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F1 2025 Season & Australian GP Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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  it's laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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  the boys yo yo welcome back to banter with the
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  boys fast the laps we're back i'm yelling i'm
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  yelling uh i feel like the tasmanian you know
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  what i mean like it's time to go fellas that
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  was a lot thought i was gonna come hot out of
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  the gate but you did it for me i'm a little scared
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  oh joe welcome back i am so excited to be back
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  i this is like the one thing i've been talking
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  like people tell me what are you looking forward
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  to this year it's been this i am so excited we're
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  going racing again this weekend a lot of stuff
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  happened over the over the winter break which
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  isn't even that long when you actually look at
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  it on a calendar it's not it's a long it's a
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  long season march to december it's crazy but
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  we're already back back at it again and mike
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  is going to be joining us, hopefully, for all
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  season, or at least... As much as I can, you
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  know? I'm going to be here as much as possible.
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  Well, we'll see. This one's got to go well first.
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  Yeah. And then we'll make the... If they let
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  me back. We'll make the executive decision. If
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  you just see me making notes, don't worry about
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  it. Okay, yeah. Mm -hmm. Yep, yep. Oh, my gosh.
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  And obviously, don't forget Kev behind the scenes
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  here making everything happen for us. Audio,
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  video for our YouTube folk. But before we move
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  right into the offseason recap, Mike's got something
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  on his heart. So. For people who are unaware,
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  Joe and I have a little bit of a history of getting
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  each other Christmas presents. Oh, no. And I
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  didn't give you your Christmas present right
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  away, so I figured what better place to do that
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  than here on the pod. Oh, no. I was thinking
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  about this the other day. I was like, I know
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  Mike got me something. He just hasn't given it
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  to me yet. Oh, my gosh. It's in a box, too. By
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  the way, it is March. It is March right now.
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  And they are friends, actually. They see each
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  other. We've seen each other once or twice, yeah.
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  So I got you a little something. I hope that
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  you enjoy this. Oh, no. Kevin, if you want to
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  put it on my camera. Oh, man. Is that from his
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  store? Oh, man. This is the four -time world
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  champion Max Verstappen shirt. Wouldn't you know,
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  for your favorite driver. For the Max Verstappen
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  fan. You know what has to happen now, right?
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  What's that? Kev, can we pause for a second?
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  Whoa. Yeah, let's pause for a second. And we're
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  back at it. Oh, Joe's back wearing the Max Verstappen
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  shirt. His favorite driver. Congratulations.
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  My favorite driver. Yay! It's me. It's me, Max
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  Verstappen. Was that the gift last year? That
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  was the gift last year. So for our Spotify listeners,
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  there's a, I don't know, a gift wrapped stick
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  with a Max Verstappen face on the end of it.
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  We just have all the props this season. This
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  is excellent. I'm loving this so far. It's a
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  pretty nice shirt. It probably will be the only
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  time I wear it. That's fair. Tell you what. If
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  this guy comes with his fifth WDC, I'll be wearing
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  this for that episode. Okay. I look forward to
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  that. All right. We got it. I'll come decked
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  out. I'll get a hat. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He's talking
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  about spending money on him now. Yeah. Oh, my
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  gosh. Well, with that. Again, if you're watching
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  on YouTube, you get to enjoy Joe wearing his
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  favorite driver for the rest of this episode.
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  With that, let's head right into our off -season
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  recap. And to start off our off -season recap,
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  it has been a long day. um been a long off season
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  uh with that this is a real quick recap but if
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  you have anything to say let's let's talk about
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  it uh liam to red bull uh obviously a lot of
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  us had some questions i'm in the question crowd
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  personally but i want to hear what you guys gotta
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  say yeah probably the i mean the most anticipated
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  news leaving last season uh because i don't think
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  it was confirmed until like off season right
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  that sounds like just just a little bit after
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  yeah uh I guess I don't know what to say. I definitely
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  don't think either. I don't think Liam even really
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  proved himself that much. I don't think. I don't
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  think Yuki did either, but he's the obvious choice
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  for me over anyone, right? Yuki over Liam? Yeah.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Me too. There's an
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  argument, I guess. They saw Liam in the car.
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  They put Max and Liam side by side in the same
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  car, and Liam was only a couple tenths off. It
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  was like, yeah, but Danny was the same thing,
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  and he's out of the sport now. There's been races
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  where Sergio has done. The same. Yeah. So my
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  thing is, it's like, if Liam comes in here and
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  is doing the same thing as Sergio's doing, or
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  did, it's like, is that really a win? Like, if
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  Liam consistently, let's say, gets P8 through
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  P10, you know what I mean? Can he get better
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  than P8 consistently? I mean, without getting
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  into our predictions, we'll wait on that, right?
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  If he's doing P8 to P10, he's already beating
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  Checo. So, I mean, let's be fair. Yes and no.
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  It also depends on where Verstappen is and what
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  the car's doing, right? Yeah, and do they give
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  him grace? Like, knowing that he's a semi -rookie?
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  Yes, considering he's got a car. Like, when I
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  didn't think he'd be in V -Carb, at least, I
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  figured. They gave Pierre half a season. Right.
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  Was it even a full half season? I don't even
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  know. I think it was a full half season. Yeah,
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  and then Albon finished. He had been driving
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  in AlphaTauri for a while at that point, though.
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  Right, right, right. So, I mean, they can't afford
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  to let Liam, you know. rune races or not finish
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  well consistently yeah for sure what are they
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  gonna do right would they do a mid -season swap
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  if it was like uh if it's if it's going with
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  with yuki obviously is what i'm not isaac we'll
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  get to god forbid isaac hajar is just like lighting
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  up yeah the circuit which i mean we'll get into
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  but like they brought liam and they could bring
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  him in i mean it's And I know Christian Horner
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  is a big Isaac Hajar fan. He's been fighting
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  for this guy since day one. So, I mean, I guess
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  maybe. And clearly they have no interest in Yuki
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  for whatever reason. Yeah, I think if I'm Yuki,
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  I'm looking out. Looking to get out ASAP out
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  of the Red Bull organization. Hamilton to Ferrari,
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  obviously we kind of knew that one. It's so weird
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  seeing him in red. It's hard for me to talk about
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  that without getting into predictions personally
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  because I don't – I'll just hold it. I'll hold
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  it for later. I'll hold it for later. I mean,
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  you can say what you want without saying what
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  you think he's going to be. I just think it's
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  not going to be drastically different than last
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  season for Lewis. I will agree with you. I think
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  it could be better, and it probably will be better,
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  but I don't think it's going to be drastically
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  better. And Ferrari brought a new car. a year
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  away from new regs so i just i don't know it
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  just seems weird what they're doing i i like
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  the move of bringing hamilton in though i think
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  and then if you had to make the decision if you
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  already had that plan you had to make the decision
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  between charles and and carlos i think you made
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  the right decision you know as hard as it is
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  to move on from carlos and as hard as it is to
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  see him go to a you know mid mid -pack car you
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  know but You could make the argument that maybe
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  that decision shouldn't have been made at all.
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  They just kept both Charles and Carlos. But when
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  Lewis Hamilton comes knocking on your door, are
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  you going to not take him? How do you not take
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  one of the greatest drivers of all time? It doesn't
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  happen. It's just a shame. Yeah. Shame for Carlos.
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  Shame for Carlos. Shame for Carlos. I mean, good
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  for Lewis. We'll see. Hey, he could rejuvenate
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  and set the record, right? He definitely needs
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  a fresh car, I would say. Yeah. Well, this is
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  about as fresh as he's going to get a brand new
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  car. Yep. So. And testing. We'll get to testing.
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  All right. Botas to Mercedes as a reserve. But
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  rumor has it that Botas could have been a reserve
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  anywhere. Like, there was multiple teams interested
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  in him. Maybe a team would make a play to somehow
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  obtain him. You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel
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  like. If they needed one. For any reason. Merc
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  is where he belongs, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah.
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  For sure. Like, if Kimmy wasn't in the car, I
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  think Botas would have been in the car. Yeah.
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  And, I mean, kind of speaking of Kimmy, I don't
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  think he's on our list for this quick recap,
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  but, I mean, if Kimmy can't hack it, they should
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  put Botas in. Yeah. We'll get the Kimmy. Right?
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  Yeah. Well, Kimmy's also not on our rookie look,
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  but we'll talk about him there, too, which is
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  in just a moment. Just a moment. Colapinto to
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  Alpine. So this is interesting, and I don't know
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  who put this in here, but rumors to take. Mr.
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  Jack, is it Doohan? Doohan. Doohan. I've heard
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  it so many ways, and today I've been listening
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  to a lot of F1 podcasts, so it's all coming from
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  across the pond, so they say it completely different.
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  But old Jackson. I think it's weird for Alpine
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  to sign Colapinto to a long -term deal. It's
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  a five -year deal. As a reserve driver. I think
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  Alpine has sent a message to do at this point.
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  This is the sort of Damocles over your head.
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  You better compete with Pierre because if you
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  don't, there's an Argentinian axe coming down.
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  And they say that's not the case, but come on.
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  Come on. Come on. You don't sign a reserve driver
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  for that long after running a few races in F1
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  last year. Like, okay, you have plans for him.
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  Flavio giveth, Flavio taketh away. He's known
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  to be cutthroat. That is his shtick. So is this
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  more of a trial run for Duane to try to get a
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  job somewhere else? You know what I mean? To
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  put his name on the map? Bro just wants a drive,
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  right? That's what I mean. And this is his opportunity,
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  right? But that's, you know, it's to that point.
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  If he can't keep up with Pierre, like, well.
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  But here's the thing. We have Colapinto, who
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  has been in many full races. He has not done
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  super well, per se. He didn't end the season
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  well. He had a really strong start. But, yeah,
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  he didn't really, like, you know, fulfill, I
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  would say, by the end. But he still has good
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  experience. So, like, it wouldn't be, like, a
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  crazy. It would be crazy to see it happen, but
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  it wouldn't be a crazy thought to be like, you
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  know, Doohan gets last place the first two races,
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  throw Colapinto in there. Like two races, obviously
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  insane. But I mean, I've been, I've been hearing.
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  like there's like twitter is sitting here talking
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  about like potentially as early as them axing
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  him this weekend and i'm like that which is such
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  that's crazy like especially not with what is
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  rubbish his home race like i've heard that a
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  lot today rubbish is duhan is he is he australian
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  is he new zealand i think he's new zealand okay
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  I think so. I thought he was British. No, I think
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  he's right. That means that Australia is basically
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  his home race. No, Jack Dewan is Australian.
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  He is Australian. Apologies, Newfies. So this
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  is his home race. Oh, man, that's exciting. Well,
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  we'll see. He's got to start hot. He's got to
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  start hot. Joe to Ferrari in the reserve role.
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  That's a good move for Joe. Yeah, I feel bad
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  for Joe. He got thrown in a bad car and then
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  had a bad season. He did, but at least he's reserved
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  for a team that, again, will get into this season.
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  whatever you think but at least the team that's
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  probably going to come out of the gate at least
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  probably still in that top four range next season
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  you know what i mean so he's still a part of
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  a good organization yeah right oh absolutely
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  and we've seen reserve drivers make moves like
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  we could see joe in a hoss you know in a couple
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  years down when possibly esteban can't deliver
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  again or something like that oh boy well and
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  then and then you know cadillacs joining we'll
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  get to that uh you know there's gonna be two
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  seats open for that uh andy cowell To ask Martin
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  as the team principal? Yeah, was he from somewhere?
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  Was he from? No, not Red Bull. Ollie's from Red
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  Bull, right? Ollie's from Red Bull. Okay. He
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  is from somewhere. I don't remember where. I
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  can check really quickly. Probably Red Bull.
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  Joe's already on it. It is probably Red Bull.
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  Probably Red Bull. They've been siphoning people
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  off Red Bull like crazy. I think it was Red Bull.
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  Yeah, he was an engineer at Red Bull. Yep, that
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  makes sense. Of course he was. That's what I
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  thought. Oh, no. It was Mercedes? Mercedes high
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  -performance powertrains. It was Mercedes, not
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  Red Bull. Red Bull tried to sign Andy Cole, apparently.
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  Oh, interesting. But he went to Aston. To work
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  with Newey. That stroll check, baby. I mean,
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  that too. That too. All right. All right. Rookies,
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  rookies, rookies. We're going to be talking about
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  these guys. literally all season so we don't
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  need to spend a ridiculous ton but there's gonna
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  be a lot of rookies in the field i don't know
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  the most since what do you think i don't even
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  know i should have looked that up most rookies
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  in on the grid oh probably since i don't even
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  know like it's gotta be crazy has there ever
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  been that many 2017 or something like that Like,
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  you know, Jack, I still consider a rookie. Liam
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  is not probably classified a rookie. 2001, there
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  were seven rookies. Holy crap. So it's been a
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  while. And 2025 has six now. So what's your take
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  then on Ollie Bierman? I'm really excited, especially
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  after everything we saw last year. I think Ollie
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  has potential to be one of the best out of these
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  rookies. Now, that doesn't mean he's going to
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  get the most points because he is in a Haas.
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  Correct. Obviously, I think it's fair to assume
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  that Kimi is probably going to get the most points
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  out of all of the new drivers because he's in
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  the best car. But with that said, I think he's
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  got some of the most potential. I don't think
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  he has the most potential, but he's up there.
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  Okay. Fair enough. You're excited to have him,
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  though. I am. I'm very excited. As a Haas fan.
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  As one of the 12 Haas fans. As one of the 12
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  Haas fans. We are excited. Wearing it proudly.
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  Jack Duhan, we've already talked about Jack,
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  really. Oh, I also have an Alpine hat now for
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  this season. He's a real F1 fan now. Pierre,
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  I'm a real F1 fan after six years. Technically,
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  third Fast Lap season, we got you a hat. Yeah,
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  yeah, we're starting the third Fast Lap season.
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  I finally have something F1 related to wear on
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  the show that we do, this thing here. Yeah, yeah.
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  Set to possibly be replaced. Okay, Isaac Hajar.
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  Yes, Isaac Hajar. I think he'll do all right
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  in the V car. What do you think, Joe? Oh, yeah,
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  I think he was incredibly strong in his F2 showing.
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  I think he was consistently battling with Gabriel
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  for the championship. and he was up there almost
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  if we were to put them in last year's cars obviously
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  he'd be scoring more points than gabrielle would
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  so i think i think he's i don't know if he's
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  gonna match yuki but i don't think he's gonna
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  be far off i think he he has a good opportunity
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  to really like you know get there i don't know
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  if i go quite that far in his first season i
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  think he's probably gonna blunder a little bit
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  i think he's gonna run away with it this season
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  but i do think that he will score a couple of
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  points how many points just a couple just a couple
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  just a couple just wait until we get to my talks
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  about constructors oh boy all right all right
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  let's keep moving uh gabriel uh bordoletto hey
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  he's the f2 champion i'm so real crappy car yeah
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  i was gonna yeah i was just about to say the
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  same thing no no don't you don't have anything
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  to be sorry about it's unfortunate but he gets
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  he gets a drive that's what matters straight
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  up does he beat hulk No. God, no. I don't think
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  so. No chance. Hulk's been in the sport forever.
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  He has, but the car's so bad. He's the second
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  most seasoned driver on the grid. Yeah. I mean,
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  we got to compare him with Joe pretty much, right?
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  Yeah. And Joe did. There were some races when
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  Joe was a little bit of a Botas, but neither
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  of them were making points. Well, the car would
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  never really finish a race. They would start
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  hot, and you're like, oh, we could see a point
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  or something, and then you could just, nah. As
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  I am like, Number one Bortoletto fan. I'm so
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  excited for him. I think he's only going to score
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  maybe two or three points. That's pretty optimistic,
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  I would say. I don't think he's scoring any points.
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  I don't think so either. I think Hulk's lucky
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  to get a point. I think we see Nico get a couple
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  points this season. Not too many, just a few.
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  Tell us just a couple fun facts about Bortoletto.
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  What do you mean? Just like he was F2 champion.
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  What else is cool about him? Did he do well in
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  F3? That's his biggest accolade. He won some
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  other championship. God, what the heck was it?
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  I was like listening to him because like when
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  I first heard about him, I know he's from the
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  McLaren. McLaren. The McLaren. Academy. Academy.
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  Yeah. McLaren Academy. And he's he was like a
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  big rising star in the McLaren Academy. He was
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  like Zach Brown was putting a bunch of money
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  and a bunch of time into him and basically was
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  like, hey, my drivers aren't going anywhere,
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  but I want this guy to do something and he's
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  going to be really good. So he shipped him off.
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  Yeah. And that's how like. Kicks Albert picked
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  him up. I didn't mean to put you on the spot.
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  You said he was a numbers fan, so I thought you
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  might have. I'm just excited. I got you. He was
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  an F3 champ, too. Dope, dope. A fun fact about
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  him, his manager is Fernando Alonso. Really?
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  Yes. I love it. This is a weird plug for F1.
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  They released a rookie roundtable today on YouTube.
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  Really fun watch. They all act like school kids.
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  The interviewer had to shush them down for part
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  of the interview because they just started ranting.
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  Yeah, Bortoletto, I think it's unfortunate he's
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  in a kick because he looks like he could be a
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  big competitor as well. But remember, that kick
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  is going to be in Audi next year. And they're
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  probably just going to... They're going to be
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  garbage. But I am riding the Coke train. I am
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  too. Trust me. They're going to be good. I'm
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  not riding it as hard as you are. They're going
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  to be good. You guys are dreamers, man. Okay.
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  Kimi Antonelli. I mean, like you said, he's in
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  the best position to score the most points out
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  of all of them. Does he, though? I mean, yeah.
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  Who's going to beat him? We'll talk about, I
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  guess, I mean, we're about to get into preseason.
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  Hypothetically, we'll get into it. But, like,
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  between, like. him and liam like can he can he
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  consistently beat out liam oh you know i actually
• 19:23
  don't know i actually don't know um the other
• 19:27
  liam's on the track because i think it's gonna
• 19:30
  try to clear it up i won't know i won't have
• 19:32
  a good opinion until we see them race like until
• 19:34
  we see the cars race specifically well which
• 19:37
  is a because kimmy kimmy crashed a couple times
• 19:40
  last year I'm sorry, dude. The line he said last
• 19:43
  year where he wasn't fully ready or whatever
• 19:45
  after that F2 race. Yeah. I get it. Did you not
• 19:50
  like it? He was just trying to be humble, but
• 19:51
  not saying that he's pretty much saying he's
• 19:54
  not ready. So I'm just concerned about possible
• 19:57
  carnage this year with Kimmy. I don't know. I
• 20:00
  appreciate a humble Kimmy. No, for sure. And
• 20:04
  a lot of people are sitting here trying to compare
• 20:07
  him to Max Verstappen. Do we remember what Max
• 20:10
  Verstappen? Kimmy, Kimmy. Do we remember what
• 20:14
  Max Verstappen's first year or two looked like?
• 20:17
  He spent a lot of time in the barriers. Like,
• 20:20
  Max crashed quite a bit. And so I think we could
• 20:23
  see some of that out of Kimmy, too, because Kimmy's
• 20:24
  just trying to push really, really hard and prove
• 20:27
  that he's got that pace. Sure. And so... I think...
• 20:32
  There's a chance Liam could outscore him. If
• 20:34
  cars match recent form, Liam's going to be ahead,
• 20:39
  especially because Liam has two half seasons
• 20:42
  of experience. Liam should be ahead of Kimmy.
• 20:46
  Yeah, I agree. As long as Red Bull did not completely
• 20:48
  destroy their car over the offseason, which I
• 20:51
  don't think they have. They've made a lot of
• 20:52
  minor adjustments, allegedly, according to Horner,
• 20:56
  that you can't see. That also being said, if
• 21:00
  Kimmy does not score any points for the first
• 21:02
  five races, do they sub Botas in? Is that a simple
• 21:09
  switch? Can you just sub a reserve into that
• 21:12
  spot? I don't know if I've seen Merc do that
• 21:14
  stuff before. Can you, though? I think you can.
• 21:18
  They're on the same team. I mean, they did that
• 21:20
  with Red Bull. They kicked Danny, and then they
• 21:24
  brought Liam in, and he was a reserve driver
• 21:26
  for them. Yeah, but Danny was injured. No, this
• 21:29
  was last season. Oh, yeah, last season. Oh, you
• 21:31
  know what? Actually, good point. No, I'm valid.
• 21:33
  Sorry. Yeah. You know what? Fair point. But that's
• 21:34
  Red Bull. Merc, I don't know if I've seen them
• 21:36
  do something like that before. I think Mercedes,
• 21:39
  if... With Botas lurking. You know what I mean?
• 21:41
  I'd like to think they have more class, but it's
• 21:43
  possible because they have Botas on the sidelines
• 21:46
  that they could be like, if Kimi just isn't...
• 21:49
  There's no way he does his four points. Oh, yeah,
• 21:51
  I agree. There's no way. You know what I mean?
• 21:52
  He's got to be scoring. I'm not a Kimi fan. I
• 21:54
  don't think he's going to be awesome right out
• 21:56
  of the gate. But, like, there's no way. I bet
• 21:58
  he scores at least a few. Oh, I think so. I think
• 22:01
  if Kimi is just not scoring at all, and if George
• 22:05
  is struggling, too, I think Mercedes might even
• 22:08
  just be like, you know what? It's not our season.
• 22:11
  Regulation changes next year. Kimi, get used
• 22:14
  to the car. Take the season. Get used to the
• 22:17
  car. We're going to focus on next year. They'll
• 22:20
  still bring a couple upgrades here and there
• 22:21
  to stay in top four, you know. But aside from
• 22:25
  that, they're just going to focus on next year.
• 22:27
  Like, can we get the experience? And then go
• 22:31
  from there. I would even go as far as to say
• 22:33
  that might be what they're doing already. Very
• 22:35
  possibly. 100%. We want to come in with a really
• 22:37
  fast car, but really, we're getting Kimi up to
• 22:39
  speed. We're getting ready for next year. It's
• 22:42
  unfortunate that we might match what we did last
• 22:43
  year. We're hoping the car's at least a little
• 22:45
  better. I think they're going to come out of
• 22:47
  the gate firing next year. Mercedes. All right.
• 22:52
  Caddy. Cadillac. Officially joins us. This last
• 22:55
  week, yeah. This last week is official. How are
• 22:57
  you guys feeling about it? Are you guys excited?
• 22:59
  I got so mad. I saw somebody say, I'm so excited.
• 23:02
  to finally see an American team on the track.
• 23:05
  Oh my gosh. That's actually funny. My dad emailed
• 23:09
  me because he emailed me the headline of Caddy
• 23:12
  joining. I'm like, you know there's already an
• 23:14
  American team on the track. I'll talk to him.
• 23:17
  He's getting a text from me tonight. And what's
• 23:19
  funny is that Haas is like a manufacturing company
• 23:22
  and he's like in manufacturing himself. So I'm
• 23:25
  like, you should know this. And he's like, I
• 23:27
  don't care. No, yeah. I'm looking forward to
• 23:31
  it. It means. Two more drivers get seats, right?
• 23:33
  Yeah, I'm so excited. Rule changes. Rules kind
• 23:35
  of have to be thrown up a little bit with a 21st,
• 23:38
  11th team, rather. 22 drivers. Are they bringing
• 23:45
  their own engine? They are, yeah? They are, yes,
• 23:47
  but not until 2028. They said that they aren't
• 23:50
  expecting their new engine until at the earliest
• 23:53
  end of this decade. Are they taking Merc engine
• 23:58
  then next year? They're taking the Ferrari engine.
• 24:01
  Okay, yeah, okay. They're going to take the Ferrari
• 24:03
  engine. They'll be driving under Ferrari for
• 24:06
  three to four years, and then they hope to have
• 24:10
  their own powertrain built by the end of the
• 24:11
  decade. Ferrari is an American engine manufacturer.
• 24:14
  I guess. To spark the team with PR and funds,
• 24:19
  it's going to be Danny Rick and either Sergio
• 24:24
  makes a return or Yuki. I don't think it can
• 24:28
  be Sergio because I think... I think only one
• 24:30
  country like Sergio, like enough for that to
• 24:33
  like really spike PR, but it's a big country.
• 24:35
  Checo actually, I think is, is pretty high on
• 24:38
  the, on the ticket. Yeah. Because I mean, it's
• 24:41
  an American based company and Mexico and America,
• 24:44
  uh, you know, or Mexico and the United States,
• 24:47
  we have a relationship, a lot of. A lot of times
• 24:51
  when Checo would come to the United States to
• 24:53
  race, he would have a lot of fans that would
• 24:55
  show up here. Kev's pulling up Logan Sargent.
• 24:57
  Kev thinks Logan Sargent will be in the American
• 24:59
  team. We do need to bring up... I do actually
• 25:02
  want to point out that Cadillac did actually
• 25:05
  make an announcement today talking about how
• 25:08
  if they are going to have an American driver,
• 25:11
  it will be... on merit alone they are not going
• 25:14
  to pick up an american driver strictly because
• 25:16
  they are american if they are going to take an
• 25:19
  american driver it will be for merit right right
• 25:21
  and that was in an outfit from cadillac today
• 25:23
  i don't think they have i'm cool with that i
• 25:25
  don't think they really have any there is a driver
• 25:27
  that they're looking at from indycar i forget
• 25:29
  his name but uh One of the top? Michael and...
• 25:33
  Hunter Ray. Hunter Ray really likes him. Something
• 25:36
  like that, yeah. He's an IndyCar driver. An American.
• 25:39
  I'm trying to think. There's been the last champion.
• 25:42
  Oh, no. Colton Herta. That's it, yes. Colton
• 25:45
  Herta, yeah. He is kind of a hot topic button
• 25:48
  right now. Interesting. There are... Uh, if,
• 25:51
  if there's any chance of an American driving
• 25:53
  for Cadillac, he's your, yeah, but a different,
• 25:55
  it's still open wheel racing, but it's a different
• 25:58
  motor sport. So it's interesting. Yeah. And we've
• 26:01
  seen the other way around. But going from Indy
• 26:04
  to Formula One is going to be different. I mean,
• 26:06
  you know, you hear it all the time. Formula One
• 26:08
  is like, you know, the pinnacle, the top. Right.
• 26:11
  Obviously, Premiere. You ask you ask someone.
• 26:14
  Kev said NASCAR off screen. You ask someone else.
• 26:16
  They're going to disagree with you, which is
• 26:18
  fine. I think you're right, though. Danny Rick
• 26:21
  would be a good PR choice. I don't think he'd
• 26:23
  be a good choice in the car. Just for like one
• 26:24
  year, two years, just one, two years. And that's
• 26:27
  it. But he's a resident. I mean, he's like, you
• 26:29
  know, he's an Australian American. So true. I
• 26:32
  would love to see it. Danny's my favorite driver.
• 26:34
  I would love to see it. Danny has already stated
• 26:36
  the fact that he is not coming back to Formula
• 26:38
  One. Right, correct. He has. I don't see it happening.
• 26:45
  That was before Cadillac being announced. You
• 26:49
  are correct. So it is possible that his tune
• 26:51
  could change. They need to bring some Red Bull
• 26:53
  money, though. With enough zeros, I mean, Danny
• 26:56
  could be like, you know what? What's one or two
• 26:58
  more seasons? I don't think they're going to
• 26:59
  do it. I don't think he's going to do it. I think
• 27:01
  it's just the drain from everything and the emotional
• 27:05
  drain from everything he went through at Red
• 27:07
  Bull when he left there. I just don't see him
• 27:09
  coming back. I think a really good contender
• 27:11
  for a driver would be Botas' mullet. I think
• 27:15
  Botas is either. Botas is Mullet. Oh, just as
• 27:19
  Mullet. Just as Mullet for Cadillac. Yeah, that
• 27:21
  actually tracks. I hope they put it on the car.
• 27:24
  Yeah, yeah. Yes. Okay, real quick. FIA swearing
• 27:28
  debacle. Okay, this is like old news at this
• 27:31
  point, right? It is. Can we just agree how stupid
• 27:34
  this is? It is extremely dumb. But it also goes
• 27:37
  really deep. Like, into... Like, you can't make
• 27:42
  any... you know religious statements either or
• 27:46
  any what was the other thing uh like like in
• 27:50
  one of the other podcasts i was listening to
• 27:52
  the other day actually not today but um somebody
• 27:55
  was like so if a if a driver happens to be you
• 27:59
  know a christian or religious or whatever and
• 28:02
  they're off to the side praying or doing whatever
• 28:03
  they need to be doing well if the camera catches
• 28:06
  them how do you deal with that you know what
• 28:09
  i mean i'm like seeing to me like that's messed
• 28:11
  up you know so yeah i don't know it would have
• 28:15
  to be turning into a dictatorship unfortunately
• 28:18
  like that's that's a really interesting scenario
• 28:21
  i i would i would hope that it would have to
• 28:24
  be on the production team then and they would
• 28:26
  have to pay a fine Or they would have to get
• 28:28
  scolded, right? Because you can't stop a driver
• 28:30
  from their religious beliefs. Yeah, of course.
• 28:32
  And, I mean, swearing is crazy, too, right? Because,
• 28:36
  especially post -race, you know, if something
• 28:37
  happens, like, don't get me wrong, yes, sure,
• 28:40
  they're role models. Yeah, don't give me that.
• 28:41
  I know, I know. Every athlete, sure, is considered
• 28:45
  a role model, whether they want to be or not.
• 28:47
  They are considered to be one, right? And, like,
• 28:49
  yes, you don't need to be F this, F that, every
• 28:51
  other word. But, like, you're getting out of
• 28:53
  a race, and energy's high, everything's high.
• 28:56
  And you let something slip, but now you're going
• 28:58
  to get suspended a month because that was the
• 29:00
  third time you let it slip. You know what I mean?
• 29:02
  Like, that's dumb. I'm kind of curious on that
• 29:06
  train, though. So obviously the one that really
• 29:10
  kind of pushed all this down is Mohammed bin
• 29:12
  Sulaym, right? And obviously a lot of people
• 29:14
  are not happy with him. And so at the end of
• 29:19
  this season, they're doing another vote for who
• 29:21
  is going to be the next FIA president. And his
• 29:25
  biggest competitor is Susie Wolf. Really? Interesting.
• 29:30
  That is his biggest competitor. And I'm kind
• 29:34
  of curious your guys' opinions, but I know there's
• 29:37
  a lot of... We don't want to get into that right
• 29:40
  now. There have been some people who have come
• 29:42
  up and stated the fact that... There are some
• 29:45
  people who have come up and stated the fact that...
• 29:48
  um it could create a problem because obviously
• 29:50
  suzy is married to toto who is a team principal
• 29:53
  for one of the teams and that could create a
• 29:54
  conflict of interest and a bunch of team principals
• 29:57
  and team owners have shown up and been like we
• 29:59
  love suzy we don't have a problem with it really
• 30:02
  yeah and even even christian horner himself has
• 30:05
  come out and stated the fact of like like saying
• 30:07
  i wouldn't have a problem i think suzy wolf would
• 30:09
  do a great job running the fia which is That
• 30:13
  kind of speaks volumes a little bit. That's interesting.
• 30:17
  I love the idea of Susie Wolfe. I do think a
• 30:20
  conflict of interest is present with her being
• 30:24
  married to Toto and also her running F1 Academy
• 30:26
  currently. She wouldn't be able to do that anymore.
• 30:29
  She would probably step down from her position
• 30:31
  as F1 Academy. Her being married to one of...
• 30:37
  It's tough. That's a tough situation, and I feel
• 30:39
  like because of that, it probably can't happen,
• 30:41
  but I would like to see her in that position.
• 30:44
  Unfortunately... Somebody other than MBS, please.
• 30:46
  That's it. Unfortunately, so much drama was around
• 30:49
  it. I would, too. I just think it's going to
• 30:52
  be followed by so much drama. It's going to be
• 30:54
  so tiring. Her job is going to be overshadowed
• 30:57
  because she's married to one of the team principals.
• 31:00
  I would love her. I think she would be a great
• 31:03
  fit. I just think it might be too... might not
• 31:05
  be worth it to be honest um but that being said
• 31:08
  mbs has got to go mbs has to go right like it's
• 31:11
  yeah bad all right so anyways we got yeah we
• 31:14
  gotta keep rolling we gotta keep rolling uh probably
• 31:16
  gonna have to go through these rule changes quick
• 31:18
  um there's just a few of them here uh no more
• 31:22
  fastest lap point this season i think we touched
• 31:24
  on that at the end of last season um quick just
• 31:28
  very quick thoughts uh what do you think mike
• 31:31
  i hate it i want it I want my fast slot. You
• 31:34
  lose a little strategy you might not have had
• 31:37
  beforehand. It's a bummer. You gain a little
• 31:39
  more strategy, though, I think, if you're not
• 31:41
  worrying about it as much. But it was a nice
• 31:44
  little moment. It was also... It was just extra
• 31:47
  points here and there. I think I mentioned this
• 31:48
  before. This is a bad fast lap is bad to have
• 31:51
  when you have a team with four cars on the grid,
• 31:53
  which we do currently. Yeah. And what happened
• 31:56
  in Singapore can happen at any point where Danny
• 31:58
  outside of the points can steal fastest lap and
• 32:00
  give Max, you know, head up. That's where it's
• 32:03
  kind of bad. See, and for me, that's not it's
• 32:06
  just a non factor. But it happened, you know,
• 32:09
  for sure. Like, be faster. I don't know. You
• 32:11
  know what I mean? Like, you know, you're going
• 32:16
  to set me off. No, he isn't. All right. All right.
• 32:20
  You're going to tell me you're going to tell
• 32:22
  me that another driver from a different team
• 32:24
  pits outside of the point to get new tires to
• 32:27
  get fastest lap. Sure. You want to pit that against
• 32:29
  someone who's been driving their tires hard in
• 32:31
  first place the entire race. Ideal. crazy i was
• 32:37
  gonna lose it all right uh let's see i will uh
• 32:41
  driving driving cooling systems in place for
• 32:44
  temps over 31 degrees celsius that's 87 .8 degrees
• 32:47
  fahrenheit for us here in the u .s sorry go ahead
• 32:52
  what's up oh i was just gonna say you had a point
• 32:54
  we watched dts george last year at singapore
• 32:57
  looked like he was about to die yeah this is
• 33:00
  a pretty good rule change i feel like you know
• 33:02
  uh And especially since every team has to use
• 33:05
  it if they're implementing it. So, you know,
• 33:07
  we don't have to worry about like weight or whatever.
• 33:09
  So let's see. Essentially, drivers can only participate
• 33:13
  in four of the 20 days of the testing of previous
• 33:15
  car during those four days. Drivers cannot exceed
• 33:19
  a thousand kilometers. But again, for us, 621
• 33:22
  miles total. I don't I don't think that's a massive
• 33:26
  deal for me. uh personally but if you guys just
• 33:29
  a rule change yeah you know whatever uh long
• 33:32
  story short let's see i must have summed this
• 33:34
  one up sorry uh now need to run teams now need
• 33:37
  to run a rookie twice per car in a year during
• 33:41
  fp1 uh last season was only once per car uh these
• 33:45
  rookies must have participated in no more than
• 33:48
  two f1 races in their career I don't hate that.
• 33:52
  I like that. Give the rookies more time to practice.
• 33:55
  100%. Less garbage, hopefully, later down the
• 33:58
  road. Again, in a nutshell, I summed this one
• 34:01
  up too, sorry. I don't know why I'm reading my
• 34:03
  own notes. Teams are restricted to their... DRS
• 34:07
  having only two positions, open and closed. I
• 34:10
  think we remember a couple times last year there
• 34:11
  were some wing discrepancies with the DRS. I
• 34:15
  believe we already saw some weird moments in
• 34:21
  testing where cars looked like their wings were
• 34:24
  going back a little bit. I think it was all within
• 34:26
  limits, but we still saw a little bit of some
• 34:29
  flexing here and there. I mean, you know, whatever.
• 34:34
  Let's see. Six, quality stuff. If a qualifying
• 34:38
  can't take place, which is determined by the
• 34:40
  stewards, then grid placement will be based on
• 34:42
  current WDC standings, which I like personally.
• 34:46
  Same goes for sprint quality. If WDC can't be
• 34:49
  used, like a .k .a. race number one, then the
• 34:52
  starting grid would be up to the stewards discretion.
• 34:54
  That I hate. But how else are you going to do
• 34:57
  it? It's like you're limited to one race out
• 34:59
  of 24. It's probably never going to happen. Oh,
• 35:01
  well, yeah, right. It is good because we this
• 35:04
  was in because. brazil we had to they had to
• 35:08
  cancel qualifying and then run it the next day
• 35:10
  yeah um so it's just good they put in the rule
• 35:13
  to make sure that if a situation happened again
• 35:15
  we had something to go off of so going into that
• 35:18
  things have also been clarified if q2 or q3 can't
• 35:22
  be completed those that have started a flying
• 35:24
  lap would be higher than those still yet to leave
• 35:26
  the pit for an attempt uh so let's say a red
• 35:29
  flag comes out in q3 and two drivers could not
• 35:31
  put down any times then they would use the ranking
• 35:34
  of the two drivers lap times and to determine
• 35:36
  their grid position. That makes sense. Yep, sure.
• 35:40
  That seems fair. Let's see. End of season testing
• 35:44
  changes slightly. Team's first car will still
• 35:46
  be used by a young driver, which is classified
• 35:48
  as a driver that has not raced in more than two
• 35:51
  F1 Grand Prixs. A team's second car is now going
• 35:54
  to be used as a, quote, mule for the 2026 tires.
• 35:58
  Yep. uh monaco now a two -stop mandatory race
• 36:02
  that's that's pretty big that's huge um um i
• 36:07
  still don't think it's gonna stop it from being
• 36:09
  a boring race but no i think it'll make it more
• 36:11
  interesting i mean like slightly it's just it'll
• 36:15
  make it more interesting from a strategy standpoint
• 36:16
  because it means that with two stops if teams
• 36:20
  choose their two stops wisely You could lose
• 36:24
  a race because your team didn't pitch you at
• 36:26
  the right time. And so all this means is that
• 36:28
  Charles won't win this upcoming Monaco. Ferrari's
• 36:32
  strategy will bite him again. And I feel bad.
• 36:36
  The curse is back, maybe. No. No. Oh, that sucks.
• 36:42
  That sucks to hear. I'm not even a Ferrari fan.
• 36:44
  Get out of here. No way. Let's say what happens
• 36:47
  last year happened, right? Like, let's say Checo
• 36:50
  or the two hosses run into a single car, destroy
• 36:54
  the track and everyone around them. Six rookies,
• 36:56
  it could happen. Okay, either way, we get a red
• 36:58
  flag, right? We get a red flag. That's one of
• 37:01
  the two mandatory pit stops. They still have
• 37:03
  to make only one. if there's two red flags you
• 37:05
  could event you could you could eliminate pretty
• 37:08
  much granted the entire grid needs to decide
• 37:10
  to eliminate that second you know pit stop because
• 37:13
  if one person decides to get on new tires and
• 37:15
  go long they could maybe get overtaken by newer
• 37:19
  tires it's you know it'll be figured out i think
• 37:21
  that's kind of the default strategy that's what
• 37:22
  they did last year i mean like it was literally
• 37:24
  lap one that we saw the accident happen and everybody
• 37:27
  pit and put on hearts and said we're gonna do
• 37:29
  all of monaco in one stint yeah that race was
• 37:31
  exciting for two minutes yeah for yeah the beginning
• 37:35
  and then yeah it ended all right all right uh
• 37:37
  most of those things uh all those rule changes
• 37:40
  coming from formula1 .com fyi uh bahrain testing
• 37:44
  uh i don't for me i didn't see anything that
• 37:49
  really mattered that much um i did have some
• 37:52
  other than like the bus driving onto the track
• 37:55
  was insane yeah causing one of the red flags.
• 37:59
  There was four red flags, and none of them were
• 38:01
  for actual car reasons. At one point, the lights
• 38:08
  just turned off. The whole track went dark. A
• 38:12
  city bus is just driving on the track during
• 38:19
  a live F1 track session, which is ridiculous.
• 38:23
  I don't think it could keep up. Anyway. What
• 38:27
  are your guys' notes on testing? We got to be
• 38:29
  quick. We got to get to them. The things that
• 38:33
  I wanted to bring up were just the fact that
• 38:34
  looking at some of the times and stuff like that,
• 38:36
  I know a lot of people were getting hung up on
• 38:38
  how fast cars were going. They were like, Williams
• 38:42
  is up at the top. This is going to be our season.
• 38:45
  I think people need to understand that a lot
• 38:48
  of teams took very rational looks at what they
• 38:51
  wanted to do. There were only two teams that
• 38:53
  brought soft compound tires. Yeah, Aston showed
• 38:56
  up with three intermediate. Those were Ferrari.
• 38:58
  Hey, it rained. And they used that round in Bahrain.
• 39:01
  I know, I know. But three to Bahrain is insane.
• 39:05
  Ferrari and Williams both brought soft compound
• 39:07
  tires, and that's why they seemed so fast in
• 39:09
  testing. Notably teams that looked really good
• 39:13
  that were taking long fuel loads and were focusing
• 39:18
  more on numbers and statistics and things like
• 39:21
  that were the teams that people are expecting
• 39:23
  to do good, like McLaren and Haas. So I'm just
• 39:29
  saying. Drinking the Kool -Aid. I'm just saying.
• 39:31
  But Haas was on that same thing as your team.
• 39:33
  Are you about to tell me that Haas is comparable
• 39:35
  to McLaren this year? They're going to win. You're
• 39:39
  just delusional. Simply delusional. Yeah. I don't
• 39:46
  think I had too much more from... Because you
• 39:50
  hit most of the other stuff. Bus. Rain and Bahrain.
• 39:56
  Bus. Lights. It's pretty much craziness. With
• 40:01
  that, Kev, let's head right into our news. And
• 40:14
  with our quote -unquote news, just a couple things.
• 40:18
  It's the 75th year anniversary for F1. First
• 40:22
  look at the liveries that we saw. Did you guys
• 40:27
  watch it? I watched it live. I don't know if
• 40:29
  you guys watched it. I did not watch it live.
• 40:30
  I watched some of it back. I watched it all back,
• 40:33
  but yeah. Probably won't happen again. Max was
• 40:36
  pretty miffed that he got booed live when they
• 40:40
  called out his name. It was pretty funny. And
• 40:43
  then the best moment, though, was FIA came on
• 40:46
  screen once in the whole room booed again. Oh,
• 40:48
  man, it was amazing. It was great. I loved it.
• 40:50
  Oh, man. It was great. I'm going to have to watch
• 40:51
  that. Let's see. Okay, so I just put this in
• 40:54
  here because I want to know if you guys think
• 40:56
  it's going to be good. I don't know if you've
• 40:57
  seen the shorts of fans at races last year during
• 41:00
  the filming of this movie. Which just cracked
• 41:02
  me up, by the way. But Brad Pitt's F1 movie dropping
• 41:06
  in June called literally F1, I'm pretty sure.
• 41:09
  You want to go see it? Is that going to be? I
• 41:10
  mean, I'm probably going to see it. I mean, F1
• 41:13
  movies don't come out all the time. Yeah, right.
• 41:15
  I don't like the story of Brad Pitt, the old
• 41:19
  grizzled driver, getting back in this. What do
• 41:22
  you mean? It's just a story about Fernando Alonso.
• 41:25
  Yeah, but I'd watch that. I don't want to watch
• 41:28
  Brad Pitt. drive an f1 car i don't know there's
• 41:31
  just me personally but whatever it's cool that
• 41:33
  we're getting an f1 movie though i think i think
• 41:35
  i don't think it's on real tracks like yeah oh
• 41:37
  yeah no yeah i think it's really cool that they're
• 41:39
  able to get footage during rate like like you
• 41:42
  know not during races but on track just like
• 41:44
  yeah um i don't think it's going to be good but
• 41:47
  i think i'll probably enjoy it i think i'll probably
• 41:50
  enjoy it too just turn your brain off watch cars
• 41:53
  drive in a circle it'll be i'm hoping i don't
• 41:56
  overanalyze too much and i'm like that's not
• 41:58
  real you absolutely will with i probably will
• 42:01
  with lewis as a producer i'm hoping that's fairly
• 42:04
  minimum yeah so true good point okay Let's see.
• 42:09
  And then I just put in here shameless DTS plug.
• 42:12
  Go watch Drive to Survive if you have not yet.
• 42:14
  It was really good. It was a really good season.
• 42:18
  If you want to see every single episode Christian
• 42:20
  Horner just say something mean, that's a good
• 42:24
  place to watch it happen. It starts off hot,
• 42:27
  too, with Christian Horner. Go watch that. I
• 42:30
  don't think I knew who Flavio was until I watched
• 42:33
  DTS. He's one of my new favorite characters.
• 42:38
  I love him. I was so excited when I heard he
• 42:40
  was coming back. I was like, oh my gosh. He's
• 42:43
  like the evil genius. He's great. With that,
• 42:47
  Kev. I do have one thing. This is breaking news
• 42:50
  today. Oscar re -signs multi -year deal with
• 42:54
  McLaren. That happened earlier today, a couple
• 42:57
  hours ago. The crowd goes mild. What? What? What?
• 43:03
  The crowd goes mild. What do you mean the crowd
• 43:05
  goes mild? Because we know what's going to happen.
• 43:08
  McLaren obviously wants to keep a very strong
• 43:11
  driver and he wants to stay with a car that's
• 43:13
  possibly going to win. Yeah, no, totally. But
• 43:15
  it was not unexpected. This is like the same
• 43:17
  equivalent of news as Lance re -signs to Aston.
• 43:21
  Yeah, no duh. Well, not necessarily because Oscar
• 43:25
  wants to win himself, right? Oh, God, it's going
• 43:29
  to get into my predictions. Do we just continue
• 43:32
  on? Let's just continue on. Kev, let's head into
• 43:34
  Australia. GP starting off with up to speed.
• 43:48
  Right. It is. time for uh our fated recap of
• 43:53
  the race coming up this upcoming weekend uh this
• 43:57
  year's australian race is called formula one
• 43:59
  louis vuitton australian grand prix 2025 as always
• 44:03
  that's new this year yep that's new this year
• 44:06
  last year was heineken i can't remember no rolex
• 44:10
  no that doesn't make sense we're just throwing
• 44:11
  everything out there because every other race
• 44:13
  is heineken and rolex and it's united airways
• 44:17
  or whatever As always, a quick fun fact. It's
• 44:20
  held in Melbourne, Victoria, and is one of the
• 44:22
  oldest motorsport competitions in Australia.
• 44:25
  Another fun fact, an Australian driver has never
• 44:28
  finished on the podium here since it joined the
• 44:30
  World Championship in 1985. We have two Australians
• 44:33
  on the track, one of them in a very fast car.
• 44:36
  We could see that broken this week. Who actually
• 44:38
  could be a winner this week. He could. He could.
• 44:41
  So heading into last year's race, it was, I would
• 44:45
  say, Probably one of the most exciting races,
• 44:48
  at least in a while, because of some of the stuff
• 44:51
  that happened very early on. We'll get into.
• 44:53
  The start was Max to Carlos to Lando to Charles.
• 44:57
  Lights out and the top four remain in their respective
• 44:59
  positions. Max getting a good start and Carlos
• 45:01
  keeping incredibly close behind in turn one.
• 45:04
  On the long DRS straight after turn eight on
• 45:06
  lap two, Carlos utilizes his DRS, taking the
• 45:09
  lead right before the entry of turn nine, slotting
• 45:11
  it ahead of Verstappen. And as a reminder, if
• 45:14
  Max won this race, race it would be his 10th
• 45:16
  consecutive race win uh two laps later carlos
• 45:20
  still leading max start to smoke before turn
• 45:22
  six bellowing through the drs zone as his brakes
• 45:25
  start to disintegrate yep before the pit lane
• 45:28
  he begins to slow allowing cars to overtake him
• 45:31
  as he heads for the garage his right rear brake
• 45:33
  exploding on pit entry for the first time in
• 45:36
  10 races we have a fight for the lead without
• 45:38
  a red bull in the mix Lap 17, another WDC experiences
• 45:42
  some car troubles as Lewis pushes through an
• 45:44
  engine failure, slowing himself down while already
• 45:47
  having less than a superior race in 16th. He's
• 45:50
  the second in retirement of the day. He brings
• 45:52
  out the first virtual safety car. Lap 21, the
• 45:55
  last Red Bull and Mercedes fight for sixth place.
• 45:58
  Perez ultimately taking the place from George.
• 46:00
  He makes the move on Alonso for fifth a few laps
• 46:02
  later. Lap 29, Piastri is asked to swap places
• 46:05
  with Norris, giving him the final podium position
• 46:07
  and putting himself out of the running for the
• 46:08
  first Australian. podium it is a battle between
• 46:11
  Ferrari versus McLaren signs holding superiority
• 46:14
  throughout the entire race keeping a gap of around
• 46:16
  10 seconds to Norris by lap 37 further down the
• 46:20
  grid we get to see some exciting fights for the
• 46:22
  final point positions KMAG swerving behind Albon
• 46:24
  trying to find an overtaking opportunity in lap
• 46:27
  43 this fight continues on 44 with a lunge to
• 46:30
  the inside on turn 11 almost colliding into the
• 46:32
  side of Albon only to meet once more on that
• 46:34
  45 finally making the move stick and gaining
• 46:37
  11th place with his teammate Hulkenberg in 10th.
• 46:40
  On the final lap of the race, we watch George
• 46:43
  Russell trail Fernando up to turn six. Right
• 46:47
  before the corner, we see George rocking ahead,
• 46:49
  making up an unbelievably amount of room to the
• 46:53
  back of the Aston Martin, unexpectedly for us
• 46:55
  viewers, and unfortunately for Russell as well.
• 46:57
  He loses control of his Mercedes as he approaches
• 47:00
  the back of Alonso, finds himself into the gravel,
• 47:02
  into the wall, and then back in the middle of
• 47:04
  the track at a 45 degree angle. Both of his wheels
• 47:07
  snapped and relocated underneath him. All the
• 47:10
  while, Carlos crosses the finish line four seconds
• 47:13
  ahead of his teammate for first place, Lando
• 47:15
  trailing them a few more seconds behind. The
• 47:17
  final signs to Leclerc, to Norris, to Piastri,
• 47:21
  to Perez. George's crash did lead to an investigation
• 47:24
  against Alonzo, who eventually got a 20 -second
• 47:26
  drive -through penalty after the race. Last year,
• 47:30
  that penalty was a huge talking point after the
• 47:33
  race because it was... Alonzo didn't touch him
• 47:37
  he didn't touch Alonzo but something happened
• 47:40
  there where he just he caught up to Alonzo way
• 47:42
  too quickly was not expecting it and then lost
• 47:45
  control and eventually Alonzo was was penalized
• 47:48
  for it it was it was a lot I remember I remember
• 47:52
  uh media after not media but social media why
• 47:56
  the heck he did it yeah social media after was
• 47:58
  just going after george because it was obviously
• 48:01
  like he he can't drive that's why he crashed
• 48:03
  and i'm like i don't know man he took that way
• 48:06
  differently than beforehand yeah that's true
• 48:09
  i don't know it wasn't was it was 20 second drive
• 48:11
  -thru harsh yes way too harsh was a penalty probably
• 48:15
  needed maybe i don't know my favorite is the
• 48:18
  line that he tried to when when uh It was like
• 48:22
  somebody came up and asked him, like, oh, Alonzo,
• 48:25
  why do you think you got that penalty? And he
• 48:27
  looked him straight in the eyes and went, because
• 48:29
  I'm Spanish. And then just kept on. Oh, my gosh.
• 48:34
  I love Alonzo, dude. He's so funny. All right,
• 48:38
  all right, all right. So before we do our Australia
• 48:41
  picks. We came up with new rules for our picks
• 48:44
  this year. So last year, you know, we picked
• 48:48
  the podium, right? Whatever, in whatever order.
• 48:50
  If they're on the podium, we get a point for
• 48:52
  each driver on the podium. So a maximum of three
• 48:54
  points. Then we'd have random bonus points here
• 48:56
  and there. Whatever. This year, we're still going
• 48:59
  to do the one point per driver. But we decided
• 49:03
  that if you pick... like like if my podium was
• 49:06
  uh wow i almost said max sergio that's funny
• 49:09
  uh max lando charles or whatever and it finished
• 49:12
  max lando charles and my max points is six right
• 49:15
  yes you so you get an extra point if you place
• 49:17
  them in the correct podium position as well as
• 49:20
  already getting a point for them just being on
• 49:21
  your podium okay okay okay yep so you got it
• 49:24
  all right fair enough well keep up with that
• 49:26
  that is our that is our new rule uh mike you're
• 49:29
  you're the you're the Yeah, you're the beauty
• 49:32
  on the pod, I guess. Okay. It's in the beard.
• 49:35
  What do we got in Australia this week? So, in
• 49:38
  order, though. First, second, third. Or you can
• 49:40
  go three, two, one. I don't care. Can I guess
• 49:41
  what your podium's going to be? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 49:42
  It's going to be Bierman. It's going to be Esteban.
• 49:45
  And then they're not going to have a third one
• 49:47
  because everyone else is going to crash, right?
• 49:48
  No, it's going to be Alonzo. What are you talking
• 49:50
  about? Oh, God. Come on. No, okay. So, my podium
• 49:54
  is hilariously boring. I think Lando's going
• 49:58
  to win. I think in second place is going to be,
• 50:02
  uh, I think in second place is going to be Oscar.
• 50:05
  And I think in third place is going to be Charles
• 50:07
  Leclerc, man. Honestly, I was expecting something
• 50:11
  crazier. It kind of gives me an insight into
• 50:13
  what your like whole year predictions are going
• 50:15
  to be a little bit. And there might just be similar
• 50:17
  to mine. It's honestly like I. Would love to
• 50:24
  get crazy and be like, oh, there's going to be
• 50:26
  some like Lewis Hamilton is just going to pop
• 50:28
  off and is going to win this. No, he won't. So
• 50:31
  I'm sorry. I wasn't putting Lewis on my podium.
• 50:39
  I think you should go next because I lost horribly
• 50:41
  last year. Oh, wait, did we tie last year? I
• 50:44
  think we did. I think you and I tied and then
• 50:46
  Tyler and Cole tied. Feels good to lose something
• 50:48
  with someone else. Ditto. I think, um, let's
• 50:53
  see. Oh my God. Um, Ooh. Hmm. I think, uh, God.
• 51:09
  Okay. Yeah. I, uh, I'm going to go Oscar Lando.
• 51:16
  Nah, nah. Oscar Charles. This is crazy right
• 51:20
  here. Oscar Charles George. Okay. I don't hate
• 51:24
  that. He's changing it up. I don't hate it. I
• 51:26
  think something happens to Lando at his home
• 51:29
  track. You know what? It's not his home track.
• 51:31
  It's not his home track. Isn't he Australian?
• 51:32
  He's British. Oh, he's British. Never mind. I'm
• 51:34
  sorry, but still. No British bias here, folks.
• 51:36
  No British bias here. We love you. Something
• 51:38
  weird is going to happen to Lando this race.
• 51:41
  Not super negative, but something goofy is going
• 51:43
  to be. That's some gut instinct. Oscar wins is
• 51:47
  nuts. I love it. It is nuts. I'm also Oscar first.
• 51:52
  Just for the dream, I want it to happen. I'd
• 51:55
  love Oscar to win it. Oscar first. Lando second.
• 52:02
  And I actually don't know if I agree with my
• 52:05
  second and third, but I still like them for the
• 52:07
  podium. So Oscar, Lando, and then Max. Max, I
• 52:11
  thought about Max, too. We're pretty much almost
• 52:15
  there. Do we want to start talking about how
• 52:17
  we think the teams are going to do and look at
• 52:19
  our constructors and stuff? Yeah, but we definitely
• 52:22
  got to make it quick, which sucks because this
• 52:24
  is the hardest part. I think we got this. I think
• 52:28
  there's only going to be a little bit of bickering
• 52:29
  going back and forth, so that's okay. Well, I
• 52:31
  think constructors is where it gets weird. Do
• 52:34
  you want to do WDC first? Let's do WDC first.
• 52:37
  All right, WDC. Or should we do constructors
• 52:39
  first? Let's do WDC first. Okay. And then let's
• 52:45
  go. Give us your fifth driver. My fifth driver
• 52:48
  is going to be George Russell. George Russell.
• 52:51
  Oh, that's crazy. So is mine. You son of a B.
• 52:54
  That's crazy. uh okay well i guess i already
• 52:57
  said mine uh mike who's getting fifth in the
• 53:00
  wdc this max first happened max whoa whoa you're
• 53:05
  insane but i love it i love that prediction so
• 53:09
  much fifth for max wow all right so like can
• 53:12
  we just talk about it for a second do you think
• 53:14
  you don't think red bull's gonna going to make
• 53:16
  it this year, eh? I don't think Red Bull's going
• 53:18
  to make it this year. I definitely don't think
• 53:19
  Red Bull's... I think Red Bull's got a car, and
• 53:21
  I think that they're going to do some stuff this
• 53:23
  year, and we'll talk about it when we get it.
• 53:25
  But we're talking WDC. I'm just so excited. I
• 53:28
  apologize. We're talking WDC. I think Max is
• 53:32
  going to drive the hell out of that car. Oh,
• 53:35
  man. And I could see him swapping with fourth
• 53:39
  for whatever it's worth. i don't i don't see
• 53:42
  him in the top three okay i don't see a world
• 53:43
  where he's in the top three okay um okay just
• 53:45
  just to be clear points for this is just you
• 53:48
  make it or you don't yeah right no that's cool
• 53:51
  we're not doing like if you're close or anything
• 53:53
  like that it's just you make it or you don't
• 53:54
  yep cool do we want to do the same thing with
• 53:56
  how we're doing each weekend where it's like
• 53:58
  this is our top five and if you hit him in the
• 54:01
  correct position then you get two points instead.
• 54:04
  What are we talking about? Points for WDC standings.
• 54:07
  Do we want to just do, you either get a point
• 54:09
  or you don't? Or do we want to do, this is our
• 54:11
  top five. If they make it in the top five, we
• 54:13
  get a point. At the end of the season? Yeah.
• 54:15
  Yeah, I think just the end of the season. Well,
• 54:17
  yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, do we want
• 54:19
  to just do one point each or two points if you
• 54:22
  get them in the correct spot too? Like we're
• 54:23
  doing each weekend. Oh, I got you. That's my
• 54:25
  question. Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, one point
• 54:28
  if they're in the top five, but two points if
• 54:30
  they're in the correct spot. So we could be guaranteed
• 54:31
  points no matter what. Okay, I'm down for that.
• 54:33
  Yeah, that's fine by me. So WDC and then Constructors,
• 54:35
  I think we should just keep it on point. One
• 54:38
  for one. One for one. Yep. Okay. So Mike, you
• 54:41
  should start at four then. So then I'm starting
• 54:43
  at four. I am putting Lewis Hamilton at fourth.
• 54:46
  Oh, my gosh. What is this dude on? That's interesting.
• 54:48
  I think Ferrari's got a car in front of them.
• 54:50
  That's interesting. Fair enough. That means you
• 54:51
  think Charles is probably going to be up there,
• 54:52
  too, I think. Do I? You don't like Charles, though.
• 54:57
  Wow. How angry would you be when I tell you Charles
• 55:00
  is going to be an 18? Charles is my fourth. Charles
• 55:02
  is your fourth? Yep. Charles is my fourth. Oh,
• 55:06
  my God. Okay, and my fourth is Oscar. How dare
• 55:11
  you? Is that low? Maybe not unrealistic if I'm
• 55:16
  going to be real with you. I thought about putting
• 55:18
  Oscar in the same position, but I didn't. We
• 55:21
  were all different. Lewis, Charles, and Oscar
• 55:23
  in four. I'm up for three. That's where Max is
• 55:27
  going for me. In the WDC. I'm thinking about
• 55:31
  making a late change. Don't do it. But you got
• 55:34
  to go on the fly, dog. I'm going to make a late
• 55:36
  change. Oh, here it is. No, he's calling an audible.
• 55:38
  I go last. I go last. He goes last. I'm going
• 55:41
  next. He goes last. Number three. I've got Oscar
• 55:44
  Piastri. Oscar's three. Okay. I think that's
• 55:46
  a safe spot for Oscar. I'm going to do something
• 55:48
  crazy. You guys are going to hate me for it.
• 55:51
  I'm putting Max in third. I mean, that's what
• 55:53
  I did. I hear you. I'm switching my second. He
• 55:55
  was my second, but I'm putting someone else in
• 55:57
  second. You guys know who they're going to be.
• 56:00
  Okay. Oscars in second. And then Lando's winning
• 56:03
  the WDT for you. So it's going to be Oscar and
• 56:05
  Lando for the rest of mine. Unbelievable. Okay.
• 56:08
  That's crazy. Yeah, you know what? I feel better
• 56:10
  about that because I think to a degree, to a
• 56:12
  degree, I think you're right. I don't think the
• 56:14
  Red Bull is going to be as strong as it was last
• 56:15
  year. I still think Max is going to bring it.
• 56:18
  Don't get me wrong, but I don't think the car
• 56:21
  is going to be as good as a McLaren. I don't
• 56:22
  think the car is going to be there. I just think
• 56:24
  that Max is a generational talent. Yep. we have
• 56:28
  to say our number our champion at the same time
• 56:30
  okay so you guys are doing oh we're just gonna
• 56:33
  we're just gonna say our champion yeah at the
• 56:35
  same time let's there's no way you're saying
• 56:37
  something different all right can i count it
• 56:40
  down yeah you got three two one Yes, sir. I think
• 56:48
  Charles. Lando's finishing second to Charles.
• 56:53
  What's your second? I think Charles is in second.
• 56:57
  I think Charles. I think this is going to be
• 57:00
  a really, really tight fight between Charles
• 57:02
  and Lando this year. I think both cars are going
• 57:05
  to be really, really fast. And I think both of
• 57:09
  them are equivalent skill. I just think that...
• 57:15
  The McLaren's going to be a tough car to beat.
• 57:17
  The McLaren's going to be tough. Out of the gate,
• 57:19
  for sure. So you and I, same top five. Not in
• 57:23
  the same order, but same top five. You're the
• 57:25
  only one that had someone else other than us.
• 57:27
  You did not have... Who do you not have in yours?
• 57:34
  You don't have George. You have Lewis. You do
• 57:37
  not have George. Lewis is my six. Yeah, Lewis
• 57:41
  is my six as well. Now, can I just really quickly?
• 57:44
  Yes, absolutely. Just run through the others
• 57:46
  really quickly. Run through it. Because you're
• 57:48
  going to blow your mind. Make sure to say their
• 57:49
  number. Six. So for six, I've got Russell. For
• 57:53
  seven, I've got Lawson. For eight, I've got Antonelli.
• 57:56
  No. Yep. For nine, I have Esteban Ocon. You're
• 58:01
  high. This dude is high. Hold on. Hold on. Chat,
• 58:05
  clip that. For ten, I have Peter Gasly. For 11,
• 58:10
  I have Fernando Alonso. For 12, I have Oliver
• 58:13
  Bierman. For 13, I have Carlos Sainz. 14, I have
• 58:17
  Lance Stroll. 15, I have Albon. 16, I have Tsunoda.
• 58:22
  17, I have Franco Calapinto. 18, I have Isaac
• 58:28
  Kajar. 19, I have Jack Dewitt. 20, I have Nico
• 58:33
  Hulkenberg. And 21, I have Gabriel Bortoletto.
• 58:36
  How are you going to put Jack so low, but Pierre
• 58:38
  so high? Because that's that big of a difference.
• 58:44
  He's going to do five races and get replaced
• 58:46
  by Franco. Wow. That's my crazy prediction. That
• 58:50
  is the word on the street, though. Your prediction
• 58:52
  is so base. It's crazy, bro. I think Jack gets
• 58:55
  until at least summer, and then he gets pulled.
• 58:57
  Yeah, I think he's going to get pulled into summer
• 58:59
  break. You put Ocon in. In top ten. In ten. You
• 59:02
  put Ocon above Alonzo. I want you to remember
• 59:04
  that. And I'm going to remember that too. So
• 59:06
  this is me entirely saying this is a bit of a
• 59:09
  spoiler for my constructors. I thoroughly think
• 59:13
  that Aston Martin is going to be terrible this
• 59:16
  year. You're going to hate my constructors. How
• 59:18
  do we want to do constructors? Do you just want
• 59:19
  to list them all off? I think we should start
• 59:20
  from the bottom like we did. Who's your ten then?
• 59:25
  Who's your ten, Haas? Kicksauber. Oh, come on.
• 59:27
  Well, that's probably, uh, that's my, that's
• 59:29
  my 10 to my 10 as well. Kicks out. I mean, we
• 59:32
  don't, we don't even need to talk about kicks
• 59:33
  out here, but like, let's be real there. They're
• 59:35
  just playing the waiting game till they're already.
• 59:37
  All right. So let me change. What's uh, what's
• 59:39
  your nine? My nine, uh, V carb. Oh, my God, dude.
• 59:44
  I think V -Carb. I think, okay, so in my logic,
• 59:48
  Red Bull. I'm making a late change again. Red
• 59:50
  Bull is struggling this year. And we all agree
• 59:51
  that we think Red Bull is going to struggle this
• 59:53
  year. So if Red Bull is struggling, how is their
• 59:56
  sister team going to be good? Right? You're right.
• 1:00:00
  If the main team is doing poorly, how is the
• 1:00:02
  sister team going to do well? No, the sister
• 1:00:04
  team is going to struggle, too. It's a valid
• 1:00:05
  argument. It's a valid argument. And V -Carb
• 1:00:07
  was struggling at the end of last season, too.
• 1:00:09
  We saw it. They were probably the slowest car
• 1:00:11
  on the grid in Abu Dhabi. So I'm just saying.
• 1:00:16
  They were losing to kick saubers. I'm just saying.
• 1:00:22
  So, call me crazy. Call me crazy. I think I'm
• 1:00:26
  cooking here. You are crazy. You know what's
• 1:00:31
  funny about you saying that? You know what's
• 1:00:33
  funny about you saying that? It's because my
• 1:00:35
  nine is also Haas. I'm sorry, man. Listen, it's
• 1:00:41
  not the car. It's the drivers, okay? Oh, you
• 1:00:44
  know what? Actually, fair. Honestly, I'll accept
• 1:00:47
  that answer. If you did not have Ocon and you
• 1:00:50
  didn't have a rookie, I'd put them seventh or
• 1:00:53
  sixth, honestly. I'm sorry, Kevin. I'm going
• 1:00:55
  to need five minutes to talk about this when
• 1:00:56
  we get through this. I mean, yeah. We're going
• 1:00:58
  to take our time. Yeah, we're running a little
• 1:01:00
  late. Let's get eight then. Should I start an
• 1:01:03
  eight? You start an eight. A V -carb. This was
• 1:01:05
  a late change. I just changed this. That's also
• 1:01:07
  my eight is also a V -carb. I think V -carb is
• 1:01:10
  going to be low. My eight is Williams. Okay.
• 1:01:13
  I think you're wrong, but that's fine. I think
• 1:01:14
  they've got an amazing lineup, but I don't think
• 1:01:17
  they're going to bring the car. All right. Let's
• 1:01:20
  see. I'll go. My seven is actually Williams.
• 1:01:24
  Okay. Yeah. My seven is Alpine. They were lower.
• 1:01:29
  Wait, no, they weren't. No, they were at seven.
• 1:01:31
  I think that's where they were. No, they were
• 1:01:33
  lower for me. I had them above V -Carb initially,
• 1:01:35
  but I think you're right. If Red Bull isn't good,
• 1:01:38
  V -Carb can't be good either. I'm with you. I
• 1:01:41
  think that's too low for Alpine. I'm putting
• 1:01:43
  Aston Martin at seven. That's so crazy. I think
• 1:01:47
  they're going to have a terrible car. And I think
• 1:01:49
  Alonso is going to carry that team every single
• 1:01:53
  one of their points. Lance is going to struggle
• 1:01:56
  so much. I definitely think the Adrian Newey
• 1:01:59
  effect is not going to kick in this year, but
• 1:02:00
  they've got to be better than that. They have
• 1:02:02
  to be. I disagree. I'll just go because Aston's
• 1:02:07
  my six. I don't think they're going to be. You
• 1:02:11
  have Williams above Aston. No. Williams is my
• 1:02:14
  seven. Williams is a seven. You have Alpena above
• 1:02:18
  Aston. Of course he does. Come on. There's bias
• 1:02:21
  at this table. Gasly finished hot last year,
• 1:02:26
  and he was absolutely battling and beating Alonzo.
• 1:02:29
  I'd like to remind you that you have Jack Doohan
• 1:02:31
  in your other driver. Correct. And Aston has
• 1:02:33
  Lance Stroll as their other driver. I'm not really
• 1:02:35
  worried about it. Yeah, okay. You know what I
• 1:02:38
  mean? Good point. Once you start getting down
• 1:02:41
  to the best of the rest, that's exactly what
• 1:02:43
  it comes down to. It's the second driver, and
• 1:02:45
  that's where Williams, for me, could absolutely
• 1:02:47
  jump up to five. We don't know anything about
• 1:02:50
  Jack. At least Stroll is consistent. Six is Williams.
• 1:02:57
  I think they're going to be best of the other
• 1:03:00
  rest. So you have Aston at five. I do have Aston
• 1:03:03
  at five, yes. I've got Alpine at six. Okay. And
• 1:03:09
  I think that's a safe place for them. I genuinely
• 1:03:12
  think that's safe. If Haas is higher than five
• 1:03:15
  for you, that's absolutely asinine. So you ready
• 1:03:19
  for my number five? No, hold on. Are we at five?
• 1:03:23
  Yeah, because yours is Aston. So you ready for
• 1:03:26
  my number five? It's Haas. I think Haas is at
• 1:03:28
  number five. Wow. Rather insane. And I'm really
• 1:03:31
  excited to talk about it. With a rookie driver.
• 1:03:33
  You just throw your point away like that. That's
• 1:03:35
  crazy. Okay. Yeah, we'll circle back to that
• 1:03:37
  before we end. What's your five? My five is Alpine.
• 1:03:40
  Oh, yeah. That makes sense. That's fair. I think,
• 1:03:42
  honestly. Who's your five again? No. Aston Martin.
• 1:03:46
  Aston. Yeah. I mean, Willie. I feel like six.
• 1:03:48
  Last year, yes. Six through. No. Six through
• 1:03:51
  eight, I think, is pretty interchangeable. Williams,
• 1:03:53
  Alpine, V -Carb. I could see any of them taking
• 1:03:55
  those spots. Yeah. Honestly, five through eight
• 1:03:58
  for me is going to be... I mean, you saw the
• 1:04:01
  point total this last year where it was like
• 1:04:05
  the top teams, Aston Martin in a league of their
• 1:04:07
  own in fifth, and then the rest of the teams.
• 1:04:09
  Aston Martin was only 30 points ahead. Yeah,
• 1:04:12
  but it took a while for the other teams to catch
• 1:04:13
  up to him. Well, yeah, that's because they blew
• 1:04:16
  away at the beginning of the season. It could
• 1:04:19
  happen again. And then completely stopped scoring
• 1:04:20
  points in the back half. Yeah, they consistently
• 1:04:22
  do that. Okay, you know what? That is a good
• 1:04:25
  point. They do tend to be really strong. Okay,
• 1:04:27
  what do we have? Four? Four, yeah. Oh, you're
• 1:04:30
  thinking of changing? I'll go then. Fourth, and
• 1:04:33
  this is purely because they have a rookie on
• 1:04:35
  their team. It is Mercedes. Sure. That's what
• 1:04:40
  I have right now. I got to leave it. Okay, what
• 1:04:45
  do you think? My fourth and third were really
• 1:04:48
  hard. This is probably the one that I spent the
• 1:04:50
  most time. um i put red bull at fourth honestly
• 1:04:55
  i mean they're my third either way i think it
• 1:04:58
  could flip either way but i i think liam isn't
• 1:05:01
  gonna bring enough and the car is gonna be bad
• 1:05:03
  uh that's fair i think third is red bull for
• 1:05:06
  me yep ditto okay well then we know i mean so
• 1:05:10
  yours gotta be mercedes for third is mercedes
• 1:05:12
  yeah that makes sense yep so two more teams we
• 1:05:17
  all have the top two teams we all have the same
• 1:05:19
  top two teams just depends on what order you
• 1:05:20
  already know what i'm doing so you can just put
• 1:05:22
  it down mclaren's winning it again and ferrari
• 1:05:24
  in second are you different i think he's different
• 1:05:28
  i don't think you're different though i think
• 1:05:30
  you're the same as me i'm not different i think
• 1:05:33
  mclaren still wins the constructors i think it's
• 1:05:36
  just like this early in the season it's just
• 1:05:38
  too hard to tell and they're starting to become
• 1:05:41
  dominant i think like they're just so fast so
• 1:05:43
  i just I think the big factor that separates
• 1:05:48
  the two of them, and I never thought that I would
• 1:05:50
  say this, it's Lewis Hamilton. Lewis Hamilton
• 1:05:53
  is not a Ferrari driver. He is, but he isn't.
• 1:05:56
  He's not yet. He hasn't spent enough time in
• 1:05:59
  the car yet, and so because of that, he's not
• 1:06:02
  acclimated enough to this new car. Meanwhile,
• 1:06:04
  Oscar and Lando are at home in that car. They
• 1:06:08
  are as comfortable as they can be, and that is
• 1:06:10
  an advantage that Ferrari can't beat. I 100 %
• 1:06:14
  agree. McLaren was incredibly... I knew McLaren
• 1:06:18
  was going to be one because of that reason. McLaren
• 1:06:21
  have two drivers that have driven their car for
• 1:06:23
  a while now. Ferrari has a new driver that needs
• 1:06:26
  to learn a new car, by the way. I still think
• 1:06:28
  they're going to be fast, and I think Lewis will
• 1:06:30
  get up to speed and make it. I just don't think
• 1:06:32
  it's going to be impressive. I put him in my
• 1:06:33
  top five. I have faith in the guy, but not that
• 1:06:36
  much faith. I agree. I think Ferrari is going
• 1:06:40
  to be fast. It is crazy to put Lewis into a brand
• 1:06:42
  new car. Charles is going to be light years ahead
• 1:06:44
  of him in that sense, 100%. But there's a reason
• 1:06:48
  why I picked Charles over either McLaren driver
• 1:06:51
  to win WDC, and it's because... I think it's
• 1:06:55
  like McLaren again. Yeah, going to win constructors.
• 1:06:57
  But I think as far as WDC goes, they're going
• 1:07:01
  to keep exchanging. you know themselves and then
• 1:07:03
  charles is going to get everything else i think
• 1:07:05
  so by the end of the season and i think low -key
• 1:07:08
  i think low -key i think george gets a win this
• 1:07:10
  year uh it's going to be early but i think george
• 1:07:14
  sneaks a win out this year uh max is going to
• 1:07:16
  do max things you know what i mean he's going
• 1:07:18
  to make it difficult whether the car is good
• 1:07:20
  or not he's yep he's still for me the best driver
• 1:07:23
  on the grid right um but yeah i just uh I think
• 1:07:28
  there's going to be too much battling. I think
• 1:07:30
  everything's going to be manby -pamby land early
• 1:07:33
  season for the papayas. But I think midseason,
• 1:07:38
  late season, when things are starting to get
• 1:07:39
  a little more dicey, I don't trust that Lando
• 1:07:43
  and Oscar are going to play nice together by
• 1:07:45
  the end of the season. And that's why I'm uneasy
• 1:07:48
  about Oscar signing that multi -year deal with
• 1:07:50
  McLaren. Personally, I just, I don't. It's. I
• 1:07:58
  see what you mean. At some point, Oscar's going
• 1:07:59
  to be like, I want my shot. I mean, McLaren has
• 1:08:03
  said before they're not a 1 -2 driver team. Both
• 1:08:06
  their drivers are their apex drivers, right?
• 1:08:10
  And I think, yeah, that's going to unfortunately
• 1:08:12
  cause a couple issues. At some point. It could
• 1:08:14
  be next year. It could be three years. We don't
• 1:08:16
  know. I think Oscar could fight for the championship
• 1:08:19
  this year. I'm going to say that right now. Oscar's
• 1:08:20
  more aggressive than Lando. Yeah. I think Oscar
• 1:08:23
  could literally win this thing if he wanted to.
• 1:08:25
  He's got to figure out how to do. One lap, though.
• 1:08:29
  He's got to figure out his one lap because his...
• 1:08:32
  Why am I forgetting the name? Qualifying? Qualifying,
• 1:08:37
  yeah. His qualifying has struggled. sure i mean
• 1:08:40
  yeah i think that's fair i mean lando starts
• 1:08:42
  have has struggled right i think every driver
• 1:08:44
  has their own thing they need to work on but
• 1:08:45
  oscar he's had an incredibly strong rookie season
• 1:08:48
  incredibly strong second season championship
• 1:08:51
  in his second season like i don't think i don't
• 1:08:53
  hear enough people talking about that oscar is
• 1:08:55
  oscar i think is a future wdc and it could be
• 1:08:58
  this year which would i would be okay with yeah
• 1:09:01
  crazy as you see it one two yep i mean wdc so
• 1:09:05
  um you have hassan fifth Yes. I need to argue
• 1:09:08
  this. Close out with that. I need to argue this.
• 1:09:10
  So I think that Oliver Bierman is one of the
• 1:09:16
  better rookie drivers out of all the rest of
• 1:09:20
  them. He already has experience in the car. We
• 1:09:22
  saw him drive the car twice last season. And
• 1:09:26
  he's got an aptitude for it. So I think that
• 1:09:30
  we're going to see Oliver Bierman do well and
• 1:09:33
  do better than... uh, some of the other drivers
• 1:09:36
  given the car or better than some of the other
• 1:09:39
  rookies given the car. Uh, and I think that in
• 1:09:41
  regard to Esteban Ocon, I think Esteban Ocon's
• 1:09:44
  biggest problem in the last couple of years that
• 1:09:48
  we've seen was Alpine. I think Alpine didn't
• 1:09:51
  treat him right. And he's gone on record to state
• 1:09:53
  the fact that Alpine did not treat him right.
• 1:09:55
  They did not listen to him. They did not work
• 1:09:58
  with him. And because of that, it created a toxic
• 1:10:00
  work environment for him. Meanwhile, They're
• 1:10:03
  known for pushing people out. Right. And meanwhile,
• 1:10:06
  Ayau has been very open about wanting to work
• 1:10:08
  with Esteban and has been very open about wanting
• 1:10:11
  to use his knowledge. And I think the fact that
• 1:10:15
  right now, because Esteban doesn't have to fight
• 1:10:18
  against somebody like Pierre or Fernando Alonso,
• 1:10:22
  he doesn't have to prove himself against a giant
• 1:10:24
  that he needs to slay. He is the number one driver.
• 1:10:27
  So he just gets to go out there and be comfortable
• 1:10:30
  and drive the car for a team that wants him there.
• 1:10:34
  I think we're going to see a Esteban Ocon that
• 1:10:36
  we have never seen before. We are going to see
• 1:10:39
  Esteban Ocon's best season he has ever had. And
• 1:10:43
  probably ever will have. But damn it, I love
• 1:10:46
  your passion. I do like your passion. I think
• 1:10:49
  Esteban Ocon is actually a fairly good driver.
• 1:10:52
  He's not incredible. You got to be good to be
• 1:10:53
  on the grid. He's been around for a while. He's
• 1:10:57
  been around for a while. So like and like he
• 1:11:01
  has seen he's got race wins. Like how many other
• 1:11:05
  midfield drivers have race wins? It's really
• 1:11:08
  not that many. and so like you see it like he's
• 1:11:11
  got he's got the potential to do it and so i
• 1:11:14
  think that there's a very real world that we
• 1:11:17
  watch esteban carry this team to fifth okay along
• 1:11:22
  with the help of oliver bierman just being a
• 1:11:25
  talent sure um i could wow i'm an idiot i was
• 1:11:30
  gonna say i could see them finishing top 10 well
• 1:11:32
  yeah Yeah, I sure hope so. Holy cow. Anyway,
• 1:11:36
  what were you going to say, Jordan? Just quick
• 1:11:38
  counterpoints. Esteban has proved himself every
• 1:11:42
  now and then, but he's not consistently good.
• 1:11:44
  He's going into a Haas for the first time this
• 1:11:46
  year. There's going to be a learning period,
• 1:11:48
  and that might last him half a season. It's not
• 1:11:50
  going to be enough to get him a lot of points,
• 1:11:52
  enough points. His teammate is a rookie. I don't
• 1:11:56
  think Berman's going to be bad. He did get a
• 1:11:59
  little bit of experience, but two races, and
• 1:12:01
  one of them was in the sopping wet. I don't think
• 1:12:03
  that's enough to say he's going to do great.
• 1:12:06
  This season's going to be insane. It's a Haas.
• 1:12:08
  There's no way he's beating an Aston Martin.
• 1:12:10
  There's just no way. I disagree. There's just
• 1:12:12
  no way. They were beating the Aston last year.
• 1:12:15
  Barely. What do you mean barely? They were doing
• 1:12:17
  it every race. Aston was struggling to get out
• 1:12:20
  of 15th. They weren't doing it every race because
• 1:12:22
  Aston Martin beat them by a couple places and
• 1:12:25
  constructors. Post -summer, Aston was a backmarker.
• 1:12:31
  post summer aston was not i mean they were a
• 1:12:34
  lot of most of the bottom field is a back marker
• 1:12:36
  haas were also back markers like i'm not saying
• 1:12:40
  aston's good i'm just saying aston's better than
• 1:12:42
  haas i don't think so and you have two drivers
• 1:12:44
  who know the car And who know how to drive the
• 1:12:47
  car. That is the biggest argument. I think you
• 1:12:49
  have two tenured drivers in their car. It just
• 1:12:51
  can't happen. This will be interesting for the
• 1:12:54
  rest of the season. It's an interesting argument.
• 1:12:57
  Haas or Aston? You know I like Haas. You know
• 1:12:59
  I dislike Aston. And this is coming from somebody.
• 1:13:03
  I'm a fan of both teams. I'm a fan of both teams.
• 1:13:06
  I want to see both teams do well. I dislike the
• 1:13:09
  people in Aston. I like Alonzo. I like Alonzo,
• 1:13:13
  I guess. And I like Adrian Newey. Let me put
• 1:13:16
  my gavel down. We got wrapped. This has been
• 1:13:19
  great. We're a solid 10 minutes over anticipated
• 1:13:22
  time. We knew it was going to be a lengthy one.
• 1:13:24
  I was going to put a disclaimer in the beginning
• 1:13:26
  and I forgot. Mike, we are excited to have you.
• 1:13:30
  As much as possible this season. We're excited
• 1:13:33
  to come back. My voice went a little hoarse.
• 1:13:35
  I'm sure some people noticed, but I should be
• 1:13:37
  back. I thought that was just your voice. Shut
• 1:13:39
  up. Dang. Thank you for coming by. I'm super
• 1:13:43
  looking forward to having you on more. You have
• 1:13:45
  crazy takes, apparently. You know what's funny
• 1:13:49
  about that shirt, Joe? I did just bring a shelf
• 1:13:52
  over here to store our props. You could keep
• 1:13:55
  that shirt here and wear it every episode. One
• 1:13:57
  more thing. Or we could just put it up so he
• 1:13:59
  has to see it every single time. I thought I
• 1:14:01
  saw a glimpse of this, and then I thought it
• 1:14:03
  was rumor. Would you say that... I'm so sorry,
• 1:14:07
  Kev. I just bummed the mic. Would you say that
• 1:14:09
  Haas and Fifth is a certain kind of take? Absolutely.
• 1:14:13
  What would you call it? I would call that a tinfoil
• 1:14:14
  hat moment. You'd call it a tinfoil hat moment.
• 1:14:17
  We got the tinfoil hat. It has made its way here.
• 1:14:21
  It's damaged. It's damaged and in shipping. I
• 1:14:24
  will fix it. We have the tinfoil hat. I think
• 1:14:29
  it would be fun. The tinfoil hat moment goes
• 1:14:31
  to Mike this episode for Haas and Fifth. Mike
• 1:14:34
  with the tinfoil hat moment of the week. And
• 1:14:37
  you know what? We're going to remember this moment
• 1:14:40
  when... When Haas finishes fifth. When Haas finishes
• 1:14:42
  in fifth. I'm going to eat that hat. And Esamon
• 1:14:44
  Ocon is in ninth in WDC. I'm going to eat that
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  hat. And I'm going to look at you and I'm going
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  to point. All right, all right, all right. With
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  that, that's a wrap on the first Fast Laps episode
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  of 2025. Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe
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