Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Trump bans CNN, MS NOW, Politico from White House
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Over the weekend, MSNOW, CNN and Politico say their reporters
- 0:04Speaker 1: were denied access to the White House. This comes as
- 0:07Speaker 1: President Trump said he was banning those outlets. Here's the
- 0:10Speaker 1: president defending his action.
- 0:12Speaker 2: The ban on the free press, right? A very simple ban.
- 0:18Speaker 2: I don't want them in my office. I don't want
- 0:20Speaker 2: them here. I would say the ban would go as
- 0:23Speaker 2: far as you can. And if they could straighten themselves out,
- 0:26Speaker 2: you know, if they could straighten themselves out, I'd love it.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Previous efforts by the president to ban the media were
- 0:32Speaker 1: blocked by federal judges. He addressed objections over First Amendment concerns.
- 0:37Speaker 1: The freedom of the press is enshrined in the First Amendment.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Are you trying to intimidate the press from doing its job?
- 0:44Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Joining me now, Weijia Jiang, CBS senior correspondent and my
- 0:51Speaker 1: predecessor as White House Correspondent Association president. Weijia, thank you
- 0:56Speaker 1: for being here. You have covered this president for many years.
- 1:00Speaker 1: You've seen many of his battles with the press. And
- 1:03Speaker 1: you were also just recently in the job that I'm
- 1:06Speaker 1: in now. So you have a unique understanding of what
- 1:08Speaker 1: this moment represents for all sides. Here's what Jonathan Turley
- 1:12Speaker 1: says about this moment.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Presidents have to be very careful in what they ask
- 1:19Speaker 3: for because you can create precedent that not only binds
- 1:23Speaker 3: your administration but future presidents.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Why should people outside of D.C., this D.C. media bubble,
- 1:31Speaker 1: care about whether these three outlets get banned from the
- 1:34Speaker 1: White House?
- 1:35Speaker 3: So I think we have to be very clear about
- 1:37Speaker 3: what this is and is not. This is not a
- 1:40Speaker 3: tantrum by three media outlets who are upset because they
- 1:44Speaker 3: can't get into the White House or the Oval Office.
- 1:47Speaker 3: This is a serious concern for the public, because an
- 1:52Speaker 3: attack on one outlet is an attack on everyone, no
- 1:55Speaker 3: matter where that outlet falls on the political spectrum. It
- 1:59Speaker 3: is limiting the amount of information that reporters inside can gather,
- 2:05Speaker 3: can excavate, to give back to the public, so that
- 2:08Speaker 3: people at home can make informed decisions, especially during an
- 2:13Speaker 3: election year. So, I understand when people point at journalists
- 2:18Speaker 3: and say, well, you know, it's not your right to
- 2:21Speaker 3: be inside the White House. But the problem, as Jonathan
- 2:25Speaker 3: just addressed, is that once you open up that access
- 2:28Speaker 3: for any news outlet, you can't take it away just
- 2:31Speaker 3: because you don't like what they are saying.
- 2:33Speaker 1: AMY GOODMAN- Some of the president's allies, as you mentioned,
- 2:35Speaker 1: are cheering this on. Those people agree with his criticisms
- 2:39Speaker 1: of his coverage. But what happens that those people should
- 2:43Speaker 1: keep in mind when the shoe is on the other
- 2:45Speaker 1: foot and maybe a Democrat is in the office, the
- 2:48Speaker 1: Oval Office? What does this precedent mean in practice?
- 2:52Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:52Speaker 3: And that is so important to point out. Look, every administration,
- 2:55Speaker 3: every president hates the press. There should be tension. We
- 2:59Speaker 3: wouldn't be doing our jobs, and neither would they, if
- 3:02Speaker 3: there wasn't that friction. But there is a reason why
- 3:05Speaker 3: this is unprecedented, why no other president has gone to
- 3:09Speaker 3: this length to kick certain outlets out. And that is
- 3:13Speaker 3: because it would set a precedent. It would draw a
- 3:17Speaker 3: red line there, and then, you know, who knows what's
- 3:19Speaker 3: to come for future administrations who might do the same
- 3:23Speaker 3: on the other side of it. So that's why it
- 3:26Speaker 3: is so worrisome. That's why, you know, every outlet, every reporter,
- 3:31Speaker 3: every member of the public who consumes the news should
- 3:34Speaker 3: be worried about this.
- 3:36Speaker 1: If covering the White House becomes invitation-only, what impact does
- 3:40Speaker 1: that have on the American people? If reporters come away
- 3:44Speaker 1: believing that if they ask a sensitive question, it could
- 3:47Speaker 1: cost them their badge— Let's be very clear.
- 3:50Speaker 3: It is an absolute privilege to cover the White House
- 3:53Speaker 3: and the president. And we don't take that for granted.
- 3:57Speaker 3: But when you start selecting who's allowed to do that,
- 4:00Speaker 3: the viewpoint shrinks and it doesn't represent, you know, the
- 4:06Speaker 3: the public. And that's what makes America so amazing, the
- 4:10Speaker 3: best country in the world, that we can have these
- 4:13Speaker 3: differing viewpoints, that we can disagree, that we can bring
- 4:17Speaker 3: different perspectives and different reporting to the table and allow
- 4:21Speaker 3: people who are watching it and reading it decide for themselves.
- 4:26Speaker 3: And so that's why it matters so much.
- 4:28Speaker 1: The president's defenders say that these reporters can still do
- 4:31Speaker 1: their jobs just outside of the gate. Describe what it
- 4:36Speaker 1: is that reporters can't do out there that they are
- 4:40Speaker 1: getting inside.
- 4:42Speaker 3: So, at the heart of what we do is building relationships, right?
- 4:46Speaker 3: Our currency is information. And so we can't just call
- 4:50Speaker 3: up a stranger and get information. and convince somebody to
- 4:54Speaker 3: talk to us about what's really going on with these
- 4:57Speaker 3: various issues that are so important right now. And so
- 5:01Speaker 3: when you are on campus, you can cultivate those relationships.
- 5:06Speaker 3: You can literally run into people just walking around on
- 5:10Speaker 3: the West Wing. And more importantly, I would say, You're
- 5:13Speaker 3: documenting history in real time. You're seeing with your own
- 5:16Speaker 3: eyes what the public can't see. We are there for
- 5:19Speaker 3: them to record, you know, body language, to record conversations,
- 5:25Speaker 3: to record even the tone in a room that we
- 5:28Speaker 3: can feel. And all of that context matters in our reporting.
- 5:34Speaker 3: And that's what we can't do from outside the gates.
- 5:37Speaker 1: And what you see sometimes might be at the edge
- 5:39Speaker 1: of the frame, might not be captured if, for instance,
- 5:43Speaker 1: the White House is running its own cameras. You know,
- 5:46Speaker 1: one of the outlets involved in this ban is part
- 5:48Speaker 1: of the Five Network Pool. That's the system that allows
- 5:51Speaker 1: the networks to share video of the president with the
- 5:53Speaker 1: whole country. If they aren't there, the pool can't function.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Right.
- 5:58Speaker 1: America doesn't have state TV. So what happens to the
- 6:02Speaker 1: historical record if coverage is no longer independent?
- 6:06Speaker 3: And America cannot have state TV. That's what makes America America.
- 6:10Speaker 3: That's why we need independent coverage. And that's why this
- 6:14Speaker 3: press pool system has been set up for so long
- 6:17Speaker 3: and why it works, because— You need independent actors to
- 6:22Speaker 3: be able to be the observers. And if the government
- 6:26Speaker 3: is only showing you what it wants, then you have
- 6:29Speaker 3: to question, what are we missing? And that's what the pool,
- 6:33Speaker 3: that's what these outlets bring.
- 6:34Speaker 1: To the table. Luja Jang, CBS News superstar, thank you
- 6:38Speaker 1: very much for joining us. Appreciate it.
- 6:40Speaker 3: Thank you, Jackie. We're lucky to have you right now
- 6:42Speaker 3: leading the charge.
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