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- 0:16My guest by way of telephone is Anna Rountree,
- 0:20and her name had come up to me several times.
- 0:24And I was up in Moravian Falls,
- 0:27North Carolina at a leaders' idea exchange with a friend
- 0:32of mine, Rick Joyner, and sitting opposite me was a man by the name of Stephen Strang
- 0:38and his wife, Joy, and they're the editors of Charisma magazine.
- 0:46And Stephen kept looking at me.
- 0:48He walked up.
- 0:48He said, Sid, I think you're supposed to meet Anna and Albert Rountree.
- 0:54And I said, well, their names come up before I'd like to meet them.
- 0:58So they arranged for me to meet Anna and her husband, Albert.
- 1:04And, of course, there was an intriguing portion.
- 1:07And that intriguing portion is that Anna has had literally hundreds
- 1:13of visitations to heaven and has recorded it so accurately.
- 1:18In fact, let me read this from her book,
- 1:23The Heavens Opened by Anna Rountree.
- 1:27And this is by Gwen Shaw, the head of End Time Handmaidens.
- 1:31The heavens opened is an amazing and beautiful revelation
- 1:36of the place that he has gone to prepare for us
- 1:40and where we will spend eternity.
- 1:42Of the many recent books written about our future home,
- 1:46none reveal so clearly the glory of God that awaits us if we are faithful to him
- 1:52during the days of testing that many have already begun to experience.
- 1:56You will read it more than once and you will want to share it with all your friends.
- 2:02You will not be able to put it down.
- 2:05Now, when I went over Anna's home, I found out things about Anna
- 2:11and I went there with Stephen and Joy Strang
- 2:16and Joy was saying, boy, I didn't know those things.
- 2:21Anna, you actually wrote the film
- 2:25script for Stephen King's first movie?
- 2:31Well, that's exactly right.
- 2:34I withdrew after writing it and took my
- 2:39name off of it because after I wrote it,
- 2:44the Lord told me that I was going to be marrying a minister.
- 2:47And I didn't think that that sort of material would
- 2:53be right for a minister's wife to have written.
- 2:59Believe me, I didn't think it was right.
- 3:01Now the circumstances of you marrying a minister were pretty interesting.
- 3:07You were being prayed for and being baptized in the Holy Spirit,
- 3:12speaking in unknown tongues.
- 3:15And what did God tell you?
- 3:16Well, he told me that I was going to be marrying the minister of that church.
- 3:22Now, how does someone walk up to the minister of that church and say, well, God told me I'm going to marry you?
- 3:28Oh, you don't.
- 3:31You don't do that.
- 3:33In fact, the Lord said not to say anything to him that he was like a man asleep,
- 3:40that he was going to say something to him, and he did.
- 3:46It took a couple of months, but he did.
- 3:50And out of curiosity,
- 3:52did God sovereignly tell him or he just was attracted to you?
- 3:58No, no, no.
- 4:00He and I were not attracted to one another at all.
- 4:05We just, you know, in the natural we weren't each other's type.
- 4:09Now, you must realize that when I was working
- 4:14on the first draft of the screenplay of Carrie,
- 4:19I was not saved.
- 4:21I'm sure that as a saved person, I never would have done it.
- 4:26But I was not saved.
- 4:27The Lord brought me into this.
- 4:28That is a horrible movie.
- 4:31Oh, heavens.
- 4:33You know, my generation was traumatized by Psycho.
- 4:39And this other generation,
- 4:42the time of when Carrie came out in the 70s, was traumatized by Carrie.
- 4:49And I mean, it's a ghastly film.
- 4:53What I was trying to do in the film was make
- 4:58it so real that it would be possible, you see.
- 5:03the producers allowed me to they wanted it changed
- 5:07from the location of the book which was vermont
- 5:12from vermont to a small texas town and i had
- 5:15been from texas and i said i haven't lived in
- 5:19texas in years if you'll let me go to texas uh and sit in texas in a small texas town then i'll
- 5:26write this for you and um therefore i did that's
- 5:31when i met my husband he would they were having
- 5:35these meetings on Friday night.
- 5:38Now, your husband was involved with, he was a pastor out at Church of the Redeemer in,
- 5:44was that Houston?
- 5:45Yes, he was one of the two clergy of that church.
- 5:51Now, that's the place where within a church the charismatic movement really got started.
- 5:57Yes, that's true.
- 5:58It's very, it's well known is that, in fact,
- 6:03like the vineyard up in Toronto and like Brownsville,
- 6:10the world came to Houston to take a
- 6:14coal from the altar, you might say,
- 6:17and take it back and it ignited fires in many places.
- 6:22What was the catalyst that started the move of God in that church?
- 6:28Do you know?
- 6:30Well, I believe it was actually God himself that did this,
- 6:34but it wasn't known to anyone.
- 6:37What he did is that he gathered together 12 people,
- 6:43two of them were clergy, who prayed every single day.
- 6:49and one of them had to drive over from Galveston
- 6:56to pray every day early in the morning.
- 7:01It was a church that had what they call a crypt
- 7:03or a small chapel under, in a basement you might say
- 7:09in New York, it's down in the basement.
- 7:13They would come together in that particular chapel
- 7:17and pray and uh they knew that the lord was
- 7:21doing something because he had moved within them
- 7:25in such a way that compelled them to come
- 7:29together to pray he had brought them together
- 7:33and uh and he ignited from those prayers this
- 7:39uh wonderful uh outbreak of the spirit within
- 7:44that church and it just wonderful music
- 7:48came from it and my husband said he
- 7:52says you know our mouths were just filled with laughter sounds like a psalm
- 7:57to me they were like children because
- 8:02the grace was so great and the
- 8:06outpouring so mighty he said we would
- 8:11just ask for anything oh wait that went
- 8:16by too fast did you catch that mishpochah they just she just said we would just ask for anything
- 8:23and the lord would do it yes yes that's
- 8:27right it was an extraordinary period of time
- 8:31in everyone's life of course everyone thought
- 8:36it would last you know um that it would go on
- 8:41and on. Of course, it did spread everywhere.
- 8:46It was a mighty move of God. But as with all
- 8:50of the moves of God that have happened in the past,
- 8:56they get corrupted. They just don't
- 9:00last.
- 9:01Now, I'm going to jump a little.
- 9:04You obviously got married, and a lot of interesting things
- 9:09happened with the ministry you and your husband had, but then you met a man by the name of
- 9:14Bob Jones who was a friend of mine.
- 9:16I've got a funny Bob Jones story.
- 9:18He's a prophet, mishpochah, and I called him once on the telephone to interview him
- 9:23and at that time, I was living in the Washington, D.C. area.
- 9:28I was actually in Gaithersburg, Maryland and I said, “Hi, Bob.
- 9:32My name is Sid Roth and I’m from Washington, D.C.” because who’s heard of Gaithersburg,
- 9:37maryland and he said i can't talk to you and i said why can't you he said because i'm waiting
- 9:42for a call from someone from gaithersburg maryland i said well that's me uh so anyway this bob jones
- 9:49has had so many amazing visitations and trips
- 9:53to heaven and i understand you met him and you
- 9:56decided you wanted to write his life story but
- 10:01you had a problem what was that well it's actually
- 10:06I think the Lord answered a prayer because of that.
- 10:10We had been in Kansas City, and we were interviewing him,
- 10:15putting it on tape, his life story on tape.
- 10:18His life story is really very interesting.
- 10:22And we were taping him and also going out to eat.
- 10:28I'm not sure which we were enjoying the most, taping or going out to eat together,
- 10:33but we were having a wonderful time together but
- 10:37uh i would ask him because he would go to heaven
- 10:41and he said well i went to heaven and such and such you know and i'd say well bob um what does
- 10:48it look like up there and he would say well you
- 10:52know i said well i really don't know believe me
- 10:56I don't know.
- 10:57I said, are there colors up there?
- 11:00Do you see colors?
- 11:01I mean, is everybody dressed in white or does anybody have on something that is a different,
- 11:09something like that?
- 11:11And he said, well, you know.
- 11:13And I thought, oh my word.
- 11:17So finally, after we finished all of the taping, I really told the Lord, I said,
- 11:24Lord, if you want me to write the story of this
- 11:28man's life and he's going to heaven all the time
- 11:32and I don't know what heaven looks like and you're going to have to take me to heaven.
- 11:39I need to see heaven myself if you want me to write this.
- 11:46But I just ask one thing.
- 11:47I don't want to have to be smashed up in a car or something, you know?
- 11:52I understand.
- 11:54Could you just do something a little different here?
- 12:02Did you think he was going to take you to heaven when you prayed that?
- 12:05No.
- 12:06I didn't think so.
- 12:07No, I did not.
- 12:09But do you know, Sid, almost from the beginning of the time that I was saved,
- 12:15if anyone with a prophetic ministry saw me, they'd say, well, you'll be seeing into heaven.
- 12:20I have on the telephone Anna Rountree.
- 12:23I'm speaking to her at her home in Moravian Falls, North Carolina, by way of telephone.
- 12:29And I have a copy of her book, which I've just read, The Heavens Opened.
- 12:36On yesterday's broadcast,
- 12:38we found out that she was writing a book on Bob Jones,
- 12:43a prophet who had been to heaven many times.
- 12:45And she felt, well, I can't relate to this because I don't know what heaven is really like,
- 12:51not realizing that God was listening.
- 12:55And since that time, she has had hundreds of visitations to heaven
- 13:01and she literally will put a hunger within you to taste heaven.
- 13:06And I asked her before we went on the air and I said,
- 13:09anyone that pays the price that's a believer in the Messiah, can they go to heaven?
- 13:14And what did you say to me, Anna?
- 13:16I said absolutely.
- 13:18And in fact, more so nowadays because, Sid,
- 13:22I really believe that though this book and some others like Rick Joiners and others are forerunners,
- 13:31it is, you keep using the word provoke you to jealousy,
- 13:36it is to provoke one to jealousy, to seek to go on.
- 13:41And I believe that the Lord is bringing
- 13:46all of the believers into a place where
- 13:51they can communicate directly with him.
- 13:56Let me ask you a question.
- 13:57We had talked earlier about this off the air,
- 14:01but what was known as the charismatic movement that your husband was a pioneer in,
- 14:08that's pretty much finished, isn't it?
- 14:11Well, you know, it's simply an opinion, but I believe so.
- 14:17I believe it was actually finished in 1977.
- 14:23And what we call the renewal
- 14:26movement at Brownsville and Toronto
- 14:30and lots of other places, it's still going on,
- 14:35but I don't see the same degree of changes in people like I did at the beginning,
- 14:41and it's almost the same as the charismatic movement.
- 14:47So we're kind of in between moves of God's spirit,
- 14:51but you know what's going on in the heavenlies.
- 14:54What, in your opinion, will be the next move of God's spirit?
- 14:59Well, I think it's going to be so entirely supernatural.
- 15:02Of course, it's always supernatural,
- 15:07but I don't think it's going to be as tied to a church or something of this sort.
- 15:17I really believe that the Lord wants to call people directly to himself,
- 15:26what I call calling people to the garden.
- 15:31I think that we're trying to aim for the wrong thing, Sid.
- 15:36I think we're aiming for the early church.
- 15:40Well, you and I have discussed this.
- 15:43As you know, Mishpochah, I'm a Messianic Jew, a Jewish believer in Jesus.
- 15:48And Anna and I were talking about this.
- 15:51And Anna said, you Messianic Jews don't go back far enough.
- 15:55And I said, well, what do you mean?
- 15:57And we go back to Moses and the Torah and the biblical festivals.
- 16:02And then she said what she just said to me.
- 16:04We don't go back far enough.
- 16:07How far should we go, Anna?
- 16:08All the way to the garden.
- 16:11That's when there was no division.
- 16:14Well, that's true.
- 16:16That's right.
- 16:17There is no division there.
- 16:20You mean before the fall, of course.
- 16:22Well, really, yeah, before the fall.
- 16:27But even just the Lord walking
- 16:30with Adam and Eve in the garden.
- 16:34It sounds so pure and so wonderful.
- 16:37He wants that kind of intimacy.
- 16:41And he wants us, as it says, set your mind on things above.
- 16:47And we have become so earthly-minded here
- 16:52that we don't understand that what we actually need to do, Sid,
- 16:56is that we need to live above and commute to work on earth.
- 17:02But we have gotten very centered, earth-centered,
- 17:07which Paul warns us not to do,
- 17:11but to look above because it shifts onto,
- 17:18it throws everything onto the Lord then.
- 17:22When you live above,
- 17:24you know absolutely that things must shift to him
- 17:27and your flesh starts getting out of it.
- 17:35But, Anna, it's easy to preach it.
- 17:37Now you and your husband are living this.
- 17:40You're out in a beautiful, because I was in your home,
- 17:43I almost got snowed in as a matter of fact,
- 17:46in Moravian Falls, which is a story all unto itself.
- 17:52But the average person, the pull, well, let's just be candid,
- 17:57The pull of the world, the pull of the flesh,
- 18:01the pull of this life, without some supernatural help,
- 18:07how do you shift out of that pull to just be so single-minded?
- 18:14How does someone do this?
- 18:15Well, during the time that these things began with me,
- 18:21Sid, my husband took an interim pastorship in
- 18:26a Presbyterian church in the panhandle of Florida.
- 18:32We were down in Florida.
- 18:33And it was a small church, and in a small church,
- 18:38it actually keeps you busier than a big church
- 18:43because you must do everything,
- 18:49all the things with the children.
- 18:56And besides, you know, going to getting to know everyone,
- 19:03helping with corning season,
- 19:06which is, you know, shucking corn and snapping green beans
- 19:11and things like that when you're out in the country.
- 19:15And so we were incredibly, incredibly busy.
- 19:21We really were.
- 19:23And these visions, I was having these visions anyway.
- 19:28what you must do is that you must want god
- 19:34more than anything you must say to yourself
- 19:39as i believe you have said there has got to be
- 19:43something more and that's very much what we said
- 19:48to ourselves after we left working with the pastors in kansas city there has got to be more
- 19:55We have seen revival.
- 19:57We've been in three revivals, in fact.
- 20:00We have seen the pastors coming together in unity and love.
- 20:06And as glorious as that is, there has got to be something more.
- 20:13And so we left to go find the something more.
- 20:19We wanted to know what the more was.
- 20:22And once you get in a heart pursuit of God,
- 20:26he will raise up to meet you on the path.
- 20:31He will say, this person is seeking me and they are desirous of me,
- 20:38not desirous of supernatural squiggly things that are going to
- 20:44make you feel wonderful and excited and disappear like Chinese food.
- 20:50No, the person is seeking me.
- 20:54They want me.
- 20:56When you seek God, then the other comes with that.
- 21:00But it's in the pursuit of God himself.
- 21:06It's a catch-22.
- 21:08Is God waiting on us or are we waiting on God?
- 21:11Well, I believe that he waits to see if you're going to do it.
- 21:15I mean, he gives everyone so much already.
- 21:18And we certainly aren't grateful.
- 21:20I mean, we're still too titillated by knowing
- 21:25this little mystery or that little mystery.
- 21:29Speaking of mysteries, I asked you a question.
- 21:35Do you ask the Lord questions?
- 21:39Do you ask him all of these mysteries?
- 21:42And I'm amazed that, yes, you've asked a few questions,
- 21:46but you're really not interested in that when you go to heaven, are you?
- 21:50I'm really not.
- 21:52What are you interested in when you go to heaven?
- 21:55I mean, I've got all sorts of questions about healing and times.
- 22:00I mean, I would sit down with my little notebook like a reporter.
- 22:10Amazing just being there.
- 22:12Even though this is more mind-blowing than anything,
- 22:16one becomes accustomed to it because you have been there many times, you know.
- 22:23And so it doesn't just rattle you every time you go.
- 22:29It's like home.
- 22:30That's like home, and here is almost like a foreign land, you know?
- 22:37But here is where you are sent to work and serve the Lord, but up there is home.
- 22:43Now, you wouldn't do my television show.
- 22:46Why wouldn't you do my television show, Anna?
- 22:48Well, I know it sounds strange.
- 22:51I know it, but the Lord asked us to be hidden.
- 22:57And when you see a face,
- 22:59then you start getting this personality along with it.
- 23:05These books are absolutely his books.
- 23:10They are not ours at all.
- 23:12I had no idea I was going to write a book at all.
- 23:17See, all I did was record the visions.
- 23:20No one was more astounded than me when the Lord said, I want this in a book.
- 23:26And I thought, I said, but who would read this?
- 23:31Who will believe me, Lord?
- 23:34That's the better question, not who would read it, who would believe it.
- 23:37Who will believe that this is true?
- 23:41But all I did was find out what he wanted
- 23:46and lift right straight from my journal what
- 23:51had been recorded and put it into the book.
- 23:57All I did was just join them together, you know?
- 24:01Of course, a lot of them weren't in there because there's just too many of them.
- 24:06But that's all I did.
- 24:09But this book's going all over the world now, and you're not even promoting it.
- 24:16Well, that's right.
- 24:18Anna Rountree, I'm talking to her in her home, which I've had the privilege of being
- 24:24in with her husband in Moravian Falls,
- 24:27North Carolina, and it was when I was there, the
- 24:31snow was coming down, and it was just the trees were there, and the air was clean, and
- 24:38It was just so enjoyable.
- 24:41Anna's been blessed to go to heaven hundreds of times,
- 24:46and she's recorded it in a book, The Heavens Opened.
- 24:51Now, Anna, I promised on yesterday's broadcast that I have so many questions.
- 24:57You know, anyone that's been to heaven hundreds of times, I've got lots of questions for.
- 25:02But one thing that I have heard from others that have had visitations to heaven, and it kind of intrigues me.
- 25:10And that's the parts room.
- 25:12Did you actually see this?
- 25:15Yes, I did.
- 25:15Tell me about it.
- 25:17Well, it was very bright in it, and there were different parts of bodies there.
- 25:24You would think that it would be gruesome, but it wasn't.
- 25:27It was like a place of holding it, like a distribution center.
- 25:33I guess you might call it something like that, a distribution center.
- 25:38And they were preparing to make these parts available to people.
- 25:44And you also told me that you saw angels in school, so to speak,
- 25:49for the next move of God's Spirit of the Miraculous.
- 25:54Tell me about that.
- 25:54Yes, yes, they were training to accompany believers on
- 26:01earth for the next move of God in a healing revival.
- 26:08And they said that there would be two angels this time
- 26:12with each person who would be receiving this gift.
- 26:15And there were hundreds, maybe thousands, I would say, of angels that were training.
- 26:22And that was only one training that I saw.
- 26:25I'm sure that there were other trainings going on or there had
- 26:30been those who had already graduated and were with the people then.
- 26:36You say in your book that the Lord was really sad over, say,
- 26:42the last healing revival because the people that had this gifting didn't
- 26:50disciple others and just kind of used it for their own benefit.
- 26:57Yes, yes. The angels were,
- 27:00some of those angels that were with those particular
- 27:06ministries told about that, that they were sad.
- 27:15For this reason the Lord was going to give two angels with
- 27:19each person this time and there were going to be many more
- 27:23Because there were not that many in the last move of the Spirit for healing.
- 27:30I mean, a great move of God, not just...
- 27:33Let's face it, even today,
- 27:35there are not that many that move from the miraculous in the United States.
- 27:41Well, that's right.
- 27:42Because it really takes the Lord initiating.
- 27:46and we can have people who move in power here and there
- 27:52and some healing when they're under the anointing
- 27:56and they're here and there.
- 27:59But for a great move of God, only God can do it.
- 28:05I'm reminded, I had the privilege of knowing Catherine Coleman
- 28:09and she used to tell the story of, she said,
- 28:12I won't be here but a day is coming
- 28:14in which Christians will go into a hospital and clear the whole hospital out.
- 28:20Do you see that?
- 28:21Yes, I do.
- 28:23I think that things are going to be
- 28:27completely so extraordinarily miraculous.
- 28:32But we must prepare now to be containers
- 28:37to hold that glory, you might say,
- 28:41because everyone just sort of waits and hops like
- 28:45bunnies or something from one move of God to the next,
- 28:50but they are unwilling to go through the cleansing and the
- 28:56maturing that the Lord needs to truly hold the greater anointing.
- 29:02Okay, Anna, I consider myself a great cheerleader for God
- 29:07and an encourager.
- 29:11And I want people to know how to get from step A to step B.
- 29:17One of my big problems in life is I have a very logical type of mind,
- 29:24and that's in faith that sometimes is a problem.
- 29:26But kind of be a coach right now.
- 29:30Tell me how to get to that next point.
- 29:32And we'll let our mishpochah eavesdrop.
- 29:35How do I prepare?
- 29:38What should I be doing, Hannah?
- 29:40Well, I think a lot of people ask that, Sid,
- 29:46when the answer is just seek God and be obedient.
- 29:55It's do what he says in the word and
- 29:59desire him more than life itself.
- 30:05Well, let me ask you a personal thing.
- 30:07I didn't happen to notice.
- 30:10I wasn't looking for it, but do you and your husband watch much television?
- 30:16No.
- 30:18Is someone that, say, gets home at night and is a form of unwinding,
- 30:25watches sports or listens to nothing bad, news,
- 30:29and spends a few hours every night just relaxing before the television,
- 30:33Is that something that God might want us to put down?
- 30:39Well, you know, each person is in an individual place before God.
- 30:45We actually got digital and we thought,
- 30:51oh, this is wonderful.
- 30:54And we got it and, you know,
- 30:57had it connected here because we were interested in it for the news.
- 31:03and as we look at that
- 31:06even the news
- 31:07it was the visual part of it
- 31:10you see
- 31:11that visual
- 31:12we used to hear radio a lot
- 31:18especially those of our age
- 31:20when we were growing up
- 31:21and it did not
- 31:25as the visual
- 31:28and the audio can
- 31:32it can consume you
- 31:33And we disconnected it
- 31:36We didn't have it even a month
- 31:38And that was for the news
- 31:39But that's us
- 31:42That's where the Lord has us
- 31:44We don't feel, Sid
- 31:46That we've got time for that
- 31:48We're down here
- 31:50Not for ourselves
- 31:51But for Him
- 31:53But wait a second
- 31:54You're not running all over the country
- 31:56Speaking at conventions
- 31:57You're not doing television
- 31:59I think it's miraculous
- 32:01that I even have you on radio.
- 32:04So what are you doing with your time?
- 32:06If you're not watching television,
- 32:07you're out in the woods with this,
- 32:09you were snowed in for a week,
- 32:11what are you and your husband doing with your time?
- 32:14Oh my gosh, we barely have enough time.
- 32:18We must be with the Lord
- 32:21and we have to pray.
- 32:24Many people want us to pray for them
- 32:26and we do.
- 32:27We don't just say,
- 32:28I'll pray for you and walk off
- 32:30you know at the supermarket we actually put that
- 32:35down and we listen for god and we study the word
- 32:40my gosh there's almost not enough time to do what
- 32:44we're doing now we we don't know we we say to
- 32:48ourselves how did we have the time to pastor that last church i mean we're just blown away that we
- 32:54had the time um when when you go to heaven uh
- 33:00is it a dream is it a vision is it uh you just
- 33:06in prayer i mean explain to me the last time you went to heaven what you were doing and and and how
- 33:12in the circumstances well it's all so different
- 33:18but um i would say uh i believe it was john that
- 33:25says i was there you know or and paul said it i
- 33:30was there you are there and i mean are you just
- 33:36close you just close your eyes and you're there is that what you're saying no no no i i wait for
- 33:41the lord to uh to let me know that he wants me to come up all right the lord let's all right
- 33:48I pray and worship him, and if he wants me to come up,
- 33:54then he will tell me to come up,
- 33:58and he provides the way.
- 34:00And there are many ways of going up.
- 34:03One of them is through a tunnel, and sometimes he just lifts you up,
- 34:09and sometimes you go in different ways, you know, stairways and things of this sort.
- 34:14I have a theory, and it was certainly not told to me by the Lord,
- 34:20but there are 15 ascents in the Bible.
- 34:24And I think there are probably 15 main ways of going to heaven.
- 34:29I think that they were really,
- 34:31what was given there in the Psalms was much more supernatural
- 34:36and with a greater knowledge
- 34:41of the Lord than we have.
- 34:48When you go to heaven, how long might this take?
- 34:54Well, you mean just traveling there?
- 34:57No, not the time to travel, but the visitation.
- 35:01Sometimes they last five hours.
- 35:04Is your husband ever in the room when you go to heaven?
- 35:06Well, he was the first time.
- 35:11Now not, because I set aside the time to do this.
- 35:18But he was actually there the first time I was taken up into heaven.
- 35:26On tomorrow's broadcast, I want you to tell me a bit about the first time you were taken up into heaven.
- 35:33Was it scary?
- 35:34no no it's just that i was i was uh not sure
- 35:39that it was uh what i thought it was i just
- 35:45it was very different uh i had seen angels down
- 35:49here intermittently i wasn't seeing angels all
- 35:53the time you know and uh i didn't address them
- 35:57they didn't address me and i just see them but
- 36:01And this was an angel who addressed me
- 36:04and required me to do something, you know.
- 36:08What did he require you to do?
- 36:10He said, come forward.
- 36:13And there were these curtains that were,
- 36:17I could only see the first one,
- 36:21an angel standing beside the opening.
- 36:24And the curtains were very thin, and there was light coming through them.
- 36:28They were blue.
- 36:28My guest, by way of telephone, I'm speaking to her at her home in Moravian Falls,
- 36:34North Carolina, is Anna Rountree.
- 36:37And most people have not heard of her, but she's had hundreds of visitations to heaven,
- 36:44and God instructed her to write it in a book.
- 36:48And although they haven't met her, her books are getting around literally around the world.
- 36:55And what they do is they increase
- 36:59your hunger to know God intimately,
- 37:04increase your hunger to not miss what God has for you in this life.
- 37:11And one of the things, Anna, that kind of overwhelms me
- 37:15is with all of your visitations to heaven and with being a writer,
- 37:22which you are and god's used your gift for his
- 37:26purposes i'm just amazed that you don't have
- 37:30your pen and pencil and and are asking thousands of questions instead you say you don't want to
- 37:37ask him any question you just want to be with
- 37:41him what is it like to be with the lord oh it's
- 37:45It's the most wonderful thing in the world.
- 37:48And to be with the Father also, it is, I mean, such pure love.
- 37:55It's very healing love.
- 37:57Had you ever experienced that type of love this side of heaven?
- 38:02Oh, absolutely not.
- 38:03No, no, nothing like it.
- 38:06Believe me.
- 38:06And truly, we come from a background that
- 38:10didn't believe that you could know the Father.
- 38:16You know, it says he lives in unapproachable light.
- 38:21And he certainly does live in unapproachable light.
- 38:25But I believe that not knowing him had to do with his faith.
- 38:30I believe the Jewish people understood that.
- 38:32You cannot see my face.
- 38:34Seeing the face is really knowing more about the person.
- 38:41But you certainly can because many people in the Bible saw the Father on the throne,
- 38:47saw his hands, his feet, the clothing.
- 38:52So other people have seen these parts of him but not his face.
- 38:59Now, is there a difference in the love that you actually from a feeling viewpoint or experiential
- 39:06viewpoint that you feel when you're with God the Father versus God the Son?
- 39:12Well, in a way, no.
- 39:16But in a way, yes.
- 39:18Because he is the Son and he is our eternal husband.
- 39:23We are betrothed to him now.
- 39:26and it is possible that we can also
- 39:30go into a formal betrothal with him.
- 39:35And the father is very fatherly, you see,
- 39:41and he acts like a father and reacts like a father.
- 39:46And the son acts and talks in a different way.
- 39:52They have different personalities,
- 39:54But as far as the essence, no, because the Lord emptied himself,
- 40:00it says, in order to receive everything from
- 40:05the Father and let that pass through him to others.
- 40:10So his expression is only what the Father shows him,
- 40:15only what the Father gives him to give does he give.
- 40:19He laid that down before the foundation of the world in order that that
- 40:25love of the Father and all that the Father had might pass through him.
- 40:32I've got a question.
- 40:34In your teaching on the betrothal, which is very, very important,
- 40:40you actually talk about things that are in a traditional Jewish betrothal.
- 40:47Not the wedding, but the betrothal itself, like a tallit.
- 40:52And you talk about what's known as the chuppah in the wedding.
- 40:57Did you see these things in heaven before you found out they were part of traditional Judaism?
- 41:05Oh, goodness, yes.
- 41:06Yes.
- 41:07Did you actually see a tallit, a prayer shawl in heaven and the chuppah?
- 41:12Yes.
- 41:12Well, the Father made that
- 41:17canopy over us with his hands.
- 41:22So he was the canopy, and it was the joining of the Father and the Son
- 41:29and the Holy Spirit at the same time in this deeper commitment.
- 41:36So the three were there.
- 41:40Three and one and one and three were there.
- 41:44uh during this period of time right at the same
- 41:49place and uh so but i i only you see when this
- 41:54happened to me said uh i mean it was the most
- 41:58extraordinary thing um and i only shared it with
- 42:02my husband because i had never heard of anything
- 42:06like this in my entire life and uh but it didn't
- 42:10make any difference it was a very private thing
- 42:14that i put into my journals you know not realizing
- 42:19that the whole world would eventually be able to read it i had no idea that the lord was going to
- 42:24say after the first book i want you to you know
- 42:29write this uh and second book you know i'm going
- 42:33to get some people upset and you don't want that oh you've got to tell me about your first experience
- 42:40of going to heaven oh oh my first experience
- 42:44well that was with albert yes you were sitting
- 42:48we were praying um we had you know you mentioned
- 42:53bob jones and uh we bob jones had given us a year
- 42:58before a prophetic word now we have known bob jones all these years but he really doesn't
- 43:04prophesy to us we're just friends of his you know
- 43:08uh but at this right before we left kansas city he
- 43:12was at a at a party um a dinner party and he gave
- 43:16us a prophetic word that during well he didn't say
- 43:20when it was going to be what what he did is that
- 43:24uh he said that we were going to have a visitation
- 43:28and we would be in a cabin.
- 43:31And then he had a young person come over
- 43:34and kneel down right beside him
- 43:36and said, now you look at them
- 43:38and tell me when they'll have this visitation.
- 43:41And the person said,
- 43:43I see two headlights kind of thing.
- 43:46He said, yes, and what else?
- 43:48He said, I see it like a tree with lights on it.
- 43:51And he said, so when will they have the visitation?
- 43:56And, of course, none of us, we were just as dense as we could be.
- 43:59And he said, Hanukkah, the Feast of Lights.
- 44:04Well, he did not know that we had booked a
- 44:09cabin and we were going to be in it as Hanukkah.
- 44:15But it didn't happen.
- 44:17It was the second Hanukkah, like the two lights for two years.
- 44:23Well, you must have been very disappointed when it didn't happen.
- 44:26Well, we were, you know, I mean, Sid, we were sitting in these straight back
- 44:32chairs facing the front door because we didn't know what a visitation looked like.
- 44:38I mean, we just didn't know.
- 44:41We just sat there during Hanukkah facing the door and we, you know,
- 44:45we said, well, this is about the way it is with us, you know.
- 44:49We don't ever have anything unusual happen to us.
- 44:52and the next year we were,
- 44:54Albert was in Kansas City to teach for the pastors up there
- 45:00and someone who was at that party said, are you ready for Hanukkah?
- 45:05And we said, well, we didn't have a visitation.
- 45:08They said, no, this Hanukkah, two lights, remember the two lights
- 45:14and we were in a cabin in Texas then
- 45:18and uh when Hanukkah rolled around we were just
- 45:21sitting there praying I must say we weren't in
- 45:25any great uh belief that anything was going
- 45:29to happen we prayed like we prayed every day
- 45:33and uh suddenly as we were praying I saw this angel standing before me
- 45:40and and the angel was standing in front of very
- 45:44very tall light blue curtain from that had light
- 45:49behind it and uh the angel said come forward and
- 45:54i got up in my spirit i'd never done that before
- 45:59i got up in my spirit and followed that angel and the two other angels parted the curtain
- 46:06And we walked through that curtain, and there was another curtain beyond that.
- 46:11And after we went through the first curtain,
- 46:15I began having an internal argument with myself.
- 46:20I said, this can't be a visitation.
- 46:24A visitation is when Jesus comes to see you, and this can't be a visitation.
- 46:29And the angel said, stop putting up his hand like that. Stop.
- 46:35And so I was arguing with myself, and I said,
- 46:39well, you know, even though this isn't what
- 46:43I think is a visitation, it's not something that I've done.
- 46:48I think I'm just going to go on and do it, you know?
- 46:51And the angel said, come forward, because he read my thoughts, you see.
- 46:57The next set of curtains were parted, and I walked through that, and greater light was
- 47:04behind that and then the third set opened
- 47:08and there was nothing but blazing white light
- 47:12and i knew though i saw nothing that first time
- 47:16that i was in the presence of god the father
- 47:20and a voice came from all that light and he said what would you have
- 47:24well i didn't know what to do but to continue
- 47:28praying what we had been praying every single
- 47:32day said i mean that's what we were praying every day and let me tell you we haven't prayed that
- 47:37since because i would pray a few things and he
- 47:41would say done uh proceed and i would just go on
- 47:46and pray those other things and he'd say done and
- 47:49i thought my word i am standing before someone
- 47:53who can say they can actually do what I am asking here.
- 48:00But I wasn't, like, proclaiming it.
- 48:03I was simply talking to my Father.
- 48:07Well, I'd really like this, you know, and that.
- 48:10When he said done, were they actually done?
- 48:14What it meant was that in the spiritual realm, it is done.
- 48:19He is bringing it about, you know.
- 48:23He is, you know, bringing these things about.
- 48:26Could you give me an example of one thing?
- 48:29Well, we ask for the gifts of the Spirit, you know.
- 48:36There's one thing.
- 48:37He's bringing that about.
- 48:40We wanted more of Christ, and that's not done in a day.
- 48:47My guest, by way of telephone, no doubt, is Red Hot for the Messiah.
- 48:51Her name is Anna Rountree.
- 48:53I'm speaking to her by phone at her home in Moravian Falls, North Carolina.
- 48:59Anna has literally had hundreds of visitations to heaven.
- 49:04And I can tell you that some very, very well-known spiritual people
- 49:10have become friends of hers and just say the most wonderful things here.
- 49:15I have a quote from Suzanne Hinn about her book, The Heavens Opened.
- 49:21That's Benny Hinn's wife.
- 49:22In this exciting book, Anna Rountree will help to take you beyond the veil into a realm where holiness,
- 49:29obedience and unconditional surrender are
- 49:31the qualifications that will take you into the very presence of the Lord.
- 49:36She shares the importance of living a life of worship that
- 49:41has caused the heavens to be opened in her own personal life,
- 49:46bringing fresh understanding of the angelic realm that has taken her into the very throne of God.
- 49:53Anna, you were explaining on yesterday's broadcast the first time you went to heaven an angel showed up.
- 49:59It was on Hanukkah.
- 50:01You were in a cabin.
- 50:02It was actually prophesied this would happen.
- 50:04and he escorted you up to
- 50:08heaven and take me from there.
- 50:14As I was telling you,
- 50:16the Lord was saying after I would ask him something,
- 50:22he would say, done, and then proceed or continue or something of that sort.
- 50:29And I just kept going on until I got through all those
- 50:34prayers that we prayed every single day together, you know.
- 50:39So I was praying them out loud because my husband could hear me praying these out loud,
- 50:46but he said he could tell that my voice changed, that I wasn't talking sort of pontificating.
- 50:53I was talking like I was talking to somebody.
- 50:58and of course I was
- 50:59and at the end
- 51:02of these prayers
- 51:04of all I could think of
- 51:05the father said step forward
- 51:08and I did
- 51:09and he laid his hands on me
- 51:11and he said
- 51:12I mean these hands of light
- 51:15came out from all of these blazing lights
- 51:17and he said receive
- 51:20and that was it
- 51:23and the angel started
- 51:25taking me backwards
- 51:26And I thought, oh, now wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
- 51:31You know, you don't think you can dig your heels in in heaven, but that's what I was doing.
- 51:36I was kind of being drug out, but I was digging my heels in because
- 51:41I had heard that people that died only got one shot at this.
- 51:46I said, oh, no, you only get one shot.
- 51:48What if I'd forgotten to ask for something?
- 51:50And I've just got to ask for something.
- 51:52And the father said, the way is open between us now.
- 51:58And if you have forgotten to ask something, you can ask me anytime.
- 52:04He knew what you were thinking.
- 52:06That's right.
- 52:07And then I went out with the angels and we went back through those curtains.
- 52:14Instead of the angels being very businesslike, as they had been before,
- 52:19they were smiling and very warm then.
- 52:25And the angels have been very warm since that first encounter.
- 52:29They were rather, I guess it was an
- 52:33official thing that they were doing.
- 52:38And so they were being official.
- 52:39What is it like to go in your spirit to heaven?
- 52:45I mean, I guess it's a weightless feeling, almost like an astronaut in space.
- 52:53Yes and no.
- 52:55It's such a natural thing that you really don't think of it like that,
- 53:01like going, you know, like that.
- 53:05It isn't like that.
- 53:07You have a spiritual body that is like your natural body,
- 53:13except that it's the age of your spiritual self.
- 53:20So that when I went to heaven, I was older than 20,
- 53:24but I was only 20 years old in my spirit, and I went as a 20-year-old.
- 53:32Oh, so in other words, each person, is it the number of years that you've been a believer
- 53:37when you say age in the spirit or how you've matured?
- 53:41I don't know.
- 53:43All I know is that I was a 20-year-old.
- 53:45And the maturity between the first and second book
- 53:50has to do that I'm older in the spirit, you know.
- 53:55Now, when you went to heaven, did you see anyone you knew?
- 53:59Yes, yes.
- 54:01I saw my father, and I mentioned that in the second book.
- 54:06I do not speak to him, but I saw him.
- 54:09Now, why didn't you speak to him?
- 54:11He was in a crowd.
- 54:13But did he know you were there?
- 54:16He saw me, and I saw him.
- 54:18Did he smile at you?
- 54:19Did he wave at you?
- 54:20No, he didn't wave.
- 54:21The circumstance was too formal for waving.
- 54:27But I saw him, you know,
- 54:29and it was very satisfying to see my father there.
- 54:35But I don't speak to the humans.
- 54:39I haven't been given to speak to humans.
- 54:41The Lord has me speaking and telling about heaven
- 54:47And how people are trained by angels
- 54:51And by the Holy Spirit, by the Son
- 54:56And by the Father himself
- 54:58Speaking of training
- 55:00Tell me about this next move
- 55:03Where you said there will be two angels
- 55:06With specific men or women
- 55:08Will this be thousands of men and women?
- 55:11that'll move in the miraculous of healing?
- 55:14Yes, I believe it will be very general.
- 55:17It will be very, very general.
- 55:20And how far off are we?
- 55:22I don't know.
- 55:23Oh, I wish I did know.
- 55:26It would be wonderful if it was tomorrow, wouldn't it?
- 55:30Well, I happen to believe it's closer rather than further away,
- 55:35which means we've got to be making up for some lost time.
- 55:39Yes, that's true. But, you know,
- 55:43like a buildup of water in a pipe, because we have been between so long,
- 55:52I think that the buildup is going to,
- 55:56that when he comes, he is going to step down and crack more
- 56:04than sideboards as he did in the Welsh revival.
- 56:10He's going to crack our hearts and things are going to be very different.
- 56:16Whether we will hold that,
- 56:19I just pray that we will hold it.
- 56:24Now what about the average person that's listening to me right now
- 56:28that's not in ministry?
- 56:31Can they be part of this next move?
- 56:34Can they have the intimacy you have?
- 56:37Can they go to heaven?
- 56:39Oh my gosh, yes.
- 56:41And I don't really think of myself in ministry.
- 56:45I was a minister's wife,
- 56:47but that's the way I spent most of my married life with my husband.
- 56:54I was simply a minister's wife.
- 56:56You know, I would teach the children,
- 57:02but I was not the leader or the –
- 57:07I wasn't what I would say in ministry.
- 57:13I'm very surprised that the Lord would use me at all.
- 57:17I honestly feel that I'm really sort of like the least.
- 57:23In fact, when we went to Arkansas and
- 57:26were in that cabin that I told you about
- 57:30in the mountains over there,
- 57:33I said to my husband something that,
- 57:37I said, I wish I had an anointing.
- 57:42And he said, well, Ann, who are you to have an anointing?
- 57:45Now, if he could say that to me, you know.
- 57:50I understand.
- 57:51Right.
- 57:52Now, when the miraculous anointing hits us,
- 57:56and it will soon, very soon, I believe.
- 58:00I believe that it'll be so strong that people won't
- 58:05have to meditate on healing scriptures for 20 years
- 58:10and confess it and do a checklist, have I done this, have I done that?
- 58:15It's just anyone in the presence of that anointing is going to get healed.
- 58:18Absolutely.
- 58:19Absolutely. When the anointing comes from the Lord, and especially in a great outpouring,
- 58:26it is so entirely supernatural, you don't have to hold your mouth right.
- 58:34Have you ever been in that type of an anointing where
- 58:38everything that you ask happens, everyone is healed?
- 58:42um i wouldn't know if everyone were healed but
- 58:45i write about that in the in the first book
- 58:49i just allude to it you know that uh that we
- 58:54had stepped into that kind of an anointing
- 58:58and it was entirely supernatural and uh and it lasted for a period of time
- 59:04and
- 59:05people were healed of everything
- 59:08they were healed of all sorts
- 59:11of things I wouldn't know if it was
- 59:12everything because these people were on
- 59:14a prayer board
- 59:15they didn't even have hands laid on them
- 59:18we were simply praying
- 59:20boy I'm looking for that day
- 59:22yeah we were just praying
- 59:24for people that were on a prayer
- 59:26board but the Lord
- 59:28unity is
- 59:31so important
- 59:31well it is
- 59:34But there is a great misconception concerning unity,
- 59:39and there are different circles, you might say, of unity.
- 59:45And I think we're to be tolerant and loving of everyone.
- 59:51But when the Lord intends to do something,
- 59:55he will bring the two or three together.
- 59:59Or as it was in the Redeemer for a major move of God, he will bring 12.
- 1:00:07Something like that.
- 1:00:08But it's very hard for that many people to be in absolute unity,
- 1:00:13their lives in complete unity.
- 1:00:16um but the two or three uh he can do that with
- 1:00:21two or three and those when those are in unity
- 1:00:26when he's brought them and they are in unity and they are obedient to pray he will do miraculous
- 1:00:33things but um and it benefits everyone you see it
- 1:00:37benefits everyone it isn't like an exclusive thing
- 1:00:42They may be the match that the Lord uses, strikes the match, you might say.
- 1:00:49He might use those prayers of those individuals.
- 1:00:54But for everyone to be in that kind of unity,
- 1:00:58I would say it's impossible, you know.
- 1:01:02We do have some very sort of childish ideas.