Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Calling Christian Men to Suit up, Stand up & Speak up!

Transcript

Calling Christian Men to Suit up, Stand up & Speak up! · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

• 0:00
  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
• 0:10
  defending biblical Christianity.
• 0:13
  No topic, off limits.
• 0:16
  And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
• 0:30
  We appreciate that very, very much.
• 0:33
  And I want to bring in our guest right away.
• 0:35
  Well, there you go.
• 0:36
  You can go to download the app as well, Freedom Project app.
• 0:40
  You can subscribe to WorldView Matters.tv.
• 0:43
  Of course, the audio was available on different podcast platforms.
• 0:46
  And make sure to go to Rumble as well if you are on Rumble and look for Freedom Project
• 0:50
  and you'll get the World View Matters videos there.
• 0:53
  So today, our guest, Pastor David Roth, he's at one way Christian Church in Green Bay,
• 0:58
  Wisconsin.
• 0:59
  When married to his wife, Tammy, for 27 years, they have two children.
• 1:03
  And that is Terran and Macy.
• 1:06
  He believes the Lord called him to be a pastor later in his life after a successful business
• 1:10
  career.
• 1:11
  He strongly believes in the importance of expository, verse by verse teaching of the scriptures.
• 1:17
  We're going to talk about what that means.
• 1:19
  He also believes the Church is to have a living testimony, which becomes the platform from
• 1:24
  which Christians are to speak the truth and share the gospel.
• 1:28
  One thing I love about him, he's the founder of the Men of Iron Conference.
• 1:31
  We're going to talk about that quite a bit.
• 1:33
  And he also serves in a leadership position for the Prayer and Spiritual Encouragement Team
• 1:39
  of React 19.
• 1:41
  It's a non-profit organization that provides financial, physical, emotional and spiritual support
• 1:46
  for the vaccine injured.
• 1:48
  Pastor David Roth, welcome to WorldView Matters.
• 1:51
  Thank you very much, David, and honored to be here today with you.
• 1:55
  Yeah, first of all, congratulations to you as well for WorldView Matters.
• 1:59
  Thank you.
• 2:00
  So far so good.
• 2:01
  It's going well, but it's going to be good to see you in person in less than two weeks
• 2:07
  at, say, October 14.
• 2:09
  It's a Saturday in Green Bay, one-way Christian Church, the Men of Iron Conference.
• 2:15
  You just started it a couple of years ago.
• 2:17
  Tell us about the vision and just tell us about the beginnings of Men of Iron.
• 2:21
  Yeah.
• 2:22
  So the Men of Iron started by a group of men getting together and just realizing that
• 2:29
  it would be really beneficial for men to get recharged and refocused as to God's intent
• 2:38
  for us as men.
• 2:41
  And to do that on an annual basis.
• 2:45
  And right from the get-go, it was designed to not just to appeal to men of one church or
• 2:53
  a couple churches, but really to reach out to all the men in the Greater Green Bay area,
• 2:59
  brothers and Christ, to have this opportunity to come together, study God's Word, be encouraged
• 3:06
  through that, but also allow for men to interact with each other, just sharpen each other,
• 3:14
  and to really focus on what is God's intent for us as men within our homes, within the
• 3:20
  church, the workplace and the community.
• 3:24
  And it's been great to see, over the years, see men come to Christ at this event, but
• 3:33
  also just to see men continue to grow in their faith and participate in their sanctified
• 3:40
  work of the Holy Spirit.
• 3:41
  And it's been great and need to be a part of.
• 3:44
  Amen.
• 3:45
  Biblical maturity is so needed today.
• 3:48
  Men have kind of lost that role in the home, but also in our culture, David, because it
• 3:55
  seems like I can think back as far as the 1970s when men were basically emasculated on
• 4:03
  television and Primetime TV.
• 4:06
  There are always characters playing the fool or playing the insignificant husband, the
• 4:11
  dumb husband that didn't know what he was doing.
• 4:14
  And almost men as husband or as leader of the household was almost an unnecessary thought.
• 4:20
  But that's not what we need with a healthy society, for a healthy society.
• 4:25
  Where do you think we went wrong?
• 4:26
  I know we could open up a whole new can of worms on this, but I think we should go back
• 4:30
  and evaluate what happened to the role of men in our culture.
• 4:33
  But most importantly, the church, because the church is supposed to influence culture
• 4:38
  and men should be leading the way.
• 4:42
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 4:44
  And I think where we've gone wrong is we've changed our approach in the church.
• 4:52
  And I'm not obviously speaking for all churches, but just overall, the pulpit has watered down
• 5:01
  the gospel.
• 5:03
  And we become more focused on being seeker-friendly churches versus focusing on the truth itself.
• 5:12
  And the church is really Acts 242 speaks to this.
• 5:17
  It's a four full purpose of the church.
• 5:21
  And it starts with the, you know, being devoted to the apostles' teachings, fellowship,
• 5:28
  making a bread, which is the sacraments, and then prayer.
• 5:31
  But that focus and devotion to the apostles' teaching, I think, has been going downhill,
• 5:39
  if you will, from the pulpit.
• 5:42
  And we really need to focus on the truth and the teaching of the truth and training
• 5:46
  and equipping men to be biblical men.
• 5:50
  And that starts with them opening up their Bibles as well.
• 5:55
  I think we have to get men to increase their knowledge of God.
• 6:02
  So the more we know Him, and then the more we know that we know Him, that's going to
• 6:08
  lead to a willingness to obey Him.
• 6:13
  And so as that knowledge of Him grows, the willingness to obey Him grows.
• 6:19
  And then as a result, obedience grows.
• 6:22
  And I think a good starting point of getting us back to that is really getting men to
• 6:29
  take a look at, you know, park themselves in Ephesians 5 and Ephesians 6, where we get
• 6:36
  great biblical principles and instructions on how to be godly husbands, godly fathers,
• 6:42
  and just godly men in general when you think about the armor of God and all that is available
• 6:47
  to men, provide to God through the Holy Spirit within.
• 6:52
  So now as a god has to increase, that has to be a focus for the church without a question.
• 7:00
  We're going to get back to the men of iron conference because I like what the whole
• 7:04
  three, you know, expressions are suit up, stand up, and speak up, men of iron.
• 7:10
  And if it's based on Proverbs 29 or 27, 17 as one man, iron sharpens iron as one man
• 7:18
  sharpens another.
• 7:19
  But I want to talk about something you said, you mentioned the secret sensitive church
• 7:22
  and that's so sadly prevalent in America today.
• 7:26
  One of the reasons we are so soft and immature and we'd like to entertain instead of make
• 7:32
  disciples and equip the saints.
• 7:35
  So Pastor David Roth tell me why expository preaching is so important and that if that
• 7:42
  just doesn't line up with the seeker sensitive, you know, try to attract a crowd, it just
• 7:48
  doesn't line up with that when you're teaching verse by verse, tell us why that's important.
• 7:52
  Well, I think first and foremost, the reason for the need for it is it removes man's wisdom
• 8:03
  and human thought.
• 8:06
  You know, when we engage in topical type preaching, which, you know, I will do on exception.
• 8:12
  So it's rare, but I will do it from time to time if there's a need, but, you know, topical
• 8:18
  preaching ends up preaching on emotion, but it also ends up having the topic, the pastor
• 8:27
  taking that topic and seeking scripture to fit the topic versus with expository preaching,
• 8:34
  you're taking scripture and basically defining it.
• 8:39
  And so you don't have that human element of that human opinion and wisdom interjected
• 8:45
  when you engage in expository teaching.
• 8:48
  You're basically just going verse by verse and providing a historical context, context
• 8:54
  is so important and that's missing in our teaching from the pulpit, but the context,
• 9:01
  historical perspectives, studying the Hebrew and the Greek so that we get the true meaning
• 9:08
  of the passage.
• 9:10
  And from that meaning, we then can determine what are the applications that we can take
• 9:15
  from it.
• 9:16
  And I think too often with other styles of preaching, topical preaching, you know,
• 9:24
  we're trying to do that in reverse, we're leading with applications and again, trying
• 9:30
  to fit scripture into that application versus having scripture define the application
• 9:36
  for us.
• 9:37
  You said a very important word, context, and you might want to say kind of like real estate
• 9:42
  is location, location, location, the teaching of scripture and Biblically is context, context,
• 9:48
  context, because oh my goodness, I scripture has been abused, ripped out of context.
• 9:54
  I've just been unfortunately or been at churches or have heard so many sermons where things
• 10:00
  were taken out.
• 10:01
  I mean, grace was a big topic.
• 10:03
  A lot of people like to teach on grace, they don't teach the full balance of that.
• 10:07
  Grace, mercy, you know, they don't put the truth and God's judgment too, they don't find
• 10:12
  a proper balance, but you can teach too much of one thing or you can take it out and make
• 10:16
  it mean something, it really doesn't mean and give it, get out of balance.
• 10:20
  So I know it's so important to do that.
• 10:23
  I want to mention what under the men of iron conference, what is on the front page and
• 10:30
  it's very important, I believe it says, we are at war, a spiritual war and the enemy is
• 10:35
  ruthless and relentless.
• 10:38
  Brothers in Christ, men of iron, we must suit up, stand up and speak up.
• 10:43
  Put up with the armor of God and pick up the mighty sword and courageously stand up
• 10:48
  to boldly speak up as men of iron, we need to seek and pursue truth, but also be willing
• 10:55
  to defend the truth and expose the lies and deceit, threatening our families, churches
• 11:02
  and the youth.
• 11:03
  I want to stop right there, David, because it goes on, but that is important right there.
• 11:08
  If more men were, first of all, really mature in the word of God, the knowledge of scripture,
• 11:13
  the knowledge of the truth and had a solid foundation, they would be able to discern.
• 11:19
  And then the importance of seeing the craziness that's going on, the deceit, there's a lot
• 11:24
  of deceptions out there.
• 11:25
  The enemy is obviously going after children today and families.
• 11:29
  So talk about the importance of that and then we've got to take a break in a couple minutes.
• 11:32
  But the importance of men being mature in the word of God, being able to discern, but
• 11:36
  then how to respond to the deception that's going on right outside the wall here.
• 11:42
  Yeah, yeah, and let me just say a few passages that really inspired this year's theme of suit
• 11:49
  up, stand up and speak up, and I think we'll help guide us through this question and answer.
• 11:56
  When you look at Ephesians 6 with the armor, God, which obviously allows us to stand up against
• 12:04
  the schemes of the devil, stand up against the spiritual forces of evil as Ephesians 6 says.
• 12:09
  But what men need to understand is that God gives us everything that we need to engage
• 12:16
  and to be victorious in the spiritual battle.
• 12:18
  Yes.
• 12:19
  And when you look at specifically the armor of God, you've got the belt of truth,
• 12:23
  you've got the breastplate of righteousness, you've got the shoes for our feet, the shield of faith,
• 12:29
  the helmet of salvation, and he gives us the only offensive weapon that we need is the
• 12:35
  sort of the spirit, which is the word of God. But we as men need to be able to tap into
• 12:42
  that spiritual power that's given to us through our faith alone and Christ alone.
• 12:47
  So when you look at the belt of truth, we live in the world system which belongs to Satan.
• 12:54
  He's the father of lies, he's the father of deception, but we live in the truth,
• 13:00
  and we need to strap on the belt of truth, which allows us to not only defend our faith,
• 13:07
  but it allows us to content for our faith.
• 13:10
  And you think about the breastplate of righteousness, obviously this is of course the righteousness
• 13:15
  of Jesus. It's not man's righteousness, it's his righteousness that's placed into us
• 13:20
  and it guards our hearts, it protects our hearts, which is our vital organ for our faith.
• 13:29
  And then the shoes, right? We need to lace on the shoes that God provides us, and this is where
• 13:37
  I think men really need to stand up and understand is that those shoes that God provides us,
• 13:44
  that's about him wanting us to step into the battle. So many men sit idly, we're isolating
• 13:53
  ourselves and we're not getting stepping out into the battle. And that's where we need to do.
• 13:59
  And he provides us protections with the shoes for our feet to go to step into that battle and to go
• 14:05
  and share the gospel of peace as Ephesians 6 speaks to. And the shield of faith, we've got great
• 14:13
  confidence, we should have great confidence in our faith. I mean after all our faith is authored by
• 14:19
  Jesus, it's perfected by Jesus. So it's a faith that can protect us from anything that Satan throws
• 14:27
  our way. Amen. And then of course the helmet of salvation, which obviously a helmet protects the
• 14:34
  head, our minds reside in our head and God is going to protect our minds against any false
• 14:41
  teachers and false doctrines of the world. And that's through discernment. But at the end of
• 14:48
  the day, we have to be engaged in this because we cannot sit back and just wait for a mysterious
• 14:57
  or mystical experience where the Holy Spirit just sanctifies us to a point where we can just
• 15:04
  be completely protected and guarded in all these ways. We have to be actively engaged
• 15:10
  in our sanctification and transformation. And it's just getting men to realize that we have a
• 15:19
  tremendous spiritual power within us. We have the fruit of the spirit within us. And we have
• 15:26
  everything that we need, including the greatest spiritual weapon there is. And that's the power
• 15:33
  of God's word. And so just getting men to mentally engage in the acknowledgement of that and
• 15:40
  understand that hopefully will lead more men to say, you know what? Okay, I've got everything I
• 15:46
  need. They're Christ alone. Yes, it's time to get off the cruise ship and onto the battleship
• 15:51
  in Christ. We've got to take a break more by the way, the website is men of ironconference.org
• 15:58
  right back with Pastor David Roth. Today's show is brought to you by Harbinger's Daily.
• 16:04
  World News Biblically Understood. Stay informed at harbingerstaley.com.
• 16:18
  By the way, there's a Facebook event that you can share with men. It's called men of iron
• 16:25
  conference. And it's in Green Bay, Wisconsin, October 14. It's a Saturday all day event.
• 16:30
  Carl Kirby, a guest we've had on this show as well. He's going to be one of the speakers. David is
• 16:36
  going to be speaking there. I will be speaking there as well. Men of ironconference.org. And there's
• 16:41
  a Facebook event. So Pastor David Roth, I want to get right to this. I didn't want to run out
• 16:46
  of time. I was watching a program with Kurt Cameron interviewing Franklin Graham,
• 16:53
  two great men of God, right? Men of iron who are taking the sword of the spirit. It's our weapon
• 16:59
  knowing the word of God. Franklin Graham said when he's on trips overseas on certain countries
• 17:05
  that we don't look at as big, you know, strong countries, he sees the church growing and thriving
• 17:10
  partly because of persecution. But mainly the church is hungry for the word of God. We don't
• 17:15
  have that hunger in America. And Franklin Graham said when he's on some of these trips, he encourages
• 17:22
  them these churches overseas to send missionaries to America. Now 20 years ago, I was in California
• 17:30
  still living there at the time just before we moved. And a pastor came in, a guest pastor came in
• 17:35
  and he shared how he was hearing from missionaries coming in from a couple different countries
• 17:41
  into Los Angeles International Airport to evangelize the decadent West their words.
• 17:48
  America doesn't have a great reputation for the strength and influence of Christianity.
• 17:54
  We want to help try to change that. It starts with the men. But your thoughts on
• 17:59
  we need to be evangelized and we're talking about the basics, the gospel, aren't we?
• 18:03
  Yep, yeah, absolutely. And you know, I think over time as we've clearly seen
• 18:09
  in this country, we have become so soft within the church that and things are being preached as
• 18:20
  it's easy faith. All you need to do is this, bow your head, raise your hand, say a prayer, walk an
• 18:25
  aisle. And but we're really not digging deep in Scripture and clearly defining what it truly
• 18:34
  means to walk in the light. What it truly means to be a faithful believer and
• 18:40
  follower of Jesus Christ, we are not raising enough followers of Jesus Christ within the church
• 18:48
  today. And we have professing believers, but we need to make sure that we're training
• 18:54
  in equipping people to be followers of Jesus Christ, which means that we go and we share
• 18:59
  the good news of Jesus Christ. We share the gospel of Jesus Christ and with that will come
• 19:04
  persecution. I mean, throughout Scripture, we see how the church grows. And I think we're
• 19:09
  likely seeing this throughout the world in countries like China, for example, Afghanistan, where
• 19:16
  the church is growing because of persecution. I mean, after Stephen was stoned to death,
• 19:23
  what happened? Well, they scattered. They scattered. And through that persecution, the church grew.
• 19:29
  Yes. And I think we've had it easy here in this country. And then the American church,
• 19:36
  we don't experience persecution outside of verbal persecution. Now things are changing.
• 19:42
  I think what we're seeing is, you know, we're living in Romans one in this country. I think we're
• 19:49
  being disciplined by God. I think God is turning people over to their desires of the flesh.
• 19:55
  And it will be a matter of time before we start to experience more persecution.
• 20:02
  And as believers, we don't seek persecution, but we shouldn't run from it.
• 20:10
  But let us also understand that great blessings come from that persecution and the church will
• 20:17
  grow as a result of that. Yes, we're not promised happiness. That's circumstantial anyway.
• 20:23
  But I mean, even Christian books, a lot, some books talking about, you know,
• 20:28
  every day is a Friday. Live your best life now. Just visualize and God will bless you and give you
• 20:33
  what you want. Like we're treating God as if he was a genie. And I want to mention what you said.
• 20:38
  This mentality in some churches in America are adding when you come to maybe share the gospel,
• 20:45
  or what some people think is the gospel. Just add Jesus to your life and you'll be complete.
• 20:50
  No, no, no, no. Jesus is our life to live as Christ to die as gain. He's not just a cherry on
• 20:56
  the top of a big massive banana split with all the fruit and ice cream. Now Jesus is our life.
• 21:03
  So we kind of got that backwards. So that's a wrong gospel when they're trying to sell Jesus as
• 21:08
  something you can just add. So in other words, David, you don't have to change anything in your life.
• 21:12
  Just, you know, make the decision to add Jesus and you'll be saved. That's another gospel, isn't it,
• 21:18
  your thoughts? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And we talk about that frequently here at one way.
• 21:27
  You know, it's it's the wrong gospel when we and trying to encourage people to come to Christ
• 21:32
  because he will fix your finances. He will fix your marriage. And, you know,
• 21:39
  you'll have your better experiences at your workplace and so forth and so forth. And it becomes the
• 21:45
  gospel of self. It becomes a gospel of consumerism. What can I get from Jesus Christ when it's us
• 21:55
  giving our lives to him as he gave his life for us? It is all about Jesus. It's not about fixing
• 22:04
  this or that. And we have got to do a better job within America's church of explaining the gospel,
• 22:12
  the true gospel. And it's first and foremost, Jesus came for the glory of his father. He came
• 22:22
  and lived a perfect life for the glory of his father. He died a perfect death for the glory of
• 22:29
  his father. And yes, as a result, an outcome of that, those who believe in him alone have faith
• 22:39
  and have eternal life. But the focus has got to stop being on us. Yes. And it needs to be on Christ.
• 22:47
  Yes. It needs to be on Christ. Yeah, even in our worship, friends, be careful. I know you probably
• 22:52
  do it at your church, David. You look at those lyrics. Are they theologically sound or they
• 22:57
  about me, me, me, God blessing me? You're so good to me all the time. And we can get out of whack
• 23:03
  and almost romanticize God. But we're running out of time already. David is at one way Christian
• 23:09
  at church in Green Bay, Wisconsin. That's where the men of iron conference is going to be
• 23:13
  Saturday, October 14, less than two weeks away. We hope you can make it men in northeast Wisconsin.
• 23:20
  David, I wanted to ask you about something very important. And that is React 19. We talked about
• 23:25
  this a little bit on the phone a couple months ago. It's a nonprofit organization that provides
• 23:31
  financial, physical, emotional, and spiritual support to the vaccine injured.
• 23:37
  We need this more than ever with the more news coming out of people with heart problems and
• 23:42
  dying young athletes and and brain injuries, you know, just share it with the vision and what
• 23:50
  this is all about. Yeah. So in April of this year, I had an opportunity to attend a medical
• 23:58
  medical freedom choice conference in Wisconsin Dells. And I sat in on a session where Dr. Joel
• 24:07
  Wolfscock, who was an orthopedic surgeon from Milwaukee, who was vaccine injured. And he shared
• 24:15
  his story, but he's also a believer. And he shared his testimony during this conference. And I
• 24:22
  immediately approached him after hearing him speak because at the time, they only had three pillars,
• 24:30
  the medical support, financial support, and emotional support pillars for the vaccine injured.
• 24:36
  And I just said, Hey, based on your faith, you really need a spiritual support pillar.
• 24:42
  And that's when he volunteered me to help him put that together. And so we are putting together
• 24:50
  a global network of prayer warriors who will pray for the vaccine injuries. And this is a political,
• 25:00
  unfortunately, a political hot potato, even within the church, sadly. And I would say
• 25:10
  whatever your perspective is on the vaccine, whether you're pro vaccine or your anti vaccine,
• 25:16
  the fact of the matter is, is that people have been injured. That's the reality of it.
• 25:22
  And these people, these individuals feel shamed. They feel unacknowledged. They feel ignored.
• 25:30
  And as believers in Father Jesus Christ and as the church, we need to come alongside these people,
• 25:37
  acknowledge their situation, love them, pray for them, and give them encouragement and hope.
• 25:45
  Because there's a lot of unanswered questions for them on how to deal with this.
• 25:51
  And I know this is personal for you. And I've got a handful of folks within our congregation
• 25:59
  here that are injured and they're really struggling. And it's really tough when you have this
• 26:07
  situation and you have the medical community community for the most part telling them, hey, no,
• 26:13
  this is just anxiety. This is not an injury. And boy, that brings about hopelessness
• 26:23
  and because you know something's wrong. And what I've learned over the past few months is,
• 26:32
  you know, there's obviously a tremendous amount of people that have been injured.
• 26:35
  Myocarditis is one of the top symptoms, but there is over on average, on average,
• 26:43
  for a vaccine injury. There's over 20 different medical symptoms that they suffer from.
• 26:48
  And Naraphi being another big one that they suffer from. And so the good news is,
• 26:54
  React 19 is making a lot of progress and aligning themselves with doctors throughout the country
• 27:03
  and the world who are focused on developing treatment for people that are vaccine injured.
• 27:09
  And React 19 acts as kind of that vehicle to get people pointed in the right direction
• 27:17
  and help them. There's going to be some new medical clinics opening up.
• 27:23
  One in Texas, one in Florida, through React 19, where people can go,
• 27:28
  see doctors who are focused on treating them and getting them healthy again. And so it's a great
• 27:34
  organization, but I'm so glad that to be a part of the spiritual pillar and just provide encouragement
• 27:41
  and hope through prayer. That's important, David. Thank you for doing that. My wife has been affected.
• 27:46
  She, her families in Toronto, Canada, she had to take the vaccine to get over the border.
• 27:51
  And since then, we've had two years now of cognitive issues. They call it a cognitive neurological
• 27:57
  disorder, CND. And they say, well, it's just anxiety. You can have an antidepressant and go to
• 28:03
  the counseling. But that doesn't take care of the cause. And the major systems, the hospital systems,
• 28:10
  if they cannot start with the premise that the vaccine could have caused an injury that it's
• 28:16
  possible, they don't even admit that many of them. So there's injustice going on as well. But it's
• 28:21
  React 19.org friends. David, we've got to wrap it up already. And we've got to just mention the
• 28:26
  website for the men of Iron Conference Saturday, October 14. It is men of Iron Conference.org.
• 28:35
  We're excited. We're going to stir up the men. And hopefully we'll see a little change in
• 28:40
  at least in our neck of the woods in Northeast Wisconsin. Pastor Roth, thank you so much for
• 28:45
  being here. I will see you on the 14th, brother. Yes. Thank you, David. I really appreciate it.
• 28:52
  All right. God bless. Keep fighting the good fight as I know you will.
• 28:55
  Yeah. Thank you. You too. Thank you. All right, guys. Tomorrow on World View Matters,
• 29:01
  we've got the founder of Mission America, Linda Harvey, another troublemaker for the Kingdom of
• 29:06
  God. He's also got a talk show in Columbus, Ohio. But we're going to talk about the public school
• 29:11
  indoctrination and propaganda calendar. Yes, they do have a calendar. And you wouldn't believe
• 29:16
  what's on it, what they celebrate and highlight throughout the year. Linda Harvey tomorrow.
• 29:21
  Thanks, guys, for sharing and for subscribing. God bless you. And as always,
• 29:25
  keep speaking the truth about things that matter.