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Diann Valentine on Wedding Costs and Family Expectations | Ep. 19 · Mathis Family Talks

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  Speaker 1: The bride expects all of her bridesmaids to spend $ 1, 000
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  Speaker 1: on their dresses, plus pay for a destination bachelorette weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Is that justified or is that don't? Yeah, I say justified.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's fair to ask. You gotta be, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta suck it up and say you can't pay if
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  Speaker 2: you can't pay.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely doing too much.
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  Speaker 4: Really?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 3: I do not want to wear your dress. This is
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  Speaker 3: my thing. I tell clients this all the time.
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  Speaker 6: If you cannot afford to pay for the expenses of
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  Speaker 6: your wedding party, then don't have any bridesmaids and don't
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  Speaker 6: have any groomsmen.
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  Speaker 2: I've been hoodwinked. They ain't never had nobody pay for
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  Speaker 2: my stuff.
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  Speaker 6: If I'm your friend and you're getting married in Ibiza, right?
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  Speaker 6: You're my friend, so I'm coming, right? I'm going to
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  Speaker 6: pay for the ticket. I'm going to get me a
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  Speaker 6: hotel room. I'm going to be there standing right by
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  Speaker 6: your side. I should not have to pay.
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  Speaker 3: The expenses to be in your wedding. Because guess what?
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  Speaker 3: I don't even need to be in your wedding.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Judge Greg Matthews.
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  Speaker 7: And I am Linda Mathis.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Mathis Family.
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  Speaker 7: Talks.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to Mathis Family Talks. I'm Linda Mathis, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm here with my daughter, Kamara, and my son, Gregory.
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  Speaker 5: And we're here to talk to a very.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still here also.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, and I'm here.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I might be the one standing up and sweaty because I.
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  Speaker 1: Rushed today, but.
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  Speaker 5: I am so sorry for that, son.
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  Speaker 7: I will never forget my baby.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 7: Yes. Amir is here with us also.
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  Speaker 5: But we have somebody really special with us today who's
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  Speaker 5: a very dear friend of mine.
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  Speaker 3: And we have with us Diane Valentine. My favorite Hollywood fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited for this conversation.
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  Speaker 5: I'm so excited to have you here. And I want
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  Speaker 5: to tell you all a little bit about Diane. Diane
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  Speaker 5: wears many, many hats.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Literally and figuratively.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, the beautiful hat she wears.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we were going to get one today, but
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  Speaker 2: she wanted to show off that beautiful hair instead. If
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  Speaker 2: you had an opportunity to do a one-minute Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: commercial about Diane Valentine, how would it go?
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  Speaker 3: How would it go? That's a great question. Listen, I'm
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  Speaker 3: praying for that one minute on the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 7: She will take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Linda's my girl. That's why I asked, right?
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  Speaker 3: Linda's my girl, so she knows I am never at
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  Speaker 3: a loss of words. I always got something to say. No,
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  Speaker 3: but my one minute.
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  Speaker 7: Wait a minute, she tells me she's shy. I am!
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  Speaker 2: Y'all both share that in common. I am! She tells
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  Speaker 2: me she's shy, and I'm.
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  Speaker 8: Like, well.
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  Speaker 7: And neither one of y'all are.
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  Speaker 2: I really am.
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  Speaker 3: I really am, but.
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  Speaker 6: My commercial would be an ode to women, to women
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  Speaker 6: that wear protective styles, to women that want to wear
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  Speaker 6: protective styles, because the reality is that I started Slay
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  Speaker 6: Hair so that we could stop normalizing.
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  Speaker 3: Scalp itching and irritation and all of that. And there
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  Speaker 3: you go.
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  Speaker 6: And hopefully that one-minute commercial would get us at least, what,
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  Speaker 6: five million orders?
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  Speaker 2: Okay. I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Let's back it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I was going.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's back it up.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: How did you get into, I know, wedding planning?
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  Speaker 9: My first time seeing you, I remember, was Tamara, no,
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  Speaker 9: on the OC.
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  Speaker 3: Tamara Barney. Yeah, just on TV. And I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this lady is fabulous. Yes, I was a big Girl
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  Speaker 3: Housewives fan.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, now, who was this?
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  Speaker 4: That's one of the Housewives.
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  Speaker 5: And it's so funny because when you were going to
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  Speaker 5: get married, you told me, I want Diane Valentine.
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  Speaker 7: You didn't want anybody else but Diane Valentine.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know this. We didn't know each other then.
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  Speaker 2: That's when we became friends from that wedding.
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  Speaker 3: Let's back it up.
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  Speaker 4: We can make a career.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let the viewers know. How did you get into
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  Speaker 3: wedding planning?
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  Speaker 6: You know, I started my career in high school. So
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  Speaker 6: I was a senior in high school. I was still
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  Speaker 6: living in Oakland. And my cousin was getting married. She
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  Speaker 6: lived in L.A.
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  Speaker 3: And she's like, Diane, can you help me plan my wedding?
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  Speaker 3: I need some help.
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  Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, girl, I don't have nothing
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  Speaker 6: else to do. And I loved it so much. I
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  Speaker 6: just really fell in love with love. And the goal
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  Speaker 6: was for me to, you know, go to undergraduate school
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  Speaker 6: and then go to law school.
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  Speaker 8: Get a law degree.
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  Speaker 6: I always wanted to be a litigator. Again, I always
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  Speaker 6: got something to say. Happy to debate anything. And while
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  Speaker 6: I was in college and undergrad, I just truly just
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  Speaker 6: fell in love with love. And so when I finished,
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  Speaker 6: I thought, well, let me just hang my hat on
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  Speaker 6: this love thing and see where it takes me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 9: And so were you doing weddings for just friends at
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  Speaker 9: first or how did you get your clientele?
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  Speaker 6: So my my client, my cousin was my first client.
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  Speaker 6: And my first wedding after I moved to L.A. was
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  Speaker 6: actress Lila Rashad. And I met with her and I said,
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  Speaker 6: there is no way.
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  Speaker 3: That Lela's going to hire me. There's no way. There's
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  Speaker 3: no way she's going to hire me.
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  Speaker 6: Like, she's like Lela Rashan. And I'm like, little bitty
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  Speaker 6: Diane just moved to LA.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody knew anything about me.
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  Speaker 6: But she was really nice and she was really sweet.
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  Speaker 6: And we had a great meeting. And then I didn't
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  Speaker 6: hear from her for like eight months.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 6: So I was like, oh, I'm sure she hired the,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the very popular white guy from New York.
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  Speaker 3: I knew she wasn't going to hire me, but she
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  Speaker 3: was fabulous. I love her.
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  Speaker 6: And then one day she called me. And she said, Valentine,
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  Speaker 6: we only have four months. Are you ready to do this?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, my God.
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  Speaker 2: I just like her, too.
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  Speaker 3: And that started it.
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  Speaker 5: And you can tell us a little further, because not
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  Speaker 5: only did you do her wedding, but what's it shown on?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yes. Oh, my God. I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 6: So her wedding was one of the first black weddings
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  Speaker 6: to be on InStyle Celebrity Wedding Special. And so I
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  Speaker 6: think in this town and in the city, you know,
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  Speaker 6: women were like, oh, my God, you know, you do
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  Speaker 6: the amazing work. You do great work. Oh, and you're black, too.
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  Speaker 6: So it was like a sense of pride that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: black women in Hollywood got by saying, I'm not hiring
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  Speaker 6: her because she's black. I'm hiring her because she's dope.
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  Speaker 6: But the fact that she's black, now I don't have.
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  Speaker 3: To explain why we need hot sauce.
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  Speaker 4: On the table.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have to make excuses because we want mac
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  Speaker 6: and cheese and fried chicken.
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  Speaker 3: After Lila, it was just a snowball effect. And it
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  Speaker 3: happens instantly.
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  Speaker 9: I also feel like your weddings are very unique and
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  Speaker 9: you're very creative. Kind of like you said, you wanted
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  Speaker 9: someone who looked outside the box. Were you always creative
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  Speaker 9: growing up?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's so interesting because I was always just different.
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  Speaker 6: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And when you're different, before you become successful, you're just weird.
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 3: People just think you're weird.
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  Speaker 6: So I was popular because I was different and I
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  Speaker 6: always had a big mouth.
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  Speaker 3: But I was also a little weird.
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  Speaker 2: And sorry to interrupt, but when you say different, do
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  Speaker 2: you mean like fashion, the way you talk?
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  Speaker 6: No, a lot.
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  Speaker 2: You dressed in high school. What is this different? It
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  Speaker 2: was that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I was blonde. I was wearing my hair
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  Speaker 3: blonde before it was a thing.
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  Speaker 4: I would go to school.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have a feather in one ear. My first car
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  Speaker 3: was a Volkswagen Rabbit. Always fit up. I cut it
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  Speaker 3: in half and painted half of it hot pink. You're different.
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  Speaker 7: For sure, you're different.
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  Speaker 2: For all you who don't know Diane Valentine, you.
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  Speaker 7: Need to go to her Instagram and look at that.
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  Speaker 4: Because this woman is fabulous.
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  Speaker 3: You're so sweet.
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  Speaker 5: You got this one right here who took all that
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  Speaker 5: out of my pocket.
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  Speaker 4: All of that.
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  Speaker 5: Because she said she had to have Diane and she
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  Speaker 5: had to be on the mountaintop and Malibu.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and then you got addicted because Diane designed your
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  Speaker 2: entire home. My home. Again, it's gorgeous. It's so creative
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  Speaker 2: when you walk in.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't have anybody else.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, why would I go to somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Else when I have Diane right here? But we can
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  Speaker 2: get to all of that in a little bit. You
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  Speaker 2: said you had something else to ask?
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  Speaker 3: No, she was blaming me for her pocket.
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  Speaker 2: Stop kidding. And the truth is true.
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  Speaker 3: Better you than me.
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  Speaker 5: It was a beautiful wedding for Diane Warren.
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  Speaker 3: You had a time.
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  Speaker 7: I did.
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  Speaker 5: She said, this place is going to be very difficult
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  Speaker 5: because you have to bring everything in.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 7: And we had, it was one day, then we had
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  Speaker 7: to pay for another day.
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  Speaker 3: We had to pay for a second day.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was just horrible. It was impossible. But it
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  Speaker 4: was a It was.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, did it go so late we had to pay
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  Speaker 2: for two days?
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  Speaker 3: No, we just couldn't get everything out. Then once you
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  Speaker 3: got out by midnight, so we had to cover the pool.
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  Speaker 2: We could have had a brunch there. So you did
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  Speaker 2: Kamara's wedding.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You've done, who, like Usher's wedding, I think. Didn't you
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  Speaker 2: do Usher's wedding also? Tony Braxton's wedding.
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  Speaker 7: Yep, all the- Martin Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: Martin Lawrence's wedding. I've been- Ray J, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Ray J. Yeah. How was Kamara after dealing with all
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  Speaker 2: those Hollywood heavyweights?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Kamara was a breeze.
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  Speaker 4: How was her mother?
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  Speaker 3: She's so easygoing.
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  Speaker 6: She really was not like bridezilla at all. I felt
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  Speaker 6: like she was... I felt like in many ways, and
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  Speaker 6: I could be wrong, but it kind of felt like
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  Speaker 6: it was Linda's wedding versus your wedding.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, I.
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  Speaker 9: Well, first, I just had a baby, so I had... Like,
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  Speaker 9: Nora wasn't even one. She might have been like three
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  Speaker 9: or four months. I remember us going to see the
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  Speaker 9: venue and she was like in the little carrier. And
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  Speaker 9: so I was just like, I just trust her. It's
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  Speaker 9: going to be pretty. I knew I went to the
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  Speaker 9: location I wanted. I knew the guest list. But I
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  Speaker 9: was just like, When it came to all the little things,
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  Speaker 9: I wasn't going to be a bridezilla about it because
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  Speaker 9: I kind of just trusted you and the vision.
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  Speaker 5: And see, we have the same personality because even though
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  Speaker 5: you said it seemed like my wedding, I was never
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  Speaker 5: a mother who, oh.
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  Speaker 7: I can't wait to plan this beautiful wedding and whatever, whatever.
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  Speaker 7: So I kind of went with the flow.
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  Speaker 6: You did.
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  Speaker 7: And went by your suggestions.
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  Speaker 5: And sometimes I had to go, no, I can't do that.
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  Speaker 5: But it was so many great ideas. I didn't feel pressure.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't feel like I was, didn't have, I didn't
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  Speaker 5: need to have ideas.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure the answer is yes, but have you ever
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  Speaker 2: had a situation where it didn't go as perfectly as
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  Speaker 2: Kamara's day went? Oh, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: Of course.
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  Speaker 7: Tell us about that.
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  Speaker 2: Can you share? Not to name names. Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God. So here's the thing. This is what
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  Speaker 3: I always tell people is that.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever goes wrong, No one knows it's going wrong because
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  Speaker 6: in the eyes of the guests, this is the way
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  Speaker 6: it was supposed to be anyway. So I've never had
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  Speaker 6: like a major disaster, but I've certainly, I mean, every single,
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  Speaker 6: every freaking wedding, there is something different.
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  Speaker 3: Drastic, including Kamara.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, some things you can't control.
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  Speaker 2: You planned hers perfectly. It was the hottest day of
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  Speaker 2: the year. It was the hottest day of the year.
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  Speaker 8: It was the hottest day of the year.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to name names, but what went through
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  Speaker 2: your mind when that one guest fainted at the wedding?
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: No, she said, I just knew.
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  Speaker 2: They fainted from the heat.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, and this happens every single wedding, right? You get
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  Speaker 3: down to the wire. You are grossly over budget, right?
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  Speaker 3: And you're in a panic. And you're like, okay, what
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  Speaker 3: do we cut?
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  Speaker 6: Because Linda was like, Diane, we are way over budget.
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  Speaker 3: We couldn't.
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  Speaker 7: Diane said, we need umbrellas.
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  Speaker 3: I said, we need umbrellas, Linda. It's going to be hot.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be hot. I said, you can get
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  Speaker 2: this many.
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  Speaker 4: She said, we're going to need some more. We need more, Linda.
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  Speaker 6: I said, Linda, it's going to be hot. She said,
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  Speaker 6: cut them umbrellas and that furniture.
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  Speaker 3: I said, ooh.
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  Speaker 2: The day of, I thought you were regretting that.
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  Speaker 4: Like, it's hot.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I feel so bad, yes.
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  Speaker 6: We had Reverend Jesse Jackson who did the ceremony and
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  Speaker 6: Kamara's dad.
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  Speaker 7: And it was hot.
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  Speaker 5: So we got Reverend Jackson a chair to sit in.
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  Speaker 4: You guys were hot.
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  Speaker 3: I said, I was excited. I just knew Reverend Jackson
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  Speaker 3: was going to fame.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But after we made our cuts, I told my team, okay,
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  Speaker 6: this is what we do. I ain't going to even
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  Speaker 6: ask Linda. She's going to yell at me. I was like,
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  Speaker 6: go to the dollar store, get like 300 white, you know,
• 12:01
  Speaker 6: like washcloths. Just get me the washcloth kind, right? And
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  Speaker 6: get some essential oils. So we soaked them all in
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  Speaker 6: ice water and essential oil and we just had them
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  Speaker 6: wrapped up in the freezer because I was like, we're
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  Speaker 6: going to need it. Like something is going to go
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  Speaker 6: down and we're going to need it.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that problem solving. That's that producing. That's that
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  Speaker 3: production level.
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  Speaker 2: How do you deal with guests when you know something
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  Speaker 2: might be a really bad look and you cannot come
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  Speaker 2: to agreement and it's like almost your brand is on
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  Speaker 2: the line also?
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  Speaker 3: It's very difficult.
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  Speaker 6: And I'll say the hardest part of my job which
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  Speaker 6: is why I started the beauty businesses, is spending other
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  Speaker 6: people's money. That is the most difficult thing because I
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  Speaker 6: know what needs to happen, right?
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  Speaker 3: And, I mean, let's be honest. My clients, they not broke.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. So I'm just like there's a higher expectation when
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  Speaker 6: people come to their events.
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  Speaker 3: For sure. So I'm thinking about all of those things.
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  Speaker 7: I was broke after that wedding.
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  Speaker 2: I was broke. You said, let me get some of
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  Speaker 2: that hair business, too, please.
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  Speaker 4: It was worth it.
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  Speaker 5: It was worth it.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I've had to tell a couple of clients, like,
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  Speaker 6: where it comes down to, like, if we don't do this,
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  Speaker 6: it's going to be a disaster.
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  Speaker 3: Where I've had to tell a client, you know what?
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  Speaker 6: If by now you don't trust me, if we're at
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  Speaker 6: the ninth hour and we're 90% there and you still
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  Speaker 6: don't trust me, then fire me and send me home.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm not going to deal with a disaster.
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  Speaker 7: But I really trusted everything you did.
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  Speaker 6: I did.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you did.
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  Speaker 8: It was fabulous.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that.
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  Speaker 7: Evening, I don't think I had to come to you
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  Speaker 7: for anything.
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  Speaker 3: Because you was... I hope not. I hope not. I
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  Speaker 3: don't even think we ever talked about it.
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  Speaker 4: You came to me because it was so hot.
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  Speaker 7: What did the cake start to do?
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  Speaker 4: The cake started to bounce.
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  Speaker 2: It was bouncing.
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  Speaker 4: It was bouncing.
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  Speaker 3: It was bouncing.
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  Speaker 4: It was bouncing.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: It was bouncing. What did you do?
• 13:56
  Speaker 6: I called the baker and I was like, get your
• 13:59
  Speaker 6: ass back to Malibu.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: Right now.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: They were like, what's going on?
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: I said, get back to Malibu now.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: See, those are all.
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: The things that happen.
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: I had to step.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: In the kitchen. I was like, forget this meal. Get
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: out here to this kitchen.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: We got another problem right now.
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: We were putting it back together. I was like, oh
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: my God.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: So funny.
• 14:23
  Speaker 9: But is there anything like, big that someone wanted to
• 14:25
  Speaker 9: do you're like how can we do this and from
• 14:27
  Speaker 9: a production standpoint because it becomes like a movie I
• 14:29
  Speaker 9: mean like.
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: A television production it is for sure when Sean Stockman
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: of Boyz II Men got married um I came I
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: had a dream so for them they just wanted a
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: great party they were like Diane we've been together for
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: so long just give us a great party so I
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: had a dream one night about people like dancing on.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Water and so when I woke up I was like
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: oh Oh, my God, that's it.
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: And so I came up with this idea to do
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: a fish tank dance floor for them.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: And they loved it. They loved the idea. And here's
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: It's like once you give clients a cost for something
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: that you produce, that I produce, I can't go back
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: and be like, oh, it's actually double that cost.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: So I'd given them a cost to do the dance floor.
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: What I did not anticipate is the amount of R &
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: D it was going to take to create it. And
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: then where they got married, the hotel was freaking out
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: so bad. We carried, normally we carried $ 2 million in
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: liability insurance. They made us get $ 5 million in liability
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: because they thought that the pressure of the water was
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: going to cave in the floor and it was going
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: to fall down to the floor. So I had to
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: hire a structural engineer to come on board and to
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: do all this testing of the floor and capacity and
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: how much the water was going to weigh.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: They wanted this done. It was extraordinary. And then, you know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: and I couldn't go back to them and be.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: Like, I know I told you it was going to
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: be $ 30, 000, but it was really $ 60, 000.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: And that was my loss.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: Because I felt so strongly about that moment. I was like,
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: it's going to be a big moment. Like, we have
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: to do it. We have to do it. And in
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: the end, it was incredible. But, you know, we made
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: it in modules, right? So then I didn't think about
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: this at the time, but water isn't blue.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Water is clear.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: It sure is.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: Water is clear.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: So now we had to color the water. We had
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: to make it blue so it looked like it was blue.
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: But we had to have the exact same amount of
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: coloring in each module.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: To make it all.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: So it looked like one piece of water.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: And then if you put water in a tank and,
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: you know, it's like a floor, you don't know it's
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: water if.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: It's not moving.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Because it's water that still looks like glass.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: So then we had to create pumps. that we had
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: to run through each module so.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: That it could all move.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: And then it was like, well, how do you get
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: the water to move? How do you get the water
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: to move? Just because you got the pump there.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: If you're constantly filling it up or flowing out or something.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: So then we added goldfish into the modules because the
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: fish created the movement so that you realized you were
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: walking and dancing on water.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: So It was fabulous.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody loved it. It was incredible.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: The next, during the wedding, I had PETA protesting outside.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Because of the fish? Because of the fish.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Did they throw paint on anybody?
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Could you believe that? Why? We were in Toledo, Ohio.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Because of the fish. These fish are supposed to be
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: in water.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: My friend.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: How did you even know?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Wait, I was about to say, who called PETA in
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the first place? Who called PETA? Somebody at the hotel. Hey, look,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they got a bunch of goldfish up in here.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Toledo, Ohio.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Toledo, Ohio.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: And I said, listen, these goldfish are a small sacrifice
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: for good design.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Mmm.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: They'll be fine.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: They'll be fine.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: We'll flush them when it's over.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: And by the end of the night, or by the
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: next morning, all the little fish were kind of just floating.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because there was no oxygen to get in there.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's why Peta was there.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was mine.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: God bless her.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: We didn't see that.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: RIP to the fish.
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: We talked about your wedding designing and event planning, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: you are so much more. Thank you.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: You know, from a businesswoman. So tell us about that.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: The love shows you were a host on.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: And maybe the one that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: To Rome for Love, was it? Yeah, to Rome for Love.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: She had a few of them, though. I know you
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: love Italy.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: Yes, I've hosted five television shows.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Four of them were all in the wedding space. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: they were all, like, incredible shows. I just never had
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: a hit. So I had five one-season shows.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Sounds like us. Girl. You had a one-season show. It's okay.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: One one-season show, then no show. It's a lot more
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: than other people. It's a lot more than other people.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I am very proud of our one season.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: It just sharpens you and makes you ready for the
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: next adventure.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: So you think this podcast can make you better for
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the next one?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. Yeah.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: We got to make this one good.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about that one tomorrow for love.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Wait, wait, wait.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Let her continue.
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: I wanted to talk about that. Yeah, tomorrow for love because...
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: That was her heart.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: To Roam for Love was my dream job. It was
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: my dream job.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: It was about black women. It was about love.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: And it was in the country that I love so much.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: And the woman that created To Roam for Love is
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: actually the person who cast me as my first job
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: as a television host.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, and what's her name?
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Jackie Pittman.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: And so when she created To Roam for Love, she
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: created it with me in mind. And then they sold
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: it to Bravo.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: And when they sold it to Bravo, they were like,
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: here's our host, Diane Valentine.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And Bravo didn't agree with that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. Because they were like, yeah, she's good.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: She's cute. She can talk.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: But she's not a star they wanted one of the
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: real housewives to host it they wanted somebody that was
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: bigger that was more popular and so I had to
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: prove myself I had to prove it so when we
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: When we shot the pilot, I went to Italy.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: I did not get paid to shoot the pilot. I
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: provided my own wardrobe.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: I brought my own hair and makeup with me because
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: I knew that it was my show.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I knew that it was my show. And Bravo made
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: them go out.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: And like recast like 10 additional hosts because they were like, no,
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: we need somebody more popular.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: While you were going through all this. So you were
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: competing against people in your head. You're like, no, I
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: got to.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Get this right.
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: And then what the producers were saying, they were like, yes,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: there's more people out there that are more popular, but
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: they don't know love like Diane knows love.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: They don't know Italy like she knows Italy.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And how did you know love just because being around
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: weddings and seeing, had you been matchmaker before?
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: You know, I had started working in, let's see, you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: it wasn't professionally, but I had always kind of been
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: the girl that, you know, that. Gave love advice and
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: that hooked up my friends and just felt like you
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: making a bad decision because you're going to be divorced
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: in six months.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: I actually have only one client that I told not
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: to get married.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: I was going to say, do you feel that with
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: your clients? Because you're thinking about the love aspect.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I absolutely know when it's not going to work.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I've heard a lot of wedding planners say this.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Everybody always gets married. I should have had you over.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I should have had you out to eat with us
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: before I got married. Well, on that note.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Though, because I've heard a lot of wedding planners say that. Like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: how can you tell? Like, what have you seen that's like, oh, nope,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that's not going to work. Or maybe this is going
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to work. Like, what have you noticed?
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: So I had one client who her fiance was abusive.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: And I literally told her to cancel it. I was like,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: I'll make it go away.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Like, if you marry him.
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: He is going to, not only is he going to
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: continue hitting you, it's only going to get worse.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: And it did.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: And they separated 30 days later.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And you spoke up even though it's affecting your bottom line.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You're like, I ain't about the money. You need to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: be safe.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: It's the only time I told a client not to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: get married.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Because usually I mind my business.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: You might think it like, huh? Yeah, it's not my relationship. Girl,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you like him, I love him.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I think abuse is.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Let's just do the party.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Abuse is one of those things where it's.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Like, okay.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: We didn't get back to weddings. We were going to
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: hear about this Tarone for Love.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Because tell us about what the premise was on that show.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: So with Tarone for Love, I take five black women
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: out of the country to live together in a villa
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: for two months. And all of them had never been
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: out of the country. They had never been out of
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: the U.S. And they had never dated anyone other than
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: black men. And when the show was created, they didn't
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: know where to shoot it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, no, you have to go
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: to Italy. And they were like, why Italy? And I
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: was like, because Italians love black women. And Italy is
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: so diverse, too. It's really diverse.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: But black women, and let me be specific, black American
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: women are really a rarity in Italy. There's a lot
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: of African black women, but there's not a lot of
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: American black women.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: And, you know, I don't know. Some people say, oh,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: they see black women as a fetish.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I never experienced that at all.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: But I get so much attention when I'm in Italy
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: and in L.A.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I'm invisible.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I'm invisible.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: And that is the thing I think that a lot
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: of black women experience, particularly in America. Black women are
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: told we're too loud. We're too aggressive. we don't behave, right?
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: We're not submissive. Like we get all of these stereotypes
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: about who we just naturally are. And then you take
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: those same women and you put them in Italy and
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: Italian men go, I love a woman who's sure of herself.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, and Italian men just always
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: seem overconfident in themselves so they can handle it probably.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: They're very, you know.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: They love it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: And what I found is a difference is Italian women
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: are strong, aggressive, all of those things.
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: But they're kind of brought up to get married, have
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: a big family. You know, that's their culture, right? black
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: women often haven't had that luxury. So we're not raised
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: to just, you know, get married and have kids. We're
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: raised to have a career and make your own money and,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: you know, have your dreams and have your goals. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: so because of that, that's the difference. So Italian men
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: are used to our aggressiveness, but then they go, oh, wait.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: They like that. Oh, but she makes her own money.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: I like that.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Oh, you're home cooking.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: But she's a boss chick too.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Without giving away too many spoilers, where can people watch
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: this show? And... I guess, how was the mix when
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the ladies met some of the Italian men on the show?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Without giving away too much.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: You can still, you can, actually, it's airing right now.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Is it on Hulu?
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: Or Peacock or somewhere it's Aaron I know it.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Was on Bravo originally so it's probably on Peacock now
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: is where they put all.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Their content I've been getting a lot of like texts
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: and like comments online people saying Toronto Love is out
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: again I can't watch it again because it broke my
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: heart that wasn't what the second season what broke your
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: heart about it so the reason Bravo didn't bring it
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: back is because we got so much backlash really yes
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: from who from black women from black women oh yes
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: from black women saying that I was destroying the black family.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: And why was I telling black women to date these,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: you know, white boys and what was wrong with me?
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: And I was just like, wow.
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: You step into, I was just like, you step into Twitter.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: And I was just like, I was such, I'm such
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: an advocate for black women. Like I'm, I'm a girl's girl,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: you know, like.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I'm a champion for black women. Think what you want
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to think, but how can you tell a black woman
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: who she can and can't date at the end of
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the day? That's being a navigate for a black woman.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Have you all ever dated non-black? Anybody you want to share?
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I have. You have?
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying dating where I was in a serious relationship.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I don't remember that one.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I went on dates.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Dating, yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Ain't never brought one home.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Have you ever dated out of the black culture?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe a date, but nothing to you. I'm about to say, man.
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: We not gonna ask Amir.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Was that a date? Is that considered?
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I had a best friend in college and Greg went
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and slept with him. Never spoke to the man again.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: That's brothers for you.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because you've never done that to one of
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: your sister's friends.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I have not done that.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: I have not done that once. Maybe twice. Maybe twice.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Three times.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: He gets truly angry over here.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: But back then I did.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: A man is not your fault that you're highly desirable.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Diane, I want you to tell.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: Us why you picked Italy and tell us about your
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: connection to Italy.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: The first time I went to Italy, I was.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: probably 25 years old. And I took my daughter, we
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: went to Italy. And my first stop was Florence. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: it was love at first sight. It was love at
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: first sight. And I feel like in Italy, in particular,
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: because there's problems all over the world, right?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: I felt like it wasn't.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: The same kind of racial experience I had in the US, right?
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: In the US, we are black, Right. And there's nothing
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: that changes that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: And we are often judged by the color of our skin.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: In Italy, I find and in Europe, I find it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: more of a class system.
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: So if you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: Have money or you have status, it's different versus being
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: poor or working class. So thankfully, whenever I've been in
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Italy or whenever I'm in Europe, I travel well. I
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: have a beautiful life when I'm there. And so I'm
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: just treated well. And I don't, I can't say that
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: in the U.S. You know, I can't say that I
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: don't worry about my grandsons in the U.S.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: You know, we live here in L.A.
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: And My husband has been stopped so many times in
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: our neighborhood just driving home.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: That is crazy to me. And we kind of accept
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: it as like, oh, it's just normal.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I think we normalize it in our heads and we
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: allow it to hang over us. But to your point,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: when you travel to a place where that's not hanging
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: over you, it's a freedom because I know exactly what
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. I've had that similar feeling just being
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in Europe and feeling so carefree because I wasn't thinking
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: about some of.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Those same things.
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Well, I do know that one day I'm going to
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: lose my friend to Italy.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: One day, girl.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I have the apartment already picked up.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Yes, she's going.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: And so I know I'm going to have to put
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: my little frequent miles together and be able to fly.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: Over there and visit.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: You'll have a bedroom.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Where do we travel to, Diane?
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: We would. To Paris?
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: We went to Paris.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: We went to Paris for Fashion Week.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It was fabulous, yes.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: I tried to keep up on the fashions.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You did.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: And tried to step beside Diane.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: But it was hilarious. We would go places.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: And I have to say this over and over. Diane
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: is just really top notch.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Well, and me too.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: And the people would say, oh, gosh.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you're just beautiful.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I want to take.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: A picture with you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: And they would look at me and say, you're beautiful too.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: How was it?
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: I know you transitioned or you still do event planning, obviously,
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: but I know you also got into the entrepreneur space.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: of like product and like owning businesses.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: How is that? How was that transition?
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Or how was it different?
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, starting my beauty businesses is the hardest thing I've ever.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Done in my life.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: Big leap of faith.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: It is the hardest thing I have ever done.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: And what do you have? You have the Slay Hair.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: As well as.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: We have Slay Hair and then we have the beauty
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: retail location, right?
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: So we started in retail.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: And really it started because I started thinking about retirement.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: and really legacy, right? So what am I leaving behind?
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: What are people going to know me for? What are
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: they going to say? Are they going to say Diane
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: made a difference or Diane just did a bunch of
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: fancy parties, right? And I started thinking, you know, the
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: work that I do, thank God I'm at a point
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: now where I do like one, maybe two jobs a
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: year and that's it, right? And so with the work
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: that I do once or twice a year, I get
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: to work with these beautiful, sweet, extraordinary women you know, fancy,
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: wealthy girls. And I love that, right?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: But that's not impact.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I thought you were about to say white girls. Take
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it off your mind, son. No, she said, she said,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: she said, well, well, and I was like, what?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: But wealthy, okay. Wealthy girls.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Wealthy girls.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: But there's no, it's not a lot of impact there, right?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: And so, that's what kind of led me to beauty.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: Because I think that when you think about beauty, People
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: don't realize.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: That it's so much more than just looking good for
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: black women.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: Black women are in we are in a country that
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: has not always been so kind to us. And black
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: women are constantly looking for acceptance. I just want to
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: be able to live. You know, I just want to
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: be able to go to work and look nice and
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: not feel like I need to be something I'm not.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: And I say that from experience because every single television
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: show I've ever hosted ever, all five of them, once
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: I got the job, then it was time for the
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Diane Valentine makeover.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, we love you. We love that copper Afro. Maybe
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: you can straighten it. Maybe you can put it back.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: You know, maybe you, Maybe you could put some curls
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: in it. Essentially, they want me to look like a
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: Kardashian when I get on TV. And I've always adjusted
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: to that. So I understand that beauty is not just
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: about women wanting to look good. It is black women
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: need armor in order to survive in this America. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: part of that armor is beauty.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that take. With the change
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to this new space, you know, being more of a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: business owner and entrepreneur, Have you found that your creativity
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: has shifted? Because I just know with events and planning weddings,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: that's just a completely different type of creative outlet.
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering how you've used that or had to change
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that a bit within your new business.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: It has changed. And it's interesting because.
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: One of the decisions in going into beauty is I
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: wanted a business that did not include design. Because I'm
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: very passionate about things looking good.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: I want it to be best.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: I want it to look and be the best it
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: can be.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: So that makes me a bad business person.
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: Because I would spend my money all the time to
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: make the fish tank dance floor. I charge a client $ 30, 000.
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: It cost us $ 60, 000 to make it, but I had
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: to do it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Because you're more worried about the vision.
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: But I was more concerned about the vision and being
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: able to accomplish something that people say couldn't be done.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: So from a design perspective, I'm always making bad decisions
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: in business. So I wanted a business that would not
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: be about design. I wanted something that would be about
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: dollars and cents and how I could grow it and
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: scale it.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Ooh, that's got to be hard to turn that
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: side of your brain off, though.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: She did not turn it off.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: She did not turn it off.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: You know, we all go into beauty supply stores, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: they're just the basic, raw, sometimes concrete floors.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: The walls are like whatever.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, you don't see that at Floor & Go.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: But, you know, I was able to design it one time.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Now it's done. Yes.
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: So I'm not like every weekend. I'm not changing it.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: And I'm not always trying to reinvent it. I'm like, great,
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: that's done. Good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Let's move on.
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: For me, it's really about slay hair and taking back
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: an industry that black women built.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Yes, for sure.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: You talked about it being the hardest thing you've ever done.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: What's the most challenging parts or what have you?
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: And you're still not finished.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: What have you learned?
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: This is probably ongoing.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Ongoing.
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: I like that, but I can follow up to that also.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: No, really it is, you know, I started, I transitioned
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: into beauty, but about five years ago, so around 50
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: is when I said, I'm going to really make this
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: plunge into something new. And so at 50, my name
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: means something in certain rooms. And in a different industry,
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: in design, in weddings, in interiors, my name means something.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I'm respected. I'm highly respected. But then to say, okay,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I'm going to transition into beauty, no one cared.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: No one.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Your name didn't transition.
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: It meant nothing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: It still means nothing in most rooms in beauty, right?
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: So it was literally starting from the bottom. And that
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: was jarring, jarring for my ego, you know, for the
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: level of lifestyle I have, you know, grown accustomed to live.
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: It's the hardest thing I've ever had to do. Not
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: to mention I invested, you know, a trunk load of
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: money that I thought was going to be plenty.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: You know, we started Slay with a half a million dollars.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: And I was like, that's going to be plenty.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to be able to grow it.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: I'm going to scale it. We'll be at 30 million
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: a year in no time.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: And it went so fast. It went so fast. And
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: it's just not enough.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And it's like what you don't know. And also people
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: raising money and capital all the time.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: That's when product, the product industry is a lot harder
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: than what people.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Think it is.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: It's incredibly hard. It's incredibly hard. So three years in,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: We're still 100% self-funded.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: So I guess, did you ask, would you have done
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: things different? Is there anything you would have done differently,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I guess?
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: Probably 90% of my decisions would have been different.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: And that's stuff you learn as you go. Yeah, you
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: don't know. You don't know what you don't know. And
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: I don't care how many books you read. I don't
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: care how many people you talk to.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: Until you are doing it, until you are faced with
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: those decisions, you go road A, you go road B.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: And you hope and pray you're making the right decision.
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: And more often than not, I was making bad decisions
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: and just didn't know. Right. I had a successful business,
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: but I'd never produced a product. You know, I had
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: no idea what kind of issues I could deal with.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: You know, for example, we manufacture in China. Right.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Tariffs probably hit you. Tariffs.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: So when Trump put a hundred and forty five percent
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: tariff on China, we had a huge order pending with
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: TJ Maxx and Marshalls.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, goodness.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Now, I could have canceled the order. I could have
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: told TJ Maxx and Marshalls I can't. fulfill the order.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: But I still would have had to buy that product
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: from the factory in China. So I decided to go ahead,
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: get the product, right? Get the order over here, meet
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: our deadline, sell it to TJ Maxx and Marshalls.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: But what happened, we lost about $ 350, 000 on just that
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: one order. Just that one order. Brand new company. Like
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: a year and a half old, not even two years old.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: We lost $ 350, 000. The product got here.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Well, because I took such a loss on that order,
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: there was no money left to market the product. There
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: was no money to spend on sale, on advertising and marketing.
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: So the response to that particular product was lackluster. It
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: wasn't what it should have been because now all the.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Money was gone. It was all spent on getting the
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: product here.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: So what do you do for yourself for roadblocks like that?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Well, one, I drink a lot of champagne.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I can take that tip.
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: Listen, some days I'm like, I don't know how I'm
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: going to get through the day, but I know I
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: got a bottle chilling in there, so let me go
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: get that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: It helps. It helps. The other thing is I'm very resilient.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I'm resilient. I am a winner. I am going to
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: win in life. That is it. There is no plan
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: B for me. I have to win.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: So even though I experienced tremendous failures and setbacks and
• 38:11
  Speaker 6: roadblocks and fumbles, it's like I'm not done yet.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not done yet. I feel like my destiny is predetermined.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: And it's up to me to walk into that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: And it's up to me to trust that That whatever
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: is happening in my life, it's not happening to me.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: It's happening for me.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: Because it's teaching me whatever lessons I need. And I
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: can't get to the next level until I learn the
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: lessons right here. And I believe that God isn't going
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: to continue to open those doors until I learn those lessons,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: until I'm ready.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I know you're a prayer person.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Warrior.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Are you a manifestor also? He's our resident manifestor.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: He's a cancer.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I know he is.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Are you a cancer also? Yes. Okay. He a boy.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: He was so happy. My dad sent around, he used
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: to tease him all the time for being the manifestor.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: But then there was some article that came out last week,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I guess, that shows there's some science behind The truth
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: and reality of manifesting your wins in life.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: It really is.
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: You have to see. And it sounds like a cliche, right?
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: But you have to see it before it's there. You
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: have to know where you're going before you get there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: You might not know how to get there, but you know.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: where you're going.
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: And I think it's part of, it's a skill set
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: that's part of my work as a designer, because I
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: can walk in any room and see everything. the potential
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: of the room.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: You're helping here. Next episode is going to be Madison
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Family Talks designed by Diane Valentine. I can't.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: She's out of my budget.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, is that in the budget
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: of here?
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: You're going to have to get up your budget because.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: You need Diane.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: But I would say manifesting, though, is also to a
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: certain thing where, like, you know, Gabby and I, right,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, houses that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: We want to get.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: That's your girlfriend.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: That's my girlfriend now, yep. So forget all the other
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: talk about me.
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: It's your girlfriend.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's my girlfriend. But forget all the other
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: talk about Kamara's friends and white girls and all that.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: It's behind me.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: It's behind you.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It's behind me.
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: Gabby is the one.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: She's the one.
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: I love Gabby.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: And so my thing is like, you know, we're talking
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: basically overall, you can't reach your goals if you don't
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: have any, if you don't have that like mindset.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: What you realize is that all these little small things
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that you subconsciously do lead to those goals. But if
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you don't have it, you won't make those little things
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that you think will lead you there. For example, we're
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: talking about getting a home and that process. And sometimes
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: she's talking about these things. high prices. And I'm like, that's,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that's too much. Like you got to come back down
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: to reality. And she's like, no, it's manifesting. Like, I'm
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: just like, and she reminds me that I believe in
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: it and she's just doing it also. Cause sometimes I'm like,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: that's not realistic, you know, and in two years, this,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: this and that. And she's like, well, it's not realistic
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: if you don't believe it.
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: That's the, I agree.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, my whole life is not realistic. I mean,
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: I'm a party planner. I'm a party planner. Like I
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: make things beautiful. I have been around the world. I
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: have had clients in private jets to come and get
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: me for meetings. I've had clients gift me something crazy.
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: Like one of my clients gave me a Lamborghini. Like my,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: like my life is so extraordinary. I know that I'm,
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: I am, I am surfing on the prayers of, of
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: my mother and my grandmother. And there is something that
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: I'm supposed to do in this life. And it's my
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: job to don't stop until I do it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: Because, you know, you have presented yourself across so many industries.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: How do you know when to take that leap of
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: faith and to move on?
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Moving on is hard for me.
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: Because I'm somebody, you know, it's almost like I almost
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: feel like maybe it's a, you know, a spectrum, like
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: an autistic trait of mine. Like I have to finish things.
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: I can't leave things undone. I have to finish it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: So it's very difficult for me to walk away. However,
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: I am really good at decision making. And even on
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: the spot, I never second guess myself. I never second
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: guess my decisions. When I get to that fork in
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: the road, it's like, do I go left? Do I
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: go right? Whichever way I choose, I'm confident that it's
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: where I'm supposed to be. Now, the criticism of somebody
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: like me is that you could say I make.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Decisions too fast.
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: And I don't think them through. I don't think them
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: through all the way, which is why I make mistakes.
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: But I'm just like, it's about speed. Yep.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Like, you got to get there. You got to do it.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: You got to get there.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: You got to jump out.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: You got to take the leap of faith.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Because the mistakes are going to happen.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: You got to be willing to risk it all.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It's easier to make the corrections after you do it
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: once than spend so much time. But you're moving.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You're actually trying to do it.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Never doing. Yes. Never doing.
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: It's kind of like the advice that I give to
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: women that, you know, on the dating side, right, that
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: want to be in love and that have experienced lots
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: of heartbreak and they're like, oh, Diane, I don't know
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: if I can do this, or they're trying to, like,
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: play games.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: They're trying to, like, finagle war.
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to call him until he calls me,
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: or I'm not going to do this, or I'm not
• 43:35
  Speaker 6: going to say I love you and all of this.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm just like, that's ridiculous because you have to
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: be willing to risk it all. Risk everything.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: Risk everything in the name of love, in the name
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: of your dreams.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: You've got to be willing to look stupid. You've got
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: to be willing to be wrong. You've got to risk
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: it all because if you're right, On the other side
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: of that is something so beautiful.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: So speaking of risking it all, I've heard you talk
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: about before about how success costs everything.
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And just your journey to having multiple successful careers, doing
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: that as a single mom with your daughter. What is
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: something that success has cost you, I guess?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Toughest lesson in my life is motherhood. Mm-hmm.
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: My daughter has been my greatest teacher because everybody pays
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: a price for success in a family. Everybody pays a price, right?
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: So I paid my prices. And when I was raising
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: my daughter as a single mom, I didn't think I
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: was making decisions that would negatively affect her after.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: She grew up. And it wasn't until she grew up.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: That I realized that I was making decisions that were
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: detrimental to her development as a young woman, as an adult.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: And I have paid royally for those decisions. And now
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: we are, I think we're through the worst of it.
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: You know, we're very close now and our relationship has
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: mended and all of those things. But I have watched
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: her make decisions that were bad for her.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: And I couldn't stop her.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. I couldn't stop it. And I see it. Like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: she's right there.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: She's about to run into that wall at 80 miles
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: an hour. And I know where you're going. And I'm
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: begging you, please don't make that decision.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: We talked about this the other day about just... with
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: adult children in particular and just, you know, at a
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: certain point you have to release and allow that development
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and learning to take place as hard as it is.
• 45:40
  Speaker 6: But I think a lot of her decisions were to
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: spite me.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, do you think it was.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You know, Greg, I wasn't a part of that conversation.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Who you all talking about?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Wait, do you think it was about you?
• 45:50
  Speaker 9: Do you think it was about, as a mother, I
• 45:52
  Speaker 9: just always think about how my decisions are constantly affecting
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: my girls.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: And so, do you think it was a timing thing?
• 45:57
  Speaker 9: Like, you were working so hard, you weren't there in
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: moments where, like, You should have been there.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Because I know as a working mom, it's hard. It
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: really is.
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: I think that was a huge part of it, is
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: that my career had taken off.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: I was traveling a lot. And in my mind, my daughter,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: she had my dad.
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: So she didn't grow up with her dad, but my
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: dad was more like her father. And so my father
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: didn't live in L.A., but he was in L.A. every
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: other weekend. Whenever I would travel, he would fly down.
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: He would stay with her. He'd take her to school.
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: She didn't grow up with a nanny. You know, she
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: grew up around love. She grew up around amazing black men.
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: And I just thought that I was taking care of her.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: And she'd never said it.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: I wasn't until she got older. And then there was
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: all this resentment. So anything that I wanted, she rejected.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: She rejected college. She rejected a career. She rejected everything
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: that I stood for.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Because of where it was coming from.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: So for her, she chose motherhood.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: She said, I'm going to be a mom, and I'm
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: going to be a better mom than you ever were
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: to me.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Well, Diane has been blessed with how many grandchildren from Ryan?
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, we have six now.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Six.
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: All boys and one girl.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Wait, what?
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's a.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Little Lucy. That's a lot of energy. She's going to
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: be a mom.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: She's going to.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Be a mom.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: Diane has some beautiful grandchildren. And we talk about that,
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: and you talked about what you... the legacy you want
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: to leave for your grandchildren. And you talked about that's
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: why you started the beauty business and the beauty store.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: What else do you want to leave for them?
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I used to want to leave them a lot of money,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and I don't anymore.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: I think that when your children don't earn the money
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: that you leave to them, there's not the same level
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: of appreciation for it, for one.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: And two, it creates laziness. Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: And when life is just too good, you know, so
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: I used to think I was going to leave all
• 47:59
  Speaker 6: this money for them.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: And now I'm just like, I'm going to spend it
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: all because I earned it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: You don't spend it all, but you say you most
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: definitely you make sure you treat your grandchildren to experiences.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, they do.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: They're still privileged. They're still privileged.
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: But yes, I understand that.
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's a wrong assessment. I mean,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: you want to take care of people, make sure they
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: ain't out here struggling. But there is value. We're talking
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: about her family.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: We're talking about her family right now.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, yes.
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: You don't want to leave them money just to live
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: off of I mean I want them to have a
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: start on life but I don't want them to never
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: have to work I don't want them to feel like
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: they don't.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: Need to do anything and I intend to live like
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: this is one life I've worked It's hard to create
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: this life. I have worked hard to spend months in
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: Europe at a time.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Like, that's my joy.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: 100%. You have to have that joy.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Are you saying one day you will be living there?
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: Yes, one day.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Off of your money.
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: I'll be there. I understand.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: I do want to ask you, Diane, though, what's a
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: dream you're still giving yourself permission to pursue besides getting
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: to Italy?
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: You know, one of the things I've always, that I
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: was always, already kind of achieving is I used to
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: be fluent in Italian so I used to speak Italian
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: very fluently particularly when I shot to Rome for Love
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: because I lived there for four months and I've lost
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: it I've lost so much of it now that I'm
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: back and You know, I don't have Italian friends, so
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: I don't get a chance to speak it. So learning
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: to speak Italian is very important. Another thing I want
• 49:42
  Speaker 6: is a family compound. That is my dream in the U.S.,
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: is to have, you know, a minimum of 10 acres
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: and then just have a house for everybody on a compound.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Self-sustaining, yeah.
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: Environment for them. So if they grow up and they're
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: all lazy and.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: They always have a house where we all do stuff.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: See, you do want to pass something down. At least
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: you got a place to live. You're going to have
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: to go out and work to spend that money. But
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: you can live here, but you go get your own
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: spending money.
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: What's your game that you have for us, son?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: All right, you all.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: This game is called Wedding Wars, Justified or Doing Too Much.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And basically what I'm going to do is go around
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: and ask you all a scenario.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is going to be a fun one. Diane's
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: going to go last.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: And pretty much, is this person justified or are they
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: doing too much?
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: First one is the controlling mother. The mother of the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: bride is paying for the wedding. So she demands final
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: approval of the guest list, flowers, and wedding dress. Justified
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: or is she doing too much?
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: Doing too much.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: I'm going to say.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: justified only because unless that bride can take care of
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: her own wedding you might have to go along with
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: what mommy wants and hope that your ideas kind of
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: mesh together because i.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Don't know if you can.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: Overcome that if you have a demanding mommy but i'm
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: just saying i get that but the reality of it
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: is that doing too much.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: It's doing too much.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Yes. That's the reality. No.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: I'm just telling you the real scenario.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: If mama wants all these things and she's paying for
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: the wedding.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's justified.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: I think you might have to give in to it.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: You might have to give in to it.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: But it is doing too much.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: No, it's doing too much.
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: Like I told you, I was not that mother.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: I was going to say the mother is justified in
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: my opinion because I'm like, your money, your rules, and
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: that's what I believe about everything. But it's not right.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: But it is doing too much.
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: I think it's... doing too much 100% give me a
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: budget or just don't pay for it and I won't
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: have a wedding but it seems like it must be
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: your dream to have this wedding if you should have
• 51:54
  Speaker 9: had it at your time your own wedding I think
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: is absolutely justified and it has nothing to do with
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: money wow it has nothing to do with money because
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: money is just a tool it doesn't matter who pays for.
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: It right But a wedding is a family celebration, right?
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: It is a moment for a mother of the bride
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: to put you up on this pedestal and declare to
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: the world that you are her princess, right?
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: She's showing you off.
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: She's showing you off not just to the world and
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: just to her family, but she's also showing you off
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: to your husband's family.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess that's the traditional aspect of a wedding, yes.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: But you're saying, so final approval on a wedding dress, right?
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she's saying it like a family is giving
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: it away. You're giving your daughter away.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: I understand what Diane is saying.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Traditionally, it's the parents, the.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Mom, who she's presenting her daughter to this wedding.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you, too many of my clients, they
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: tend to be the first generation of money in their families, right?
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: And so my clients tend to pay for their own weddings.
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: And because they pay for their own weddings, too many
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: times I feel like they disrespect their parents.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Because they're not paying.
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: And I think it's the worst thing. I always tell clients,
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: put their names on the invitation. Have your mother host something.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: That's important.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: Let your dad host this.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Because you are.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Joining two families at the end.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Of the day. Yes, and it has nothing to do
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: with money.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I see your point, but I can see that being
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: so contentious.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: In this day and age, yeah, we have young people
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: who are getting married.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: We do.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: And if their parents are paying for it, They still want.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: What they want.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Especially with this Instagram.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: It's terrible. I think it is absolutely terrible.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: A mother has earned her right to help you make
• 53:38
  Speaker 6: some decisions in your life.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Come on now.
• 53:41
  Speaker 7: I'm glad we didn't have any problems like that.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: I don't remember any. Next one.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: The bride expects all of her bridesmaids to spend $ 1, 000
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: on their dresses plus pay for a destination bachelorette weekend,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: is that justified or is that doing too much?
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: I think it's justified, but I think if you don't
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: have it and you can't do it, don't do it.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I agree. I think it's justified.
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: I think you just have to, I think it's justified,
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: but you have to understand if your bridesmaids can't do it. Honestly,
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: if it was my bridesmaid, I would just pay for,
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: pay for half of it or say, how much can
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: you contribute? And I'll cover the rest. But I think
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: it's justified for wanting those things. I don't think it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: doing too much.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say justified. I think it's fair to ask.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: You got to be, you got to suck it up
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: and say you can't pay if you can't pay.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely doing too much.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Woo!
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: I do not want to wear your dress. I might
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: not can't afford to come to your.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Wedding and I don't want the pressure to do that.
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: I do not want to have to now pay for
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: my man to come. Oh, and God forbid you ask
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: my baby to be a flower girl.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Now I got to pay for her to come and
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I got to buy her a dress. Absolutely.
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: It is doing too much. This is my thing. I
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: tell clients this all the time. If you cannot afford
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: to pay for the expenses of your wedding party, then
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: don't have any bridesmaids and don't have any groomsmen.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, so how often does that happen? I've been hoodwinked.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I ain't never had nobody pay for my stuff.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: She just told you to ammo. You're my friend. And
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I love you.
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: And I am genuinely happy for you. I do not
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: want to buy a dress I'm never going to wear again.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: I don't want to buy the shoes. I don't want
• 55:22
  Speaker 6: to buy the earrings. As a matter of fact, I
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: don't even like your style. But because I'm your friend,
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: I'm supposed to do all of this?
• 55:28
  Speaker 7: So that's not the sacrifice of a bride.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: It is not. It should not have money.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: Again, money should have nothing to do with it. And
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: I tell my clients all the time, because my clients
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: are like, well, my girl's got money and half of
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: them are married.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: To ballers and they can afford it. And I'm like,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: it's not about the money. How do you know they
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: want to spend it? What, they want to spend their
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: allowance on your ugly wedding dress?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: They don't want it.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: If I'm your friend and you're getting married and a visa, right?
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: You're my friend, so I'm coming, right? I'm going to
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: pay for the ticket. I'm going to get me a
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: hotel room. I'm going to be there standing right by
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: your side. I should not have to.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Pay the expenses to be in your wedding. Because guess what?
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I don't even need to be in your wedding.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Now, do you have weddings where people have actually paid
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: for their- They always do.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: They always do. When they don't, I think it is
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: so classless when they don't.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: And I tell them that this should not be anybody's expense.
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: And the amount of money that they make in a
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: year should not be a determining factor.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Whether it can be a bridesmaid or not.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: You actually want your friends to- Yes. You are selecting
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: them because they need something to do. And this is
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: your love story.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I like this.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: Girl, I could be happy for you without buying this dress.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: I'm happy we disagreed on that because I don't know.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: You make a good point. Like, I don't want my
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: friends going to the debt. But, I mean, I don't
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: want to go in the debt.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Either for you.
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: So, you're right.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: You should have that one there.
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: Like, even if I can afford it, I don't want
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: to spend my money on something for your wedding.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And I think to your point, you tell your clients,
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: if you can't afford to do this, don't do it.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Just don't have it.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: You don't have to do all this stuff.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: You don't have bridesmaids or groomsmen.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: You made the point earlier about how Instagram has gotten
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: so terrible.
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: You ain't got to do everything you see on Instagram.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Have your wedding in your backyard.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Instagram has ruined my life.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: And don't have no bridesmaids and groomsmen.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Let your friends come and wear whatever they want to wear.
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: If they can make it, they can make it. They
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: going to be happy for you.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: So have you noticed a difference in the industry since
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Instagram's on set?
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, God, yes.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness, I'm sure. It's probably a good one
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: for you, though, right?
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: No, it's horrible. No one realizes how much stuff costs.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: They want it, but they don't want to pay for it.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: They see it, but they don't realize how much stuff costs.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: She's the miracle worker. She can do it on a
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: shoestring budget.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: People don't realize how much stuff costs.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: They have no idea.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: They have no idea what it costs. And you can't
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: really tell people that up front, right? Like, Linda, when
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: she gave me the budget for Kamara's wedding... And she
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: showed me the location they wanted.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I said, there's no way. There's no way you can
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: do it for that amount of money. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: We just want something nice and simple. I said, there's
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: no way.
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: It's physically impossible to do it. Like when clients tell
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: me that all the time, they're like, it costs so
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: much money. We could have did this for this amount
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: of money. I'm like, no, you could have done it
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: for that amount of money. You could not have done
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: what I did.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Did for that amount of money.
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: But you can do it.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: The best part is, he's showing you pictures like, so-and-so
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: did this, and I know they ain't got that much money.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I think my budget was four times what I thought.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And I think Dad only knows the original budget, so
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: he's always like, yeah, the.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Wedding cost this much. And I'm like, you ain't know.
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: Oh, he knows now.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Well, he found out a year later.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: These are some good little questions, son.
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: It's giving me some insight. Most definitely. You have another
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: one for us?
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: No, I think we're good.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: We are good.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: I had some other ones, but I don't want it
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: to get worse.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: Like, I still need my next gig.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: I still need my next ride.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: I want to say to my dear friend, I thank
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: you so much for joining us. This has been so
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: much fun having you here. I feel so good about
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: this whole podcast.
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: My son's going to close us out here.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Uh-oh, what am I supposed to do? You were just close.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: Us out.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: No, he's going to finish closing us out. Oh, yeah,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that's right. I had a new job today. I'm supposed
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: to say it because Dad is not here.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, we're missing the judge.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Diane, thank you for joining us. Everyone listening, I hope
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: you enjoyed this episode of Mathis Family Talks. Please comment, like,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: and subscribe. Did he text you and tell you to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: say that?
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Did he text you and tell you to say that?
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: No, I got a very good memory.
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: He does.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Guys, thank you, Diane.
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: We are ready to go get our champagne now.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: Thank y'all.