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Diogenes Club | E32 - Everything's Expensive, You Can Vote About It · Diogenes Club

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SPEAKER_01: Good afternoon and welcome everyone as you start coming on in.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Nick Paro,
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SPEAKER_01: still not your dad,
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SPEAKER_01: joined by Dr. Eric Lulove, contributing medical editor for Blue App Media.
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SPEAKER_01: This week at least.
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SPEAKER_01: This week at least.
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SPEAKER_01: To the Sick of this Shit Publications Diogenes Club.
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SPEAKER_01: How are you, my friend?
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SPEAKER_01: I am tired like you, my friend.
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SPEAKER_00: I know we were talking off screen a little bit before.
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SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, I think we're just exhausted.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we all just freaking tired.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, Ashley.
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SPEAKER_00: Are you?
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SPEAKER_00: Are we?
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SPEAKER_00: Are we?
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SPEAKER_00: Are we tired?
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SPEAKER_00: Are people tired?
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SPEAKER_00: Listen, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: I think, I mean, I was just sharing off screen with Nick.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been working since April
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SPEAKER_00: on two really large format meta-analysis clinical studies,
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SPEAKER_00: taking the evidence that's in the literature.
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SPEAKER_00: And, you know, because of all the work I do in wound care.
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SPEAKER_00: So, like, I was just sharing with Nick that I published this.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't even show you the other paper, Nick, that's already off for publication.
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SPEAKER_01: That one's on Amnion and Corian.
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SPEAKER_00: So what I did was I took the matrices we use for wound management
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SPEAKER_00: for healing patients and split them up by the classes the way CMS has it,
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SPEAKER_00: the way the FDA has it split.
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SPEAKER_00: And nobody's done this,
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SPEAKER_00: but I took the two classes of tissues
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SPEAKER_00: and basically made two different meta-analyses papers.
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SPEAKER_00: So for those of you that are not in the research world,
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SPEAKER_00: meta-analysis and systemic reviews are the highest level evidence
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SPEAKER_00: because you're not using patients,
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SPEAKER_00: you're using the existing data and creating a new analysis.
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SPEAKER_00: So that you're creating a new,
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SPEAKER_00: a new standard of evidence care that an insurer contractor has to go by.
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SPEAKER_00: And the reason why is because as those of you,
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SPEAKER_00: some of you that know,
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SPEAKER_00: I do a lot of these Medicare ALJ hearings for providers
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SPEAKER_00: and they're just getting just butt rammed by the MAC contractors and then
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SPEAKER_00: the administrative law judges who are not qualified to read 2,500 pages
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SPEAKER_00: of medical literature.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's another flaw in the system, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Let's ask an administrative law judge who somebody went
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SPEAKER_00: to law school who's basically an attorney working for the government,
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SPEAKER_00: being able to do an analysis of medical charts and medical studies,
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SPEAKER_00: clinical trials,
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SPEAKER_00: to form an opinion as to whether or not the care that was rendered by the provider
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SPEAKER_00: to the beneficiary met medical necessity.
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SPEAKER_00: But let's have an attorney do it and not Some medical professional reviewing
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SPEAKER_00: the it's I just there's so many there's so many ways that this country needs
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SPEAKER_00: a massive enema and a reset.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's why I look so tired.
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SPEAKER_00: Plus, I'm getting ready.
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SPEAKER_00: We're leaving for my wife and I were leaving for our trip next week.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking forward to my almost three weeks of vacation.
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SPEAKER_00: That'll be nice.
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SPEAKER_00: You're going to have to find a substitute for our Thursday show.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sure I can find somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: I think you could find somebody.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm sure someone will substitute.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure a friend of the show would love to step in and be in this box right here next to you.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I know at least one in the audience right now who'd probably step in for a couple weeks.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm tired.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm definitely tired.
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SPEAKER_01: It's been a hell of a couple weeks.
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SPEAKER_01: We've got some illness in the family.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's more than one person.
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SPEAKER_01: And so it's pretty rough.
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SPEAKER_01: We've had a lot of family come in this past weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: So we got to see a lot of family.
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SPEAKER_01: As if you didn't have any stress already.
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SPEAKER_00: And then you bring in family to add more stress, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Because nothing's a stress reliever like more family.
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SPEAKER_01: I was only there during the times when people were sober.
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SPEAKER_01: So...
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SPEAKER_01: At
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SPEAKER_01: least not so un-sober that people were wild and just let their emotions run loose
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SPEAKER_01: because they didn't have any guardrails left anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'll say that.
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SPEAKER_01: I was there during the daytime.
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SPEAKER_01: We got some projects done.
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SPEAKER_01: We got to see family.
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SPEAKER_01: We got to have good food.
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SPEAKER_01: The kids had a good time overall.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, they would have been happier in their own beds, I think, and their own spaces.
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SPEAKER_01: At least my daughter would have been, because teenager.
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SPEAKER_01: But it was good overall, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I have a question for you, Nick.
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SPEAKER_01: Probably have an answer for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy?
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SPEAKER_00: You know where I'm going on this one.
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SPEAKER_01: If the Tooth
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SPEAKER_01: Fairy
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SPEAKER_01: or the Easter Bunny
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SPEAKER_01: stole top secret information from the U.S.
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SPEAKER_01: government and committed a felony, they should be prosecuted for it.
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SPEAKER_00: So I put a post up.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought of something really funny because Jack Smith probably was thinking it,
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SPEAKER_00: but he won't say it because of who he is.
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SPEAKER_00: But I would have turned my chair and was like, Senator Kennedy.
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SPEAKER_00: In response to your question, I'm a grown man.
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SPEAKER_00: I do not believe in the Tooth Fairy, nor do I believe in the Easter Bunny.
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SPEAKER_00: But had they been in the Capitol on January 6th and beat up police officers
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SPEAKER_00: and were part of the insurrection, I would have indicted them too.
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SPEAKER_00: That would have been it.
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SPEAKER_00: That whole hearing would have had a completely different tone after that.
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SPEAKER_00: And then we all got Schmidt-faced.
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SPEAKER_00: So, let me ask you a question.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you think that Senate hearing was kind of the beginning of the end of MAGA?
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SPEAKER_00: Do you think that was kind of like the beginning of the death sentence for it
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SPEAKER_00: because of the way they bootlegged their way through that entire hearing,
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SPEAKER_00: knowing what's happening?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, we've been saying that we've said that about other hearings in the past,
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SPEAKER_01: too, when MAGA has been floundering.
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SPEAKER_01: That wasn't floundering.
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SPEAKER_00: That was drowning.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that was.
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SPEAKER_00: That was...
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SPEAKER_01: That was drowning.
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SPEAKER_01: But we've seen it in other hearings, too.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just...
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SPEAKER_01: I think they're...
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SPEAKER_01: I think they are fracturing right now, yes,
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SPEAKER_01: because it's close to an election,
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SPEAKER_01: and they see that people are really fired up to actually go vote,
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SPEAKER_01: which everything's expensive, everybody, and, you know...
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SPEAKER_01: There's one party to blame for all of it being really, really expensive right now.
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SPEAKER_01: Because one party has all three branches of government.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything to the right.
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SPEAKER_00: Everything more expensive.
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SPEAKER_00: My other right.
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SPEAKER_01: The Republican Party right now
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SPEAKER_01: is pushing everything more expensive
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SPEAKER_00: and is making everything more expensive.
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SPEAKER_01: And you can do something about it.
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SPEAKER_01: You can vote.
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SPEAKER_01: What's that thing that we do?
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SPEAKER_00: What's that exercise?
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_00: The election ends November 3rd.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's vote before November 3rd.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I understand.
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SPEAKER_01: Vote on or before Tuesday, November 3rd, depending on what your state allows.
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SPEAKER_01: Depending on what your state allows, not everybody gets to vote early.
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SPEAKER_01: If your state allows you to or whenever on November 3rd you can, go vote.
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SPEAKER_00: Go bring a friend.
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SPEAKER_01: Go
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SPEAKER_01: Vote for everything on your ballot.
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SPEAKER_01: Know what you're going to vote for ahead of time.
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SPEAKER_01: Come prepared and go vote.
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SPEAKER_01: If you're signed up to be a poll watcher or a poll worker, good for you.
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SPEAKER_01: Good on you.
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SPEAKER_01: But everybody needs to go vote and everybody needs to participate in democracy.
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SPEAKER_01: On or by November 3rd this year.
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SPEAKER_01: So because polls are indicators of where people are feeling.
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SPEAKER_01: Voting is the result of what you're feeling.
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SPEAKER_01: That is your action item.
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SPEAKER_01: You have to prove the polls right by actually doing the action and doing
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SPEAKER_01: the civic engagement, which is to go vote and know who you are voting for.
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SPEAKER_01: And so make sure you're ready and you're voting and you don't leave your voice
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SPEAKER_01: and your vote on the table this November.
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SPEAKER_01: Super important that you don't leave your voice on the table this November.
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SPEAKER_00: Just saying.
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SPEAKER_00: Question number three.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you believe that Josh Hawley,
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SPEAKER_00: after the hearing the other day,
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SPEAKER_00: who came out and specifically said that he wants a national abortion ban,
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SPEAKER_00: started his 2028 presidential one?
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SPEAKER_01: Josh Hawley is like the least liked senator.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's saying a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: I want everybody to know that's an organic answer because I did not prep Nick for
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SPEAKER_00: that question before I asked him.
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SPEAKER_01: Josh Hawley is the least like senator from
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SPEAKER_01: Missouri.
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SPEAKER_01: And the Missouri senators hate or are worse than most other senators.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm saying that from Arkansas where we have Tom Cotton.
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SPEAKER_01: And Josh Hawley makes Tom Cotton look kind of semi-normal.
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SPEAKER_01: But, you know, whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: I hope he does try and run.
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SPEAKER_01: I hope he does.
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SPEAKER_01: I would love to see Josh Hawley, J.D.
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SPEAKER_01: Vance, and Pete Hegseth on a debate stage showing their whole asses to each other.
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SPEAKER_01: Marco Rubio showing their whole asses to each other.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine what that circular fighting squad is going to look like?
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SPEAKER_01: Good.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Let them do it.
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SPEAKER_01: I cannot wait.
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SPEAKER_01: Because then they're going to have to try and distance themselves.
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SPEAKER_01: They're going to have to try and distance themselves in some way from Trump.
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SPEAKER_01: Not distance themselves completely because Trump is putting in their agenda.
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SPEAKER_01: So they want these things,
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SPEAKER_01: but they're going to have to distance themselves just enough from Trump.
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SPEAKER_01: And then Trump's going to get mad and he's going to insert himself into the election.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's going to be great.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's going to be, and they're going to pitch a fit
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SPEAKER_00: about each other.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm excited to watch.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, Trump's going to
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SPEAKER_00: play one off the other.
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SPEAKER_00: He's going to say, oh, I like Marco this week.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, no, no, I like Josh Hawley this week.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I like, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: And Pete Hegseth is going to go up there and is going to look like a fucking moron.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to feel so happy to see him look like
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SPEAKER_01: a fucking moron every time he opens his mouth.
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SPEAKER_01: And eventually he's going to have to answer the question
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SPEAKER_01: of how come he's made $3.1 million in crypto and stock exchanges since coming
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SPEAKER_01: into office as the Secretary
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SPEAKER_00: of Defense.
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SPEAKER_01: How come he's made $3.1 million when he started with between 15 and 50 million or 15 and 50,000?
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SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_01: Like he didn't have a very large investment portfolio.
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SPEAKER_01: Now he has $3.1 million.
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SPEAKER_01: All while everything is getting more expensive for everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: We are in a war that has no end in sight.
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SPEAKER_01: J.D.
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SPEAKER_01: Vance and Marco Rubio have both said that this war is probably going to last until
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SPEAKER_01: after inauguration in 2029.
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SPEAKER_01: We are going to be at war forever.
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SPEAKER_01: Again, we're back at war.
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SPEAKER_01: And guess what, guys?
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SPEAKER_00: No more foreign wars.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to do another foreign war.
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SPEAKER_00: Vote for me.
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SPEAKER_00: No foreign wars.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, here we are again.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, to answer the question in the chat,
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SPEAKER_01: can we be a bit more positive and think about the bigger picture?
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything's fucking expensive right now.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know what you can do about it?
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SPEAKER_01: You can go vote.
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SPEAKER_01: You can go vote.
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SPEAKER_01: That is the bigger picture.
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SPEAKER_01: You must go vote.
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SPEAKER_00: That's the big picture.
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SPEAKER_00: It's vote and bring a friend who also votes.
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SPEAKER_01: And ensure that those around you can safely vote too.
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SPEAKER_01: That means doing your civic duty and if you need to stand there and be a presence
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SPEAKER_01: of peace and of safety for other voters, stand there and talk with other voters.
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SPEAKER_01: Just stand in line with other voters and just talk with them.
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SPEAKER_01: Voting.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you want to talk about the positive part?
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SPEAKER_01: To get to the positive, we have to talk about the negative too.
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SPEAKER_01: We don't hide.
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SPEAKER_01: Friend from talking about the negative side of all this.
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SPEAKER_01: And it gives us the opportunity to discuss the crimes and the actions that are going
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SPEAKER_01: to get prosecuted and held accountable once this administration is out of power
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SPEAKER_01: because they've admitted it.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's the truth is the Democrats are going to spend
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SPEAKER_01: the next two years investigating Donald Trump and his gang of criminals.
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SPEAKER_01: God.
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SPEAKER_01: To the end of the world.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's really important.
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SPEAKER_01: It's really important that they spend time doing that because we need
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SPEAKER_01: the legislative power and the legislative body to do its job and hold Donald Trump
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SPEAKER_01: and his gang of criminals accountable so that we have a log of criminal evidence
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SPEAKER_01: and legislative evidence so that we can try some of these people for treason.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's where it needs to get to
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SPEAKER_01: because We have people committing anti-constitutional acts who are trying to impose
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SPEAKER_01: a new form of government on top of the existing form through fiefdoms
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SPEAKER_01: and tech bullshit and a technocracy and create a dictatorship and
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SPEAKER_01: an oligarchy instead of a democratic republic.
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SPEAKER_01: We can get rid of all of them and then we can socialize our nation in a way
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SPEAKER_01: that we've never done before so that we can actually have a social democracy
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SPEAKER_01: where people get value out of what we pay our taxes for.
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SPEAKER_01: Eric, what do you think?
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SPEAKER_00: So I want to answer Evan's question.
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SPEAKER_00: Evan, we miss you, buddy.
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SPEAKER_00: So for those of you what Evan's question in the chat was about,
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SPEAKER_00: it was about Hegseth's performance yesterday.
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SPEAKER_00: And the reason why I want the podium for this one,
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SPEAKER_00: Nick, is because this is going to be, I actually prepared a statement.
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SPEAKER_00: I actually prepared a statement for this knowing that this was going to get asked
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SPEAKER_00: at some point today.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is my statement.
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SPEAKER_00: Pete Hegseth took the podium not as a steward of the free world's deadliest arsenal,
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SPEAKER_00: but as a cable news pundit running a frat house orientation.
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SPEAKER_00: Watching the Secretary of Defense address the highest ranks
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SPEAKER_00: of our military leadership with playground taunts,
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SPEAKER_00: reducing geopolitical doctrine and military readiness to, quote,
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SPEAKER_00: no fatties,
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SPEAKER_00: no weirdos, and mandatory testosterone testing made it excruciatingly clear.
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SPEAKER_00: When you elevate an aggrieved morning show host to run the Pentagon,
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SPEAKER_00: you don't get grand strategy.
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SPEAKER_00: You get a man desperately trying to wage a cultural food fight
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SPEAKER_00: against phantom enemies,
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SPEAKER_00: Fundamentally confusing locker room swagger,
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SPEAKER_00: and with the quiet, serious gravity required to command an army.
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SPEAKER_01: Well said.
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SPEAKER_01: Well written.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I think.
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SPEAKER_01: Or for those of you that did not follow.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's what my middle finger thinks.
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SPEAKER_00: That's it right there.
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SPEAKER_00: Bingo.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's what my middle finger thinks to Pete Hegseth is my middle finger has
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SPEAKER_01: a middle finger for you, Pete Hegseth.
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SPEAKER_01: You can go fuck yourself twice.
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SPEAKER_01: It's embarrassing.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a fucking embarrassment.
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SPEAKER_01: He is a failed major.
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SPEAKER_01: He is a failed major who was not given command of troops so
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SPEAKER_01: that he could not ruin their careers because he's a failed major who wants to run
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SPEAKER_01: for president.
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SPEAKER_01: And he's not going to do very well in that run because everybody hates him.
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SPEAKER_01: Because he's a failed major who cannot do the job.
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SPEAKER_01: Even at the basic level.
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SPEAKER_00: Nobody in this cabinet is qualified to do any of the jobs that they were...
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SPEAKER_01: They're qualified to tear the institutions apart.
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SPEAKER_01: Project 2025.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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SPEAKER_00: We're back to what we were trying to talk about last two years ago when we warned everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: We were flagging yellow caution tape all over the place.
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SPEAKER_00: Blinking lights.
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SPEAKER_00: Warning.
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SPEAKER_00: Warning.
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SPEAKER_00: Danger, Will Robinson.
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SPEAKER_00: Danger, Will Robinson.
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SPEAKER_00: We were flagging everything saying this is going to fuck everything up.
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SPEAKER_00: Their whole purpose is to destroy the pillars of government so that they can create
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SPEAKER_00: the society they want through eugenics by policy across every major aspect of
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SPEAKER_00: the federal government.
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SPEAKER_00: And they are doing it.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's why this election matters.
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SPEAKER_00: That's why this is it.
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SPEAKER_00: This is our last election.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: I know we've said this before.
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SPEAKER_00: This is it right here.
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SPEAKER_00: There will be no 2028 election if they stay in power.
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SPEAKER_00: This is not we're done.
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SPEAKER_00: I might as well just pack and move to another country because it's not going
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SPEAKER_00: to be worth staying here.
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SPEAKER_00: It just because it's they are going to literally destroy everything in their path
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SPEAKER_00: because it's about power.
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SPEAKER_00: It's about money.
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SPEAKER_00: It's about control.
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SPEAKER_00: It's about an oligarchy that they want to have permanently established here.
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SPEAKER_00: Where the rule of law means nothing, it becomes a police state, a surveillance state.
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SPEAKER_00: And things like what Nick and I are doing right now will wind up being illegal.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they will.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have the freedom of speech.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have free speech.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't have freedom of the press.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I will not be able to practice medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: I will have a flat camera in every freaking treatment room.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what they want.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: And that is not the America in the world that I want to live in.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: And none of us should want that.
20:10
SPEAKER_00: That is not what we went to school.
20:12
SPEAKER_00: It's not what we learned.
20:13
SPEAKER_00: It's not what our values and morals are.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: This this is a select group of human beings that are fucking.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: I can't even like find the word for it other than they live in
20:26
SPEAKER_00: a very dystopian reality that is disconnected from the lives that you and I leave.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: Live, excuse me, leave them, you know, it's it's it's they live in this alternate universe.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: Where they have so much money,
20:40
SPEAKER_00: they have so much power, and they don't know what to do with themselves.
20:43
SPEAKER_01: Has anyone seen Elysium?
20:47
SPEAKER_01: This is like that Elysium movie where the rich live in a ring floating
20:54
SPEAKER_01: above Earth watching the rest of us.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: No, that was Matt Damon.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: What was the one with Ethan Hawke?
21:02
SPEAKER_01: I don't remember.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: Gattaca.
21:03
SPEAKER_00: Gattaca.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: That's another one.
21:06
SPEAKER_01: It's as Orwellian of a society as you can think of.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: It's not Star Trek.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: Definitely not Star Trek.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: They're not the precursors to Star Trek.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: They're like the Borg.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: They want to consume everything and make you part of the collective.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, they're collective.
21:27
SPEAKER_01: They're collective.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:29
SPEAKER_01: We're drones.
21:30
SPEAKER_01: We would become a drone.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
21:32
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
21:37
SPEAKER_01: If we want a positive out of all of it,
21:40
SPEAKER_01: at least if they have torn down the institutions already,
21:45
SPEAKER_01: we may as well rebuild them in the image that we really want them to be and make
21:51
SPEAKER_01: a more inclusive and equitable and actual free society that is not slaves to
22:03
SPEAKER_01: Job, to a job, is not,
22:05
SPEAKER_01: are not slaves to capitalism and can actually have freedom to,
22:11
SPEAKER_01: you know, go be human, go live the human condition and go create and go have a job.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: If you want, do a field, be in a field that you love.
22:24
SPEAKER_01: Like Doc Eric,
22:26
SPEAKER_01: if he wants to remain a wound care specialist
22:28
SPEAKER_01: because he loves doing what he's doing, then he stays there.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: Nobody's going to push him out.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: He continues to make money doing it.
22:38
SPEAKER_01: But we can have a baseline.
22:38
SPEAKER_00: As much as I should be making because they won't change the conversion
22:41
SPEAKER_01: factor.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: But we can at least have put a baseline down for everyone.
22:48
SPEAKER_01: If we're going to tear everything apart, we have a lot of money that this nation can pull in.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Let's tear all that down then.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: I know a good place to start.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: And use it in a way that doesn't suck.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: Do what Mexico is doing right now.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Give everybody universal health care.
23:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Is that amazing?
23:04
SPEAKER_00: Mexico, right?
23:08
SPEAKER_00: Oregon, universal health care.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: Canada, universal health care.
23:14
SPEAKER_00: European Union.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Listen, I understand that.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: And we don't have to use their exact systems too.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: Everybody's like, well, their system sucks.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:23
SPEAKER_00: Make a better one.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, learn from their
23:27
SPEAKER_01: mistakes, make a better
23:28
SPEAKER_00: one.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: Every single society that everybody is like, oh, it's so much better over there.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: Let me let me tell everybody what it really is,
23:35
SPEAKER_00: because I spend a lot of time in Europe and I have a lot of European colleagues.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: There's a reason why they speak five languages in almost every European country.
23:43
SPEAKER_00: There's a reason why they're all educated.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: There's a reason why they are lapping us like we are an old lady with a walker.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: OK, in tech and science and math and engineering.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: In social.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: History and you want to name it and everything.
24:01
SPEAKER_00: OK, the reason why is because their societies understand that the responsibility of
24:09
SPEAKER_00: the wealthy is to fund society so that it eventually lowers the cost of living
24:15
SPEAKER_00: for everybody.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Because then you have more people educated,
24:19
SPEAKER_00: you have more people who are trained,
24:20
SPEAKER_00: you have more people who are skilled, who can do labor force work.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: And then that ultimately lifts everybody up and it elevates the amount of money that
24:32
SPEAKER_00: the countries are able to collect in income,
24:35
SPEAKER_00: which also means that it's OK to pay 50, 60 percent income taxes.
24:41
SPEAKER_00: OK, but what are they getting out of it?
24:43
SPEAKER_00: They have free universal health care.
24:45
SPEAKER_00: They have free education through four year university.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: We need to stop using the word free.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: They have universally funded healthcare.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: They have universally funded education.
24:57
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, they are multilingual.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: They have skill sets that we lack.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: And imagine how this entire... And they don't
25:10
SPEAKER_01: work as fucking hard as we do either.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: When they're in their professional...
25:13
SPEAKER_01: They take three hours off in the middle
25:14
SPEAKER_00: of the day.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: They go home and take a nap.
25:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, when they're in their professional days...
25:19
SPEAKER_01: They're not working eight, ten hour days, five, six days a week.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: They're working four days a week.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: They get three-day vacation or three-day weekends every weekend basically in a lot of areas.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: They have paid family leave.
25:39
SPEAKER_00: You don't lose your job if you get sick.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: You don't lose your health care if you get sick.
25:41
SPEAKER_00: You don't lose your house.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: You don't lose your house if you get sick.
25:56
SPEAKER_01: We're so fucking backwards because rich people in our nation just don't want to pay
26:00
SPEAKER_01: a little bit more in taxes and they don't want to have a little bit
26:03
SPEAKER_01: of accountability to give back to the society that made them fucking beyond wealthy.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: And now they're stealing from.
26:12
SPEAKER_01: And in the process,
26:14
SPEAKER_01: they're teaching and they're capitalizing on a cultural breakdown
26:18
SPEAKER_01: to cement their views as the right ones.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: So we get more things like the Cornell Seven.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: The seven men in that fraternity who...
26:29
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't going to go there today because that's...
26:31
SPEAKER_01: No, Ashley brought it up, but we have to mention it.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't going to do that today.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't think you and I appropriately are even of the right gender to speak
26:40
SPEAKER_00: on what happened over there because we have...
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Other than I will say what happened over there and what should have happened is
26:47
SPEAKER_00: a fucking disaster.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: It never should have occurred.
26:51
SPEAKER_00: And it's not just the seven.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: It's also the other 43 in that fucking chat that doesn't say anything either.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: And then the leadership at the university, what you made me do now?
26:59
SPEAKER_00: Now you're making me do what I didn't want to do.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
27:01
SPEAKER_00: No, I wanted to go here a little bit on this one.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: I was in a fraternity in college.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so was I.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: But you know what we didn't do?
27:09
SPEAKER_01: We didn't do shit like that.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Right.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: We didn't fucking gang rape people.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: We didn't create text message chains.
27:19
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying that to get any credit.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: That's like the basics.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: That's the fucking baseline of being human, is treating other people with humanity.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: I just want to say,
27:29
SPEAKER_00: part of what we did in our responsibility at the university that I was at,
27:34
SPEAKER_00: as part of our fraternity,
27:35
SPEAKER_00: was we would walk our sister sororities If it was late at night,
27:39
SPEAKER_00: we did that for them.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: That was part of making sure they were safe.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: My whole thing beyond all this is that there is no place in our society ever where
27:53
SPEAKER_00: that level of power and abuse goes
28:00
SPEAKER_00: Just it's never justified.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: It's never even real.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: It shouldn't exist.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: I mean, the men that do this,
28:05
SPEAKER_00: the men that defend it,
28:06
SPEAKER_00: the men that say nothing,
28:07
SPEAKER_00: the men that stay quiet are the ones that are just as guilty as those
28:11
SPEAKER_00: that performed it.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: And those men who are in that fraternity and the men like that
28:18
SPEAKER_01: who are doing those incredibly horrendous acts
28:24
SPEAKER_01: are being given privilege to do it.
28:29
SPEAKER_01: By the current government in the U.S.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: They're being told that it is okay, that what they're doing is right.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: They're seeing it as the example.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: You know,
28:41
SPEAKER_00: Ashley and I wrote a story a few months ago where the Me Too movement,
28:46
SPEAKER_00: we wrote this story.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: And Ashley was sharing a lot of her stuff in the article about where Me Too has become me only.
28:57
SPEAKER_00: I think we need to reverse it back.
28:59
SPEAKER_00: I think it's Me Too has to be, no, it happened to me.
29:04
SPEAKER_00: The Me Too movement needs to be, it happened to me and you can't whitewash it.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: You can't erase it from history.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: You can't delete it from your search history.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: You can't delete it from the factual events that happened.
29:16
SPEAKER_00: You can't rewrite history because we were talking about this off air was that
29:22
SPEAKER_00: the problem with our system,
29:24
SPEAKER_00: it's a criminal injustice system when it comes to rape and sexual assault
29:28
SPEAKER_00: and women are the victims because they have to relive that trauma
29:35
SPEAKER_00: just to get to
29:37
SPEAKER_00: the point where they could even get a day in court.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: And they should not have to do that.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: If there's DNA evidence, you're done.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have to make this like it's like where they did mandatory drug jailing
29:52
SPEAKER_00: for possession.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: Like if you're sexually assaulted,
29:57
SPEAKER_00: but we also have to go about the other thing where,
30:00
SPEAKER_00: you know, what's consensual, what's not.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: And then you start getting into the legal arguments of what was consensual versus what was not.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: No means fucking no.
30:10
SPEAKER_00: Get away means get away.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: Get the fuck out means get the fuck away from me.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: Period.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: Stop means stop.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: It's that red fucking octagon.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: You stop your car at a fucking stop sign, but when a woman says stop, what, it's a maybe?
30:25
SPEAKER_01: No.
30:26
SPEAKER_01: Stop means stop.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: The easy answer is anything but yes means no.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: Anything but an enthusiastic yes means no.
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, no coercion, none of that shit.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: And this is all of this behavior.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: None of it's new.
30:44
SPEAKER_01: None of it's new.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm not acting like any of this behavior is new.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: None of this fucking behavior that's going on is new.
30:51
SPEAKER_01: We've had themotherless.com shit with the online rape academy.
30:58
SPEAKER_01: We've had multiple instances of
31:04
SPEAKER_01: rape types, like gang rape types of things that go on.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: Did that just go unprosecuted or specifically by white men and young white men
31:17
SPEAKER_01: who have power complexes and just think they can take everything?
31:23
SPEAKER_01: Because the people in charge right now,
31:26
SPEAKER_01: those who are elected into office and who are leading institutions,
31:33
SPEAKER_01: be it government institutions,
31:35
SPEAKER_01: religious institutions, those who are leading are abusers.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: And they're teaching others to be abusers and they're taking everything they can
31:45
SPEAKER_01: because the rule of law is breaking down because that's what
31:49
SPEAKER_01: the current regime wants so that they can consolidate power,
31:53
SPEAKER_01: make everything more expensive.
31:55
SPEAKER_01: And then you live in a society of if you can take it, you can have it.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: And that's what they want.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: They want a society of if you are strong enough to take it, then you take it.
32:09
SPEAKER_01: And that's what they're teaching.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's what they're teaching people is that I'm a bully.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: And if I have the big enough stick and I beat you with it enough times,
32:20
SPEAKER_01: I can just take what I want from you no matter what.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, my daughter is a freshman at university.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Southeastern Conference School.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: You know, I worry about I know she's got a great head on her shoulders and she's smart.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: But I worry.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: I worry about getting that phone call.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: When one out of every four women have been sexually assaulted or will be a victim
32:48
SPEAKER_00: of sexual assault,
32:51
SPEAKER_00: you start getting into the sociology type of discussions about what does the effect
32:56
SPEAKER_00: of actual divorce rates in the United States have on men,
32:59
SPEAKER_00: especially when they're boys.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: And they lose that continuity of seeing that the relationship,
33:08
SPEAKER_00: a healthy adult relationship between their mom and dad versus this,
33:14
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:14
SPEAKER_00: a dystrophic type of broken marriage, anger, you know, how that affects these kids.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: Both men and women.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, both boys and girls are affected similarly and differently.
33:31
SPEAKER_00: You know,
33:32
SPEAKER_00: you start bringing up,
33:35
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:35
SPEAKER_00: food intake and food choices and the processing of foods and the hormones and all
33:39
SPEAKER_00: the unhealthy crap that,
33:41
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:42
SPEAKER_00: increases aggression,
33:43
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:44
SPEAKER_00: amount of sugar,
33:45
SPEAKER_00: you know,
33:46
SPEAKER_00: like it starts cross-platforming into a lot of societal,
33:51
SPEAKER_00: it starts becoming the 10-headed hydro, really.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: And it's really, it's like the wagon wheel, right?
33:57
SPEAKER_00: It's like you have the centerpiece of what the problem is,
33:59
SPEAKER_00: and then you have all the spokes that kind of deflect out around the wheel of all
34:03
SPEAKER_00: the environmental impacts, societal impacts, nutritional impacts.
34:08
SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, and that's what the sociologists study.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: And
34:17
SPEAKER_00: guess, do we say that men are a disease?
34:23
SPEAKER_00: Do we actually call that our gender's behavior over the last
34:31
SPEAKER_00: 50 years documented is
34:34
SPEAKER_00: a disease to women that we are technically very dangerous for their health?
34:42
SPEAKER_00: Do we walk around with yellow Surgeon General warning labels on our clothes like before?
34:48
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we would earn it.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: We would have earned it.
34:54
SPEAKER_01: And we can't fix the problem by creating a brand new problem.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: You don't like the Surgeon General warning label on them?
35:06
SPEAKER_00: No, it reminds me too much of people having to put yellow
35:09
SPEAKER_01: stars on themselves
35:11
SPEAKER_01: and pink triangles and shit like that.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean, listen, Japan,
35:17
SPEAKER_00: you can't even get a firearm in Japan until you have a psychological evaluation.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like, it's okay if we... Not here.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: Like, I get it.
35:28
SPEAKER_01: Guns are... We'll go on to that just a little bit.
35:34
SPEAKER_01: That was just the point I
35:35
SPEAKER_00: was making,
35:35
SPEAKER_00: that in order to get a firearm in Japan,
35:37
SPEAKER_00: you need to have a psychological examination.
35:39
SPEAKER_00: But here, it's not required to have a psychological
35:43
SPEAKER_01: examination to do anything.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: You could be a domestic abuser and get a gun in the States.
35:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, you can...
35:51
SPEAKER_01: We need restrictions.
35:54
SPEAKER_01: If we can restrict everything else, then we can restrict the Second Amendment.
35:57
SPEAKER_00: But we can't.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, let's not restrict AI, though, because, you know, they don't do anything.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: AI is safe.
36:02
SPEAKER_00: By the way, who won the 2020 election, by the way?
36:04
SPEAKER_00: According to America.gov,
36:06
SPEAKER_00: Donald Trump lost the 2020 election and was convicted criminally by
36:11
SPEAKER_00: the New York State Court with 34 counts of...
36:14
SPEAKER_00: Class one felony.
36:15
SPEAKER_01: So they keep shooting themselves in the foot with these darn AI models.
36:20
SPEAKER_00: It's the United States, by the way, too.
36:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
36:23
SPEAKER_00: I
36:26
SPEAKER_00: mean, I just like at what point do we take the car keys away from demented grandpa?
36:33
SPEAKER_00: We start reigning in.
36:34
SPEAKER_00: We start impeaching cabinet secretaries for violating their oaths of office
36:38
SPEAKER_00: and profiteering and harming the American population.
36:42
SPEAKER_01: Well, it can get done when we don't have a Speaker of the House who puts Congress
36:49
SPEAKER_01: on vacation every other day.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: And we can't have a Speaker of the House who decides to meet with Jared Kushner either.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Correct.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: Like the Democrats need to have some backbone.
37:00
SPEAKER_01: A set like this?
37:01
SPEAKER_01: A set like this?
37:03
SPEAKER_01: Well, no.
37:04
SPEAKER_00: Not to be gender specific, but you need to have a set.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't care who wears the pants.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Literally.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: We just need adults.
37:17
SPEAKER_01: We need a Speaker of the House who's going to uphold the letter of the Constitution.
37:24
SPEAKER_01: And hold the purse.
37:26
SPEAKER_01: And hold the purse strings and
37:32
SPEAKER_01: hold people accountable and tell the children
37:37
SPEAKER_01: who are running around in Congress that To sit down and shut the fuck up.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: And one, Hakeem Jeffries is not the person to do it.
37:48
SPEAKER_01: We need a woman who can do that because the only people who I've ever seen
37:51
SPEAKER_01: in my life who can whip up a room of people into an organized fashion in such
37:57
SPEAKER_01: a clean way and provoke a line of response
38:02
SPEAKER_01: that is actually fundamentally correct have been women.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: We need...
38:09
SPEAKER_00: I think we've
38:10
SPEAKER_01: talked about this.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: I think we've done over the last 10,000 years fucking up the world.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: I think women are having a shot at just running.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like we're good.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
38:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm good.
38:20
SPEAKER_01: We don't need to be in that type of power.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: We've proven we cannot do it correctly.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: No.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: And the US is failing at it miserably right now.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: And we need somebody who's going to lead and somebody who is willing and able
38:38
SPEAKER_01: To step into the role of interim president becomes needed because we need
38:46
SPEAKER_01: the conviction to actually impeach,
38:47
SPEAKER_01: convict,
38:48
SPEAKER_01: remove, and then prosecute the criminals that are running our government right now.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: And Hakeem Jeffries is definitely not the person who's going to do that.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: Like what Ashley just wrote, men need to sit your ass down.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: We do.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: We do.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Listen, Ashley, you can be Speaker of the House.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: How's that?
39:12
SPEAKER_00: You want to be the Speaker of the House?
39:13
SPEAKER_00: Because it doesn't have to be somebody in Congress.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: No, as long as they're constitutionally eligible to hold the office of the President.
39:19
SPEAKER_00: As long as they're over 35, you're good to go.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: And a natural born
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SPEAKER_01: U.S. citizen.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm nominating Ashley.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: I nominate Ellie Leonard.
39:33
SPEAKER_00: Ellie's got four kids.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: She's too busy.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's too busy.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: I nominate Melissa Corrigan.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
39:40
SPEAKER_00: I nominate Tara Palmieri.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: Well, we've got a good list started.
39:49
SPEAKER_01: Heather Cox Richardson.
39:51
SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
39:53
SPEAKER_00: Ooh, I like that one.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: Heather Delaney Reese.
40:04
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we're calling out all of our women Substackers.
40:06
SPEAKER_00: That's it.
40:13
SPEAKER_00: Well, Marnie can't do it because she's Canadian.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: And Soso can't do it.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: She's Canadian.
40:22
SPEAKER_00: And let's see.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: Dana could do it.
40:30
SPEAKER_01: Dana Dubois, first Speaker of the House.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: Dana could do it.
40:32
SPEAKER_01: Dana could
40:33
SPEAKER_00: do it.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: I forgot about Dana.
40:34
SPEAKER_00: Dana could do it.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: Julie Roginski could do it.
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Julie could do it.
40:40
SPEAKER_01: Michelle Kinney could do it, I think.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Michelle Kinney could do it.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
40:44
SPEAKER_00: Yes, we're calling out the Mayday Network to be the Speaker of the House jointly.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: AOC could do it.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: I think she's better off.
40:54
SPEAKER_00: I think she should become,
40:56
SPEAKER_00: my own personal opinion,
40:58
SPEAKER_00: I really do think that she should focus on running and becoming a senator from
41:03
SPEAKER_00: the state of New York and just being a very strong voice in the Senate.
41:10
SPEAKER_00: You know, everybody forgets, she's already been in Congress 10 years, by the way.
41:13
SPEAKER_00: She's a seasoned veteran now.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: She's not...
41:18
SPEAKER_00: She's not the new member of the squad that came in.
41:20
SPEAKER_00: Like it's she's a seasoned veteran.
41:22
SPEAKER_00: She's 10 years in the Congress.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, how about this?
41:32
SPEAKER_00: I would just I would nominate somebody that is just going to just irk the shit
41:36
SPEAKER_00: of Trump every day.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Just that will just drive him fucking batshit crazy.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: And there's only two people I can think of that that would do that with.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: OK, one would be Kamala Harris.
41:51
SPEAKER_00: Do you imagine him having to do whatever?
41:54
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: The thing is, we need not only to irk him, but to actually do the damn job.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: Right.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Well, she'll do it.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: Maybe they'll do the job.
42:03
SPEAKER_01: Now, here's my question.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: Can a former president be the Speaker
42:07
SPEAKER_01: of the House?
42:08
SPEAKER_00: Can a former president be the Speaker of the House?
42:10
SPEAKER_01: He's not eligible to be the interim president.
42:18
SPEAKER_01: He's already held the office twice, so he can't be interim president.
42:20
SPEAKER_00: No, the Constitution says the president can only be elected to two terms.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't say what happens in the event of a succession.
42:31
SPEAKER_00: That was a gray area.
42:35
SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: That would really just irked it or put Michelle in that office.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: I was going to say put Michelle because that would irk him probably even more.
42:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh, my God.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: I think putting in a little enough color Who is a strong-willed woman of color as
42:55
SPEAKER_00: the Speaker of the House, would just literally burn that noodle upstairs of his.
43:01
SPEAKER_00: It would just literally just, you could just see the frying pan overheating.
43:07
SPEAKER_00: He literally would lose his shit in the middle of the State of the Union.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine he's doing the State of the Union and she's sitting behind him?
43:13
SPEAKER_00: And he's just like, and he knows that she just lays her eyes right behind him, just yonk.
43:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean, he probably would not even do the State of the Union.
43:21
SPEAKER_00: He probably would just abdicate it.
43:23
SPEAKER_00: And let Vance do it.
43:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:26
SPEAKER_00: Well, and in the end, he's going to be dead at some point in the next few years.
43:36
SPEAKER_01: It's just we need to get to where we actually can do these things,
43:42
SPEAKER_01: where he can be held accountable,
43:44
SPEAKER_01: where JD Vance can be held accountable,
43:47
SPEAKER_01: where the Supreme Court can be held accountable,
43:51
SPEAKER_01: where All of the cabinet secretaries can be held accountable as we need to win.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: And the deputy secretaries, by the way.
43:59
SPEAKER_01: We need to win in November.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: And the administrators.
44:03
SPEAKER_01: So this is the other part that we all forget.
44:05
SPEAKER_01: Stormy Daniels would be a funny one.
44:08
SPEAKER_00: No, this is what we all forget.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: We all focus on the cabinet secretaries,
44:11
SPEAKER_00: but I want everybody to understand that we have positions in the government
44:14
SPEAKER_00: where there are administrators, like at CMS, like at the FAA, at the FTC.
44:22
SPEAKER_00: At the FCC.
44:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: Those motherfuckers need to go to.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: And their deputies.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: And.
44:33
SPEAKER_01: Like I would just I would just.
44:35
SPEAKER_01: This is also a good point.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: This is also a good point where we can ask the question to because it's going
44:41
SPEAKER_01: to have to get asked is can a criminal president pardon other criminals?
44:51
SPEAKER_00: Well, see, here's the thing.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: So other criminals, if you're talking about other people, see, here's the thing.
44:56
SPEAKER_00: And this is and this is a really good legal question.
44:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't and I'm not an attorney, even though I do a lot of health care stuff.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: The question becomes,
45:04
SPEAKER_00: can the president preemptively pardon people for
45:09
SPEAKER_00: whose crimes have not been convicted?
45:12
SPEAKER_00: Because technically the pardons there to alleviate the criminality
45:17
SPEAKER_00: of what you've done by conviction.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: Which is basically clemency.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: That's what a pardon is.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: So the preemptive pardon,
45:26
SPEAKER_00: so won't charge them for something else that the pardon doesn't cover, right?
45:31
SPEAKER_00: Like you, like, I mean, okay, fine.
45:34
SPEAKER_00: We're just gonna,
45:35
SPEAKER_00: and I'm gonna pretty much bank that he's not smart enough or
45:37
SPEAKER_00: the attorneys aren't smart enough to draft pardon,
45:41
SPEAKER_00: preemptive pardons on racketeering.
45:44
SPEAKER_00: Because you cannot pardon racketeering because it's an interstate federal violation.
45:52
SPEAKER_00: And fine, okay, pardon you for the time you were in office.
45:55
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you did one thing on January 21st, 2029.
45:58
SPEAKER_00: Sorry, now you're not covered.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: You're no longer in the administration, so you're not covered for what you did.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: So that's what I would do.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: I would just chart, including Trump.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, the day he gets out of office, he's no longer the president.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: He's no longer covered by official acts.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: You nail his ass on racketeering.
46:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: And securities fraud and everything else that you can stick to him financially
46:22
SPEAKER_00: that carries a class A felony under under the U.S. Code.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: Well, again, the question is all that
46:30
SPEAKER_00: money that he stole from everybody on attorneys.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: Is the pardon power something that is worth keeping?
46:38
SPEAKER_01: And should we allow it to be He's going to consider it to pardon all of his cabinet
46:46
SPEAKER_01: and administrators that he wants to.
46:49
SPEAKER_01: He's going to pardon all of them because he knows
46:52
SPEAKER_01: that they've been doing criminal activity for him.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: The American people are not going to sit well with the idea of, say,
47:17
SPEAKER_01: Pete Hegseth,
47:18
SPEAKER_01: a known war criminal at this point,
47:22
SPEAKER_01: who has unilaterally decided that boats in the Caribbean are up to be blown up
47:27
SPEAKER_01: without any due process and is just killing people.
47:32
SPEAKER_01: And the UN is actively looking into crimes against humanity for him.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't think the people of the U.S.
47:39
SPEAKER_01: are going to be satisfied with going, oh, but Trump pardoned him.
47:44
SPEAKER_01: He's fine.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: He can get away with all that.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you know what?
47:46
SPEAKER_00: The European Union didn't.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: And if we rejoin the ICC.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: No.
47:54
SPEAKER_01: That's again,
47:55
SPEAKER_01: that's a scapegoat for the U.S.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: people to put accountability off of our own shoulders and give it to others
48:01
SPEAKER_01: to be able to handle it for us because we're too fucking weak
48:06
SPEAKER_01: to handle accountability for ourselves.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: Because we have to hand it off to the ICC to take
48:12
SPEAKER_00: care of
48:12
SPEAKER_01: it.
48:13
SPEAKER_00: So according to Article 2, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution.
48:17
SPEAKER_00: To issue a preemptive pardon to members of the cabinet administration
48:20
SPEAKER_00: for federal offenses,
48:21
SPEAKER_00: a criminally convicted president retains the full constitutional authority
48:24
SPEAKER_00: under Article 2, Section 2.
48:26
SPEAKER_00: However, there are only three explicit textual limits on the clemency power.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: One, it applies only to federal offenses, not state or civil liability.
48:36
SPEAKER_00: It cannot be used to prevent or overturn impeachment.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: And it cannot pardon future uncommitted conduct,
48:42
SPEAKER_00: which means the crimes must have already occurred.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: A president's personal criminal conviction does not diminish or suspend any article
48:50
SPEAKER_00: to executive power,
48:51
SPEAKER_00: including the pardon power, as long as the president remains in office.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: Now, legal education 101 here, there's the ex parte Garland in 1866.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: So the concept of a preemptive pardon was clemency granted Before criminal charges,
49:07
SPEAKER_00: indictment or trial is firmly established in American jurisprudence.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: So in 1866,
49:12
SPEAKER_00: the Supreme Court held that the clemency power extended to every offense known to
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SPEAKER_00: the law and may be exercised at any time after its commission,
49:20
SPEAKER_00: either before legal proceedings are taken or during their pendency or
49:24
SPEAKER_00: after conviction and judgment.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: So the historical precedent was that Ford gave
49:29
SPEAKER_00: a full unconditional preemptive pardon to Richard Nixon.
49:32
SPEAKER_00: Carter issued a broad preemptive categorical pardon to Vietnam War draft evaders,
49:37
SPEAKER_00: and President George H.W.
49:38
SPEAKER_00: Bush preemptively pardoned Casper Weinberger and other officials before
49:42
SPEAKER_00: the Iran-Contra trial concluded,
49:45
SPEAKER_00: and then Biden issued the preemptive pardon to his son.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: So what does this actually sit?
49:54
SPEAKER_00: It would reinforce the principle that
49:56
SPEAKER_00: a president can shield their own executive branch personnel from criminal liability
50:00
SPEAKER_00: for actions taken during an administration,
50:03
SPEAKER_00: which insulates the government operations from subsequent federal prosecution.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: It would formally cement the position and the pardon power that is functional
50:12
SPEAKER_00: and non-reviewable.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: And it would decouple it from the executive exercising it as a convicted felon.
50:19
SPEAKER_00: And then there's an expansion of the self-protective clemency where it would create
50:24
SPEAKER_00: a pathway for a president to insulate co-conspirators by pardoning the subordinates
50:29
SPEAKER_00: who might otherwise cooperate with prosecutors or to testify against the president
50:33
SPEAKER_00: in a joint criminal scheme.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: The clemency acts as a de facto shield.
50:38
SPEAKER_00: Now, so the legal challenges would look like this.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: One would be like the direct indictment, right?
50:45
SPEAKER_00: The executive branch cannot sue itself to cancel a pardon while the president's in office.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: So a legal challenge would therefore require a future administration
50:54
SPEAKER_00: a special prosecutor to indict a pardon cabinet member anyway.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: So what would happen is the defendant would move to dismiss the cabinet invoking
51:02
SPEAKER_00: the pardon as an absolute defense.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: And then the DOJ would then argue that the pardon is now is legally void.
51:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
51:10
SPEAKER_00: And then so the other one with this would fall into is that the co-conspirators on
51:14
SPEAKER_00: the executive side that violated the president's oath to take care of that
51:19
SPEAKER_00: the laws be faithfully executed would technically be an obstruction of justice
51:23
SPEAKER_00: and corruption argument.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: And this was the counter argument in Trump v.
51:27
SPEAKER_00: United States 2024 where the Supreme Court ruled that
51:31
SPEAKER_00: a president possesses absolute immunity.
51:33
SPEAKER_00: And here we go with this fucking Supreme Court again.
51:35
SPEAKER_00: For article two powers,
51:37
SPEAKER_00: because the pardon power is explicitly committed to the president by
51:40
SPEAKER_00: the Constitution,
51:41
SPEAKER_00: courts have historically held that the judiciary cannot inquire into
51:44
SPEAKER_00: the president's motives when granting clemency.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: So, you know,
51:51
SPEAKER_00: there are very few evidence in the judicial system for them to overturn
51:54
SPEAKER_00: an article two pardon.
51:59
SPEAKER_00: The primary constitutional remedy designed by the framers for the corrupt use
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SPEAKER_00: of clemency are political.
52:05
SPEAKER_00: It's an impeachment and removal by Congress.
52:09
SPEAKER_00: So here's the thing.
52:11
SPEAKER_00: If this Democratic Congress,
52:14
SPEAKER_00: hopefully that we have one with the Senate,
52:16
SPEAKER_00: the problem is they're not going to have two-thirds to fucking convict.
52:19
SPEAKER_01: That's my thing is the only way that you truly stop it because it's
52:25
SPEAKER_01: a political thing is you have to have enough to in to impeach convicted or
52:32
SPEAKER_00: or we just get the state attorney general to get really busy
52:35
SPEAKER_00: and they start indicting these people on state charges
52:40
SPEAKER_01: which then further fractures
52:42
SPEAKER_01: which as great as that is going to be if we do that it further fractures the nation
52:48
SPEAKER_01: and divides it on state boundaries even
52:50
SPEAKER_00: further loosening the republic
52:53
SPEAKER_01: And the union
52:54
SPEAKER_01: that we have,
52:55
SPEAKER_01: which is where federalism could save our asses and maybe we get really busy
53:02
SPEAKER_01: and replace the current Supreme Court with one that would actually look into
53:06
SPEAKER_01: the pardon power.
53:08
SPEAKER_01: Or, hear me out,
53:10
SPEAKER_01: we have a constitutional convention in the future,
53:15
SPEAKER_01: in the near-ish future,
53:16
SPEAKER_01: and we change the pardon power so that if we keep a pardon power,
53:21
SPEAKER_01: it is explicitly reviewable.
53:23
SPEAKER_01: And it has to be reviewed before it can be approved.
53:26
SPEAKER_01: And it has to be an independent review process that is outside the hands of
53:31
SPEAKER_01: the executive branch or the branch that is issuing a pardon or clemency
53:37
SPEAKER_01: of some sort.
53:39
SPEAKER_01: Maybe we can just put,
53:40
SPEAKER_01: maybe we can actually put working guardrails into our system that don't allow
53:45
SPEAKER_01: for these types of abuses to happen.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: So here's the thing.
53:51
SPEAKER_00: We couldn't really technically do an American neuron,
53:54
SPEAKER_00: so to speak, because there's a prohibition on military commissions for civilians.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: However,
53:58
SPEAKER_00: the president being the commander in chief,
54:01
SPEAKER_00: you know, there's an argument to be made there, right?
54:05
SPEAKER_01: Well, Pete Hegg said that at least we don't have to worry about.
54:07
SPEAKER_01: He can be recalled to service.
54:09
SPEAKER_01: He can be remanded into service and then held up on charges of the unbecoming of an officer.
54:17
SPEAKER_00: Right.
54:18
SPEAKER_01: Actions on becoming of an officer and face UCMJ charges
54:22
SPEAKER_01: because he has absolutely violated UCMJ and the idea of acting in a gentlemanly way
54:31
SPEAKER_01: as an officer,
54:33
SPEAKER_01: which extends to your post-service career as well,
54:37
SPEAKER_01: Pete Hegseth, because that didn't just go away.
54:41
SPEAKER_01: UCMJ is forever, bro.
54:44
SPEAKER_01: And so you can be remanded into service.
54:47
SPEAKER_01: Back into the army and then put into jail and face court martial.
54:53
SPEAKER_01: And you should.
54:55
SPEAKER_01: And we should do that.
54:57
SPEAKER_01: We should even go back and do that for people like Michael Flynn and others
55:02
SPEAKER_01: who have contributed to this is if they were in the service,
55:06
SPEAKER_01: they get remanded back into service and they face UCMJ for violating their oath
55:11
SPEAKER_01: of office or that's the oath that they swore for enlistment.
55:15
SPEAKER_01: And they get held accountable on a military side because we have the power to do that.
55:20
SPEAKER_01: That would allow the military to regain its trust and break the politicization of the services.
55:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, everybody's talking about the ICC and I just brought it up.
55:33
SPEAKER_00: And then I remembered a little bit of my history and I realized
55:35
SPEAKER_00: that our own government has basically sabotaged the ICC.
55:43
SPEAKER_00: And the reason for that is because of under Article 2,
55:46
SPEAKER_00: Section 2,
55:47
SPEAKER_00: Clause 2 of the U.S.
55:48
SPEAKER_00: Constitution,
55:50
SPEAKER_00: a treaty cannot be combining unless the advice and consent of two-thirds of
55:53
SPEAKER_00: the majority of the U.S. Senate.
55:54
SPEAKER_00: Clinton signed the Rome Statute in 2000, but he never submitted it to Senate approval.
56:02
SPEAKER_00: And then there's a statutory blockade that the American,
56:06
SPEAKER_00: you're aware of this one,
56:06
SPEAKER_00: it's the American Service Members Protection Act of 2002,
56:10
SPEAKER_00: which was the Hague Invasion Act.
56:13
SPEAKER_00: So it forbade federal,
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SPEAKER_00: state and local agencies from cooperating with the ICC to prohibit extradition
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SPEAKER_00: of US citizens to the court.
56:22
SPEAKER_00: And it bars US military aid to ICC members unless waived.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:28
SPEAKER_00: So the only way this is really going to work by the fatal flaw, this is it.
56:33
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
56:34
SPEAKER_00: This is the fatal flaw.
56:36
SPEAKER_00: It, it literally We need 67.
56:41
SPEAKER_00: You'd have to be new legislation that literally states that Congress passed,
56:49
SPEAKER_00: you know, we have to survive a veto.
56:54
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of work ahead.
56:55
SPEAKER_01: This is a lot of, this is only the start.
56:58
SPEAKER_01: This is only election number one.
56:59
SPEAKER_00: And this is why elections have consequences.
57:01
SPEAKER_00: And this is why 2026 is important.
57:05
SPEAKER_00: Whatever midterms in 2027 there are, whatever Senate seats are up, we've got to win those.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: And then the big kahuni in 2028 is the presidency,
57:14
SPEAKER_00: the executive branch, Congress again, okay, and another one-third of the Senate.
57:20
SPEAKER_00: And if we can snake up enough seats between now and then, maybe we can get to cloture.
57:26
SPEAKER_00: Because when you have 60, you can put a lot of pressure on six Republican senators to play ball.
57:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
57:37
SPEAKER_01: and when you have Trump gone,
57:42
SPEAKER_01: that won't end all of what is going on, but it will loosen the cult leader from it.
57:51
SPEAKER_00: Cut off all the heads of the Hydra.
57:53
SPEAKER_01: And the rest of them will start floundering for their own interests,
57:57
SPEAKER_01: and that's when you can start picking off weak members of the Senate.
58:02
SPEAKER_00: Can you imagine, this is like the whole, this is that whole how long can you tread water joke?
58:11
SPEAKER_00: Right.
58:12
SPEAKER_00: Because once once Trump is gone,
58:14
SPEAKER_00: the MAGA floodgate is going to open up and they're going to be like just sniping
58:21
SPEAKER_00: and circular firing squad each other to get to power.
58:24
SPEAKER_00: Because remember, yes, what's the whole purpose of MAGA?
58:27
SPEAKER_00: It's power.
58:28
SPEAKER_00: It's the Republican Party is about power, not about governing.
58:31
SPEAKER_00: So let them snipe each other.
58:33
SPEAKER_00: And they're going to try to bring back all the one thing that the Democrats cannot do.
58:37
SPEAKER_00: OK, is not.
58:39
SPEAKER_00: Relive the same experiences.
58:41
SPEAKER_00: Just because you won the election doesn't mean you get to go super far left.
58:47
SPEAKER_00: You just have to be left of center to create progressive policies that can
58:54
SPEAKER_00: then function without pissing off everybody.
58:58
SPEAKER_00: Here's the thing.
59:01
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sorry, I'm just a left center guy.
59:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a left guy.
59:03
SPEAKER_00: We can be progressive.
59:06
SPEAKER_00: In this nation, and I advocate for a lot of
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SPEAKER_01: progressive ideas.
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SPEAKER_00: And be responsible.
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SPEAKER_01: I advocate, yeah, we can be responsibly progressive.
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SPEAKER_01: We can advocate for those ideas.
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SPEAKER_01: And then actually come up with a real plan to implement them.
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SPEAKER_01: Not a derivative name like Project 2029 or something stupid like that,
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SPEAKER_01: but we do need a We do need a plan that all Democrats can follow
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SPEAKER_01: or all progressive minded individuals can follow to shift and force the overtime.
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SPEAKER_01: No defunding the police.
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SPEAKER_01: None of this stupid shit.
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SPEAKER_01: How about the cultural discussion back?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, sure, we can defund areas within our police infrastructure.
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SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: But we need a better slogan than defund the police because I don't want
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SPEAKER_01: to just defund I want to refund social services so that instead of
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SPEAKER_01: a police officer having to be the only emergency responder that's available
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SPEAKER_01: to come out to a crisis situation,
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SPEAKER_01: when I call 911, I could be automatically refunded.
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SPEAKER_01: Routed to a mental health responder.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: That goes out to that location who could then,
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SPEAKER_01: if needed,
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SPEAKER_01: call for police backup because they're part of the same social service program.
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SPEAKER_01: And we could route it just like we do with first responders for firefighters,
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SPEAKER_01: for EMS, for police right now, too.
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SPEAKER_01: We could expand our social services.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's a dream we can easily put together.
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SPEAKER_01: With what we already have for a basic system without having to change a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's not that it would get more expensive for more for normal people.
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SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't.
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SPEAKER_00: We already know it would actually be less expensive because we wouldn't be less expensive.
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SPEAKER_00: We wouldn't have to incarcerate so many people.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And we can actually get preventative care to people.
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SPEAKER_01: We need to talk about policy in a way that gets people excited because what MAGA did
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SPEAKER_01: and what all authoritarian movements end up doing,
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SPEAKER_01: which ignites the cultural side of it, is they grasp onto a form of utopia.
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SPEAKER_01: And they give their people, their followers, an image to look towards.
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SPEAKER_01: They give people a dream to go towards.
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SPEAKER_01: A golden idol.
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SPEAKER_01: A golden idol of some sort.
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SPEAKER_01: A golden calf.
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SPEAKER_01: A golden trump.
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SPEAKER_01: Whatever it is, they give them something to look towards.
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SPEAKER_01: And they say, this is what we can make great.
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SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
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SPEAKER_01: We can do that too.
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SPEAKER_01: We can do that too.
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SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
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SPEAKER_01: We were doing all that.
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SPEAKER_01: Star Trek is a great future.
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SPEAKER_01: I want Star Trek style future.
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SPEAKER_00: Post-World War II, we were doing everything great.
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SPEAKER_00: Where things got derailed, and I'm sorry, but where things got derailed, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: It was Reagan.
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SPEAKER_00: Reagan was the beginning of the end of the process of getting this country derailed.
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SPEAKER_00: The systemic deregulation of the insurance industry,
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SPEAKER_00: Of the banking institutions,
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SPEAKER_00: of the stock exchange,
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SPEAKER_00: all these things that these oligarchy motherfuckers created over
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SPEAKER_00: the last 40 years have led us to where we are right now,
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SPEAKER_00: which has literally been the collapse of American capitalism.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't make anything anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't produce things anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't We should be the epicenter of manufacturing,
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SPEAKER_00: of ingenuity, of innovation, of engineering, of science and medicine.
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SPEAKER_00: Of cultural dialogue, of art.
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SPEAKER_00: Of art and music.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
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SPEAKER_00: We are the greatest country that has ever been developed in the modern history of the world.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay?
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SPEAKER_00: We are supposed to be a
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SPEAKER_01: cultural melting pot.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: We're supposed to be that shining star on a hill.
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SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: And we can be there again,
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SPEAKER_00: and we can do this again,
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SPEAKER_00: but more importantly is we can do it again because Americans throughout history,
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SPEAKER_00: throughout our 250 years,
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SPEAKER_00: have been asked to step up when it has gotten the hardest,
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SPEAKER_00: when it's been the most difficult,
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SPEAKER_00: and we have never backed down from that challenge.
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SPEAKER_00: The one thing that binds all Americans I don't care whether you're red,
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SPEAKER_00: blue, green, purple, white, it doesn't matter, okay?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care if you live in Alabama.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care if you live in Florida.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care if you live in Michigan or you live in California.
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SPEAKER_00: The one thing that has bound us is the document that says we hold these truths
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SPEAKER_00: to be self-evident,
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SPEAKER_00: that we are all created equal,
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SPEAKER_00: that we all have the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.
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SPEAKER_00: And that we empower our government through the voice of the people, not through a few.
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SPEAKER_00: Our country was founded because we didn't want to live under the boot of a king.
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SPEAKER_00: So go fucking vote.
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SPEAKER_01: Until then, come support us.
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SPEAKER_01: Come support the work that we're doing.
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SPEAKER_01: Come support me here at Sick of this Shit Publications.
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SPEAKER_01: That was a great way to transition to the end there, Eric.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: That was completely impromptu, by the way.
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SPEAKER_01: Use your civic power to go vote and make your voice heard so that you cannot be silenced.
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SPEAKER_01: And if enough of
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SPEAKER_01: us do it or when enough of us do it,
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SPEAKER_01: they cannot silence us because it is a government of the people,
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SPEAKER_01: by the people, and for the people.
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SPEAKER_01: We will make it from the people.
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SPEAKER_01: The voice comes from the people and the people are going to speak really loudly.
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SPEAKER_01: So come join Sick of this Shit Publications and Just Suck Less with us here.
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SPEAKER_01: Be excited about the opportunity that we can move forward,
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SPEAKER_01: that we can do something different,
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SPEAKER_01: that we can change the cultural discussion,
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SPEAKER_01: that we can have a better conversation And we can take accountability
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SPEAKER_01: and responsibility as men and as people and do better and be better and force others
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SPEAKER_01: to be better around us so that we no longer have stories of shitheads like
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SPEAKER_01: the Cornell 7 and the entire fraternity behind them that did nothing to stop
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SPEAKER_01: the abuse of that young woman.
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SPEAKER_00: I want, I want,
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SPEAKER_00: I know we're going,
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SPEAKER_00: I want Everybody's got to remember,
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SPEAKER_00: by the way, Trump's been president for six years.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's not forget that.
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SPEAKER_00: Six years we've been dealing with this fucking nonsense.
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SPEAKER_00: So I want this little period of American history to be a speed bump
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SPEAKER_00: in our future greatness that we had to get through this to become
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SPEAKER_00: the greatest country, period.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay?
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SPEAKER_00: That we use these Bootlicking stupid shit people as rungs of a ladder.
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SPEAKER_00: And we bring everybody up the ladder.
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SPEAKER_00: I want endowments to universities, to cultural institutions.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't need to build more stadiums.
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SPEAKER_00: We need to build society.
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SPEAKER_00: And build it properly with education, with mindfulness, with sincerity, and with kindness.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's me, Dr. Eric Lulove.
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SPEAKER_00: You can find me on Substack at DrEricLulove.com.
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SPEAKER_00: You can find my website at DrLulove.com.
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SPEAKER_00: You can also read my stuff all over Blue Ant Media.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes you just got to just be whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: That's my tribute to the Gen Xe Club right there.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: And make sure that if you have the ability to bring others to vote,
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SPEAKER_01: And they need that ability,
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SPEAKER_00: And vote the whole ballot.
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SPEAKER_00: Just don't vote the national elections.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't just vote.
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SPEAKER_01: Make sure you know what's going on local
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SPEAKER_01: so you can vote for your local elections
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SPEAKER_01: because local is as important.
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SPEAKER_01: Judges are important.
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SPEAKER_00: Vote your judges.
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SPEAKER_00: Do your research on your judges, your county boards.
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SPEAKER_00: Learn, read, take 20 minutes before you go vote and just get more educated.
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SPEAKER_00: Please continue to support Nick, continue to support my work.
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SPEAKER_00: We miss our friend Evan so much and he'll hopefully be able to join us soon
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SPEAKER_00: If you agree with a post, restack it.
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SPEAKER_00: That's how we build a bigger community with everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: So, Nick, I'm grateful for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: Pete Hegg said to go double fuck himself for being a giant piece of shit.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_01: You can go double fuck yourself, Pete Hegg said.
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SPEAKER_00: I have to get one of those.
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SPEAKER_01: It was from Rock, LaHoma.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_01: It's a little Rock, Oklahoma that I got from a friend.
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SPEAKER_01: So everyone, thank you for being here.
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SPEAKER_01: Eric, brother, I appreciate you.
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SPEAKER_01: Evan, can't wait to have you back again, hopefully sometime soon.
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SPEAKER_00: And best of everything to your family.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_00: I know you're going through a lot right now.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: And everybody, I will be off the show for a few weeks.
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SPEAKER_00: I will be in Europe if I can kind of maybe check in because it'll be 6 p.m.,
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SPEAKER_00: but it'll be dinner time for me.
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SPEAKER_00: Next Thursday, I will be in Barcelona.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll be in Spain.
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SPEAKER_00: You'll see stuff being posted.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm doing a Michelin tour in San Sebastian.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm going to go to the largest cap per capita of Michelin star restaurants in
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SPEAKER_00: the world in Spain.
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SPEAKER_00: So I can't wait.
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SPEAKER_00: My stomach is already there.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm ready.
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SPEAKER_00: I just have to follow it.
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SPEAKER_01: And we will not be taking a break.
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SPEAKER_01: We're going to see if we can get someone to come fill in for a couple weeks for us.
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SPEAKER_01: And
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SPEAKER_00: I will be back at the end of October,
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SPEAKER_00: right before Halloween, and maybe we'll do a Halloween show.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
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SPEAKER_00: We could actually dress up as real Americans.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, wait, that's these costumes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I wear every day.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what we're doing here, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what I do.
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SPEAKER_00: Everybody have a great day.
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SPEAKER_00: Love you for supporting us.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
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SPEAKER_00: Nick, my brother.
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SPEAKER_01: Thanks, everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: Appreciate you, Eric.
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SPEAKER_01: Everyone in the audience, appreciate you.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_01: And as always, we're done being sick of this shit.
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SPEAKER_01: So now we're doing this shit.
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SPEAKER_01: Thanks, everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: Have a great week.
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SPEAKER_00: Bye, everybody.