Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Robert Sabina, CEO of HCA Houston Healthcare Medical Center
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- 0:00This is Madeline with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast,
- 0:02and I am thrilled to be joined today
- 0:04by Robert Sabina,
- 0:06CEO of HCA Houston Healthcare Medical Center. Robert,
- 0:10thanks so much for joining me. Oh, it's
- 0:12my pleasure to be here.
- 0:14So, Robert, before we kick things off, do
- 0:16you mind sharing with our listeners just a
- 0:17little bit about your background in health care
- 0:19and more on your organization?
- 0:22Absolutely. So,
- 0:24I I've been in health care for,
- 0:26about twenty years now.
- 0:28My graduate degree is in health care administration,
- 0:30business administration from University of Minnesota. I've been
- 0:34working in the Houston market for the entirety
- 0:36of of that period of time postgraduate.
- 0:38I worked for several of the health systems
- 0:39in and around Houston,
- 0:42starting in the Texas Medical Center,
- 0:44with, Saint Luke's Episcopal Health System, and then
- 0:47moved over to another system and joined HCA
- 0:50about ten years ago now. I remember the
- 0:53day. It was 08/24/2017,
- 0:55and I remember that date because it was
- 0:56two days before hurricane Harvey. So my first
- 0:58week, was seeing the power of,
- 1:01HCA,
- 1:03responding to a catastrophic weather event, and it
- 1:06was a really powerful start for me. So
- 1:08I've been in a couple different areas, mostly
- 1:11operations
- 1:12field within health care as I moved up,
- 1:15and currently occupy the role of chief executive
- 1:18officer at our medical center facility, HCA Houston
- 1:21Healthcare Medical Center, located right here on the
- 1:23North Side of Hermann Park. Beautiful view out
- 1:26my window today on a sunny Monday afternoon,
- 1:29and, blessed to be,
- 1:31have the opportunity to to work here.
- 1:33Amazing. Thank you so much for sharing. And
- 1:35honestly, surprisingly, here in Chicago, it is also
- 1:37a sunny day. So I'm very happy to
- 1:39have some good
- 1:40weather.
- 1:41So, again, thanks for for kicking us off
- 1:43with sharing a little bit on that background
- 1:45there.
- 1:46First question I have for you here. So
- 1:47April was National Volunteer Month. With this in
- 1:50mind, could you share how HCA Houston Healthcare
- 1:53Medical
- 1:54Center approaches its volunteer program,
- 1:57and what role do student volunteers play in
- 1:59this day to day life at your facility?
- 2:02Yeah. Thanks for the question. I'll I'll I'll
- 2:04start at a higher level in saying, you
- 2:05know, our approach to volunteerism here at HCA
- 2:08Medical Center is a pretty simple one. You
- 2:09know, we want it to be meaningful for
- 2:11the for the volunteers,
- 2:13but also really connected to what the needs
- 2:15are of the facility.
- 2:16And so volunteers really integrated into the part
- 2:19of the day to day experience for our
- 2:20patients, visitors,
- 2:22and our clinical care teams. Anywhere from greeting
- 2:24patients as they come in the front entrance,
- 2:26welcoming them to our facility, walking them throughout
- 2:29the facility, help them wayfinding,
- 2:32supporting in areas like surgery,
- 2:33reception, the the emergency department,
- 2:35and assisting with, various administrative tasks,
- 2:39that are needed, across the facility.
- 2:41For students in particular, though, that's a really
- 2:43valuable kinda intersection
- 2:45between,
- 2:47you know, value to the student volunteer as
- 2:49well as value to the organization.
- 2:51Value to organizations is the same when it
- 2:53comes to supporting our our administrative and,
- 2:56clinical departments,
- 2:57but value to the individual as they get
- 2:59this exposure to health care for the maybe
- 3:01the first time, or maybe seeing it, in
- 3:04the acute setting for the first time, which
- 3:06can be a much more complex,
- 3:08interplay of departments and roles and personnel
- 3:12than many of the, the other settings of
- 3:14health care. And so for them to try
- 3:16out and say, is this something that I'm
- 3:17passionate about? Get exposure to it firsthand, see
- 3:20it with their own eyes,
- 3:22and then maybe be,
- 3:24generate an interest in in health care as
- 3:26a profession. And and we partner with several
- 3:29training programs,
- 3:31throughout the Houston market and throughout the country,
- 3:33really,
- 3:34to
- 3:35pipeline these volunteers then into clinical roles and
- 3:38then up up through advanced clinical roles if
- 3:39that's their desire. So it really is a
- 3:41great opportunity for them to get exposure on
- 3:43the front end and support our our mission,
- 3:46and clinical enterprise along the way.
- 3:48That's so cool to hear. And, you know,
- 3:50volunteering obviously is just so important in the
- 3:52first place, but also getting exposure to an
- 3:55industry that, you know, one of our main
- 3:56challenges has been workforce
- 3:58recruiting, retaining. So maybe on, like, a a
- 4:01broader level, could you share the value of
- 4:03exposing these these young people to these types
- 4:06of environments
- 4:08and and kind of working on that recruitment,
- 4:09retaining? Any examples you can share, maybe how
- 4:12this might hopefully shape their perspective on a
- 4:14health care career?
- 4:16Yeah, absolutely. And actually, I use a personal
- 4:19example from one of our executives. Awesome. Yeah.
- 4:21This really can be a, a powerful,
- 4:25life altering experience for for for folks.
- 4:28We have a senior executive at the hospital
- 4:31today that twenty five years ago started as
- 4:33a volunteer in an emergency department, one of
- 4:35our sister facilities within the Gulf Coast division
- 4:38of HCA. Wow. And, started there as volunteer,
- 4:41moved on into a PCT role because
- 4:44his,
- 4:45interest in health care was sparked by seeing
- 4:47it firsthand. Right? Being able to kinda put
- 4:49your eyes on it, making health care feel
- 4:51real. What does it actually look like
- 4:53in person, versus, you know, what do I
- 4:55imagine health care to be? And and that
- 4:57passion was ignited in him. And, you know,
- 4:59he moved into a PCT role, a patient
- 5:01care tech support role, then went on to
- 5:03nursing school supported by HCA,
- 5:06moved into leadership over the course of his
- 5:08next fifteen years of his career, and eventually
- 5:10into executive leadership at multiple campuses. And so
- 5:13a real
- 5:15success story of building a career that was
- 5:17sparked by that initial
- 5:19exposure to volunteerism
- 5:20in one of our emergency departments throughout the
- 5:22facility.
- 5:23Health care is a complex field, and it
- 5:25can feel intimidating.
- 5:27I mean, you you see it on some
- 5:28of these TV shows, and it was,
- 5:30you know,
- 5:31it's it's made to look
- 5:33exciting.
- 5:34It's not always that, but it's but it's
- 5:35always interesting.
- 5:36Yeah. And it can be intimidating for these
- 5:38for these young folks. But to expose them
- 5:40to that early, just to show them what
- 5:41health care looks like actually at the bedside
- 5:44and and in these organizations,
- 5:46really broadens their perspective and and allows them
- 5:48to, think about not just one role, but
- 5:50but health care is a combination of many,
- 5:52many different roles. And and and maybe there's
- 5:54something that appeals to them whether it's a
- 5:56doctor or nurse,
- 5:58or radiology tech,
- 6:00or or a transporter. Right? I mean, what
- 6:02where's your passion and how do you connect
- 6:04that if health care and altruism
- 6:06and and supporting
- 6:08human
- 6:09life, and the care of human life is
- 6:10something that you're passionate about.
- 6:12Yeah. The sky's the limit for these younger
- 6:14volunteers and getting that hands on work, I'm
- 6:16sure, is so exciting to many of them.
- 6:19So thanks for sharing that awesome example.
- 6:21And as I mentioned at the beginning of
- 6:22the podcast, April was National Volunteer Month, and
- 6:26it's a moment to recognize service. But, obviously,
- 6:28at organizations like yours, volunteers are a part
- 6:31of this fabric year round.
- 6:33So how do you think about the relationship
- 6:35between community service and that long term health
- 6:38care workforce pipeline even even further? Like, what
- 6:41do you envision in three to five years
- 6:43with this program?
- 6:45Yeah. Obviously,
- 6:46you know, it it's an important,
- 6:48kind of dipping the toe in the water.
- 6:51Volunteerism really where community service, and future opportunity
- 6:55kinda come together.
- 6:57Volunteer month in particular, it's a great time
- 6:59to recognize contributions, but but also to reconnect
- 7:02as, health care professionals who've chosen this profession
- 7:05maybe a decade or two decades or three
- 7:07decades or more ago. We have one fifty
- 7:09year employee here who was here in 1975
- 7:12when doors opened. And and so we we
- 7:14provide opportunities,
- 7:16to connect with the community even today for
- 7:18our leadership teams, our bedside colleagues,
- 7:21with partner organizations throughout the Houston market. But
- 7:24for students, it really becomes the starting point,
- 7:27of of their,
- 7:29you know, connection to community service, for many
- 7:32of them, particularly our Volonteen program. So they
- 7:34come in, they give it what whatever time
- 7:36they can, and along the way, they start
- 7:37asking questions about, you know, where they might
- 7:39fit in health care or in in service
- 7:42in another way because health care really is
- 7:45a service oriented,
- 7:47or, you know, profession and calling.
- 7:49And that's how interest can sometimes when we
- 7:51see it, you know, in every one of
- 7:53these classes, every one of these volunteering programs,
- 7:56interest turns into direction,
- 7:58whether that's towards nursing school or towards,
- 8:01the medical school or or towards one of
- 8:02our,
- 8:03allied health programs.
- 8:05So it really becomes this this connection to
- 8:08I can do something, make a living doing
- 8:10it, and do it with a service mentality
- 8:13and mindset.
- 8:14Creating those early experiences really helps students explore
- 8:16and build confidence and and begins to see
- 8:18themselves,
- 8:19as a future in health care. Yeah. And
- 8:21I have to ask you too. I mean,
- 8:23again, touching on the fact that here at
- 8:25Becker's even, we've covered a lot of workforce
- 8:27challenges,
- 8:28recruiting, retaining, all the things,
- 8:30even the cost behind it. So what does
- 8:32it mean for you as a CEO to
- 8:34to sit back and watch these young people,
- 8:36you know, light up when they're around,
- 8:38health care workers and and really start to
- 8:40see maybe a future passion there.
- 8:42You know what? It it reminds me of,
- 8:44going back to when I started in health
- 8:46care, and I and I wasn't a clinician.
- 8:48You know, I came into health care with
- 8:50an engineering background.
- 8:52Mhmm. And it kinda speaks to the what
- 8:54turns you on about this profession?
- 8:56I had a an interest in being in
- 8:58a serving, you know, servant organization, something that
- 9:01gives back some altruistic,
- 9:03bent to it. And,
- 9:05for me, what I like to do is
- 9:07solve complex problems. And so I I see
- 9:09and that's how I got in health care.
- 9:10But when I see these students connect the
- 9:12dots and see how many
- 9:14diverse
- 9:15professional
- 9:16opportunities there are to pursue Yeah. And they
- 9:18get excited about that, it really it reignites
- 9:21the fire in me.
- 9:22And it's a really powerful,
- 9:24perspective to have,
- 9:26the the young folks coming in particularly and
- 9:28seeing,
- 9:30something that that really
- 9:32really turns them on to a profession that
- 9:34is
- 9:35a profession of giving. Yeah. And so the
- 9:38experiential aspect of that is really where there's
- 9:40power, and and and we know certainly as
- 9:42adults, but even even younger folks, experiential learning
- 9:45and and and really getting that hands on
- 9:48experience,
- 9:49where they can see the pace that the
- 9:51teamwork, which is obviously critical in healthcare,
- 9:53and then the humanity, the human side of
- 9:56it.
- 9:57How people communicate and support one another and
- 9:59make a difference in these people's lives that
- 10:00are coming to us in in some of
- 10:02their toughest moments.
- 10:04It's a powerful thing that that that can't
- 10:06be replicated in a lot of professions, and
- 10:08I I think that, you know, that that
- 10:10reminds us all of of why we got
- 10:12in this this industry in the first place.
- 10:14And it's just a powerful, perspective to to
- 10:17have as part of our clinical team.
- 10:19Yeah. That is so true there. But for
- 10:20a student who might even be on the
- 10:22fence about whether medicine is the right path
- 10:24for them,
- 10:25what would you say
- 10:27this hospital volunteer experience offers them that maybe
- 10:30a textbook or classroom
- 10:32maybe couldn't?
- 10:34No. It's a great question. You know, I'm
- 10:35a big fan of the,
- 10:37the man in the arena quote, and I
- 10:38think this this kinda speaks to that, which
- 10:40is experience is is the best,
- 10:43perspective provider.
- 10:45So for hospitals, you know, students can experience
- 10:48all diverse kind of sets of what it
- 10:50really looks like to care for patients. And
- 10:51it's it's it's always rewarding. It's often rewarding.
- 10:55It's,
- 10:56not always exactly what you'd picture it would
- 10:58be, but by gaining that real world experience,
- 11:00you can really understand, hey. Is this something
- 11:02that I can see myself doing?
- 11:04You know, theory in classroom is important and
- 11:06critical to the learning process, but that hands
- 11:08on
- 11:09putting knowledge to practice, putting experiential
- 11:13learning, into the the kind of scaffold of
- 11:15knowledge that these these folks have, just a
- 11:18critical component to connecting to the why of
- 11:21is this something that I that I'm passionate
- 11:23about as a profession and and I could
- 11:25see myself doing with my life?
- 11:27Yeah. For sure. I mean, even for someone
- 11:28like myself, like, to have that hands on
- 11:30experience, I feel like would be,
- 11:32more of
- 11:34a, like, interest to me than maybe just
- 11:36reading about it. Right? So, like, that is
- 11:37such a important component of this. So well,
- 11:41Robert, thank you so much for sharing more
- 11:43about this volunteer program and and the examples
- 11:46you provided today. Very important topic,
- 11:48and it's been such a pleasure speaking with
- 11:50you. We're excited to chat with you again
- 11:51sometime soon. It's been a pleasure speaking with
- 11:53you as well. Thank you very much for
- 11:55the time. Thank you.