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Kentucky & Tennessee Cryptid Encounters: The Dark Side of Chasing Dogman and Bigfoot · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everybody. Welcome to On the Hunt. I
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  Speaker 1: am your host, Jessica Jones. I'm the Crypti Huntress, y'all. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I am fresh off the field tonight. Off the field.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds weird. Out of the field, I'm fresh out
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  Speaker 1: of the field. And yeah, I took a super secret
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  Speaker 1: little trip over the past couple of days. I Am
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  Speaker 1: not going to be able to give a lot of
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  Speaker 1: details on that tonight because I still have guys out
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  Speaker 1: in the field tonight. Okay, but I did come home.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just say I was somewhere that I've been wanting
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  Speaker 1: to go for years now. I've been wanting to investigate
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  Speaker 1: this area for at least two years now, and I
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  Speaker 1: got to go yesterday and last night, and boy did
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  Speaker 1: it not disappoint y'all. And it is somewhere in Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: That's all I can really say. And we found everything
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  Speaker 1: from gigantic twenty plus inch footprints of big footprints to
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  Speaker 1: dogman tracks to having a lot of weird things happened
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  Speaker 1: to us last night. And it did pour down rain
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  Speaker 1: on us last night a bit, but it didn't stop
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  Speaker 1: us from having fun and from really getting out there,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, really doing some super duper boots on the
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  Speaker 1: ground field investigating out there in Tennessee. And I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get more into that. We'll talk about it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit tonight, you guys I have weren't maycheck back.
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  Speaker 1: We got Cryptoville here with us tonight, and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be talking tonight about Kentucky and Tennessee crypti encounters.
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  Speaker 1: I mightna be talking about what happened to us last
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  Speaker 1: night a little bit, and uh and the dark side
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  Speaker 1: of chasing dog Man and Bigfoot and uh. And I
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  Speaker 1: got to say, I did camp out in an old well,
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  Speaker 1: kind of camped out in an old cemetery last night.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't really in the cemetery, but I was right there.
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you, that was a first for me.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, and it was really interesting. Do you ever
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  Speaker 1: feel like somebody's always watching it out in the woods.
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  Speaker 1: That's how I felt last night. There's somebody watched me
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  Speaker 1: my every move. Okay, and it was not comfortable, but
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  Speaker 1: it was fun so uh. But nonetheless, we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: about the dark side of cryptid investigations and just in general. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is gonna be really interesting, y'all know, Marks from
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  Speaker 1: up at the lb L and so that's not where
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  Speaker 1: I was last night. I was not at the LBL,
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  Speaker 1: and today I just got home. I literally just got
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  Speaker 1: home and was able to take a shower real quick
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  Speaker 1: before we went live. But I was over more towards
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  Speaker 1: East Tennessee. Okay, So that gives you a clue right there.
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  Speaker 1: And shout out to all the guys that are still
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  Speaker 1: out there tonight. I actually I can say since since
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  Speaker 1: drewski did post this on social media, I was with
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  Speaker 1: Drew Skid with Crypto Warfare and Harley Owens.
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  Speaker 2: Yeay, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I got to go bigfooting with Harley Owens last night
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  Speaker 1: and today, and so shout out to those guys. They're
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  Speaker 1: out there tonight, and so I hope everybody's safe. I
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  Speaker 1: hope we're very safe. And I hope no ghosts followed
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  Speaker 1: me home. Okay, I did some protection on myself before
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  Speaker 1: I left, but man, I don't know. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: about these graveyards, y'all. That's where the dog men are.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's get to our show tonight, y'all. Okay, because
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  Speaker 1: on this episode I got Mark Maycheck here. Now, after
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  Speaker 1: a series of odd paranormal events, Mark Maycheck became interested
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  Speaker 1: in the paranormal cryptids UFOs and because of the things
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  Speaker 1: he experienced, he and Barton on a journey to understand
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  Speaker 1: the mysteries of the world. You guys can find him
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  Speaker 1: on his YouTube channel that's Cryptidville. Y'all know, Cryptiville. He's
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  Speaker 1: channel and please help me. Welcome to the show, my
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  Speaker 1: good friend from the Land between the Lakes area, mister Cryptdville,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Maychak. That's not Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Jessica, thank you for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, well, thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. This was This was kind of last minute.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't even sure if I was going to make
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  Speaker 1: it home for a show tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Well I was. I was kind of thinking about that
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  Speaker 2: today and I decided I would get in touch with
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  Speaker 2: you and see if you were going to have a show,
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  Speaker 2: and kind of kind of evolved from there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well there's there's been several people that sent
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  Speaker 1: me messages today and tonight asking are you having a
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  Speaker 1: show tonight? Because I usually posted earlier, but I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was, I was driving. I had a long drive
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  Speaker 1: actually today and it took me a while to get back,
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  Speaker 1: and so I didn't post anything until right before the
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  Speaker 1: show tonight. So surprise, we're here. I never missed a show, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I try to never miss one, and tonight's no different.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just glad that I made it back in
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  Speaker 1: one piece.
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  Speaker 2: Mark, We're glad you did it too. That's that is
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  Speaker 2: a long drive.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. The drive was worse. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know it was. It's a little creepy out there, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm used. I'm used to the bigfoots of the dog man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not used to the traffic. And I'm not kidding,
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  Speaker 1: like the traffic sucks. But bucket but yeah, does anybody
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  Speaker 1: go to BUCkies? Y'all know BUCkies? I tell you what,
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  Speaker 1: stop it. I don't know if it's good or bad
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  Speaker 1: to stop it to BUCkies.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: I get anxiety going in places like that, but I
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  Speaker 1: come out with a really good sandwich every time I go.
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  Speaker 1: So shout out to BUCkies. I am open for sponsorships BUCkies.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, have a little BUCkies beaver.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, Actually my son, my son had Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: he got We were on our way to the Florida
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  Speaker 1: conference last year in one of my conferences I was at,
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  Speaker 1: and he had My mom gave him twenty or twenty
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  Speaker 1: five dollars to spend in Florida, you know, as a gift,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, and we went into BUCkies. He spent it
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  Speaker 1: all on BUCkies, pajamas, on a wozzi and uh and
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  Speaker 1: we're that to our fancy dinner at the full disclosure
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  Speaker 1: now conference that's all did he did so? So yes,
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  Speaker 1: I deserve a sponsorship now, okay, And I'm just kidding
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  Speaker 1: that is so funny. Uh No, we we like to
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  Speaker 1: keep it fun. And yeah they do, they have, they
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  Speaker 1: have good stuff there, so uh it may it makes
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  Speaker 1: the road trips forth it sometimes, but nonetheless, Yeah, I've
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  Speaker 1: still not made it up to the l b O yet. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: I'd like, I'd like to come up there soon. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm making my way up there. I was
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  Speaker 1: in Tennessee and I've done some investigating up there, and
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  Speaker 1: uh and so Kentucky's next, it's next.
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  Speaker 2: Well you better bring you some chicker chicker dope and
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  Speaker 2: some uh.
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  Speaker 1: You all some bugs bray.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some some chicken repellent and uh some snake boots
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  Speaker 2: if you're gonna come during the summer.
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  Speaker 1: I have both. I have both. I actually I've had
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  Speaker 1: plenty of bugs that I was trying to forgure out all.
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  Speaker 1: My nose was stuffy today and then I remember it,
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  Speaker 1: Oh because I in held all those gnats last night
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  Speaker 1: and this morning That's why. And uh yeah, I really
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  Speaker 1: didn't hell a whole bunch of of a mosquitos and
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  Speaker 1: gnats today, and it's it's rough out there in those woods,
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  Speaker 1: out in those those mountains. But yeah, it's just that's
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the it's one of the dark sides
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  Speaker 1: of chasing dog Man for sure, I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 1: getting getting those mosquitos in my nose and stuff and
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  Speaker 1: in my mouth. But but yeah, but yeah, just making
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  Speaker 1: it out one piece is always good as well. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, what have you had going on
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  Speaker 1: up there is any news any any kind of new
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  Speaker 1: stuff going on at the lb L.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've well, you know, we've had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of bad weather here recently, and you know there for
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  Speaker 2: for a time they had it. Some of the areas
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  Speaker 2: closed down, you know, you know, as far as as
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  Speaker 2: far as activity goes, haven't really heard of a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that there's nothing going on, it's just
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  Speaker 2: you know, it just there are like phases that take
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  Speaker 2: place during the course of the year, you know, times
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  Speaker 2: that are more active than others, and it's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: But lately I have not heard of anything.
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  Speaker 1: What is a good time, because see, I know, like
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  Speaker 1: in different areas that I go to, it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the same like a year round, like we know when
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  Speaker 1: the best times to go to go bigfooting and going
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  Speaker 1: to check out the dog man's spots and stuff. We
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  Speaker 1: know when to go because it's when the weather's nice
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  Speaker 1: usually Okay, but see my team goes, and I know
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  Speaker 1: because my team goes whenever it's snowing, whenever it's a
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty degrees outside. We go all the
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  Speaker 1: time year round out in the field. But but in
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  Speaker 1: the LBL, do you find that like maybe it's more
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  Speaker 1: when the weather's nice that the critters come out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would say that it's probably. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've been over there when it's been nice, and I've
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  Speaker 2: been over there when it's been you know, bad weather.
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  Speaker 2: I've been over there during crazy weather, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and had activity during all those times. So it's really
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  Speaker 2: hard to nail down a a time frame that's that's
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  Speaker 2: actually better than any other. So I guess it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: it comes down to uh location. You know, it's not
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  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily the time or the conditions that you go,
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  Speaker 2: but it's the location because you know, the reality, the
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  Speaker 2: reality of it is that you know, I've through the years,
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  Speaker 2: I've spent a lot of time in the l b
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  Speaker 2: L and the majority of that time. And I know
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  Speaker 2: that that people might think that this is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit on the unsafe side, but you know, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of those times I was forced to go alone because
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  Speaker 2: I could not find anybody that was willing to go.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of people would talk a
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  Speaker 2: big game, but when it actually came time to to
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  Speaker 2: actually put the pavement, to put the get on the
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  Speaker 2: get on the pavement, they just weren't interested in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: really going. So yeah, I mean, all different times of
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  Speaker 2: the year, different conditions, all kinds of different scenarios, different places.
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  Speaker 2: I've been in places where I've had nothing happened. I've
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  Speaker 2: been in places where I've had things happen. It's kind
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  Speaker 2: of kind of interesting the way that that fluctuates.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hm oh yeah, oh yeah. You know, not everybody
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  Speaker 1: wants to go to the LB Hill, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people and I've noticed this too about
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't invite people out to go
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  Speaker 1: with me to where I go to my spots. My
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  Speaker 1: spots are kind of secret, okay, and so I don't
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  Speaker 1: invite a lot of people out. But but places like
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  Speaker 1: the LB. I could think, you know, I could say that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's like people want to go
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  Speaker 1: there in their minds, but when it when what is
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  Speaker 1: it the rubber meets road. That's what it is. When
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  Speaker 1: rubber mes road. Uh, it's actually quite daunting. And once
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  Speaker 1: you get into places like that, it's it's kind of scary.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like last night, you know, yesterday I drove
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  Speaker 1: up to Tennessee undisclosed location, okay, and I knew that
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  Speaker 1: we were going to be camping out near a near cemetery. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I knew that, but undisclosed location, right, But you get
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  Speaker 1: there and it wasn't even as it wasn't anything like
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  Speaker 1: I thought it. I thought it was gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: little more scary than it was, and it really wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But but I guess it's because of the people the
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  Speaker 1: company that I keep, you know, like those guys are
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  Speaker 1: out there with me. I feel really safe with them. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I feel really safe. That's really important. But I would
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  Speaker 1: never go by myself to somewhere like that, and even
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  Speaker 1: with one other person, I don't know. I think i'd
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  Speaker 1: probably go with one other person, okay, just something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I would never go by myself, Mark, I just couldn't.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I know that when when the normal,
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  Speaker 1: average person that wants to go that's not a cryptid
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  Speaker 1: field researcher, I can't imagine them won't even get out
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  Speaker 1: of the car when stuff gets scary out there, or
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  Speaker 1: even when you're just driving through the LBO. I think
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  Speaker 1: it'd be kind of scary.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the big thing about it is is this.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of a lot of people think
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  Speaker 2: that the LBL is a joke. And you know, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be the first to tell anyone. You know, you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to go over there and instantaneously have some kind
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  Speaker 2: of supernatural encounter, even a physical encounter with with something.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you may, but the odds of that happening
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  Speaker 2: are really slim. You know, I've had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: encounters around this area, but it took me twenty five
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  Speaker 2: years to have those encounters. So but with that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the LBL is is not a It's not a place
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  Speaker 2: to be taken lightly because you don't have just Bigfoot
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  Speaker 2: and dog Man to to contend with over there. You
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of other factors that come into play
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  Speaker 2: that you know, could change the course of you know,
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  Speaker 2: your visit in a in a not good direction.
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  Speaker 1: You know. So I tell people, I can't ask you
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  Speaker 1: what what what? What do you mean? It's not just
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  Speaker 1: it's not just cryptids, it's like people out there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, one of the big things is one
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  Speaker 2: of the inherent dangers is uh, recently, within the last
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  Speaker 2: five years, Uh, there has been a noticeable wild hog
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  Speaker 2: population that has kind of sprung up over there. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how that happened. Uh, the Forest Service
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  Speaker 2: indicates that that was the result of people bringing those
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  Speaker 2: those uh, those hogs in and turning them loose. And
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  Speaker 2: you do see that in some places where they will
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  Speaker 2: do that, where people will turn them loose. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that's the actual case or or not
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  Speaker 2: in that scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. You know what, Actually, when we were
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  Speaker 1: out at one of our spots that we do some
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  Speaker 1: research in, UH, we've encountered hog hunters, you know, people
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  Speaker 1: that the guys that will have their dogs out there
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  Speaker 1: who will be you know, let that I guess they
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  Speaker 1: let their their hunting dogs loose looking for hogs and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's kind of dangerous for us be out
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  Speaker 1: there because these guys are out there hunting and stuff
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  Speaker 1: and it's way deep, you know, in the woods. But
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  Speaker 1: but nonetheless they're they're looking for hogs. I'm wondering now,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, like, well, maybe I wonder if they let
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  Speaker 1: the hogs lose themselves too. I don't know. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I've never looked at it like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you if you look at the way the
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  Speaker 2: law laws for wild game and hunting are structured, one
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  Speaker 2: of the one of the things is that it's actually
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  Speaker 2: against the law to do that. And the reason why
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  Speaker 2: is because wild hogs, you know, after they're in an
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  Speaker 2: area for a certain amount of time or just the
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  Speaker 2: nature of them being in that area, they will become
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  Speaker 2: carriers of different diseases and and things like that, and
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  Speaker 2: it's it's actually unhealthy to process and and eat those critters. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, those are those are a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons why it's it's actually illegal to do that is
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  Speaker 2: because not just that, but also the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: destroy cropland and and kill other animals that are in
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  Speaker 2: the environment just by the things that they do in
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  Speaker 2: destroying the the.
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  Speaker 1: Landscape invasive species out there.
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  Speaker 2: Huh yeah, very invasive.
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  Speaker 1: As far as i'm interrupt you, what does DNR do
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, if you look at the information that's released now,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I know that in the l b L they've had
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: several contracted hunts that have taken place where they've gone
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: gone in and tried to capture and eradicate these wild
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: hogs and uh, you know last year, uh, they had
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a pretty successful rate of of eradication, but you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: according to the numbers that are being reported, it wasn't
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: anywhere near enough to basically get rid of them. So
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: there's there is still a problem.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I wonder how much they like how fast they multiply
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it to you, I've never I've heard about rabbits, have
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: never pigs.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: They're on the same level as rabbits and mice. Oh
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: they they can as soon as a sal has a
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: litter that I think it that. You know, I'm not
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: an expert on swine, but I'm pretty sure that within
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a week of having that litter, they're ready to breed
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: again and have you know, have another And that's just
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: a it may be less than that, I don't know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: but it's pretty quick it's a pretty quick turnaround.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Wow. Well that's interesting. Kent, thank you so much for
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: that supersticker. I appreciate you. Just Hey Jessica, Hey Kent,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: thank you for being here. Well, well, that's something that
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I've never I haven't come across a whole lot of
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: wild pigs out there in the field. Okay, but but
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I know that they're out there, and I've been warned
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: about them, and we've seen the hoof prints and stuff,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and they kind of got like a hoof foot kind
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: of not really a hoof. I don't know pigs feet.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I gutually saw the hoofs, don't you. They don't have
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: a nail on them?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Do they know they have hoofs?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's a hoof hoofs.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's it's very similar to a deer track. The difference
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: in them is usually when it's pig traffic, there'll be
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of them, and they'll be like a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: big area of ground that's torn up in the travel
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: route because they're they're looking for different things to eat
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: while they're traveling.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're a great food source for bigfoot and
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: dog man too. I would assume I.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Have heard that I've heard a lot of accounts that
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: involve them and cryptids, but you know, on the evidence side,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I've seen where people have found
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: what they call kill sites and stuff like that. But
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you know, to actually, it just makes sense to me
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that if it's a mobile food source that's roaming around
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: out there, that they would utilize that as a food source.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Seems gonna be easy, easy pickens if there's a whole
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: bunch of them out there to go eat. Yeah, I mean,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: we've we've even seen pictures of big I've seen pictures
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: of bigfoots. I've talked about one extensively of I don't
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: know if it's a big foot or a dog man.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I think it was a gugway is what we decided on.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: That was that one where it's holding illis gets holding
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a dog upside down or something. Maybe that's not a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: pick I think it was a dog. I forgot the
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: name of.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: That one, the Beast of Seven Shoots pictures seven Shootes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I said, yes, but I think that's that's up been
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: like Canada or north of New York somewhere right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Actually, I thought that came out of Minnesota or the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I thought it was in I thought
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it was like right right above New York or somewhere
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like in Canada, I thought.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: But I'm not sure. I would have to look it up.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure something. I bet somebody in our chat knows.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll look. We'll see if anybody knows, y'all
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: put it in there. But it's yeah, but we we've
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: we've seen. I've seen. I've seen several pictures with a
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: big foot or it looked like a bigfoot carrying something
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like some kind of pig sized animal, you know, hog
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: or a dog or something like that makes sense. Yeah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I know they're out there eating them, but yeah, I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, we're talking about the dark side tonight, right, Mark,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: we had we had a little fun conversation before the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: show tonight, and I and I got to say, like
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't there's a lot of dark sides to the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: cryptid world, okay, and chasing bigfoot, chasing dog and all
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I was joking around today
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: like my darkest side was, you know, not having a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: shower for twenty four hours and smelling bad, okay, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: having to drive home like that for five hours to day. Okay,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that was my darkest thing that I experienced. Uh, but there,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: but there is a very dark side to this and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: uh and honestly, I've been actually kind of worried about
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the you know, being right there at that cemetery and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: and even having clingers on is what I like to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: call them, you know, and things follow me home and
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But as far as you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: just something followed me home, that would be the darkest
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: side for me, you know. And what was your take
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: on all this?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean it depends on what you're
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: what you're actually doing. I mean, you know, used to
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: be you know, back back in the day. Uh that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: makes me sound old, but back in the day, back
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: in the day, whenever you know, I was involved in
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: you know, paranormal quote unquote research, uh, ghosts in the supernatural,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: you know, it was it was always a thing of ah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: of you know, being being concerned about you know, attachments
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, which is which is a valid concern.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: But we get over into the cryptids and you know, ah,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: so long story short, you know, I decided towards the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: end of my span of time that I was involved
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: in paranormal you know, it just got to the point where,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I was seeing too much and I just
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I had to I had to take a break. So
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna do you know, I've got
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: these cryptid encounters. I'm gonna look into this more and
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: get away from that, because I mean, I was, I
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: was seeing full body apparitions. I was seeing them everywhere.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And you know, when you're seeing those things in places
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: that you you know, wouldn't expect to it, it kind
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: of has an effect on you, you know, because you're
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: not expecting to see a full body apparition while you're
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: at work.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, oh, you're not previously seen one there, no, yeah, So.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, as far as as far
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: as it goes, you know, I've I've experienced a whole
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: lot of different stuff, and but as far as from
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: the cryptid aspect, you know, once you get involved in it,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you know, initially you don't you don't feel like there's
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: a supernatural paranormal side to it. But you know, the
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: longer that you're involved in it, the more your view
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: changes on it. Because I'll be the first to admit
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: when I first started out, I was a I was
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: a flesh and blood apor. I thought I thought.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I was too when I first started that was a
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: long time ago.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I thought Bigfoot was an undiscovered relic, relict hominid and
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that that was that was it, cut and dried. But
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: but through the years, uh, the experiences that I had
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: changed and reshaped my viewpoint on that because of the
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: frequency of strangeness that I encountered through the years. You know,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot of weird
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: stuff on a whole lot of different levels, and you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to to say that there's not a supernatural aspect to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: them is a is First off, any any researcher that
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: says that they don't believe in that or that it's
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: WU and they don't follow the WU camp either one
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: they haven't been researching very long or two they're in denial.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I always assume. I'm like, well, y'all just
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: hadn't been in it long enough, or you hadn't been
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: out in the field.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Like I have.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, That's what that's what I had. I just assume sometimes,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm not dissing on anybody that doesn't believe in
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the supernatural aspect of Bigfoot. Okay, but if if you're
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: watching my show, you're probably probably fully aware there's probably
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a supernatural element. We call it the X factor. On
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: my research teams, they have an X factor about him.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: A lot of this, does you know? We were sitting
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: around was talking to Harley last night, Harley Owens, he's
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: been on the show and Bigfoot reports and data, okay,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: and and we were talking about I guess a lot
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: of us were talking actually, and we're you know, discussing
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like there's it's all connected. There's there's so many other
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: things to it. You know, it's not just Bigfoot, it's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: not just dog man. It's UFOs and portals, and you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you get in you get into it out there, we're
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: not just out there having to watch our backs for
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you know, bigfoot activity and listening to owls that you know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: are sound like they're nine hundred pounds out there like
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: we did last night. We had some weird, weird owls
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: last night trying to trick us and stuff.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: It was weird.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: It was the weirdest thing. It was the weirdest all
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: experience I ever had. Last night. We'll talk about it
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: after the guys got out of the woods and we
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: can talk about it. I'll tell you all about it more.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: But but it was really weird, and it's it's more,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it's more to it than that, because you got to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: watch out for not only these cryptids, these flesh and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: bone bigfoots out there, but they've got some supernatural elements
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to it, and we don't want to go missing or
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: end up in a portal, you know, And it's just tricky.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: It's tricky out there.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's the interesting thing about it, you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: because you know, the progression of my research was, you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I went from researching UFOs and aliens to the paranormal
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and then ended up in the in the in the cryptozoology,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: you know, bigfoot dog man area. And you know, my
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: experiences with the UFO alien aspect and my experiences with
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: the supernatural, paranormal and bigfooted dog man. You know, through
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: the years, I was not able until within the last
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: five years to formulate a connection between those things because
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: of the way that those things presented themselves. And you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I'll be the first to admit that there is a
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: connection and they are related. And you know, you can't
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: have one without the other. I guess it's the bottom line,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: you know, because you know, you got Bigfoot that hang
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: out in graveyards, you got dog Man to hang out
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: in graveyards. Why are they doing that? And it's just
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: a it's it's a big question, you know, because we
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: don't we don't really understand. I mean, yeah, we can
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: formulate a hypothesis on what that might be, but no
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: one really has the answer. It's all it's all conjectured
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and speculation, and it just makes it makes it interesting.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: But I guess the whole reason why I'm mentioning all
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: this is because as I was going through those different stages,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I was not able to see the connection
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: until within the last five years. Wow.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Well, there's so much going on at the LBL, and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of testimony from people out there,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and it even includes some of the testimony includes Bigfoot
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and dog Man like seen together. I have never experienced
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that before, but but we do, like like this weekend, okay,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: we've we actually found what appeared to be a canine,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a large canine track out there where we were with
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's not with. It wasn't like in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the same location, but it was in the same light.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say ten acres. Let's say ten acres or so,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It was a lot. We've covered a
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: lot of ground, Okay, let's say five to ten acres
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: something like that. And I uh, loli like a can
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: ie track, a big one and big like twenty plus
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: inch bigfoot tracks out there with it, Okay, And so
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I don't know. I mean, is
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: that common up there? Do you hear a lot about that?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Like where there? I know they're in the same environment,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: but do you ever do they do they hang out together?
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: You think, what's your thought?
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Well, my thought on that is, oh lord, you're asking
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: me what my thought on it is. So I can
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: take you to a place right now. I know that
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: there are bigfoot and dog men in that location. It's
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a it's a spread of land. It's about eleven hundred
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: and twenty five acres. It used to be a hunting club,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: but it was sold to a private owner. When that
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: property was a hunting club. There is when I learned
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: what would actually resided on that property, And never did
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I encounter it was either one or the other. They
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: were never in the same place. They never to my knowledge,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: worked together. So really the only thing I can speak
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: of is my experience, so you know, and and then
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: on top of that, you know, I've been in the LBL,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I've seen bigfoot in the LBL, you know, never have
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: seen a dog man in there with those bigfoot, So
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It just makes it kind of kind
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: of interesting. And I'm trying not to go too far
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: off in the darkness.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Well can I can I ask you.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: A question about your bigfoot experience because I've mainly talked
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: to you about your dog man experience at the LBL.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But there's just as many of not more, big foot
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: encounters out there, I guess, but we don't hear about those.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I never hear about the big foot encounters out there.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I just hear about dog man. What was your big
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: foot encounter like, was it at the LBL.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Which one you tell me?
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Listen, do you have do you have or have they
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: all been at the Land between the Lakes or have
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: they been in other places?
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So I've had a it's been a mix, you know.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I've had experiences inside and outside of the l B
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: L One of my my actual I call it my
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: my second inc owner actually took place on a military installation, which, uh,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: it's not far from here, and that location is actually
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: not far from the LBL. And then you know, through
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: the years, you know, I've had encounters and sightings inside
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and outside. So interestingly, what's weird about it is, you
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: know I've I've uh, so there's this I guess I'll
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: just share. Started by sharing one of the uh, one
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: of the sightings that I had in this one location.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: So we went to this location during an outing with
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a group that I was involved with. Who So anyways,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: we went to this location and there's a graveyard on
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the right hand side of the road, it's a small cemetery,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: and the other side of the road there's a big
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: hill that goes up and it's quite tall. Well, when
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: we pulled up at this location, we just kind of
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: stopped in the middle of the road and want the
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: vehicle behind me. They had a they had a dog
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: in the vehicle with them, but they did not get
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the dog out of the vehicle. So this bigfoot upon
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: top of the hill was throwing black walnuts at this
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: truck in the bed of the truck to try to
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: get the dog to come out of the vehicle and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: was doing that. Then some time later, we had another
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: event that we went to and we went by this
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: same location, and as we were coming up to the location,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: when the headlights came around the curve, I saw the
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: bigfoot coming down the side of the hill into a
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: flat area. Because the person that was leading that expedition,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: if you will, had did some calls and it was
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: actually leaving the hilltop in the direction of those calls,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and we happened to catch it as it was as
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: we were going around the curve, coming down off the hill.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: So it's uh, kind of kind of a kind of
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: an interesting scenario. You know, even though we were in
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: the wrong location when we initially stopped and did the calls,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: some of us were still able to see that particular
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: bigfoot at that the location we were supposed to stop at.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Then there's the one that just baffles me. I don't
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: understand this at all. So we had this. You know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the big thing is you have these groups that come
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: down to the LBL and they'll pick out a campground
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: or they'll pick a location, and they'll have these meet
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: and greets and stuff like that, which is all fine
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: and dandy. So I went over there to attend one
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: of these. And while I was there that night, after
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: a sunset, they built this big fire and they had
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: this big circle that they had everybody around the fire pit,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and they had somebody doing you know, speaking about different
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: things and kind of standing around there listening to him. Well,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: at the end of the campground where the road forks,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: there's a there's a tree that is in the center
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: of that fork, and there is I've checked it several times.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I've checked it multiple times through the years. But I
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: was standing there and there was a gentleman that had
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: stepped over and he was like, hey, man, why are
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: you Why are you hanging out over here in the shadows.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm hanging out over here in the
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: shadows up next to this tree because I'm keeping the
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: light out of my eyes so I could see these
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: bigfoot that are standing down here at the fork. Oh my.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: So they there were at least two that were standing
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: down there, watching the group and listening to the storytellers. Well,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I tell this guy this and he didn't even look
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: down there, and he was just like, oh okay, and
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: he just went back to the store telling thing, And
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is thrown with this dude?
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: You know, he's maybe I thought you were they thought
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you were crazy.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Probably I don't know, but I'm standing there and now
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: when it when it uh would turn its head a
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: certain direction, I could see, you know, you could see
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: one two eyes and it would all it would alternate
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: as it was, you know, turning its head. And this
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: thing's eyes were as big around as road reflect or
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: driveway reflectors. That's how big this thing's eyes were, and
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: pretty big. So I've tried to figure out why that
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: guy was just I don't know, it just seemed totally okay.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: It just went on about his business.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the big thing. You know, you're there,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: you know too, which I mean, granted, some people don't
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: come there to have an experience, but I mean that's
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: that's the thing, you know, is is people want to
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: come in there to have some kind of experience. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: you know, it was a relatively peaceful experience, and uh,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: it just kind of baffles me that the that the
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: guy was just disinterested.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Well, some people want to keep their head in the sand,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: kind of like an Ostrich, and that an Ostrich does
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: that Yeah, some kind of animally emu or something. Uh,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you just want to keep your head in the sand.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: They don't they don't want to know. They don't want
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to know. There's big foots out there, and most people,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't even believe in it anyways,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: until they until they have an encounter.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So so that was your first experience of
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: bigfoot or was that just one? I mean, it was
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: just one.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: That was just one?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you said that was near the military base, right,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: so that was not that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: No, that story I have not told.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh that's right.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: That story. That story has been earmarked for a book
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: that else, somebody else is going to be putting out.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So we can't even talk about it.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Well I can talk about it, but you know, basically,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll just give them the condensed version of it.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: So I watched the big would run through a fairly
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: open area of woods trees, and this thing was extremely fast,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: and it had, uh, its hair was the color of
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: an Irish setter. And this thing looked like it was clean.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: It looked clean, shiny, like it were's like it shampooed
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: its hair.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding you're telling me.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: These bigfoots looked have better hair than us. I mean,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I was. I was pretty gross today.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: By in the day.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. We got dumped. The rain just
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: dumped on us last night, and it was we didn't
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: have showers and stuff like that.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: We were we were, We were in the mud. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: was covered and I fell down. I did fall down
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: last night. Okay, full disclosure. We all fell down.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: There was a hill we just couldn't get around falling
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: down it and it was pure mud. And yes, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: don't even care. I was walking around with mud on
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: my butt on. I don't care. Okay, it was fun.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I can't worry about that. Got to keep going. Okay.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: But but nonetheless, you know, so Bigfoot's rather look at
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: how do they keep their hair so shiny? I have
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: my hair grows today.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. The only only thing, the only
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: thing I can surmise from that experience that that made
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it more interesting is the part of the story that
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I'm not telling, and that's going to be released in
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: that in that book, if if, if, and when it
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: comes out. Okay, Okay, Well, I have no control over.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well okay, well you had mentioned that
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: the Bigfoot satting was near a military base, like some
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: got a military assawment. That happens a lot. I mean,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: that's uh, there's so many cryptosatings around cemeteries and military bases.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Those are like two of them. Main places you hear
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: about cryptocitings and the side of the road, Okay, side
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: of the road, uh, chasing people in their cars, following
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: people crossing the road, peeking out from the side of
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: the road, all that kind of stuff. I mean, those
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: are those are those are some of the main spots
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: international parks.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Well, that's just like, that's just like I've got a
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I've got an extremely creepy story that uh you know,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: and this one, this one has been what's the best
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: word for me to use, it's been it's been retold
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: many times by certain individuals, and uh it you know, naturally,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not here to throw Indian anybody under the bus.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: That's not that's not anything uh productive, But you know
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: it kind of goes along with the topic of the show, right.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: You know, you get out there and you have these
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: experiences and and you do this research and stuff, and
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: you know, I think it's it's it's valuable for people
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: that are not researchers or that may be interested in
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: becoming a researcher to understand what they're really getting into
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: when they when they get into this uh topic area,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: because you know, I mean, I've been doing this for
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: a long time. I've seen a whole lot of stuff.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I've met a you know, I didn't get in like,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: like I've said before, I didn't get into this to
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: research and have experiences with people. I got into it
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: to understand my experiences that I was having. But through
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: time I learned that in in in the whole cogs
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: of the machine, you get into the scenario where it
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: becomes a study on personalities and personality disorders and different people.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: And you know, oh my gosh, you're not talking about
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot anymore, are you.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about people.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: That's you know, that's actually true. That actually is true.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I can agree with it. That's funny, you know.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: And and and then to make things even worse, is
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: you know you've got the I said I wasn't gonna
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: mention any names earlier, but I'm going to mention this
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: one got the Rick Dyers of the world that are
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: that are out there, you know, trying to perpetrate a fraud,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: and you know it that complicates things, you know, staging,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: posing evidence, you know, misleading people, and it just makes
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: it makes it a whole lot more difficult than it
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: should be. So anyways, I forget where I was even
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: going with that.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Well that's well, that's true, you know, it's uh, it's
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: just talking about the personality types and and you know,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: getting into the cryptid world and dealing with this. And
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I know you're you're kind of a lone wolf when
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: it comes down to it a lot of times too,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: because you go out there. You said that you do
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: some of this research by yourself, and you know, I
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: prefer to go I do go out sometimes, you know.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I usually I'm a kid and my dog with me. Okay,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: And that's not real bigfoot research because it can't take
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: your dog out there for that, y'all. You just can't, sorry,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: or your kid. But uh, but I get out in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: the woods a lot.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: I do get out in the woods a lot. And
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: uh and when I go out in the field, I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: do have a lot of people with me. But see,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: that's why I have these teams that I'm on, especially
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: my old my don't say my old teams. You know,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: we all meld together very well. We messed real real
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: well together, and we don't we're kind of I'm not
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: gonna say we're all stuck up. We don't let people
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: in our groups, you know what I mean. But we're
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: kind of like we work well as a team and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: we don't need extra people coming in, you know what
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: And uh and so.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: But but when you go out in the field and
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: you got like new people with you, and like, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: sometimes like let's say, for instance, this weekend, you know,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people that are invited I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: had never met before, not a lot couple you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: people I never met and stuff, and and so you know,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: it's just it is what it is. You know, everybody's
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: really super nice and we got lucky. Everybody's really cool. Okay,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: But but that's something that you do have to contend
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: with when you're out there doing the cryptive research. Got
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: to go out with people you trust. Okay, That's what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: I always say. Yeah, keep it, keep it, keep it
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred, Okay, with the people you take
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: out there, take it, keep it one hundred Yeah, so
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: people make sure you can trust them.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: So uh uh, I recalled why I was bringing all
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: that up. So you know, you've you've got these these
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: these people that will that will take your information and
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: use it for their own benefit. And in some cases,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm not saying everybody's like that, but you know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: it's important for us to to recognize that there are
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: people out there that like that. And this particular story
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to share is a story that has
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: been done that way by by a lot of uh well,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: several different people were a couple of different people. Let
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: me just put it like that, even to within the
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: last year. You know, this story has been rehashed by
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: one particular person. But nonetheless, so when I was in
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: the military, I went through basic training at Fort lender Wood,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: and towards the end of basic training, part of the
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: training is, you know, you got to go out on
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: the road march X number of miles and then you
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: have to they call it BiVO whack, which is basically
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: just camping.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: That's what we do. I like doing that. I go
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: hand at camping. That's kind of similar. Soike in.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So that I can paint this picture so people get
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the full understanding of what what happened. So in in
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: in our group, our group was a was a whole
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I would say, probably a whole battalion's worth of people.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: That's more than a hundred people. So we marched into
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: this area. We get there and that night, that first night,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: we got there right as it was getting dark. So
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: they tell us to set up our you know, our
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: tents and blah blah blah. So we do that, we
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: get ready to bed down, we do the things that
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: we're supposed to do before we do that, and then
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: we bed down. Well I'm inside my tent and I'm
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: out cold because i'm you know, like I was tired.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: So during the night, in the middle of the night,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know what time it was because you know,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: we didn't have watches or any of that stuff, no
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: cell phones.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: You had to kind of go by the moon where
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the moon and the sun were located.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were doing those stick a stick of.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Stone in the ground, see where the sun hits at
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: in the shadow casts.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Well, this was in the middle of the night. So yeah, anyways,
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I remember I wake up and I'm just laying there
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to go back to sleep, and I
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: got this weird feeling that I could not shake, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, something is not right. I didn't know
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: what wasn't right, but I knew that something was not right.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: So I, uh, the way that that that you enter
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: your pup tent, there's a there's a couple of ways
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: you can do it. But I was actually sleeping on
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: my on my stomach in this tent. So when I
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: came out of it, I came out of it backwards,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: you know, feet first, and I was kind of like
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: in a squatted position and then I stood up. Well,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: when I stood up, I'm face to face. Now, mind you,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: there are like one hundred people spread out in this
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: area that I'm in that are in their pup tents, okay,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: And when I when I stand up, I am face
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: to face, like really really close to you know, I
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: could have reached out smacked whoever this was. And I'm
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: face to face with what I think is another soldier
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at him and they didn't move and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: they're just standing there, and real softly, I whispered, what
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: are you doing? Nothing no answer, no movement, no nothing,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: They're just standing there. So I'm standing there looking at
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: what I'm thinking, and I'm thinking to myself, if he
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: don't do something, I'm fixing the bulldog this dude, you know,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: because this is creepy weird, you know, so.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: That is really weird.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: How can I ask you?
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: How tall was this person?
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: M about? It was about my height.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm standing there and I'm thinking, well, maybe they
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: didn't hear me, so so I say it again, this
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: time a little bit louder. What are you doing? And
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: they're just standing there and they're not moving, and I'm thinking,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I'm fixing the grab this dude. And DDT was talking here,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: so I'm standing.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I'm clothesline this dude, so I'm going to start for that.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: I'm standing there looking at them, and all of a sudden,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: from behind me on the road, I hear the sound
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: of boots coming down the road and they're kind of close,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: you know, they had to have been in order for
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: me to hear them. So I turn and I look,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: and I see that it's another company or battalion that's
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: marching into that area for their BiVO whack. And I'm like, okay,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: nothing to be worried with. So when I turned back,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: whatever or whoever this was was gone. There was no sound,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: there was no movement, there was no tree for this
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: thing to get person to get behind. So the first
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: thing I want I want to clarify is I'm not
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: saying that this was not a person or that it
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: was a cryptude or anything like that. I'm just relating
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: what actually happened. Wow, So it was. It was extremely creepy, weird.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And if the dude hadn't have did something or moved
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: or said something, he probably would have got bulldogged out there.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I would have woke everybody up.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: I guarantee you that maybe he just needed one of
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: those pup tents he wanted inside your tent. I'm just kidding,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: your little one man tent. That wouldn't have been very
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: very comfortable. That's weird though. I mean, we could go
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: down the list of all the possibilities of what that
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: could have been, including the black eyed children. Could have
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: been a black eyed kid or something, but I don't know.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: That just sounds really odd for them not to say anything.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was somebody's sleepwalking too, But yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm yeah, I mean and that there was
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of moonlight and another thing
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: I want to to clarify. The area that we were in.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: There were dry leaves everywhere. You know, it had rained
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: in a while, so if they'd have walked away or
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: ran away or whatever, I would have heard them. So
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: it was just weird. So you know, like I said,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say that it's anything or was anything.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just you know, relating how weird it was.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I get a lot of stories from my friends
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: who I have a lot of my my big footing
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: friends especially are and it's not just bigfoot now we
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: investigate everything, but a lot of my cryptid field research
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: friends are all former military of some branch of some sort,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and a lot of them have a lot. I have
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of really creepy stories, a lot of you
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: know out in places like Fort Stewart and stuff, you know,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: encountering or Fort Benning and Georgia we live in. I
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: live in Georgia, okay, And a lot of one of
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: those guys that live in Georgia to to or have
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: been stationed in Georgia. We got Long Island big Foot
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: up in this chat tonight.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: L I B.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: He was stationed down at Fort Benning at some point
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: down in Columbus that's near the Troop Heard Corridor, y'all,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: where we do some of our research and have lots
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: of missing persons and stuff down here. But but they
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: talk about coming face to face with bigfoots out in
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: the field when they're doing I don't know, what do
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: you call them drills or something. I don't know, out
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: in the middle. They throw take all the guys out
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the forest, and they have to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: do whatever they do out there, their practice practice war there,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: war practice. Gosh, I don't even know what you call that.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: But but when they're out there doing doing drills and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: stuff and probably shooting practice and whatnot, I mean they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: come face to face with big foot.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's called a field training exercise.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Field training exercises. We're we're training, yeah, whatever, training training
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: for battle, I mean training training the battle bigfoot out there,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I guess. I mean, I've been told that some souls
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: are taught to shoot above the heads, Okay, and I'm
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: assuming that's the case they encounter giants out in the field.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: I think our military is fully aware of cryptage. What
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: do you think.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I would say that they are. Yeah, I'm gonna divert.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going to divert that back to that original military
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: installation story. I'm pretty sure that they are. Without spoiling
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: that story for the people that are gonna purchase that
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: book later on. Uh, there there is some rather interesting
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: stuff about that story. Mm hmm.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, Amy says absolutely, Yeah. I think I think our
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: military works with them. That's just what I think. I
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: don't know, though, I don't know for sure. But that's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: just all this research we've done, all these remote viewing
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: targets and all these crazy things that go on around
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the world. I don't doubt it. I definitely don't doubt it,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know, one of the dark
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: we're talking about dark sides, the dark side of you know,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: chasing Bigfoot dog Man and do it on this cryptive research. Well,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: it's also the government coming after us, right, wouldn't you say?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: That's that's actually kind of dark, a little bit worrisome.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: When it comes, it's like, I don't worry about it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: It is what it is.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: You know, I've gotten proverbial knocks on my door at
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: least one. Okay, but when it came to see. That's
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: remote viewing, remote viewing stuff. That's a little bit. You know,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been remote viewing, I guess according to
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: some people. But uh, but you know, people say they
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: get followed around and you know, vans pull up. You know,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: my my crew, they usually pull up in a van. Okay,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: but they're not they're not like they're doing it for fun. Okay, okay,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: So but anyways, but you know, you see these black
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: vans pull up and like paramilitary guys hopping out of it.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying we do that.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: I've heard its like that taking place. I've only had
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: one instance where there was there was actually somebody that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: showed up here. And you know, after after I let
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: it be known that I was gonna my my motive
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: operating going forward was gonna be captured the flag, they
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of backed off on that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Well, well that's pretty interesting. We gotta you know, I've
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: had people on my show before that talk about how
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: they go out and I know that they are. I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: don't know for a fact, but they've told me. Okay,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: I can only say what people have told me. I
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: don't do I don't go digging into these people y'all,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: especially you know people I've had all my shows in
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: the past and stuff, but I've had people that claim that,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you know, they've got people that are law enforcement and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: you know, they go in these like dog man teams
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: and the gear upe and I don't know, I don't
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing out there, but anyways, and it's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: almost either getting paid to do it or something. I mean,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if people claim that they're dog they're
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: hunting dog men like for our government and stuff ound
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: there or some kind of agency.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to say that that doesn't happen,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: because you know, I've actually seen an instance of that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: taking place myself. You have firsthand at the l b
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: L near it. Not any.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: But uh oh, I think we've talked about that. It's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: probably in private. I talked to you about it.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, OK. Yeah, So to not throw anybody
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: under the bus, so just just be be aware. I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: think it's important that that people be aware, whether you're
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: researcher or just an interested party, that not everybody in
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot community is your friend first and foremost, and
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: U some of these people are not who they portrayed
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: themselves to be. In a lot of different ways than
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: just you know, you know, you can look at that
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: from a lot of different angles.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: I'm damn you went there. That's the truth, though you're
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: not lying.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: You could say, well, you know, one thing that I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: learned in my early days of doing this research, there
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: was a gentleman by the name of Jim Keegan. I
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: know a lot of the people that are in the
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: community today, probably only the old timers would remember him,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: but he and I had some conversations about the importance
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: of honesty and integrity as it comes to play with
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: this subject, and even even doing things in jest can
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: affect your integrity. And you know, I mean, I'll be
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: the first to men I like to laugh and cut
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: up and have a good time. But there are things
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: that are that it's acceptable to do that with and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: things that are not. And you know it, it can
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: have a negative effect on on your credibility when it
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: comes to, you know, being in the position to release information.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it gets it gets kind of interesting.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: It does, you know. I get a lot of people
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: being being a podcaster. I guess you can call it
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: a do I don't know. I guess I thought I
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: did live shows I didn't realize I was a podcaster, Okay,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: but I guess that's what I am now. But being
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: doing what I do and being field researcher, I get
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that contact me and want to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: tell me stuff, you know, and uh, and I got
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: to take it all with the grain of salt, because
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you can't, you know, why why why would people want
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: to give me the inside information this stuff that's so
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: super secret and important and stuff. And I'll take it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: I love I love getting it, y'all. Y'all keep it coming, okay, everybody,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: keep it coming out there. But you have to be
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: really discerning about it because it's like, well, I don't know,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: why why am I getting this kind of information? Do
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so I just have
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: to be How to be selective is to like what
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I especially if I talk about something on air or whatever,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to that nature, I try
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: not too too much. But I mean, I've got people
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: that I believe could be real insiders that have a
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: lot of good information. They do tell me stuff sometimes,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: but but you know, I've also been in it long
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: enough mark to know, and I've gotten to know people,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: and I I know that I know I network a lot, okay,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: and I know people from all over the world the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: decrypted research, and uh, I don't even want to go
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: there tonight. This is so terrible. I don't want to
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: talk about this. But it's like there are people that
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: I do believe that are put in you know, places
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: with you know, platforms and stuff that aren't putting out
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: real good information. Okay, that's all. I'm just gonna leave
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: it that.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the that's the thing. Yeah, that's the thing
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: that It doesn't matter whether you're in the UFO community
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: and the normal community or the Bigfoot community or the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: dog Man people or whatever you're gonna you're gonna run
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: into that. And the whole reason why, in a nutshell
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: is is because you know, there's this this concerted effort
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: two for you know, a lot of people say they
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: don't understand or know why the government or these organizations
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: or these people would you know, go to such great
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: links to try to to try to keep these topics,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: you know, suppressed. You know, if if you know, one
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: of the big things that I believe in is you know,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: everything there's there's nothing new under the sun. Everything that
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: that all the answers are there. You just have to
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: be able to look, be willing to look for them
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: and willing to accept them.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: And you have to be willing to go out and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: chase the truth too about stuff. And yeah, and that's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: why I really like doing these shows and stuff, because
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I'm out there in the field. You are too, you know,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: we're out there in the field. We got the first
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: hand knowledge of it.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I waited ten years. I never meant to go public
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: with what I do, and uh, and so I I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: kind of know, I kind of know what's going on
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: more I know, I think I know what's going on
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: the less I know, you know. But uh, but it's
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: but it's good to have a good base, a good
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: footing in the cryptid world, you know, and to be
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: a part of it for so long and not talk
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: about it with anybody publicly. And so I feel like
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: it's good to I've got an eye for like who
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: knows what's really up and who doesn't. Even with that,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I have a good eye for it.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Now, even with that, I would be I would be
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: careful with that, you know, because you know, I mean
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: you were talking about people giving you information, you know,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's equally important to realize that there are
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: people out there that are are looking to siphon information,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, from you or any anyone else for whatever reason.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: You know that they have on their their agenda. So
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that does happen as well.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: So I've had someone from every community attempt to destroy me.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: It's like a fun little game now like I used to,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I used to get upset about it, Now I don't.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I think it's funny, uh to try to pick me
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: apart and stuff when it comes to the cryptid stuff,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's why I keep a lot of
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: things to my chest still, you know, as far as
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: my teams go and everything. You know, you never tell
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: everybody everything, you know when it comes to stuff. But
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I put I put out a lot
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: of good information to the public, and we do talk,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: we talk about it.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: It's like even tonight, like I'm not going to discuss
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: my my guys out in the field and like where
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: they're at. I'm definitely going to say exactly where they're at,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: but like what they're doing, because that's that's it would
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: affect the research. You know, people don't need to know
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: where those guys are at you know, I shouldn't even
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: really be talking about it at all. And out of
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: the integrity of you know, of everybody being out the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: team being out there this weekend and stuff, you know,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: well you had to be careful about that kind of stuff.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, the definite thing about it is, you know,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: like for example, and and I know we've had this
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: conversation before where we'll be in contact and you'll ask,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: have you been to the field lately?
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you're right there, like you're you're you're
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: might go to when it comes to the land between
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: the lakes.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Mark, Well, here, here's the reality of that. You know,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: you have to understand that when you pick the phone
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: up and you text somebody, you know, hey, I'm going
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: to the to the field or I'm going in such
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: and such location. You know, so I guess what I'm
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say, And I hope you're not
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: put off by this, because sometimes I might not be
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: one honest, But to me, yeah, with Mark, with that,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: because because because of the simple fact that you know
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: in this you know there there is there is danger
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: in communicating certain information that's.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Right on your phone. You don't know who's listening, first
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: of all, and you know.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Those are things to consider because you know, I mean,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: it's just the reality of.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: It, that's right, that's right. Well, Ricardo says government uses
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: spies to spy on researcher, so be careful. Yeah, I've
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: heard that. I've heard that.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Well, we had a we had an incident where we
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: had gone over there was a group that had that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: had come up to the l b L and they
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: were having a camp out and they invited some of
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: our group and we went over there, and while we
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: were there, there were three guys that came in. It's
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: kind of interesting the way that this went down. So
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: it was a Hispanic guy, a black guy, and a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: red necky, skinny, lanky white guy that had a PBR
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: belt buckalong red naked.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Want I want one of those on a belt? It's okay, interesting, Okay.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Now these guys were they were in the military, and
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: they had come over there to camp out before we left. Yeah,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: before we left the PBR guy. The other two guys
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: left once they realized they would not be able to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: integrate themselves into our group. Oh and they left ridden
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: that guy there because yeah, before it.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Was done, so all those guys the pby fit in
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: best with y'all.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so before it was all said it done, he
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: was actually going out on you know, research.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I said no new friends. We don't
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: need no new friends. As I made teams are like, no,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: not they don't say no new friends.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: That's me.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: That's me saying that. Okay, but but you know it
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: kind of it kind of boils down to, like, you
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: gotta be vetted and get to know people before you
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: can go out and do what we like, getting our
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: real research team stuff and go out with us. Yeah,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: on my on my original team, j'all. That is what
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So well, I get it.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: When he got there, you know, Infiltrators, I had a
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: I had a little conversation with the guy and uh,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: you know, just basically asked him what unitsyn you know,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: what he was in, and this, that and the other,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: try to try to get a get a line on him,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: and you know, it could be legit, but it just
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: seemed too coincidental to me, you know. And what was
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: further interesting about it is at the time there was
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: a military intelligence unit that had just moved to that installation,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, it was just kind of interesting timing,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: not saying he was there to spy on us, but
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: it was interesting.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Oh he was totally there to spy on you for sure.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: That's uh yeah, well did you go with your with
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: your gut?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: I always tell everybody to go with your gut. If
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: something feels off, it's off. And that includes like when
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: you have people that are you know, new friends and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: people that kind of show up out of the blue
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and you know, be aware, be aware, and
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: yeah when it comes to the crypto field research, because
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: you know, that's why to me, it feels like that's
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: why we get there's such a stigma to like bigfooting
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: and things like that. It's like everybody, I want to say,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: like the media, whoever they want us to paint us
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: all is like a bunch of you know, country bumpkins. Okay,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: country buffcaus is a good term. And that's why that
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: guy they're like, all right, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: gonna send the guy. We gotta put on it. Get
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: your deal Earnhart shirt. Okay, put on your deal Earn
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: Heart shirt. Tuck it in with your PBR belt buckle
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: and put on your your mesh cap, you know, and
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: uh and go over there with your with your your
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: your race hill and praisedale hat okay and uh and yeah,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I mean I I totally listen. I grew up my
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: I love NASCAR, Easter race cars and stuff. I'd be like, okay, cool,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: but I'd look at them with the side I'd be like,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: what are you doing here? Okay? Yeah, who sent you?
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Because you know they The point of what I was
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: gonna say is like, you know, we are we're portrayed
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: as being that stereotype okay, and uh and it's kind
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: of like to keep us to keep it ongoing, like
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: as though like we're not smart and we're crazy and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: uh we must be you know, drinking natty lights on
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: stuff and we just see things, you know, out there.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: Uh and that's what the general public that that's what
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: they want the general public to think we do out
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: there and who we are and uh and it's kind
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: of yeah, and and so you know, maybe infiltrators are
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: sent in to you know, keep that going and to
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: stereotype iss a little more and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: And that's why they put those kind of people on
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: the news, you know, and you know what I mean.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: But but yeah, and to just to get intelligence and
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: to find out what we're doing, because these these things
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: are real, and I think the government already knows that
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: they're real. This is coming for me, this is my opinions.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: This is for entertainment purposes only tonight, y'all. But it's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: like they want they already know the exist they want
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: to know what we know about it and who who
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: are we going to tell about it? Okay, like who's
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: got the platforms, who's got the loudest mouth, who's going
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: to be out there, who's out there doing the boots
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: on the groundwork, and then going on a podcast and
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: talking about it? Oh oops, you know what I mean.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: One of one of my earlier incidents that I had happened.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Uh So, just just as an example, now, what i'm
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: fixing a related is one hundred percentury. It happened the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: way that I'm fixing it related. But I don't generally
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: share this publicly a whole lot because of the nature
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: of what it is. So once once I share it,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: you'll understand why. So I had some friends, frenemies, frenemies
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: who were coming up to the l b L and
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: they wanted to meet over there and do a little research.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: One weekend, I got we got tea right now? Huh
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: h's dishing the tea out, y'all.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: So ended up that weekend I had to work, so
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: I was at work and they called me while I
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: was at work, and I took their call and they
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: were like, Hey, we're at such and such location and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: we wanted to know if you would be free to
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: meet over there tonight and do something looking around. I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: was like yeah, I said, I don't get off work
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: until nine, nine thirty ten o'clock, but I'd be happy
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: to come over and meet you guys and you know,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: go looking around. So ended up, I got got off work,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I came home, I got my stuff, I left, I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: went over there, and I'm going to condense this a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: whole lot. So while I was over there, before I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: met up with them, I had something very weird cross
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: in front of the in front of my vehicle on
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: the road. At that time, I had no inclination to
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: anything about This did not fit any description of any
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: animal that I've ever heard of or seen before. It
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: was very bizarre. So I met up with them after that.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: We went and looked around to about one one thirty
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: in the morning, and I came home and I called
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: up one of my research buddies in New York and
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, man, I just had this experience
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: and I saw this and I don't know what it was.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: So I went through the description. I told him basically
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: what happened, what I saw, and he was very adamant
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: that I had seen a young or baby bigfoot, and
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think so. I've never seen
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: anything like this before. It was unnatural the way that
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: this thing moved. And he was like, dude, I'm telling
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: you you saw a baby bigfoot.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: The power of suggestion, so trying to make you think
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: you saw a bigfoot.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's just based off the description that
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: I gave him.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: So I was trying to put it in another direction.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: Then sorry, go ahead.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: So yeah, you're you're not going to guess where I'm
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: going to end up with this. So I told him
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: basically that I was gonna think on it and try to,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: you know, figure out what it was. So the next day,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: I get up that afternoon, I go to work, I
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: get off work, and I'm coming home, so I pull
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: in the road that I live on and I come
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: down and when I turned into the driveway, my headlights
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: sweep across the house next door, and they hit the
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: backyard behind the house next door, and then they straighten
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: up into my driveway. So as my headlights are sweeping over,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: there's a dude standing at the edge of the tree
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: line behind the house next door, and he's dressed in
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: black wall tactical gear to ski mask. Yeah, he was
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: covered head to toe. I could not tell who he was.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: All I could tell this he had on military gear,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: some kind of vest that I'm assuming, you know, as
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: when I saw him, you know, I just naturally assumed
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: that he was there, not not to be friends. So
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: at that time, being that I was going to and
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: from work, I wasn't caring at that that particular night.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: So my first response was come in the house, check
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: on everybody in the house, get my stuff, and go
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: back outside. Right, So I come in, check on everybody
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: in the house, I get my stuff, and I go
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: back outside. Whoever it was was gone.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: So which way was his gun pointed? What was he
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: pointing it at?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Oh, we have if he had one, it was, you know,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: like he was just standing there going down so so
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: now where mine was pointed at, it was a different story.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: I wasn't playing.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be either if that was outside my house.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So my next response was, Okay, did this person
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: come into my house? Because obviously he wasn't there to
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: visit the neighbor, and he was very I just got
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: the impression that he wanted me to be able to
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: see him and to let me know that he was there.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: So I come came back in the house and I
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: was looking around. Nothing was out of place, nothing was moved.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: And I went to the side door on that overlooks
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: the fenced n dogill and I grabbed the door knob
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: of the check and make sure it was locked. And
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: when I grabbed it, it was still locked. But when
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: I grabbed it, I guess I pulled it just right
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: and it just came wide open like it had been carted.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Oh so and I know that I had because that's
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: a big thing. That's a big thing here. Yeah, I
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: make sure that the doors are locked.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. I'm a I'm a lock checker.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Not for my protection, yeah, protection everybody outside.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm hyper vigilant when it comes
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: to the safety aspect of my life, and I always happened.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: I've been forced to be that way. Actually, And boy,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, somebody creep around the house like that
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: and they got on a ski mask. You didn't.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: You didn't.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: You didn't call the cops or anything.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just asking.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: For a friend.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know aund here.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: I know me too.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I know I'm the same unless I have to house,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: I have to just depends depends on. I go with
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: my gut.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: I got it, I gotta. I gotta saying. If you
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: break kids, you will break out.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's wild.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Like I said, the doors are not locked for my partiction,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: they're locked for everybody else's.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so that's odd.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say I'm a badass or anything
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: like that or whatever, but you know, you that's your home.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: You have a right to be that way.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: You break into my house, you're you're going to be
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: looking for an exit.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well this was in the this was while you
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: were in the midst of doing all the cryptid research.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: You're you're in a hot spot hub right there at the.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: L b L.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: And uh you you've experienced some things and uh yeah,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you think that it could
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: have been related to your knowledge.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: That I think it was related to that phone call
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: I had the night before where I was trying to
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: determine what it was that I saw. Mm hm oh man.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: I always feel like somebody's listening in. I mean, I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: was gonna I've seen that song with Michael Jackson song.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Always feel like somebody's watching me. It's actually not Michael
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Jackson as somebody else, but he's got a he's got
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: a little chorus in it. Right.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Well, you got the police every breath you take, every
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: step you.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Make, watching you. Oh, that's odd that there is that
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: the name of the band that sings that. What a coincidence.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: And that's just the one that pops to the top
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: top of my mind, off the top of off the bat.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, well how about wow, Okay that this is actually
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: kind of reminiscent. And I know you're you're not finished
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: your story, but I just want to mention this real quick,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about it. People have reported bigfoot sightnings
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: to let's just say it, the BFRO or something or
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: somebody that works with the BFRRO or the head of
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: it or something, and uh, they they do it like
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: in confidence. And this is what I've been told, uh
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: that there have been a few people, a couple of
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: people for sure, that have reported their bigfoot sightnings and
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: to them and the next thing, and they know they've
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: got black helicopters flying over their house.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: You I had it happen to me?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: You did?
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: Oh my?
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well you heard it here first, y'all. So think
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: you heard it here first. I don't know I'm hearing
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: it here first.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't normally share this because of the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: nature of what it is. And like I said, I'm
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: not here to throw anybody under the bus. But I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: mean if if if you're, if you're involved in that
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: kind of activity, then you kind of I deserve it
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: in my book, you know, And some may say that,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: you know, I deserved what happened or whatever. So and
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: and let this be a let this be some wisdom
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: along the way. So without calling names. So, I have
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: a friend and if you if you or yeah, a friend,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: I'll use that word. He's not a friend of me yet, man.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: So I have a friend who We're.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Gonna have a whole lot of people saying in this
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: episode tonight you know that, right people, everybody's gonna think
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: we're talking about them, y'all. I promise you, if you're,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: if you're, if you're in this chat right now, I'm
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: not talking about you. Okay.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: I saw that. I saw that.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Caleb. I'm not talking about you, Okay, definitely not talking
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: about you. If you're No, I'm not talking about you.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I have to say, the only
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: thing that I can.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: She agrees, Okay.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: The only thing that I can say is this, if
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: it fits strap that sucker on.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: You crazy.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't. I don't operate in the realm
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: of you know. I mean, look, the reality of it
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: is this. You know, nobody's perfect, you know, for whatever reason,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, some people deem it necessary to try
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: to elevate themselves and put themselves in the in the
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: shoes of the expert or wear that tag for whatever reason.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: And they want to be an authority on the subject
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: and they want to squash down everybody else that's around them,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: and that's all fine and daddy. If they want to
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: have a competitive a competitive level in this subject area,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: then they need to. I mean the reality of it
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: is this. You know, there's there's too many instances, and
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna hurt some feelings with what I'm fixing
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: to say, but I can't help it. I'm not here
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: to tickle your ear and tell you you know, I'm
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: not here to whisper sweet nothings and all that good stuff.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you the truth. And if you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: can't deal with the truth, then that's your problem, not mine,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: because I can deal with the truth. And the bottom
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: line is this. You know, you have these people that
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: go on these podcasts and it's you know, I mean,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: really look at it. Who is putting out I don't
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: vote the bear who's really putting out or who has
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: really put out anything new in the last ten years?
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by new?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Damn Mark?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: I mean about that? Well, in regard, let's just let's
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: take from the lb L for instance. Godly, this is
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: a can of worms right here, man. I mean, there's
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot. I mean, I don't know, maybe
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: we shouldn't talk about the LBO that sense that you
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: live up there, Okay, I don't know. I mean we're
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: putting out new stuff pretty often. I mean I bring
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: people on the show all the time talking about the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: research and stuff. What do you mean by new?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? That's my question.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm about to be triggered, and I'm just kidding,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: you're about to trigger me.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Well, well, here here's an example. Here's an example of
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: something new. So we had a conversation the other night,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: and during that kind ofnversation I mentioned about eye globe, yes,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: self illuminating eyeshine. You know, everybody has got these these
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: concepts of how that's possible, bioluminescence and all this good stuff,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: and that's it's all good stuff, but it's the same
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: stuff that everybody's been saying for the last ten years,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: and there's not anybody that has come out with any
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: plausible new hypothesis on that.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even I don't know what that stuff is.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how they do it,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, if we could get some real
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: good solid data on that, that would be amazing.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: I've you know, even even with like the we talk
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: about the interdimensional aspect of Bigfoot in these cryptids too,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: and like them going invisible and all that kind of stuff.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I really dive into it here, like trying
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: to figure out, like what is that is that? Are
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: they hitting the portals, they're going in out of portals?
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm even taking those deep dives on those
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: like invisibility, you know, quantum stealth materials and things like that,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: like just trying to look at it from every angle
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: because we're trying to figure out what the heck's going
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: on here. But if somebody had some real serious data,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: some like proof, some evidence like what's really going on here,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. So, yeah, you're you're one
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: hundred percent rate on all that, But.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and the reality of it is,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: we can't fault people for not having having the answers
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 2: because you know, or having new information. Yeah, well, let
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: me back up on that. I guess we can because
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: the reality of it is, all the answers are out there.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: We just have to be in the location willing to
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: find and look look and find them and accept them.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: The answers are.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: There, Yeah, answers there. I'm out there chasing the.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: Answers because I guess I look at it from the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: perspective of if I can do it, anybody can do it.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: If I can look look for and find the answers
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: to how these things are able to self eliminate their eyes.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: Then anybody can do that.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: And I didn't do any I didn't even have to
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: really look for it. It was just there. Yeah, But
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: it's something, it's something. It's something that nobody's ever mentioned,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: nobody's ever thought about, and they've never come up with that.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like looking at the whole subject of
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: the and I feel, I know you're I know you're
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: fixing the makeup face as soon as I say this, well,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: this whole subject of this so.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Far, Oh yeah, you know what you just say? Just
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: tell us what is I said on that?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: For ten years before I ever said anything, but supposedly
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: there were all these conversations that were taking place, and
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: this that and the other, and all this research that
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: was taking place. You know, I mean, what is that?
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is like you you had that
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: information and you were excuse me, that's my dog. So
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: you've had this information. You were kind of sitting on
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: it for a while. I can't find a dog treat, sorry,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: So you're sitting on it for a while, and then
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: you did you did you go out in the field
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: and use it, or did you tell people about it?
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: Or how did you get out there? Because it did
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: kind of spread like wildfire at some point. I heard
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: it on several different podcasts and that people talking about
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: doing that using the show far out in the field too.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, is it opening portals or whatever, but
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: it definitely attracts bigfoots and dog men from what I understand.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: Well, here's here's the thing with that, you know, and
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: this is the side of the story that you you
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: won't hear unless you hear from me. And that's why
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of mentioning it tonight, is because you know,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: when I when I came up with that, and I
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: was doing that research, you know, I had had come
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: up with the whole concept of how it worked, why
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: it worked, and some of the dangers of it, not
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: all of them, but a few of the inherent dangers
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: of using that method to call these things. And so
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: to answer the question of how it got out there?
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: Do you want the truth? I mean, do you think
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: that the public or the people out there in the
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: community are ready for the truth of how it got
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: out there?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe depends on what what the truth is. I guess yeah,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we all need the truth about stuff. Well,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: I just don't want to. I don't want to ruffle
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: a bunch of feathers. People come at me, but it's
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: all good. Well they were for entertainment purposes.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: Only they won't come at you. They'll come at me.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: But the opinions are all of my guests, not of me.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: So the the whole, the whole thing with it is is,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I had this research, I had this information,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: but I did not have a location to test it in.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: So because I did not have a location to test
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: it in, then I because I thought that I had
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: a twenty plus year friendship that I could trust in
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: in a researcher, that I kind of gave them a
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: little bit of the information to work with and asked
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: them would they be interested Because I knew that that
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: researcher was traveling to different locations, I asked them would
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: they be interested in testing it to see if it worked?
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: And so, long story short, during the course of them
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: doing that that information. You know, if you know the
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: old saying, three people can keep a secret if two
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: of them are dead, right, Oh dang? So, because that
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: person was around other people when they were using that method.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Other people kind of ran with it and were talking
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: about it amongst themselves and all that good stuff. So
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it was it was a poor judgment
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: on my part to think that I could trust somebody
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: with that, because the reality of it is this I had.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: I had in my mind formulated a direction to go
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: with that research, and basically that was all taken away
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: because the people involved thought that it was more important
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: to say, Hey, this is cool, this is something new,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: this is something that works. We want to share this publicly,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: whether I want to be involved in that or not.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, did you feel like you kind of got undermined
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: or something a little bit in it?
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: Well, at well, let's just say at at first, when
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: when everything started going on with that in that direction, yeah,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie, I was. I was pissed about it,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: you know, And I'm like, dude, I asked you to
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: keep that to yourself. And here you are, You're in
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma and you're using that method in front of thirty people.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, what's up?
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: How dangerous is that? Using a so far out in
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the field.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing about it. The thing about it. Now,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to get into a whole lot of
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: detail other than to tell people not to use that
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: method to call them it does work. But here are
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: the things that you need to keep in mind with that,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: and they are one and most importantly is just remove
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: bigfoot from the equation all together. When you take something
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: that is supposed to be holy and you misuse it
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: or you use it for a purpose other than what
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: it was intended for, what is that? I mean, you're you're,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: in essence, you're going against the I'm trying to think
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: of the best way to explain this where I get
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: my get my point across. So basically, in a in
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: a nutshell, you're you're you're you're using it for for
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 2: a purpose other than what God intended to be used.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: And because you're doing that, you were going against God.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: And I'll be the first to admit, you know, once,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: once I got deeper into the research of that subject
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: and I realized the magnitude of what that what using
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: that for that purpose was or could be, you know,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: I'll be the first to admit, you know, I I
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: had to repent for that because of the simple simple
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: fact that you know everything everything if you're and I'm
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 2: not here to push religion or any denomination or anything
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: like that. I'm just speaking from my beliefs in my
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: belief system. When when you use something that God created
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 2: in a way that it's not supposed to be used,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: especially in a in a in a negative inverted way,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: then you're jeopardizing a lot of things when you do that.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: And you know, because I put that information out there,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: I felt very responsible for doing that. So outside of
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: you know, outside of the whole scenario, you know, on
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: a personal level, I had to had to seek the
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: repenance for that. Now, part of that was you know,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: me trying to convey that, you know, the aspect of
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: that to the people involved and to try to get
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: them to listen to my viewpoint on it. And at
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: first they weren't very receptive and they continue to do
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: what they were doing, and it got to the point
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: where you know, I was like, look, you don't need
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: to do this or continue to do this, because you know,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: they really didn't pay attention until I started talking about
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: things like you're jeopardizing your soul and you're jeopardizing your
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: salvation by doing that. Now, now I'm not saying. I'm
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: not saying that using a so far for that purpose
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: does that, but it could because I mean, if you
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: look at it, you know, if you look at the
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: whole subject of the Nephilum, right, you had the fallen
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: angels that came down, this is nutshell. They wanted to
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 2: to pollute the bloodlines of the Earth. First it was
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: with humans, then it went to all the creations on
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: the earth. They basically wanted to take everything that God
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: created and make it into something that benefited them. So
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: in doing so, that put them into the fallen, into
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: the place that they are now. So I guess until
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: I got kind of serious about you know, hey, this
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: is not a good thing to do, and here's why.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: And there's other reasons why it's not a good good
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: thing to use that I haven't ever shared with anybody,
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: But they're minute in the grand scale of things, and
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just things that that that we are
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 2: not supposed to do. And so I guess in a nutshell,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: you know, I tried to warn people and I will
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: warn people that using a so far to call cryptids
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: is is not just dangerous, it's to you personally by
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: doing that. So used to be To answer that question, Scott,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: let me.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Let me read the question out loud so the audience
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: can hear. That's listening on podcasts. So, Mark, do you
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: think that cryptids are nephelin?
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: So to answer that question, I think it's it's kind
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: of uh important to realize the hierarchies that exist. So
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: when you when you look at the biblical narrative, you know,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: when the fallen angels came down and they looked upon
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: the daughters of men and they decided that they were
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: going to cohabitate with them. So basically what they did
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: was they tricked these women by presenting themselves as their husbands,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 2: and these women thought that they were actually interacting with
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: their husbands when they weren't. So they had offspring, their
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: offspring between a human and these fallen angels were what
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: are called the nephelim. So some at some point after that,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: it was determined that it wasn't enough for the fallen
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: angels to pollute the human bloodline. They wanted to pollute
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: every bloodline on the planet. It's diabolical, well just basically
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: to mock God's creation and to turn God's creation into
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: something other than what it was. Intended to be. So
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: they came along and they interacted and I'm choosing my
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: words carefully, So they interacted with all the bloodlines on
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: the earth. So in doing that, if you look at
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: the Biblical progression, those offspring were what are referred to
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: as the rough I aim. So it is possible that
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: some of these cryptids that we're encountering are descendants of
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: To say that their descendants of the Nephelm is accurate,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: to say that their descendants of the Raphaem is accurate,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: But it all depends on what angle you want to
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: look at it from. So and yes, cosmic they are so,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: And that's just my opinion. And that's from a lot
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 2: of research that I've done, and you know, interestingly, and
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: I'll talk about this this one encounter. So during the
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: time that I was so there, there was a time
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: where I was living in in in an area that
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: I like to all the hot zone, and that particular
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: area there was a lot of bigfoot activity in that area.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: So I was living in an apartment building and I
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: say apartment because what it was it was actually a
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: six unit at when it was built, it was originally
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: a six hotel that is down by the lake, and
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: they rented as a motel for many years, and they
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: would have fishermen and hunters that would come in and
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: rent those So they were having a problem with upkeep
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: and you know, getting rentals for that property. So they
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: decided what they were going to do is they were
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: going to convert them into apartments. So they converted that
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: building into three apartment buildings or apartments. And I was
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: living in one of those units at the time, and
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: at that time, I was working remotely. And now during
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: the day when I would be working, I would have
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: the curtain. Now imagine if you will this, This apartment
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: unit had a four foot by eight foot window in
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: the front of it, so great be a huge window.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: So I would pull the curtain back on it during
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: the day so the sunlight could come in and what
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: have you. So I'm sitting there doing my thing and
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: talking to customers on the phone and doing my thing.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: So one night I'm sitting there working and I looked
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: up and I could see that I had forgotten because
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: normally what I would do because I had this not
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: really a fear, but it was just a thing that
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to deal with. I didn't want to
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: be sitting there working and look up and there'd be
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: a big foot standing there. So I would pull the
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: curtain shut before it got dark. Well, that particular evening,
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't do that. So I'm sitting there and I'm
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: doing my thing, and I'm talking to a customer and
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: I look up. And for anybody that's ever done any
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: kind of computer work, they will understand the value of
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: looking away from the computer periodically off into a you know,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: like out of window or whatever, so that it doesn't
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: have such a dramatic effect on your eyes and your vision.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: He was looking at a fleer of thermal night vision. Yeah.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: So I was sitting there talking to this customer and
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: I look up and I can see it's already dark,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: and I can see an airplane flying across the sky
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: and I can see the light flashing and then it
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: passes out of you. So I'm sitting there and I'm
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: getting done with that customer, and I'm talking to a
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: new customer, and I'm sitting there and this wasn't like
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: two or three minutes later, and I look up and
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: I see that same light that I had seen earlier,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't moving, and it wasn't flashing. It was
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: just there sitting there in the sky, and I'm looking
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: at it and I'm like, hold on a minute, that
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: light's not flashing. And I'm like, at that time, I
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: had a uh, what do they call it? I think
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: they call it a torch airy, one of them lights
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: that it's on a stand. It's got a light bulb
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: at the top, and it's got like a it's like
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: a flower at the top, you know.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: So I had one of those in my living room
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: area and it was behind me, so I thought, oh, well,
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: it's just that light shining off the window, so I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: didn't pay any attention to it. So I'm sitting there
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: talking to this dude and I look back up and
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: I see just like a single flicker of movement in
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 2: that light, and I'm looking at it. At next thing
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 2: I see. I can see the side of this thing's face.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: I can see this side of his face, and I
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: can see that it's got gray, leathery skin, and I'm
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 2: like freaking out inside, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: and this thing is standing there looking at me, and
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, what am I gonna do? Because I mean,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no more than four foot away from this thing.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: If it wanted me, it could have busted that window.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: It got me. It's my computer was right up against
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: that window, and I'm like kind of freaking out inside,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: not really knowing what to do. So during that encounter,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: while that thing was there, it wasn't really mind speak
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: per se, but it was just an impression that I
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: got from this thing. And the first thing was that
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: it was sad. That's what I picked up, that it
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: was sad. And the next thing, you know, I was
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: kind of it was kind of weird the way that
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: I picked up that it was sad. It was like
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: I didn't under staying why it was sad. And I
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: looked down at the computer and I looked back up,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: and when I looked back up, it was gone. And
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: then a couple of seconds later, I hear the landlord's dog,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: which she was a big lab. She was going nuts.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: She did not like this thing being in her territory.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, and with an outside the dog was outside.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the dog was outside. And I was like sitting
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: there and I was like trying to figure out what
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: had just happened. What was this thing and why was
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: it sad? And I was like then it hit me.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: It couldn't get to you.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 3: No, it was sad.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: No, what was that?
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 3: What? What?
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Well, after I sat there for a few minutes and
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: thought about it, you know, it kind of the realization
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: came to me that it was sad because it wasn't
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: like me.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: So so in saying that, you know, at the end
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: of the day, you know, and I know I know
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: what I'm fixing to say is going to upset people.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, there's no other This is my interpretation
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: of it. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: all Bigfoot are evil. I'm not saying that they're all bad.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: The first thing that we that it's important to realize
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: is they cannot they did not ask to be here,
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: and they cannot help what they are. But at the
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: end of the day, according to the Bible, they are
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: an abomination and they are not because they are not
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: supposed to exist. And there's nothing that anybody, not me
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: or anybody can say that can change that. Now, I
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people wouldn't follow that, but if
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: you go back and you look at the whole Nephilum concept,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: you know, why did we have the Great de lose
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: is because they the Nephilum. We're not supposed to exist.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: They were not part of God's creation and because of that,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: it was it was necessary for them to be destroyed.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: And that's that was God's chosen method to do that.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: So you know, I always tell people, I always tell people,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 2: the biggest mystery about Bigfoot is not is not is
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: not that. It's not that that they they are here,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: not that they exist, it's that they understand completely what
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: they are and we're the ones that don't remember or
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 2: understand what we are.
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: That's indeed right there, that's you, guys, asked and he's
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: telling you, Okay, this is wild. I don't think we've
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: ever had this full conversation before.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 2: Mark. Well, there are things that you know, for whatever
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: reason I may not, I may not get into, but
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, and like I said, you know,
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say it is this or it
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: is that or whatever, but if it is a descendant
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: of the Nephlum of the Raphaeme, and you know, it
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: is what it is.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: If that's what they are, wow, that's what that's really
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: interesting though, Like I mean, you know, I always have
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: people asking like, do you think the bigfoots or Nephilim
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: and stuff, And I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: I don't have all that.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: I don't have any of the answers. Okay, but but
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: that you're put a lot of interesting information out there,
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: and according to the Bible, that's that's what it says, right,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: That's what I don't know.
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not people agree
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 3: with you in a chat too.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not advocating for their destruction
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. But I think that if, if, if,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: if we look at it through a hard, objective lens. Look,
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: I've had over twenty encounters with these things. I know
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: they're real. But I have to be objective about everything
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: in order to be able to to speak on any
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: of the things that I'm speaking.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've put a lot of research and bond into it, that's.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: For sure, because to do otherwise is a disservice to
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 2: me and to anybody I talked to about it.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so to circle back around to the show
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: far okay, not to ruffle your feathers now or to
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: do whatever I'm just saying like it's a that's a
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 1: very spiritual tool, very spiritual, and what it's doing, it's
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: it's a multifaceted, you know, type of a tool. Okay,
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: it's got a lot of different purposes to it, a
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of different things that it can do.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: And and my concern was always my main concern because
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know a whole lot about the show far
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know it. I didn't know anything about it really,
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: but it was just the whole tones, the sound frequency,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: and how it attracts cryptids like dog went in Bigfoot.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 1: But I don't think it's just that. I think they're
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: just attracting him. I think it's opening a portal. Well,
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: and that concerns me.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing with that. Now I'll be I'll
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: be the first two men. And now I've not talked
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: about this a whole lot. I don't think I've ever
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 2: really talked about this publicly, but you know, other people
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: who shall remain nameless at this point have talked about it,
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, have mentioned this particular incident. So h
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: And for the record, I think it's important that that
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 2: people realize and understand that, you know, when you hear
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 2: this person talk about the soho far, And I'm not
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 2: trying to I'm not trying to take anything away from anybody,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to negate the time and the
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: effort that they put into it in any way. But
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 2: what I what I what I do believe in is
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 2: first and foremost being honest and being truthful above anything else.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: So in an effort to promote that, I asked that
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 2: individual not to bring my name up when they talk
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: about that subject because at this point, and and to
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 2: be honest, once again, I've heard a lot of stuff
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: said that it's just not true. And you know, with
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 2: regards to oh well, me and me and Mark had
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: all these LinkedIn conversations and this, that and the other.
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 2: You know, one or two conversations a year is not
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: a multitude of conversations about that particular subject. I sat
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: on that subject for ten years before I ever brought
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 2: it up to them, you know. So where these are
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 2: conversations happened, I don't know, But it wasn't with me,
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: you know. And so but nonetheless, nonetheless, like I said,
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to take anything away from them. You know,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: they put, they put time into it and and and
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 2: did do what I asked them to in some respects
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: did other things that I asked them not to do,
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: which I understand, and I've tried not to be judgmental
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: about that at this point, but you know it, it
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't change the fact that it that it happened the
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: way that it did, and that, you know, because of
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: the way that things went down with that, I've just
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: kind of asked that i'd not be mentioned because I
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: don't want to be associated with anything that's not truthful,
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: and not saying that what they're saying is not truthful
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: other than the obvious things that I mentioned before, like
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: the conversations and the information that was you know, you know,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: it's been presented that it was like a meeting of
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: the minds, and there was no meeting of the minds.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: So in a nutshell, what it was was I gave
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: that person a little bit of information. I did not
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: tell them everything, asked them what they'd like to be involved,
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: and they kind of took it and went their own
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: direction with it. And whether the instances of what they're
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: saying happened the way that they're saying that it happened,
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was not there, but in saying that,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: there was an incident that took place, and the circle
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: back around to it. Why is my hair turned red?
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: You got to catch on fire?
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: No, I was thinking about I was thinking about that
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 2: press secretary. That's you can circle back around?
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: Oh god, so anyways circle back.
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: So anyways, there there was the uh, there was an
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: incident where we went to this location, and I was
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: totally unaware that that individual had to show far with them.
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 2: I did not know they had it. I did not
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 2: know that they were going to use it. Yeah, so
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: we pulled into this location and we got there, and
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: and it was a few minutes after we got there.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: I kind of stayed over near my truck and I
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: could hear them talking over by the other vehicle. Well,
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 2: next thing I hear, I hear the sho far and
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 2: then right after it. The only way I can describe
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: this is you want to talk about a glitch in
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: the matrix. I sat there and I stood there and
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 2: watched everything shift wow visually. And there was the gentleman
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: that was writing with me in my vehicle was looking
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: at a tower an observation of basically an old fire
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: tower through a thermal when this happened. And they thought
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: that when it happened that it was a glitch in
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 2: the thermal. They saw it too. Oh. I was like, no,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 2: that was not a glitch. It was a it was
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: a actual glitch in time. Wow, and everything every space time,
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: everything everything shifted.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: The timeline shifted or something that sounds crazy.
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know, it's like it's not just.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: A portal opening, it's a complete shift. It's like you're jumping.
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that's what it was. All
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 2: I know is after it happened, I just got the
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: feeling that there was there. There was there was a
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: portal opening that took place, and I didn't want to
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: be there. I told the guy that was riving me,
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 2: I don't care. You can keep driving me if you
• 2:10:51
  Speaker 2: want to, but I'm leaving. I don't want to be here.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 2: I was ready to go. I didn't want to be
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: around it, you know, mhm. First off, I didn't know
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: that they even had it, and you know, they didn't
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 2: even see it when it happened. They didn't see that
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: shift in time. And it's just like everything just did
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 2: this number.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 1: Whoa wow.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: So I was visually seeing everything.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: Glitch wow, actually, glitch.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: Weird.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: That is that's wild man. You have really told some
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: told me some stuff tonight that I've not heard before.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: And I am super gosh, thank you so much for
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: being so candid about all this. This is we need
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: to hear these things, especially me. You been out in
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: the woods and stuff, and I mean I've never been.
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 1: That's why I said it's important to be careful. They
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: know who you're going out in the woods with and
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: what they got with them and what they're planning to do.
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: I actually typed up operational orders for the team, and
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: so we have I'm not saying we're super strict and
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 1: we go by them one hundred percent all the time,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: but there's a guide. There's guidelines there and I'm going
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: to add in the next of order, no show far y'all,
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 1: because that's I mean, that just sounds really that just
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: sounds kind of dangerous to me.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: The whole thing with it is, you know, not only
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 2: is it is it dangerous from from you know, just
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: a use perspective. You know, we don't really uh so
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: to say that we don't understand what when when these
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: things are answering the call that we don't. Let's let's
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: just put it like this. Some people, some people out
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: there don't understand why they are answering that call. They
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: have speculated why they are answering the call, but they
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 2: incorrect in some ways. So you don't know. It's just
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: like anything. If you if you see a dog walking
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: down the road and you whistle at it and you
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 2: try to get it to come over, you don't know
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: if that dog is gonna be friendly or whether he's
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: gonna bite you when you when he gets there.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 2: So you know, you don't know whether you're you're calling
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: these things to to just respond and show up, or
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 2: whether you call them, hey, come, you know it's.
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 1: A meeting call. Boy, wouldn't that be.
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: Something that that would be terrible?
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: Cally, Yeah, that would be bad. So because you really
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: So there's a there's a lot of implications with it
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: that are unknowns that make it a very very dangerous
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: proposition to use one of those so far as to
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 2: call them. And that's just outside of the whole perspective
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 2: of you know, it being going against God's intended to
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 2: use for that instrument. Mm hm. Wow.
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: We've we've touched on the so far before, but you've
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: never told us tell me this before here and uh
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: and so very very important information. I know a lot
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: of people in the chat even are familiar with it
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: and hearing the stories about them and stuff and seeing
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: them on I've I've seen I've heard about them, you know,
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: people using them on you know, other people's podcasts and stuff. Yeah,
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: but it's just something that nobody, nobody that I've ever
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: gone out in and field has ever had one. We've
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: never we've never done that. That would be something that
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: would be like experimental, I guess, you know, yeah, nobody's
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: nobody's use it. But I think the people, maybe I
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: would assume that a lot of the guys on my
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: teams would kind I know the implications of like what
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 1: that is and like what would happen maybe, but I
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 1: don't know now they will because I'll talk about it
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: with them.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 2: I need to. Well, Also, I just want to mention,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 2: you know, some people might say, oh, well, he's just
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 2: but her because he's not involved and blah blah blah,
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: you know or whatever. Trust me, you know, I do
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: not care about limelight. I don't care about trying to
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: be somebody in this field. The only thing I care
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: about is the truth.
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: And why I like you coming on the show.
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, that's what matters
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: to me the most. And something that everybody needs to
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: understand is that there are people out there who do
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: not like the truth, even though they might say that
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: they do.
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: Dang, we circled it around again.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 2: You want me to talk about some more folks.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: Back, Absolutely not. It's getting late. I only got like
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: five hours of sleep this morning. I say that I
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: was one of the last ones go to sleep last night.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: Early, it was actually early this morning out there in
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: the woods. I see it up because I didn't want
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't want Drewskie to stay it by himself. I
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: felt bad, so I stayed up. We had to have
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: somebody garden the garden. Everybody.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I was just joking, you know, like I said,
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not here to I'm not.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: Just kidding.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to shut anybody
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: down or destroy anybody or steal anybody's thunder That's what
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: I want. Go for it, you know.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: Don't come at us, y'all. How many I think I
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 1: have to say that every time you call on it.
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all don't come at.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: Us well, you know, I mean, I don't even know
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: who y'all are.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying I can appreciate that, you know,
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: I can appreciate it. We all just we do want
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 1: the truth, and uh, and it is sometimes it's it's tough.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: You know a lot of people. Sometimes people take our
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: ideas or things we've got and they kind of run
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: with it, you know, and they take it and they
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 1: make it theirs and kind of distorted a little bit,
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: and some of that kind of stuff that happens to me. Okay,
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: but see the things I don't have that kind of
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: like the show far information like that's it's kind of
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: a that's kind of wild. It's kind of a big
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 1: deal too, because that's something that could shift our reality.
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 1: Like you said, like you watched it, the reality right
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: before your eyes.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing about it is, you know, if
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 2: it opened a portal during that particular instance, you know,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: there was no effort on that individual's part made to
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 2: close it because I'm assuming they don't know how to
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: close it if they opened one, And you know that's problematic,
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: you know, so it it explains me. I'm trying to
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: think of the best way to put this without breaking trust,
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 2: because if you don't have if you don't have honesty
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 2: and integrity and trust, then what do you have. So
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: I will just say that there have been some things
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: that have been encountered that do not fit the typical
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot Dog band description in the LBL, and I don't
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: know if it's the result of that or not leaving
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 2: portals unclosed.
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is real. This is real talk. That's
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: real talk. That's something that I I have to wonder sometimes,
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I talk a lot about like ritualistics, So
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's the difference. This is a this is
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: a kind of a weird question, but is there a
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: difference between like people going in there and doing like
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 1: Satanic rituals and stuff? As I know, it's different, but
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: like the show far like they're opening portals too, you
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, I know that's a terrible
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: comparison to make, but it's kind of like, I mean,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not any worse or better than that, right,
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know using that, especially in the
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: if you don't know what you're.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 2: Doing with it, it's if you're using it for that purpose. Now,
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that would if
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 2: they would be equal, Yeah, I don't know, because I mean.
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: Just with the result, you know what I mean, like
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: the result of like having a portal that's like opened
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: or and like conjuring something that could be potentially disastrous
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: you know, for the general public. I mean, my goodness,
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: you live not too far from there. You know that
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: that affects you and your family. If you got you
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: got dark entities running through you know, the National Park
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: over there, and it's right there at your home. You
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: know that the cryptids and the animals or they don't know,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: they don't have boundaries, like if you know, they don't
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: know not across that that line of like the state
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: park or the National Park into your private area right there, yea,
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: into your yard.
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I think, and this is just my opinion. You
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: know that if if you knowingly or unknowingly are opening
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: portals and not closing them, yeah, that you're doing something
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: that could be of hazard to someone else or yourself
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: because you don't know what's coming through that portal. There
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: may not be anything, but what if something decides to
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: come through that m h.
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. Yeah, there's a lot of weird stuff, a
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: lot of weird stuff creeping around that that will be
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: all out there, and uh.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, show talk about we didn't even talk about the people.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk about the weird weird people run around stuff.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 1: Uh, there's no telling what I was going on out there, man,
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: and what all's been been conjured and you know, kind
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: of led through portals and stuff. So I do know
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 1: that I was talking to my buddy Harley last night
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 1: or today, a senior last night or today, and uh,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 1: he was telling me, He's like, I've you know that place.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: He said he felt that it was evil out there
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: at the l b L. He said that was what
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 1: he picked up on out there. He's like he didn't
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: even want to be there once he got up there.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 1: He was like, this just it didn't feel good.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: Well there, there are there are places that that have
• 2:21:45
  Speaker 2: that feel. But I think overall it's not a not
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: an evil place, but there are places that are well.
• 2:21:58
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of the same, right like anywhere you
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: go to because there can be times where you know,
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 1: in the research areas that I go to, I mean
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: just anywhere in everyday life. You know, you just go
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 1: somewhere and you know that place just feels evil. It
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: just feels off like corpswood Man or that place I
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 1: talk about in North Georgia. It's horrible. It's a horrible feeling.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: When you go there. During the daytime, it's not so bad,
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: but at nighttime it's just it's an icky feeling. It's
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 1: really icky, and it's just not it's not it's not
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: swear you want to be certainly don't want to get
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 1: left there by yourself. I will not be demon bait. Okay,
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: I mean I've been. I'm sure I've been. I don't know,
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I'll be big foot bait. But I'm not
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: going to be bait at corpswood manor ever. I don't care.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: I would never do that.
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:22:50
  Speaker 1: But so yeah, But because my point was like it's
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: you know everywhere. You know, you can go one one
• 2:22:56
  Speaker 1: place and it feels okay, the next place just feels
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: like crap, you know, evil feeling. It's not just the
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: l BO, but.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 2: Is it is.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: It makes you wonder about the land and like the
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: history behind the land, like what's been done there is
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: that ritualistic you know what is the true history. See
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: all these all these subjects kind of meld together, you
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: know that I talk about everything just has kind of
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 1: connected and all melts together with our hidden history is
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 1: a big part of the missing puzzle too, Like what
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: truly has happened? What truly has been on these lands
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 1: that are so haunted and have cryptids there? What's the
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: true what's the truth behind it? It's not just all
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: surface level here, We've got there's layers to it.
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and and everything, uh, every cause has some
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: kind of effect mm hm for sure.
• 2:23:58
  Speaker 1: True, Yeah, there's always cause and effect. Yes, Oh, y'all.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I have not been keeping up with
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 1: all the comments for the past few minutes. I get
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 1: so I just get enthralled to get into the conversation.
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: I'm listening and we've got a lot of great a
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: lot of great comments tonight. And man, we've had a great,
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: great chat going on tonight. And so I think, thank
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 1: you for being here, Mark, and for being so candid. Gosh,
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 1: you've been really super candid every time you come on here,
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 1: and I really appreciate that.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: And well, one thing about it is, I'll be the
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: first to admit that I make no claims to being
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: anything other than myself. I don't claim to be an
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: expert on anything. My opinions are just that opinion. I'm
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: prone to be wrong and if I'm if I'm wrong
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: about something, I'm I'm I'm big enough to admit that
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: I was wrong and to change my perspective. Me too,
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: so you know, And I just want to make it
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: once again clear, I'm not trying to throw anybody under
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: the bus, but I think that it's it's important that
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 2: people know the backstory on some of these things, and
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: you know, because you know it, you know I'm not.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm trying to trying to say is
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get people to say, oh, well,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 2: you know, we should only listen to what Mark has
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: to say about this and whatever. No, that's not what
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. I'm just saying we need to we need
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: to test the information that's being released because and that
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: goes whether it's from you know, people releasing show far
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: information or whatever. You know, if you encounter information, if
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: you don't, if you don't make an effort to test it,
• 2:26:18
  Speaker 2: then you have no way to validate it. And that's
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: where I think a lot of people fail is because
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: first off, they're not even trying to test the information.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: They're just taking it as it is and saying, you know,
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: this is the gospel truth and this is the way
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 2: it happened. And you know, maybe that is not the case. Yeah,
• 2:26:52
  Speaker 2: but if you don't try to test it and validate it,
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: then you know where you're at.
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's a that's a very
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: good point.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: Mark.
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 1: And I know you've done You've done plenty of tests
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: in yourself. And uh, I am just like you, Like
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: I am super open stuff and uh I have literally
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: changed my mind about stuff live on air for everybody
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: to see. Okay, when I'm presented with some evidence, like
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 1: and I keep such an open mind. My mind is
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: kind of too open sometimes I think, like I think
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 1: was so far outside the box sometimes that it just
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: it's you know, I guess that's a good thing. I mean,
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: we got to have some people in this world that
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: does that do that, I guess, you know, Yeah, I
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 1: think I just try to see all the different possibilities
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: to things, and now look at before something I do something,
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: I think of all the different outcomes that can happen,
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: all the different timelines that that's going to create, and
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: which timeline do I want to go down? So every
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: decision we make puts this on another timeline basically, and uh,
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 1: and we have free will, We're able to do whatever.
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 1: Whatever we choose to do, we can do it. But
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 1: I'm striving for like my highest timeline all the time
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: and what's best for me and everybody involved. That's that's
• 2:28:08
  Speaker 1: why I look at it. And and so you know,
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: the truth is very important, no matter how bad it works,
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 1: and no matter how hard it is to say, the
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 1: truth is the ultimate goal here. And that's what my
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: channel's about. That's what the disclosure movements about as well.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: It's like put everything out there, let's figure out what
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 1: the truth is, and let's go from there. And sometimes
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 1: it's a hard truth.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, most definitely. Yeah, But you know, I just
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, being being truthful and being an honest
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: person sometimes it's uh, kind of a not very popular
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 2: late environment.
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: It's lonely, and these truth movements over here, it's kind
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: of like it lonely.
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 2: Because you know the bottom line is, you know, when
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: when you have people that that you talk about that
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: may or may not be truthful, you know, they automatically
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: take that as a as an attack, and well, I
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 2: just want to make I'm not trying to attack anybody.
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to share the truth. Yeah, and like
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: I said earlier, if it fits strap, that's the girl.
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I love your brutal honesty. I appreciate it.
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: Trust me, there's some people that don't.
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 3: Actually, you know what you.
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: Told me that when the first time I ever met you,
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: I talked to you and you're and you told me
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 1: that You're like, yeah, you know everybody likes my min.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: I forgot how you said. He said it, just like,
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: however you just said it. I was like, it's brutally honest. Okay.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes that's why.
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I think it's cool, man, That's
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: why I like you, Mark. I know, I know, and
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And it's gonna stir up controversy. We're
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: gonna have people that get upset probably and they're the
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 1: more the more people that share this video out, the better.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 3: Y'all.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, and please please subscribe and like the video
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: y'all and uh share it out cheered out everybody. Please.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: We need the truth needs to be out there and
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 1: and ye know we we didn't neither Mark nor I.
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: We don't mean anything, you know, uh like trying to
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 1: hurt hi most feelings or you know, there's there's no
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 1: harm mint by this talk tonight that we've had.
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 3: This is a talk.
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: It needs to be said, okay, because whatever comes out
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: of our mouths probably needs to be said.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, well, you know, it's like, you know,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, when I when I was joking around and
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: asking if you want me to talk about some other people,
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: I mean no, I mean, don't stop.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding.
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 2: Please don't. I mean, I don't know. It's just it's
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: just kind of bizarre because there's it's like some people
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: just I don't know, it's like they live in some
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 2: kind of fantasy land where you ever played that game
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 2: when you're a kid, Fantasy Land?
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, I did, with the candy Canes and all that.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite games when I was
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: a kid. It was a board game. If you guys
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 1: aren't familiar with that, I think from what I can recall,
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking of candy Land. I think is that
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Yeah, okay, yeah, what's up? It's we
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: all were living in our own reality, you know. And
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 1: but if but if, if, if everybody wants true disclosure,
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 1: true truth. I think I think that Mark put a
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: lot of this out on the table tonight.
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: Y'all.
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: This is some Mark you haven't You've never talked about
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: this stuff so candidly on my show before when it
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: comes to like so far stuff and you know, a
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of these things. And I just
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. And so if youbody who's ever wondering, because
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 1: we all hear about it and stuff, and so this
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: is you heard it from the source tonight, everybody. That's
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Okay, heard from Like.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm not trying to try to trying to
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 2: be somebody, you know. I just I sat here and
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: I told everybody that I actually had to get secre
• 2:32:42
  Speaker 2: repentance for even sharing that. So you know, I'm not
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make money off of it in
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: any way. You know, I'm I'm out here trying to
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: promote the truth and to get people to to that
• 2:32:58
  Speaker 2: may be uh tempted to use that method to consider
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 2: not doing so because of not just the the physical
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: but the spiritual implications of it. So anyhow.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well now we know. The more you know,
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I got that's shooting star. The more you
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 1: know guys, and uh yeah, thank you Mark so much
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: for being here tonight.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: You always keep it spicy. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still going off pure adrenaline from the
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: dog Man investigation and stuff.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: So sweet till your phone starts ringing.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: I don't answer my phone. Anybody who calls me, he
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: knows I don't answer. Okay, Well, I mean i'll answer
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 1: some people. I got your number of my phone. I
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: feel like it's talking. I'll answer it, okay, but I
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: keep my keep my finger off, I keep my surprise.
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 2: Mine has it sort of ringing.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be all I get. Or spam calls. What
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 1: about y'all? Everybody gets spam calls.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: I get.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: Nobody gives me spam calls, is me. I don't know
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: why it's I get a lot of Spanish every time
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 1: I look at my phone. It's like possible spam. Yeah yeah,
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: somebody somebody put my number in some kind of something,
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, so I get spam calls all the time.
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: I won't change my number. I don't answer it anyways.
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: But anyways, oh my gosh, yeah, no nobody cared. People
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: people know not to hit me up about all this stuff.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying they.
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: Know not hit me up.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 3: They know it.
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I don't even know who they are, y'all.
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 1: I was just kidding. I'm I'm obviously tired. It has
• 2:34:44
  Speaker 1: been a long weekend and it's only Saturday night. But yeah,
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to all my
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: fellows that are out there in the woods right now,
• 2:34:54
  Speaker 1: chasing dog Man and Bifoot and y'all know who you are.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: I hope everybody gets home safe tomorrow and whenever y'all
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 1: get out of there, I hope everybody gets something safe.
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 1: And uh, and Mark, thanks again for being here. Where
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: can everybody find you? I know you got your you
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 1: got a YouTube channel, and you got a website.
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on. I'm on YouTube and I've got my
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 2: website Cryptonville dot com. You know, I know, I keep
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 2: saying that I'm gonna update my content, but you know,
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 2: spare with me.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 1: Take your time. You're busy.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah I am, I am that so but yeah, thanks
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: for having me on again, and.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: Uh, anytime man, I know this is y'all.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 3: I got it.
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 1: Full disclosure. I put this this show together like super
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: last minute, Okay. I did because I didn't know if
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 1: I was going to be back or not. Okay. And
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: I was messaging with Mark. I was like, on the
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 1: show tonight, please please come home with me. Let's let's
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: just talk about whatever, okay.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 2: And and I'm the one that pick and you did,
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 2: and Mark I wasn't.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: He didn't have to tell everybody that, but you did.
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: And I and I and I thank you for that.
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: And well, we didn't know where it was gonna go tonight, y'all.
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: It was not pre planned. Was wondering.
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 2: I just felt like there were some things that and
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 2: and there are some other things, you know, for the
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 2: future that should be addressed as well. And you know,
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: once again, I'm not I'm not trying to throw anybody
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: into the bus with this stuff. I'm just I'm just
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 2: trying to promote honesty. I guess it's probably the honesty.
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: How about that, y'all?
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 2: Because because there you know, I mean, so, so, let
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 2: me ask you a question, Jessica. Okay, if as an example,
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: let's say me, you Drew. I'm trying to think of
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: somebody else. Okay, uh Robbie, Uh yeah, I'm trying to
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 2: think of somebody else. Okay, Harley, let's just pull some
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 2: random names out there.
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 1: I've been in the field with all of them.
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 2: Okay. So let's say we all go to the field. Okay,
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 2: we're out there, we have an experience, right, why would
• 2:37:43
  Speaker 2: you why would you be inclined to come back? And
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 2: when you relate the story to exclude one or more
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 2: of those people from that story?
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I know, I'm.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: Pretty you know, it's so weird because I just had
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 1: this conversation about something else, Like there's a very similar situation.
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: That's weird. We're not gonna talk about this on air.
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's there's really no reason to do that unless,
• 2:38:16
  Speaker 1: like you know, well, I in my experience, I know
• 2:38:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about me behind my back
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, and they don't want
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: to be associated. They want people to know they're associated
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: with me and stuff, you know, And and I don't
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: think it's now, but back and back. You know, there's
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: a little while people were like that because I was
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: a crazy I was a crazy one because somebody said
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: I was so it's that. So it's the same thing.
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 1: It's Sam Sam scenario, different day, okay. And and that's
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 1: just how people are. It's weird. It's so weird, isn't it.
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: I've been there. I've been there. Mark. I feel you.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're going through, but I know it.
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: I've been there.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 2: It's just, you know, it's just kind of a weird
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 2: thing that I've encountered.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: I bet people in the audience have been through that too,
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: doubt it. That's right, Yeah, it is.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 3: It is what it is. Joe says.
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: The truth scares many. Yeah, that's right.
• 2:39:16
  Speaker 2: I know. You know.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm always telling the audience like and on
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: my Hunt Club, especially if you guys want to become
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: a member of my Hunt Club, you can't. I do
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: like I talk.
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 2: I give talks like this.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 1: I just sit around, I turned the camera and I
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 1: start talking and stuff and and I talk about that.
• 2:39:31
  Speaker 1: And it's so important. Something that I really, I really
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: focus on, is like us being our authentic selves and
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 1: living in our truth and standing in our truth. I mean,
• 2:39:41
  Speaker 1: I I don't know if I could even lie. I mean,
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: it'd be so hard for me to lie about something
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 1: I I just I don't know. It's like I'm allergic
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: to it, to lies and stuff like I don't. I
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: don't like that and uh and and I may I
• 2:39:55
  Speaker 1: may get something wrong occasionally, but it's not because I
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: meant meant to you know what I mean? Like, I know,
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: I live my truth as I live my truth as
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 1: I know it. Okay, does that make sense? Like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I just it's so important just for us
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  Speaker 1: to be ourselves and and and not not try to
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: be something we're not, okay, And that just it circles
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 1: back around, circle around to the truth. And and I
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 1: stand in my truth and I live in my truth,
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 1: and so do you. And that's why I respect you
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 1: and I appreciate you, okay, Mark, And yeah, so yeah,
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: we stand on business, y'all. We keep it anted, we
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 1: keep it a we keep it one hunt. We stand
• 2:40:39
  Speaker 1: on business over here. So if y'all want to y'all
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: want to stand on business, y'all, come over to the
• 2:40:45
  Speaker 1: Crypti Hunter's channel. Oh my gosh, Yeah, well this is
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 1: this has been a fun show, y'all. I know it's
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 1: getting late, and I hope everybody enjoyed this tonight. And yeah,
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 1: you'll share it out, y'all. S this out and anybody
• 2:41:00
  Speaker 1: can use to hear the truth.
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 2: Oh man, if they want more.
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  Speaker 1: Well next time I we will do another last minute
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 1: show and I have markin and that's a funny day Mark, like,
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 1: and we never know, like there's no like pre planning this,
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 1: so like, you know, nobody we didn't have We didn't
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: have any trolls in the chat. It was so fascinating.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm just kidding. All right, Oh god,
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 1: I love I love doing this, y'all. If y'all can't tell,
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: this is so fun. Okay, Well everybody, I hope everybody
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 1: enjoyed this, and everybody please come back and see me.
• 2:41:39
  Speaker 1: I will be back on Monday. I do have Bryce
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 1: coming on the show with Esoteric and Lena. We're gonna
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: be talking about Haunted Late Lanear and all those civilizations
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: that are lost under the lakes across America. And it's
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 1: going to be so good, y'all. It's going to be
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 1: so good, and so please come back at one o'clock
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  Speaker 1: pm Eastern twelve Central on Monday. Okay, and uh yes,
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get me some sleep.
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  Speaker 3: Mark.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a god it's been a long couple of days,
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 1: and uh, nonetheless, I made it back and I'm so
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 1: glad we got to do a show. Yeah, any last words, Mark,
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  Speaker 1: before we go.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't be truthful with others, then you definitely
• 2:42:24
  Speaker 2: can't be truthful to yourself and there and they're both
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: equally as bad.
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, y'all. We stand stand on business, y'all,
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 1: and everybody please be safe out there, have a wonderful night,
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 1: and uh come back and see me on Monday. Keep
• 2:42:46
  Speaker 1: your head on swivel, y'all, and and stand in your
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 1: truth no matter what, speak your truth even if your
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 1: voice shakes, right Mark, Oh yeah, yeah, your voice didn't
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 1: shake though. Oh here's a picture I was gonna show.
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to show this picture because I look
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: horrible in this picture, been rainy, But this was This
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: was us last night.
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  Speaker 2: That's me.
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 1: That's me even no megap on. Yeah, it's just quick.
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: There's Drew Ski and Harley and me. I had a
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: terrible picture of me, but anyways, the only picture I
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 1: had of us from last night. So but anyways, that
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: was us and a dog man investigation. All right, y'all,
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 1: everybody have a great night, and like I said, speak
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 1: your truth and and i'll see y'all back on Monday.
• 2:43:25
  Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, Bye, y'all, have a good night.
• 2:44:00
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  Speaker 2: So, it's
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  Speaker 4: It's