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What to Do in Your Central Texas Garden (Dec. 1–15): Winter Planting & Pruning · ATXGardens Podcast

• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hi listeners, I'm Colleen Dieter, landscape consultant and certified arborist at atxgardens.com.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the ATX Gardens Podcast, where every other week I share simple, timely tips for what to do in your Central Texas garden right now.
• 0:31
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• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Hi gardening friends.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: This podcast episode, we are talking about what to do in your garden in the first half of December so that you can get the most out of your yard and garden.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: This episode is sponsored by ATXGardens.com.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_00: So let's get going.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_00: In general, in the first half of December, it's time to start top dressing your planting beds.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: So all your planting areas with a quarter inch of compost or just a light sprinkling of compost is really good for all of your plants.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's even more important than fertilizing because the compost adds beneficial microorganisms to the soil.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so those little friendly critters eat the leaves and mulch and other debris in the soil, and they make it into food that your plants can use.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: And those little soil microbes also aerate the soil to make it fluffier.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: And that provides more air to the roots and more moisture retention in the soil, too.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that's all really important for the health of your plants.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: So this winter, if you can just add about a quarter inch or less of compost to your planting beds, that'll keep your plants really happy in the long run.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to start thinking about holiday gifts.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh you can check out my store at atxgardens.com, click on explore, and then click on store, and you'll see my list of favorite things, all the gardening books and tools and furnishings and all kinds of fun gardening stuff for all the gardeners in your life.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: So check that out.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: I am an Amazon affiliate, and so I do get commissions when you click on those links at my store.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: If you haven't already, go ahead and adjust your watering schedule for winter.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, for example, at my house, I have a cocktail garden in my front entryway, and those are all plants in pots that are all used for making cocktails.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: And in late spring, summer, and fall, they all get watered on Saturdays and Tuesdays by hand if it doesn't rain.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: So that's my schedule.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: But in the winter, when the weather is cooler, you know, the sun is not as strong, the days are shorter, so there's not as much sunlight, you know, causing evaporation in those pots.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: So in the winter and early spring, those pots just get watered on Saturdays only.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: So that's one example of how you might adjust your watering schedule for the winter time.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: Test your irrigation systems to make sure they're working properly.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that goes not just for folks with automatic irrigation systems, but also just making sure if you have soaker hose or a manual drip line or, you know, timers attached to your faucets, just check on everything to make sure everything's working correctly.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, maybe you need some new garden hoses, check all of that stuff out in the winters, better time to check all that than in the summer when you're really urgently needing the water.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure everything's in working order.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, winter's here now, technically, I know it might not feel like it temperature-wise, depending on how the weather's been.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, it's a time when there's going to be a lot of pruning, perennials, and cutting back grasses and stuff like that.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I will definitely keep you abreast of all of that in the podcast coming up in in upcoming episodes.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_00: The winter episodes are really important to listen to so you can get updated about when and how to cut stuff back.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but also on my website, I sell my three-volume set of booklets.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's my zine called Let's Care for Texas Plants.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's available electronically or as a hard copy at atxgardens.com, and there's a link to that in the show notes.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now what's going on with our woody plants in early December?
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: You can still plant and transplant trees, shrubs, and woody vines like climbing roses in early December.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the vast majority of woody plants like Big Tooth maples, peaches, abelias, and magnolias can all tolerate cold temperatures in the winter when they're not actively growing.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: So now is a really good time for planting and transplanting them.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good time if you've had your first freeze in your yard this winter and you can see which plants died back in the freeze already.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a good idea to kind of take stock and see if you feel like your yard is missing winter interest.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_00: If it looks too drab in the winter time, um, you may want to plant some evergreen shrubs or some woody plants that have winter interest.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: So start thinking about that.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_00: It's time to plant those guys.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's see.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: For transplanting, if there's any shrubs that you need to move, I like to use a border spade for that job.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: And there's a link in the show notes to the border spade.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost time for winter pruning, and the pruning window for woody plants is heavily weather dependent.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_00: So if the weather has been cool or cold and all of the deciduous trees and shrubs have dropped their leaves, then it's okay to start pruning woody plants now.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but if the weather's been a little bit warm and the deciduous trees still have their leaves, just wait a little bit longer until the end of December instead.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: So keep listening to future episodes of this podcast, and I'll let you know when it's time to start pruning again.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_00: In general, I start pruning woody plants in December.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's usually a good time if uh the deciduous plants have dropped their leaves.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's usually time for all of the woody plants to get pruned.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_00: December is a good time for pruning oak trees because the beetle that carries oak wilt disease tends to be dormant at this time.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: So go ahead and you can start trimming oak trees, especially if they've lost their leaves.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes red oaks hold their leaves a lot longer into December.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: So if they still have leaves on them, don't trim them.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: But if they've dropped their leaves, then go ahead and start trimming.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure on oak trees to paint the wounds with any type of paint to seal those wounds just in case to help you give extra protection against oak wilt disease.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, do not use tar.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: I saw an oak tree covered in tar recently.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: It's not great for them.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just use the paint, okay?
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: Do not paint wounds on any other type of tree.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's only oaks, okay?
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: And there's going to be more about pruning oaks and other trees in the next episode here.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: Tree leaves are falling usually in December.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: Again, like I mentioned in past episodes, make sure you rake the leaves off of your lawn so you don't smother the grass.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: The turf grass cannot grow through leaves and can be shaded by the leaves and not get enough light, and that can cause your lawn to become patchy.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: So if you still have grass that you care about, make sure you're raking leaves off of that.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: You can shred the leaves that you rake off of your lawn and leaves that you sweep off of pavement or that you're blowing off of gravel.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: You can shred those leaves and then use them as mulch in the vegetable garden or add them to your home compost pile.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Leave as many unshredded leaves as possible in your planting beds because they make a great mulch and they're very important habitat for beneficial insects like fireflies.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Leave a layer of leaves about three inches deep.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: If you get deeper than that, sometimes you can get roaches and they can come into your house if they're living in your yard.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: They don't always, but sometimes they do.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: So just be aware you can't have too many leaves, but try to make sure you're leaving leaves because they're really good for the plants and they're really important for beneficial insects.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure your tree leaves don't cover any tiny plants like columbines, cedar sage, or lyre leaf sage.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're trying to remove leaves from little tiny plants or leaves that get kind of like stuck underneath shrubs and are like piling up in places where you don't want them, an adjustable rake is very helpful for that task because you can adjust the size of it to uh get in between little plants.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Check out the link in the show notes.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I am an Amazon affiliate, so I get commissions if you buy things through my links.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for checking that out.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: All right, now moving on to fruit trees.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: For citrus trees, make sure that you're ready to protect your citrus trees from freezing weather.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure you water them before there's a freeze.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_00: Bring them indoors if you can, if they're in pots, or get your covers ready or your incandescent holiday lights to help keep those citrus trees warm when the temperatures get to 32 degrees or lower.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: Other fruit trees right now, there's a lot to do with fruit trees in early December.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: December is a really good time for planting fruit trees, either bare root fruit trees or fruit trees that come in containers.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: So, especially peaches, pears, apples, plums, and nectarines, this is a great time for planting them.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: Japanese persimmons, it's a really good time for planting them too, either bare root or containerized.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_00: It's important to label your fruit trees with uh metal tags.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: You need to know what kind of tree it is, which variety of fruit you planted, and the date you planted it.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: That's all really important information to have when you're growing fruit trees.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: So there's a link in the show notes to the metal tags that I like that I use for my fruit trees.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: I also really recommend making a map or a journal of your orchard.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: Even if you just have a few trees, write down the species, the variety, and the date that you planted each tree.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: That way, if you lose one of your tags on the tree outside, you'll still have a backup record.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: As fruit trees grow and change, sometimes it's important to know which variety and how old the tree is when you're trying to diagnose fruit tree problems or if a fruit tree just isn't making fruit.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's really important to know how old they are and what variety they are.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: So make sure that you keep that information.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: And winter's a really good time to uh kind of round up and wrangle all that kind of stuff.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: So now I have a question from a listener.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: And the question that I got is could a giant fig tree be cut down aggressively to control its size?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the story here with this listener is that they have a fig tree that's just gotten too big and it's shading a part of the yard that they want to have more sun, and they were thinking about just completely removing the tree and wondering if it's possible to just cut it down and prune it severely and to try to keep it smaller.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: And the answer is yes.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: So definitely for fruit trees, you can renovate them to make them smaller.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, especially if the alternative is removing the tree, if you're just gonna remove it and you feel kind of bad about removing it, you might as well try cutting it down uh to shorten it.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: So you can think about it that way.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have anything to lose by just making it shorter.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot do this with big trees, with shade trees, okay?
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: So you cannot do this with oaks and pecans and walnuts.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of times people do, and it's a huge mistake.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: So do not do it with big trees, okay, with shade trees.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's really bad for them and causes them to become structurally unsound as they age, and it's really dangerous.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: But for fruit trees, you definitely can, especially figs.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: The best practice is not to remove more than 25 to 30 percent of the leaf surface area on a tree each year, and that includes fruit trees.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: But if the alternative is removing the tree, then just go ahead and trim it really hard and see how the tree responds, and then you can shape it however you want.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: Most fruit trees you can really shape however you like, especially figs.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I say go for it.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Rather than removing the tree, you might as well try it.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: So you can do that kind of trimming in the winter after the tree loses its leaves, or you can do it in mid-summer.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: So that would be like late June, July, or August.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: And that's okay.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: So try it out.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now let's talk about the perennial garden.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: What's happening with our perennials?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, do not plant any perennials at this time of year.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: All right, it is not a good time.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's too cold.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: All right, so don't do it.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Be sure to monitor your soil moisture for perennials, grasses, and bulbs, especially if you just planted them this past fall.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: In the winter, it can be really hard to tell if the soil is actually moist or if it's just cold.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: So use a moisture meter.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: There's one for sale on my website and on the show notes.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: So check that out.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: If we go for like two weeks without any rain and the weather's been warm and windy, especially make sure you check to see if the soil is moist.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: And in the next episode, I'm gonna talk more in depth about freezes and when to cut your perennials back after the first freeze.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: All right, now it's time for our sponsor break.
• 18:11
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• 19:08
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• 19:14
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• 19:20
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• 19:27
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• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: This week I helped a customer in Southwest Austin who is feeling really sad because she went away for the summer, and her hydrangeas and Japanese maples died without her care.
• 19:48
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• 19:55
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• 20:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I completely understand this.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: I recently decided to take a break from vegetable gardening after a few frustrating losses myself.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_00: I planted a bunch of seeds and then animals came and dug them all up.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Even though I had covered them with cages, the animals dug underneath.
• 20:23
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• 20:28
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• 20:31
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• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Now, coming up on the last Saturday in January, that's January 30th.
• 20:48
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• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: That is the day for the Central Texas Seed Savers big seed swap event at the Central Library where you can come and get seeds from other gardeners that they've been successful with.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Start thinking about what seeds you could bring to the seed swap on January 30th.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: And there'll be more details to come in upcoming episodes about this big seed swap.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's really, really fun.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I hope you'll be able to join us.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, now back to the show.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: What's happening with the vegetable and herb garden in early December?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_00: So early December is a really good time to plant onions from sets.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the little pencil sized baby onion plants that you can get in bundles.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: You can plant them now.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: I've found that they don't grow a whole lot until January.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: So it's okay, don't be alarmed if they just sort of sit and hang out until January.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: They'll kind of Get established and then they'll get going when the days start getting longer again.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's a good time to plant asparagus, artichokes, and cartoons from crowns.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, a crown is the part of the plant where the roots connect to the stems.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it's sort of like that chunk of transition space between the leaves or stems and the roots.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: So you can plant crowns for asparagus, artichokes, and cartoons now.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's also a really good time to plant blackberry canes if you find them bare root anywhere.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's similar to planting crowns.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be like a chunk of stem and a chunk of root.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_00: And you can put those in the ground now.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: Blackberry canes.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: This time of year, because the soil microbes are a little bit cold, they're not as active as they normally are.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the vegetables are such heavy feeders.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of our vegetables have been in the ground now and are established.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: They've been in the ground now since the fall, you know, for a couple months.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's a good idea to side dress now.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: You can side dress your vegetables with compost or a slow release dry fertilizer, or you can do a soil drench with amendments like liquid seaweed or liquid humate or compost tea.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: So side dressing means you take a dry material like compost or a slow release dry fertilizer, and you will put that next to the plant, and you'll just gently scratch that material into the top inch or two of soil, and then water it in really well.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: And you can use a hand cultivator.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: The hand cultivator is a tool that looks like a claw, or you can use a Japanese weeder for side dressing.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: I have a link in the show notes to both the hand cultivator and the Japanese weeder.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: Now's the time to start getting organized if you like starting warm season crops indoors from seed.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: Start getting all your supplies ready now.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: So a lot of gardeners really like growing tomatoes, peppers, and eggplants from seed.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: And they all need to be planted in the ground in March as small plants, okay, as starts.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes people call those starts or transplants, like little plants.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, they need to be little plants by March.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to start them from seed, then you need to plant those seeds coming up in late December or early January, so that by the time March comes around, you've got little plants ready to go.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_00: So tomatoes, peppers, and eggplants are the most common warm season crops that people like to start indoors.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: So at this time of year, in early December, get your propagation trays and pots set up.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna need to get them set up in a bright window or on a shelf with a grow light and a heating pad.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you'll need a propagation soil mix to get that going.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: So get all your supplies together and start ordering or shopping locally for seeds now too.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: And if you haven't checked yet, look at your local library for the seed collections there.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and check out special varieties of those vegetables that excite you that get you going.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I personally don't often start peppers, tomatoes, and eggplants from seed myself because I don't need that many plants in my garden.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I I struggle to have like the attention to detail needed for starting those seeds indoors.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I also have cats, and I don't have a lot of space that's not accessible to them where they wouldn't like eat the plants or dig in the plants.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: So those are all factors.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: But for really hardcore gardeners who really love like growing special varieties of tomatoes, peppers, and eggplants, they'll all start getting going at this time of year.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty cool.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_00: And now for the activism portion of the ATX Gardens podcast.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm the founder of an organization called Central Texas Seed Savers.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: And um, we always need seeds, um, especially vegetable seeds at this time of year.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_00: So if you have extra seeds left over from your fall vegetable garden that you didn't use, please take them to the library, or you can set those seeds aside and bring them to the seed swap that we're hosting on January 30th at the Central Library in downtown Austin.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: Think about saving some seeds from your fall and winter garden to share with others.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: We always need a lot of seeds in March when people are planting their spring gardens.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I think this year, especially, we're gonna need more seeds because the economy is bad.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_00: And when the economy slows down, a lot of people start planting vegetable gardens.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_00: And so we're gonna need a lot more seeds.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_00: So go ahead and start thinking about seed saving and setting aside some seeds.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: If there's any extras that you didn't use from your fall garden, set those aside or bring them to uh one of your local libraries.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: And in the show notes, there's a link to the Central Texas Seed Savers website that lists all of the local libraries that have seed libraries where you can drop off seeds.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: So that wraps up today's episode.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: I really appreciate y'all tuning in.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Please check the show notes for links to all of the good stuff I mentioned throughout the episode.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: And if you enjoyed this show, please share it with a fellow Central Texas gardener because it really helps the show grow.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm Colleen with atxgardens.com and I'll see you next time.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for listening to the ATX Gardens podcast.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: For show notes, tools, and to book a consultation with me, visit atxgardens.com.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_00: Happy gardening.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: See you next time.