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It takes a thief: Angels OF Jo Adell robs three home runs in one game · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, hey Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory.
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Speaker 1: I'm Mike D. Giovanna, former Early Time sports writer, and
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Speaker 1: I'm joined by my regular co host, Mark Trumbo, former
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Speaker 1: Angel slugger.
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Speaker 2: How you doing, Mark, all as well? Big win today,
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Speaker 2: a couple of big wins this series against the Seattle
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Speaker 2: Ball Club. You were there, Yeah, what did you see?
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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we are taping Sunday night. Just got back
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Speaker 1: from the game a little while ago. What I did
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Speaker 1: see was a massive swelling on the left hand of
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Speaker 1: Mike Trout. Trout took a ninety four mile an hour
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Speaker 1: fastball to that hand, the left hand, in the eighth inning,
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Speaker 1: and he said that thing swelled up so quickly that
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Speaker 1: by the time we got the first base he couldn't
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Speaker 1: get his batting glove off. Now, X Rays weord negative.
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Speaker 1: Kurtsuzuki's said they think they dodged a bullet, and he's
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Speaker 1: day to day. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't
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Speaker 1: in the lineup against the Braves Monday night. Maybe misses
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Speaker 1: a few games. He did say after the game that
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Speaker 1: he felt a little bit better, but he's really still
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Speaker 1: stinging from the way the Mariners pitched him in this game,
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Speaker 1: and as you recall, Friday night, Brian wu came up
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Speaker 1: and in with a fastball on his first pitch and
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Speaker 1: then hit him in the left shoulder on his second pitch,
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Speaker 1: and Trout said after today's game he knows tree teams
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Speaker 1: are trying to get him out with fastballs up and end,
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Speaker 1: but quote, if you can't control it up there, you
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Speaker 1: shouldn't do it. So it is what it is. Mark,
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Speaker 1: What do you think about the way the Mariners pitched
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Speaker 1: Trout in this series and maybe the way they're pitching
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Speaker 1: to him this season. I don't like it at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that up and in is not a
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Speaker 2: strategy that I endorse. Except for a very very select few.
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Speaker 2: I can just draw on my own experience. Uh well,
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Speaker 2: I've had quite a few. I've gotten hit plenty of times.
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Speaker 2: But I remember years ago Paul Goldschmidt, uh, kind of
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Speaker 2: a magnet for getting hit, and he wore a couple
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Speaker 2: up and in handy. I think he broke his hand
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Speaker 2: on one of them. And I do recall, uh that
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Speaker 2: our longtime first base coach very well respect in the league,
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Speaker 2: Dave McKay had some had a conversation with I think
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Speaker 2: Ray Honeycutt at the time, and you know, it was amicable,
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Speaker 2: but basically saying the same thing that Mike's saying. You
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Speaker 2: know that that that's a very you know, tough spot
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Speaker 2: to pitch a superstar player. Are the rules different for
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Speaker 2: certain players? You know what I think they are? And
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Speaker 2: a guy like Aaron Judge, guy like Troudy, you know,
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Speaker 2: this just happens over and over. Once WU did it
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Speaker 2: to begin this series, it looked, you know, really bad
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Speaker 2: because it was twice in a row. I guess he
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Speaker 2: issued a bit of a haul of you later. I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna take it taken for his word that it was sincere,
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Speaker 2: but that that basically for the rest of the series
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Speaker 2: up and in is off the table. In my opinion,
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Speaker 2: you just can't. You can't drill a guy like Mike
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Speaker 2: Trout multiple times. I know a number of fans wanted
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Speaker 2: to see some retaliation. I'm not a huge fan of
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Speaker 2: that myself. You know, years ago, when when you could
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Speaker 2: a little more leeway to slide into second that may
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Speaker 2: have been the way to you know, the Whitley's. Some teams,
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Speaker 2: our team try to get back at these guys, but
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Speaker 2: now you know it's it's really limited, and you know,
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Speaker 2: really the sometimes you you know, just have to you know,
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Speaker 2: Mike's not a guy that's going to charge them mount.
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Speaker 2: I doubt we'll ever see that. He was obviously frustrated.
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Speaker 2: You saw the hand. Yeah, it's not good for him,
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Speaker 2: it's not good for the team, it's not good for
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Speaker 2: the game. So, uh, Seattle, I think would benefit from,
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Speaker 2: you know, thinking about how they're going about it, because
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Speaker 2: that doesn't last long. Not you know, teams don't have
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Speaker 2: a big appetite for their star players getting crushed.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's turn our attention to what Kurtzuzuki called the
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Speaker 1: Joe Show Friday Night, and if you were in Angels Stadium,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to forget this game. Joe Adell. Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, one thing I've always enjoyed about covering
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Speaker 1: baseball for as long as I have is every year,
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Speaker 1: every year, you see something that you've never seen before.
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Speaker 1: You know, whether it's a triple play or a four
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Speaker 1: homer game, or I saw the Angels lose a game
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Speaker 1: once when Frankie Rodriguez was so ticked off about a
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Speaker 1: ball stripe call run around third up in Oakland, snaps
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Speaker 1: his glove at the pitch coming back from the catcher,
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Speaker 1: ball gets by him, squirts behind the mountain. The winning
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Speaker 1: run scores on a walk off gaff by Frankie. So
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Speaker 1: every year you see something that you've never seen before,
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Speaker 1: and I have never seen a player rob three home
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Speaker 1: runs in one game, including a spectacular diving catch over
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Speaker 1: the short wall near the right field foul pole in
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Speaker 1: the ninth inning to save Friday Nights one nothing victory.
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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen a picture, I'm not sure you've
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Speaker 1: been on social media for a while, but here's a
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Speaker 1: still shot of that catch. Mark. You've played right field
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Speaker 1: in Angels Stadium quite a bit. What would you say
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Speaker 1: is the degree of difficulty on a catch like that?
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Speaker 2: I can't believe it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been a good time for that one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was incredible. I think everyone's probably well aware.
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Speaker 2: If you're not, you know, good on you. It's everywhere.
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Speaker 2: I was mentioned a few times today during the broadcast,
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Speaker 2: and as it should be. You got guys like Tory Hunter,
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Speaker 2: who we had on our last episode. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 2: quite an interesting interview. If you guys get a chance
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Speaker 2: and haven't checked it out, might be worthwhile well, Tory said,
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Speaker 2: it's I believe the best defensive game he's he's seen.
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Speaker 2: He's seen a lot of baseball, and he's been the
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Speaker 2: guy that a lot of people probably would cite as being,
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Speaker 2: you know, a guy that is capable of those types
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Speaker 2: of plays routinely. And Joe did it three times in
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Speaker 2: one game, single handedly, really defeating the Mariners on his own.
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Speaker 2: That's three runs saved. I think he went from towards
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Speaker 2: the bottom on the defensive runs safe to possibly leading.
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Speaker 2: I believe he is leading. Yeah, so that's how quickly
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Speaker 2: things can turn. It looks like, you know, he's a
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Speaker 2: guy that has high energy. Seemed to be in the moment.
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Speaker 2: There was a great photo also they showed today, taken
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Speaker 2: from behind. Maybe he just showed it. If he did,
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Speaker 2: I'm not paying attention. Yeah, great shot by I don't
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Speaker 2: know who took it. I think they gave I think, yeah,
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Speaker 2: really really good job there, and that's iconic. I think
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Speaker 2: we'll see that for a long time to come. So
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Speaker 2: great job Joe. You know, we're really fortunate to get
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Speaker 2: to watch you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We caught up with Joe after the game and he
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Speaker 1: was pretty interesting talking about the kitch and you can
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Speaker 1: hear the excitement his voice. Let's as they say, go
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Speaker 1: to the videotape.
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Speaker 4: That was crazy, man. Just after the first one, we
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Speaker 4: were pretty fired up out there, and then got the
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Speaker 4: second one, which looked identical to the first one, and
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Speaker 4: I was like, wow, like my routes are on point tonight.
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Speaker 4: Then the third one was just just grit, just bottom
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Speaker 4: of the ninth, top of the ninth, getting it done.
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Speaker 4: So crazy?
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Speaker 1: Is that instinct?
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Speaker 5: Like but you have to dive over a wall, like
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Speaker 5: you mean even thinking that, I.
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Speaker 4: Mean, you just get there and then it's kind of
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Speaker 4: decision making. I think step one is just getting to
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Speaker 4: the spot and the ball say high enough where I
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Speaker 4: could get there and kind of looked similar a little
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Speaker 4: bit to the ball yesterday that bounced, but my position
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Speaker 4: was a little bit better and just got there and
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Speaker 4: was able to watch it all over and ended up
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Speaker 4: in somebody's up. I don't know who, but it's a
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Speaker 4: softer landing than I thought it would be, so kind
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Speaker 4: of crazy.
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Speaker 2: How much were the.
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Speaker 1: Fans broken up out day?
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Speaker 4: Was that?
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Speaker 2: How much are the fans company up out there in
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Speaker 2: right field?
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Speaker 4: They were fired up? I mean they were as fired
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Speaker 4: up as me, So that's all part of it.
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Speaker 1: We love that you've obviously put a lot of work
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Speaker 1: on your defense.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how rewarding isn'to Tevin Night like this after
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Speaker 2: what you've been through alf years.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously defense was something that I struggled
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Speaker 4: with when I first came up, and just finding ways
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Speaker 4: to improve and get better and find a way to learn.
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Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, I think defense
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Speaker 4: is one of those things where it's just about trying
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Speaker 4: to get the job done, doing what we can to
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Speaker 4: try to win. And you know, tonight we had a
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Speaker 4: tight one. These these last two games have been tight.
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Speaker 4: They've come to one run and just those plays. Sometimes
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Speaker 4: when you can have the opportunity, you just try to
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Speaker 4: go and make it happen. So very happy about it.
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Speaker 1: What do you think a forty hundred nine times go
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Speaker 1: glove winner calling at the best defensive game he's ever seen.
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Speaker 4: It's special. I said earlier he was sitting by my
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Speaker 4: locker up before the game, so I guess he must
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Speaker 4: have rubed something off where the game started. So appreciate that.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Halo Territory. I'm Mike d. Giovanna with
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Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo. And you know you have done something very
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Speaker 1: special when Tory Hunter, a nine time Gold Glove Award
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Speaker 1: winner nickname spider Man for his ability to scale walls,
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Speaker 1: calls your performance the greatest defensive game ever. So let's listen.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we had Toy as a guest and
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Speaker 1: we talked a lot about his work with the Joe Adell.
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Speaker 1: But let's say his reaction was almost as interesting as
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Speaker 1: Joe's reaction. Let's hear a little bit more from Tory Hunter,
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Speaker 1: who's at the game Friday night.
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Speaker 7: Three times in one game, never maybe two, maybe two,
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Speaker 7: but never never three. And I've never seen a guy
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Speaker 7: on a third with fall in the stands, catch the ball,
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Speaker 7: keep his feet in like he's a wide receiver and
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Speaker 7: uh and come up with the catch and uh.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 7: One thing about Joe, this guy listens. For the last
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Speaker 7: three years, he wanted to be better defensively. He he
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Speaker 7: actually called it out three years ago and he's just
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Speaker 7: been working and uh the work ethic that he's put
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Speaker 7: you know, put in his shows on the field. Uh
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Speaker 7: today of course, you know, on one of the biggest
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Speaker 7: stages in the Big League for the spring training. He's
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Speaker 7: been putting in work for years and uh, and man,
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Speaker 7: he looks really good out there. I was so excited
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Speaker 7: jumping up and down to the pressure. Almost passed. I
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Speaker 7: don't fifty, I can't be having that kind of It
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Speaker 7: was amazing, man that it was the greatest, probably the
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Speaker 7: greatest defensive game I've ever seen.
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Speaker 2: But you that last one was you think just that
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Speaker 2: what was your reaction when you saw him come up
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Speaker 2: to you know, put his club up after he caught.
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Speaker 7: In It was like from a movie scene. It's it's
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Speaker 7: as if the music was and then he caught the ball,
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Speaker 7: and then when he went down, we didn't see any
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Speaker 7: more than music, Paul, and then everybody and he came
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Speaker 7: up and say yeah, and everybody start chearing and almost
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Speaker 7: back blacked out. But just you know, not to take
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Speaker 7: it away from Joe. Man, I'm telling you guys, this
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Speaker 7: guy's were working his butt off defensively. He looks really good,
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Speaker 7: he looks confident, and after today, man, this guy's gotta
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Speaker 7: be you know, his stock had to go up today,
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Speaker 7: and because what I saw today was very impressive at
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Speaker 7: the plate, hit the ball hard, stay within himself, and
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Speaker 7: he helped the team win taking away three home runs.
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Speaker 7: I always say, man, I'd rather rob three home runs,
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Speaker 7: rob a home run than hit a home run. And
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Speaker 7: today I saw somebody rob three in one game. That's
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Speaker 7: never I don't think it's going to happen again.
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Speaker 1: He answered the call I praise, as they say now,
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Speaker 1: as Angel fans will remember, was not exactly a Gold
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Speaker 1: Glove candidate when he came up to the big League's
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Speaker 1: There's a famous play in Texas where he reached up
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Speaker 1: for a ball and the ball sport set of his
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Speaker 1: glove goes over the fence for a home run. But
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Speaker 1: you know, he's been fortunate to have to be able
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Speaker 1: to work with a guy like Tory Hunter in spring
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Speaker 1: training for the last few years. And Tory definitely rubbed
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Speaker 1: off on Joe Adell. And we're gonna hear a little
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Speaker 1: bit about exactly how a.
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Speaker 2: Few years now, how much is he impacted your development
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Speaker 2: in the outfield. It's been huge.
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Speaker 4: I think it's mental. When you're out there, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's a mindset of you know, going to get the
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Speaker 4: baseball being aggressive. I think defense Early on for me,
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Speaker 4: I felt like I was kind of caught in between
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Speaker 4: on a lot of plays, and sometimes that happens, and
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Speaker 4: that's part of the game. But just airing on the
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Speaker 4: side of being aggressive and trying to make the plays,
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Speaker 4: you'd be surprised how many you make. And that's kind
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Speaker 4: of our mindset. That's the mindset that he had for
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Speaker 4: all those years played in all those gold gloves. So
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Speaker 4: having somebody walk around like that and kind of give
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Speaker 4: you some insight and some of his knowledge is special.
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Speaker 5: Was it, Windy.
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Speaker 1: Mark? How's important is it as a young player, especially
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Speaker 1: to have mentors like Tory Hunter, you know, helping you
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Speaker 1: with all aspects of the game, but especially on defense.
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Speaker 2: It's invaluable to have a resource like him in particular,
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Speaker 2: you just are you're not going to find that elsewhere.
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Speaker 2: He's been there, he's done it. He can really relate.
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Speaker 2: That is the benefit of having ex players around. I
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Speaker 2: think that we are seeing some improvements in a number
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Speaker 2: of areas, and this staff is comprised largely of X
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Speaker 2: players ex managers, and Tory can not only tell you,
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Speaker 2: he can go out there and I'm assuming still demonstrate.
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Speaker 2: He'd you know about his age, but he doesn't look
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Speaker 2: a day older than when I played with him. You know,
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Speaker 2: he looks excellent, and I'm assuming he's still out there
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Speaker 2: with the glove playing cats, and you know he can
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Speaker 2: show you know, Okay, this is exactly how. It may
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Speaker 2: not be up to speed, but at least the technique.
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Speaker 2: And I've said at least once here before, I think
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Speaker 2: a lot of players are visual learners, so having a
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Speaker 2: guy that can literally demonstrate it for you could be
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Speaker 2: really valuable. I know that Joe talked about maybe being
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Speaker 2: a little in between early on, and he's now adopted
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Speaker 2: more of an aggressive mindset and it's really treated him well.
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Speaker 2: The Pro sports has played aggressively. If there's any passiveness
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Speaker 2: that will get exposed, and I think unfortunately early on
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Speaker 2: it did. And I don't know if that's entirely Joe's fault.
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Speaker 2: He was up awfully early in his career with he
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Speaker 2: did lack polish. And a question for you is is
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Speaker 2: that label, you know, is that the type of thing
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Speaker 2: that will follow a guy forever or at some point
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Speaker 2: does it become you know, this guy is capable and
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Speaker 2: those days are over.
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Speaker 1: I don't think it follows you forever. I know, I
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Speaker 1: mean back when I first started covering the Angels, Garrett Anderson,
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Speaker 1: he was known for not diving for baseballs. He was
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Speaker 1: very explicit on why he was a tall guy, not
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Speaker 1: the most athletic guy. He always felt if he started
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Speaker 1: diving around the outfield that he would get hurt, and
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Speaker 1: he didn't. You know, he's back then. He's a cleanup
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Speaker 1: batter on a championship caliber club. You don't want to
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Speaker 1: lose that bat. And I think he really he was
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Speaker 1: really hurt by the fact that he was often playing
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Speaker 1: left field next to Jim Edmunds, one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: most natural athletic, acrobatic center fielders in baseball history, let
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Speaker 1: alone Angel history, and darreners Dad, who would literally run
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Speaker 1: through a brick wall if he had to if it
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Speaker 1: meant saving a game. So Garrett kind of got attached
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Speaker 1: to that label. But you know he was. He got
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Speaker 1: really good at sliding, like Tim Salmon on sliding catches.
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Speaker 1: He had great rang She started taking better routes, and
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, by the middle of his career
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Speaker 1: he was a decent left fielder, even though he didn't
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Speaker 1: you know, rob a lot of home runs or dive
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Speaker 1: in the gaps or crash into walls. It's just that's
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Speaker 1: just the way he played. So it's a tough label
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Speaker 1: to overcome sometimes. I know some a lot of baseball
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Speaker 1: people always say, what does it take? Takes a minute
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Speaker 1: or a day to gain a reputation in a lifetime
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Speaker 1: to get rid of it, But you know, the game
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Speaker 1: does change. And Joe Adell was a Gold Glove finalist
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Speaker 1: two years ago in right field, and boy, he's off
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Speaker 1: to a good start this year. I do want to
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Speaker 1: end this segment on Joe Adell with something interesting that
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Speaker 1: manager Kurt Suzuki said after the game. Let's listen to
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Speaker 1: the quote and then I want to get your reaction
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Speaker 1: on it. Mark, how much of that third catch was athleticism?
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Speaker 1: How much is fearlessness?
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Speaker 3: You know? I think a lot of it was athleticism,
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Speaker 3: you know, but I think the one thing, you know,
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Speaker 3: talking to Joe, nooying Joe, is it's what he wants
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Speaker 3: to do to.
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Speaker 2: Help the ball to win.
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Speaker 3: You know, we talk about winning baseball players, right and
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Speaker 3: that right there shows you that, you know, it's all
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Speaker 3: about winning for him and what he can do to
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Speaker 3: help the team. And like I said, the makeup how
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Speaker 3: far he's come is pretty amazing.
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Speaker 1: And we're a week into this young season, and I mean, Joe,
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Speaker 1: he's lucky he didn't get hurt on that play. He
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Speaker 1: risked life and limb going into that crowd, and well,
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Speaker 1: you go into the fans, especially in New York and Boston,
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Speaker 1: you never know how you're gonna come out. What kind
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Speaker 1: of play like that do for a team? You know,
18:37
Speaker 1: that's just trying to find its way and gel And
18:40
Speaker 1: when you see a guy you know make an effort
18:43
Speaker 1: like that and basically save a game. Can that rub
18:47
Speaker 1: off on other players?
18:50
Speaker 2: How could it not?
18:52
Speaker 1: Yeah?
18:53
Speaker 2: I think it's the energy in the stadium goes up,
18:58
Speaker 2: the energy with your teammates, especially these pitchers that benefited from,
19:03
Speaker 2: you know, a run not attached to their name, a
19:06
Speaker 2: loss not attached to their name. You know, I think
19:10
Speaker 2: especially that last play, which was by far in a
19:13
Speaker 2: way to me, the most difficult of the bunch. But
19:17
Speaker 2: you know what, when you say, how do you do that?
19:19
Speaker 2: What else is there to do? I guess you know
19:22
Speaker 2: you know how bad it would look if you at
19:24
Speaker 2: least didn't make a decent effort. I think that now
19:30
Speaker 2: it requires a lot of athleticism. My cringe thinking what
19:34
Speaker 2: I would have tried to do there, But I would
19:36
Speaker 2: have put the effort in and you know I did.
19:39
Speaker 2: You know, this is not about me, but I did
19:41
Speaker 2: play right field, and I can just say that it
19:44
Speaker 2: takes a nice combination of just about everything to be
19:47
Speaker 2: able to actually pull it off. I don't know if
19:50
Speaker 2: and you can't. You know, gay metrics are quant of
19:55
Speaker 2: you know, who knows how many right fielders in the
19:56
Speaker 2: game make that play in that moment and get that
19:59
Speaker 2: kind of read because you got an excellent read on
20:01
Speaker 2: the ball too that that was one of the biggest things.
20:05
Speaker 2: Is left handed hitter too correct? It was Crawford. Crawford, Yeah,
20:08
Speaker 2: and I think I think it's harder with a left
20:11
Speaker 2: hander to get that read as well.
20:13
Speaker 1: The polls balls hooking away from him. But he did
20:16
Speaker 1: have a ball like that in Friday Night Scam which
20:18
Speaker 1: he didn't catch, and it was very similar in trajectory
20:21
Speaker 1: and I think not that he benefited from it, but
20:24
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of he knows the way around
20:26
Speaker 1: that corner and boy, that low wall. You think, okay,
20:29
Speaker 1: maybe it's easier to rob a home run over a
20:31
Speaker 1: lower wall. But to me, that's where you can really
20:34
Speaker 1: risk injury. The risk factor goes up even higher. Is
20:37
Speaker 1: Joe's a big six foot three, you know, dude, and
20:41
Speaker 1: you know you go over a wall that low and
20:43
Speaker 1: you could flip over and hit your head. So just
20:45
Speaker 1: a great catch, a great game, and one that Angel
20:49
Speaker 1: fans and Joe ad will remember for a long time.
20:53
Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention to another pretty solid performer early
20:56
Speaker 1: in the season for the Angels. That's Lee det Meers,
20:58
Speaker 1: who is making that transition from the bullpen to the rotation.
21:03
Speaker 1: Through six and two thirds scoreless innings with three hits,
21:08
Speaker 1: four walks, four strikeouts Friday nighting on some Mariners, and
21:12
Speaker 1: he did give up three and runs in his first
21:15
Speaker 1: game in Houston, but he strikes out nine, walks none.
21:19
Speaker 1: He just seems to be attacking guys, which he did
21:23
Speaker 1: very well out of the bullpen last year. What are
21:25
Speaker 1: you seeing from Deptvers right now? I know it's only
21:28
Speaker 1: two starts, but is what you're seeing encouraging?
21:32
Speaker 2: It is encouraging, trending in the right direction for sure.
21:36
Speaker 2: This last start, especially the four strikeouts, surprised me a
21:40
Speaker 2: little bit. It seemed like more they didn't really seem
21:45
Speaker 2: to be onto him. I think that the big key
21:47
Speaker 2: for Reed is going to be the pitch count. He
21:49
Speaker 2: threw one hundred and four pitches, but he threw six
21:52
Speaker 2: and two thirds, so that's really going to help. And
21:54
Speaker 2: I think, you know, our bullpen is it's been quite
21:59
Speaker 2: quite good, but it's going to be a difficult thing
22:05
Speaker 2: to keep up, if you know. Unfortunately, today was another
22:08
Speaker 2: short start for a young George Klassen, you know, debut
22:12
Speaker 2: with very short notice. What can you really expect. I
22:16
Speaker 2: really like his stuff. I'm high on him, and I
22:19
Speaker 2: think that he will be just fine. Emmer's he through
22:21
Speaker 2: sixty one percent strikes, so I think that's a metric
22:24
Speaker 2: that I will personally be keeping track of because I
22:28
Speaker 2: think for him, you know, I'm trying to get fifteen
22:30
Speaker 2: pitches or less per inning would be a really good goal.
22:35
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple guys that would benefit from that,
22:40
Speaker 2: maybe another left handed starter as well, but easier said
22:45
Speaker 2: than done. I think a lot of it comes down
22:47
Speaker 2: to the misses with some of these guys, like Read
22:50
Speaker 2: in particular, the misses that are really just not competitive,
22:54
Speaker 2: that are balls out of the hand that the hitter
22:57
Speaker 2: doesn't flinch on and it really doesn't set up the
22:59
Speaker 2: pitch to follow. So the more that he can limit
23:02
Speaker 2: those and that's what Soreano's doing such an excellent job.
23:05
Speaker 2: Everything is presenting is about the same pitch. The tunneling
23:08
Speaker 2: would be the word I used today, and then you know,
23:11
Speaker 2: either it's upper nineties heat or a devastating knuckle curve.
23:17
Speaker 2: And he's got four pitches now, Soreano that is and
23:21
Speaker 2: read is pitching as well with a new changeup. He
23:24
Speaker 2: I guess splirted with a split. Didn't really take to it.
23:27
Speaker 2: Not everybody does. It's it's you know, requires a different
23:30
Speaker 2: grip and a lot of times pitchers can tip that too,
23:33
Speaker 2: and that's a big deal. When your glove gets bigger,
23:35
Speaker 2: Biggley hitters will notice that quickly. So it looks like
23:39
Speaker 2: just a little bit of a modified change up and
23:41
Speaker 2: that's promising, so really nice to see. Uh do you
23:44
Speaker 2: want to?
23:45
Speaker 1: Khanowitz also, yeah, he looked okay the other night. What
23:49
Speaker 1: were you seeing from him?
23:52
Speaker 2: He's got a new repertoire Gooby covered it. He did
23:54
Speaker 2: a nice rundown I think before his first start, made
23:57
Speaker 2: some tweaks over the off season. He's more upright. He's
24:01
Speaker 2: a tall guy.
24:01
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any person very I walked by him today.
24:04
Speaker 1: I didn't remember him being that tall, but yeah, he
24:06
Speaker 1: is a super tall.
24:07
Speaker 2: Guy, six seven, I think. Yeah. So I think he's
24:10
Speaker 2: tried to improve really using that to his advantage, his extension.
24:14
Speaker 2: I see far less of the sinker. He had a defined,
24:17
Speaker 2: big sinker previous years. But I was kind of worried
24:21
Speaker 2: because I did like that pitch a lot. But you know,
24:24
Speaker 2: his new repertoire seems a little bit more for seam
24:28
Speaker 2: and he's got, you know, pitching with a much better
24:30
Speaker 2: breaking ball than he had previously. He had seven k's
24:34
Speaker 2: and twelve whiffs. He was a guy that didn't generate
24:36
Speaker 2: much swing and miss, and in today's game, it's all
24:39
Speaker 2: the rage. I don't you know. I like contact for
24:42
Speaker 2: a lot of guys, quick outs is good, but for him,
24:45
Speaker 2: maybe there was too much contact, too much solid contact.
24:48
Speaker 2: And this is good. Eighty six pitches, seventy percent strikes
24:51
Speaker 2: in his outing, and he went pretty deep in the game,
24:54
Speaker 2: at least for the modern game. Five and two thirds
24:57
Speaker 2: is a good start.
24:59
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the bullpen, and then one guy who's
25:01
Speaker 1: really emerged there, converted starter Chase Silpseeth. He seems to
25:07
Speaker 1: be really latching onto the stopper role, which, as we know,
25:11
Speaker 1: the fireman stopper role, guys coming in with runners on.
25:15
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's not the glamorous closer position, maybe
25:18
Speaker 1: not even the setup guy, but it's a huge position
25:22
Speaker 1: in any bullpen. He's pitched in six games already, hasn't
25:25
Speaker 1: given up a run in four and third innings. He's
25:28
Speaker 1: given up two hits, one walk, five strikeouts. It's I hate,
25:33
Speaker 1: you know, you use the term bulldog. You don't want
25:36
Speaker 1: to just throw it around that easily. But he seems
25:39
Speaker 1: to have a little different mentality out there right now.
25:41
Speaker 1: Is that what you're seeing?
25:43
Speaker 2: Big time? Looks like a new guy, very aggressive. I
25:47
Speaker 2: think he's always been somewhat of a high energy guy,
25:49
Speaker 2: but maybe you know, if the results aren't there, it
25:53
Speaker 2: doesn't always look that great, you know, but it'll be
25:57
Speaker 2: out there. He's not he's not showbot. He's not good aggressiveness,
26:01
Speaker 2: uh and good emotion. So you know, he was a
26:05
Speaker 2: guy that I quite honestly, I didn't know if he
26:07
Speaker 2: was a lot to make the team. And based on
26:10
Speaker 2: previous years, he's more of a long relief kind of
26:12
Speaker 2: mop up and I think, what was it opening days
26:16
Speaker 2: pitching high leverage to Jordon Alvarez.
26:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
26:21
Speaker 2: This is huge for the team. I have to think
26:24
Speaker 2: that either some work he did in the off season,
26:27
Speaker 2: but more likely Mike Maddocks maybe was able to or
26:30
Speaker 2: someone else. You know, maybe you could ask if you're there,
26:34
Speaker 2: But you know, this is great for the club. If
26:37
Speaker 2: he you know, another guy that capable of getting outs
26:39
Speaker 2: and crunch time, that's that's a good thing. That's not
26:42
Speaker 2: that's not a problem. So good for good for Chase.
26:45
Speaker 5: Uh.
26:46
Speaker 2: You know, I've liked his stuff all along. He was
26:48
Speaker 2: kind of flirting around with starting and you know, didn't
26:51
Speaker 2: have a defined role and struggled sent back down. You know,
26:54
Speaker 2: I think it'd be great if he never went back.
26:56
Speaker 1: Down and you're pick to click going into the isn't
27:00
Speaker 1: as we all know, is Sam Bachman. Then, boy, he
27:02
Speaker 1: looked dominant in the eighth inning today. He struck out
27:05
Speaker 1: a guy with one hundred mile an hour fastball. I
27:08
Speaker 1: think he made a little mistake with his second pitch.
27:12
Speaker 1: He threw a slider that Rodriguez hit for the game time.
27:16
Speaker 1: Hitting the ninth tough luck with cal Rawley with a
27:20
Speaker 1: little blue DNK double down the left field line to
27:23
Speaker 1: get in score and position to tie the game. But
27:26
Speaker 1: you got to like what you're seeing out of this kid.
27:27
Speaker 1: I don't you know, these roles are very fluid right now.
27:31
Speaker 1: They're still waiting for Ben Joyce to come back. But
27:36
Speaker 1: how you know, Sam Bachman seems to have really established
27:38
Speaker 1: himself as well.
27:40
Speaker 2: I've talked about Samy gonna think I'm a homer. For Sam,
27:43
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. He will give up some runs,
27:47
Speaker 2: but you know, he had one hundred and one today.
27:49
Speaker 2: I think he did it on consecutive pitches, so that,
27:53
Speaker 2: to me, he has to indicate that he's probably feeling
27:55
Speaker 2: pretty good. He does have wipeout stuff. Here's you know,
27:58
Speaker 2: if I have to assume it's max effort right now,
28:01
Speaker 2: and with that, you know the command. Some guys do
28:06
Speaker 2: benefit from the max effort. Their command actually gets better.
28:09
Speaker 2: Some guys maybe a little of the opposite. I think
28:12
Speaker 2: his command could be a little bit better. But when
28:14
Speaker 2: you're throwing that hard with a wipeout slider, sometimes it
28:17
Speaker 2: really doesn't matter. You're just looking for strikes. How about
28:20
Speaker 2: Jordan Romano. You say, yeah, well there you go.
28:26
Speaker 1: Well I did want to I did want to close
28:29
Speaker 1: the show with the de facto closer. Yeah, he's with
28:35
Speaker 1: four and two thirds innings in five games already. He
28:39
Speaker 1: hasn't given up a run, seven strikeouts, two walks, three
28:43
Speaker 1: for three and save opportunities. Now, his fastball, you know,
28:46
Speaker 1: he was hurt for a couple of years. His fastball
28:49
Speaker 1: is up around ninety five ninety six, not quite in
28:53
Speaker 1: that ninety six ninety seven range that it was a
28:55
Speaker 1: few years ago, but he seems to be pitching pretty
28:58
Speaker 1: effectively with it and the slide. He's opponent Opposing hitters
29:03
Speaker 1: are oh for eight in at bats ending in the slider.
29:07
Speaker 1: So I mean he's basically a two pitch guy as
29:10
Speaker 1: a closer. But you have to like what you're seeing
29:13
Speaker 1: out of him right now.
29:15
Speaker 2: Well, closers don't need three pitches. I remember a great
29:19
Speaker 2: Angel closer maybe on that two team. I think he
29:21
Speaker 2: lived off of you know, I showed me breaking ball,
29:24
Speaker 2: but it was the old country hardball. But Romanoy, I promised,
29:31
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anything about a lack of
29:33
Speaker 2: whatever in camp. But I didn't know what to expect
29:39
Speaker 2: and you know, this guy is really impressed. He I
29:42
Speaker 2: saw a note I think Wayne Rendezo mentioned Orgoobi, one
29:46
Speaker 2: of the two, probably Wayne that Jordan indicated it feels
29:49
Speaker 2: healthy for the first time in a long time, and
29:52
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. His stuff. Okay, so he's not
29:54
Speaker 2: throwing a hundred. I couldn't care less. That stuff looks
29:58
Speaker 2: like it is playing. The thing is, the velocity is
30:02
Speaker 2: only as relevant as how well you hide the ball,
30:04
Speaker 2: and he does a very good job of hiding the ball.
30:07
Speaker 2: It looks like hitters are not getting a good look,
30:09
Speaker 2: and that slider is you know, everything is downhill, and
30:13
Speaker 2: so hitters are having a tough time catching up to
30:16
Speaker 2: the fastball. It looks like they're prone to cheating and
30:18
Speaker 2: then they're just dead in the water. On the slider,
30:21
Speaker 2: You're gonna see a lot of awkward swings and misses,
30:24
Speaker 2: a lot of whiffs. He should really rack up punch
30:27
Speaker 2: outs in a hurry. Keeping that up. I have a
30:30
Speaker 2: couple more notes if we have a little sliver of time.
30:34
Speaker 2: Logan o' hoppy. Really nice series behind the plate. He's
30:39
Speaker 2: been exceptional on challenging pitches. His hitting is he's put
30:45
Speaker 2: some together, some nice at bats together, some solid contact.
30:49
Speaker 2: But what I really like about him is it's not
30:51
Speaker 2: you know, if the hits aren't following, it doesn't seem
30:54
Speaker 2: to be affecting the catching one bit. He's been on
30:56
Speaker 2: the same page with all of these guys today. I'm
31:00
Speaker 2: not sure anyone would have you gotten a lot more
31:02
Speaker 2: out of you know, class was really amped up and
31:04
Speaker 2: that's fine, but really nice job by by Logan this series,
31:09
Speaker 2: so that that's very promising. And Steven Smith one of
31:12
Speaker 2: our regular viewers. You know, he keeps me updated and
31:16
Speaker 2: he ran a website and for a long time on
31:18
Speaker 2: the Angels for I was there. Uh so three pitchers,
31:22
Speaker 2: we're gonna get it in quick. Dylan Jordan pitching for
31:24
Speaker 2: Ranch with Amonga Quakes. Five innings, pitch struck out eight,
31:28
Speaker 2: three hits, sixty six percent strikes. He's got a real
31:31
Speaker 2: crossfire delivery. I got a good look at some of
31:33
Speaker 2: the video and a nasty slater. He looks very, very
31:36
Speaker 2: tough to hit. He was a guy that slot or
31:38
Speaker 2: signed for a million two or something, so overslot but
31:43
Speaker 2: very promising. Arm I right, he looks like a nightmare
31:45
Speaker 2: for right handed hitters.
31:47
Speaker 3: Uh.
31:48
Speaker 2: Trey Gregory Alford another guy that I think we signed
31:50
Speaker 2: for overslot. I know we did. Actually he was up
31:54
Speaker 2: to one hundred and one. He's got a huge fastball.
31:56
Speaker 2: He through five innings zero runs. Basically everyone's giving up
32:00
Speaker 2: zero run so far. Tyler Bremner, second overall pick last year,
32:04
Speaker 2: debuted three innings, pitch six, k's ninety six, ninety eight,
32:08
Speaker 2: touch ninety nine. It's also got the plus change up
32:10
Speaker 2: so that Tri City team is stocked with flamethrowers. Rancho's
32:14
Speaker 2: got a bunch of studs, and you know that's going
32:17
Speaker 2: to be really interesting in the trash pandas you need
32:19
Speaker 2: to look into that a little bit more, maybe a
32:21
Speaker 2: little bit lighter there. And salt Lake, you're gonna mention
32:25
Speaker 2: it friend of mine, Trey Mancini with a homer today
32:28
Speaker 2: three eighteen average nine one hundred ops. Christian Morrison playing
32:32
Speaker 2: third base as well. And I need one last answer
32:35
Speaker 2: out of you. What you know you've done this a
32:38
Speaker 2: long time. What did you think of Randy Rosaran's throw
32:41
Speaker 2: at there at the end to try and on Nolan's sackfly.
32:46
Speaker 2: Did that look a good throw to you?
32:48
Speaker 1: It was not a good throw and it tailed immensely
32:50
Speaker 1: up the third base side, and Tory Munter talked about
32:53
Speaker 1: this on our show the other day. If you want
32:55
Speaker 1: to make an accurate show throw, it's better to one
32:58
Speaker 1: hop it.
32:59
Speaker 3: Now.
32:59
Speaker 1: Granted he had the benefit of playing on that Minnesota
33:02
Speaker 1: astrotur from the Metro Dome all those years, and you're
33:04
Speaker 1: going to get a truer hot, but you just don't
33:07
Speaker 1: give yourself a real chance when you airmail the throw
33:10
Speaker 1: like he did. I haven't seen him a ton in
33:13
Speaker 1: the outfield. I don't know if his throw naturally tails
33:15
Speaker 1: as much as it did, but.
33:20
Speaker 2: Arm that was. That was a dying quail that Yeah,
33:23
Speaker 2: you know, anybody you and I would have scored.
33:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shanwell's ball was medium left field at best. Yeah,
33:32
Speaker 1: it was almost you could almost call a shallow to medium.
33:34
Speaker 1: I thought when he caught the ball, he definitely had
33:38
Speaker 1: a chance. And then as the ball's coming in and
33:40
Speaker 1: we're kind of right behind that, you know, the third baseline,
33:44
Speaker 1: and you could see it just go up and up
33:46
Speaker 1: and up, and Riley had I think he got a
33:48
Speaker 1: glove on it, but he had no chance of tagging.
33:50
Speaker 1: So heck of a finish.
33:52
Speaker 2: One last thing, why has low been removed late? In
33:55
Speaker 2: the game. Do we know that.
33:57
Speaker 1: I think they just like, yeah, they liked Tiodo's see
34:00
Speaker 1: you out there a little more defensively. And of course
34:03
Speaker 1: today Mike left the game in the eighth inning, so
34:05
Speaker 1: but I think they removed Low before that. So they've
34:08
Speaker 1: been doing you know, Cris been doing that. He's been
34:11
Speaker 1: removing I am a.
34:14
Speaker 2: Little surprised, but there's gotta be a reason.
34:16
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's certainly it's defensive at this point. All right,
34:20
Speaker 1: We're going to close the show with that and with
34:22
Speaker 1: the shout out to Steven Smith. Always good to hear
34:26
Speaker 1: hear from him. And that's all for today. We'll see
34:29
Speaker 1: you next time on Halo Territory.