
33:40
really
33:40
appreciate
33:40
you
33:40
joining
33:41
us
33:41
and
33:41
telling
33:42
us
33:42
about
33:42
this
33:42
bit
33:43
of
33:43
history
33:43
of
33:43
football
33:44
history
33:44
from
33:44
World
33:45
War
33:45
I
33:45
and
33:46
this
33:46
blue
33:47
Jackets
33:47
team
33:47
and
33:48
your
33:48
podcast
33:48
series,
33:49
Jackie's.
33:49
And
33:50
we'd
33:50
love
33:50
to
33:51
talk
33:51
to
33:51
you
33:51
more
33:51
about
33:51
football
33:52
again
33:53
sometime
33:53
soon.
33:54
And
33:54
hopefully
33:54
you
33:54
do
33:55
that.
33:55
Do
33:55
that
33:55
Jackie's,
33:56
too.
33:56
Cause
33:56
we'd
33:57
love
33:57
to
33:57
hear
33:57
that.
33:58
Give
33:58
me
33:59
a
33:59
few
33:59
years.
33:59
Maybe
34:00
another
34:00
master's
34:00
degree
34:01
for
34:01
that
34:01
one
34:01
or
34:01
something,
34:01
Darren.
34:02
But
34:02
yeah,
34:03
thanks
34:03
for.
34:03
Thanks
34:03
for,
34:04
again
34:04
for
34:04
helping
34:04
with
34:04
the
34:04
project
34:05
and
34:05
for
34:05
having
34:05
me
34:05
on
34:06
here.
34:07
And
34:07
I'm
34:07
excited
34:08
to
34:08
check
34:08
out,
34:08
you
34:08
know,
34:08
more
34:09
episodes
34:09
and
34:09
more,
34:10
more
34:10
works
34:11
from
34:11
you.
34:11
You
34:11
know,
34:11
get
34:12
get
34:12
some
34:12
of
34:12
these
34:13
books
34:13
that
34:13
you've
34:13
been
34:13
doing.
34:14
Keep
34:14
up
34:14
the
34:14
good
34:15
work.
34:16
That's
34:16
all
34:16
the
34:16
football
34:17
history
34:17
we
34:17
have
34:17
today.
34:18
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34:18
Join
34:18
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34:19
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34:19
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34:19
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34:19
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34:20
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34:20
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34:20
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34:21
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34:23
We
34:23
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34:23
you
34:23
to
34:23
check
34:24
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34:24
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34:24
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34:24
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34:26
not
34:27
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34:27
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34:27
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34:27
the
34:28
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34:28
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34:28
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34:29
but
34:29
to
34:29
experience
34:30
positive
34:30
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34:31
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34:31
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34:31
many
34:31
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34:32
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34:32
the
34:32
good
34:33
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34:33
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34:33
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34:33
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34:34
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34:34
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34:34
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34:34
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34:35
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34:35
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34:36
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34:46
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34:47
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34:47
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34:48
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34:48
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34:49
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34:49
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34:50
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34:50
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34:50
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34:50
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34:50
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34:51
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34:51
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34:51
Monroe
34:52
as
34:52
well
34:52
as
34:52
Jason
34:53
Neff
34:53
for
34:53
letting
34:53
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34:54
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34:54
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34:54
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34:54
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34:55
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34:55
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34:57
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34:57
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34:58
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34:58
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34:58
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