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Drones and Lying Wonders | Gary and Mondo · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast today, everyone. Monogon's ALUs here in
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Speaker 2: studio with Gary Steerman. Here we are Gary Mondo.
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Speaker 2: twenty five gonna be an interesting year.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I was just about to say, Mondo, I think
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Speaker 1: it's going to be packed, because between now and then
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Speaker 1: a lot is going to be happening.
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Speaker 2: Indeed, And so one of the things that we wanted
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Speaker 2: to talk about today is, you know, not necessarily give
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Speaker 2: you know, a play by play full analysis, but you know, Gary,
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Speaker 2: we've been hearing and I've had an opportunity to share
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Speaker 2: on other programs about these drones that have been traversing
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Speaker 2: the skies over the Eastern Seaboard and other places now
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Speaker 2: really since mid November, and yet they're not going away,
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Speaker 2: and people a lot of videos that are people taking
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Speaker 2: with their phones. We've seen many of them are clearly
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Speaker 2: have FA lights on them, very specific. You could probably
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Speaker 2: tell us what's required on a plane from by the FA.
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Speaker 2: So some of them are clearly drones.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you see a plane and you look up
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Speaker 1: in the air at night, it has a couple of
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Speaker 1: lights on the wingtips by law, and another light on
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Speaker 1: the tail, and all civilian aircraft in the United States
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Speaker 1: have the green wingtip light on starboard and the red
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Speaker 1: light on port and the little white light on the tail.
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Speaker 1: So if you see that configuration, it's an airplane, no doubt.
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Speaker 2: Or even a drone, right, A big drone still has
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Speaker 2: to have that.
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Speaker 1: Drones have that. Except we've been seeing some odd light
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Speaker 1: patterns lately. If you really look at what's on television,
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Speaker 1: there are some big flashing white lights. There may be
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Speaker 1: one red light or maybe two green lights. Not typical
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Speaker 1: lighting for an aircraft.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing that has been happening is and
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Speaker 2: been documented, is in addition to what we would understand
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Speaker 2: as conventional aircraft like a drone, we there's there's orbs,
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Speaker 2: there's the lights, different things that people are zooming in
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Speaker 2: on them. They are sparkling, there's other things that are
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Speaker 2: happening there. They're making fast moves left and right, they're
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Speaker 2: they're morphing into multiple orbs at a time. Some there's some,
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Speaker 2: sometimes there's dozens, and and so that that's not a
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Speaker 2: typical conventional drone seven foot wide aircraft. So there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of things going on, And let me just share
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Speaker 2: this up front that you know the news, you know
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Speaker 2: the interviews with senators and congressmen and governors of New
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Speaker 2: Jersey and other things. But let me just give people
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Speaker 2: some background here first and foremost, because what we do
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Speaker 2: know is that the for example, and if you go
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Speaker 2: to Israel back in April or October, Iran sent drum
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Speaker 2: owns and over to attack and to be kamakazi, and
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Speaker 2: still drones are coming from Yemen down in the south.
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Speaker 2: But what we do know is that the United States,
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Speaker 2: in partnership with mostly Israel and even Jordan they're Jordanian
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Speaker 2: military Air Force, they flew up, they shot these things down.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, they had no problem shooting these drones
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Speaker 2: because they're not they don't fly very fast, you know,
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Speaker 2: for the most part, one hundred and thirty five miles
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Speaker 2: an hour, so we see that as well in the
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Speaker 2: eastern United States. So what we do know is they
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Speaker 2: absolutely can be shot down, at least these ones. But
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Speaker 2: the I had a friend who's in a military, Uh,
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Speaker 2: just email me and he said, oh, yeah, Norrad, which
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Speaker 2: we know he goes. They monitor all this, They know
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Speaker 2: everything that's going on, but Norrad has to get permission
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Speaker 2: from the civilian authorities to shoot anything down. But they
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Speaker 2: still track everything. So he was he's a veteran military
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Speaker 2: and he said, look, they know this, but they've been
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Speaker 2: told the reason they're not being shot down is because
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Speaker 2: they've been instructed not to shoot him down by the
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Speaker 2: current administration. So so, and then then the Pentagon comes
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Speaker 2: out and they'll say, well, we don't know what they are,
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Speaker 2: but we know you're safe. Well, that's just a dumb
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Speaker 2: comment by itself. So, I mean, Gary, the confusion, the lies,
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Speaker 2: the lack of shooting down, I mean, which you know,
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Speaker 2: you you're a pilot for for decades. What's your initial
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Speaker 2: thoughts on some of this?
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Speaker 1: Well, something happened today. Uh And I heard this on
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Speaker 1: my car radio while driving in to the studio today. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And it was from Luis Elizondo, a gentleman who's been
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Speaker 1: how many times has he been interviewed on.
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Speaker 2: Television director of a tip from Yeah, that's.
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Speaker 1: Right, way back. And he came on and said that
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Speaker 1: the FAA has issued or decreed no flight zones finally, right, finally,
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Speaker 1: no flight zones. Now that's that's a step forward because
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Speaker 1: people have been asking, well, if these things are are
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Speaker 1: not American aircraft, what are they doing up there? How
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Speaker 1: can they possibly be flying and controlled airspace without permission?
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Speaker 1: And apparently now we are. We've come to the place
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Speaker 1: where permission is being restricted restricted.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll restate that Louis Azondo is he's not
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Speaker 2: the director. I said director. He was a participant in
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Speaker 2: the A TIP program, that's correct, but he from two
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Speaker 2: thousand and seven to twenty twelve, which he came out
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Speaker 2: as a whistleblower in twenty seventeen. But so he's coming here,
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Speaker 2: he's been interviewed, which seems reasonable to have him be interviewed.
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Speaker 2: But yet why so this brings up an interesting thought.
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Speaker 2: Why now you think it's public pressure that they're doing
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Speaker 2: some no fly zones? What do you think changed.
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Speaker 1: Public pressure and the fact that something classified is up
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Speaker 1: there flying and you have two choices. Either it's a
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Speaker 1: United States Air Force something classified, or it's an alien
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Speaker 1: something classified, and the government doesn't want to talk about
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Speaker 1: either one of those things. But I think the public
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Speaker 1: pressure at this time has gotten higher than I've ever
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Speaker 1: seen it, and people are pushing And what's behind all this, Mondo,
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Speaker 1: And to me is the heart of the subject. If
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Speaker 1: something is flying up there that they don't want to
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Speaker 1: talk about, could it be a UAP of some sort.
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Speaker 1: If so, where is it from what's it doing. And
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Speaker 1: as a Christian, and we're sitting here at prophecy watchers,
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Speaker 1: we teach Bible prophecy, and we know about the Prince
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Speaker 1: of the Power of the Air. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: reading here in the Ephesians chapter two, it talks about
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Speaker 1: the course of this world according to the Prince of
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Speaker 1: the Power of the air, the spirit that now worketh
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Speaker 1: in the children of disobedience, so that the atmospheric heavens
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Speaker 1: are a place that's traversed by the devil and his minions.
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Speaker 1: And so as Christians, that's a point of view that
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Speaker 1: we don't often here expressed on television.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I think one of the things as Christians
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Speaker 2: that we are required to do is certainly, you know,
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Speaker 2: we trust the Lord for our salvation. We have the
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Speaker 2: foundation of Jesus Christ's Lord and savior. And again, anybody listening,
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Speaker 2: if you don't have Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior,
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Speaker 2: this is the time to do it now, because there
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Speaker 2: we're going to lack. If you don't have Jesus as
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Speaker 2: as your root and foundation, then you're going to be
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Speaker 2: inclined to be deceived. Jesus is the foundation of discernment.
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Speaker 2: Here and so that we want to point everybody always
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Speaker 2: to him. But this is the challenge. So what you
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Speaker 2: read Gary is there's always a spiritual side to things.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that everything that we see up there
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Speaker 2: is a demonic spirit for sure, because we know that. Again,
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Speaker 2: I'll bring it back for a moment, because when we
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Speaker 2: think about these drones, their physical drones, they have the
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Speaker 2: lights on them, and then you have again I'll make
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Speaker 2: a distinction here between the orbs which are something different
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Speaker 2: and the drones. And one of the drones that you
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Speaker 2: see one of the somebody had sent me this. It says,
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Speaker 2: I think it's a Tarot Dynamics XP four trans wing drone,
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Speaker 2: and then he gives the things. The Taro Dynamic XP
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Speaker 2: is being developed for the US Navy as a recon
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Speaker 2: a logistics drone capable of picking up and dropping off
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Speaker 2: packages between land and a moving ship, including in the
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Speaker 2: high seas. It's a trans doing design which it'll transition
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Speaker 2: between a quad copter and a fixed wing for both
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Speaker 2: long range flight and VTOL capabilities, so it can hover
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Speaker 2: pretty much. It well, that was what was interesting. Some
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Speaker 2: of these people were looking at and hovering. There's a
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Speaker 2: one hour flight payload, but that could be upgraded. It's
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Speaker 2: thirteen by six. And then people were talking about them
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Speaker 2: being the size of an suv, which this is. This
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Speaker 2: would go up that. But it says this explains why
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Speaker 2: they're appearing every night, how it's sticking around. It literally
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Speaker 2: has a home base to swap batteries all night long,
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Speaker 2: going back to New Jersey there and then it goes
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Speaker 2: on to say blah blah blah blah, anyways, some other
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Speaker 2: stuff that's happening. So the other thing Gary that came out,
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Speaker 2: which is just worth mentioning, is that we don't know
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Speaker 2: a lot of this is misdirection. It could be disinformation.
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Speaker 2: We already know that the Pentagon has come out lied
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Speaker 2: saying that we know you're again. We don't know what
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Speaker 2: they are, but we know you're safe. Okay, well again,
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Speaker 2: so they're lying right out of the gate. But there's
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Speaker 2: been information that there was some missing radioactive material either
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Speaker 2: in a medical facility going all the way to Spain
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Speaker 2: and then coming across. And so are these sniffer drones
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Speaker 2: that are looking for radio radioactive spikes And that's why
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Speaker 2: they're going at night because they could do this in
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Speaker 2: the infrared or whatever. That might be. Oh, there definitely
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Speaker 2: is the possibility of a military operation going on. People
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Speaker 2: are seeing it again, very rarely do they fly during
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Speaker 2: the day, but even at nights. But now it'll be interesting.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned the no fly zone, so because we know
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Speaker 2: I mean here it took a month.
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Speaker 1: And Luis Elizondo added a comment that I have to
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Speaker 1: throw in here, he said, when asked, he said, these
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Speaker 1: might also be some of the vehicles that we have
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Speaker 1: come to call you AP. So he did not leave
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Speaker 1: that stone unturned. He mentioned that, yes, these could be
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Speaker 1: some of our own drones sent on missions that we
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Speaker 1: know not what, but he said there may also be
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Speaker 1: some UAPs mixed in there. And then he was asked
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Speaker 1: a question, and this is where the interview ended. He
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Speaker 1: was asked the question, well, can you tell us have
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Speaker 1: you a p he's been seen and recorded in this
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Speaker 1: series of events, and he declined to answer. He said,
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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's impossible for me to answer that question
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Speaker 1: because it would be.
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Speaker 2: Class the non disclosure recruitments.
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Speaker 1: It would be classifying. So there's there's never a clear
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Speaker 1: clean answer here. There's always just the little thought exactly
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Speaker 1: over here in the corner that we may be dealing
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Speaker 1: with an unknown well.
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Speaker 2: And and what's interesting to me is that just thinking
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Speaker 2: in the political realm that you know, we are in
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Speaker 2: this window between the election and the inauguration day on
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Speaker 2: January twentieth, So in this window, a lot of things
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Speaker 2: are there's speculative speculations about a lot of things that
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Speaker 2: could happen. I find it fascinating and I do believe
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Speaker 2: this that George Soros and others on the left have
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Speaker 2: have no problem paying money to incite riots. We've seen
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Speaker 2: it happen. In fact. You know, it's funny you have
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Speaker 2: all these riots at these different locales, but yet they
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Speaker 2: all have the same tents, the same colors, the same brand,
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Speaker 2: so they've been buying them from a local source. But
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Speaker 2: yet it's been really quiet. Where's the riots? I mean,
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Speaker 2: they promised riots if Trump was to win, as an example,
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Speaker 2: but it's been super quiet and all the way through,
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Speaker 2: so you think, are they building up to something? And
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Speaker 2: there's some other reports that the FBI and have been
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Speaker 2: working overtime at at this anticipation of what might a
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Speaker 2: big event that might happen between now and January twentieth.
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Speaker 2: So it's it's tough to get truth out of really
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Speaker 2: anybody when depending on it comes straight out lies to
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Speaker 2: your face. And they should have that press really should
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Speaker 2: have been a little bit more logical.
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Speaker 1: You use the Bible as our basic foundational thought pattern.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a Christian, if you study the
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Speaker 1: Bible for years, you always go back to the Bible
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Speaker 1: and see, now, wait a minute, what does the Bible
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Speaker 1: say would be happening? And we teach Bible prophecy, and
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Speaker 1: we teach about the fact, and it's very very clear
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Speaker 1: in the Bible that in the last days there will
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Speaker 1: be quote unquote perilous times, and those times will involve
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Speaker 1: supernatural events. And so as Christians, we probe those supernatural events.
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Speaker 1: And I want to read Ephesians six twelve and for
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Speaker 1: your comment, because and you know this by heart, for
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Speaker 1: we wrestle them out against flesh and blood, but against principalities,
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Speaker 1: against powers, against the rulers of darkness in this world,
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Speaker 1: against spiritual wickedness in high places. Comment on those high places.
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Speaker 1: But that's what we're talking about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it interesting that no doubt, as you
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Speaker 2: referenced earlier, we have in the Book of Ephesians two
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Speaker 2: two and six twelve and thirteen. There that the enemy
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Speaker 2: in the sense the prince of the power of the air,
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Speaker 2: and then in this reference we have heavenly places. So
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Speaker 2: this is common in really I would say, biblical theology,
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Speaker 2: that the enemy likes to hang out in the air
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Speaker 2: and the heavenly places. And I think this is probably
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Speaker 2: why you have high places as sacrificial places in the
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Speaker 2: Old Testament, as we know, like Solomon didn't tear down
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Speaker 2: the high places. We also know a lot of times
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Speaker 2: even in Mesopotamia near Eastern religious mythology, they loved mountaintops
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Speaker 2: because there was a and even go back to the
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Speaker 2: Tower babble, they were trying to reach up into where
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Speaker 2: the heavens in order to do these things. And so
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Speaker 2: the interesting thing about it is, so you have this
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Speaker 2: idea that the air is kind of the realm of
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Speaker 2: the enemy and the spirit world the spiritual hosts of wickedness.
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Speaker 2: So what I find fascinating is if you go to
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Speaker 2: the book Revelation chapter twelve, that in that future war
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Speaker 2: between Michael and his angels and Satan and his angels,
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Speaker 2: Satan and his angels are cast down to the earth.
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Speaker 2: It's like they're cast out of that heavenly realm or
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Speaker 2: that air Aire realm, and they're forced to stay in
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Speaker 2: the ground, which makes him very mad, and he knows
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Speaker 2: his time is short. But so I'm not surprised then
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Speaker 2: that when we look at the future, and that's kind
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Speaker 2: of what we want to discuss, is you know, I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying that these drones are supernatural, demonic or anything
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Speaker 2: like that, because there seems evidence seems to be that
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Speaker 2: they're not. Necessarily they are clearly conventional or military, or
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Speaker 2: even what you were describing with Louis Elizondo is maybe
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Speaker 2: some reverse engineer craft or whatever. But let's say that
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Speaker 2: they are UAP of some kind, like genuine non human
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Speaker 2: up okay nevertheless, or even the orbs. I think we'll
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Speaker 2: talk about the orb in a minute. But what we
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Speaker 2: wanted to do today is, like you read Revelation or
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Speaker 2: Ephesians two, but Luke twenty one, as we look forward
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Speaker 2: to the end of the age, Jesus makes a comment
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Speaker 2: here and he says in Luke twenty one to twenty five,
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Speaker 2: there will be signs in the sun and the moon
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Speaker 2: and the stars and on the earth. Distress of nations.
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty strong word. It is distress of nations
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Speaker 2: imperplexity because of these things. The roaring of the sea
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Speaker 2: and the waves. Okay, that's one thing that's going to
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Speaker 2: cause distress and perplexity among the nations. The second thing
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Speaker 2: in verse twenty six, people fainting with fear and with
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Speaker 2: foreboding of what is coming on the world. Okay, for
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Speaker 2: the powers of the heavens will be shaken. So you
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Speaker 2: have all the things that people their normal realm of
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Speaker 2: understanding is going to be turned upside down. And then
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Speaker 2: I would say this that in the Matthew twenty four passage,
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Speaker 2: which is a corollary to this of the Element discourse,
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Speaker 2: the first thing that Jesus said is when they were
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Speaker 2: describing they want to know about the end of the age,
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Speaker 2: Jesus said, don't let anybody deceive you. Beware. Yeah, deception
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Speaker 2: gary is going to be the main sign of the
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Speaker 2: end of the age. And truth. What is truth? I
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Speaker 2: mean that you think about right now? Depending on is
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Speaker 2: the militaries they're coming out lying to us. So as
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Speaker 2: a Christian, then we know where we're heading. That truth
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Speaker 2: is going to be tossed in the streets. How do
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Speaker 2: we even know it's true anymore? And that's we have
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Speaker 2: the scripture for sure.
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Speaker 1: And Satan is well known for one thing, and that
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Speaker 1: is disillusionment, casting doubts upon everything you've been lying, right
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Speaker 1: and which you believe. He lies professionally, he knows how
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Speaker 1: to lie. And I'm thinking you go back to the
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Speaker 1: foundation of Israel, back to eighteen ninety eight. It is
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Speaker 1: really where the first what we came to call UFOs
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Speaker 1: were seen, and there have been many books written. You
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Speaker 1: come forward from eighteen ninety eight to nineteen forty eight,
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Speaker 1: and in that vicinity you have the famous Roswell event,
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Speaker 1: and you have the Foo fighters of World War II,
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Speaker 1: and on and on and on. And I don't want
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Speaker 1: to recite all of the UFO low here except to
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Speaker 1: say that I have long believed that what we call
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Speaker 1: UFOs now UAPs have a lot to do with the
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Speaker 1: legions of Satan. They are, and particularly when you begin
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Speaker 1: to read about UFO abduction. I've got La mar Zuli's
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Speaker 1: book here called Rungs of Disclosure, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: he did a good job. He did a good job,
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Speaker 1: and he essentially links Satanic activity with the whole UAP phenomenon,
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Speaker 1: including very strange operations capturing men and women and performing
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Speaker 1: surgeries of various kinds.
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Speaker 2: And the whole production phenomenon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then bringing them back and letting them live
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Speaker 1: the rest of their lives, not happily in many cases.
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Speaker 1: And so what we've got here is a situation in
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Speaker 1: which we have to very carefully analyze what we're seeing
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Speaker 1: and we don't want to jump too far into the occult.
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Speaker 1: And yet something's going on and people are upset about it. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think that the key in all this is, Look,
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Speaker 2: I am a thorough, thorough, bread all the way supernaturalist.
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Speaker 2: I believe the Bible, so I have no problem with
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Speaker 2: any of it. I also I've enjoyed for most of
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Speaker 2: my life conspiracy theories. Okay, but I also am very scientific.
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Speaker 2: You know, again, doing archaeology and studying a lot of astronomy,
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Speaker 2: you come to say, Okay, I understand the limits of
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Speaker 2: what we can put in an empirical formula or test.
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Speaker 2: But the key thing in all this is to stay
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Speaker 2: balanced in that we don't immediately go to everything supernatural.
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Speaker 2: Because that's what I saw a lot of is these
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Speaker 2: drones were happening, and everybody's like, it's supernatural, supernatural, and
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Speaker 2: you're like, well, Okay, hold on a minute, don't don't
21:24
Speaker 2: jump to conclusions yet. And so sure enough, as we
21:27
Speaker 2: saw more and more videos come to be we saw
21:29
Speaker 2: the lights, the green light on the right wing and
21:32
Speaker 2: the light on the back, and you're like, no, these
21:34
Speaker 2: are real drones. And people have been getting great pictures
21:39
Speaker 2: as we know with our phones now or we can
21:40
Speaker 2: zoom in. The phones are great and so but we
21:43
Speaker 2: don't want to be too quick to just throw a
21:44
Speaker 2: supernatural label on it or a demonic label. But on
21:47
Speaker 2: the other hand, we keep hey, everything's open, so some
21:51
Speaker 2: of them, and this is kind of would be the
21:52
Speaker 2: best mix of a deception, whether it's by the military
21:57
Speaker 2: or others, is to have things all mixed together. I
22:00
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised then if these those that are perpetrating this,
22:05
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't those that are perpetrating it would
22:09
Speaker 2: potentially mix in. Why not have a UAP, a genuine
22:12
Speaker 2: UAP come in the midst of all this, when there's
22:15
Speaker 2: all this distraction. Uh. The other option that people are
22:18
Speaker 2: talking about is maybe this is a foreign agent. Maybe
22:22
Speaker 2: it could be the Chinese or something sending their drones.
22:25
Speaker 2: But I find that highly problematic in the sense that
22:29
Speaker 2: you know, again, as we mentioned earlier, NORAD and others,
22:31
Speaker 2: they they're watching these things. They know, that's just part
22:34
Speaker 2: of what they do. So the fact that they're not
22:35
Speaker 2: being shot down, or they're not being shot down because
22:38
Speaker 2: maybe they have chemical weapons on them, don't know. But
22:42
Speaker 2: unfortunately I don't I don't imagine that they would just
22:46
Speaker 2: allow it, that they would. I can't imagine that they
22:49
Speaker 2: wouldn't do an e MP or some other type of
22:51
Speaker 2: pulse to bring it down to some degree.
22:53
Speaker 1: Well, and you mentioned the fact that I've been a
22:56
Speaker 1: pilot for years and the one thing that I really
22:59
Speaker 1: noticed during my years of flying was the continuing build
23:06
Speaker 1: up of radar coverage over the United States, to the
23:10
Speaker 1: point that within the last ten years, you're if you're flying,
23:15
Speaker 1: you're on radar. You're on radar, and it's high tech radar.
23:19
Speaker 2: Talk about the communication, I mean you when you would
23:21
Speaker 2: fly from one place to one, even one small place
23:24
Speaker 2: to another, you had to be in communication, right, didn't
23:27
Speaker 2: you have a flight log and all that or how
23:28
Speaker 2: did that work?
23:29
Speaker 1: Well, you talk to air traffic control and they assign
23:32
Speaker 1: you a code number, and on the panel of your
23:35
Speaker 1: airplane you have what's called transponder. You turn on the
23:38
Speaker 1: transponder before you take off, and after you take off,
23:43
Speaker 1: you talk to air traffic control and they give you
23:45
Speaker 1: a number. It might be two eight three seven, and
23:49
Speaker 1: so you dial two eight three seven into your transponder
23:52
Speaker 1: and they see you on their screen as number two
23:55
Speaker 1: eight three seven, And wherever you go, they see your number,
23:59
Speaker 1: and from the time you take off till the time
24:02
Speaker 1: you land. And that is true all over the United States,
24:06
Speaker 1: even more so now, even more so so, if something
24:11
Speaker 1: like an airplane size drone came flying around and they
24:15
Speaker 1: got a radar return without a transponder number, that is
24:20
Speaker 1: a red flag. The bells ring and everybody gets upset
24:24
Speaker 1: and said, we've got to detour this airliner who is
24:27
Speaker 1: scheduled to fly through this airspace at such and such time.
24:31
Speaker 1: And that's what you've got over the whole United States
24:34
Speaker 1: air traffic control.
24:36
Speaker 2: And it's amazing to me too, because the just last
24:40
Speaker 2: month Disney, know why am I bringing up Disney, Well,
24:43
Speaker 2: Disney had they had a brand new ship, like a
24:49
Speaker 2: cruise ship that was being deployed and they had this
24:56
Speaker 2: amazingly beautiful drone show. And this goes back even to
25:01
Speaker 2: a year ago where there was againness Book of World Records.
25:04
Speaker 1: Oh, drones are fantastic now.
25:07
Speaker 2: It was amazing. They had over fifteen hundred drones for
25:10
Speaker 2: this world record, and they had all these things in
25:12
Speaker 2: the sky and and they had they showed images of
25:16
Speaker 2: like people fighting with swords and so you know, so
25:19
Speaker 2: Disney and they were all in perfect harmony.
25:21
Speaker 1: Okay.
25:22
Speaker 2: And then Disney did this one last month which again
25:24
Speaker 2: the sophistication of all these drones and their ability to
25:27
Speaker 2: work together, fly together in complete unison, with lights in
25:30
Speaker 2: the in the sky, people up there watching it was
25:32
Speaker 2: it was pretty cool. And so you imagine that's that's Disney.
25:37
Speaker 2: What does the military have?
25:39
Speaker 1: Okay? Indeed, indeed, right, so military has a few more dollars.
25:44
Speaker 2: I think so. And if you go back to what
25:46
Speaker 2: Louis Elazando and others, even David Grush, the latest congressional
25:50
Speaker 2: hearings one that the military that the black Black Ops,
25:57
Speaker 2: the special projects they have been involved in crash retrievals
26:02
Speaker 2: and reverse engineering, and that has been very documented. And
26:06
Speaker 2: so you think of all the technology that they have,
26:08
Speaker 2: which is light years ahead of us. Yes, and so
26:12
Speaker 2: that's why I'm hesitant. Even maybe you can get your
26:14
Speaker 2: thoughts on. Even the orbs that people are seeing, People
26:17
Speaker 2: are zooming in on them. They look like they're floating.
26:20
Speaker 2: Some of them have compared them to Ezekiel's wheel and
26:23
Speaker 2: ex equal under one, and yet you have all this stuff.
26:26
Speaker 2: But I'm very hesitant even to attribute a supernatural element
26:31
Speaker 2: or demonic element to those. Some people call them their angels,
26:35
Speaker 2: which I mean, I have a little bit more respect
26:37
Speaker 2: for angels just being a little bit of mixture of light.
26:39
Speaker 2: But I do find it interesting. And again I'm not
26:43
Speaker 2: concluding anything fully but what the Black Special Projects have,
26:50
Speaker 2: even the orbs, there's no reason to just jump to
26:53
Speaker 2: the conclusion that they're demonic.
26:55
Speaker 1: That no, there is not. But on the other end,
26:57
Speaker 1: we don't want to exclude the technic because we know
27:01
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of those circulating around. That
27:03
Speaker 1: the UFO abductions are authenticated cattle mutilations, cattle being lifted
27:09
Speaker 1: up and drained of their blood, and Heaven only knows
27:13
Speaker 1: what they're using the blood for. We have our ideas,
27:16
Speaker 1: so we have that whole venue which takes us all
27:21
Speaker 1: the way back to the Old Testament and blood sacrifice
27:24
Speaker 1: and demonic spirits plaguing mankind and plaguing the twelve tribes
27:29
Speaker 1: of Israel and coming and flying in, and you have
27:35
Speaker 1: angelic and demonic battles in the Old Testament. And if
27:39
Speaker 1: you're a Christian and you read this, you start scratching
27:42
Speaker 1: your head. You say, wait a minute, has this Have
27:44
Speaker 1: we come into an era where this is beginning to
27:47
Speaker 1: happen again? And that's why you and I are having
27:50
Speaker 1: this conversation kind of to clarify.
27:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when we want people, I'll read this is
27:57
Speaker 2: probably a good time that as we approach the end
27:59
Speaker 2: of the age, and most of us, you know, at
28:04
Speaker 2: least here were we believe in the pre trib We
28:07
Speaker 2: don't hold it in the same level as the Gospel
28:09
Speaker 2: of Jesus Christ. So we understand there's vary variations of viewpoint,
28:12
Speaker 2: but we believe will be taken out before the seven
28:15
Speaker 2: year tribulation begins and then the man of sin appears.
28:19
Speaker 2: But it says here in second Festaloons two nine, the
28:24
Speaker 2: coming of the lawless one is by the activity of
28:28
Speaker 2: Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and
28:33
Speaker 2: with all wicked deception for those who are perishing because
28:36
Speaker 2: they refuse to love the truth. And so be saved. Therefore,
28:40
Speaker 2: God sends them a strong delusion so that they may
28:43
Speaker 2: believe what is false, in order that all may be
28:46
Speaker 2: condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure
28:48
Speaker 2: and unrighteousness. So I'll read one other passage, just for
28:52
Speaker 2: the sake of being thorough. Is in Luke in Revelation
28:55
Speaker 2: thirteen again coming of the lawless One, the Antichrist, in
28:59
Speaker 2: this case the false prophet that the beast. It says
29:03
Speaker 2: in Relations thirteen thirteen. It this false prophet figure performs
29:09
Speaker 2: great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to
29:13
Speaker 2: earth in front of people, and by the signs that
29:16
Speaker 2: it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast,
29:19
Speaker 2: it deceives those who dwell on the earth, telling them
29:22
Speaker 2: to make an image of the beast that was wounded,
29:24
Speaker 2: and it goes on. So it gives life to the beast.
29:27
Speaker 2: So what we're saying is that what I expect between
29:32
Speaker 2: now and whenever, is that the coming of the lawless One,
29:36
Speaker 2: which we know is ultimately in the tribulation. But yet
29:39
Speaker 2: all these things are preceding it that I'm not surprised
29:42
Speaker 2: by deceit, deception, our government lying to us I'm not
29:47
Speaker 2: surprised by things that are happening in the sky that
29:51
Speaker 2: are that we can't know, are very sophisticated things, signs
29:56
Speaker 2: and wonders. We know that the end of the age
29:59
Speaker 2: is characterized by these things. That's why Jesus said, letting
30:01
Speaker 2: no one deceive you. So in that sense, Gary, as
30:05
Speaker 2: we as we look forward and move in that direction,
30:09
Speaker 2: is it going away or is it going to get worse?
30:12
Speaker 1: It's getting more voluminous. These appearances are definitely scaling up
30:18
Speaker 1: in terms of number of number and complexity of events.
30:25
Speaker 1: And that's what Luis Alexando has been talking about. He's
30:28
Speaker 1: been on television, he's been interviewed in many many places,
30:33
Speaker 1: and he comes on with this, I can tell you this,
30:36
Speaker 1: but I can't tell you that. And this is the whole.
30:40
Speaker 1: This is the conundrum that we're faced with. There is
30:45
Speaker 1: a phenomenon that is, shall we say, extraterrestrial As Christians,
30:51
Speaker 1: and I know, I personally believe that there are angels
30:56
Speaker 1: and demons that flyer on in our airspace and have
30:59
Speaker 1: been doing so since the Old Testament Bible days. And
31:02
Speaker 1: you look at the Assyrian and Babylonian cultures, they spoke
31:07
Speaker 1: routinely of visitors from on high who.
31:11
Speaker 2: Came coming out of the clouds, coming out.
31:13
Speaker 1: Of clouds and landing. And have you seen all the
31:16
Speaker 1: sculptures you know in the in the Middle East, ancient
31:19
Speaker 1: sculptures from Assyria and Babylon of giants you know, who
31:26
Speaker 1: were worshiped by those people, and who reportedly, if you
31:30
Speaker 1: read their writings, came and went in machines that flew,
31:35
Speaker 1: were able to fly. And of course we know about
31:37
Speaker 1: Ezekiel who saw the wheel of fire that came and
31:41
Speaker 1: landed in front of him. So we're not talking about
31:43
Speaker 1: anything strange. You know. UFO's UAPs are very well covered
31:50
Speaker 1: in the Bible, and make no mistake, most of the
31:56
Speaker 1: appearances that are in profit see are not good appearances
32:02
Speaker 1: that they are Satan coming to do his evil work
32:06
Speaker 1: in the latter days.
32:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one other thing I want to mention, just
32:09
Speaker 2: for the sake of being thorough, is two of the things. Actually,
32:13
Speaker 2: one is what I've been hearing, and it's been pretty
32:16
Speaker 2: pretty common, is when you have lights in the sky
32:19
Speaker 2: that are unknown again orbs and other things and people
32:23
Speaker 2: throughout Project Bluebeam and so they just throw this, oh
32:26
Speaker 2: it's Project Blue beeing, Well, let me tell you what
32:29
Speaker 2: that's about. I mean, Sergei monast was a guy that
32:34
Speaker 2: he was a French speaker and he wrote this basically
32:39
Speaker 2: theory about this conspiracy theory that one day, in order
32:42
Speaker 2: the globalists or the elites would stage some sort of
32:47
Speaker 2: holographic invasion. But he listed four steps to it. The
32:52
Speaker 2: first one was that there would be earthquakes that would
32:55
Speaker 2: alleged earthquakes that would open up things that hadn't been
32:59
Speaker 2: seen before, crevices in the ground or caves or whatever.
33:03
Speaker 2: And then in those caves would you would find archaeological
33:06
Speaker 2: evidence that would maybe you would see a saucer or
33:09
Speaker 2: something in the ground. And so then it would it
33:12
Speaker 2: would challenge the typical viewpoint of of most religious systems.
33:15
Speaker 2: And then in the second stage, you would have a
33:19
Speaker 2: holographic messiah, uh and it would be the Messiah of
33:22
Speaker 2: your choosing. It might be again maybe in in in
33:25
Speaker 2: India it might be a Hindu Messiah, and in in
33:27
Speaker 2: Pakistan it would be the Mahti, you know. In America
33:30
Speaker 2: in the West, maybe it's Jesus coming back. And so
33:34
Speaker 2: they would have this holographic massia, which then would merge
33:36
Speaker 2: into one in order to bring again deception. The third
33:43
Speaker 2: one would be using specific frequencies. They would be able
33:46
Speaker 2: to speak as the as a holographic messiah would be arriving.
33:50
Speaker 2: They would be sending frequencies that you would hear in
33:52
Speaker 2: your mind and saying it's me, it's me, you know,
33:54
Speaker 2: I'm Jesus or whatever and so. And finally the four
33:57
Speaker 2: stage that that this the Project Blubeam theory, was that
34:01
Speaker 2: there'd be they would stage a massive holographic alien invasion,
34:07
Speaker 2: an extraterrestrial invasion, and so with that chaos, then you
34:11
Speaker 2: would bring one man or order out of the chaos
34:16
Speaker 2: in that regard, and so you can throw that onto
34:19
Speaker 2: the This is just part of that. That's conspiracy theory. Again,
34:25
Speaker 2: as we've said, when we see the Elements the Sky,
34:31
Speaker 2: Elements drone show of fifteen hundred drones, we're not surprised
34:35
Speaker 2: that the military would have the technology to do any
34:38
Speaker 2: and all that and that sense, to show things in
34:41
Speaker 2: the sky, the orbs or whatever. I think the other
34:44
Speaker 2: thing that is happening is is the other side of
34:47
Speaker 2: it is doctor Stephen Greer, he has been involved in
34:52
Speaker 2: this for thirty years. His view, which I wouldn't agree
34:55
Speaker 2: with is that there are actual extraterrestrials, non human, and
35:00
Speaker 2: that they are friendly, they're here to help us.
35:03
Speaker 1: But they they're here to help, and they've shown a
35:09
Speaker 1: lot of restraint and in their technology.
35:12
Speaker 2: Going back fifty sixty seventy five years, the human the
35:16
Speaker 2: military has downed some of their craft and then reverse
35:20
Speaker 2: engineered them. And therefore now some of the craft that
35:22
Speaker 2: these black ops have are even just as sophisticated as
35:25
Speaker 2: the real extraterrestrial crafts. So sometimes you might see something
35:28
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's extraterrestrial, and it could be just
35:32
Speaker 2: one of ours, a human made. So you know, he
35:35
Speaker 2: was a doctor, he is a trauma doctor, and so
35:37
Speaker 2: but his I find this interesting. His view is that
35:42
Speaker 2: these black military ops are out of control, unconstitutional, and
35:48
Speaker 2: they are now a legitimate threat to the extraterrestrials who
35:53
Speaker 2: are just our friends.
35:54
Speaker 1: Working in league with the extra.
35:56
Speaker 2: No, no, no, these are their enemies, according according to
35:59
Speaker 2: his view. Okay, okay, but there are others that view
36:02
Speaker 2: the extrarestules meeting with you know, Eisenhower and others. But no.
36:05
Speaker 2: Greer's view is that they are that they want is
36:09
Speaker 2: now a threat to them, and so will the true.
36:13
Speaker 2: According to him, the extraterrestrials now be be tempted to
36:17
Speaker 2: take action. But he says that this will be interesting.
36:20
Speaker 2: So he says, by the fifteenth of January, there gives
36:24
Speaker 2: me massive disclosure. He says, he's got dozens of whistleblowers
36:27
Speaker 2: that are in the threat of their life are going
36:30
Speaker 2: to come out and expose all of this dark special ops,
36:34
Speaker 2: black ops stuff. So we'll see what happens. But all this,
36:37
Speaker 2: he doesn't know, is this part of the agenda in
36:40
Speaker 2: order to disrupt the inauguration. So here we are again.
36:44
Speaker 2: We're living in exciting times. We're approaching the end of
36:46
Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
36:47
Speaker 1: Four and for Christians, and a million things are running
36:51
Speaker 1: through my mind as I listen to you talk. But
36:54
Speaker 1: for Christians, I think we need to arrive at a
36:59
Speaker 1: seven condition in our faith.
37:03
Speaker 2: That's why we're having this conversation exactly.
37:05
Speaker 1: And I know for a fact, based upon the experiences
37:12
Speaker 1: of my entire life, that UAPs are real, That there
37:17
Speaker 1: is some kind of phenomenon which has prompted our government
37:21
Speaker 1: and governments around the world to take action to aim
37:28
Speaker 1: large sums of money at research and development. A lot
37:34
Speaker 1: of people call it reverse engineering, and so we have
37:38
Speaker 1: that and the possibility that what they think of as
37:44
Speaker 1: extraterrestrials from another galaxy, perhaps we think of as what
37:48
Speaker 1: the Bible refers to as principalities, powers and rulers of darkness.
37:53
Speaker 1: And I take that view. I believe that there is
37:56
Speaker 1: a Satanic force called the Prince of the Power of
37:59
Speaker 1: the Air, or driven by the Prince of the Power
38:02
Speaker 1: of the Air, and we have lots of biblical evidence
38:05
Speaker 1: for that. And to me, we need to build the
38:10
Speaker 1: faith of true believers. I think if we are living
38:14
Speaker 1: in the times that we seem to be, that we're
38:18
Speaker 1: going to be seeing soon be seeing a lot more
38:20
Speaker 1: of this sort of phenomena.
38:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that really is the goal is.
38:24
Speaker 1: And Christians need to be I think, in a stable condition, yes,
38:28
Speaker 1: in their thinking.
38:29
Speaker 2: And the goal here, certainly for me and both of us,
38:32
Speaker 2: I know because we've talked about it. We're absolutely not
38:35
Speaker 2: here to promote fear of any the opposite. Actually, we're
38:39
Speaker 2: going to promote stability in the Gospel. But what we're
38:44
Speaker 2: seeing is the key is, Hey, when we look around
38:48
Speaker 2: and we see lies from the government, or we see
38:51
Speaker 2: strange things in the sky, regardless of where they are,
38:54
Speaker 2: and you see confusing things and interesting things, honestly, in
38:58
Speaker 2: some ways, things that could potentially be a threat, even
39:01
Speaker 2: though the government tells us, don't worry, nothing to see here,
39:03
Speaker 2: not a threat. My thinking on it is, well, we wait,
39:09
Speaker 2: we look, we stay sober, we watch these things. Don't
39:14
Speaker 2: jump to the conclusion that it's automatically angels or demons
39:17
Speaker 2: or whatever. But we hold everything open. We know that
39:20
Speaker 2: there's a lot of nefarious people.
39:22
Speaker 1: I'd like you at this point, I want to interrupt.
39:24
Speaker 1: I'd like your comment on the Book of Revelation, because
39:28
Speaker 1: you have the seven churches, you have the trumpet blowing,
39:31
Speaker 1: and John goes up to heaven and there are the
39:35
Speaker 1: elders seated, and everything you know is poised for the
39:39
Speaker 1: grand as it were, the grand opening, and suddenly there
39:44
Speaker 1: appears the Antichrist, and he is accompanied by powers of
39:50
Speaker 1: various kinds, very dark powers. And are we in the
39:57
Speaker 1: leading edge of that era right now? Are we seeing
40:00
Speaker 1: the preparation for all those things?
40:03
Speaker 2: I think that's a great question, and I think the
40:06
Speaker 2: answer absolutely is yes, not necessarily, that the antichrisi is here,
40:11
Speaker 2: because as we read in those passages and second Estonians,
40:14
Speaker 2: two or of Lation of thirteen, when the Antichrist has appear,
40:17
Speaker 2: his coming, his very coming is with signs and wonders
40:21
Speaker 2: and lies. But I don't think that he's here yet.
40:25
Speaker 2: But what we are seeing, though, is the conditioning in
40:31
Speaker 2: the preparation for UFO and UAP and heavenly things and
40:36
Speaker 2: things coming from the sky. As Jesus said that people's
40:39
Speaker 2: heart failing them for fear right those things that are
40:42
Speaker 2: coming on the earth. So what with all of the
40:46
Speaker 2: UFO disclosure that we've been seeing in Congress, Okay, from
40:50
Speaker 2: basically twenty seventeen into twenty two, twenty three, and twenty
40:53
Speaker 2: four again there was just a just a meeting back
40:58
Speaker 2: in November. So with all the movies, all the marvel,
41:04
Speaker 2: the DC movies and Independence Days.
41:07
Speaker 1: Glad you mentioned movies. But we have been conditioned this anditioned.
41:11
Speaker 1: I mean, in the last three generations, the day of
41:14
Speaker 1: the Earth is still Star Trek, Star Wars, Star the
41:17
Speaker 1: Star that we've been conditioned to think in those galactic terms,
41:22
Speaker 1: you know, Epsilon Eradoni, here we come. And so now
41:27
Speaker 1: we're looking for those things. And let's face it, UFO
41:31
Speaker 1: watching has become a big enterprise.
41:35
Speaker 2: There are thousands upon thousands of UFO sightings every year,
41:40
Speaker 2: I mean all around the world. So this is anything again,
41:42
Speaker 2: this is why many of them have even the official
41:46
Speaker 2: reports in Congress, the Pentagon has come out to say,
41:50
Speaker 2: and they've given us this little crumbs, but they've come
41:53
Speaker 2: to say, well, some of them, we don't know. We
41:55
Speaker 2: can't explain them, but they don't see what they are.
41:58
Speaker 2: And they say, but there's no evidence that they're extra
42:00
Speaker 2: trust us just it's certainly not that, okay, But whatever,
42:03
Speaker 2: the fact is that even they have to admit that
42:06
Speaker 2: there's they have some without explanation affording to current ideas.
42:09
Speaker 2: But I think the when you ask about what we're
42:12
Speaker 2: what we're seeing right now, when the Antichrist does arrive,
42:16
Speaker 2: he's gonna and and and as if when the rapture happens,
42:20
Speaker 2: the church is gone, which the church is going to
42:21
Speaker 2: be gone, the restrainer is gone, whatever exactly all that entails,
42:25
Speaker 2: which means the sault and light at that moment truth
42:28
Speaker 2: in the minds of all the believers is gone off
42:31
Speaker 2: the earth. And so if you remove that and and
42:34
Speaker 2: the Antichrist comes, as we say clearly in scripture, with
42:37
Speaker 2: signs and wonders and miracles to a to a group
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Speaker 2: of people that do not have good, good, solid holy
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Speaker 2: spirit Jesus discernment, they are sitting ducks for whatever comes.
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Speaker 2: And so they have they're the ones that have been
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Speaker 2: conditioned with all of these movies and everything else, and
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Speaker 2: so that when it does come up with real miracles again,
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Speaker 2: these are real mirror. So now let me say this
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Speaker 2: just is that we kind of talked about this, is
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Speaker 2: that as a Christian, if a UFO landed there, it
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Speaker 2: is I mean, boom undeniable live on television. Is that
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Speaker 2: going to shake my faith? Not at all. In fact,
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Speaker 2: what I would want to do is I'd want to
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Speaker 2: go up there and knock on the door. Hello, anybody
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Speaker 2: in there. You speak English, and they open the door
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Speaker 2: and they say we've arrived, and I say, wait, wait, wait,
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Speaker 2: hold on a minute. I want to ask you a question, Okay,
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Speaker 2: only one question. I have. Do you acknowledge that Jesus
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Speaker 2: Christ is Lord and Savior, creator of all things, including you?
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Speaker 2: Because the Bible says he created all things in the universe,
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Speaker 2: including you, and that and salvation is found in him alone.
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Speaker 2: Yes or no? Okay, that's the ultimate question. And that
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Speaker 2: right there. If we keep that centered, then we can't
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Speaker 2: be deceived because we know that when anti Christ comes
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Speaker 2: for Shaun, chapter two says quite clearly, they're going to
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Speaker 2: deny that Jesus is the Messiah. They're going to deny
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Speaker 2: that he had anything to do with it. They're going
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Speaker 2: to be false Jesus. So to me, if we keep that,
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Speaker 2: no matter what happens, no matter what we see out there, Gary,
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Speaker 2: no matter, the ultimate thing is what's their message.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're very close to the end of our time.
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Speaker 1: But I want to throw another thing at you quickly,
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Speaker 1: and that is a very simple biblical declaration, the perfect
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Speaker 1: Love of God casts out fear, which is straightforward as
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Speaker 1: straightforward a declaration as you can find in the whole Bible.
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Speaker 1: God's perfect love casts out fear. What a time to
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Speaker 1: remember that as the time we are living in right now,
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Speaker 1: because I see a lot of fear. I hear people
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Speaker 1: in states of various kinds of anxiety.
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Speaker 2: Oh, confusion, anxiety, absolutely, yep.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and perfect love does cast out fear. And I
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Speaker 1: want to close on that note comment on the love
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Speaker 1: of God in the society in which we now live.
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Speaker 2: I think they when we come to that faith, that anchor.
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Speaker 2: Then there is no fear because we know God's in
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Speaker 2: control and we also know that God holds us. And
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Speaker 2: so even if again a real being again I don't
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Speaker 2: discount I don't know this. And if God had created
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Speaker 2: other beings in other parts of the universe, okayt that
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Speaker 2: doesn't shake my faith. We just don't know about it.
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Speaker 2: It's unlikely. But so if one came down and they
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Speaker 2: were physical, I would think maybe it was deception, or
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Speaker 2: was a fallen angel or you know what, were they
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Speaker 2: masquerading Angel of lights and Corinthing's eleven. But in the
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Speaker 2: midst of all that, is there any anxiety now? Because
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Speaker 2: I trust that the Lord holds me in his hands.
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Speaker 2: He's given us the scripture. That's why I said. The
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Speaker 2: first question I'd asked is their relationship with Jesus and
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Speaker 2: to what they knew about him? And if not, you
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Speaker 2: know whatever. But the thing is is that we understand
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Speaker 2: the gospel first on three. We all know John three sixteen,
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Speaker 2: But first John three sixteen says something very similar. By this,
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Speaker 2: we know love, right, that's what you bring us. We
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Speaker 2: know love that he laid down his life for us,
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Speaker 2: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers.
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Speaker 2: So this is the key that Jesus laid down his
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Speaker 2: life for us, and this is how we know the
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Speaker 2: love of God, and this is how perfect love casts
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Speaker 2: out all anxiety fear. First, Peter five tells us to
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Speaker 2: cast our cares upon him. Why our anxiety is upon him?
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Speaker 2: Why because he cares about us? So to me as
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Speaker 2: as we continue on this road, this conditioning of deception.
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Speaker 2: The reason we talk about this is we don't we
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Speaker 2: don't want to ignore it. People are asking questions and
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Speaker 2: we want to be able to say stay strong in
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Speaker 2: all this. We don't have all the answers. Nobody does.
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Speaker 2: But we're living in an age of deception, which is
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Speaker 2: Jesus warned us about. But we hold on to.
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Speaker 1: Him, we do. And again I predict, based on what's
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Speaker 1: happening right now, that there is going to be a
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Speaker 1: lot or confusion in the near future. We have wars,
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Speaker 1: we have rumors of wars, we have economic financial instability,
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Speaker 1: we have so many negatives floating around out there. And
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Speaker 1: you add to that the diaph and of the whole Ufo,
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Speaker 1: Hayes and fog, and that you've got people who are saying, wow,
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Speaker 1: I don't even know what to think anymore. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: that's where it pays off the love of God and
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Speaker 1: the certainty of scripture.
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Speaker 2: And you know, we know that God didn't give us
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Speaker 2: the answers to everything, but he gave us the answers
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Speaker 2: to the most important thing, and that is again a
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Speaker 2: relationship with Him. So Gary, thanks for your time. Here
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Speaker 2: we are and thank you everybody for listening today. Again,
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Speaker 2: this and try to analyze it from a biblical perspective
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Speaker 2: and a sober perspective. I'm not going to jump to conclusions,
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Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, we're here to
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Speaker 2: stand strong and to know that the Gospel is the foundation.
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Speaker 2: There's no lack of clarity on that. So thanks for
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Speaker 2: listening today. We'll catch you next time.