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Football at Four: Updating Eagles and Cowboys Injury Situations and Matchups · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Eagles injury report from yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Landon Dickerson was listed on the injury report as a DNP.
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  We'll get an update on that in just a couple
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  of moments. Usually the injury report comes ab out right
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  about this time here. Also today, you just heard the
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  press conference from Nick Sirianni. He was asked about Landon
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  Dickerson's back injury and he said, yeah, I'm not going
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  to get into that when that happened or anything like that.
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  So we'll talk about that and more with Adam Kaplan.
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  He'll be joining us in just a moment here on
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  the Sports Past Live. But the injury report is out
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  for today and a DNP today for Tanner McKee. I
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  would imagine he is not available for the game. Sam
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  Howe will likely be your backup quarterback for a week.
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  Number one full participant today for Jalen Carter, Landon Dickerson,
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  Andrew mccouba, and Josh Ucha also with a groin problem.
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  So a light injury list for the Eagles today will
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  dive into all of the injury issues and more as
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  the Eagles get ready to take on the Cowboys. The
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  other thing that Sirianni was asking, and he asked about
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  You're got to leave it up to you to announce
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  the starters. He said, yeah, I'll announce it on Thursday.
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  Vic Fangio did give us a little insight to what
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  the starters might look like, even though he did not
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  come out and say it. He was asked about quinnyon
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  Mitchell excuse me. He was asked about the linebacker position
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  number one, and he said, last year, John McMullen asked
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  the question, last year, you had Zach Bond and Nikobe
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  Dean pretty much taking all the reps.
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  Speaker 1: Are you open to more of a.
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  Speaker 2: Rotation at that position opposite of Zach?
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  Speaker 1: Here's what vic Fangio said that linebacker, sort of the
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  same question.
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  Speaker 2: Last year he had Zach and the Kobe pretty much
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  taken all the reps. Are you open to more of
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  a rotation at that position opposite that?
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  Speaker 1: Not? Really? I mean hoping yes? Do I see it
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  happening immediately now?
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  Speaker 2: So he shot that down pretty quickly. The starter will
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  be Campbell and that's who's gonna play. Joh had Campbell's
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  the starter next to Zach Bond. He asked, is there
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  gonna be a rotation?
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  Speaker 1: Not? Really?
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  Speaker 2: Do I see it happening immediately. No, John had Campbell
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  was your starter there. The other thing he was asked
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  about was Quinnon Mitchell, the idea of him starting to travel.
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  Speaker 1: Where are you in that process? Here's Vic Fangio.
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  Speaker 2: Training camp about him starting to travel?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you in that process?
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  Speaker 2: Of the good players that he's going to that, Yeah,
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  it's something that we'll look at each and every week,
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  depending upon the matchups. With this team that we're playing
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  this week, they got two great receivers, so, but it
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  is something that's viable for us. So he talked about
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  Quinnon mentioned traveling, and he said this, they have two
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  great receivers and that's kind of where we start today
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  with Adam Kaplan for football at four here on the
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  Sports Bast Live on ninety seven three ESPN. That's what
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  Vic Fangio said. It's something that we'll look at each
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  and every week. He said, but this week we're playing
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  against a team that has two great receivers, so don't
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  expect to see the traveling there with Quinnon Mitchell. But
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  is that something that we will see throughout the season.
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  That is something we'll discuss throughout the show, throughout the
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  week and of course the season here.
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  Speaker 1: But the season is here.
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  Speaker 2: And Adam Kaplan and the Football at four guys are
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  back for another season of Eagles football here on the
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  Sports Past Live. We're gonna dive into some injuries and
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  some key matchups in this game. But first let's take
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  a look at the injuries. And as we talked about
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  Adam right before you jumped on, the injury report just
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  popped out Landon Dickerson a full participant today only Tanner
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  McKee a DNP. Looks like a healthy Eagles team pretty
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  much going into Thursday night.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike gets continuing our tradition, Mike, as we've done
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  I don't know four or five years, like we would
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  get the Friday injury report literally right when we would
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  start the segment. Well, we'll do that here Tuesday, because Mike,
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  today is like a Friday practice in Eagleville. So because
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  they play two nights from now, and obviously for Friday
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  game and for Sunday, the injury report, the last one
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  comes out on Friday. But what they're doing here, Mike
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  is just to explain how this works. Both teams practice Sunday,
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  Monday Tuesday and then have to walk through Wednesday. But
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  the league and I don't know why they do this.
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  They only require them to turn into Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
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  so we don't know what they did on Sunday. But
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  the bottom line is McKeith got a broken right thumb.
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  I don't look like he'll be available to even back up,
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  so they've got Sam Howe. This is big though, Mike.
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  Let me explain that Landon Dickersons some people were confused.
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  So basically, it doesn't mean that the knee issue went away.
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  Remember he had the meniscus trim. It just means that
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  he's not missing any practice time because of it. He
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  did and this was added yesterday he had a back
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  issue come up and he didn't work yesterday. He took
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  all his normal reps Mike today, what this means is,
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  barring something unforeseen, the dreaded unforeseen setback, Mike, he'll be
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  in the line of Thursday night. Now if tomorrow's walkthrough,
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  if he's not doing anything that would concern me. Mike
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  cover this business in twenty five to twenty six years
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  when guys don't participate in the walk through, that concerns me.
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  But right now Dickerson should be in the lineup right.
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  Speaker 2: So h McKee a DNP and it looks like Sam
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  Howe would be the backup there.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously.
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  Speaker 2: If Jalen Carter full participant, Landed Dickerson full participant, Andrew mccooba,
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  he would be the other guy that you know. I
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  guess there was some questions on whether he goes Thursday
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  night hamstring issue, but at full participant today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good sign that he'll be available Mike.
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  Now the question would be if he's available, and right
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  now looks like he will be, what's gonna what's what's
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  the role look like Sidney Brown because mccoomba suffered two injuries,
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  looks like he should be starting, but mccouba is just
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  the better football players, a much better fit for the scheme.
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  To me, Sidney Brown will be in borrowed time if
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  mccoopa could just not get hurt again, and that's been
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  the problem with him, he's had two different injuries. Now
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  Joshua will be available, he's got the royal injury. Mike,
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  he right now probably be their third edge. That's we'll
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  see what Vic Fanger wants up doing. But that's the
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  way they end in camp.
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  Speaker 1: We know.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes what you see is not always what you get.
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  But josh Ucha, who's trying to rebuild his career, did
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  a nice job.
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  Speaker 1: Mike.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't talk about him a lot. Is the only
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  issue there is because he doesn't have the length that
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  Azizo Julari has. Can he regain? Ocha has not been
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  a factor since twenty two Mike, that's how long it's
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  been since he's really dining of.
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  Speaker 2: Note, All right, Adam Kaplin's with us here. That's the
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  Eagles side of things. Pretty healthy. It looks like here
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  we'll get into some of the things that Vic Fangio
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  said and Nick's Arianni today in a minute, and some
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  of the matchups in here. But on the cowboy side
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  of thing, Travon Diggs, Tyler Geiton, of course, two starters
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  for them, but they are pretty healthy as well. He
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  looked like two teams healthy enough ready to play Thursday night. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Miles Sanders, Yes, that Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders had
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  an injury. He was nursing. He's not on the injury report.
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  He'll be available. He'll play what we expect to be
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  a running back. By Committy of the dreaded RBBC Trayvon,
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  this is interesting with Trayvon Dicks. They did not think
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  to start training camp he would be available until week
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  four five. Well, guess what they may have to hold
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  him back if he's not in the lineup. So right now,
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  when you're taking you're the starter. When you're taking majority
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  of the first team reps, you're almost certain to play.
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  So right now, and Dick said, Diggs didn't get put
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  up the total thumbs up. He didn't say one hundred
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  percent that he'd play, but he felt confident he'd be
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  able to contribute. So now this is another one, Tyler Geyden.
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  If you remember Mike, they thought he tore al. The
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  testing showed that actually had a fracture, a sort of
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  an odd injury in his knee, but it healed, and
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  Mike he's going to be starting. Now. When you look
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  at Tyler Geiden, there's a question whether he should really
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  be a left tackle. To me, he did not have
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  a good rookie season. That's that's what we were told.
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  If something were to happen, Let's say something happened in
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  pregame warm up, so they thought he didn't practice well.
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  This week, he decided not to start him. It would
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  be Nate Thomas who was a seventh round pick last year, Mike,
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  they don't have very good depth. The Cowboys do not
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  on their offensive line. He by the way out of
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  Louisiana Lafayette. He's a left tackle of Nate Thomas de
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  number seventy one. So, folks, if you if they want
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  up starting seventy one, Nate Thomas advantage Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Big time there. So there's a lot of advantage Eagles
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  along this. Let's look at some of those areas and
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  those matchups at him. Obviously, I want to start with
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  AREASO where Dallas might have some spots and get your
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  take on it. Uh Vic Diangels said today, Look, you know,
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  Quinn and Mitchell might move around, but these this team
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  has two good wide receivers. So how do we feel
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  about the wide receivers. You know Pickens if he's matched
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  up with the Saya Dori Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Pickens is incredible track in the football. He
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  he's really good at it. Good football player's on a
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  contract year. Dallas probably would not address until after the season,
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  at least that's their plan. You mentioned see Lamb who
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  is incredible and the slot he does play out and inside.
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  Jalen Tolbert and Cavante Terpert Turpin and Eagles know he's
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  had some good moments against the Eagles, so they've got
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  good enough depth they could go four deep. And that's
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  now we're going to assume that he can't really go
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  to a game with just five receivers. They've got four
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  receivers on the roster on the practice squad, so they're
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  almost certainly had a fifth for the game. But Pickens traveling,
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  having quent Don Mitchell traveled with him, that would make
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  because Ceedee Lamb no offense to him Pickens, this is
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  more explosive Seede Lamb's phenomenal running after the catch, and
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  boy is he beats zone defenses. Man, he sits on zones.
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  Egles are a zone team. They play. They're a bottom
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  five man coverage team. Mike, you should know that. So
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  I mean, could quin On travel a little bit, sure,
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  but today it would be Pickens. I don't know why
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  you would have to. I would not want but Dory
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  Jackson on George Pickens at all, not even a snap
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  if I could help it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and these are areas where you know, if Dallas
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  is going to hang in this, it probably feels like
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  a shootout style where they target a Dori Jackson, and
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  then I would imagine whoever's playing safety. Jake Ferguson's a weapon.
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  You can hit that scene maybe and try to take
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  the truck, especially Adam Is Cidney Brown's out there. He's
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  been known to get up some big plays. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: So the way they're going to do it, they'll play
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  plenty of twelve personnel, which is two receivers and two
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  tight ends, and then they'll they'll also have the free
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  receiver the eleven person packagees Jalen Tolbert. We're turping with
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  Pickens and Lamb Non Luke screwmaker when they go to
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  twelve person will be their whye tight end. He's their
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  in line tight end who is severely overdrafted come out
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  of Michigan. He should have gone like a fourth front pick.
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  As you mentioned, Ferguson is their their playmaker at tight end.
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  Now running back Mike it's going to be Gavante Williams
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  is their starter. But remember starting it only means who's
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  out there for the first play. They love Jayden Blue,
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  who is a rookie fifth round of Texas who's super explosive,
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  and of course Miles Sanders so it'll be a committee, Mike.
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  They were a terrible running team last season. I see
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  a well shoot out. You gotta be careful. It's Week one.
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  Odd things happen, But the only way Dallas stays in
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  it is if they throw the football. And with Sidney Brown,
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  who's just doesn't have the versatility of Drew mccoba, and
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  with the problem the Eagles have at left corner, I
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  mean Brad Shottamer by the way, I'll give you a
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  little nugget here, he's super analytical. He came up with
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  let Russ Cook in twenty twenty. That season, Russell Wilson
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  had twenty eight passing teschidowns and just state games. He
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  was headed for an NFL record, Mike, but until Pete
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  Carl stepped in. We'll talk about that another time. But
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  Shotty comes out throwing the football early and he runs late.
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  That's what he wants to do. That's what he did
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  in twenty twenty. So, Mike, on your point, I didn't
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  know you're going to go there, but I'm gonna just
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  tell you right now, they're going to attack legal secondary.
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  That's going to happen very early.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine like that's The one area what
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  I'm saying I think Dallas might think that they have
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  a shot is if they can go after the safety
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  spot and also that second corner spot. The one thing
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  I also interested in to get your take. You know,
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  Geiton Smith, BB Booker Steel their offensive line, they had
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  some issues on that offensive line. Did they do enough
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  to kind of neutralize you know, the Eagles here you
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  got two, you had Hunt, you got Smith, two guys
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  were looking to see if they emerge. And then obviously
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  the interior.
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  Speaker 1: There's a handful.
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  Speaker 2: So that Dallas offensive line should be interesting to see
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  if they've improved enough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Tylers, this is an unbelievable story. A left guard.
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  He's going to get an extension at some point relatively
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  soon that he's next in line. As we know, it
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  didn't happen for Michael Parsons. That's another story for another time.
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  You and I talked about it last week and think
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  so Tyler Booker will be the right guard. He's a
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  power offensive lineman. Not everyone, not every offensive line coach
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  I talked to this year liked him for the draft,
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  but in terms of being a first round pick. Cooper
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  Beebe's back at second years is starting it started at
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  center Karen Steele. You know he had an a cl
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  injury a couple of years ago. He's fine at right tackle.
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  Guidan is not very good at left tackle. That to
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  me is where I know Vic Fangro doesn't like the blitz.
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  That's where you overload. I don't think. I don't think. Honestly,
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  I don't think Tyler Guiden's gonna be able to handle
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  legals Patrush. I really don't, and it should be he
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  should see Jalx Hunt, to be honest with you, he should.
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  He should see Jalax Hunt. That's the side of Jallex Hunt,
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  so he's I think he's the right edge thresher. If
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  that's the case, Mike, this is a good game for
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  jan defense to do pretty well. And also when they
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  rotate with USA and Ojelari's got long arms, who I know,
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  you'd have a great train of camp and Oko Obo conqueror.
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  I'm interested to see what Vic does with this rotation
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  because they have players, Mike, how good they are remains
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  to be seen. And of course Nolan Smith, who really
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  good three quarters of the season, but it's coming off
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  a pretty big injury.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: There are some key matchups for the Eagles defense. What
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  about the Dallas defense who lost Michael parksons, what's left over?
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  Speaker 1: And where can the Eagles attack?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? This is where the Eagles and I know offenses
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  historically have done way worse than defenses early on and now.
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  Although tackling is bill pulling in the whole, few jer
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  manager would tell me tackling it's usually joly poor now,
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  but offenses sometimes just get off to a bad start.
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  It's all situation. Depends on the team and how many
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  player changes they've had. So Eagles offense versus the Dallas defense,
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  So what are you gonna get? Kenny Clark and OsO
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  Diggi Zua the de tackles the case. Think it was
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  a really good he MAROONSI Moro Jobo really explosive upfield.
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  Not he's not known for his past rush excuse me
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  his run stopping? Why do they make this trade for
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  Kenny Clark? Mazzie Smith, the first round pick two years ago,
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  has been and he's struggling to to be nice about it.
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  Out of Michigan twenty twenty three first round pick. I
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  know a lot of people in scott and loved him.
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  He had done anything. So how they're going to get
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  to how they're going to get to Hurts with that
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  offensive line. When you look at Matti Everflu, he's a
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  big time zone guy, picks and chooses his spots to blitz.
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  You're gonna see Marshawn Neeland. It was the second rounder
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  of last year who they like, who had a knee injury,
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  but he's fine. The Dante Fowler, the veteran antressor, good
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  football player, Sam Williams who's been somewhat of a disappointment,
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  and Donovan Ezaraka, who we absolutely loved it inside the Birds.
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  So they've got guys. But here's the thing, Mike, there's
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  no one you're worried about that. That's not the Degalles
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  would ever double team anybody. But you're not worried about it.
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  If you're jff Stalin, you're aware of the four. That's it.
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  You know who's out there, but you don't worry about it.
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  I see the Eagles being very successful. We talked about
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  Trayvon Diggs. He's gonna play a kay Or Elam who
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  was acquired in a trade, who was in a who's
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  really a man cover corner. I don't know how that's
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  gonna work for him. Greg co Selt told me that
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  he didn't see the fit because he was not a
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  fit for Sean mcdermot's zone scheme. They play a lot
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  of zone here. It may not even work. They just
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  don't have the depth of corner at all, Mike right now.
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  In fact, I know the Blant's a terrific nickel, but
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  I know the Eagles are most likely to be heavy
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  twelve personnel this season. I'm changing it up with Kevin Patulo.
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  You gotta come out and throw against the secondary. I know,
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  I know, when you decide you want to throw, you
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  gotta go eleven personnel because they can't handle it. There's Mike,
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  I just not that big. This would be a pass
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  beest the way Dallas is gonna win or stay in it.
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  They've gotta throw. We know Barklay well, they're gonna They're
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  gonna run plenty and then they should have success. I
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  know Kenny Clark's theyre a good player, an aging player,
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  but a good player. They're not very good at linebacker, Mike.
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  This is where the Eagles money is gonna be made.
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  If Hurts is on and Barkley's normal, they're gonna score
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  thirty points or more in this game. If the passing
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  games off and somehow and I don't know how this
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  could happen, but if somehow they slow down Barkley and
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  hurts us off in this game, I don't see that happening,
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  But if it is, then this game is going to
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  be closed.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you know he brought Kenny Clark in.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of debate whether he's still the same player,
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  you know, as he dropped off a little bit, you know,
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  as from where he was in Green Bay. But you
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  know they're okay at tackle if he can play, I mean,
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  if they if he can play, still, their tackles are decent.
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  But man, you're right, they're linebackers. You got Jack Sandborn
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  in there, Kenneth Murray Clark. You know, the safety spot
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  is kind of okay, nothing special. I think you're right
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  about the where there's a lot of holes in that
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  doubt and Parsons. You know, you lost a lot of
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  pass rush without him now as well.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see. Well, we just talked football, we talked
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  about a game. We're ready to go. Yes, it is cool.
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  Speaker 2: And when Adam's back on Friday, we'll be looking back
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  at a football game from Thursday night You can listen
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  to the game right here on ninety seven three ESPN,
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  and of course, Inside the Birds has all of of
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  your Eagles cowboys covered. Check out the Inside the Birds
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  podcasts and all of their content over at Inside the
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  Birds dot com. All right, Adam Friday, me and you
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  recapping Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Looking forward to Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Buddy, all right, there is Adam Kaplan from the Inside
• 18:31
  the Birds podcast and Inside the Birds dot Com here.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: On the Sports Bats Live. There you go. Oh man,
• 18:38
  I felt good.