Latest / You Don't Know Ball Podcast / Episode 116: Can Kinnick Stadium and Iowa strike again? Kemario vs Keelon!!đŸ”¥Michigan bounce back?
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- Isaac Rowe: What's going on, you don't know ball podcast nation? Welcome back to the show. pretty eventful weekend for for for a lot of us actually. So I don't know if we want to get right into the pickups and then go into Alex's instant reaction or Well shit. I'm personally excited to hear about the reaction. All right, Alex. How about we how about we start over there? How you how you feeling, bud? How you feeling? Bud is good. How you feeling, kiddo? How you feeling, champ? Well Yeah, that happened. Western Live by the sword, die by the sword, man. I mean it's not it's not it's not every season you have two buzzer beaters and but g each go both ways, so you know. I was a little frustrated, but my one year old niece was over, so I had to keep it in contained. Keep the Hulk keep the Hulk in. God. So she didn't learn anything. So what did you end up saying? I s well, this is how happened. I saw the so this is right after the batted Bob little catch, whatever. The Iowa tight end caught after like deflections, everything. I kind of thought it was over then. I like, well if they're catching that, it's over. But then Emma, my wife, she like She's like, it's okay. She had the Arnice in her hands. She's like, It's okay, Michigan's gonna win. As soon as she said that, the ball was snapped. And I'm like You're jinxed it. It's over. And I just see the fade and I'm like hell. Yeah. For the love of God. She's like, she's like, no, it's incomplete. And I literally see the ref just put his hands up as a touchdown. I'm like, You're right, talking your knees, dude. Start choking at your knees. Yeah. It's really nice outside. You should all go outside right now. Dude, dude. Evacuate the building. I evacuate the building. Yeah. I was like Spider-Man No Way home reference. Get everybody out. Brand new day. I was pretty I was pretty whatever the that movie is. Give it give me a right. Give me a break. yeah, this week it got a sucked. But Michigan State lost, so that's win. So always hate watching Michigan State. I'll always hate watching them. But you know, you know, I was pretty frustrated. But honestly, I'll take that loss because I was not like a annoying ass fan base to lose to. Like, yeah, they won. Whatever. Congrats, I guess, but I can't blame it on Bryce. Also it's a good game. Like if you're gonna lose by one point, you know, you'd rather do it to a team that is one ranking behind you and the ranking behind No, they were before us. they were one ahead? wow. but that was that was I mean just looking at that play, I couldn't believe like Iowa won it. Not only am I happy for my pick'ems, but also the hearing the call did you guys hear the student call? No, I didn't hear the student call. No, he was like he was like Western Michigan and college football as a whole. Iowa has your back or something like No, give me a break. And dude, low key I got goosebumps yesterday seeing that. I'm like rotting on the couch. I'm like, nice. Well they showed they showed a guy that said Western won. It was an Iowa fan that had a sign that was like Western won that Western won the game or whatever. I'm like Is this really gonna is this really gonna happen again? Like are we gonna really lose this game? But Michigan what doesn't make sense is that Michigan dominated. Like if you look at the stat line, Bryce Underwood played his best game ever as a Wolverine. Yeah. the run game was there. The pass game finally showed up with two of our best receivers that couldn't get drop a damn ball on the the entire game. And Yeah, we just played man defense on the final play of the game. Yeah, you guys had a QB spy on highways quarterback on the last play of the game. Yeah. Like he was gonna run it with two seconds left. Fifteen yards, two seconds left. QB spy. It was literally the most. They took a page out of Western's book. They're like, yeah, let's rush all our guys on the tailmaker. Pretty much, yeah, that's what happened. That was the most like simple route and throw I've ever seen. It was timed, yeah. He didn't even hold X down. No, we're doing a lobby pass. It was a lobby. It was a lob. I I if you're Eli Snowden, how do you let that happen? Smith Snowden. Smith Snowden or whatever his name is. Seriously, how do you even let that happen? It's like the easiest pass you could have done. It's the easiest route I think I've seen for a game winning touchdown. Easiest catch at this point. Yeah, it is. I mean it wasn't I don't know. The safety safety could have been over there a little bit. I mean we I don't think I don't think there was another I don't think the quarterback had a other receiver to throw to. I think that was a fade ball to the be one of the best receivers for the win. You know what I mean? Honestly, if you're a defensive coordinator, I'm just standing all my guys at the at the And I'm having one rusher. That's it. One rusher. Well, it would it wouldn't even let's go back to before that play even happened. John Henry Daly literally so when the first when the tight end caught the ball and down at the twenty or whatever and they were donna spike they were gonna go up to the line and go either run another play, dude. He was literally gonna spike it, which means that if they spiked that, the game was over. But John Henry Daly got hurt and is a bitch and he stayed on the field. And yeah, we lost. How do does do you even know what the injury was or no? No. I'm pretty sure he just had cramping and costing the game. Yeah, that's that's Gold my legs! That's what I that's exactly what I was gonna say. Yeah. I I mean if you're a Michigan fan, it hurts, but yeah, I feel like you come out of this game like feeling a little bit better. About offensively, yes, I do feel a lot better. But even though we only scored 19 points, but you could just see You can see the progression. Like we've left three obviously we left three point six points left on the table with Bright Bryce's only pick, which is a miscommunication between him and the receiver. Marsh. And then the fourth and one stop, which it's tough. Sucks. So it could have been twenty five twenty, but it wasn't. Yeah actually it could have been you guys could have been winning by ten points if you didn't give up that kick return too. And the kick return kinda sucks. That blew that. Kind of kept the man. Yep. It sucked. I only seen Iowa beat up Michigan twice in my lifetime though. And it's the last time I saw it was in twenty sixteen. So Well, Iowa hosts Ohio State this weekend in Connect Stadium, so it'll be gotta imagine the hype for that game. So is you don't know ball. Yeah. Surprise that you all is going on the trailer. Be a successful hate watch for us if we went five, six hour drive, baby. No, that'll be a really good game. Sneaky game. obviously I see that Kayla put it on our slate of games to pick later, so we'll talk about it in a bit. yeah, actually that's pretty much all I had from that Michigan game. It was just congrats, Iowa. I mean, I'm not gonna be a piss poor sport about it. They they were the better team that's still wearing your Michigan jersey though? This isn't for them. This is for a different reason. Okay. UCLA though. UCLA kicked ass. I loved it. I loved every second of it. And I think I loved that what I saw out of their defense, especially there was way more pressure on pass rushing and everything. Purdue's quarterback play the week before compared to Malik Washington's play is like night and day. 'cause Malik Washington just looked like he couldn't do anything out there. not only is he just also still a young quarterback, he's like a sophomore, and I'm pretty sure Maryland's probably gotta have one of the youngest teams in the Big Ten. They're just not a hot spot for transfers and you know, high level recruits out of high school anyway. So they're not that great of a big ten team, but they're only compare Purdue's performance to Maryland's, UCLA's defense played so much better. The tackling was better. They were more aggressive on pass and edge rushing. offense still looks incredible. All three running backs could be in play for like big ten running back of the year. Wayne Knight, I love you. Nico, keep doing what you're doing. And they just I mean, this team like The discipline and just like the the high level like chess match stuff that Bob Chesney's doing is is awesome to see. Like impressive. There's a lot of direct snaps to the running back and the running back will fake handoff to the QB and then pitch it. Like all that's insane. They'll constantly go on two first sound. They got Maryland to jump a couple of times. Like at the end of the quarter, they got they got him to jump. So just watching all that is like so great to see. Yeah. And the fact that they're ranked now is like great. So who knows what I mean probably not gonna be ranked at the end of this week. I forgot to put the game on the pick Who do they Oregon. They're going to Eugene. They could win that game. They could absolutely win that game. I know. I'm I'm I mean I You want me to throw it on? I can't edit it. Never mind. we'll we'll we'll predict for it. But yeah, I mean I'd I'm not gonna sit here and say like, I think we're gonna win, but now this game just got a lot more interesting, especially compared to what People might have thought of it when they were looking at Oregon or UCLA's schedule. Well, they won't have UCLA seriously might play like death for Oregon this week. Like Oregon now, I mean, I'm definitely scared 'cause Oregon's gonna be playing for their lives at this point. Cause if UCLA beats them, they're screwed. Like this is it sucks that it's in UG and I would love to have UCLA hosting this one. But the fact they're both ranked now at this point in the season. You could you could have never guessed it, but I'm I'm a very happy camper. Yeah. As a UCLA fan right now. So I y Nico just needs to improve on his deep ball. But you know football though. Something with a week of practice and everything. As long as our run game stays solid, like Oregon's pat or Oregon's like D line was said to be one of the best in the country. We'll see how it stacks up against U C L A's offensive line, who I would argue is one of the best in the country at this point. Like with how much success we're having running the ball, we're not playing like cupcake opponents either. So No, I mean I honestly th there's no one that you've played that's proven to stop the run. And it's not like you guys are playing cupcakes either. Maryland was supposed to be that game was like a three and a half point spread when it was first brought up and you guys won by fifty one points. Yeah. Like that's ridiculous. Yeah. So dude, like the pick six is too and everything, like the second like the it was just the most team effort I've ever seen out of a team I root for ever. Maybe besides Lions versus Titans like two years ago. But 'cause that game was bad. You beat them by like sixty. But yeah, I just love seeing you know, I just love seeing the team play as a team and just absolute domination. Like I love to see the other team's quarterback just look so distraught and upset at himself. I love to see that. So gosh. I hope we can do it to Bryce Underwood. Do you miss Do you miss New Highsville? I know, and I'm not going either. I'm pissed. Are they at are they home, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope it's like I should try to get my eye out of that game. Sure. You know, I hope it's like Wait, why aren't you going? We'll be in Disney World. okay. We're going to Disney World. no. I hope it's just like forty two degrees snowing. I I don't even know if it I don't even know if you would wish for that 'cause well that's just so far down the road, but UCLA's got a good run game. True. So I guess it'll still be tough though. We'll see how happens. I don't know if them boys can handle the cold though. Them California a couple of years ago. Yeah, but that was that was Sep that's different. That's different, man. That's that's that's just Kurt. Yeah, that's just six. You missed New Heisel yet? K City. What? You missed New Heis well yet, or whatever that guy's name was. Offensive coordinator? Bob Chesney's a step up, honestly, with his play calling. Like there there's last year they did a lot of Wildcat stuff too. And I think they kind of brought that into this year, and it's even better. Yeah. Honestly. Like Gary or Jerry Newheisel, like he he kinda lost his aura after after the win streak ended. Yeah. Like I think I think we took a big loss and then teams maybe started to figure it out. Maybe some injuries were in there. I don't really remember after that. I'm kind of still stuck in that bliss of those three weeks from last year. but New Heisel. I don't I wonder where he's at now. I have no idea. he is with man, where did he I I know he's said the colors of the team. Do you know him? I I thought for a second it was with Northwestern. Let me see. that might actually be true. Isn't it Chip Kelly? Yeah, it's Chip Kelly. But but he he probably hasn't could be a quarterback coach. That'd be sweet. But if he is a quarterback coach, he did a hell of a job. Yeah, that was a good game. Maybe we could segue into that. Yeah, how d how do they make that how do they make that look good? Aiden Giles a Heisman candidate? How do they make Aiden Giles? my gosh. No, it's I need to rewatch that game tomorrow. Twenty nine twenty five. What is that c what is the Ju Jerry what? New Hyman? New Heisel. New Heisel. What twenty nine twenty two? Dude was Indiana Northwestern. It was in Northwestern's new stadium too, wasn't it? It was away. He's with Northwestern. Okay. So he lost by a score. And that for in for Northwestern, I was specifically surprised about how Aiden Childs played that game. I was watching that game at Burdicks and I was like, Is this the same Aiden Childs I was watching a season ago? He was literal dog shit at Michigan State. And he was throwing he was throwing dots. Yeah, you couldn't stop him. Right. You look like Lamar Jackson in college for two and a half. Did you see did you see that he like his his finger literally got dis dislocated, dislocated, and he gets it popped back in, gets back into the game, and throws a dart in the back of the end zone for a touchdown? I'm like, what the hell is going on? He's like, there's no way this is Aiden Charles from Michigan State. And dude, hats off to him. He Jerry is the quarterback coach. He played ridiculously good for against Indiana. Indiana still got the win. But Indiana didn't look that great in my opinion, especially that second half. I mean the first Their run game was nuts though. Yeah. BB Jr. Yeah, he was good. Well hey, I had like almost two hundred yards rush. Did that running back that got hurt come back or not? Turbo retro he'll be fine. He they say he didn't come back, but he didn't he's not hurt too bad. I think he'll be back next week. But they play? I don't know. I don't know who Indiana plays, but I just know that they they ran the ball good last week, but they didn't Play overwhelmingly like Awesome. Like, no, they should have beat the wheels off. No. Should have. they play Ructors. okay. Trap game, trap game. Right. Ructors. You never know, man. You just never know. Ruckers might make that one. Remember when that game was like the dump versus dump? Garbage versus trash, like stuff like that. No, but honestly Meatball Sub versus tuna sandwich. If I know Kurt Signetti, he's gonna figure He's gonna fix these problems. Josh Hoover obviously didn't have his best game passing yes on Friday night, but who knows? So maybe they overlooked their opponent a little bit 'cause they thought they were just all worldly. I still think India's a top ten team in the country, but I'm definitely if I'm like a Michigan or Ohio State or like those teams, I'm definitely not as scared as I once was. I'm not scared, but like Indiana comes to Ann Arbor too, so it might be a little tough for them to play. I still think I s I still think they're gonna be damn good though. So it's a it's a good opportunity for I don't think Northwestern's bad though. That's the thing. I think I think this is more this is less Indiana being bad, this is more Indiana Northwestern being good. Yeah. So that's how I'm looking at it. I think Aiden Childs has got something Going for him. We'll see if Northwestern can keep up the momentum. Got I hope. I think the do the does Michigan play Northwestern. Does I don't think this play Northwestern? I think you guys do. I don't think we do, but I know Illinois is coming up at some point. You know USC's coming. Both Michigan and Michigan State are coming at some point. So Yeah, Michigan State goes to you and then you go to Michigan. Yeah. Damn, that sucks. be a good game though. Like somehow still ranked at that point. At average. Michigan kinda has a tough slate coming out of this. Holy shit. They're at they're at Minnesota, home against Penn State, home against Indiana, away at Ructors, and then obviously the home against Michigan State. And then Damn. Then Oregon, UCLA, and Ohio State. Yeah. UCLA is gonna be a winter game. Damn. Okay. Okay. I think I think Michigan's got all the opportunities ahead of them to recover after this loss. It's just what they could do with it. Next UCLA though. That's next that's a for you guys' strength of schedule. That helps you guys a lot. Yeah. And UCLA, especially if they win out or keep winning. That's just gonna help you guys. I mean, this Oregon game this week determines how It's gonna be huge. Yeah. I th this is gonna determine how serious we really are. Cause also, like, it is winnable because you see Oregon lose to like Oklahoma State, you know? So it's like it really could be it's really like, are they gonna be able to stop the run and is UCLA's defense actually improved or did they just look good against Maryland? Competition competition. So I I I have a lot of I think it UCLA is a real deal. I think they're really good. I think I don't know if they're national title or playoff contention good, but I think they're a a solid team and they'll give you a bunch of stuff to be like work on or prepare for. Like it you're not gonna be Those JMU coaches are no joke. Dude for real. Next year, like very, very hopeful. Like I think yeah. I mean enough about UCLA, but yeah, no, this is like the dream start to this season. They're a team that's gonna get a lot of people fits and that's something that you should be excited for. Jack, do you catch the Bama game or 'Cause I did not I did not. I know that they pretty much retired Dylan Stewart from college school. I know they wiped South Carol the floor with South Carolina. North South Carolina's in a damn football, right? What'd they do with Dylan Stewart? they suspended suspended him indefinitely. For what? I think he took a swing on a he connected on that kid's jaw. And then he was then he was talking back to the coaches and then like is this an Alabama player? No. I I knew that name sounded familiar. I'm pretty sure he's on my dang team. Honestly Well, he gone. Honestly he's kinda he's kinda been washed up since his freshman year. I mean, he had a really good freshman year, he had a okay sophomore year, and then now this year he's just kind of been a problem. Yeah. So we'll see what Shane Beamer and the Game Cox can. C L A will take him. Yeah. I'm sure. I mean it just hurt his draft grade like immensely yesterday. This player sounds like some Olivet people. But definitely a free fall for the Game Cox. But Alabama's starting to look pretty explosive on the offensive side of the ball. I didn't think he was that fast. I thought I saw one of his rollout plays. Dude, he's cooking. Cooking. He is really fast. And Ryan Williams is starting to get back at he had two touchdown grabs on Saturday. He kind of went crazy. the run game. I the only thing I think that Alabama needs to kind of improve on is the defen like the defensive side of the ball. Like the first two weeks they were really stellar and they were like the part of that why that team was winning. And then the last two weeks, especially against not South Carolina, but who's the team they just played? Florida State. Florida State. They've kind of taken a step back and we'll see how they they can address that. But I still think Bam was gonna be scary in about a couple weeks. And I we're not even talking about this the best SEC win this week. It was Florida. Yeah. Florida dog won't get the shit out of Old Miss. And that's the swamp is a tr really, really tough place to play. Some are all getting them gathered dangerous. Yeah, he is. Aaron Philo, Vaughn, like run the Vaughn. That like he's a really good running back too. And it no one's even talking about no one was talking about how good he was carrying the rock for the Gators until like the last two weeks. He went off against Auburn and then he carried him against Ole Miss. Trinidad did everything he could. But I think looking back on that game, you had to think of like how much Ole Miss put into that L S U game and I feel like this was gonna be a reality check for them, especially after they just got fifty two bombed on their head. So Yeah. Just makes that Louisville game earlier in the year much more important. Yes. 'Cause they'd be out of the they wouldn't be out of the running. Louisville lost this week too. L Louisville lost losing to Wake Force is crazy. Yeah. The fact that they're receiving votes shows me that Wake Forest is a lot better than I think. So it might be another thing of like Northwestern Indiana, Wake Forest looks good. Louisville probably played a fine game, but obviously I didn't watch all the film. There's probably some things that happen, like some stupid turnovers or like some questionable decisions or players just making stupid mistakes. But I watched the game. Louisville Louisville, this is like another thing where it's like Lincoln Keenholes, he's probably gonna come back for another year or two. So it's like If if he stays at Louisville, like i i it does look really promising right now and these games happen. So Yeah. I watched the game and I can tell you that Louisville's secondary looked like the Detroit Lions on Saturday. So Wake Forest, Gio Lopez. Actually I think it Wake Forest is a pretty solid team. We just saw them compete with Miami. They only lost they really had every opportunity to beat Miami, but they lost by thirteen. And then They come into this game as an underdog and they beat a Louisville team that was supposed to be the second highest team in the ACC at Louisville. And I think Wake Forest is a sleeper team. I think obviously after Saturday they're pretty tough. They're three and one right now. but they're receiving votes, aren't they? Yeah. It's the ACC. every any given week a team could look Solid and then the next week they can fall off the face of the earth. I mean Clemson is what? Three? They're two and two right now or three and one. think they're three and one now. They're three and one and they they are just like they're not a three and one football team in my opinion. They're just they're kind of just dog shit. But but it's that's just the ACC. You got Miami, then there's everybody else. So we'll see we'll see how that the conference champs Duke. Yeah, Comfort Sham was Duke last year. Seven and five Duke last year. So Virginia lost. West Vir not West Virginia's in the Big Twelve. Virginia lost. So that's another big loss for them. No, wait, they had a bye weight. But all right. Never mind. we didn't even talk about the best team in the country right now. their name won against Purdue forty nine ten. of course. Yeah, that was a big win for us. I think this team's the best team in the country. Just dominated them. I mean, it wasn't even close in the kickoff. So TJ Carr did throw his first pick though. That pissed me off. I thought he was gonna go the whole season without throwing a pick. my god. The route that he threw it on it's like it was like the second possession of the second half and he threw it straight to the linebackers' hands. I was like, what are you you doing? But no, they look good. The run game bad started actually did pretty well on Saturday. They started Nolan James and I think that lit a fire under Aeneas Williams because he came out and was the leading rusher for us and he had a touchdown so that was really good to see. And I think this offensive line is starting to start to pick up the pace. So watch out for the Irish. Miami dog walked central Michigan too, so that was nice to see. Yep. Miami's literally playing air right now. They're playing air. I'm bringing yeah, I was about to say, have they played anybody? Everybody was talking about Nerdam's schedule, but can we take a look at Miami's schedule? Like damn they are playing. They got no one. They got no one. When they get into ACC play though, I mean seriously, no, they won't play anybody in the ACC. They played the bottom tier ACC teams. Agriculture and maintenance, bro. Yeah, Florida agriculture and maintenance. That's just how the cookie crumbles, man. Cookie crumbles, bro. All right, we'll talk about one more game from last weekend. Obviously, Texas and Tennessee played a lot closer than I thought it was gonna be. Yeah, me too. Arch didn't play great, but the defensively Texas was stellar and Colin Simmons whipped his junk out. yeah. Dude, that was crazy. But he I mean he if you have five sacks out of the ten, that's I mean, you kinda could do whatever you want. Yeah. So defensively Texas looks stellar. Tennessee wise, I think there's there this game was a l it looks a lot closer than it was. th they couldn't get the offensive really by going at all. They had a punt return touchdown, they had a field goal, and then they had wasn't it like what how'd they score their last touchdown? Texas? No, Tennessee. I don't know, but I tuned in right after they scored and they went for the onside kick to onside kick and they got it back and then that whole last drive for Tennessee was just horrible. I mean, it was penalties, it was the quarterback not knowing what he was doing. I mean, the offensive line didn't block anybody. And the receivers just didn't get open. So Yeah. Just speaks to Texas's defense, man. Sometimes there's nothing you can do. Talent. Talent's gonna win that every time. That's unfortunate 'cause Tennessee, they were kinda in this problem last year and maybe the year before that too. I didn't know. Ranked but not good enough to c really compete with the The other big teams. Right. And then they had a big loss to Georgia, I think, that kind of set him back last year like that too. It was a close loss. Overtime loss. I didn't know Tennessee's freshman quarterback hasn't lost a game since his sophomore year in high school. It's Kyler Murray type shit. Yeah. Well buckle up, buddy. Yeah, buckle up. This is the SEC now. There's a lot of there's a lot more of that comes from. And you that's true. You competed. And it you lost by one score. You could have won. How you gonna let Peyton Manning down when you're in his building? And Peyton's house. His nephew. Peyton was there. Yeah. And then Peyton let Arch's well, obviously his brother sitting his suite, but still. But that's a pretty much a recap of what happened in week four of the college football season. Obviously. Hey, we missed one thing though. what's up? Is Penn State having another fall? yeah. There we go. Penn State falling off the face of the earth again. I love it. I love it. I have you ever seen the meme like from Mega Mind where the You were right try break out of the room. He's like he's like playing with his watch. You were right. I will always be the best. It's like James Franklin, disguise. That's so that's dude, that last how Wisconsin won that game, that play that they won it on. He threw it to the slowest tight end ever. And that guy literally went 40 yards in like six seconds. It was like my god. Was he wide open? There's no one no there's maybe one guy. I'm pretty sure there should have been an offensive passier for us because he literally just bulldosed the corner. Like he whiffed on him. It wasn't even like Like a a good attempt to like bring him down. He just completely whiffed. my god. And then it took him like six seconds to get to the end zone. I was like, holy shit. With Penn State being at home too, like good God. That's a rough game. And now they play their whiteout against USC. Like now I'm it's a lot more believable that USC can go in there and win that. 'Cause that was one at the beginning of the year where I was like I don't know, man. Like I don't know if Penn State loses another whiteout, but Shoot, dude. I might just go with my logic that USC's on desperation mode and they're gonna win that one. I glad I'm glad that Wisconsin's actually winning 'cause that win helps no name. So keep winning, Wisconsin. Go Badgers, man. Go Badgers. Breaking news about the South Carolina kid. they South Carolina SEC jointly announced one game suspension for Dylan Stewart. What? wow. Nice. So indefinitely to one game. One game. All right. You know who should have more than one game? Is that damn USC player that almost knocked out Dante Moore in a hospital. Dante Moore and celebrated after that. That's bullshit. He deactivated his Instagram at halftime. He should. He's a So was it mid-game? it was just like a bad hit or No, it's Dante was in the middle of his slide, and the kid like killed his ass. Like torpedo right into it. Like he's lucky that Dante can move. Dante's head bounced off the turf. Tua. Dante got carried off on a stretcher. Ryola Magic had to come finish the game. I don't know. Oregon looked pretty damn good with Ryola back there. It really did. That's why you pay it might be a QB change. Yeah, that's why you pay Ryola the money. Shit like that. I was wondering why Ryol Ryola played Dante Moore. I was like, damn, they sat his ass. I just can't believe that Dante Moore passed away. The moral value that that kid have is just to celebrate after he did the And all it's not just him though. Like all the SE. S C players are literally just h high fiving him talking like, Yeah, you're the man. Like can't you're a piece of shit, dude. Like you're not going to the fell. Can't spell scum without USC. So I literally said that at the Bronson walk and somebody was like laughing about it. But no. USC. Still hate you. all right. NFL wise, my fantasy team's owing three. So that's awesome. Literally looking forward to Took my first loss this week. Yeah, well. I wish I could say the same. I was looking to take my first win, but it's all right. I'm still battling for my first one in one of my leagues. Right there with any wicks to do crazy tonight. No, you picked him up too. Yep. I had Puka too. Dude. I think I lost again in the college football one. really? I haven't checked that one. I'm I think I'm four and Yeah, you ain't played me yet. I got all Notre Dame players. I I C J actually I benched CJ Carr. For Drew Mestmaker. So that's a good point. He actually was ba balling out. Everybody on my team this week is on a bye. So I've like I'm predicting I have like eighty points. I'm averaging a hundred and ninety. So let me see what my team is at. Alright, I guess we could do this real quick before we transition to NFL talk. Well I'm curious what you guys thought of the new AP rankings. A pupil ranking. pretty fair. I mean Michigan should be out. No. Michigan lost a one point game to someone who was a ranked above them. They should be in the twenties. They should not be unranked. I do well, I do think Oklahoma State being number nineteen is a little high. Yep. But also then they're doing good right now though. Yeah, but then the argument becomes like, okay, why is Oregon like three spots above them too? Yeah. 'Cause they beat on West Virginia was ranked last week, right? Yeah, then they lost Yeah, Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State beat Oregon. You're one and three. I don't know. It it's it's weird. I'm one and three too though. I think I think the the AP rankings are like just so hit or miss because you'll have a really good ranking with like Florida. They deserve to be top ten. Yeah. They're ranked number eight. But then you'll have like an Oregon or not Oregon, but like Oklahoma State or a a Missouri that's still ranked. And Missouri's been looking really bad the past two weeks now. They they barely beat Troy and then they lose to Mississippi State. And they barely beat Kansas. Like they're they're not looking like world beaters and they shouldn't be ranked. But Michigan losing So on a last second play to Iowa who's ranked. This is like the second time we've seen Michigan go from ranked to unranked, ranked to unranked. Make up your damn mind. It's crazy. But other than I mean the AP poll is just trash. So it doesn't really even matter. Yeah. I think I don't I'm just happy UCLA. I saw UCLA up there. That was that was see that was that's a good one. I like UCLA up there. You could there's so there's a bunch of other teams though that are also four and that I'm sure are like right there. But that's why all these other it's cool to see the spot the teams that are just right out. Mm-hmm. Also Boise being twenty two is crazy. I think crazy in like a good way. Yeah, because it's like okay, if Western wins that, we might have saw Western at number twenty. And then they got their S B Yeah, they did get their S B reality check for sure. Cause now it's like Like Boise's gotta drop too somehow. And I don't know if that's gonna happen. That's not gonna happen. I think Boise wins out, unfortunately. And then another ranking that I'm starting to like is Mississippi State. They're moving up. yeah. They're moving up. Huge game this weekend. man. Who do they play? Bama. shit. Yeah. Very bold. Starksville. Starksville. Starkville. I think even if they lose it, they're not gonna be unranked. No, Camaro Camaro Taylor's second. Bama puts a seventy piece on him, they're gonna get unranked real quick. yeah. If that if they get blown out by four scores, yeah, they're not gonna be ranked anymore. But okay. NFL wise, Lions win. So that's or all Lions fans. Barely. Barely win. And Aaron Glenn's return to Detroit. It was a It was a good bounce back game for the defense, I feel like. Kelvin Shepherd, that final that final blitz call this to end the game was pretty it was awesome. That was pretty great. yeah, it was just nice to see us get back there. Jameer Gibbs is a god. Yeah, thank God for Gibbs. Thank God for Gibbs. Sorry. Gibbs. Gibbs. New nickname unlocked. Thank you, Gibby. He got me forty one points for my fantasy team and I still lost that bit. Levi texted me, he's like, Gibbs just dropped forty one points, and I'm looking at my fantasy team and my running back dropped one point seven. Like it was Jadarian Price in that league. I'm dropping his ass. J Love finally played. J. Love got twenty one though. Twenty one. So that was good. And Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson did pretty good. Why do I have to have the Texas tech office? I think we would ha had a pretty good I didn't have anybody good on my team recently. I'm surprised Jordan Love got you that many points with how bad their offense looked Thursday night. Jeremiah Love. Jeremiah Love, okay. Yeah. Not Jordan Love. We hate Jordan Love. Gotcha. We love Dejaon Love though. Deja on Love. The Niners might need to sign Dajon Love because they're starting to lose receivers left and right. Or people in general left and right. That's the story of the team with the Niners every single every year. I don't understand what Brock Purdy and them boys brockin They they did they brocking them. They did what they needed to. Is hurt again. Got his annual injury for the year. Raiders are three and Good for that. Raiders. The Raiders, man. The Raiders. The Brock Bowers came back and he was obviously played great. Ten receptions, 116 yards, touchdown. That was pretty nice. And kick your I mean, Max Taylor's Max Crosby, I mean, is actually happy now. Maybe I was hoping he'd come to the me too. Brock Purdy pla playing out of his mind. Baker Mayfield has not been playing good and he dislocated his sum, so he's out for three weeks. So it makes you it makes you go back to the signing right before the season. Yeah. Speaking I think they just wasted a hundred and thirty eight million dollars like signing him for three years. But yeah, I still love Bake though. yeah. I mean I don't I can't tell if that Buccaneers team is just not talented. The offensive line sucks. Or if it's Baker's fault. It's not Baker's fault. It's never Baker's fault. Well we we saw It's never Baker's fault. We saw dude he's getting chased down by three guys. Exactly. Three dudes are up as never mind. I feel like you know what no, but the go back to the Niners. Everybody on that mother f that team is getting hurt. Like that electric stadium electric stadium that's right next to them is killing that they damn near shot r Ricky Pearsall last year. They're just allowed to get by with it. That's bull that's that's bullshit. No. yeah, the Niners have injury problems and then Baker. I feel like Brock Purdy had a really bad year last year and then Everybody had questions about him. Now he does This dude had one. So Baker Baker might just have an offseason this year, so whatever. Yeah, dude, one sack, two interceptions. Okay, well. That's a pretty that's a pretty dark one. That's a pretty good never mind. Hafonga. Speaking of the Niners. Hafonga. That's a Notre Dame guy, isn't it? No. He's a Niners guy. Okay, bro. Nice Kyrie Williams. That was at the that was to end the game too. Did Kyrie just get a pick? I mean not pick, concussion. Hitting them. That's my boy Bijan. But ran all over those Packers. Yeah, I mean this was a fun game to watch. Like B watching Bijan run was fun. And Drake London went all. Shout out. Did he score this? But all right. I mean, do you guys really have much to say about the NFL? I do. Go on, Alex. shit, yeah, go ahead. My boy has a new start. JJ McCarthy has just got traded from the Minnesota bitching Vikings to the New York Giants with John Harbaugh. do I think he's gonna be the s lord and savior of the Giants forever? No. Yeah. But is he gonna be there for this season? Is he gonna be there this season? Absolutely. I think that JJ's gonna go in there, learn the play look as quick as possible, take Jameis's bitch ass spot and let that let that ride. And the I think J J's gonna rip it. I think they're gonna move Jameis to linebacker. Y'all see him Scataboo? Yeah, my god. Taking three D linemen to get Scattaboo down, Jameis just truck sticks him. Dude, that was so funny. Cause you can just tell when Cam got up, he's like, Man, what the Cam was pissed. I've never seen Cam Scatterboo gett laid out like a ragdoll like Jameis did to him. I just can't wait to see it. I I don't think I think he just didn't want to hurt Jameis. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I just can't wait to see J J and Cam just like butt heads before the game like hell yeah. Like it's gonna be they're gonna be nuts together. Do you think imagine like J J like balls out this year and like T wins? Do you think he takes Dart spot or no? No, I think J J will actually if he does Jud this year, I think he could potentially earn himself like a backup spot there. But like I don't know if J J's got starter in him. No. I don't know. I just a good running back just like it Michigan. Well look at Brock. Look at Brock Purdy. I feel like a lot of people would have looked at him as like a case Keenum situation right now, like third stringer. But Brock Purdy, like with with talent around him, right? That's how these quarterbacks all succeed is with good talent around them. This could go very bad for JJ too, I think. So I just hope Brock Purdy knows how to throw a football. Rip it and rip it. Hey J J know how to throw JJ, I'm still wondering. Yeah. But you know Hey, nine got it in him, I promise. They got Odell now. He's got Odell. Yeah, he's got Odell's Jefferson and Jordan Addison. True. He upgraded. Yeah. Yeah. And TJ Hill. He went to Malachi Fields and Malik Neighbors. And Odell Beckham. And Odell and OBJ. Thirty two year old. Yeah, and Likel likely has technically This is the interesting thing. Likely has number nine. So we might need to figure out what tight end wearing number nine. Interesting. You have something I want. I'm pretty sure Likely's not gonna give up nine. That's the thing. So JJ's gonna have to find a new number, but as soon as that happens, that jersey will be in my cart. I'm interested to see how Case Keenum does that. Yeah, seriously. What happened to Tyson like he's I guess he just beat him out. I saw him re he was dressed. What? Yeah. Why Case Keaton not in a retirement home? I thought he was done. I didn't even think he was in the league anymore. This dude is 85 years old. No, what? Is Caleb Williams even at the field right now? No. Right in the hospital. Probably in the hospital. grade two hamstrings. Dude, dude. I saw a video. Our coworkers had a video this weekend. It's like. Jackson Dart and Caleb Williams in the hospital next to each other. And then Jackson's like, Yeah, Jackson, your your knee is actually blown. You're gonna have to be out for the rest of the season. He's like and then he cuts over to like Caleb crying. It's like He's like, What's wrong with him? He's sh he's not even supposed to be here right now. He's like explaining the injury to Dart again. He's like Caleb's like, Well if he's out for a season, you might as well cut my leg off, right, Doc? Dude. Caleb Caleb Williams, I swear. Caleb Williams. All right. Anything else? He needs apparently this there's a I saw Pick'ems. Yeah. Yeah. There's a go ahead. No, no, I got I got nothing to say. I saw TikTok today about like, are you afraid? And it's like the guy's losing 156 to 101 and it's like only DeAndre Swift that needs to play. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Are you afraid? All right. I saw some crazy scores this week on TikTok. People dropped two fifty. yeah, that's right, Caleb. You're gonna have to do this. Yeah, I gotcha. Alrighty. We got some interesting games here. So we'll go over last week's results? yeah, last week Isaac went five and two, only one's wrong, were Ole Miss in Michigan. Alex went four and three, only one's wrong, same as Isaac, but also West Virginia. Jack went four and three. Ole Miss Michigan and Missouri all all wrong. And I went five and two. Got Ole Miss and West Virginia wrong. So, you know, we all we all tailed each other on three three out of four games and we got two of them right. So we'll take it. Take that shit. Michigan, obviously you guys were super close to getting that right. I'm pretty happy. I lone wolfed Iowa there, obviously. but overall Isaac's w in the lead now, officially. Twenty six and twelve record overall. Damn boom Jack's in second, one game behind him, twenty five and thirteen. I'm in third, one game behind Jack, twenty four and fourteen. Bad and Alex is in fourth, eighteen and twenty. So we're all still in it. Literally cannot get it. Still long season. We got we got eight more games. So big Big opportunity for swing here. first game, kind of a nothing one. North Texas at Tulsa. This is supposed to be super close. So are we going with a team that kept it a team that beat Oklahoma State or one of the best group of six teams out there in North Texas? Who I would I wouldn't even consider them one of the best anymore, but give me Tulsa. I'm also going Tulsa. I'm gonna go Tulsa. I'm fine taking North Texas here. I was hoping y'all do that. all right. They just lost Texas State though. That's okay. Texas State good. Not every team's the s not every not every team's the same, man. Not every team's the same. Week week to week. But next game, Alabama number seven at Mississippi State, number sixteen. Now this one this one's one where I think I definitely think the underdog here who's playing at home could win. But I trust Bama's defense to figure Camario Taylor out. So I'm gonna go with that. Give me Jalen Milrow on steroids, Keelon Russell. To win that big We don't know who Isaac's taking. I mean I haven't Mississippi State train hasn't failed me once this season. So give me Mississippi State to win this game. Camario Taylor. Yeah, I that's sweet. Heiser winner. Caleb, you can go first. Yeah, I did. He did go. who do you go with? Bama. I I took Bama. I can't I can't afford another loss, roll tide. All right. Isaac's Lone Wolf in Mississippi State. Good lone wolf. there's my makeup point. I think next game, Ohio State, number five at Iowa, number fourteen. Iowa. That we're doing a spread pick here. So do we think Iowa's gonna cover a thirteen and a half point spread? Yes. I think they lose by more than thirteen and a half. I think they cover the thirteen and a half because they're at home and that state that stadium is really hard to play at the What time is that game at? three thirty. Yeah. I think Iowa's tough to play. The last time I took Iowa to cover anything, it did not end well, as they almost lost to Iowa State. I do think in the first half this pick is gonna seem really dumb. Ohio State to win by more than thirteen points. But the second half I think Ohio State figures them out. I think they get used to the Espe even first quarter this game's probably gonna be like crazy, like Iowa maybe get some momentum going, but I think Ohio State's just too talented and for what they did in the first half against Texas, I don't think they're gonna like let let another team, especially who's not Texas, like come back or I don't know keep it close like they don't know. Ohio State's coming off their worst defensive performance of the the last two seasons, in my opinion. Against Illinois? Yeah. What was the score? they gave up like two hundred yards rushing. They only gave up nineteen, but they only put up forty two, so only put up forty two. Against Illinois. Only put up forty only put up forty two. Michigan hasn't touched forty two and they got fifteen years last week. Okay, sorry. They put up forty two points, but they still gave up nineteen to an Illinois team that shouldn't even be close. Illinois barely beat like a really bad team by seven for the week one. So You mean Jeremiah Smith. I'm gonna audible this to the s I'll be rifling it. I'm gonna audible this to the spread because this game's a lot more lopsided than I thought. Okay. Florida versus Missouri. So obviously we still have Missouri I think they're still ranked at twenty five somehow. They're twenty five. Crazy. but anyway, the spread for this game is Florida is a five and a half point favorite. So I think In order to be more fair, because obviously we're all just gonna pick Florida to win this. Yep. So we're gonna do spread instead. And I'll I'll go first since I'm making the change. I think, you know, after taking a loss like they did, I'm gonna risk it and go with Missouri to respond at home and lose by less than six. I think Florida absolutely covers this five and a half point spread. I think Florida spanks that ass I think they win by fifteen. Maybe even more. Maybe yeah. That's generous. Y'all stupid, bro. That's generous. Like Austin Simmons does not have that dog in him. Especially Ole Miss by twenty four. Yeah. There's no way. I think they covered And they put up fifty two. Yeah. Easily. Y'all don't know Missouri like that summer all train ain't slowing down. Nope. Virginia at Florida State. Virginia. Virginia. I'm gonna have to take Virginia. Florida State failed me once, but I believe in second chance. You're gonna believe in Mike Norvell? Why not? I don't know. He's probably he's on the brink of being fired. We're at the point we're at the point we're at the point in the college football season where shit starts hitting the fans. This might be the game he gets fired. Okay, well if See, this is where desperation comes in. You already had movie vans, talk a lot about desperation, right? I already said so I'm gonna write down. But dude, Virginia's already taken a loss this year. What makes you think that they can lose again? Like this is a coin flip. Because it's Florida, they tired of losing. All right, bro. It's Florida State. All right, bro. Kentucky number twenty four at South Carolina. Give me Kentucky. Kentucky. Kenny Minchie. Let's go, bro. Kentucky. Nordame for for former Notre Dame quarterback. Bro, I'm taking South Carolina. My God. They're in a free fall right now. So is Caleb. Free fall and Caleb, this might be your worst week of the entire season. We don't know how any of this shit's gonna go, dude. Dude, I'm I'm confident picking the home teams this week. Caleb's either gonna be losing worse than Alex or he's gonna be winning the whole thing at the end of this this week, man. Baylor at Arizona State. I think I'm gonna rock DJ Legway. I'm gonna rock Baylor. Baylor was so close to beating Auburn. They could be almost 4 0 right now. They should be, honestly. They were one inch away from I've never put my faith in DJ Lagway ever. You're gonna wish you did this week, boy. Ever again. Give me DJ Lagway. Go Baylor, baby. Baylor Bears. Alex? I three and Arizona State. They're both three and one. Or t one of them might be. Give me Arizona State. There it is, baby. There we go. There we go. There we go. Dilly. Dillingham. Dilly Dilly. Dilly Dilly. Get Dilly around and get his ass beat. That's what's going happen. Are they is Baylor at home? Yeah. shit. No, Arizona State's at home. you, DJ Legway. And the last game we're going to predict here. I'm going to like to UCLA. No, just do a moneyline. Just do a money line. I'm gonna go with Let me go Oregon here. I think I think Oregon's probably gonna win this one. And no this way no matter what happens, I'm happy with the result. but UCLA's probably gonna get punched in the mouth pretty bad. And I don't know I don't know if they got it in to respond like that quite yet. We've seen play competition, but not Oregon's proven that they can they can do this and they're at home against UCLA. But who knows? Maybe UCLA comes in there and hangs around for a little while and Couple of mistakes here and there from Oregon. They could win it, but I'm just gonna go with the team that I've seen respond better to adversity right now. UCLA hasn't really faced any. Oregon has. They beat US C. They're desperate. They're gonna they're gonna be playing, giving it their all. So Going Oregon. Give me Ryola and the Doug. I think this game's gonna be a lot closer than you think it is. I think I don't I'm not saying it's not gonna be close. I'm just confident in Oregon. More way more confident. No, I I'm going I'm going Oregon here, but I think it's gonna be a close game. I I don't think it's they're both West Coast teams, so it's not like they have an advantage over each other. It's just you see late fans could travel. Yeah, Eugene's just a really hard place to play, and I think Oregon ultimately gets it done. But that run game travels. Maybe maybe they have an Indiana type game there. Who knows? Maybe they maybe they they're able to pull up. All I know is all I know is that run game travels and defense travels. He still has one of them. So I it's gotta figure out the other. We had the other one against Maryland too, but that's Maryland. I'll go Oregon. You know, I just Fair enough. Just to be safe, I can't c I can't I can't do any more losses, guys. I just can't deal with any more losses. Well, this was my lone wolf week. We'll see how it turns out. Yeah. Caleb's got a poor lone wolf week. Caleb's looking to make some moves. Y'all just scared to take any risks, bro. Like that how do how are we supposed to how are we supposed to get any points on Isaac, Jack? If we're just picking the same teams every time. I picked a few different than Isaac. All right, man. He d he doubted my my bulldogs. Bama, Mississippi State. Kamario Taylor, baby. And then the Baylor won. Hey man, if I gonna find some Lagway gonna find some way to lose that game. If I get even some of these right, it's gonna be a crazy week of college football. Every week every weekend's been just getting crazier and crazier. So I think we might see a peak of it this week. So if that happens, you know, and these these upsets, you know, some of them aren't even upsets. Like I picked mo I feel like most of the games I picked, like the home or favored team's gonna win. So yeah, Missouri, I need you. Come through. So big week. Definitely gonna be fun when we come back next Monday and see how we all did. are we picking this game or no. No. All right. No, there's no point. Eagles. Eagles. Give me Case Keenum to pull it off tonight. shit. I feel like the Eagles always the Eagles always end up in damn close games. They do. It's about time they pay for it. Give me give me Case Keenum to have a Tom Brady type performance. Phillip Rivers type performance from last year. There we go. okay. I think that's gonna do it for this episode. Yeah. maybe we'll go live on Saturday. Just kidding, we're not. God, that'd be a bad idea. That'd be bad idea. Some things might be said. That we can't take back. That might end us. Like Bryce Underwood will win us a game. He will. all right. Final thoughts, Alex. Tighten up, Michigan. What the hell? And I JJ, let that ride. Caleb? everyone take take a few beers back for me. Jack? Go Bama. Go Virginia. And go ASU. Got any messages for your boy DJ? DJ, I wish you the very best game, but you're gonna find a way to it up. You always do. All right. for me, go Irish. Looking forward to a game against Bill Belichick's Tar Heels, so that'd be fun to watch. But Trap game. Trap game for sure. Dude, yeah, imagine. Winning his winning his N NFL coach. Finally has a coaching master class in college against Notre Dame. Yes. wait, Notre Dame plays North Carolina this week? Yeah at Dude, it's probably gonna be packed in there too. It will be if Notre Dame's coming to town. Notre Dame comes to town everybody's gotta sell their stadiums out. That's why they pay us to do it. he's acting like he's on the team. yeah us I mean we me and Marcus Like we we they sell our stadiums. When we show up they sell our stadium, so it's all right. all right, that's gonna do it for this episode of the You Don't Know Ball podcast. We appreciate you guys tuning in each week. thank you for actually giving us a review on the couch, whoever you are. you asked for a new camera, so at seven hundred thousand subscribers, we'll get a new camera. So you guys got till the end of October. So the deal's off the It's on you guys, not on us. It's not on our good luck. But remember Remember we don't know ball, you don't know ball, we all don't know ball. We'll see you in next one. Peace. Go blue. Go J J