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- 0:00Hey everybody, this is Todd. And just a quick note before
- 0:03this episode, Riley and I are out vacationing and so we wanted
- 0:08to do a podcast reissue, as it were.
- 0:12And so we're going back to Season 1, Episode 4, Arcade Fire
- 0:18and their album Funeral. And this was one of our bigger
- 0:22surprises from Season 1. One of the reasons that we enjoy
- 0:27doing this podcast and and sharing music with everybody.
- 0:31So I hope you enjoy this reissue of an episode and then come back
- 0:36next time and we'll pick back up with.
- 0:39Lauryn Hill. And the MIS education of Lauryn
- 0:42Hill. Until next time, we'll see you
- 0:44around. Welcome to Barbara Cuts, Beats
- 0:55and barbs. We're a father to daughter music
- 0:57podcast that slices into some of the greatest albums, one cut at
- 1:00a time. With no industry ties or formal
- 1:03training, just a shared love of music, we explore albums across
- 1:07genres, rating favorites and skips while digging into what
- 1:10makes each one iconic. I bring the beats.
- 1:14And I bring the bars and together we deliver real talk
- 1:16and fresh takes from both sides of the sound.
- 1:19Hey everyone, I'm Riley. Hey and I'm Todd and welcome to
- 1:22Barber Cuts. This week we are talking about
- 1:25Arcade Fire and their album Funeral from 2004.
- 1:32So which way are we starting this week?
- 1:36Do we want to keep going with our least favorites 1st to get
- 1:40the bad news out of the way? At least 4 this one I want to OK
- 1:46'cause very spoiler. Very few bad things on this
- 1:50album for me, which the more you know me, the more this does not
- 1:55surprise you. No.
- 1:57This is my music taste. I told yeah, I told Mommy.
- 2:03I was like, I can't wait to talk to Riley about this album.
- 2:07So I'll, I'll kick off the least favorite.
- 2:10So this was difficult. And so like my least favorite
- 2:162/1 was Haiti. And then I'm like, I, I, I even
- 2:23wrote down, I get it. I know it's a song about her
- 2:26parents playing Haiti and escaping A ruthless dictator,
- 2:31but I didn't realize that until after it.
- 2:34But as I listened, it's just one that always just kind of melted
- 2:38away for me. And if you've listened to the
- 2:42album, I think that makes sense because there were and you and I
- 2:47talk about there were no surprises in this song.
- 2:50It was, it started it song. It's a beautiful song.
- 2:54I'm out. I like the song, but it just
- 2:57kind of melted away. And the second one for me,
- 3:01neighborhood #4 it's pretty much the same way.
- 3:05I, it's like I liked it, but again, it just, it just kind of
- 3:08melted away for me. So what about you?
- 3:14So my least favorite switch were also difficult 'cause I wouldn't
- 3:18say they were even ones that I dislike, I still enjoyed them
- 3:22listening to them. Same.
- 3:23We're probably Ani sans Lumiere, the French one can't pronounce.
- 3:33It even though that's Spanish. That's really embarrassing.
- 3:37But we also have those two random listeners from Argentina
- 3:42and. And Guatemala, but you didn't
- 3:45even pick up on it. Nope.
- 3:48Anyway, we, we, we. Anyway, I don't know, I just
- 3:53didn't enjoy it that much. Same with in the back Seat.
- 3:57Both of those just kind of fell away from me, kind of like you
- 4:00were talking about. I'm also probably unfairly going
- 4:05to be partial towards male singers when there's a band that
- 4:10has male and female singers, and those were two songs that kind
- 4:15of highlighted the female singer.
- 4:17I know Haiti does too a little bit, but these two were some
- 4:21that, like it went back and forth between male and female
- 4:24and that just didn't work so well for me.
- 4:29Yeah, I'll, I'll say this. In the in the moon on San
- 4:35Lumiere, which means a year without lights at, you know, at
- 4:432 minutes and 45 seconds when the guitar kicks in and the
- 4:49tempo picks up all the way to the end.
- 4:51I was like, OK, that's a nice touch musically, but otherwise
- 4:55it I'm like you it it is very peaceful and melodic.
- 4:59But other than that last ending part and truth be told that that
- 5:06ending surprise of when that tempo change is probably why it
- 5:09didn't. That's why I always like, Oh, I
- 5:12like that part. And so it didn't end up as
- 5:14always favorite for me. Which makes sense.
- 5:19Yeah, so now the the in the back seat though, like I, it did have
- 5:24quite a few changes. And do you know what that song's
- 5:28about? Did you see that in your
- 5:30research? I I read like the main themes
- 5:33that a lot of their songs fall on and I can't remember if that
- 5:36one I have. So that one is that's that's
- 5:38about her losing her mom at an early age and then how she's
- 5:43never had to be in control. So she's always been in the back
- 5:46seat, but now she's got to do a lot of these things.
- 5:51So you know, it, it was, you know, I, I, I, you know, it, it
- 5:56had some things that I liked, you know, with, with guitar, you
- 6:00know, goes away and being replaced by some strings, you
- 6:03know, and then in the middle of the song, like it gets real
- 6:05heavy for like 10 seconds and then goes away and then it comes
- 6:09back. So it it had some nice surprises
- 6:12musically in it, which just again kept it out of my least
- 6:18favorites. I mean, it's quite the roller
- 6:20coaster of music which makes. Sense as a reef is a roller
- 6:24coaster. So that's all pretty much the
- 6:28negative comments you'll hear from me.
- 6:30Yeah, about this album. Yeah, and, and, and just so we
- 6:34know, like best I can tell overall, I, I, I don't know if
- 6:39it's why it's called funeral Man.
- 6:43It'd be happenstance if it wasn't, but there were like 3 or
- 6:484 deaths as they were recording this, like close deaths of
- 6:53people in their family. Yeah.
- 6:55And so you can definitely tell that come through in these
- 6:59songs. Yeah, a lot of the songs are
- 7:02about either death or time and childhood and growing up.
- 7:08Like most of the songs have those themes in them.
- 7:12Yeah, which it's a pretty recurring theme across the band.
- 7:18Those tend to be pretty heavy themes, but especially in this
- 7:23album. But moving on to favorites if
- 7:27you have anything else to add. I do not hit it with the
- 7:30favorites. So my second favorite was
- 7:36neighborhood #1 tunnels. First song, I knew it was gonna
- 7:43be a banger when the song came on.
- 7:46Are you kidding? I don't know.
- 7:50It's just a beautiful, beautiful song.
- 7:52I think this one is pretty heavy about growing up.
- 7:57Like, I don't know, a lot of their songs are very
- 8:01reminiscent, almost like very few of their songs seem to be
- 8:06exploring emotions that they're currently feeling.
- 8:09And a lot of them are like more exploring like it's talking
- 8:13about leaving their bedrooms from their parents bedrooms to
- 8:17like tunnel their way to their friends and stuff like that.
- 8:20So it's like almost very reminiscent young mindset and
- 8:28just like it's just a beautiful song.
- 8:32I I don't know if it's sorry, I'm trying to cover my thoughts.
- 8:39I don't know if it's about like growing up or like that loss of
- 8:44innocence, because it doesn't really seem like that either.
- 8:47But I liked, I liked the lyrics where it was we let our hair
- 8:50grow long and forget all we used to know.
- 8:53Then our skin gets thicker from living out in the snow.
- 8:57I just thought that was a really beautiful way to word growing
- 9:00up, because that's what they're talking about.
- 9:03Supposedly it's like all these neighborhood songs are from a
- 9:07time when they were in I guess Canada and like the neighborhood
- 9:12was legit snowed under. Yeah.
- 9:16So you can, you can see that in some of these angst or like, no
- 9:20matter what, I'm going to build a tunnel and get out and see
- 9:22you. Yeah, but it's.
- 9:24And it starts like the opening line.
- 9:27And if the snow buries my neighborhood, yeah, like, yeah,
- 9:32that doesn't sound very good. But I just, I don't know, I, it
- 9:37was such this beautiful song about reminiscing 'cause it's
- 9:40talking about like we tried to name our babies, but we forgot
- 9:43all of those names. But we still remember our
- 9:47bedrooms and our parents bedrooms.
- 9:48And like, as a college student who doesn't live at home, like
- 9:52that breaks me a little bit, you know, 'cause it's like, I've
- 9:57tried to explain this feeling and or Mama Barber is gonna cry
- 10:01listening to this episode now. But it's like this fear that no
- 10:06matter where I go or how long I live there, it won't be my home
- 10:10and it won't be my bedroom. Because like, that's my home.
- 10:15That's my bedroom. That's what I remember, always
- 10:18remember y'all's bedroom and my bedroom and Wesley's and like my
- 10:22brother and all of that. So it's like this beautiful
- 10:27reminiscing that you can't help but reminisce on whenever you're
- 10:30listening to it, yeah. You know, and this is one that
- 10:34you know, I'm sure we've had some, but this was one that I
- 10:38remember making note of it because it it must not have
- 10:42happened too terribly much. Where the music is light, airy,
- 10:50mysterious, but still a happy beat.
- 10:54But yet the lyrics are not happy.
- 10:58And so there's a juxtaposition of those.
- 11:01You know, we talked about this with moving on up in Primal
- 11:04Scream lyrics and beat music. It all matched.
- 11:07It's happy, this one. You may feel happy, but those
- 11:13lyrics are not happy underneath. So it's.
- 11:18A nice juxtaposition sometimes in music and songs that you get
- 11:22and it can go reverse as well. It's it's one that so it's one
- 11:27that you can listen to without feeling super heavy unless you
- 11:31listen to it closely 'cause there are a few songs and the
- 11:35first one that's coming to mind is Kendrick Lamar, the Dear
- 11:39Avett. Or like the one where he wrote
- 11:41it to Drake's son and people that are like fan of Kendricks.
- 11:47Like that song is considered one of the best songs or rap songs
- 11:51like ever. And everyone that listens to it
- 11:55will say like I never want to listen to that song again
- 11:59because of like exactly. It's meant to make you feel like
- 12:04chills and like Oh no, this is 1 where I can listen to it again.
- 12:09But if I listen to lyrics I'll get emotional more so than I
- 12:13will feel happy. And that wasn't even my favorite
- 12:16song. Favorite song was kind of Love.
- 12:20Nothing. I have no notes for a song.
- 12:24Genuinely like it was one of my favorite songs.
- 12:29I listen to it the most like that.
- 12:32I've listened to any song off of any of these lists.
- 12:36I there's something about it that was so familiar.
- 12:41I felt like I had heard this song before.
- 12:43I know I probably haven't, but it was like a very familiar beat
- 12:47without sounding repetitive. The part where it's like that
- 12:53part is so familiar to me. I don't know why.
- 12:56The way like keyworded things and the song is just still
- 13:04beautiful like for you. My love keeps on growing still
- 13:08the same just like cancer. And yet you won't give me a
- 13:10straight answer like it it. And if you still want me, please
- 13:14forgive me. The kind of love has fallen for
- 13:16me. It's like this beautiful song of
- 13:17like I messed something up and I need to repair it and I just
- 13:21need more love and I can't and I'm losing it.
- 13:25And it's just like he articulate to all so well.
- 13:31And also the I carved your name across my eyelids.
- 13:36You pray for rain. I pray for blindness.
- 13:39Like these vivid imagery or this vivid imagery that he provides
- 13:44that's like almost like, oh, that doesn't sound like that
- 13:49sounds awful. Like it.
- 13:51It causes a reaction to hear like carving something on your
- 13:54eyelids, like that's a visceral reaction that you don't hear
- 13:57often when you think about love or breakups or like this
- 14:02affection. And I love it when people do
- 14:05talk about love in kind of like a weird funky way.
- 14:11And I just, I loved it. I also 'cause this is just what
- 14:15we are now. It's like some of it feels very
- 14:19religious specifically to me in this song, because we talk about
- 14:26that a lot. It feels, I don't know, the
- 14:31crown of love always makes me think of the crown of thorns
- 14:33because that's when I hear of the crown of and it's, it's
- 14:37almost, it feels like the song of like whenever Jesus cries
- 14:42out, like you forsake me. Like it's, it's almost this
- 14:45moment of like, if you want me, please take me back.
- 14:47Like I'm so obsessed and continuously obsessed with you
- 14:50and you're not taking me back. And like that moment of
- 14:54desperation of being separated and having no way back.
- 14:59Like obviously we know that's not where it ended, but and not
- 15:02getting this straight and like, it's just, that's always what I
- 15:07felt during it was like this desperation to return, which is
- 15:10exactly what I feel the song was trying to do.
- 15:13And it was just a beautiful message and beautiful song.
- 15:18It sounded pleasing too, so I can't complain.
- 15:21My second favorite it's and I've really got 2A and 2B, but I went
- 15:26with Wake up. I really like rebellion, you
- 15:30know, wake up. Just the opening guitar riff is
- 15:34like, OK, that that part draws me in, you know, And of course,
- 15:40just knowing my my like and grunge that is a very distorted,
- 15:48for lack of a better word, dirty way to stop start the song and
- 15:51said cleanliness like most of their area, like most of their
- 15:56other songs. And then you know it, it's a
- 16:00240. But he sings that line just a
- 16:02million little gods causing rainstorms, like such a great
- 16:07lyric. But then you also that raspy
- 16:12hint of imperfection is also there that I really like as
- 16:17well. And then toward the end of the
- 16:19song, like it's just like a brand new song and the the beat
- 16:25changes, the tempo changes. And every time I was listening
- 16:28to it, like it, it just catches me off guard.
- 16:30It's like, oh, I went, we went to another song.
- 16:34And then once I figured out that Haiti came after that, I was
- 16:37like, oh, no, like this is still the same song.
- 16:40So I, I really like that one. And so I didn't want to.
- 16:44Yeah, go ahead. That one, this one that I read
- 16:47was about like saying like get, get your act in gear.
- 16:53You have to get up, you have to wake up, you have to start
- 16:56acting. And I think it's really deep
- 16:58that they started it slower and then like changed it to a whole
- 17:01different song and like did all that 'cause it really feels like
- 17:04you're waking up and you're like, OK, I have to change.
- 17:08I had to be this now. And it's I think that's cool.
- 17:13And so my favorite. Would you be able to guess my
- 17:16favorite? It wasn't rebellion.
- 17:19Nope. I would say you're not going to
- 17:24guess it and we're not going to let the Pauls go too long
- 17:27because then. You have.
- 17:29To edit it it is it is audio here after all crown of love.
- 17:35So we agree the the reason I was excited for this one was because
- 17:44I'm like, if she doesn't pick Crown of Love as her favorite
- 17:48song, she is a lyric lover faker like that.
- 17:56I just knew it. But you know, this is one of
- 17:59those ones. And so from me, coming from the
- 18:03musicality side of it, there is no music when it first starts.
- 18:08And so like, that's a that's a brave and bold thing to do.
- 18:12And it just forces you to hear the lyrics and listen to it
- 18:18because they're so clear. And then like, Oh my word, you
- 18:24know, like, no, I don't normally listen to lyrics, granted, but
- 18:28it's not like I can't look at them and see them and do all
- 18:32that, you know? But it it's just the piano that
- 18:37starts and vocals. So it's hard not to hear the
- 18:41lyrics. His voice is, is pretty clear,
- 18:45you know, and they, you, you know, the song, I guess going
- 18:48into it, I did at least, was Crown of Love.
- 18:51And the first line is, they say it fades if you let it.
- 18:55I was like, uh oh, like you instantly know what he's talking
- 19:00about, you know, and, and you can even in that first line,
- 19:06like you can hear the sadness and heartbreak and his voice.
- 19:11And so for me, a lot of times, like the vocals become an
- 19:15instrument, you know, and just like with a guitar, you can have
- 19:18a clean voice, you can have a raspy distorted voice, but yet
- 19:23you can also have a sad voice and or happy voice.
- 19:28But to like to be able to portray those emotions through
- 19:34it was just was just incredible. You know it like it's at 227,
- 19:42the line, the pains of love they keep blowing.
- 19:45The way that he wails on that and and just goes higher is
- 19:50again, just so heartbreaking. But it's funny because I took a
- 19:57different take on the lyrics. And so for me the IT was.
- 20:07Him losing the love. And so lots of people can relate
- 20:11to that. But people are, you know, they
- 20:17say it fades if you let it. Love was made to forget it.
- 20:21Those first two lines to me are people telling him move on and
- 20:26not anybody but his mom because it later talks about like, I'd
- 20:31snuffed it out before my mom walked in the bedroom.
- 20:33It's like the song pieces together and the, you know,
- 20:39it's, it's him begging for somebody to come back to him and
- 20:45that she's not necessarily giving him a clear answer.
- 20:51But I take the chorus as the clear answer.
- 20:56And so the chorus is, if you still want me, please forgive
- 21:00me. So this would be his love lost
- 21:02and this to him, if you still want me, please forgive me.
- 21:06The crown of love has fallen from me.
- 21:08If you still want me, please forgive me because the spark is
- 21:11not within me. He's getting his clear answer.
- 21:14He just doesn't want to hear it. And, and the, the sadness, you
- 21:18can hear that in his voice as it comes through, you know, and
- 21:22then at the end he's saying, you know, there's you're the only
- 21:26one, the only word that I can say.
- 21:28Just the, the pain of the song of, of having a love lost.
- 21:35And again, got no idea if if you know his his wife is the
- 21:40drummer. So got no idea.
- 21:43If this was about somebody else, you would think that it would be
- 21:47previous, But I absolutely love, love this song.
- 21:52It's beautifully done musically, beautifully done lyrically and
- 21:58vocally, just the way it sounds. And for me, this song and this
- 22:05album is the reason that I love doing this, because I know I
- 22:12never would have heard this song if we weren't doing this, and I
- 22:15would have. I would have missed out on this.
- 22:17And this is a great song. Yeah, I was.
- 22:21I was going to say this album has probably been my favorite
- 22:25that we've listened to so far and I would not have stumbled on
- 22:30it on my own. Probably, I probably a little
- 22:34bit more likely than you, however, 'cause I have bridges
- 22:37in it we'll talk about. But yeah, I would say my one of
- 22:43my favorite parts of the whole album was his ability to put his
- 22:48emotions into his voice. And it's, it's almost like a, a,
- 22:55I think it's called a vibrato where your voice shakes.
- 22:59But he does it in such a way that it, it's like an emotional
- 23:02and it like pulls you in and you can't help but feel like he's a
- 23:07friend crying to you or wailing to you or like opening up to
- 23:11you. And so there's this immediate
- 23:13bond that you make with him. And also like, I feel like crown
- 23:17of love. He talks about it in such a way
- 23:19that's beautiful and it's why I admire a musician so much.
- 23:24He talks about it so eloquently and beautifully, but it's
- 23:27something most people have experienced.
- 23:30It's like someone walking away and you being like, that's the
- 23:33person for me and I'm losing them.
- 23:36And like you, there's no actual spark there, but that's just
- 23:40what you know. And so you just want to keep it
- 23:41and keep it and keep it and like and so.
- 23:45And it's funny that what what he's being told and that it
- 23:49fades if you let it. Like that's all true.
- 23:52But in the moment of that heartbreak, that's not what you
- 23:55want to hear, you know? And and you but yet you you can
- 24:01see of as you've come out on the other side or as somebody has
- 24:06come out on the other side of that, you're like, yeah, all
- 24:09that's true. But yet I can hear the sadness
- 24:14in that moment of being able to say, OK, yeah, this this is a
- 24:19sad moment. So it's it's it's beautifully
- 24:22done and not one of their more popular songs on the album.
- 24:26Which is insane to me. It it's a it's a great song.
- 24:30I highly highly recommend 2 Thumbs Up.
- 24:33Yeah, it's. I think the great superpower of
- 24:36musicians is being able to put to words feelings.
- 24:41As someone who draws, I can put feelings in a painting, but that
- 24:45does not mean I can put words to that painting.
- 24:47True, true. So it's one of the great
- 24:51superpowers and you, a little dad, Barber Todd Lore.
- 24:58You write poetry sometimes, like when you are, well, when you're
- 25:02overwhelmed with emotion, it seems, and you don't know where
- 25:06to put it. You write some too, so.
- 25:11Or listen to angry music. Or listen to angry music,
- 25:14though. Well, you.
- 25:15Well, when I was born, you wrote a poem.
- 25:17You didn't listen to angry music.
- 25:19So it's usually when you're overwhelmed with good emotions,
- 25:21it seems from the poems that I've read.
- 25:24Yeah, which ironically enough, I'm not a punk fan, but yet Love
- 25:30will still still do some of their stuff.
- 25:32Rage Against the Machine. Not sure how that works, but it
- 25:36does. I think that's like the lore
- 25:38that you, on one of your first dates with Mama Barber, pulled
- 25:45up to the apartment, blasting Rage Against Machine.
- 25:47Well, I, I will neither confirm nor deny.
- 25:50So the, you know, one of the things that we also like to do
- 25:54is like, OK, why? Why would this album be listed
- 25:59as as one of the greatest of all time?
- 26:02Neither one of us said, you know, heard of Arcade Fire and I
- 26:05remember actually wake up from radio but never listen to the
- 26:09rest of the album. And one of the things that, as I
- 26:13looked at it and did research, reminded much.
- 26:16You know, as I read comments, I'm reminded of our debate about
- 26:21alive by Pearl Jam in that I'm a big fan of it.
- 26:26And you're like, no, that's not one of their best ones.
- 26:29Low on their out which? Is which is going to get me like
- 26:32crucified. But but it's understandable
- 26:35because that's an anthem. The people that grew up at when
- 26:40that song was playing, you know? And so you just had to be there.
- 26:45And many people in comments and stuff about this album were
- 26:48like, that's the same thing, that this was a fairly new sound
- 26:52in 2004 with the soaring sound, the different instruments, the
- 26:57different sounds, male and female, like you said, switching
- 27:01back and forth. Some of the songs, several of
- 27:04the songs had French lyrics in them.
- 27:06You know, it's big and bold and some places heartbreaking and
- 27:10withdrawn and others and it's always shifting and moving.
- 27:14So you never know what's going to come next.
- 27:17And so when it doesn't, the song seems normal.
- 27:21Which the two that I, you know, my least favorites, those those
- 27:26are just normal songs. But on an album that has got no
- 27:29normal songs, the normality of them stood out.
- 27:33But I really, and I think that's probably why a lot of people
- 27:36said this album stood out, was just that almost stadium
- 27:42anthemic sounding that came out of this album that was not
- 27:48around in 2000s to that point. So I can talk a little bit more
- 27:56on this just because for those obviously you don't know me,
- 28:02this genre is probably one of my favorite genres.
- 28:06So it technically falls under indie rock ish, indie rock, art
- 28:13rock. Sometimes it shifts.
- 28:17So like you said, indie rock. Arcade Fire is known for being
- 28:23one of the leads into indie rock as well as Bright Eyes.
- 28:31So Bright Eyes and Arcade Fire are often mentioned in the same
- 28:35breath as they were pretty much pioneers of indie rock which got
- 28:40it brought about in the early 2000s.
- 28:42Bright Eyes released their album I think the same year and Bright
- 28:47Eyes does the same. Like haunting voice, imperfect
- 28:51vocals. This these horrible lyrics, like
- 28:56great lyrics, but horrible like emotionally like they're just
- 28:59very emotional lyrics and they do the same like airy sounds
- 29:03like some are up, some are down, some are about love, like and
- 29:07you just never really know. Like they have one of the
- 29:10sweetest songs ever called First Day of My life, but also one of
- 29:14the most like depressing songs that's.
- 29:19That's funny you you mentioned that.
- 29:20I just went and looked up bright eyes and first day of my life on
- 29:24Spotify is their most popular 1 and I.
- 29:27Have it. I have it checked so I went and
- 29:29checked and it's something that I've shazammed so when I Shazam
- 29:34a song it it automatically creates goes into a playlist for
- 29:38me and. I was like.
- 29:39So somewhere along I've heard it and liked it enough to Shazam it
- 29:42and go, yeah. It's, it's basically saying that
- 29:46he like one of the lyrics is I never lived until I met you like
- 29:49this beautiful love song. And then there's another song
- 29:54that's about losing someone. And I think the main lyric is
- 29:56now I'm a single cell on a serpent's tongue and a
- 30:01statuesque. Like it's, it's this beautifully
- 30:03worded, like cryptic, but like you can piece it together.
- 30:08It's just beautiful. And they reminded me a lot of
- 30:11Bright Eyes when I first listened to the song.
- 30:13The like the vibrato that he uses, the specific type of
- 30:18vibrato is exactly what Broad Eyes uses a lot and made me
- 30:22think of it. And then the more I listen to
- 30:25it, the more I was like, I know this sound from somewhere and I
- 30:29like, I know it well. One of my favorite albums of all
- 30:32time that I've made you listen to and you did not like it very
- 30:35much is Neutral Milk Hotel in the Aeroplane Over the Sea.
- 30:40I liked it. You.
- 30:42Yeah, not as much as I did. That's true.
- 30:46That's. True, it's like it's top ten.
- 30:48It's it didn't quite make top five, but I think it's probably
- 30:50like 6 out of favorite islands of all time.
- 30:54Neutral Milk Hotel is probably the founder, if not one of the
- 30:59founders of indie rock. They were one of the first
- 31:04people to do music the way they did and their lyrics are very
- 31:09similar. And when I was talking about
- 31:11like the carving and eyelids, it's like this very visceral
- 31:14imagery. It's uncomfortable and neutral
- 31:18Milk Hotel, most of their lyrics are very uncomfortable and it's
- 31:24like almost a for me, I enjoy it, but for others, it's very
- 31:29this is not pleasant to listen to.
- 31:31It makes me uncomfortable and it's not enjoyable.
- 31:35So just for. Those that are listening the
- 31:38album, what what what was the album so people can go listen to
- 31:40it as well in the. In the Airplane over the sea
- 31:44yeah yeah. By Neutral Milk Hotel, beautiful
- 31:47album cover too. It looks very similar to this
- 31:48album cover, but they also just have like this beautiful
- 31:56vibrato, this beautiful, like they bring in trumpets and
- 31:59strings and like drums and all of this.
- 32:03And so I just think that that's probably why I'm so drawn to
- 32:10this album in particular is 'cause it's very reminiscent of
- 32:13some of my favorite music because Bright Eyes is one of my
- 32:16favorites. Neutral Mokotel is definitely
- 32:19one of my favorites. And so it's just another band
- 32:23that was like, this is my type of music right here.
- 32:27Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, again, some of the
- 32:34people that you know, Florence and the Machine, Munford and
- 32:37Sons listed them as as influences or listed this album
- 32:43in particular as influences. And then one that that popped up
- 32:47that I was like, ha, that I always love.
- 32:50The name of the band is Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros.
- 32:56So lots of people may know their biggest hit is home.
- 33:00I really like one of their other ones.
- 33:02Man on Fire is on my like playlist.
- 33:05So but again, all all bands that that point back to Funeral is
- 33:13influential or Arcade Arcade Fire is influential.
- 33:16So anything else before we get to the ratings?
- 33:21My one other thing that I think you would appreciate because
- 33:24it's it reminds me of Pearl Jam, something Pearl Jam does.
- 33:29So the name, yes, but the name Arcade Fire.
- 33:38Did you look how they came up with that name?
- 33:41No, I did not. OK so everyone I looked it up
- 33:45and a bunch of Reddit is like oh it's this idea of Arcadia.
- 33:49Arcadia is like this hallowed ground.
- 33:53It's like this euphoria and it's on fire.
- 33:55And like, that's what it means. It's this beautiful meaning.
- 33:59Well, the lead singer apparently talked about it once.
- 34:02And it was like, no, when I was in elementary school, there was
- 34:05a bully. He went around and told everyone
- 34:06that there was an arcade that caught on fire and killed a
- 34:08bunch of kids. And I was scared of it and I
- 34:11remembered it. But and all like the discourse
- 34:15about it that I was reading a lot of the comments are saying
- 34:18it seems like he's saying that but not clueing in the other
- 34:22team members. Like if you ask the other band
- 34:24members what the name Arcade Fire is like, they don't really
- 34:27have a clear answer the way he does.
- 34:30And it's exactly what Eddie Vedner did where their name was
- 34:35named after the basketball player or whatever.
- 34:37And then all of a sudden in one of the interviews, they were
- 34:40like, what's your band saying? He's like pro Jam.
- 34:43They were like, what? And just all of a sudden their
- 34:46name was Pearl Jam. And he came up with this
- 34:48elaborate reason for why they were named Pearl Jam, like, And
- 34:52he just kind of like made it up as he went.
- 34:54And it feels very similar to just be like, Oh no, there's a
- 34:57bully. He just talked about an arcade
- 34:59that burned down, killed a bunch of kids.
- 35:01Scared me. It's like, what?
- 35:04What? But also a shout out for them is
- 35:08they're still making music. They're still releasing music.
- 35:12They just released a new album this past year I think.
- 35:14So. May 9th is.
- 35:16When they released. Their last album.
- 35:18Yeah, so very recently. So ratings, here I am.
- 35:24I'll kick us off. My personal rating and objective
- 35:28ratings are both 8.5 S for for me that is actually puts them
- 35:38personally second on my list. What's first?
- 35:42Well, I can't really tell you. It's it's one that we've already
- 35:46listened to, that we haven't recorded, that we will record
- 35:51and release later. Fair enough.
- 35:55So what about you? What are your ratings?
- 35:58I would guess. My personal rating was a 10.
- 36:05I loved this album. I loved everything about it.
- 36:08Even the songs that I said I didn't like, I liked them.
- 36:12I had to pick 2. I loved this album.
- 36:16I loved this band. This is one that I like.
- 36:19After listening to the album a few times this week, I delved a
- 36:21lot deeper into the band as a whole.
- 36:25It's one of the first bands that like, I followed myself, like I
- 36:30went through and went through everything.
- 36:33So it was, it's been my favorite and it genuinely has been like a
- 36:3710, which is I'm not just saying that lightly.
- 36:39It was, in my opinion, for me, a perfect album.
- 36:44Now objectively A9, because I understand that like there are,
- 36:53there are always going to be things you can change
- 36:54objectively about an album, even if those are the things that
- 36:57make you love it in my opinion. So objectively, I don't know if
- 37:02I sound like the teacher in high school that everyone hated.
- 37:05Objectively I don't know if any album is ever gonna get a 10,
- 37:10but personally I loved everything about this album.
- 37:15Very good. So any anything else or you
- 37:19wanna tell everybody what to go find on their streaming service
- 37:25next? I'll say you can expect this on
- 37:29a birthday list coming up. But then after that, for next
- 37:37week, we're going to get to record one that we have
- 37:44previously discussed, just not on Zoom or podcast, and it's
- 37:52going to be Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd.
- 37:58Yay. So.
- 38:01For people my. Age you may be able to instead
- 38:03of going to your streaming service, break out your CD set
- 38:09or vinyl copy, which I think Riley's got a vinyl copy.
- 38:15I don't have a dark side of the. Oh, you don't have this one?
- 38:17OK. No, I want it but it's like 40
- 38:19bucks everywhere and I'm not. Willing to?
- 38:21Oh yeah. Also on the birthday list.
- 38:23Yeah, so. But again, yeah, Dark Side of
- 38:27the Moon, Pink Floyd, and that's what we'll be listening to next
- 38:33week. So until then, I'm Todd.
- 38:35And I'm Riley, and this is Ben, this week's episode of Barbara.
- 38:39Tom, bye, bye.