Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Is the Iran war making a case for renewables
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The world is facing an energy crisis not seen since
- 0:03Speaker 1: the global oil crisis of the nineteen seventies. That's according
- 0:06Speaker 1: to Fati Birol, the head of the International Energy Association.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Since the US and Israel began their war against Iran,
- 0:13Speaker 1: the world's energy infrastructure has been caught in the lurch.
- 0:16Speaker 1: It has pushed up fuel prices from Asia to the
- 0:18Speaker 1: Middle East, Africa and the Americas, exposing our energy systems
- 0:23Speaker 1: to be fragile, and experts warn the worst is likely
- 0:27Speaker 1: yet to come as supply chains worldwide come under increasing stress.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Could our energy systems really break down? Can renewable energy
- 0:36Speaker 1: really protect us from future shocks? And is our economy
- 0:40Speaker 1: really as fragile as it was during the first oil crisis?
- 0:43Speaker 2: It is more fragile because we have.
- 0:47Speaker 3: A continual requirement for fossil fuels.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Anthony Froggat is an energy analyst and senior director of Energy,
- 0:55Speaker 1: Aviation and Shipping at the advocacy group TNE. Before that,
- 0:59Speaker 1: he worked does a consultant for energy transition issues.
- 1:02Speaker 3: So the global consumption of fossil fuels has continued to
- 1:05Speaker 3: increase year on year, and we remain dependent on a
- 1:10Speaker 3: very small number of states to supply the globe in
- 1:14Speaker 3: terms of its fossil fuels, and there is more and
- 1:16Speaker 3: more demand for these. And also fossil fuels are not
- 1:19Speaker 3: only used within the energy sector, they are also part
- 1:22Speaker 3: of the construction of petrochemicals in terms of oil. In
- 1:27Speaker 3: terms of gas, we use around five percent of natural
- 1:29Speaker 3: gas to make fertilizers, so they're also connected to food security.
- 1:34Speaker 3: So in that way, society is highly abundant on fossil fuels.
- 1:38Speaker 1: In the nineteen seventies, the Yum Kippur War, involving mainly Israel,
- 1:42Speaker 1: Egypt and Syria, triggered one of the biggest energy crises.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Many Arab nations announced they will stop supplying oil to
- 1:48Speaker 1: Israel's allies. Prices shot up immediately. In fact, within months,
- 1:53Speaker 1: global oil prices have quadrupled. Even today, our societies and
- 1:57Speaker 1: economies remain heavily reliant on fossil fuels.
- 2:01Speaker 3: So around eighty percent, so four fifths of our energy
- 2:06Speaker 3: globally that's consumed and sold comes from fossil fuels, and
- 2:11Speaker 3: the largest share of that is from oil. So oil
- 2:15Speaker 3: and then coal. Coal isn't traded so much, most of
- 2:18Speaker 3: it's used domestically. It's only about twenty percent of its
- 2:20Speaker 3: traded and then natural gas. There's a large number of
- 2:23Speaker 3: countries that are dependent on imported fossil fuels, and the
- 2:28Speaker 3: ten largest exporting countries for both gas and oil provide
- 2:32Speaker 3: around seventy percent.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Of the global global oil and gas.
- 2:37Speaker 3: So a small number of countries supply a large amount
- 2:40Speaker 3: of the population with the majority of their energy. So
- 2:43Speaker 3: in some ways that's the inherent problem that we have.
- 2:47Speaker 3: It's further compounded, i would say, and is exactly what
- 2:50Speaker 3: we're seeing now is that there is certain choke points
- 2:53Speaker 3: or choke points or pinch points in the world. And
- 2:57Speaker 3: the straight up Horn moves is an obvious example. Have
- 3:00Speaker 3: twenty percent of the words oil and twenty percent of
- 3:04Speaker 3: the world's LNG liquefied natural gas under normal circumstances going
- 3:10Speaker 3: through that very narrow piece of c and that is
- 3:13Speaker 3: what we're seeing now is the ability for states to
- 3:17Speaker 3: stop that flow of stop the tankers, and this is
- 3:21Speaker 3: having a huge impact.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Analysts like Frogart argue that the Iran War is a
- 3:26Speaker 1: reminder that global energy systems need a complete overhaul, and
- 3:30Speaker 1: that the Iran War is making the case for renewables
- 3:33Speaker 1: like wind, solar, hydro power and photovoltaikes are PV.
- 3:37Speaker 2: For shot, So it's cheaper to do renewables.
- 3:41Speaker 3: That is, to develop a new gas field, extract the gas,
- 3:47Speaker 3: put it into a gas power station and then put
- 3:49Speaker 3: that onto the grid. Why not shortcut it, buy the
- 3:52Speaker 3: PV panels, put them in the system, and then you're
- 3:54Speaker 3: generating much.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Cheaper forms of electricity.
- 3:56Speaker 3: So we have seen a huge shift towards renewable, but
- 4:00Speaker 3: it's in some ways it's a big if we can
- 4:03Speaker 3: use the metaphor a big oil tanker to turn around.
- 4:06Speaker 3: There are some real success stories and the EU is
- 4:08Speaker 3: one of these. What we saw in twenty twenty five
- 4:12Speaker 3: for the first time ever is that solar and wind
- 4:16Speaker 3: between them, contributed more to the EU's electricity grid than
- 4:20Speaker 3: fossil fuels. So we've seen a ten percent rise in
- 4:24Speaker 3: the use of renewable energies in this sorry ten percent
- 4:27Speaker 3: rise in the use of solar and wind, so that
- 4:30Speaker 3: they now contribute over thirty percent of the total electricity
- 4:34Speaker 3: consumption within the EU. So in a five year period,
- 4:38Speaker 3: that is a remarkable shift, and that is because we're
- 4:41Speaker 3: seeing falling prices for the technologies.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Spain, for instance, produces sixty percent of its energy through renewables,
- 4:48Speaker 1: and Portugal met its entire energy requirement from green sources
- 4:51Speaker 1: last year. This has blunted the shock of the current
- 4:54Speaker 1: energy crisis, even if it could not eliminate the shock completely.
- 4:58Speaker 3: So you have to have a system, You have to
- 5:01Speaker 3: build out the grids. In the past, you had nuclear
- 5:06Speaker 3: power plants and coal plants primarily providing the majority of electricity.
- 5:10Speaker 3: So there were large centralized systems, and you are moving
- 5:12Speaker 3: away from that into more decentralized system in which you
- 5:16Speaker 3: have smaller units of generation be it solar or wind,
- 5:21Speaker 3: or hydro or biomass, and you have micro level in
- 5:27Speaker 3: terms of it's on people's rooftops. So you have a
- 5:30Speaker 3: system that is much more dynamic, and you then need
- 5:33Speaker 3: to invest in the grid to enable that to happen,
- 5:35Speaker 3: to move away from that centralized.
- 5:36Speaker 2: System into a more distributed system.
- 5:39Speaker 3: So it is a transition that goes beyond just installing
- 5:46Speaker 3: new solar panels or new wind turbines. You need to
- 5:49Speaker 3: change the way in which the system operates.
- 5:51Speaker 1: And what fundamental changes should the world pursue. He recommends
- 5:56Speaker 1: taking pragmatic steps based on the lessons of the past
- 5:59Speaker 1: to temper the world economy from future shocks.
- 6:02Speaker 2: So on the short term, what can you do?
- 6:05Speaker 3: There are behavioral measures that people can do, and we're
- 6:08Speaker 3: starting to see that in different countries or different recommendations
- 6:14Speaker 3: about changing the way in which you behave potentially lowering
- 6:18Speaker 3: the speed limit, not wasting so much energy, and we've
- 6:21Speaker 3: seen that case after case that is what can be done,
- 6:24Speaker 3: and you can make huge changes in that regard. I
- 6:28Speaker 3: think the second issue is to look at the existing
- 6:30Speaker 3: policies and in some ways, again within the European context,
- 6:34Speaker 3: we have this. We've had a previous all shot in
- 6:37Speaker 3: twenty twenty two with Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine.
- 6:40Speaker 3: There was a number of measures that were put in
- 6:42Speaker 3: place at the time in order to reduce dependency on
- 6:46Speaker 3: fossil fuels, and so I would look back from a
- 6:48Speaker 3: government perspective or a European wide perspective and see which
- 6:52Speaker 3: of those measures works and which of them need further support.
- 6:56Speaker 3: So we can look at existing policies and measures and
- 6:59Speaker 3: say how can we answer these? And then my final
- 7:02Speaker 3: question is maybe on the longer term, is be steadfast
- 7:06Speaker 3: in our objective From a climate change perspective, we know
- 7:11Speaker 3: and the world has agreed to this in terms of
- 7:13Speaker 3: the Paris Agreement, is that we'd be seek to fully
- 7:17Speaker 3: decarbonize or have net zero by twenty fifty and that
- 7:22Speaker 3: is a strategic target and we need to stick to that.
- 7:26Speaker 2: We need to stick to it for two reasons.
- 7:28Speaker 3: One is from a climate change perspective, it's an imperative
- 7:32Speaker 3: we need to reduce emissions to avoid the worst consequences
- 7:35Speaker 3: of climate change. But secondly, we need to give that
- 7:38Speaker 3: assurances to those investors that this is a serious objective
- 7:44Speaker 3: and it's not just something that politicians will through throughout overnight.
- 7:49Speaker 3: It's something that we will do and therefore encourages them
- 7:52Speaker 3: to make those investments.
- 7:53Speaker 1: The war and Iran continues to raise questions around global
- 7:57Speaker 1: supply systems and the way we share the world's recess.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Join us next time for a look at another facet.
- 8:03Speaker 1: I'm nehal Juri. Thanks for watching.